Thursday, September 13, 2012

Nancy Grace Show's Final Coverage of Hailey Dunn


On February 25, 2011, the Nancy Grace Show covered the case of missing 13 year old Hailey Dunn. 

Previously, Hailey's mother, Billie Jean Dunn, had appeared on 10 shows in January. 

In these 10 shows, Billie Dunn was consistently caught in lies.  

Linguistically, from the beginning, Billie Dunn indicated her daughter was dead. 
Next came drugs, violence, serial killer literature, slasher videos, and more lies. 

The following is the 11th episode of "The Nancy Grace Show" that highlighted the case of missing 13 year old Hailey Dunn.   This episode aired February  25th, 2011  The producers asked Billie Dunn to appear, but she did not.  

Statement Analysis Conclusion: 

The analysis of the mother's statements alone show that Hailey died as a result of a sexual homicide, just as the grandmother, Connie Jones, told the nation last January, 2011, on The Nancy Grace Show.  The grandmother went on instinct and her own instinct was shown through the large volume of analysis done on the statements of the mother.  The police affidavits only further confirmed what Connie Jones had stated, and Statement Analysis found to be true.

The question that most people have had has been this:  Who was involved?  Was it both Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn, or just Adkins, with Dunn lying for him?

The pronouns may reveal the answer.  

This particular show from February 25, 2011  highlighted the details, including lies, drugs and blood lust.  It was the mother's own words that showed that Hailey was dead, and that her life was lived in the world of drugs, perversion and neglect. 

See statement of Pat Brown on child pornography.

Aired February 25, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET
JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: Tonight, breaking news in the search for missing west Texas cheerleader Hailey Dunn. As we go to air, shocking pornographic images seized by investigators and just made known to the public. We have confirmed police allege hundreds of thousands of photographs and even videos of child pornography and bestiality found on a family computer, a computer disk and memory stick found inside the little girl`s home.

With this news release, Billie Dunn would no longer be on the show, nor would she receive supportive statements from guests, as the pieces of the puzzle came together:
Evidence and Statement Analysis matched. 
Sexual Perversion
Drug Abuse
Violence
Deception 
Police reported early to us, and others, that both mother and boyfriend were suspects.  Later, some media reported them as "Persons of Interest" and some labeled Adkins as a "suspect"; but sometimes this is part of a strategy, including playing one against the other, and avoiding the word "suspect" in order to keep communication flowing. 

Police were frustrated by the mother's appearances and her lies about them, and how the polygraph was done, and how they were portrayed as bumbling through the case.  They did not appreciate the comments made by some of the guests who were, at the time, taking Billie Dunn as if she was being truthful. 
Nancy Grace was off this particular night:  what would the show have been like had she been on, given the frustration she expressed in getting a straight answer from her.
 
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Search warrants reportedly reveal investigators found more than 100,000 picture and video images showing pornography found on a computer taken from suspect Shawn Adkins`s mother`s home.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some of those images include child pornography.

BILLIE DUNN, HAILEY`S MOTHER: He`s telling me that he`s going to kill me. He said it`s going to happen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A memory card also reportedly found in the bedroom dresser of Hailey`s mom`s house containing hundreds of pornographic images.



CASAREZ:


CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace. We spoke with police minutes before airing this show tonight, and they are alleging to us that thousands of deviant acts have been found on a family computer in the Hailey Dunn case. We grew to know and love Hailey Dunn after Christmas this last year when she went missing. They`re also telling us that those deviant acts include child pornography and bestiality.

I want to go out to Michael Board, reporter of WOAI Newstalk radio in San Antonio. Michael, you yourself have just gotten off the phone with police. What are they telling you?

MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSTALK RADIO (via telephone): Yes, this is the Mitchell County Sheriff`s Department here in Texas. And these images that we`re talking about, these were found on a computer in Shawn Adkins`s mother`s home, and also on a memory stick, one of these little portable memory sticks, in the home where Hailey actually lived. What they found on these, like you said, a little bit over 100,000 deviant pictures, child pornography, bestiality.

You know, we knew Shawn Adkins was the only suspect in this case, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, the kidnapping, as police call it, of Hailey Dunn. We now get a better idea. Who the heck needs 108,000 pictures of such trash? It`s amazing how many pictures they found on here. But it does give us a lot better idea of why this man is being called a suspect in this case.


CASAREZ: And more or less, Michael Board, possession of child porn, that`s a crime. Let`s go...

BOARD: Two to twenty years in Texas.

CASAREZ: OK. Alexis Weed, NANCY GRACE producer, OK, let`s go through this step by step. First of all, we know at the end of January, investigators seized a computer out of Shawn Adkins`s home. Now, he`s the live-in boyfriend, was the live-in boyfriend of Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey Dunn. So what are we learning was found on that computer?

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, we know it was a Dell computer seized, as you said, from the mother of Shawn Adkins`s home. On this computer, like Michael Board said, Jean, 108,498 pictures depicting deviant acts, according to the sheriff of Mitchell County. Also, this memory stick and a CD, 320 images, videos, pornographic in nature.
CASAREZ: All right. And we want to show everybody a memory stick. This was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn. Everybody, this is a memory stick. It`s a flash drive. They call it that, too. It`s what you use in a computer to actually get images to the computer to download or to put them on your memory disk. And then, of course, a CD. We all know what that looks like. But this was also found in the home where Hailey Dunn lived. And authorities are saying they are now taking this to prosecutors to see if charges should be filed.

I want to go back to Michael Board, reporter, WOAI Newstalk radio. What else can you tell us?

BOARD: All this information is being passed on to the district attorney in this case. Of course, the police can only gather the evidence. All that evidence taken to a district attorney. It will go before a grand jury.

If the grand jury gives their thumbs up to this case, it`s likely Shawn Adkins, maybe even Billie Dunn, because the memory stick was found in her home -- she might even face charges in this case. She might not have downloaded it. They might not know who had gotten -- who was on the computer when the kiddie porn was downloaded. But because it was found in her home, it might be a fact that she might face charges in this. And in Texas, possession of child pornography, if you`re found guilty either by a jury or by a judge, it could mean a sentence of 2 to 20 years.

CASAREZ: And Billie Dunn tonight is denying to us that she knew what was on that or had any part in any computer image that was found on the computer or the memory stick.

We are taking your calls live. To Jen in Colorado. Hi, Jen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Jean. Thank you for taking my call.

CASAREZ: You`re welcome.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was wondering if they know if there are any photos of Hailey on that memory stick or CD, or if they could see any surroundings on the CDs or memory sticks?

CASAREZ: Well, you know, Jen, with 108,000-some-odd images, they`ve got a lot to go through.

I want to go to Pat Brown, criminal profiler. They are not releasing what is shown on all of those images, but Pat Brown, you can better believe they`re looking at them.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Oh, yes. We`re talking -- here`s the problem. We`re talking about a desire to have extreme excitement, like with extreme sports, instead of just going for a walk, you jump off a mountain. This is extreme perversion. Instead of just playing around with a little weird sex, you got to go to worse and worse and worse levels of perversion to get any kind of titillation out of it. And it might go as far as messing with Hailey.

Pat Brown plainly states what the grandmother, Connie Jones asserted, and what analysis has shown.

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace. Police are alleging to us tonight that thousands of images have been found on a computer in Shawn Adkins`s mother`s home in addition to that of child pornography and bestiality and a memory stick and a CD seized from the home of Hailey Dunn. Now, what does all this mean? This means that we want to know where Hailey Dunn is. And this evidence may help us find out where Hailey Dunn is, missing since December 27th, the high school cheerleader, middle school cheerleader, of Colorado City, west Texas.

I want to go out to Marc Klaas. Marc, you spent a lot of time with Billie Dunn. We know that this flash drive, CD, was found in her home, the flash drive in her dresser drawer. Law enforcement telling us they may go to the grand jury now with this. What are your thoughts? She was not named a suspect, just Shawn Adkins.

Marc Klaas, in January, said he "admired" Billie, and called her by her first name.  Police reported that he went to Texas and coached her, specifically, on how to remember to address Hailey in the media.  Police reported that it was "not helpful" and considered his presence something detrimental to the investigation.  They did not appreciate coaching a suspect on how to present herself. 

KLAAS: Well, first of all, we have to be very clear that we`re dealing now with multiple crime scenes. Not only is Hailey Dunn missing, but that computer that was taken from the mother`s house is a crime scene. That flash drive that has child pornography on it is a crime scene, as is the CD. And all of these people are involved in this.

Klaas Kids is very clear. We tell every family of a missing child, number one, to tell the truth, number two, cooperate with law enforcement, and number three, come clean about absolutely everything. That was not followed in this case, and the repercussions are grand. They`re huge because everything that`s going on now really is detracting from the one goal that everybody should be focusing on, which is finding Hailey Dunn. Billie should be ashamed of herself for holding back information that she`s had all of this time
.

With training, Klaas would have seen that she was withholding information from the very first appearance on the show when it all began with past tense references of Hailey by the mother. 



CASAREZ: To Joey Jackson, defense attorney joining us out of New York. Here`s my one question. If Billie Dunn knew about these child pornography images, why wasn`t she named a suspect back in January along with her live-in boyfriend?

JACKSON: Well, the problem, Jean, is belief that she might have known it. You know, there are a lot of instances where people live together, parents, husbands, wives, and they don`t know what each other is doing. So we can`t assume that yet.


ADKINS: We all get along just fine. I would never do nothing to that little girl.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A memory card also reportedly found in the bedroom dresser of Hailey`s mom`s house containing hundreds of pornographic images.

ADKINS: If I had any knowledge of her whereabouts I would definitely come forward.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" on the truTV Network in for Nancy Grace tonight.

Where is Hailey Dunn? We have followed this case for well more than a month now. She disappeared on December 27th. Last person to see her was her mother`s live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. Some riveting new information to come out today.

Michael Board, reporter, WOAI Newstalk Radio, what was revealed today about the investigation?

MICHAEL BOARD, REPORTER, WOAI NEWSRADIO: In addition to the revelation that more than 100,000 pictures of pornography and bestiality were found on Shawn Adkins` mother`s computer and also a flash drive found in Billie Dunn`s home, we`re also learning a little bit more about the investigation today.

We know that they have had a wide ranging investigation looking at areas all around Colorado City. I was told today by a spokesman for the police department up there in Colorado City that a total of four landfills have been searched for any sort of evidence -- any evidence whatsoever about Billie Dunn.

You know we talk a lot about what`s being done to find her. Well, this is -- this is what`s being done. A total of four landfills searched. They had dogs out in these landfills. Absolutely no evidence coming up into these -- the family from what we`ve been told, is they believe the police need to work more on finding people who might know where Hailey is. 

They`re deadest --

CASAREZ: But here is the revelation that is legally important and critically important to the life or death of Hailey Dunn. We confirmed that police are alleging tonight that it was child pornography that was found on the computer. Not just pornography, but child pornography. 108,000 pictures of child pornography.

In addition to that, a memory drive, a flash drive just like this. It was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn, the mother who has been on this show so many times. And this, authorities say, they are taking to a grand jury to see -- to prosecutors to see if a grand jury should bring charges against her.

To Alexis Weed, NANCY GRACE producer, tell us more of what has been unsealed today.

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Sure, Jean. In addition to those 108,498 pictures, the memory stick, the CD that you mention from the dresser drawer and, Jean, mind you that CD drive, that flash drive, that was found in the dresser drawer at the bottom back in the corner as we`re learning from the search warrant return.

Also, Jean, in regards to the landfill search, there was a landfill search just on Tuesday in Big Spring. That is close to the location where Adkins` mother lived and where this computer came from.

The landfill search was said to not have turned up anything significant, however, dogs were used in that search. And that comes off of the most recent landfill search that we know of, January 20th, before this, at which time there were hits related to Hailey Dunn.

CASAREZ: So this is a very active investigation.

Out to Beverly in New York. Hi, Beverly.

BEVERLY, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Hey, thanks for taking my call.

CASAREZ: You`re welcome.

BEVERLY: What I`m calling about is -- Hailey told her grandmother that she was afraid of him, if I remember right, that she thought she saw him standing at her bedroom door. I was a single mother. If I had even heard that about any of the guys that I dated at the time my daughter was young, I would have been all over them. And I think that this Billie, the mother, knows something.

CASAREZ: OK, Beverly, it`s a good point. I remember that when Billie Dunn was on, she was asked that question. And she said, I never knew. Hailey never told me that she was afraid of him.

To Leslie Austin, psychotherapist, what do you make of all this? Because this is very, very serious in many, many areas.

DR. LESLIE AUSTIN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Well, it certainly shows an obsession with -- pornography and deviant pornography of many kinds. And that the extent in the obsession and the compulsion of that is really a smoking gun that Hailey was likely in danger.

We don`t have any hard evidence that -- yet that anything happened to her but the likelihood grows greater the more we see these images. And Billie Dunn may not know things but if she doesn`t she may be just one of the most clueless, innocent people around who showed really poor judgment very consistently.

CASAREZ: To Paul Penzone, former sergeant of the Phoenix Police Department joining us tonight from Phoenix, Arizona.

Put this together for us. Because in your experience when you see so many images of child porn, that`s right, that`s one investigation in and of itself. But what does that mean for the alleged sexual molestation and even murder of Hailey Dunn?

PAUL PENZONE, DIRECT OF PREVENTION PROGRAMS, CHILDHELP.ORG, FMR. SERGEANT, PHOENIX PD: Well, those behaviors can go hand in hand and they often do. What you see is a person who -- and the question brought up earlier, what was going on around Hailey gave all the indicator that she felt that she was in danger with him.

Now we see his true personality. And I know I`m making a speculation, but forensic examiners will break down that computer. They will see what names were used, what e-mails were used, credit cards, anything at all to identify if in fact he was purchasing those.

But his personality traits was going on at that home given the extreme cause for concern as all of your viewers that he is responsible and is Hailey somewhere safe which is going to be highly unlikely at this point.

So getting enough charges -- and in Arizona every picture is an additional count. I don`t know if it`s the same in Texas. But those are concurrent, actually consecutive not concurrent charges.

CASAREZ: And that`s a good point. Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney joining us out of Miami. 108,000 images on the computer alone. That could result in 108,000 charges.

HUGO RODRIGUEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, FMR. FBI AGENT: It could. And it remained in the state. And the state prosecutor, it`s fine, but he could also be prosecuted by the federal government because that was all obtained via the Internet, and you would have those charge.

The thing is, is that it appears that this is just a progression of deviant conduct. If he is looking at little girls, which we`re going to speculate it is, I`m afraid that maybe she might have been the subject of some of his actions after that. And there`s a lot to -- it just says a whole lot about who this individual is and they should really focus even harder on him.

CASAREZ: To Barbara in New York. Hi, Barbara.

BARBARA, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Hi, Jean, always a pleasure. Well, the previous caller stated what I wanted to state regarding Shawn stalking her outside of her bedroom in her own home.

Now, Billie denied knowing anything about her daughter`s fears. However, my feelings are -- and no, I don`t like to assume. But that -- that drive was in her dresser drawer. She, I think, and her boyfriend Shawn enjoyed watching child porn.

She was supposed to protect her child. And with that in the house she wasn`t protecting her child. So I do hope if anything she`s at least charged with possession of pornography.

CASAREZ: Marc Klaas. You were in that home. You got to know her. What are your thoughts now? What were your thoughts then? She -- I really enjoyed watching her. I thought she was very honest when she was on this show talking.

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I did, too. I did, too. And I`ll tell you, one thing that I don`t believe Billie Dunn is, is I don`t believe that she`s naive and clueless at all. I think she`s a very street savvy young lady. I think that she knows exactly what`s going on around her. And I find it very, very difficult to believe, in light of these new allegations or this new -- this new information, that she was completely clueless to absolutely everything that was going on.

I`m stunned by what we found out today. And I`m also really kind of interested in exactly why the police waited until today to make this explosive revelation.

CASAREZ: Yes, yes. I agree with you. I am stunned, too.

And everybody, we want to tell you that we`ve reached out to Shawn Adkins` attorney for a comment. The other side to all of this. And there is no response, there is no comment.

To Alexis Weed, I want to go just back to the beginning. Because the last person to ever see her on December 27th was Shawn Adkins, right, in the home?

WEED: Right. He says that he last saw her around 3:15 in the afternoon when she supposedly left and said that she was going to spend a night at the friend`s house. Then Adkins picked up her mother at work and told her the same story, that she was going to stay overnight with a friend.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The former live-in boyfriend of Billie Dunn and only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn.

ADKINS: I`m just tired of staying behind closed door. And I`m (INAUDIBLE). And I want to get back out there and live my life normally again.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Thirteen-year-old cheerleader.

DUNN: I don`t know where my daughter is.

GRACE: Never seen again.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have several people of interest.

GRACE: What do we know?

DUNN: I would like to say that I don`t care what people think of me.

ADKINS: I just hope she makes it home safe and sound.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The only named suspect in this case.

DUNN: I started being told he`s just a hurdle we can`t get around.

GRACE: It`s been interpreted that you are concerned the boyfriend has something to do with Hailey`s disappearance.

DUNN: That bothers me a lot.

ADKINS: I wouldn`t do nothing to that little girl. 

DUNN: Shawn, if you have nothing to hide, I really wish you would talk to the investigators.

ADKINS: I`m clueless. This could happen to anybody, what`s happening to me. And how would they feel if they`re in my shoes.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: But nobody is in Adkins` shoes and nobody knows the truth of what happened to Hailey Dunn.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" in for Nancy Grace.

We wanted Billie Dunn on the show tonight. We asked her to come on. And at first she said yes, and then she declined. And you know how many times she`s been on the show. But she did tell us that she knows nothing about any child pornography on any computer or on memory stick or flash drive or CD. She said she knows nothing of it. 

Note that this is not a direct quote.   Note that police reported that Billie Dunn, herself, appeared on some  pornographic video.  It would have been difficult for her to face all of these facts and give answer as to the lies she told, as well as the information she withheld.  

To Howard Oliver, joining us tonight, former medical director and forensic pathologist out of Los Angeles.

You know Hailey Dunn was a very young little girl. She was 13 years old. When a child goes for their routine pediatrician appointments, does a pediatrician ever check for sexual abuse of a child?

HOWARD OLIVER, FMR. DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: No. It`s not something that`s routinely checked unless the parent brings it up.

CASAREZ: All right. And another question, you know, when Shawn Adkins originally said that Hailey Dunn went missing on December 27th, that she went out without a coat. And it`s been a cold winter in Texas. That just doesn`t ad up, right?

OLIVER: It doesn`t add up at all. She has to keep warm some way. She had to have gone somewhere or been taken somewhere.

CASAREZ: All right. To Dawn in Missouri. Hi, Dawn.

DAWN, CALLER FROM MISSOURI: Hi, Jean.

CASAREZ: Thank you for calling.

DAWN: Jean, I want to know if we`ve got child pornography involved, why hasn`t he been arrested?

CASAREZ: Good question.

Joey Jackson, defense attorney, is there some strategy here? Why hasn`t someone been arrested?

JOEY JACKSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think so. I mean, look, we have to keep our eye on the prize, and if the prize is finding and detecting and seeing where Hailey is, then maybe they should exercise some restraint until they`re absolutely sure.

The other issue is, is it`s being investigated by a grand jury. Let`s see what -- if there`s a determination then, and ultimately the police will do what`s just and what`s right and what`s appropriate.

CASAREZ: You know, to Hugo Rodriguez, if there was just 108,000 images of child porn on the computer found at Shawn Adkins` mother`s house, which police are alleging to us tonight, then I would say anybody could go to that computer. You don`t know who`s in that house, who lives there, who goes in and out.

But I`m concerned about the flash drive. This little piece right here, this little -- that was found in the dresser drawer of Billie Dunn.

RODRIGUEZ: Not only that, that means it`s portable, it`s taken. It`s brought in and brought out, it`s put into other computers and watched at other places.

What they`re doing now is doing some other analysis to see if they can peg the time and place of these -- when the images were placed on each different computer or stick or how it was generated from the Internet to see if they can put people in certain places to see if they can determine actually who it was.

Some of these things might have been purchased. They might have been exchanged with other individuals and things. He might have -- he or she might have exchanged things. So that`s what they`re doing now. They`re presenting it to the grand jury. 
Each of them knew that these things had been taken. So it`s not new to them. So I think that it is better to be patient, but I think someone soon will be arrested if not on child endangerment but on the possession of those items.

CASAREZ: And this could be a huge investigation, you are so right.

To Laura in Michigan. Hi, Laura.

LAURA, CALLER FROM MICHIGAN: Hi, Jean. I have a comment about Shawn Adkinson. It really bothered me from the very beginning when they talk to him. These three words. "That little girl." Because where have we heard that before? We`ve heard it from Casey Anthony and also from Misty Croslin.

CASAREZ: Very, very interesting. You realize, Laura in Michigan, that he took, quote-unquote, "three polygraphs." The first two he walked out, the third, deception was indicated on the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn, but saying that, Billie Dunn, two polygraphs, the first one she didn`t take because she had narcotics in her. The second one she did take. Deception was indicated on helping or knowing the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn. 

A little confusing in all of that.

To Paul Penzone, former sergeant from the Phoenix Police Department joining us tonight, what are your thoughts about this flash drive in the dresser drawer? I mean that just makes it even more serious because it`s within the home where Hailey Dunn lived.

PENZONE: I want the take it back a step with you, Jean. Do you remember early on -- on some confusing case, we covered a lot. We talked about how Billie and Shawn had a drug related issue. And she was not being forthright to talk about the time, I said if she`s not being forthright about every detail, I`m concerned. 

There`s only one victim here, OK? That`s the little girl. Everyone else, I have cause for concern. If she`s in a relationship with somebody, I`m not saying that she could have been immune to knowing what he was doing, but I think that they had common interests, so that flash drive, what went on with it and the deception from both polygraphs, tells me a lot about both these individuals.

I don`t know who is responsible but there`s a lot of deception. And the mom should come forthright with every single detail no matter how it makes her look personally. That`s been bothered considerably since the beginning of this case
.

CASAREZ: And to Paul Penzone, it also is a fact that on December 27th when she went missing after mother called the police they went to the ATM to get money for, police say, illicit drugs. 


Where there is deception, there is a need for deception. 
  

19 comments:

john said...

Peter the images alone should be enough to warrant an arrest.!!

Anonymous said...

After they reported her missing they went to the ATM for money to purchase drugs? Is that right? I was thinking I had read they had gone the night she went missing to purchase drugs. They went again? Like what is this a dailey drug shop that people frequent like a convience store and no one notices their arrival or departure? Everyone just sits around taking notes, "watching them," and waits for the big one?

Anonymous said...

"IT" "That" "She" "I" "We"...
right out of serial killer literature.Puuhleeeeeeeze!

Down the rabbit hole and for what purpose? To get someone elected to something for "peace?" That ominous ever evasive boogeyman that controls the world with his one big hand and one big eye?

Anonymous said...

It still frustrates me that there has been no arrest and no confirmation that there is or is not child porn. I know the FBI and investigators have stated ( back in 2011) that they need to confirm who loaded/purchased the porn before an arrest can be made. I say again, if there is child porn arrest everyone who had access to the devices. How is that any differant than arresting everyone in a house for illegal drug posession if drugs are found? Can someone explain that to me?
Local anonymous

Anonymous said...

Because in some cases drugs or other contraband could be left and the person who lives in the house would not know it. That's more than likely not the case here, but, it could happen.

Many upload, hack, rerout, etc. knowing that only one person will be arrested. Clearly more than one big "kingpin" dude is out there doing it.

They could make it inacessible via the Internet but why don't they? Are they still working on policy, methodology,personality profiles,etc.? Or, would they rather make everyone responsible for everyone else the world over?

Someone somewhere has a go-nowhere philosophical answer to all these questions I'm sure.

Anonymous said...

Pat Brown uses the phrase "worse and worse and worse" instead of worst.

Three times she said it (worse)...does that mean she's lying?

Anonymous said...

"But I think someone soon will be arrested if not on child endangerment but on the possession of those items."

"So that`s what they`re doing now. They`re presenting it to the grand jury."

CC LE here are some suggestions on how you can make BJD and SA talk, two drug addicts, child neglectors, pedophiles off the street and behind bars where they belong. You may only hear from BJD once a year, but if were even a citizen of CC you would hear from me every day several times a day until there was an arrest. Bc I firmly believe there's been no arrest bc some of you are somehow involved. You would arrest them and just pay the price or you would hear me on tv crying out for the safety of my child and all the children of CC. You would hear me on the radio, practicing my right to freedom of speech to protest the absolutely unnecessary injustice against this child and the children of CC. If you are a citizen and you feel as passionate about this as I do, I encourage you to not allow local LE by with this. In the quotes above you were told by professionals that you could charge them with:

1) Child endangerment
2) Child neglect
3) Child abuse (David)
4) Child Pornography

OR

You could bring ALL the evidence you have, that you publicly stated existed (Peter I beg you please analyze their statements) before a grand jury you promise was congrating. Where is the grand jury? Where is the evidence? Where are the arrests?

Justice For Hailey

Anonymous said...

I forgot murder. Ask Haleigh Cummings LE for help or the folks who prosecuted Drew Peterson. You don't have to sit there DAs and continue to do nothing.

Anonymous said...

ATTENTION ALL BJD FANS:

PENZONE: I want to take it back a step with you, Jean.

Do you remember early on -- on some confusing case, we covered a lot.

We talked about how Billie and Shawn had a drug related issue.

And she was not being forthright to talk about the time,

I said if she`s not being forthright about every detail,

I`m concerned.

There`s only one victim here, OK?

That`s the little girl."

That's Hailey Dunn! Folks.

You will never know just how foolish you look by supporting her and how she and SA must laugh at you as they roll blood money in their hands given to them through the donations of good hearted well meaning folks who cannot imagine evil on the level these two OPENLY practice, even in front of the law. If anyone believes BJD is innocent after this, well, I believe no good person could.

Anonymous said...

Thanks anon. Still frustrates the heck out of me...........

Anonymous said...

They went the night Hailey went missing, not the night after they reported her missing.

Light the Way said...

What does Statement Analysis do with 'double negatives'?
For instance:

"ADKINS: We all get along just fine. I would >>NEVER DO NOTHING<< to that little girl."

Now, grammatically "never do nothing" means just the OPPOSITE of what it is supposedly trying to convey. **Two negatives make a positive**. So "never do nothing" literally means the equivalent of "always do something".

Would SA chalk Shawn Adkins words up to ignorance of proper grammar, or would his words be taken at face value, and be considered an admission of "having done" or "would have done" something to THAT little girl?

Just wondering :)

BostonLady said...

DR. LESLIE AUSTIN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST:
We don`t have any hard evidence that -- yet that anything happened to her but the likelihood grows greater the more we see these images. And Billie Dunn may not know things but if she doesn`t she may be just one of the most clueless, innocent people around who showed really poor judgment very consistently.

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I did, too. I did, too. And I`ll tell you, one thing that I don`t believe Billie Dunn is, is I don`t believe that she`s naive and clueless at all. I think she`s a very street savvy young lady. I think that she knows exactly what`s going on around her. And I find it very, very difficult to believe, in light of these new allegations or this new -- this new information, that she was completely clueless to absolutely everything that was going on.

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We know Billie Jean is not clueless nor naive. Why hasn't there been an arrest of both Billie & Shawn???

Nic said...

We all get along just fine. I would never do nothing to that little girl.

"we" weak
"just fine" extra wording used to persuade
"just" implies there is an alternative to getting along

"would" conditional
"never" doesn't mean no/didn't
"nothing" double negative = positive
"that" distancing

Conclusion: there was tension in amongst the "we".

SA is being deceptive. IMO, he did do something to "that little girl".

If I had any knowledge of her whereabouts I would definitely come forward.

"any" is extra wording, weakens knowledge of her whereabouts. Without the word "any" "I had knowledge of her whereabouts" is embedded. IMO, SA had knowledge of Hailey's whereabouts at one time, but not anymore. It could be that she was moved -- by a third party?

"definitely", extra wording and weakens the assertion that he would come forward.

It is possible but very unlikely to fulfil a condition which is given in the if-clause ((simple) past/conditional).

jmo

Nic said...

Now we see his true personality. And I know I`m making a speculation, but forensic examiners will break down that computer. They will see what names were used, what e-mails were used, credit cards, anything at all to identify if in fact he was purchasing those.

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HUGO RODRIGUEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, FMR. FBI AGENT: It could. And it remained in the state. And the state prosecutor, it`s fine, but he could also be prosecuted by the federal government because that was all obtained via the Internet, and you would have those charge.

{...}

She was supposed to protect her child. And with that in the house she wasn`t protecting her child. So I do hope if anything she`s at least charged with possession of pornography.

{...}

What they`re doing now is doing some other analysis to see if they can peg the time and place of these -- when the images were placed on each different computer or stick or how it was generated from the Internet to see if they can put people in certain places to see if they can determine actually who it was.



They've had that flash drive for over a year. They would know by now how many computers that stick visited and whether it was in the computer ceased from SA's mother's house. The only way it could get from his mom's house to BDS's and then placed in BJD's dresser would be if it was transported and placed there by someone who had access to SA's mom's house and BJD's dresser.

Why has there not been an arrest?

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla


Press conference held on Jan 31, 2011 of Billie Dunn on the dissapearance and continuing investigation of her daughter, Hailey on Dec. 27th.




COLORADO CITY, Texas -
Monday, January 31st, Billie Dunn called a press conference outside her home in Colorado City to address the rumors surrounding her daughter's disappearance.
Reading a 15 minute statement, Billie spoke out to her daughter Hailey, illustrated her own time line and order of events leading up to Hailey's disappearance, and addressed her current relationship with the only named suspect in the case, Shawn Adkins.http://www.ktxs.com/news/VIDEO-Billie-Dunn-Tries-To-Dispell-Rumors-Surrounding-Her-Daughter-s-Disappearance/-/14769632/14682796/-/v123f6/-/index.html

In this statement BJD states that she's spoken to a woman who saw Hailey at 8:36, she states that the woman showed her a receipt with the date and time as confirmation of a truthful sighting. If this is false information put out to deliberately mislead and impede the investigation, why isn't she charged? Is there a printed version of this press conference?

Lis said...

Anonymous said:

Pat Brown uses the phrase "worse and worse and worse" instead of worst.

Three times she said it (worse)...does that mean she's lying?

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Anon, we mark repetition as sensitive. There are a number of reasons a statement can be sensitive; lying is only one possibility. We look at the rest of the statement to find out why it is sensitive. In this case, the sensitivity comes from the fact that Pat Brown is overwhelmed by extreme level of perversion presented by these facts and the sinking realization of how it likely relates to Hailey.

When a word is repeated during a statement which is trying to persuade a person of something, we mark it as sensitive and it is seen that the person is trying very hard to persuade. Why are they trying so hard to persuade? We look for the answer in the rest of the statement. Pat Brown is trying to persuade viewers of how serious this information is. It is appropriate sensitivity, given the circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla



Timeline of Events released by Billie Dunn
Sunday, December 26th

12:00pm: Hailey arrives home after spending the night with Clint.

2:00pm: Billie, Shawn, Hailey, and David have their Christmas dinner.`

8:00pm - 9:00pm: Hailey is playing X-Box in David's room. David leaves to spend the night with a friend.

10:00pm: Hailey is watching TV in her room. Billie tells her goodnight and goes to bed.
Monday, December 27th

5:30am: Shawn leaves for work, using Billie's car.

6:00am: Shawn arrives at work.

6:10am: Shawn leaves work. Shawn says that he quit his job, and went in that morning to turn in his coveralls and clean out his locker. He claims that after leaving work

went to his grandmother's house in Dunn, but because no one was home, he decided to go to his mother's house in Big Spring. Shawn further claims that he went directly to his mother's house from Dunn, only coming into Colorado City to access I-20.

6:20am: Billie sees Hailey asleep in her room with the TV on.

6:30am: Billie leaves for work, getting a ride from a coworker.

7:00am: Billie arrives at work.

7:30 - 8:00am: Shawn says he arrives at his mom's house.

10:30 - 1:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey walking away from her house and then back towards her house. A young boy is with her.

12:00pm: A neighbor sees Hailey in the back yard talking on the phone.

3:00pm: Shawn arrives home.

3:15pm: Hailey leaves home to go to Clint's house and then to spend the night with friend.

4:00pm - 5:00pm: David and his friend arrive at home. The friend stays and spends night.

6:15pm: Shawn picks Billie up from work.

6:20pm: Shawn and Billie make withdrawal from an ATM.

6:30 - 6:40pm: Shawn and Billie arrive at Billie's mom's house.

7:30pm: Shawn and Billie arrive home.

8:30pm : A woman sees Hailey, the friend she said she was spending the night with and a teenage boy who is unknown to her walking on Hickory Street in front of Alco.

9:00pm: Shawn and Billie go to bed.
Tuesday, December 28th

6:30am: Shawn and Billie leave the house.

7:00am: Billie arrives at work.

12:00pm: Billie calls David, who is home. David tells her that Hailey is not back yet. Billie tells him to text her friend and have Hailey came home. The friend says Hailey did not come over. David calls Billie back and relays this information. Billie tells him go to Clint's house to see if Hailey was there. Naomi tells David that Hailey came over on Monday, but did not stay there. Billie talks to Clint, and tells him that she is leaving work to come to Colorado City and report Hailey missing. Billie calls her sister-in-law to pick her up from work and take her to Colorado City. She goes home and to several of Hailey's friends' houses to see if she can find Hailey.

2:00pm: Billie goes to the police station to report Halley missing.

3:00pm: Billie goes back home to wait for an officer to come and take a full report

If you have any information on the whereabouts of Hailey Dunn please call the Colorado City Police Department at 325-728-5294.
http://www.examiner.com/article/hailey-dunn-a-mother-s-timeline-of-events

This timeline was given to reporters as a printed handout during her press conference.

Lis said...

I just hope there is a good reason in this case that no one has been arrested yet and I hope there is a full investigation going on behind the scenes.

Here is a news account that illustrates why, sometimes, investigation of child pornography can take such a long time. http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/07/29/led_by_an_innocent_into_a_web_of_evil/?page=full

I warn you, it's not easy to read.