Here's a short example of Statement Analysis.
A reliable denial has 3 components, and only 3. If 2 are present, or if 4 are present, it is not a reliable denial. A reliable denial has the pronoun, "I", the past tense verb, and addresses the allegation specifically. Here, a reliable denial would be: "I did not slap the boy."
New Jersey mom accused of slapping daughter's bully denies claim
Published October 22, 2012
Associated Press
TOMS RIVER, N.J. – A woman who says her 9-year-old daughter was bullied said Sunday that she took matters into her own hands when she confronted one of her daughter's tormenters on a school bus, but she denied slapping anyone despite being charged with assault.
Rebecca Sardoni said she and her mother boarded a school bus Friday morning bound for East Dover Elementary School and asked for a boy they claimed had been harassing her daughter on the bus.
Several students on the bus said Rebecca Sardoni then cursed at the boy and slapped him and a boy seated next to him while her mother yelled at the two boys, Toms River Police Chief Michael G. Mastronardy told The Asbury Park Press.
Rebecca Sardoni, 28, of Toms River, and her mother, 51-year-old Stephanie Sardoni, of Beachwood, were arrested Friday and released on summonses. Rebecca Sardoni is charged with simple assault, criminal trespass and making terroristic threats. Stephanie Sardoni is charged with criminal trespass.
Rebecca Sardoni told The Associated Press that she regretted boarding the bus, but she denied touching or hitting anyone.
"I was upset. I wasn't crazy woman upset," she said. "I don't put my hands on my own kids. I would have never put my hands on anyone's kid."
Please note that she did not deny slapping the boy. She said, "I don't put my hands on my own kids" in the present tense. She also said, "I would have never" instead of "I did not..." with "would" a future/conditional verb tense. When someone says they "would not" do something they are avoiding saying they "did not" do something. It is very commonly used in deceptive denials.
Sardoni said her daughter is upset and nervous about going to school Monday. She said she's considering sending her daughter to a new school but knows for sure that the girl won't be taking the bus anymore.
"It's crazy that this got blown into me doing something wrong — me and my family — when this is my daughter that is the victim," Sardoni told the AP.
Here she only says it is "crazy" it got "blown" into "me doing something wrong" which appears like an embedded confession within her own words.
Sardoni said she took matters into her own hands after school officials ignored complaints that her daughter, who is also in fourth-grade, had been verbally and physically bullied by four students. She said her mother merely stood at the front of the bus with the driver.
School officials couldn't be reached Sunday by the AP.
The boys were treated by nurses from Toms River Regional Schools for cuts to their mouths. One of the boys was taken by his parents to a local hospital for treatment of a neck injury, Mastronardy said.
The stepfather of one of the boys — who have not been named because of their ages — told the newspaper his stepson had a cut on his lip after Rebecca Sardoni slammed his head against the bus window
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24 comments:
There needs to be *working* video cameras on all school buses, for everyones safety.
I believe the boys. They were both slapped, and the crazy mother and grandmother must have either worn rings or really put some force into it. Disgusting. They should just put their 9 yr old in martial arts class! ~Christy
I wish she'd handled it more calmly. What she did was criminal. It doesn't take brute force so scare crap out of some awful little bullies, just an adult being verbally aggressive. They didn't deserve to be beat up by an adult for it. But they certainly deserved to have their butts put in line. Bullying is torture.
Back when my mother went to school, kids were literally thrown into the closet by the teacher when they were bad. Bad= whatever the teacher deemed bad. My DH went to a Baptist school where he was paddled (beaten with a device!) for not doing his homework. I guess it's ok from the school, but not from a random parent? Or it was ok 'back then' but not now? Why?
It seems like whenever someone says "I would never..." They are trying to convince themselves they "would never" - big feelings of guilt there. I understand the frustration of not being able to put a stop to your kid being bullied - my daughter emptied trash with the janitor during recess for a while to avoid being abused in the third grade. I didn't know until a clueless teacher told me what a wonderful volunteer my daughter was - only then did my daughter tell me what was happening to her. I worked with the school to get the bully off her backbit they didn't successfully put a stop to it - instead the principal told me " the poor boy " had lost a sister to a shooting and just couldn't help his bad behavior. The final straw was when he held my daughter down on the bus and screamed at her - and left bruises on her arms. No matter that I did imagine confronting this bulky in my head - I moved her to a different school instead. She's a teen now and still affected by what that "poor boy" did to her - she doesn't like to be touched. I wish real solutions to bullying will be found someday.
Considering the injuries they suffered, in addition to the witness of the other kids nearby, I don't think there's much doubt the crazy woman physically accosted these kids, which also leads me to believe that her mother is lying and cursed them.
What this mother should have done was to have taken her daughter off the bus before it ever came to this, since it has now resulted in this anyway; and taken legal action against the school inasmuch as she had reported the bullying to them and they had ignored her and taken no action. I might have even considered taking restraining orders against these little brat bullies, which I DO believe they were.
If their parents couldn't teach them, maybe now these two bullying brats will learn that some parent might beat the he!! out of them if they bully again. Lesson learned? Probably not, now that they are being justfied in their bullying actions all because this mother attacked them, which was a worse thing.
However, as adults, we can't just go around attacking someone elses kids (or anyone else) even though they might deserve it. That's what we have laws for. Now she has made it even harder on her daughter whether she stays in that school or moves to another one. Additionally, now she faces the almost certain possibility of having legal action taken against her by these parents (and possibly a jail term) when it would have been the other way around had she used her head prior to the attack on their brat children.
I agree, there needs to be working videos on all the busses at all times, (in addition to mandatory seat belts). Too bad there wasn't one. This nut is all over the charts with her use of the words "never would", etc., but never a straight faced denial. I agree, deceptive.
Yes Skip, bullying IS torture. We learn now, some kids commit suicide rather than go on being torture bullied by other kids that no one will stop. There's one on uTube right now (was aged 15?) who is STILL being bullied even after her suicide.
I am sorry for this little 9-yr old girl. I'm afraid her bullying has only just begun since her mother attacked these two boys, even should she move to a new school.
Skip, we cannot trust teachers and faculty to always make the right judgment in physically punishing our children, as they are frequently not right or did not thoroughly investigate the incident, or have believed another kid who falsely accused them.
Years ago when I was in an elementary country school, I had my hand paddled in front of the entire class and was sent to the cloak room to sit alone for hours. I cried and cried. I was just a little malnourished girl, shy, and stuttered so badly I could hardly speak my own name, much less converse much with anyone.
Whatever I had been accused of, I'm sure couldn't have been much as I stayed mainly alone in fear I would have to try to talk. I certainly never drew attention to myself. I was too afraid too.
I purely hated being called on in class and was humiliated enough to die on the spot as I could only stutter. I do not believe now, years later, that I did anything bad that would have attracted attention to myself.
This was the most horrible experience of my entire horrible life (and there were many) and I never recovered from the sickening nauseous feeling in my stomach from the fear, embarassment and humiuliation in front of the class. Even now, upon reflection, I can feel it.
But a good thing happened. Later, I had teachers who took pity on me and did not call on me for answers in front of the class. They would let me do my papers and hand them over privately, grade them and hand them back. Then one appointed me as the school artist and I was exempt from a lot of classes, study hall and recess. From then on I painted/drew all of the artwork for the school, so at least I eventually had an escape.
Funny thing, a magical thing happened: I COMPLETELY quit stuttering all in one day when I finished school and left home the same day. Was I bullied? I can't even begin to tell you how MUCH I was bullied but I never thought of killing myself. I only wanted to run away and DID the day I finished school, which I've never regretted and never looked back on.
OT:
Please can we give some coverage to Autum Pasquale, 12, missing in Clayton, NJ since last Saturday:
CLAYTON — Authorities are asking for help finding a 12-year-old Clayton girl reported missing on Saturday.
Autumn Pasquale was last seen leaving her home on West High Street around 12:30 p.m. Saturday, borough Police Capt. Lisa MacDonald said.
She was riding her white Odyssey BMX bicycle, MacDonald said, adding her relatives reported her missing around 9:30 p.m.
Pasquale is white, about five feet, two inches tall (although a Facebook post says she's five feet, four inches tall) and weighing about 120 pounds. She has blue eyes and blonde hair, which she was wearing in a pony tail or bun when last seen, police said.
She was wearing Navy blue shorts under sweatpants of the same color and a yellow T-shirt with “Clayton Soccer” printed on the front. She also wore bright blue high-top sneakers and a silver or light gray cinch backpack with “Reckless” printed on the back.
More info and a pic here:
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/10/clayton_girl_12-year-old_autum.html
Might we have an open thread for our off topic posts, so that we don't disrupt a conversation in progress?
If these boys were being "insert expletive here" then they deserve what they got. These women were only doing the job their parents should have done long ago.
Oh Anonymous....I just want to hug you.... so consider your self hugged lovingly and warmly. You are the definition of resilient. Take care of yourself and I hope amazing things happen for you and to you.
Anonymous October 22, 2012 9:40 AM
Hugs you tight honey xx
So you think an adult hitting a child in the face that is not theirs is not only acceptable, but commendable? And the lesson they are teaching their own daughter/granddaughter is? As a mother/grandmother it is their job to teach their child how to deal with bullies, not how to assault someone. What these women did was show how to bully not how to deal with a bully. No one has a right to strike a child in the face, esp when that child isn't your own.
I find statement analysis an interesting study (my educational background is forensic linguistics) however, it's interesting that in very few instances, can one's argument be proven. Because analyzing statements is not like math where 2 + 2 always = 4, it makes it impossible to say, even with the same person within the same event, "See, SA proved a,b, and c correct, so SA must also be right in its claims about d."
For those so sold that it has an extremely high reliability rate/record, consider that. It's quite easy to make 'science' look like magic brilliance when less than 10% of your claims can ever be bore out ahead of the fact.
Good thing I have lots of children, when my daughter has a bully I don't need to slap the bully, she has 6 older brothers to do it for us ;)
Anonymous October 22, 2012 9:40 AM
Like Hobs, I'm sending you hugs. There are some teachers who can be very cruel. Even without the physical, the verbal abuse has crushed bright creative children. Thankfully there are other teachers who can cultivate and encourage children out of their shells.
As to the article, the mother and grandmother were wrong. And it leads me to believe that mother and grandmother have put their hands on their own children too. It's arrogant for the mother and grandmother to board the bus and then bully the children involved. There were other, less violent ways to handle this. Now they mother/grandmother can expect lawsuits from the parents and the bullying behavior from those children will not stop.
The little 9 yr old will now have to live with what her mother/grandmother did and the children will pick on her for that.
I remember seeing on either NG or JVM, about a father, a big muscular dude, getting on a school bus, didn't touch a kid, but told them what he would do if they bothered his daughter again. He later said he was sorry, but had lost it because the busdriver or school wouldn't address the problem. I have often wondered if his daughter was harrassed on the bus again. Sometimes you do have to take matters into your own hands to protect your children, but if this woman slapped that kid, she will probably live to regret it. Too many witnesses.
When we rode the bus, there was 5 kids in my family, and about 10 cousins on the bus, no harrassment issues. I don't believe we harrassed anyone, but sometimes it looks different from the other side. Plus, if you got in any trouble at school, you answered to our Mother. Different days I guess.
"I don't put my hands on my own kids. I would have never put my hands on anyone's kid."
Unreliable denial - She slapped him.
@Frannie said...
If these boys were being "insert expletive here" then they deserve what they got. These women were only doing the job their parents should have done long ago.
I'm shocked and appalled. If this is how you really think, I'm afraid for any kids that might come into contact with you. Regardless of whether or not the boy(s) were wrong - Do you really want some strangers coming on a bus to "discipline" your kid by smacking him across the face?
the kid deserves the slap if he was bullying her daughter
I am interested to know the extent to which the little girl was bullied. I can understand why the mother showed a lack of restraint if her daughter came home several days with evidence of physical injuries and attempts to report to the school were unsuccessful. I didn't say what Mom did was right...only that I understand why she did that.
You cannot just go around hitting other people's kids...but that goes for the little bully boys, too. Sure, they're just kids, but kids know not to hit people. Also, I believe the school bears much responsibility here because one news report says that the mother had tried to get the school to listen to her, but nothing was done to ensure her child's safety.
Seriously, you want bad things to happen to your kid? Just keep making excuses for them when they're bullying someone else's precious angel.
@Anon12:50
Wahahahahaha!
Off the topic....breaking news in the Hailey Dunn Case @ www.bigcountryhomepage.com
OT Autumn Pasquale:
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/10/police_body_of_autumn_pasquale.html
"After an exhaustive two-day search to find Autumn Pasquale, authorities announced early Tuesday morning that a body has been found in a recycling container on East Clayton Avenue in Clayton."
This is terrible news. I hope the police find this guy soon, before he can hurt anyone else.
E Clayton Ave is just at the end of the Pasquale family's street. Poor little girl didn't go far.
Please help me do statement analysis on the following quote- I feel like it's hinky but I'm rather inexperienced.
“I walked about eight miles yesterday, handing out pamphlets. Today, I find her 100 yards from my front door. It’s crazy. We’ve been doing everything we can possibly do to bring this child home safely. And it’s nuts.”
Frannie said...
If these boys were being "insert expletive here" then they deserve what they got. These women were only doing the job their parents should have done long ago.
October 22, 2012 11:13 AM
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No child deserves to be hit in the face - whether it be by their own parents or a complete stranger. Let me just say though... if someone hit my child in the face, I would go completely crazy. Hell, touch my child anywhere and it's on. I've been smacked across my face twice in my life, and both were completely humiliating, shameful experiences. No child deserves that.
There are ways to raise children to be caring, loving, and respectful members of our society... HITTING isn't going to teach a mean kid to be nice. Get real. I hope you don't have kids.
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