Tuesday, September 11, 2012

Billie Dunn's Account of What Happened Part 5

We are letting the words of Billie Dunn, mother of missing 13 year old, Hailey Dunn, guide us in letting us know what happened to Hailey.

January 12th, 2011 on The Nancy Grace Show we have, in my opinion based upon analysis, the single most frightening statement made by Billie Jean Dunn, the mother of missing 13 year old, Hailey Dunn. 

Hailey was promiscuous?  Now the subject of sex is introduced as the police affidavit is released and it is learned that Adkins said 13 year old Hailey Dunn was promiscuous.

 It has been two days since Billie Dunn was on and questioned about the inconsistencies and about possible drug use.  Her answer:

pain medicine for a toothache.

Drug counselors have heard this one ad naseum.  Previously, she had mentioned Ambien and now she brought up narcotics (pain) and anti anxiety (tranquilizers) medications.  We asked, "What about alcohol?"  Here we learn more as Nancy Grace producers learned that Billie Dunn had a New Year's Eve party and the questioning of Billie Dunn became tense.

Clint Dunn had seen all the empties outside and was upset.  When he first went over after learning that Hailey was missing he said, "Billie wouldn't get off her couch.  She was watching her favorite TV show."
He said that David was just playing video games as if nothing was wrong and Shawn was just hanging out.  No one was up and ready to go searching, so he, his girlfriend and baby, went out by themselves to search for Hailey.

Clint was angry about the New Year's Eve party.

Behavioral Analysis, Statement Analysis and the Polygraph Results all agreed in this case about Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins.  For those waiting for Billie Dunn to turn against Shawn Adkins, while now claiming to be broken up:

don't bet on it.

Why not?

My answer is this:  Follow the pronouns.

In this series, we are letting the mother of missing 13 year old, Hailey Dunn, guide us, in her own words, as to what happened to Hailey.

In her first appearance, she indicated:

1.  Hailey was dead
2.  Mother needed an alibi

In subsequent appearances, Dunn told us:

1.  She and Adkins were unified in what happened
2.  They failed polygraphs
3.  Dunn used several types of drugs
4.  Their story changed
5.  Adkins need of alibi to be supplied by Dunn.

Dunn was deceptive about the polygraph only saying that Adkins was scheduled "tomorrow morning" leaving out all the information about how he had walked out of others, and how they took drugs in an attempt to deceive the polygraph machine.

The more she spoke, the more suspicious Nancy Grace became.

On her 3rd appearance, Billie Dunn learned that Nancy Grace had information on the case, which caught her by surprise, yet she continued to qualify her sentences, only to get called on by Nancy Grace.
Nancy Grace walked the difficult line between keeping the story going, and outright accusing Dunn of lying.

Here, the wheels fall off for Billie Dunn.

Why would she keep coming back on the show?  Isn't this a sign that she has nothing to hide?

On the contrary.  A deceptive person has a strong need to control information and seek to portray herself as honest.  This is why people like Scott Peterson sought out media:  he could not bear being viewed negatively and enjoyed the spotlight while trying to rehabilitate his reputation.

But don't they make it worse?

Indeed, but they cannot help themselves:  they keep talking in an attempt to repair the damage but they only make it worse and worse.

Their ego pushes them into this folly.  Let the mother's own words guide you.

Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Texas. A 13-year-old cheerleader, broad daylight, leaves home around lunchtime, heads by foot down the street to a little friend`s house for a sleepover. She`s never seen again. Bloodhounds scan the neighborhood and the local motel. Police comb that motel surveillance video. No sign of Hailey.

Police seize cell phones belonging to Mommy and her live-in boyfriend. They polygraph friends, neighbors. And just hours after we go live with the story, Colorado police, who originally dismiss Hailey`s disappearance as a runaway, upgrade the case to missing person, cops searching an abandoned cotton gin, combing creek bottoms and the Colorado River. Searchers zero in on the home of Mommy`s boyfriend.

As police take DNA samples from Hailey`s parents, bombshell tonight. Did Mommy and the boyfriend actually throw a New Year`s Eve party? That`s just 72 hours after Hailey goes missing. We learn turmoil in the home before with the boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, with him threatening to kill the mom and Hailey. And oddly, during his police interviews, after cops ask to see his cell phone, he starts deleting numbers. Why?

Then he says he`s sure Hailey can be found a few counties over. In those same interviews, Adkins starts out saying, quote, what a "good girl" Hailey is. But then he does a 180, claiming the little girl -- she`s 13, people -- claiming she`s promiscuous. And did the boyfriend lie about his job and his whereabouts that day?

Tonight, we learn multiple polygraphs gone wrong, including Mommy showing up high, both her and boyfriend refusing to take polygraphs, even walking out. In the weeks before Hailey`s disappearance, did Hailey`s own mother stockpile research on serial murders, family murders, motive for murders and sexual sadism? She is with us tonight to answer these questions live. Where is 13-year-old cheerleader Hailey Dunn?
GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. Did Mommy and the live-in boyfriend actually throw a New Year`s Eve party just 72 hours after they report Hailey missing? We learn turmoil in that home before, with Shawn Adkins, the boyfriend, threatening to kill the mom and Hailey. And in the weeks before Hailey`s disappearance, did Hailey`s mother stockpile research on serial murders, family murders, motive for murders, and sexual sadism?

JEAN CASAREZ, "IN SESSION": And Nancy, let`s remember where this comes from. This is the search warrant affidavit for cell phones and also for a vehicle. And that is what gives a judge probable cause that a crime has been committed to issue a warrant. And it says in this search warrant affidavit that Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn hosted a New Year`s Eve party at their home.

And it goes on to say many things. Let`s look at the polygraph. It says that Shawn Adkins actually walked out the first time, walked out the second time. The third time, he sat down for it. And when he was asked, Do you know the whereabouts of Ashley (SIC) Dunn -- you know, Hailey Dunn, you know what he said? He said he didn`t, and deception was indicated.
It may be that Adkins did not tell Dunn where the remains were dumped.  

GRACE: You know, Jean, also in that interview and in some of his police interviews -- everybody, we`re talking about the live-in boyfriend of the mom, Billie Dunn, who with us live tonight and taking your call calls. At some point, he starts talking about what a great little girl, a good girl, as he says, the little girl is. She`s only 13. Of course she`s good.

But then he goes on within that same interview, does a 180, Jean, starts talking about, she is promiscuous, sleeps around, does drugs. You know, take a look at these pictures. This is not a drug-head. Look at this little girl. She`s an all-American little cheerleader. She didn`t even have a boyfriend.

GRACE: And he compares Hailey`s possible death to, OK, cutting a deer up. (INAUDIBLE) wrong -- OK, got it.

I want to go to Billie Dunn. Billie Dunn is Hailey`s mother, and it speaks to her credibility that she is here taking our calls and taking my questions tonight. First thing I want to clear up, Ms. Dunn, I have in these documents that I`ve with me and I`ve read them very carefully, that you did, in fact, have a New Year`s Eve party at your home. That would have been within 72 hours of reporting Hailey missing.

To Billie Dunn:  Did you have a New Year's Eve party?  Do we need to define what "New Year's Eve party means?"  This became apparent as Nancy Grace questioned her.  Follow the pronouns: 

BILLIE DUNN: Well, we did not. I know it wasn`t on my mind at all that it was even New Year`s Eve. I had an uncle and aunt, and they brought their grandbaby from out of town. They came up. They stayed at my house Friday during the day. They spent the night at my brother`s. They were back over here Saturday. I think they went home on Sunday. We had family over here. I`ve had a lot of fat of family here. But that weekend, an aunt, an uncle and their grandbaby and my two brothers came over.

Note that she began with "well", which is a pause, making the question, "Did you have a New Year's Eve party" sensitive to her.  
Note next she begins with "we"

Note next that she says "we did not" but did not complete what they did not.  

A truthful person will tell us what happened, what the person thought and not what did not happen or what was not thought:  
Note next she reports what was not on her mind. 
Dunn only owns that some family came over to her home.  Grace takes her through a series of baby steps to learn if she had a party or not.  Her denial is, "no we didn't" but Nancy Grace now probes to see if it is reliable or not: 

GRACE: And when they were there that night...

BILLIE DUNN: There was definitely no...

GRACE: ... New Year`s Eve night. What were you guys doing in the home that night?

BILLIE DUNN: We were visiting. We were talking about Hailey. We were pretty upset.
 She starts with "we" and not with "I"; 
Note the order:
1.  We were visiting
2.  We were talking about Hailey
3.  We were "pretty" upset
Please note that "visiting" came first in her order.  This was not lost on Nancy Grace.  She also said that "we were pretty upset" which expresses the emotions of others ,instead of "i was upset".  Please note that she did not say she was upset, but only that they were "pretty" upset, qualifying being upset. 
72 hours after her daughter is reported missing they visited, talked and were only "pretty" upset.  Most people would be more than just "pretty" upset. 

GRACE: Did you have out food for them? Was anybody having drinks?
Since she began with "we were visiting" as her priority, Nancy Grace seeks to define what a New Year's Eve party looked like.  She asked a compound question which should be avoided, as it allows the subject to pick and choose which to answer. 

BILLIE DUNN: I know that there was a lot of food out, and I think Shawn had some drinks. Nobody else. Nobody was worried about having a New Year`s Eve party.
Here is how she lies:  She "knows" there was "a lot of food out".  Didn't she serve it?  Did someone bring it in for her?  Wasn't she there?  If she was there, she would know that food was there.  This is a type of avoidance due to the high sensitivity. 
Next, she "thinks" Shawn had "some drinks" but will not commit to it. She saw the food, and "knows" it was a "lot" for her uncle, aunt and their baby, her and Shawn.  
"nobody else" is a broken sentence.  She did not say that "nobody else was drinking."  Clint reported a large volume of empties.  It gets worse for her:
"Nobody was worried about having a New Year's Eve party."  She was not asked if people or even "nobody" was worried about the party.  
Nancy Grace smelled the lie: 

GRACE: Did you have the TV on?


GRACE: Were you watching the ball drop?

A yes or no question

BILLIE DUNN: We were just watching news.
The question is avoided. 

GRACE: Are you sure?
This is actually insulting, rather than just a straight question.  She was giving Billie Dunn an opportunity to look a bit less foolish and just come clean.  


GRACE: So you`re telling me that you have people over, you had food out, alcohol was being served, but it was not a party.

BILLIE DUNN: There was no party, and we weren`t serving alcohol. I think Shawn had a beer.

GRACE: So it was just him.

BILLIE DUNN: Nobody was trying to have a party. that was -- right. That was on nobody`s mind.

This is how she lies and the pattern is repeated enough to follow. 
"we weren't serving alcohol" denies the act of "serving" and not that they were drinking. 
Note the change about Shawn having some drinks to "a" beer.  It is difficult to keep track of lies because they do not originate from memory. 

GRACE: OK. I think I have Billie Dunn back. Billie, can you hear me?


GRACE: OK, Billie, I want very much to believe you, and I was very impressed that you volunteered to take that polygraph. Nobody made you do it. And they couldn`t make you do it. But you did it all on your own.


GRACE: You made the boyfriend leave. You haven`t been talking to him. But many people believe that you appear nervous, and it`s been interpreted that you are concerned the boyfriend had something to do with Hailey`s disappearance. Is that true?

BILLIE DUNN: That bothers me a lot.

She avoided the question but Grace will not let it go.  Avoidance of the question = sensitivity. 

GRACE: Is that a yes?

BILLIE DUNN: I don`t know what to believe at this point -- yes.

GRACE: Well, I don`t know what to believe, either, because I`m getting all these different stories about you having a New Year`s Eve party, and you`re high when you go take the polygraph. Let me ask you this. Let`s get back to the facts. When was the last time you absolutely are positive you saw Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

Dunn did not address the accusations of telling different stories, having a party, and being high for the polygraph. 

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

Please note that when this statement is viewed in light of all the other statements made to this point, the analyst is confronted with something possibly horrific.  

What is Billie Dunn describing?  Use the standard principles of analysis including body posture, reporting what did not happen, was not thought, and the standard sensitivity principle.

Here we have the critical "cluster of blues" that can solve a case.  Here Billie Dunn is inviting in to see what she saw, with her own eyes:   

BILLIE DUNN:   "I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV. 

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked like she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and..."

We give "so, since, to, therefore, because" the color coding blue as the highest level of sensitivity that can be found in a statement of someone reported what happened.  It is here that the person has a need to tell us "why" something was done.  This is often the solving of a case.  A single "blue" is a strong sensitivity indicator but two or more "blues" is called a "cluster of blues" in which the information contained with the cluster is the most critical information of a case.  Just as we highlight "left" in blue, we highlight "because" in any form that seeks to explain why something was done.  

If a question is "what did you do?" and it is answered with an explanation "why", it is critical.  

Here we have three blues in one short statement and come to the most important part of everything she had told us.

We are at the most critical point of what happened to Hailey, as described by her mother.   

Note that she doesn't tell us that Hailey was laying in bed, but rather says it looked like she was laying in bed.   This is how she appeared to her mother.   
Next Billie states what she didn't do, touch her.  That which is reported in the negative is important.  Billie didn't touch what looked like it was sleeping in the bed.  Ask yourself in what circumstance you would touch something to make sure what it was.  Would you touch your child to make sure it was him or her in bed?

Hailey is dead and Billie Dunn cannot bring herself to enter the room and touch her.  She cannot do it.  

She is taking you, the listener, in with her, back to the next morning that, whatever happened the night before, Hailey did not wake up and now is there, as if she was "like" laying in bed but she was not asleep.  
Now note that Billie "peeked in" to make sure she was in bed to ease her mind.  I believe this is true. 

 Why did Billie need to ease her mind?  

Something had happened to Hailey that Billie needed comfort and something to ease her mind.  

There had been drugs the night before, we know that.  She even stopped off, like a dutiful daughter, to ask her own mother if she needed drugs and then used the ATM to empty her account to buy drugs.  This is something Nancy Grace would soon learn, too. 

Hailey did not go to her bed, peacefully, the night before.  If that was the case, there would be no reason to "ease" her mother's mind.  There is nothing to soothe or calm, just a sleeping teenager.   

 What about Hailey being in bed caused Billie's mind to need to be put at ease? 

 This is what it means to let Billie Dunn guide you. 

She said that she needed her mind to be put at ease, even though she claimed to last see Hailey, in her own home, at 10PM the night before, watching TV.   No problem reported. 

In order to have your mind eased, your mind must be at unease. 

Something must happen to put your mind at unease. 

Hailey was watching TV at 10PM the night before. 

Between 10PM that night, and 6AM the following morning, something upset the mind of Billie Dunn, in which she needed to have her mind eased.

  Her choice of words are odd if you think nothing happened, but are perfectly fitting if you believe she and Shawn did something to Hailey.

My assertion is this:

Billie Dunn, on January 5, 2011, told Nancy Grace and the audience, that Hailey was dead, via the references she made to Hailey in the past tense. Billie Dunn's behavior confirms this (lack of urgency, lack of searching,  New Year's Eve partying).

Billie Dunn told Nancy Grace and her audience that what happened to Hailey "happened while I was at work" setting up an alibi for herself.  

Billie Dunn attempted to hide drugs and failed polygraphs, but was tripped up and revealed that she was on drugs and had a need to beat a polygraph, through drugs, but failed.  

Now, Billie Dunn herself, as seen through her own language

GRACE: And so no one for sure saw Hailey from, like -- that was 6:00 AM in the morning when you left...

Nancy Grace the prosecutor, is locking the mother into her statement and asks if it is so, that no one, with certainty, saw Hailey after 6 AM that morning of which Billie Dunn agreed. 


Nancy Grace sets it in concrete, knowing that a liar will change her statement often and will need to be locked in, so she asks again:                              .

GRACE: ... until the boyfriend gets home and he says she`s there at 3:0 o`clock and then she leaves at 3:15. So if you were not correct at 6:00 AM, for all I know, she`s been gone since 5:00 AM in the morning.


GRACE: Back to Jean Casarez, legal correspondent, "In Session." What can you tell me about this drama surrounding the polygraph? I`ve been told that Ms. Dunn, Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mother, and the boyfriend showed up high. I`ve been told that they walked out. What exactly are police saying about the polygraphs?

CASAREZ: Well, let`s look at the search warrant affidavit once again. In regard to Shawn Adkins, it says that three different times, he went for a polygraph. The first two times, he walked out. The third time, he stayed. And there are different sections. During the first section in regard to, Do you know the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn, it showed deception was indicated in his answer. And then in the second tier of that polygraph, he says she could probably be found in Scurry County.

GRACE: OK. To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. She has been with this guy now three years, dated him two-and-a-half years before he moved into the home. Did you know that your live-in walked out of two polygraphs?

Question:  Did you know he walked out of two polygraphs?

BILLIE DUNN: They told me he couldn`t take the first one because he had taken the anxiety medication also

This is Dunn's habit:  she avoided the question by giving different information.  It was a yes or no question, but instead she deflects it meaning the question, "did you know?" is sensitive to her and she does not want to answer it.  Nancy Grace still goes after her.

GRACE: OK. What about the second one?

BILLIE DUNN: And the same thing with the one they set up -- the same thing. We didn`t know it was set up for Monday. It was set up for Wednesday. I made sure he didn`t get near any of that.

She made sure:  she is in charge.  He didn't get "near any of that" is not to say "he didn't use."

GRACE: OK. What is this business that he`s telling police that she can be found in Scurry County, Texas?

BILLIE DUNN: I don`t know.

GRACE: Well, what significance is Scurry County?

BILLIE DUNN: Somebody knows where my daughter is -- she has a lot of family and friends over there. That`s the only thing I can think of. I don`t have any explanation. I don`t want to defend him.

She did not "want" to defend him.  We often do things we do not want to do.  She defended him then, and over the next year, even to the point of lying to police about his whereabouts.

Is "Somebody" Shawn Adkins? 

GRACE: We are taking your calls. Back to Billie Dunn, this is Hailey`s mother. 

You know, is it true that while your boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, has gotten a defense lawyer, you yourself have not hired a lawyer. You don`t have a lawyer? 

DUNN: No. 

GRACE: One more thing I`ve got to ask you. You have told me, and we have asked police, and they tell us they cannot confirm it, that a neighbor sees your daughter Hailey in your backyard around 12:00 noon, talking on the cell phone. That would be the Monday. The Monday she goes missing. 

But police say they have tried to verify that, and they cannot. Are you positive? And what neighbor is it? 

DUNN: He is actually living in a neighbor`s house. I think his name is Charles. The man that owns the house is Travis. But he told us that he seen Hailey in the backyard and he said he told police that also

Note that she avoids speaking for herself. This is distancing language which was later justified by fact:  it ended up being a false lead and not a sighting. The use of the first name of the owner, being irrelevant, is an attempt to persuade and sound as if she is "in the loop" as if the owner of the house's first name has meaning.  It does not.  Because it is useless information, it is doubly important to the analysis:  It shows that Dunn has a need to persuade that which is not true.  Hailey was not seen alive again, by anyone

GRACE: OK, because we have asked police and they`re telling us they cannot verify it. And if that`s true, that means that nobody absolutely can positively say they saw Hailey since the night before at 10:00 when you saw her watching TV. 

That changes the whole -- that`s a whole new ball game if we cannot spot her. Your son comes home, your 16-year-old comes home at 4:00 p.m. the next day, Monday. Hailey is not there. The boyfriend is there. 

And your son says he beats on the door, he can`t get in, takes him five minutes. He has to get in the house, nobody will let him in the door, and he sees your boyfriend and your boyfriend he says has a deer-in-the- headlights look. This is at 4:00 p.m. 

But Miss Dunn, I did not invite you on tonight just to rake you over the coals about these various inconsistencies about the New Year`s Eve party. I want to hear what you have to say tonight. 

The negative is noted as important;  she did invite her to rake her over the coals.  Why did Billie Dunn even come on the show?  Was it to help 'find' Hailey?
We do not wait long for the answer: 

DUNN: Well, I wanted to come on to clear some of that up. I don`t want to be perceived as a bad person even by people who don`t know me. But the main reason I am here, I don`t want people to get away from the fact that the whole reason we are here and we are talking to media is because my 13-year-old daughter isn`t in my house. Somebody knows where she is. 

This is what deceptive people do:  they defend themselves.  She came on to "clear some of that up"; note, not all of it, only some of it. 
The deceptive person is always worried about how she is perceived:  "I don't want to be perceived as a bad person even by people who do not know me."  It matters to her, greatly, even people that do not know her, which is why she added this in.

Is "somebody" Shawn Adkins?  

GRACE: Billie Dunn, what do you think has happened? 

DUNN: I don`t know what to think at all anymore. It`s -- to me -- my mind changes from one hour to the next. But right now it`s not feeling good to me that I am going to be able to hold my daughter again, or that I am going to be waiting for her to come in from school, too. 

GRACE: Up until now -- 

DUNN: I`m scared to death that somebody hurt her. 

GRACE: Until now, have you believed that Hailey is in some other town hiding out? But why would she hide out? And why would your boyfriend tell police -- 

DUNN: Exactly. 

GRACE: -- she`s promiscuous. That doesn`t even make sense. That`s not true. 

DUNN: It isn`t true. I don`t know why he would say that. We have never -- we have never thought that. I did talk to Hailey about birth control once or twice. She didn`t feel the need to even think about it. We talked about it

I don`t know why he would say that about my daughter. Me, or Clint, either one have ever thought she was promiscuous or having sex. 

"We" shows the inability to answer for herself.  She says what others "think", indicating deception.

GRACE: You know, look at her. This is a little girl, she is an all- American little girl, scrubbed and sunshine. 

DUNN: She`s a baby. 

GRACE: Look at her. She`s 13. And I don`t understand, I`ve got a big problem with him even saying that. But another thing has come up -- 

DUNN: Yes. 

GRACE: -- in the investigation when police searched your home they found -- that you had printed off at work, you didn`t just look at it, you printed it off and brought it home. 

DUNN: Yes. 

Here she agrees with Nancy Grace before Nancy Grace finished her sentence

GRACE: Stories about serial murders, motive for murders, family murders, sexual sadism. Why? 

DUNN: They were stories that I thought I was interested in reading. I read true crime stories. I get on crimelibrary.com. The stories weren`t laying out. They were up in a box in top of the closet because I wasn`t reading them, either because I already had or just because some of the stories weren`t interesting.

Deception indicated.  She read them, she does not read them.  These crime stories are very, very sensitive to Billie Dunn.  Here we have another cluster of blues, in the level of sensitivity.  This lends credence that it was in this true crime library that she copied the sleepover story.  Note the "either/or" deceptive technique.  Note the need to explain "why" with "because", in relation to her missing child. 

They did make me feel bad and told me it was strange that I read things like that. But I`m just interested in people that aren`t like us

GRACE: But wait a minute, weren`t -- 

DUNN: They`re not normal people. 

GRACE: Weren`t all of those stories off the truTV Web site, the old Court TV Web site? 

DUNN: Crimelibrary.com. 

GRACE: Right. OK. 

DUNN: Yes. 

Grace:  Billie Dunn, have you changed anything about her room? 

DUNN: No. A friend of my mom`s did go in and pick up some of her clothes and fold them the other day. 

And I want to go back to Billie Dunn. 

You said you left that morning around 6:00 a.m. to go to your -- to your work, right, you`re a nurse administrator, correct? 

DUNN: No, I`m the secretary up there at the hospital. I left about 6:30. 

GRACE: So 6:30 a.m. And -- 

DUNN: Yes. 

GRACE: Your live-in Shawn Adkins, what time did he leave? 

DUNN: He left at 5:30. 

GRACE: So he was already gone. 

OK, Alexis Weed, what can you tell me about the cell phone pings? 

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes. So, Nancy, Shawn Adkins, he arrives at work at 6:00 in the morning. 

GRACE: Let`s see the map. 

WEED: Then he leaves work, though, he -- his employer tells police, according to this affidavit, he leaves work at 6:10 after going to the break room, buying a soda, looks at his supervisor, takes off. Leaves the premises. 

GRACE: Whoa. Wait, wait, wait. I thought he said he was fired. 

WEED: He said he was fired. But then he said he quit according to police. 

GRACE: And what does the boss say? 

WEED: Pardon me? 

GRACE: What does his boss say? 

WEED: His boss says that no, he wasn`t fired. That in fact he is a good employee and he just left without saying a word. 

GRACE: OK, let me see the map again. So he`s at work. And give me the timeline again, please. 

WEED: OK. So he arrives at work at 6:00 in the morning. He leaves at 6:10. But that -- 

GRACE: Wait, wait. He gets to work at 6:00, he -- gets a drink out of the soda machine and then leaves? 

WEED: Yes. 

GRACE: OK. Back to the map. 

It is somewhere in this triangle of locations that the remains of Hailey Dunn were dumped.  This is why Nancy Grace followed Adkins.  

WEED: OK. So then, Nancy, he tells police according to this affidavit that he goes directly to his mother`s house located in Big Springs, Texas. But police say no, his cell phone is pinging in Colorado City where Hailey`s home is located. 

GRACE: Do you -- looking at the map, do you have to go through Colorado City to get to the mom`s residence? 

WEED: The mom`s residence and Colorado City is about 25 miles from his work place. 

GRACE: OK. Did you know that, Billie Dunn? He didn`t go straight to his mother`s. He went back to where the home is. 

yes or no question

DUNN: I found that out last night watching the news. He told me the same thing that he went straight to his mom`s house in Big Spring. 

Please note that she used reflective language:  that is, repeating the words of the interviewer indicating that the words are not her own, therefore, not reliable. 

GRACE: Now in his defense, to get from work to his mother`s, would he drive through Colorado City? 

DUNN: No, I don`t think so. He could but it would be shorter to not come through Colorado City. 

GRACE: Back to the line. Shannon in Tennessee, hi, Shannon. 

SHANNON, CALLER FROM TENNESSEE: Hi, Nancy, what a privilege it is to speak to you. 


GRACE: No, it`s my privilege. 

SHANNON: I love what you do. 

GRACE: Thank you for calling in. What`s your question, dear? 

SHANNON: Well, I had two. One is she is so dead set on saying that she kicked him out immediately, and I don`t want to attack her. But immediately after he failed the polygraph, but she failed it, too, so I don`t understand why she says he`s guilty, he did it, and she failed it, too. I don`t understand what she thinks the difference is. 

Second, if I had any clue that my child, or you, too, your two twins. If we knew our child was -- had a chance to be in Texas with family or friends, has she ever, because I have not seen her ever go to look (INAUDIBLE) and go to Texas? 

I`d go anywhere, door to door in my neighborhoods everywhere. What has she done to look for her daughter? 

GRACE: OK. Billie Dunn, what have you done to look for Hailey? 

DUNN: Got ahold of all of her friends. We pass out flyers. We get ahold of the media. We talk to the media all the time to try to keep her face out there. 

Note: "got ahold" drops the pronoun, "I" reducing commitment.  She was asked what she had done, with her name employed, making it very personal.  The expectation is the pronoun, "I" as in, "I have done..." using past tense language. 

Note the present tense language avoids answering the question of what she had done. 

Deception indicated. 

Clint Dunn said she was not searching.  The language is in agreement with Clint's assertion.   


sidewalk super said...

Hailey deserved better!!!!

BostonLady said...

Hi Peter, I have two comments. First, you have stated that Billie and Shawn did drugs the night before Billie saw Hailey, the next morning, laying in bed before she left for work. But I believe that is wrong. The night before was 12/26, Sunday, the day that Billie made the Christmas dinner. It was the Monday, 12/27, that Hailey was supposedly at Maribeth's that Billie and Shawn purchased the drugs, visited her mother (one in the same). You might want to edit that?

Next, I wanted to comment on the statement about Shawn going straight to his mother's in Big Spring. This is very revealing. Billie states here, on the show that Shawn told her the same thing. He went straight to his mother's in Big Spring. When did he add in that he went to his grandmothers, knocked on the door and then went to Big Spring? I'm going to see if I can find it. Because Billie then changed her story too. It's unbelievable how many inconsistencies there are in her "telling" of Hailey going missing. She doesn't answer the question but she mixes in enough of the language to make you think she has.

Billie is now on facebook telling people that the police tricked her into lying for Shawn when she was arrested. That it was a set up to get her into jail so they could harass her, embarrass her, to force her to lie and say she saw Shawn looking at the child porn. Wow.

Lis said...

They must have a prosecutor there that won't do a thing without a body. Or that has some other reason not to prosecute these two.

Anonymous said...

Her reading that material isn't unusual at all. If it weren't meant to be read, they wouldn't publish it. Afterall, people who follow NG do so because they depend on their "experts" who are using prime time to promote their books. She, just like these "experts" find someone poor and vunerable to hawk their wares on their demise.

Any plumber knows that crap runs downhill.

Lis said...

Anon, do you know exactly what the reading material was? How do you know if it was unusual or not? Do you feel the child porn was also not unusual?

BostonLady said...

AnonymousSeptember 11, 2012 10:41 AM

Her reading that material isn't unusual at all. If it weren't meant to be read, they wouldn't publish it. Afterall, people who follow NG do so because they depend on their "experts" who are using prime time to promote their books. She, just like these "experts" find someone poor and vunerable to hawk their wares on their demise.

Any plumber knows that crap runs downhill.


Interesting Anonymous, out of that entire article, all you care to defend is that her reading material isn't unusual? umm ok.

BostonLady said...

BILLIE DUNN: If he did hurt my daughter, I`ll -- I`m -- I would be disgusted by that and would never speak to him again. And hope he gets what he deserves, anybody that hurt my daughter.


Billie would be disgusted and would never speak to him again. And look how she stutters, I'll, I'm. Notice she switches from past to future verbs. Did = past. Would = future.

I'm sure Billie being disgusted and not speaking to Shawn again would be just in response to hurting her daughter (notice she doesn't even say Hailey).

Nic said...

I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

"but" negates that which comes before it.

Why couldn't BJD just say, "I saw her watching TV in her room."

What is it about what Hailey was watching on the TV? Does it have something to do with the XBox which was confiscated? Where was the Xbox located?

But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and..."

I thought that what was reported in the negative was sensitive, i.e., opposite to what happened. I interpreted BJD's action as going in and touching her to ease her mind, and instead discovering her cold, lifeless body.

First she sees Hailey Sunday night. Then, the next morning she has to "make sure" it was Hailey lying in bed. What transformation would take place that it wasn't Hailey laying in her bed?

IMO, I think BD discovered Hailey watching something that she wasn't suppose to watch on her TV (mama's homemade porn?) and put a bad beating on Hailey.

BJD probably never looked in on her kids before leaving for work (with everything else we discovered about BJD's parenting style IMO, it would be contrary to what we "know" about her) which is why she brought it up. I was thinking that she probably knew Hailey was hurt badly and wanted to make sure she was "okay" before leaving and discovered otherwise.

Nic said...

Something else about that morning. LE didn't release all of the cellphone pings. However, some information was released.

SA left work at 6:10 and BJD supposedly left home at 6:30AM.

Didn't SA's cellphone ping at 6:30 at the house?

BJD said that SA sometimes drove her to work, but not that day and that her ride was late so she had gone back in the house to call her ride. (It was later stated that her cellphone pinged from the house.) If her cellphone pinged before 6:30 could it have been SA calling BJD to say he was leaving work and was on his way back to Dunn?

A neighbour supposedly saw BJD in her drive-way getting into a car at 6:30.

December 27th sunrise was well after 6:30AM. Who knows what the neighbour saw. For all they know, they could have been witnessing Hailey being moved. As in, SA leaving work, calling BJD to tell her he was on his way back. Got back to the house at 6:30, they load Hailey in the back and BJD gets in. He drives her to work. She is confirmed as being there because 1) security camera's catch her entering the hospital and/or 2) tech support establishes that she has logged onto her computer.

SA spends the rest of the day secreting Hailey.

Just my speculative opinion.

Nic said...

But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and..."

The word "just" implies that there was something else that could have happened. "Just" follows the sentence, "I didn't go touch her". Not only will she not allow our imagination to "go there". I think she won't let herself go there, either. She's her mom. Why wouldn't she go in and touch her/cover her, etc.

Why does "in bed" bug me? She could have said, I peeked in on her (with the implication 'to ease my mind').

Peter, remember how you spoke about conditioning and using porn to condition children?

What if SA was sitting on Hailey's bed (or on the couch and it went out the door before LE got to it) with her watching porn and BJD walked in on them as he was fondling her? It's been established that BJD is jealous. Would she attack "attractive" (BJD's word) Hailey for fooling around with "her man"? (As opposed to knocking him clear into tomorrow for molesting her 13 y/o daughter.)

I think she might. Then in a fit of jealous rage (rage being the operative word) she went too far. How else could she get SA to clean up her mess for her, than threaten to expose him as a child molester (in addition to what was already known about him).


Anonymous said...

Peter is there any way you can get the affidavit or post a link to it like you did for Isabel Celis?

Anonymous said...

Which facebook page or whose? Im looking but I can't find it.

Anonymous said...

Peter said:

January 12th, 2011 on The Nancy Grace Show we have, in my opinion based upon analysis, the single most frightening statement made by Billie Jean Dunn, the mother of missing 13 year old, Hailey Dunn

Which statement was it?

Jen said...

Anon 7:19

Im not trying to speak for Peter but I think he's talking about the statement she makes regarding checking in on Hailey, thinking she sees her lying in bed but not touching her to make sure it's really her...this has also been the most troubling statement for me as well for many different reasons. First a actually watched this episode of Nancy Grace and I remember being put off by her constant primping while describing the last time she saw her missing daughter...I would think a heart-wrenching and emotional memory...but BJD certainly didn't seem to be re-living this painful/precious memory at all. Also, as others have pointed out in various theories, when I read her words again and look at them in black and white, I feel that she is describing looking at (and possibly touching) Hailey's body.

The wording is awkward, like Nic said...she should say, 'i saw her in her bed watching TV' or some variation...but not the broken, 'I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV', and the most chilling part to me is her description of the room being 'dark' and thinking 'it looked like she was lying in bed, but i didn't go in and touch her or anything' (reporting in the negative, makes me think she did touch her and verified that it indeed wasn't Hailey lying in bed but instead her body). Like I said before, I would think that this last moment in the presence of her child would be romanticized and precious to her (regardless of the reality), not something she would be unclear on...she was sleeping, or in her room, but watching TV?, nor would she describe it in such a flippant way.