On October 16th, 2011, Deborah Bradley was interviewed by Fox News.
Media knew to ask her if she was drinking and if she was drunk. This was shortly after Joe Tacopina took over.
Was she really drunk?
Statement Analysis is in bold type.
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Shocking new developments in the search for missing baby Lisa. As the National Guard is called out to hunt for the missing 11-month-old girl, an adorable child, "People" magazine is reporting tonight that Lisa`s mother was quite possibly in a drunken blackout -- that`s right, a drunken stupor -- the night this beautiful, angelic, precious, helpless child went missing. Is that why the little girl`s mother is now changing her story and changing her time line?
Originally, Deborah Bradley said she put little Lisa to bed at about 10:30 p.m. But now she is claiming that she actually put Lisa to bed at about 6:40 p.m. Hello. That is a difference of about three hours and 50 minutes. That is huge. What could account for such a wild discrepancy? Could it be that she`s now admitting she probably had more than five glasses of wine that night?
Deborah is now flat out -- that`s right -- admitting she was drunk that night. Listen to this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you drinking that night?
Note her answer is verbally "yes" with the realization that "yes or no" questions are the easiest to lie to. I suspect that it was the attorney for Deborah Bradley who contacted media and told them to ask Bradley if she was drunk.
This may have been done in an attempt to cover her inconsistencies and changing story. Let's let Bradley speak for herself and listen:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How much?
BRADLEY: Enough to be drunk.
Note no pronouns. She did not say who had enough to be drunk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you were drunk?
Note the above question was answered with a "yes" verbalized. Here, there is even less conviction.
At no time did I hear Deborah Bradley ever say that she was drunk in this or any other interview. It is simple to say "I was drunk" using the pronoun "I"; something I did not hear her use.
"I was drunk the night Lisa went missing" would be reliable, if Deborah Bradley said it, on her own.
She did not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of people are going to say, "Deborah, you were drunk that night. Is there any chance you did anything to hurt your daughter that you`re just not telling us?"
BRADLEY: No, no, no. And if I thought there was a chance I would say it. No, no. I don`t think that alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that.
The denial is sensitive, and she still does not say she was drunk.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And Deborah also said that during this interrogation, cops used some, well, you might say controversial techniques, in an apparent bid to try to get her to say something. Listen to this from ABC`s "GMA." This is pretty fascinating.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BRADLEY: During interrogation we found this. They showed me burnt clothes. She showed me a Doppler thing with pings from a -- that my cell phone. And I`m led to believe at this point that none of that was real. I hope the burnt clothes weren`t real.
MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: I`m telling you, what if the house had of caught on fire, Jane? Would she have been able to get her kids out of there? No, absolutely not.
And, you know, his whole thing today, it was very strange. You first saw Bill Stanton, who is a private investigator from New York, get up there and say, "Well, I`m leaving, but another New Yorker is coming here," and then he introduced Joe Tacopina. It was very, very strange.
And then, you know, Joe went on to say, also, that the members of law enforcement had been insensitive during interviews of the parents. Well, you know, sometimes you got to play hard ball, if you`re law enforcement, to try to get to the truth. And that`s what it`s all about, Jane. Law enforcement getting to the truth.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely. And again, she is the one who was seen on surveillance video buying the wine, which in and of itself, there`s nothing incriminating about that. But not even two full hours before she allegedly put this helpless, helpless child, 11 months old now, ten months old at the time, to bed, she`s seen on tape buying booze at a local store. O, that happens at around 5 in the evening.
Listen to this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REBECCA GUERRERO, SAW MOM AT STORE: They pretty much asked me, you know, if she was depressed, you know. If she seemed depressed. How she acted around the baby. You know, if she, you know, seemed stressed out. Pretty much questions that, you know, would -- I would know because she would talk to me a lot, you know.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what did you tell them?
GUERRERO: I pretty much told them she never looked depressed around me, you know. She always seemed to have a smile on her face when her kids were around.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK, there`s the clerk talking. You can see the boxes of wine behind her. Deborah Bradley purchased one of those boxes of wine at about 5 p.m. Now she is saying that she put her child to sleep at about 6:40 when she had originally said 10:30. It seems that she`s confused about the timeline.
I want to go out to Wendy Walsh, psychologist and the new co-host of "The Doctors." Congratulations on that post, Wendy.
I`ve got to say. I want to emphasize that I have experience with this, and I`m not proud of it. I have the dubious distinction of being an expert in this area because I am a recovering alcoholic. Sixteen years ago when I had my last drink. More than that, actually. It`s coming up on 17 years in April. Knock on wood I make it. One day at a time.
Listen to this from ABC`s "Good Morning America."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BRADLEY: "... you failed."
I said, "Failed what? What question did I fail?"
He said, "You failed the one where you know where your daughter`s at."
And I said, `That`s not possible. I don`t know where she`s at."
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: It seems to me odd, Mike Brooks, that she is the one telling everybody that cops told her she failed a polygraph, because cops refuse to confirm that. They`ve also refused to say that she is a suspect.
What do you make of my theory that possibly the blackout from alcohol could be the reason that she failed the polygraph?
BROOKS: Well it could very well be, Jane. But it also could be an investigative technique, that they`re not getting all the answers that they think they should be getting.
And, you know, we heard Joe Tacopina today say that he didn`t like the way that law enforcement was handling her.
So she`s the one saying that, though. I mean, maybe she did. But they think that she knows where the baby is located, and she`s saying she doesn`t. It could be an investigative technique or she may have actually failed the polygraph. But law enforcement aren`t going to say, "She failed the polygraph." We heard that from their spokesperson.
If she had blacked out, she would be able to say she does not remember without indicating deception. Alcohol blackouts mean the memory is not there. Deception is seen when there is an attempt to deceive.
If you had no memory of something, you would pass the polygraph because you would not even know if you were deceptive.