Friday, October 12, 2012

Jessica Ridgeway: Body Dismembered






ARVADA - The body found in Arvada was "not intact" according to Westminster Police, leading to the lengthy process of positively identifying the body. It is still unknown at this time whether this body has any connection to missing 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway.
Westminster Police and Arvada Police held a press conference Thursday afternoon, revealing they have notified Jessica's family about the dismemberment and how they are working as quickly as possible.
Authorities due to the condition of the body, a positive ID is not expected until Friday.
Sources tell 9NEWS workers who typically pick up trash in that area found the body Wednesday.
The Pattridge Park Open Space Area - south of the Rocky Flats National Wildlife Refuge - is dotted with abandoned coal mines. The area is favored by road bikers and model airplane flyers on weekends.

It is about seven miles southwest of Jessica's home and 11 miles south of where Jessica's backpack was found in Superior.
Westminster Police spokesperson Trevor Materasso says they are still encouraging witnesses to come forward and call their tip line at 303-658-4336.
THE INVESTIGATION
Westminster and Arvada Police spoke Thursday morning regarding the body found in Pattridge Park Open Space area in Arvada and its possible connection to the missing 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway.
Aslo on Thursday, the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit released a list of changes that a person committing a crime against a child would exhibit. Among them: sudden differences in appearance, missed appointments, being absent from work, or leaving town with no explanation. Police have ruled out Jessica's parents.
In tweets, Westminster police said investigators had worked overnight to identify the body. Officers searched more of the open space Thursday as well as areas closer to Jessica's home. Police said photo radar vans - normally used to detect and photograph speeding vehicles - were being used to monitor some streets around the girl's house.
Police have ruled out her parents - Sarah Ridgeway and Jeremiah Bryant, who lives in Missouri - as suspects.
"At this point in the investigation, after thoroughly looking at the parents, we're confident they're not involved in the disappearance of Jessica Ridgeway," Materasso said Wednesday afternoon. "The focus shifts to [an] unknown suspect."

Jessica's mother last saw her daughter walking to school. The girl never arrived, setting off a frantic search by hundreds of law enforcement officials and residents.
NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSE

Aurelio Florez, who has lived in Jessica's neighborhood for six years, said it was shocking that Jessica could have vanished during a two-block walk to a park where she usually met friends before continuing on to school.

"You can see the park from her front door," he said.

Fliers about the fifth-grader were posted on nearly every house in her neighborhood of modest, two-story homes with single-car garages. Purple ribbons, a symbol of hope for her return, were tied around trees.
It was a lively area where children played outdoors, said another neighbor, Luis Pena, but since Jessica disappeared, parents are keeping their children inside and people look at each other with suspicion.

"Nobody trusts anybody anymore," he said.

The only real clue police have revealed in Jessica's disappearance is the discovery over the weekend of a backpack and water bottle that she had with her when she disappeared. Police won't discuss what was found in the bag or test results on it.

The items were found in Superior, some six miles from Jessica's home.

Westminster police repeatedly have urged the public to study the details of Jessica's face in a photo - a small, gap-toothed grin, a slight bruise on her nose - and a short home video, hoping someone may have seen something.
Watch the video below:
Police looked for clues in a reported sighting of a car with Colorado plates in Maine and a Wyoming abduction. The FBI said Thursday that abduction was unrelated.

Additional police were sent to Jessica's school, said Lynn Setzer, spokeswoman for Jeffco Public Schools. The district has its own security officers at other middle schools and high schools.

Steve Saunders, a spokesman for nearby Adams County schools, said the district is trying to strike a balance between reassuring students and their parents that they are safe, while encouraging them to be vigilant.

Saunders said the district has security officers at all middle schools and high schools, but not elementary schools. He said the district will seek more help if authorities believe it is warranted.

119 comments:

Jazzie said...

"Stranger Danger letter was sent to Jessica's school last month:

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/Arvada-PD-Put-Out-Stranger-Danger-Warning-Last-Month--173730311.html

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if the mother and everyone in that 'close knit family' group interview have taken polygraphs yet?

Not to be gross but who goes to the trouble of dismembering a body but then leaves a part or parts in an open, clear area? Like where the backpack was found, not thrown behind a bunch of brush but sitting up on somebody's front sidewalk? This leads me back to my same suspicions. Someone who wants the body found but not the evidence.

Anonymous said...

Since it was discovered at the foot of the Rocky Mnts, I would think an animal may be involved.

Amy said...

The identifiable parts of the body are missing. That's not the work of an scavenging animal. That's the work of a monster.

Anonymous said...

I am sick about this. Oh the horror; her fear, crying and begging for her life, her unbelievable pain. I can only say that I hope and pray that Jessica was already dead before the dismemberment began. This is a killer who needs to be shot on sight. No need for a trial. No need for "let justice be served". What justice?

Before anyone comes along saying that she only had a 2 or 3 block walk, only 500' from home, and bla bla; remember that Sierra LeMar was abducted off the end of her driveway, SHE TOO having only a short distance to walk to her bus stop, a beautiful 15 yr old girl trying to make it to school. Jessica could have been snatched off her driveway, or at any point along the way, as certainly no one was paying any attention to her.

Mama dearest had closed her door, shut off her phone and gone to bed. NO WAY would she have heard Jessica's screams even if right in front of her house. Mama could have been dead asleep well before Jessica left for school that morning. In fact, this mad killer had more than eight hours to torture, rape repeatedly, mutilate and dismember Jessica before she was even reported missing.

Either one of these girls could have been watched by their insane killer on other occasions who could have driven around looking for a girl to take and would have known their routine and that they would be alone, or could have driven up and snathed her on the spot, looking for a girl to rape and mutilate, never having seen her before. Easy pickings, girls alone!

I repeat to all those who refuse to listen: It only takes seconds to snatch a child from ANYWHERE! It is NOT safe to allow your children outside their door without an adult being there. PLEASE stop this insane practice of allowing your kids out to play by themselves, walking to a friends home alone, letting them go shopping alone, or walking off or biking to and from school or anywhere else alone, no matter HOW short the distance may be;

not even with two or more girlfriends alone, they TOO have been snatched on many occasions, or the abductor taking just one, leaving the others behind. One from a CVS parking lot who had gone shopping with her g/f. One (that we know about) from inside Walmart; also an infant snatched in a well-lit Walmart, left alone momentarily in a shopping cart. Two from a shopping mall parking lot on bikes, the bikes left. The two cousins on bikes in broad open daylight. The list goes on and on. I guess these parents too thought that it could never happen to them. Well, it did.

Don't you all know by now there are people just riding around looking for a child to grab?! Male AND female? Jessie Duggard comes to mind, her two abductors lived 70 miles away and had made several trips looking for the right girl to snatch! Unfortunately her step-father was across the street on his bike watching but was unable to peddle up the hill fast enough to save her as they sped away.

How simple it is to accompany your children anywhere they need to go, stay with them, or send another adult, else don't allow them to go. How simple and inexpensive to make sure your doors and windows are securely locked at all times. No slip ups, no excuses. Don't trust anyone but yourself anymore; not your b/f, step-daddys and mamas, not the priests and other youth ministers, not counselors and coaches working alone, not the teachers, some which now practice their extra-curicular activities on our children, not the boy-girl cub scout leaders. NO ONE. Keep your eyes and ears open and protect your kids YOURSELVES.

To those who want to make excuses and justify their lazy lack-a-dasical selfishness, STOP ALL THIS STUPIDITY AND PROTECT YOUR KIDS! DON'T make your kids pay for YOUR selfish 'lack of caring' mistakes that can cost them their lives; sweet childrens' lives gruesomely abused or murdered; lost forever, never to find closure and never to be rectified. Don't let this be YOUR fault.

Anonymous said...

Right. :-(

MizzMarple said...

I don't think it was made public IF the mother and "crew" had taken polygraphs -- I wish LE would say something, but as usual, I doubt they will.

And I agree with Anon at 6:38 am -- that someone wants the body found but NOT the evidence -- thus, the dismembering of the body.

Unfortunately, this reminds me of little Zahra Baker ... very sad ...

Anonymous said...

Could the Mom's indicators of deception in her statement have to do with guilt? Not guilt of being responsible, but guilt of knowing as a Mom she didn't do all that she could/should to protect her? Maybe the Mom didn't even see her at all that morning, then shut off her phone, but isn't actually involved in her disappearance. Could that be enough?

Generally in family killings, dismemberment isn't involved, is it? Seems too gruesome and calculated.

LE has ruled out the Mom and Dad but no one has said anything about the others in the giant group of people that were around her during her interview. What about who was with her that night?

JoJo said...

One would think that in order to declare them "cleared" and officially say they are "not suspects " that they have each taken and passed a polygraph exam(s). Unless there is concrete evidence that somehow definitively rules out the parents, thus making a polygraph unnecessary, although I can't imagine what that would be.

MizzMarple said...

"Generally in family killings, dismemberment isn't involved, is it?"

Little Zahra Baker : her step-monster dismembered her -- but I still think her "father" knew !

As to LE "ruling out" the mother and father, I think LE was just saying that -- maybe as part of their strategy.

All just my opinion.

Jen said...

I hear what you are saying about animals but last night during NG she refered t the body as 'hacked' & had a expert commenting on whether the damage could have been due to the body being ravished by animals... unfortunately they said it was clearly dismemberment. That being said we are talking about the Nancy Grace show so maybe she was just sensationalizing...(imagine that, lol).

Assuming this was a deliberate act, I have the same question as Anon 6:38...why would someone dismember a body, (presumably to prevent ID &/or make it easier to conceal or transport) and then leave the body in an open area to be quickly found. Maybe it's an attempt to further terrorize this family & community, or ???...I don't know! Doesn't make any sense to me, if this was a stranger abduction then it seems like the kidnapper would need to quickly dispose of the body by simply dumping it. I mean the whole country is looking for this little girl & the killer takes the time to do this!?

Anonymous said...

MizzMarple I, too, think the father was involved. Any parent who would stand by and allow his child to be kept in the crawl space of a ceiling to live for several months is quite capable of helping dispose of the body. He was in lawn care wasn't he? Quite handy with power tools needed to cut down tree limbs? Why he wasn't charged and is free as a bird in Austrailia disgusts me.

I also agree about LE's position in this case. If the person isn't cooperating perhaps if LE let's the public know the resulting pressure on the person will be enough to get the person to talk. If the person is talking I wouldn't let on what I thought about the person and would encourage as much dialogue as possible. How much more at ease can someone feel than being told by LE that they definitely are not a suspect. Police can lie, they can lie in interviews to try and get at the truth.

Maybe LE don't want to force polygraphs because if one or several of that clan fail it they'll run to protect themselves by lawyering up.

Pak31 said...

The neighbor says you can see the park from her front door. Makes you wonder why mom wouldn't watch her get to the park then. Also on another site they mentioned something about someone seeing her near a rec center at 8:30 am the morning she went missing and that a unicorn pillow pet of hers was found near there and also the rec center isn't on the path to the school that she would have taken. Does anyone else know about this? They also said a friend's dad went to the park because it was cold and was going to drive them but when Jessica didn't show they left. I hope someone can verify this info.

Pak31 said...

Until the police say it was "hacked" I wont' believe NG. What gets me is that I looked at the school website and classes start at 8:50 am. Do we know when she left for school? I thought is was 8:30. It's just so hard to believe that she was taken is such a very short time frame. Unless she was being stalked what are the chances that within say a 10-15 minute window that she is snatched??? Even less time than that because how long would it take her to get from her front door to the park that she never made it to? 5 minutes tops? That is why I question if anyone else saw her leave the house that morning besides her mother.Most of the time when a child is taken, they are discarded soon after. Her backpack was first spotted on a sidewalk in the early morning hours of Sunday the 7th. It wasn't there Saturday evening. This was north of her home then her body is found south of her home days later. Crazy.

Anonymous said...

I believe the police know that it was not an animal scavengering. Some killers dismember the body of their victim and pose them, like the Gainesville murderer did and even the Black Dalia's killer. That is what I believe this killer did. The way they found her must have shocked them all because upon coming across her body the purposeful dismemberment was evident. I'll bet the killer probably wanted to shock and probably got excited about it too. I have read that serial killers get to a point where between the murder of one victim and the next, the amount of time between each murder becomes less in span, until they can't stop and it's like a binge. I think that's what happened with Bundy. Serial killers want the body found, so in this case this is the outcome they anticipated.

Chipmunk said...

I also read somewhere that you can see the park from Jessica's house. If only her mom looked out the window to watch her.
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Anonymous said...

The police have said that Jessica's parents are cooperating and are not suspects. When she is able, maybe in a few weeks time, I would like to hear from Sarah Ridgeway's mother that she took, and passed a lie-detector test.

I remember when I had my first-born 24 years ago. One of my best friends from High School was working as a psychiatric nurse for young adults. She said to me, on the night of my daughter's birth when I called to tell her with the good news "I know everyone is going to give you advice. Here's my advice: trust no one. Not fathers, uncles, aunts, cousins, even people that baby-sit your kids and tell you how much they love your kid. Trust no one. Raise them, care for them and BE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIFE."

I am angry at Jessica's mother that she did not walk her daughter to school. I am angry that Jessica's mother said Jessica enjoyed pretending to give foot massages with lotion. I am angry that Jessica's mother turned off her phone knowing that the school had no reliable way to get ahold of her in a timely fashion.
For the evil thing that did this to Jessica: you are not human. I am a RN and I still pause before breaking a chicken-bone when cooking. How could you do this this to a little ten-year old girl? There is no cure for rabies. You are a rabid dog and should be put down just like a rabid dog.

UMich.edu said...

OT ~ D'Andre Lane found GUIILTY of felony murder in the disappearance(death) of his daughter Bianca Jones. At this moment I am proud to say I am from Detroit, we have a Prosecutor that isn't AFRAID to take a chance on prosecuting a case without having poor little Bianca's body. WELL DONE MADAME PROSECUTOR Kym Worthy! Hey J. Dipsh!etro ~ TAKE NOTE!

Anonymous said...

From the police statements I think they really do not suspect family involvement. It sounds like they are more worried about that the monster who dismembered the body can be a serial killer in the area. The fact that it takes so much time to identify the body sounds scary.

Anonymous said...

I haven't kept up with this case at all and have to catch up on what's going on, but here are my questions.

1)How long did it take the Mom to make a statement? Had she been "calling out for" Jessica?
2)The parents are not suspects, but is the Mom involved with anyone?
3)Is this a small or large community and how many sexual offenders are in the area?


Just a side note: I read recently that there are actually less abductions and crimes against children than there was when we were growing up, but social media and 24 hour news stations make us more aware. However, my daughter's bus picks her up 30 ft from my front door and if the neighbors aren't out there, I stand outside with her until I visibly see her get on the bus. There are so many little kids that run freely around our neighborhood, I am constantly in a state of shock. There is a little girl(8) at the end of our road that plays outside alone all of the time. Sometimes she has her 3 yo little sister outside with her!!! No parental supervision at all. They are numbers 7 and 8 out of 9, so I guess Mom figures 2 less kids in the house is better or something.

Apple said...

Anon 11:02,
This is a powerful post. Thank you.

MizzMarple said...

It was several days before Mom made a statement.

As to whether the mom was involved with someone seems to be the "Million Dollar Question" right now -- I have asked this question on another forum and no one seems to know the answer, and I have not found the answer in any of the articles I have read.

JMO but there is something "hinky" with the mother ...

CEC said...

Hurray! Good news, and I hope it gives other prosecutors the backbone to go after these scum when they lack the body. RIP, sweet little Bianca.

Anonymous said...

I don't think this child ever made it out of her house that day alive.

Anonymous said...

In Sarah Ridgeway's interview, she refers to herself as "you", 2nd person rather than 1st, and I'm wondering why. She says, "you go the school and you lose a little more hope, etc.". What is she trying to distance herself from...the crime or the pain she is feeling? She then began to cry and talk about how she wouldn't wish this on another parent. I did not see any tears (of which I saw many with the father) and why would she be thinking about other parents at this time? It all seems like distancing but it could be that she is in some kind of denial because she can't handle the reality of the situation. Would love to hear your take on this Seamus

Skeptical said...

When Sommer Thompson was kidnapped, there were questions about her mother Diena's demeanor and statements also. Her feelings of neglect of Sommer manifested as guilt. I think this mother may be experiencing the same thing.

Skeptical said...

I also watched Nancy Grace last night. What I found disturbing was her litany of how much evidence could be found on the trash bag, how it could be traced from the manufacturer, how markings on the bones could be determined, etc. If he was listening, she essentially gave him a list of evidence he needed to get rid of. Will this woman never learn. Two women commit suicide after being interviewed by her and now she gives a lesson in how to cover your tracks after committing a crime.

MizzMarple said...

I agree ... I don't think she made it out of that house alive ... and no one saw this child anywhere that morning ...

Hmmm ... what about the other people that live in the home ?

Bonnie Blue said...

press conference streaming live right now: http://www.9news.com/video/player_live_2.aspx concerning Jessica.

MizzMarple said...

LE has just identified the body they found as Jessica ...

Now searching for her abductor / killer !

Anonymous said...

So sad to hear.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21760363/westminster-officials-call-news-conference-jessica-ridgeway-case

Jazzie said...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/294129/222/Live-Video-Authorities-ID-Arvada-body-as-Jessicas

Light the Way said...

In response to others, upthread, who stated that the only reason for a murderer to dismember their victim is to conceal identity:
Not so!

Another reason, just as common, is for ease of transport of the victim's remains for dumping.

There's also one more, albeit a MUCH less common reason for dismemberment, that I can think of, which is serial-type murders where dismemberment is part of the ritual of killing.
Sometimes this is to display the victim's remains for shock value, of those who find it.

Not saying that's the case here, by any means, but just pointing out that concealment of identity isn't the only reason.

Plus, concealment of identity is really a non-possibility when you're talking about a ten year old's remains. Even if the head/hands etc. were not found...how many children's bodies are found on a daily basis that it would be hard to figure out who this is, especially dumped within 10 miles of the abduction site???

Anonymous said...

Here is information from an article at http://usnews.nbcnews.com

“We suspect that someone in the community knows this individual,” FBI spokesman Dave Joly said at a press conference Thursday.

In their search for Jessica, the FBI in Denver said it’s important to focus not on how this person looks but on any kind of unusual behavior.

That behavior could include missing work and appointments, leaving town, changes in alcohol and drug use, or changes in appearance, according to an FBI Denver press release.

“Somebody who’s maybe very engaged in the media coverage of this particular investigation, and maybe they’re a little annoyed by all the coverage.

Jazzie said...

This news posted and has a sketch. I don't know if it's related to the Jessica case:
Thu 10:15 AM, Oct 11, 2012
Updated: Fri 12:15 AM, Oct 12, 2012

"After several similarities in the two attempted abductions in Arvada 11 news reached out the family of a little Stramoor Valley girl who was kidnapped in June. Surprisingly enough, there are paralells in that case as well.

The two Arvada girls reported a man in a blue four door sedan approached them a month before Jessica Ridgeway disappeared.

Months before that happened, 11 News obtained a homeowner's surveillance video of a blue four door sedan driving off. That driver is suspected in that kidnapping where the girl was taken for at least 20 minutes and later released at a local gas station.

That suspect was never found and the family says while the victim is recovering, she is still a little apprehensive about walking or playing far from home.

We reached out the El Paso County Sheriff's Office and they tell us, this case is still an open investigation. They have exhausted all leads and say tips are welcomed.

If you know who kidnapped the girl back in June, call the Sheriff's office right away."

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/Arvada-PD-Put-Out-Stranger-Danger-Warning-Last-Month--173730311.html

Anonymous said...

It's terribly unlit & rugged in that community immediately outside the housing developments.It's not like being in downtown Denver, or NYC, where it's lit at night. Once it got dark in that community, it wouldn't be hard to move around with a dead body or a backpack, & drive here or there to dump it off sight unseen.

Which brings me to this: usually male killers leave their victims in places far from what they're familiar with; female killers leave their victims in places familiar to them, according to the DOJ. It's certain that the child predator trolled these communities - Westminster, Arvada, Superior - near the schools, looking at the set up of the developments, assessing, strategizing, perhaps stalking kids from wide open areas with walking paths behind the houses hidden by the wooden fences common to each of these housing developments, & seeing which kids are consistently left alone to walk. But the predator saw that these communities would have a similar "lifestyle" or circadian rhythm to them - the families would generally all go to bed by 2am & be very very quiet until the newspaper deliveries or garbage trucks would roll out in the wee hours. It's not like in the bigger cities where people are up at all hours all the time. So, he knew he could leave a backpack in one of the communities with youngsters where a lone backpack might not get attention right away, & those wee hours would find him less detectable under those street lamps, so he could blend back into the dark, unseen, quickly. He also knew that SR 93 traffic was detoured to County Road 5 from 120th to Coal Canyon (the street parallel to, & north of, West 82nd Ave where her body was dumped), from 7:30pm to 6:30am...so maybe this is what brought his attention to the area & gave him the idea to find a victim from Witt Elementary. Or, maybe he lives in the city further away, & comes to Arvada to troll for victims in the communities whose schedules & lifestyles are very predictable, dumped his victim there, & returned home. Also, Boulder is not far from the Superior, Colorado community he dropped the backpack off in...JonBenet Ramsey's killer has never been found...is there a connection ?

Anonymous said...

This killer spent time with her, not just assaulting her & possibly torturing her, but in killing her & the aftermath.

Family members would tend to bury the body, or at least cover up the head/face with something like a shirt. Non-psychopathic parents wouldn't dismember their own children. And in Zahra Baker's case, it WASN'T HER BIOLOGICAL MOTHER who dismembered her...it was Cruella, her bipolar step-notmom. These parents of Jessica's aren't involved.

Jessica's predatory killer is experienced at killing, gets pleasure in killing, dismembers like a hunter or like someone with CSI forensic knowledge, is remorseless. Once he's completed his fantasies, he's done. He had no use for her backpack & stuff...he ditched it. Sadistically & psychopathically played 'cat & mouse' taunting game with the cops with that backpack. IMO. Or, is flaunting his crime to other child predators in the area. He took his time to dismember & dump her - perhaps separately from the backpack, perhaps on the same trip.

Anonymous said...

There's a municipal airport just north of Jessica's housing development. Does he fly in & out of it, for pleasure or for business, living someplace else ? Cops haven't mentioned it but it screams out to me as a possibility they might want to look into.

Gigi said...

Thank you for your reply, Mizz Marple. I still have been unable to go back and read to catch up other than seeing they did identify her body. 2 of my kids are home with strep and my computer time has been minimal. I have read a little bit of a previous post here and I agree with your hinky meter. I can't tell if it's because she is involved or just because she's just naturally a bit off. There's something that is just niggling at me though just from the little I've read.

Anonymous said...

Sierra Lamars mom too

Jen said...

Um, I'm confused...where are u getting this info from...that the predator trolled the community & knows all the families generally go to bed by 2am & show no activity until the newsparer or garbage trucks, that the walking paths are hidden by wooden fences, that they knew traffic was detoured on certain streets at certain times? Is this info available somewhere, or are you basing these theories on personal knowledge of the area? What makes you think the killer knew these things? I'm not being a jerk, I'm intrigued by your specific info...

enigmaticstatic said...

True, I hope he is caught before he hurts some one else.

Vita said...

Jessica your death, your life taken - will never define you
One precious being, you, just you, who created joy and happiness for countless
One precious priceless being that will never be duplicated
One Jessica Ridgeway that has a presence - and will remain a presence
Just You

Justice for Jessica, is not enough.
Jessica needs everyone to unite with her, for her, to see her in every little girl and boy
Her spirit is innocent, she lives on, she is everywhere
Her life taken is not to be Vein, her life, all young life, needs eyes/ears to protect, serve, be alert, watch, pay attention. To vision, to see the world as if you were 4'10, 80lbs with sunshine under your feet.

No need for guards 24/7 to instill fear, only is necessary to have a world filled with open minded
Guardian Angels. One voice, one person, to see, watch, interfere, could make the difference of life and or death.

Jessica Ridgeway you are not to be added to a list
http://youtu.be/2RT-UsT6jCk

enigmaticstatic said...

The press release from the FBI is what makes me feel like they know they have a serial killer on their hands. I think they felt that way from the start even before they found Jessica. Watch the press release and wait for the Guy from the FBI. Watch his facial expressions, something is seriously up there.

enigmaticstatic said...

Well said, this makes me think back to a case in OK where Carina Saunders was tortured and dismembered to fit in a duffel bag. It ended up being a trafficking ring, that was gang related. Didn't even know the girl but used her as a way to "send a message" to people/ victims who might rat them out. It was a way to intimidate their other victims, some of who were forced to watch. The father has been to prison from my understanding, do you think he may have angered the wrong person or people in there? It crossed my mind.

Gigi said...

I don't mean to pick fights with the DOJ, but everything we were taught in our Crim classes was that killers prefer to stay in areas that are familiar to them. It's not male/female, it's the general MO. As they get more comfortable with killing, they will move further from their comfort zone.

Apple said...

LE descended on a RSO's home last night, which at least shows us the direction they are taking. I hope they are closer to finding her murderer.

Another positive note is that the vehicle used in the Wyoming kidnapping has been confiscated. I am unable to link from my phone.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

I agree too



Sarah: it was any other morning. I came home and she, you know, her alarm goes off at 7:45 She wanted an alarm clock so she could, you know, get up on her own and so her alarm clock goes off and she comes down and she watches TV and she and she eats her granola bar, goes up and gets dressed(I think the mom killed Jessica in her bedroom) , comes down and, you know, we peel oranges for her for her snack at school.

She fills up her water bottle. She does everything on her own because she wants to make herself look like she's a grown up. She wants to be a teenager before she's a teenager and so, ( this sounds like they may have been arguing over makeup or clothes ) you know, she she gets ready and she gets dressed

Jazzie said...

Some more info:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=484927421527597&set=a.394304277256579.91039.212865135400495&type=1

Anonymous said...

A few questions that I cannot find the answer:

Has Sarah Ridgeway taken a polygraph?
Did Jessica have any siblings living in the home?
Did an adult stay overnight in the home on October 4th-October 5th (the day she went missing) while her mother worked the night shift?
If she had adult supervision, who was the adult that stayed with her?

Anonymous said...

Oh wow. That anyone could be hollering about Sarah taking a polygraph at this time, when her little girl's body has been found, and in pieces, must be a despicable human being. If the investigation leads back to her, so be it. Until then, what a horrible thing to insinuate, when LE has already publicly stated that they are confident that the family is NOT involved.

Anonymous said...

OH, and in case some missed the actual news report (which is an important thing to read, if you want to air out your opinions online), JESSICA'S GRANDMOTHER stayed in the home with her overnight each night while her mother worked. The grandmother lived WITH them. Read a report or two before sounding off, kthx.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

In the long interview with the family the mom uses present tense when describing the events of the morning Jessica disappeared,(story-telling/deception) then when recalling returning to her neighborhood from a police interview she switches back to past tense.(truthful) Mom did it.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

Also in the interview she says she was in Jessica's bedroom the friday she disappeared, and when asked to address her daughter on camera she says " I want to say to Jessica..." she "wants to", but knows Jessica is dead

Anonymous said...

To the person that said Jon Benets murderer has never been found. Technically yes, but the parents were involved. Just cause they found a strangers DNA does not take away their guilt. To this day I believe they were into some sick stuff and she died in the process.

And the other person that thinks it was Zaharas step mother alone, I also think u are wrong. I think that man was just as involved. He even made the fake 911 call. And when he moved she was still "missing" yet he left her belongings behind. I stuggle just to get rid of my sons old clothes and he's right next to me alive and healthy.

They were involved. And showed lil to no concern.

My only thought as I keep thinking something is off with the moms statement analysis especially the past tense reference is that maybe the lil girl was killed by her and she's trying to stage it to look like something else.

Someone said above that her schoo starts at 8:50, it's over a mile away yet she left at 8:30. She was not gonna make it on time. That would take a 10 yr old at least 30 minutes I would think.

Then they said it was 8 hours later she found out the school called. That's 4:30. So u don't instantly call 911?!? 8 hours she's been missing was not enough to instantly call 911.

I also question the concern that the school she applied to would call more than once. To me that sounds like BS.

And she spent more time talking about the morning routine (and didn't speak in past tense) that about any efforts to find her.

Just too many things that don't make sense.

Maybe there's some logical reason but it seems off to me.



Jazzie said...

No numbers.
No lists.
Jessica exists.
In another world.
She remains whole
and untouched.
Alive.

Jazzie said...

http://www.examiner.com/article/jessica-ridgeway-case-to-be-solved-by-50-fbi-agents-or-1-westminster-housewife

Bonnie Blue said...

As far as we know, No, she did not take a polygraph. Nancy Grace figured it was because the FBI searched her house twice & so it wasn't necessary. The mom said something about it wasn't necessary but if needed, then she probably would (not her exact words). Her words are always strange, and scattered for some reason (my opinion). Some have attributed it to guilt over not being more attentive. Information is limited.

Grandma, Sarah, Mom and an Aunt lived in the home (per their facebook page for Jessica), and she walked to the park to meet friends that would then all walk almost a mile and a half to school together. Supposedly, the park they met at was at a distance that could be seen from their house (but sadly mom didn't watch her walk that day considering she never made it to the park). Grandma said she watches her each night while mom works, until 730am, at which time mom comes home & helps her get ready for school & sees her off. No known siblings.

I hope that helps.

No matter how we look at it, it is just the saddest thing ever. That poor little girl ... I just can't imagine.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

Search continues for missing Westminster girl Jessica Ridgeway
Posted: 10/08/2012 09:47:43 AM MDT
Updated: 10/08/2012 09:53:05 PM MDT
By Kieran Nicholson
The Denver post

On Monday, Jessica's grandmother said the family is close and rallying around Jessica's mother, Sarah Ridgeway.
Family members have been talking about putting out a statement, and may do so later, Christine Ridgeway said. "We are doing a family conference right now, getting
our ducks in a row."
"We are not letting Sarah decide on this by herself," Christine Ridgeway added
At about 1 p.m. Sunday, a man in Rock Creek posted on the Superior town Listserv mailing-list server that he had found a backpack and a water bottle with Jessica's name on it. He was not aware the child was missing and posted, "If this is yours come and get it," Materasso recounted.

Anonymous said...

Well, I guess when I tell my class, "Today, I want to talk about..." does NOT actually mean that I will, in fact, talk about that thing on that day. How silly, especially when I open nearly every class with those words, and then proceed to talk about exactly the topic mentioned.

You really should understand how horrible it is to jump immediately on the mother with "Mom did it." It's been discussed here that "sensitive" indicators do not necessarily mean guilt of the crime, but guilt about something else - like, having to work late and not being able to see your child off to school; believing your child would be safe in the short walk to meet the other children; even something as simple as not being home to kiss your child goodnight, not realizing it would be your last chance to do so. Those things produce real guilt, and often, real guilt leads those experiencing it to pessimistically assume the worst because of the already bad circumstances. This is real. Just as real as your "she used the wrong tense" stuff, and probably more so.

IF Mom did it, then you're right and I shall readily admit it. If Mom did not, I highly suspect (because I've seen it way more on this blog than any other) that not a single person who posts here will recant their positions. I further suspect that there will be either a sudden void where posts would have been, or a lot of "well, she was probably involved in some other way, because I don't like the way she put her words together." Childish.

Anonymous said...

I am not placing the blame for Jessica's murder on anyone except the animal that did this to her.

However, I wish to use this forum and any other forum that I can get my hands on, to hopefully, shake parents like Sarah Ridgeway out of their own neglectful stupors.
It is NOT ok to let your pre-teen child walk alone three blocks.
It is NOT ok to go to sleep without having a reliable contact system, either. For any reason.
Sarah Ridgeway could have easily and confidentially told her daughter's school "hey, I work nights, I am a single mom. She walks three blocks by herself. I am often asleep during the day. Here is my back-up person/phone number. You call me or my back-up person if she needs anything or if something is off."
Instead, Sarah went to sleep. So, yeah, I think this could have been avoided.

Anonymous said...

This CBS article reveals a few more details about Jessica Ridgeway's mother, in the last half of the article -

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/10/10/police-find-body-in-arvada-wont-say-if-its-jessica-ridgeway/

snipped:
"Sarah Ridgeway’s coworkers went to her home on Tuesday to deliver food for the family.

“People wanted to donate vacation hours for her to use for being away, but we don’t want them to do that,” Sarah’s employer Bob Pliszka with ParTech said. “We’re just going to take care of Sarah as long as it takes so she can get work off her mind, obviously, during this difficult time.”

Pliszka told CBS4 Sarah is a good employee and has a lot of close friends on her shift. He said her friends are feeling somber, but hopeful."

Anonymous said...

I’ve been reading about the Ridgeway case this weekend. Boy, her mother was setting her up for abduction if you see how far it was to her school to walk, & do a googlemap “street view” tour of her path & the subdivision. She lived just a few houses south of 108th Ave, which is the edge of remote. I mean, if you take a left, you’re in prairie. Even if you face 108th from the end of her street a couple houses down from her, all you’re facing is open space w/low lying office buildings set wide apart, & beyond that, remote. Very desolate.

Same is true to the south, as you get out of the park she supposedly would meet up w/a friend to walk with. Once that street (107th) reaches Moore St, the houses are either fenced with solid board fencing, with foliage/trees obscuring the walkway for privacy, or they’re facing at an angle away from the intersection the kids would walk across 4-lane 106th Ave to the open space leading to the elementary.

The elementary is over a rise, past the open space, & no one walking is viewable from the school..i’ll bet it’s a perfect place at night to rape. There’s another subdivision that the elementary school is nestled in, making it far more secure for those kids walking. But not Jessica’s. Not by a million miles.

Jessica lived across the entire subdivision from her elementary school.

"Just a few blocks from the park" doesn't nearly describe how the road curves off, obstructing view of a 4 foot high child, how much wood fencing there is to impede the view of the walking child, & where the driveways are in relation to wood fencing that an abductor could drive into to obstruct the child, pin them into a corner between a car & a fence, & no one else would be the wiser.

There’s no excuse for her mother to not have driven her to school, seeing as she’d have just driven home & her engine would still be warmed up. No excuse at all.

You all should googlemap it, get to street view, & take the tour of her neighborhood, then go to the north of her home to 108th Ave, take a left, & see what I mean. Then, do the same for the place her remains were dumped at – go to Rt 93 & West 82nd intersection & proceed east. Picture it being nighttime. See for yourselves. Do the same for Superior, CO where the backpack was placed…the setup for that elementary school across from the subdivision it was placed in is astonishingly similar to Jessica’s – a message the perp must’ve been bringing to the cops attention, IMO. He walked the item back to the intersection of Alpha Ct, which is a cul-de-sac that abuts an open space with a paved trail & a pass-thru into the cul-de-sac…all the homes have those same full-board fencing so he’d be able to walk around sight-unseen until he got into Alpha Ct. from the open space, if that’s how he went…that paved trail leads to the road the elementary school is on, just across from it.
Wide open spaces, remote.

Anonymous said...

This is where to start at if you’re going to take the googlemap tour of Jessica’s subdivision to her elementary.
10786 Moore Street, Westminster, CO
Moore St past Moore Ct to Chelsea Park, thru the park, to 107th Ave, to Moore St again, to 106th Ave. Elementary is directly across 106th, but up over the rise, past the open space.
Go back to her home (start location), go north this time to 108th Ave, look around to the north to get oriented, take a left, get to the T-intersection, look across & you’ll see a pull-off or driveway/road that has a pasture-type gate. The perp could’ve been subduing & restraining Jessica here, after stun-gunning her when he abducted her, then driven in obscurity anyplace he wanted in the desolate region.

Anonymous said...

LE is, by law, allowed to lie. And, they use their lies to direct their investigations.

So for LE to declare the parents "cleared" without qualifying HOW they've been cleared, THE MEANS USED to clear them, we can only take that at face value...that, plus $1.20 will buy you a McDonald's hamburger off their dollar menu.

Anonymous said...

Cody Wyoming Child Rape/Abduction Suspect Caught
http://k2radio.com/report-cody-abduction-suspect-caught/

Anonymous said...

Light the Way -
I agree with you about the purpose for the dismemberment, from the killer's standpoint.
It's also my belief in this particular case that the killer is playing to law enforcement's pressers, to some degree. First he leaves the backpack & the presser says "look out for changed appearance in Jessica" and modify her missing flyer to exclude the glasses. That tells me that her glasses were in that backpack, & that tells me - from the killer's point of view - that Jessica no longer needs her glasses, b/c he's killed her. If her clothes were included in the backpack, that further tells me that she was already dead, & in retrospect from the body parts found in the open space 4 days later, it reinforces the fact that he'd probably already planned to "change her appearance" by dismembering her - she didn't need those clothes & he was returning them to her family, & to law enforcement, taunting them with his being in full control (of the community by fear, of the investigation by what he decides to 'share', etc) & being sadistic to everyone.
Furthermore, the dismemberment serves to hasten the decomposition of her body by natural processes, but also by exposure to the elements & to scavengers, & by putting some of her remains, but not all of them, out in the open space, it is also sending the message to police that he's in control, and also gives them a deadline to find the rest of her before scavengers & the elements & decomposition totally destroy her & the evidence.
I believe that this killer has kept all of the parts of her body that contain orifices, including parts of her trachea & esophageous, for his own perversion & to keep his DNA from detection. I believe that he's kept certain organs he violated & destroyed them, for the same reason of evading detection. All my own theories of course.

Anonymous said...

Dismembering the body also serves to deny the Medical Examiner from determining a manner of death, in addition to destroying evidence & hastening decomposition, & eventually from finding the remains as they become dry bone then "ashes to ashes, dust to dust".

Apple said...

Um...

Jazzie said...

ANON @4:04 & 4:05
"I’ve been reading about the Ridgeway case this weekend. Boy, her mother was setting her up for abduction if you see how far it was to her school to walk..."

"...Go back to her home (start location), go north this time to 108th Ave, look around to the north to get oriented, take a left, get to the T-intersection, look across & you’ll see a pull-off or driveway/road that has a pasture-type gate. The perp could’ve been subduing & restraining Jessica here, after stun-gunning her when he abducted her, then driven in obscurity anyplace he wanted in the desolate region."

This is extremely detailed mapping. Just saying.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

but guilt about something else - like...her obvious food addiction

Jazzie said...

ANON 4:04
"Picture it being nighttime"????

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
She, I knew when they called and said she hadn’t come to school, I knew something was wrong SO I MADE SURE , you know, she wasn't in the places that I knew she wasn't going to be, but,

My sister in law gave me a ride home from Snyder to Colorado City, I stopped at the house first TO MAKE SURE Hailey hadn’t come back home.

Sergio: Oh no, they, they just, they just went right now, my oldest son, the 14 year old, he went running around JUST TO MAKE SURE UM, but I, she's nowhere…

These parents are “making sure”, expected words missing; looking, searching. Sarah tells us why, you know, you have to check

Most mothers do not lose hope so quickly. She is describing the first hour of searching and is already losing hope? There is also the placement of these emotions here that bother me: they are in the "perfect" or "logical" part of her statement. Humans take time to process and we find that the emotions come later in a statement; after the searching, for example. 
Seamus O RileyOctober 10, 2012 6:48 AM

Jeb said...

Ok, I'm officially disturbed

Jen said...

Strange, right?!?

Jazzie said...

Jen:
You think?!!! Just a tad freaked out.

LisaB said...

Good points, anonymous.

Jazzie said...

"The elementary is over a rise, past the open space, & no one walking is viewable from the school..i’ll bet it’s a perfect place at night to rape."

This is extremely disturbing.

Pak31 said...

Bonnie, the thing that gets me is that I have read, I believe in the Denver Post, that mom stood in her driveway and watched Jessica walk til she was out of sight. I don't know what to believe anymore as I have heard it both ways. My problem with all of this, and I am not blaming her mom, IF she watched her walk, then she would have seen her make the park---wasn't the dad there already waiting for her to show up? I am wondering how she could have disappeared IF mom watched her and the other parent was at the park. I wonder if Jessica really left her house that morning at all? Like I said, I can't accuse the mom of anything because I have no proof but I am saying what if...If the mom watched her walk out the door then closed it behind her then fine, I could see her being taken between home and the park. I just wish we had clarification on that, why the vagueness? Then mom conveniently has her phone away from her the one day her daughter disappears. If anything it's just bizarre the way things went down.

Pak31 said...

To Anon 1:20: I am a very loving and good person, but there are a few things that made me suspect of Sarah. I have admitted in my posts that I am not accusing her of anything because obviously I can't do that as I don't know for sure. I don't see why on a blog like this that we can't openly discuss our gut feelings. I would never disprespect her, as I can't imagine what it could possibly be like to go through something like this. But, even she said that she would take a polygraph and that she understands it's their job etc. So even Jessica's own mother sees the need to eliminate people even if it's the own parent of the child. I don't know one way or the other who did this, I do know that some of the things she's said are odd to me. I could be nerves, grief or sadness but I still find it odd. It doesn't make me childish.

Pak31 said...

That means nothing really. Was the grandmother there that morning? Did she see Jessica leave for school? Has the grandmother been cleared? I know these are crazy questions and kind of sarcastic too but do any of us know all that went on in the house that morning? No. So to say that grandma lived there helps the story but proves nothing.

Pak31 said...

Great post anon5:37. The whole school time bothered me too. If she was just walking to the park to then be driven by the friends dad then that would make sense, they'd make it in time. But to walk, no way and you want to get to school at least 5 minutes or more to be in there before the bell rings. So ten minutes to get to a school one mile away?? Also, if the dad was driving why not pick her up at her house then? Why wait at the park? Lastly, I have read either here or elsewhere that the 7:30 phone call to the friends dad wasn't made that Friday she disappeared but the Thursay prior. Mom said it was that morning. Too many discrepencies here. Her alarm goes off at 7:45 but she calls at 7:30? I just wish we had more clarification on everything.

Pak31 said...

Sarah stressed more than once in her interview how her daughter wanted to be so grown up but at 10 years old and in 5th grade you don't allow your child to dictate to you how they want to live their life. She was too young to be allowed to be so "independent". 15 years old walking to school and possibly ignoring a phone call, I can sort of forgive but not at 10 years old, no way. Just because a little child wants to act grown up doesn't mean they should. You are their protector. Her school was notified and parents about abductions in the area, that alone would make me watch like a hawk. If my child walked like that I'd walk with her or drive her. My son was in 5th grade last year and I walked him everyday to the bus stop, 3 houses down.

Jen said...

Jazzie- check out this post further up thread, Anon Oct 12 5:20pm...I think it the same commenter and as you can see I asked them to please clarify where they are getting this info...its peppered with details you certainly don't get from a google map

Bonnie Blue said...

Unfortunately no. If you listen to her statement she says that the last she saw Jessica was when she shut the door behind her. The, Jessica went to the park to meet a friend that she usually walks to school with - over 1 mile away. Her Mom did not say that she watched her through to the park that day. I did read that the park is close enough to be seen from Jessica's house (3 blks away), but, I don't know if that is accurate.
It was snowing, or bad weather, that day so the friend's father decided to drive both girls. So I doubt she would have been able to see the park in those conditions anyhow??? They waited at the park for Jessica, but she never showed, so they left.
Mom turned phone off & left it in another area because a College she inquired about was constantly calling & she wanted to sleep (she works graveyard).
Sounds like the perfect storm.
Her statement concerning exactly what happened seems to not be accurate to consider for analysis because of the way the interviewer asked her to repeat what happened that morning, or was it another typical day (something to this effect) ... she gives a scenario but I guess we don't know if she is speaking of a typical day, or THAT day? It sounds like she is telling us THAT day to me, but that's JMO.
I guess time tells all.
It's a horrible crime no matter how you look at it. All of it.

Jazzie said...

JEN:
Read it today. I had dismissed the "Anon Oct 12 5:20 pm" due to the JonBenet reference. But when I re-read it I noticed it was of the same style of the other disturbing comments. This is too freaky. I was starting to wonder if anyone else noticed these comments. Who goes into this kind of detail, mapping, hypothesizing, criminal imaging?

Jazzie said...

"You all should googlemap it, get to street view, & take the tour of her neighborhood, then go to the north of her home to 108th Ave, take a left, & see what I mean. Then, do the same for the place her remains were dumped at – go to Rt 93 & West 82nd intersection & proceed east. Picture it being nighttime. See for yourselves. Do the same for Superior, CO where the backpack was placed…the setup for that elementary school across from the subdivision it was placed in is astonishingly similar to Jessica’s – a message the perp must’ve been bringing to the cops attention, IMO. "

Who knows this much detail? And Why?

Anonymous said...

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"This is not the closure we wanted," said Jessica's great uncle, Larry Moss, who lives in Independence, MO……

"I would GIVE MY RIGHT LEG to have him brought justice and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. There is no price on it," Moss said.
Jessica's body was found Wednesday, but the identification of the body was delayed because it was not intact. DNA was used to identify her. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49405568/ns/local_news-nashville_tn/t/body-confirmed-belonging-missing-jessica-ridgeway

A person with the physique of a shot-putter may have been able to hurl Jessica’s remains from the road.

Jen said...

Jazzie- I'm with you, I'm uncomfortable with these details about the routines of those living in the neighborhood, the streets being closed, how the area is unlit & they keep referring back to the fences. Of the many things which disturbed me in the post above, three things really stuck out...1. The 'perfect place to rape' comment, 2. The message they think the perp was sending (as if any part of this heinous crime was carried out as a message or to bring the cops attention to the dangerous layout of the neighborhood!?) and this...

3. 'He WALKED the item back to the intersection of Alpha Ct, which is a cul-de-sac that abuts an open space with a paved trail & a pass-thru into the cul-de-sac…all the homes have those same full-board fencing so he’d be able to WALK around sight-unseen until he got into Alpha Ct. from the open space, if that’s how he went…that paved trail leads to the road the elementary school is on, just across from it.'....

How does this person know they WALKED the backpack to where it was left, (and that its a cul-de-sac that abuts an open space w/ a paved trail & a pass thru into the cul-de-sac). All I heard about the backpack was general info about it being left in a subdivision in Superior, but maybe more info is available than I'm aware? Like you I wonder if anyone else noticed these because, honestly the first time I read over them...I kinda zoned out because of all the 'mapping talk', but then in the next post down the stun gun comment shook me & I read back over them. Sorry so long, just disturbed by the detailed imaging & asking myself the same question...how do they know this?

Jazzie said...

JEN: These are some of the comments that struck me as well.
1. "But the predator saw that these communities would have a similar "lifestyle" or circadian rhythm to them - the families would generally all go to bed by 2am & be very very quiet until the newspaper deliveries or garbage trucks would roll out in the wee hours."
2. "i’ll bet it’s a perfect place at night to rape."
3. repeats words like "remote", "desolate", i.e. "all you’re facing is open space w/low lying office buildings set wide apart, & beyond that, remote. Very desolate., and "the road the elementary school is on, just across from it. Wide open spaces, remote." and the most disturbing "The perp could’ve been subduing & restraining Jessica here, after stun-gunning her when he abducted her, then driven in obscurity anyplace he wanted in the desolate region."
4. Repeated mention of "fence" "fencing"
5. The description of how the backpack was placed in relation to how Jessica's remains were placed.

I'm not sure if this ANON is the same as "Anonymous October 14, 2012 4:35 PM" who responds to Light the Way.

Has anyone tried to do the Google Map grim reaper tour suggested by this ANON?

Jen said...

Jazzie- I read the Oct 14 4:35p post & all I can say is...SICK! I don't consider myself sheltered or easily shocked but I want to take my brain out & scrub it after reading the last few lines of that post.

Another thing that strikes me is that ALL of these posts seem to concentrate on the point of view of the killer, what they would have seen in the neighborhood and how it would accommodate their purposes(kidnapping/concealing a body).. even if they are just hypothesizing, the detail is extreme.

Also after you asked if anyone had checked out the Google maps, I looked up the starting address mentioned in this post (anon 4:04) to see what it actually showed. I clicked on the street view & it pulled up an image of a street w/ typical houses on either side(not solid fences) and after clicking to advance forward about 4 times I gave up because after 5 min of clicking & waiting for the images to load I was still looking at the same houses from the original image, just a little further down the street...to sum it up, if they actually virtually toured ALL of the info they mapped out in the post, then it would have taken hours if not days!

Jen said...

Sorry, the address I used is in post 4:05, below

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

Jessica great aunt, Gay Moore, said she wasn't going to say that Jessica was a perfect little girl.
"Jessica was an ordinary little girl, brought up by an ordinary family," Moore said. "SHE ARGUED WITH US. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A BATH. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO BED ON TIME."
"But she touched all of our lives in a special way, just by being who she was," the aunt said.
"I wish we could go back to being that ordinary family. I WISH WE COULD GO BACK TO THE DAYS WHEN HER MOTHER AND HER GRANDMOTHER CALLED HER REPEATEDLY TO GET OUT OF BED TO GO TO SCHOOL," Moore said.
"But we can't and we are going to move forward into our new normal. We'll be a strong family as we always have been."
Moore thanked "the people, who searched, donated food, made signs and held candlelight vigils and prayer services."
"We can't say thank you enough to the Westminster police, the FBI and the many agencies who worked so hard to find our scared little Jessica and who are now determined to find her killer," Moore said.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/memorial-service-for-jessica-ridgeway-will-be-held-tuesday-at-faith-bible-church

She talks about the bedroom and arguing.

Jazzie said...

JEN:

OK I tried to Google Earth the Grim Reaper Tour and gave up cuz of the complexity (I totally agree would have taken days to complete!). I don't know if the ANON is:
1. LE
2. A person who loves to criminal profile
(In both 1 & 2 cases SORRY I'm so crazy stupid and paranoid about your observations!)
3. Predator at Large
(OK should I call in the tip line or what?!!!)

Jazzie said...

I'm wondering why we are the only ones commenting on these obvious crazy posts? Are people moving on so fast from cases? This is a horrific case. I keep checking Twitter, Westminster Police, Channel 9 news. Why is it so quiet on here on SA?

Jen said...

Jazzie: Here's my thinking...like you I wonder if this poster is option 1 or 2, but it's been like 3 days since the Oct 14 4:04 & 4:05 posts which we both commented on as disturbing (plus on the 12th I asked them to clarify where they were getting their info, if this is the same person which I'm pretty sure it is). If they are 1 or 2, then I'm kinda surprised that they haven't spoken up to defend themselves.

As far as the tip line, the only people who know whether these things are significant are the Colorado LE who know what was in the backpack, and know if the details being shared are pertinent to the case...so??!

Peter, if you see this please look over the comments referenced & give us some guidance!

Jen said...

Jazzie- I was wondering the same thing about why more people(namely the author of the posts) haven't chimed in...thank you for making me feel like I'm not the only one who is freaked out ; ).

I'm also keeping tabs on this case because it's so shocking...I want to know what kind of monster could do such a thing, but if you notice NG & the other National shows have all moved on too. Sad, once her body was found I guess the story is over for them.

Jen said...

Sorry-I meant the author of the comments, each time I check I expect to see a reply from the Anon explaining their observations but so far....none

Jazzie said...

JEN:
Thanks for responding. I hope PH or someone sees our concerns and observations. Jessica Ridgeway's case is so heinous. It freaks me out. I live on the East Coast. I understand that the comments posted could be from someone who has criminal profiler ability and can "map out" potential predator footprints/mind. I keep asking myself "What are the chances that the predator who committed the crimes against Jessica Ridegway actually commented here on SA?" I'm thinking "slim to none" but who the hell knows? What if this predator is highly intelligent, and looking to bait/catch/release information? or simply to boast? or toy with someone's brain? I don't underestimate a predator.

Jazzie said...

What struck me about the ANON posts was the invitation to take the tour. To "Picture it being nighttime". They invite the reader to visualize a predatory blueprint for a heinous murder. This person provides extreme detail of the entire neighborhood/abduction/killing scenario/evidence found.

Who does that?
And why?

Anonymous said...

Jen & Jazzie,
Just so you know, you aren't the only ones who kept checking back, re-reading the post, or felt this way. I read it the first time and thought "what the ???" and it kept gnawing at me enough to come back & see what someone else's take was. I kept wondering to myself how often do you think predators go & search the web to "revisit" their crime & what if this person was somehow ... I don't know. I don't articulate as well as you guys so I am more of a reader rather than commenter. But the part about us picturing it's night was creepy but what REALLY sent me over, was the stun gun & rape....and the detail. Okay, all of it is just very disturbing.
I doubt a criminal profiler or anyone in the police force would really spend time going over blogs or care enough to comment. I am sure it's someone just toying with people who are already scared .... but, it's creepy none-the-less!!!!! Or like you said, maybe it's just a person who was just as effected by severity of the crime & spent and unusual amount of time trying to solve it in their own head? I really don't know. It's creepy.

Jen said...

Thanks for responding Anon 8:08...like I said to Jazzie, I'm glad to see that others feel something is off about these posts.

Jazzie: I've been struggling with the same questions regarding if a predator would go online to revisit their crime, to get an idea of the publics reaction, or even just to toy with people like us and enjoy seeing how horrified we are by their crime & their musings... even if they did would they end up on this site?! Who knows, after all we all ended up here at some point...

I'll check back later & if nothing else, maybe we can post a comment on one of the newer blog entries calling Peter's attention to these comments...i don't want to bother him but I would really love to get his take on these & whether they should be reported or something!

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

JebOctober 15, 2012 3:27 PM

Ok, I'm officially disturbed

This sounds like LE.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
2. As you list each behavior, use a plus + 1 to indicate something you find to be normal, or expected, a - 1 for anything you find, in their behavior, that is a negative, or a ( 0) for something you cannot decide if it is a positive or negative. When you are done, if you are in the + 1 or more range, it is likely truthful, but if you are in the - 1 or lower, you are likely seeing guilt. If the number is deeper, say, past 5 either way, the reliability of your finding is high. If you come out with a score of zero, it could go either way.
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011_10_01_archive.html




1. Jessica went to school +1
2. Jessica was a pretty 10 year old, could be targeted +1
3. Mom let her walk alone after being warned “stranger danger” -1
4. Mom delayed reporting Jessica missing; -1
5. Food addiction -1
6. Mother waits 5 days before going to the press -1
7. Mother eerily predicted what searchers found -1
8. Mother arrested http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Sarah_Ridgeway_3457400/ 0
(Possibly the same woman?)
9. Custody battle -1
10. Mother laughed while talking about Jessica’s disappearance -5

Anonymous said...

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8. Mother arrested http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Sarah_Ridgeway_3457400/ zero
(Possibly the same woman?)

The 0 on the end was for scoring. It's a mugshot of a 21 year-old Sarah Ridgeway; born 11/4/78, charged with simple battery.

Jazzie said...

JEN:
I found this recent (Oct. 18) news article doing a google search for Jessica Ridgeway:

http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-9976-jessica-ridgeway-killerrss-lsawareness-spacers-may-lead-to-clues.html

There are 2 Map links.

I'm not sure what to think now.

Jazzie said...

Also read the comments to the Boulder Weekly news article.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

The third commenter is the same sicko from this blog.

Jazzie said...

ANON 4:04
"Picture it being nighttime"????
October 15, 2012 7:50 AM

The time of day is wrong.

The people Jessica lived with talk with sensitivity about her bedroom.

Jazzie said...

The Anon @ October 14, 2012 7:35 PM
writes "from the killer's standpoint" and
"from the killer's point of view" and then goes on to describe the most horrible despicable stuff.

Extreme profiler? or a What?!!! Who talks like this?

I read your posts. I'm not good at SA. Did you read this:
"Jessica great aunt, Gay Moore, said she wasn't going to say that Jessica was a perfect little girl.

"Jessica was an ordinary little girl, brought up by an ordinary family," Moore said. "She argued with us. She didn't want to take a bath. She didn't want to go to bed on time."

"But she touched all of our lives in a special way, just by being who she was," the aunt said.

"I wish we could go back to being that ordinary family. I wish we could go back to the days when her mother and her grandmother called her repeatedly to get out of bed to go to school," Moore said.

"But we can't and we are going to move forward into our new normal. We'll be a strong family as we always have been."

Moore thanked "the people, who searched, donated

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/memorial-service-for-jessica-ridgeway-will-be-held-tuesday-at-faith-bible-church

She mentions how Jessica didn't want to take a bath and not go to bed on time at a memorial service???

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

She mentions how Jessica didn't want to take a bath and not go to bed on time at a memorial service???

October 19, 2012 5:42 PM
The guilty disparage the victim.

Pastor Rick Long of Grace Church in Arvada said Jessica had two fish, two frogs and a dog, and she loved Disney films. She enjoyed wearing green and blue makeup as part of her peewee cheerleading squad at a nearby high school, and she was looking forward to dressing up as a zombie lifeguard for Halloween.

Jen said...

Jazzie, sorry...my lil guy is sick so I've been tied up @ Dr office & spending most of my day in a rocking chair :(

I'll take a look @ the article u posted & the comments today...have a nice wknd

Jen said...

Jazzie: Checked out the article & your right it provides a lot of the mapping details. I still find a lot of the stuff about the rhythmns of the neighborhood, and a lot of the other things we've already mentioned weird & also the fact that the commenter still hasn't explained(maybe they have not seen the requests to explain or that they freaked people out...or don't care to explain?)

Jazzie said...

JEN:
Thanks for responding. I know I'm being a bit OCD over the comments. I've been posting on the newest SA Ridgeway Case post.

Did you check out:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21820092/jessica-ridgeway-what-happened-colorado-girl

It's an interesting article that takes you through the timeline. If you get the time check it out. I have been checking twitter & Westminster Police updates.

Hope your lil one is better.

Jazzie said...

JEN: I agree with you about the language of the comments in question. "Circadian" isn't a commonly used word. I've only heard it a couple of times. Usually people explain their posts if questioned on something stated, especially if is of a disturbing nature. But no response here or @Boulder Weekly. I'm hoping it just some "extreme" profiler.

Anonymous said...

The creepy "anonymous" comments are too spot on. Latest news says that body parts were found in the crawlspace underneath his home.

Does anyone else think Sigg was posting on here? The google map, neighborhood descriptions, posts trying to suggest a profile for the murderer. too wierd. makes me sick.

Jazzie said...

ANON@ 8:34 asks:
Does anyone else think Sigg was posting on here?

You think??! I live on the East Coast and I got so freaked out from those OT scary posts I actually contemplated emailing the tip in. But LE kept stating about needing info from locals re: predator description and the cross that I just chalked it all up to my wicked imagination that the killer could actually be posting here and at the Boulder Weekly.

Jazzie said...

"Austin Reed Sigg was arrested Tuesday night, accused of strangling 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway, dismembering her and placing her body parts under the two-story home where he lived"

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/25/justice/colorado-ridgeway-suspect/index.html

Read the Anon post to Light the Way @October 14, 2012 7:35 PM

The post states "from the killer's standpoint" and "from the killer's point of view". There was never any mention of the contents of the backpack by LE so where did all the info re:backpack originate? The revised missing poster (Jessica photo without her glasses) and LE statements to "concentrate on her facial features" plus the post goes on to describe horrible stuff. It all still freaks me out.

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