Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Katelyn Markham: John Carter 911 Call

Katelyn Markham was reported missing last year by her fiance, John Carter.  The following is his 911 call with analysis, followed up by Part 2, his short interview with the local fox news affiliate which is concerning.

There are indications within his statements, including here, that he got into an argument with Katelyn Markham the night of her "disappearance", as we have previously shown in past analysis.  Please look at both this analysis, and the anonymous comment which follows.  I will post the short interview as well as some Behavioral Analysis which is in agreement with the anonymous comment, especially about finances and arguments.  

John Carter: Hi, my name is John Carter, I am calling - I know that you're not supposed to report a missing person after - before 24 hours, but my fiancee is missing, I can't find her anywhere.

1.  "hi"   Please note the that call begins with a greeting. 

 In Analysis, we deal with the unexpected. 

Put yourself in the caller's shoes and presuppose innocence. 

You would be upset, fearful, that your fiance is missing.  Let's note some of the red flags in the call: 

Dr. Susan Adams, in her study of 911 calls of domestic homicide found that a call that begins with a greeting is more likely to be a guilty caller.  There were other aspects of her study including who the caller asks for help for:  himself, or the victim, for example. The guilty caller focuses upon his own self, rather than the victim, and may even disparage the victim. 

  Please note that there is no use of her name indicating a problem in the relationship. He says "my fiance" without using her name.  We expect him to be frantic, not casually, meaning that his words will be in a 'hurry' to get to the specific issues.  Instead, it begins with a casual greeting and here he does not give Katelyn's name. 

911 Dispatcher: Okay, where'd you see her last?

J: Um, I saw her at like 12 o' clock last night. She stays in a house by herself, um, so, she - I'm just, I'm really nervous. Her car's still there, her purse is still -

Note "um" is a pause to think, indicating sensitivity.  Why the need to pause to think?

"She stays" is present tense.  This is outside the boundary of the question, "where did you last see her?"

Note that "so" is highlighted as very sensitive since it shows a need to explain ("so, since, therefore, because, to...") Yet, he broke his sentence (self censoring) so we do not know what explanation he was going to give.  

"I saw her at like 12' o' clock last night" is only slightly weakened by "like";  investigators should focus upon this time period as it is introduced by the subject along with the pronoun "I" and the past tense verb "saw" connecting him to her at this time.  This time period is likely very important to the story. 

Please note the phrase, "I'm really nervous"; not just "nervous" but "really" nervous.  This is a focus upon the caller himself, not the victim.  Innocent callers focus upon the victim and ask for help, specifically, for the victim. 

The focus is upon the caller, not the victim.  He is the one who is "really nervous" but she is the one alleged to be missing.   Note also the context of being really nervous:   it is around midnight and he reports she is alone.  This is suspicious. 

D: Is there an address?

J: Yeah, 5214 Dorshire Drive.

D: 5214?

J: Dorshire, yes.

D: Okay. And you're out there now?

J: Um, I'm heading out there now, I, like, have been trying to get ahold of her and I decided to go by her house to see if she's okay, and her car's still there - she would be at work right now with her car. Which is why I'm like really freaking out.

1.  Note that the question, "you're there now?" is sensitive to John Carter who did not say "no", but avoiding answering it directly.  
2.  He is only going to "go by her house" and reports being in transit, rather than simply stating he is going there.  
3.  "to see" is the same as "because", indicating the need to tell why he is doing something rather than report what he is doing. 
4.  "and her car's still there";  is he there now, and can see that her car is still there, or is he just "heading out there" now?
5.  "I'm like really freaking out" now uses two words to modify "freaking out", making it very sensitive.  This should question if he really is "freaking out".  Again, note focus upon himself and his wellbeing. 
6. She "would" be at work right now instead of she "should" be at work

D: What's her name?

He had to be asked before he gave her name.  This is indicative of something amiss in the relationship.  Police should seek to learn if they fought this night.   Were there any ongoing disagreements between them?  Were there tough issues in what otherwise may have been a functional relationship?

J: Katelyn Helene Markham.

full name given.  We look to see what he calls her next: 

D: Have you called the hospitals or jails or anything?

J: Um -

D: Where was she at midnight last night when you last saw her?

J: She was at her house. She was going to bed. She wasn't going out to do anything, so she would've been in her bed. And I mean, I've been with her for 6 years - she's not deceiving, you know, she doesn't -

He did not use Katelyn's name here.

1.  She was at her house.  
2.  She was going to bed. 

These are two things he states and it is likely true.  He has brought us to a very critical point of the night she went missing.  He should continue to tell us what was happening, or about to happen.  She was at her house and was going to go to bed when something happened.  Now notice the sequence is broken:

"She wasn't going out to do anything"

What someone tells us in the negative is important information.  Here he has three things to tell us what she was not doing:  not going out "to do anything"; not deceiving, and doesn't, but stops himself or is interrupted. 

He not only tells us that she wasn't going out, but adds "to do anything."  This is critical.

Police need to learn what he does when he goes out at night.  

Did she refuse to go out?
D: Okay, and you guys didn't have an argument or anything?

J: Not at all.

"Not at all" is not the simple "no" and should lead to follow up questions such as, "What did you discuss last night?"

This is a strong indication that they had an argument.  
D: Okay. Is she on any medications or anything?

J: Not at all.

He now repeats his previous denial.  Repetition becomes weaker as it goes on, because it gets easier and easier (less stressful) to use.  She may not have been on any meds but she may have been on "anything", such as marijuana.  Compound questions are always to be avoided. 

D: Has she had thoughts of suicide or anything like that?

J: No. Never. I... never.
Broken sentence means missing information.   He begins with a strong, "no", but weakens it with "never"; but then makes this about himself with "I"

Why would her suicide thoughts be linked to him?

This is concerning. 

He does not use Katelyn's name yet. 

D: All right. And have you talked to her mom or anybody like that, to see if maybe she's out shopping, or - ?

J: I called her father. The only thing that's not there is her cell phone, which is positive, but she's not answering it. So... and the Sacred Heart Festival is going on right up the street, and there's a lot of questionable people there, and it's just kind of. I'm sorry.

The question is answered, but then he goes beyond the question to talk about the Festival, casting suspicion towards those at it. 

Note "I'm sorry" is often found in the language of the guilty, no matter what its usage is.  See Casey Anthony.  It is a red flag for possibly guilty status caller.  

 We look to see if the words "I'm sorry" enter the vocabulary of the caller for any reason as it is a red flag of guilty knowledge.  

He has not used her name yet. 

D: Okay, well, we'll go ahead and have somebody meet you there. What kind of vehicle are you going to be in?

J: A 2008 Ford Docus. It's red.

D: Okay, we'll have somebody come out and speak with you, okay?

J: Okay, thank you.

D: Mmmhmm. Bye.

J: Okay. Bye.

He did not use her name except to give the full, formal name.  This, itself should be considered distancing language.  Why would he distance himself from his fiance?
It is concerning. 

Statement Analysis has indicated that John Carter is withholding critical information about the disappearance of Kate Markham, his fiance.  There has been very little in the news.  The following comment was left this morning

none of his friends want to even begin to hink that john could have done it. if he did do it, i think it was an accident. everyone thinks they were a perfect happy couple but that wasn't the case. every couple has problems and fights, and they aren't the kind of people to fight around others. she was tired of him being a broke stoner while she was working two jobs and going to school full time. when he lost the 100 dollars on raffle tickets at the festival she got pissed, and i bet the got into a fight about it and something accidentall happened. and yes, john failed two lie detectors about it. ive known john for years, i know his voice and how he talks. he was and has been lying


Anonymous said...

In a local radio interview, John provided this rambling paragraph in response to an interviewer's statement about Katelyn leaving her purse at home (in other words, not related in the least):

"JC: Yeah. Exactly. And the thing is, is um... she had sent me a picture of a picture of her, that her boss took of her from her internship. I mean she had two jobs and her internship, and went to school full time. So I mean, she was consistently busy, but that stress made her stronger. I mean, she loved the fact that she was being so strong, and, and she was proud of herself. I mean, there was no, there was no anger [rueful laugh], at all, when it came to, to high stress. Um..."

I'm glad Katelyn wasn't "angry" about what happened to her.

Here is a link containing a wealth of information, including media and accurate transcripts about Katelyn's case. If you have time to do another analysis, please continue to help. Thanks for your work.


This quote was taken from the radio interview on August 18, 2011.

Anonymous said...

This is the beginning of the August 16th TV interview at the same link posted in the first comment, in case you want a model for someone starting sentences with "And" and "So." His very first words: I'm sorry."

"John Carter: I'm sorry, I - I just got distracted.

Reporter: No, that's okay. That's all right.

JC: Um, I wound up leaving. Then she was texting me about the things that I had to do and things like that, and I said uh, uh, "Okay, well, I'll take care of it," and all this stuff. And she's like, "Oh I kinda wanted to be there! But it's okay," and blah-blah-blah. Then she sent me a picture, um, of herself. It was like a picture of a picture, because she's very artistic and loves to show me her work, and stuff like that. So, uh, Katelyn sent me a picture of her, and that was the last message I got.

And then that night, uh, when I got home - it was kinda late, uh, I was with some friends after I went to her house - and, uh, I was, uh, watching TV and stuff like that, and, uh... I decided to send her a good morning text message. And, uh... uh, normally when she wakes up, she's like, "Oh, thank you for the message, I love you, I miss you, blah blah blah." And it was like, uh, and, and it - and she didn't do that. But I assumed that maybe she had to wake up, go to work really quick, she was getting late or something, she didn't respond. I kept texting her, I kept texting her, no response, no response. I call her, no response. So then I went to my manager at work and I said, "Is it okay if I go to her house and see if she's okay?"

I went to her house, her car was still there. That made me worry, because she should be at work. So I ran inside - I, I didn't - I mistakenly didn't check to see if the door was locked. I just turned, put my key in and went in, and went up to her room, and she wasn't there, her dog was in there which - he's never there. He's, he usually goes into the bathroom where he's got a bed, and some food and water and stuff. Uh, but he wasn't in there, or he was - he was in her room, um, and uh, uh honestly he - he went to the bathroom in the room and you could tell it had been there for a while, so I knew she hadn't been in her room for a while... and, and that freaked me out. So I immediately called friends, family, police - everything I could do to get my fiancee back. Katelyn is - the love of my life. I've been with her for six years, we've been engaged for a year, today would be exactly a year, um, today's also her birthday, and uh, I really miss her, I, I miss Katelyn a lot and I love Katelyn a lot and I really, really want to see her again. And if anybody can do anything, please do something.

R: Any idea what could've happened?

JC: [sighs] I, I don't even know anyone that would do that. She's literally the sweetest girl. Um... I, I mean - she's, she's so nice and, and caring and - I don't even have any - like, her friends are my friends, and my friends are her friends, um, except for the friends that are in her, at her school, but that's school friends. And it, it just don't seem suspicious to me. I have, I have no one in mind. I, I have nothing in mind. She would never just leave, she's too pragmatic, she would never just - take off and go somewhere. And I - I just, I can't explain it. I don't know."


Anonymous said...

Katelyn was moving on up in life, while John was a lazy stoner, working delivering pizza..She was educated and a worker ,,and again he was a pot head pizza boy.
She deserved so much more than that fat pos..Police, or searchers please do another sweep of the area with the dogs..What do statistics say,,that the missing are usually found within a mile or two of their home?

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