Monday, December 31, 2012

Did Jaimee Chamberlain Participate in the Death of Carnel?

Did Anthony Bennett Act Alone?

Carnel Chamberlain was beaten to death.  His body was burned to hide the evidence of the beatings. 

Anthony Bennett is under arrest for the murder. 
One of the monsters that haunted Carnel's life. 

Questions for analysis: 

1.   Did Jaimee Chamberlain also beat him to death?

2.   Did she know that Carnel was dead before his remains were found?  

3.  Did the beatings she participated in contribute to his death?

4.  What was Carnel's condition when Jaimee left for work?

Four year old Carnel Chamberlain was reported missing last June.  On June 28th, 2012, it was announced that his remains were found under the house porch.  Jaimee Chamberlain's boyfriend, Anthony Bennet,  was charged in the murder.  
This was an appearance of Carnel's mother on The Nancy Grace Show, June 26th, 2012.  There were reports of prior physical abuse of Carnel.  

Date reported missing - June 21, 2012 evening - 10:12 I believe LE  were phoned - she home for approx 40 mins prior to calling LE

This appearance on Nancy Grace, via phone, June 27, 2012, aired on June 29th, the day after his remains were found.  This show was not live, so they used a break-in to report that his remains were found beneath the porch, burned.  

Date of his death is said to be 6/21 the day of his reported missing - 

Date of his discovery was officially said by press on 6/28/2012; likely early morning.  

NG show aired on 6/29 - as it was pre-recorded. The show was finalized without confirmation Carnel was found, - his status: MISSING - her Show lead line. 

*** NG producers edited in for the 6/29 air, that he had been found, using over talk. NG does not say it, she does not, it is though edited added in - he found under the porch.

Jaimee not involved within the commentary of Carnel found,  as the show was not Live. It was pre-taped at an earlier date
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Jaimee has recently been arrested on drug charges,  but Statement Analysis showed that she participated in the physical abuse of Carnel.  

What does analysis of this appearance show?  The Statement Analysis is in bold type, with emphasis added.  



Did Jaime Chamberlain know that Carnel was dead before his 

remains were found?


JAIMEE CHAMBERLAIN, CARNEL`S MOTHER (via telephone): Hello. Hi.

GRACE: Jaimee, tell me what -- when did you last see Carnel?


Here, Grace goes right for the issue.  The question is "when" which should be answered with a day and time.  

CHAMBERLAIN: I left work about 3:45  right up the street from where I live at.


Please note that she did not answer the question.  Instead, it was the leaving from work that is on her mind.  

There are two areas in which Statement Analysis highlights as the most sensitive:

1. The reason "why" something happens when the question is "what happened"?
2.  The leaving of a place. 

They are highlighted in the color blue. 

"Left" (leaving of a place) is 70% likely due to rushing, traffic, time, etc. It is 30% likely to contain highly sensitive missing information. 

when Jaimee last saw Carnel is a very sensitive question.  It is not the topic that is sensitive, it is the question, itself, that it sensitive. 

Jaimee Chamberlain did not answer the question.  


GRACE: OK, and you work as a waitress, right?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, at Isabellas, at the casino.

GRACE: OK. So you`re working as a waitress. You last see him at 3:45, and at that time, Jaimee, what was he doing?


Nancy Grace is now feeding her information instead of calling her out on her avoidance of the sensitive question.  


CHAMBERLAIN: When I left last time, he was laying in my back bedroom watching me get ready for work while he was watching cartoons. That`s the last time I seen him was when he was watching "Adventure Time"! That was the last time I seen him, when I left for work, he was in my bedroom, and everything was fine! And then I left. And then that`s why -- you know, I called him, and then that`s when I found out about everything going on.


Note the "left" is now repeated, making it highly sensitive.  

My conclusion is this:  She is withholding information about the last time she saw him. 

Next note that Carnel's body posture is noted, marking an increase in tension for the subject (Jaimee)

Note the location is also given:  "back bedroom"

"Watching" is repeated.  He was "watching me" as he was "watching cartoons" Anything repeated is sensitive.  

I cannot help but wonder if he was "watching" anything.  
Note that she adds on a small, seemingly insignificant detail:  "Adventure Time"

First, he was watching "cartoons" but now "cartoons" is changed to specific, "Adventure Time";

when language changes, it represents one of two things:

1.  Either there is a change in reality or;
2.  The subject is not working from memory

This extra detail reminds me of Casey Anthony's overabundance of details about Zanny the Nanny's hair and teeth:  Casey was not working from memory, but was being deceptive. 

Notice that the phrase "the last time" is repeated, in this one answer, three times, making "the last time" very sensitive.  Notice that it all comes in a "cluster of blues", our highest level of sensitivity.  She then uses the connecting verb, "left" also three times in one answer.  This is 'off the charts' sensitivity:  

Jaimee Chamberlain is deceptively withholding information about Carnel in this time period when she left for work.  The condition that Carnel was in, was not one that she wants to share with Nancy Grace

The last time Jaime Chamberlain saw Carnel, everything was not "fine."


GRACE: So he`s at home with your boyfriend. And you`ve known the boyfriend for about a year, getting close to a year now. Had there ever been any disputes or problems between your boyfriend, Anthony Bennett, and your little boy, Carnel?

CHAMBERLAIN: The only thing that we recently started doing was, like, Anthony started, like, spanking him and started disciplining him. And we started putting him in the -- like, we`d been putting him a chair in the corner to discipline him. That`s the only thing that recently has been going on between him and Anthony that I know Carnel is upset about.


The pronouns do not lie:  the "we" exists between the boyfriend and mother; not between Carnel and his mother.  The pronoun, "we" indicates cooperation and unity.  The change from "we" to "Anthony" to "we" shows that she participated in whatever it was that Carnel suffered from.  It was not spanking.  

GRACE: Well, OK, let me ask you this, Jaimee. What would set Anthony, the boyfriend, off? Why would he feel he had to discipline 4-year-old Carnel? What would Carnel do to make him feel he needed to be spanked?

CHAMBERLAIN: I don`t even know because even at times, I`d tell him -- I asked him, why is he disciplining him. And like, he`d tell him to go sit in the time-out chair just because he`d be crying for a reason that he doesn`t want -- like, if he doesn`t want to do something, he`d just start crying, and Anthony would just put him in the chair to, you know, put him time out because if he`s crying for no reason.


Note that not knowing is sensitive:  "I don't even know"

Note also the change of self censoring:  "I'd tell him" is changed to "I asked him"

GRACE: OK, what about spanking him? Why would he spank Carnel?

CHAMBERLAIN: That much I don`t know. I know when I noticed the bruises on his butt, like, he tried demonstrating it for me, and like, I seen him, like, put a lot of force into it. And I asked him, I was, like, Why are you spanking him that hard? I told him  you just need to tap (ph) him  I don`t know -- you know, a powerful spank, like it was to a point where I noticed there was bruises on his butt.


She denies knowing why he was spanked, even though she would "tell him" and "ask him" and the pronoun "we" tells us of their cooperation in "disciplining" Carnel; which did not leave red marks, but bruises.  Note that she did not see bruises on his butt, she only "noticed" them;  and the use of this softer language is repeated, used twice, making it sensitive to her. 

"Tried" in the past tense, means attempted and failed.  How does this it into her explanation? 

She participated in the beatings that left the 4 year old bruised.

GRACE: OK, Jaimee, Jaimee, your boyfriend was spanking the 4-year-old so hard, it left bruises on his behind?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it did.

GRACE: What, if anything, did you do about that?


Note the additional words, "if anything" revealing Nancy Grace's anger.  She likely sensed that within Jamiee's words are admission of being unified with the boyfriend in beating the child. 

CHAMBERLAIN: Well, I didn`t think of -- I really -- at first, I didn`t think of anything of it, you know, until, like, you know, after all this happened. But I just thought, you know, maybe he spanked him hard to where, like, you know, Carnel learn it.

But I know how my son is, and I know you just have to talk to him about it. You know, I tried telling Anthony that, You don`t need to speak him. Like, Carnel is able -- you`re able to talk to him and he understands right from wrong.


The question is:  "What did you do about it?"  
She begins with what she did not "think", which is repeated.  Then, she put her approval on it where "Carnel learn it"

Note the word "tried" in the past tense means failed.  

GRACE: Well, I have a concern if he would spank the boy hard enough to bruise his little booty, that`s pretty forceful, to get bruises on your rear end.

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. Yes, I recently just -- I recently noticed this about - - it was about a week ago when I noticed the bruises on his butt.


Noticing the bruising is passive language which seeks to soften, minimize and, perhaps, conceal the responsibility for bruising Carnel.  

GRACE: OK. So that`s been in the last week?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes.

GRACE: When you asked him about it, what did he say Carnel had done to deserve a spanking?

CHAMBERLAIN: He hasn`t -- he hasn`t really explained to me why. He just said that, like -- I know one of the times is because he didn`t clean his room. And he said, I keep going in there and asking him, and he`s not doing what I`m saying. So I know he spanked him because one of the times just because he wouldn`t clean his room.


He explained.  She is deceptive with hasn't "really" explained why.  They beat him because he did not clean his room. Follow her pronouns:  

GRACE: (INAUDIBLE) your 4-year-old would clean his room?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. Yes. We were training him to be a grown man. And we were -- you know, he`d clean his room. We trained him to put his toys  like, in the  We, you know, got him to where he was getting his trash in the trash can. We were pretty much making -- trying to make him do chores and stuff at 4.


The word "we" has entered her vocabulary after the bruising and beating of Carnel.  This indicates that she likely participated and/or approved of the beatings in order to make him into a "grown man"; 

Interesting choice of words.  

They were not making him into a "man" but into a "grown man"; which may tell us more about Anthony Bennett being, physically and chronologically a "man" but certainly not one who has "grown" in anyway.  

GRACE: Let me ask you about Carnel.

CHAMBERLAIN: OK.

GRACE: How long has the boyfriend been living in the home? And did that bother your son, your 4-year-old son, when he moved in?


FOLLOW THE PRONOUNS.  PRONOUNS ARE INSTINCTIVE.  PRONOUNS DO NOT LIE.  It is likely that Nancy Grace is hearing the pronouns intuitively, but without training, is missing key points of how these two acted in concert.  

CHAMBERLAIN: Well, he moved in -- we started -- we dated about seven months now, and we moved in with each other around -- about the end of February or March. And this is the only man that my son has called Stepdad. He`s the only man that -- since his father has not been around, this is the only guy that Carnel felt comfortable enough to call him Stepdad.


It not not that "he moved in" but "we", repeated, until finally she said, "we moved in with each other" showing a very strong bond between them.  They were bonded, unified and together before, during and after the beating of Carnel. 

This likely explains why his body was burnt.  

GRACE: Well, did he ever complain about Anthony spanking him or being mean to him?

CHAMBERLAIN:  he had complained to me about him being mean to him and stuff. And I just told him, I was, like -- you know, I was, like, You should just listen to what Anthony`s trying to say to you. Because I thought it was just him being -- you know, Carnel being, like, you know, a little boy trying to say, No, I don`t want to clean my room, you know? But I didn`t think of nothing like that until now.

When it came down to choosing sides, the pronouns above did not lie:  Here she admits taking the side of the monster over her 4 year old son.  


Here is another indication of deception:  she claims to quote herself saying "you should just listen to what Anthony's trying to say to you" rather than "Step Dad" used above. 


GRACE: ... clean up it`s whole room -- OK, I want to get back to Jaimee. With me is Carnel`s mom, joining me exclusively tonight. Jaimee, what is Anthony Bennett saying now?

CHAMBERLAIN: He still ain`t working with none of the police officers. He still has no contact with none of my family.


She avoided the question.  She did not say that Anthony was not speaking to her; only to her family. 


GRACE: With me right now in a primetime exclusive, his mom joining me, Jaimee Chamberlain. She`s out working, supporting the family, comes home, the little boy is gone -- by all accounts, a peaceful, a sweet little boy, never gave anybody a day`s trouble. He`s gone, seemingly vanishing into thin air.

Jaimee Chamberlain, when you walked in the door that evening from work at Isabel`s  restaurant, what was Anthony Bennett, your boyfriend, doing? When you walked in the door, where was he?

CHAMBERLAIN: He was walking to me. As soon as I opened the door, he was, like, walking out to me.


The "walking" is repeated; as is "to me"

The door opening is often found in the language of those who have been sexually abused in childhood, or those who may be abusing a child.  It would be vital to learn if Jaimee Chamberlain was sexually abused as a child.  This would explain her callousness to his plight, and her joining in with Bennett on the beating; as seen in the use of the pronoun, "we" afterwards. 

GRACE: And what did he say?

CHAMBERLAIN: He pretty much told me that he`s gone. And like, I just didn`t believe him. And that`s all I could think about is, like, I need to look everywhere first. I need to look -- I mean, I turned my house upside down looking for him.

And then there`s the next-door neighbors, where there`s a bunch of kids next door, and like, usually, when we`re outside, they`re, like, Come on, Carnel, come next door. And that was the second place I went to go look. And once they said they didn`t see my son, that`s when I knew I had to call the cops because I don`t know where he could have been!


1.  "Pretty much" tells us that he told her other things, too.  "He's gone" may indicate that he was still breathing (not watching TV) when she left for work.  
2.  She didn't believe him until she looked everywhere "first"
3.  Please keep in mind who's house it is, at this particular time.  Here, it is "my house."  Let us see if she continues to take ownership of the house:  



GRACE: When you asked the live-in, Where is Carnel, what was his explanation as to the last time he saw him?

CHAMBERLAIN: He said he came up missing. That`s all he told me what happened. His story just doesn`t make sense, and he just came up missing.

GRACE: Well, what do you mean came up missing? Did he leave the boy outside while he was inside?



CHAMBERLAIN: He said that he was cleaning -- he said he was the house while Carnel was playing outside. And then he was telling everybody that he left the front door open, the sliding glass door open and a couple windows open. And it`s, like, Well, how come -- couldn`t you just hear him just take off, if that`s what happened? He said he didn`t hear nothing, said he didn`t see nothing.

GRACE: OK. Was the house clean when you came in? Did it look like he had really cleaned the house?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it was, until I -- later on that night, I noticed that there was something up in my bathroom.

GRACE: What?

CHAMBERLAIN: That my bathroom floor was wet, and that`s all I noticed that was messed up was in my bathroom.

GRACE: The bathroom floor was wet?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. And it was wet to the point where my carpet even got wet. And he said that he drew me a bath before I got home, and he said -- he said -- I don`t know what he was doing. And then he said he just wasn`t paying attention and the bath water overflowed. And that`s why (INAUDIBLE) you`re not paying attention to my son! You`re not paying attention to this water that you`re supposed to be drawing me a bath for, then what are you doing? It just doesn`t make sense.

GRACE: Has he taken a lie detector?

CHAMBERLAIN: No, he hasn`t. And then the next day, his dad helped him get a lawyer.


GRACE: With me tonight is his mother, who was at work that night, comes home, the baby is gone. To Jaimee Chamberlain, Carnel`s mom. Did your boyfriend, Anthony Bennett, have a job?

CHAMBERLAIN: No, he didn`t.

GRACE: Why?

CHAMBERLAIN: Because he has two felonies on his record and nobody around us could help him out.

GRACE: What kind of felonies?

CHAMBERLAIN: I want to say felonious assault and (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: Ms. Chamberlain, were you concerned about leaving your child with him? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He said he loved me. And the only reason why I started trusting Anthony is because my brother introduced us and, you know, I was thinking because, you know, I`m my brother`s little sister that he wouldn`t send me somebody like that. I trusted him with everything, with my son. 

GRACE: Out to Ellie Jostad, our chief editorial producer. Ellie, what else do we know. 

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well Nancy, one of the problems here is establishing a timeline. Police are telling us that one of the key components, the reason why the police are saying the boyfriend isn`t cooperating, is the fact that he won`t answer really simple questions like what time was it that you last saw Carnel playing outside. They say he won`t answer that. And we have a big window of time here from 3:45, when mom leaves for work and 9:30 when she gets home. 

There were some neighbors saying they think they saw him playing in the yard that afternoon, but some other workers working -- construction workers working on a neighbor`s house saying they saw him Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but they didn`t see him at all on Thursday, the day that he went missing. 

GRACE: Out to the line. Teresa in Oklahoma. Hi Teresa, what is your question? 

TERESA, CALLER, OKLAHOMA: He didn`t pay any attention about the boy, he didn`t bother to go look for him before she got off from work or anything? 

GRACE: Let`s find out. What do we know? I want to go to Frank Cloutier here, spokesman joining us tonight, speaking for the family. Frank, did he at least say he had looked for the boy? 

FRANK CLOUTIER, SPOKESMAN, CHAMBERLAIN FAMILY: No. At no time did he say he looked for the child. 

GRACE: OK. Frank, what is his story? When Jamie gets home, he just says the boy went missing, he doesn`t know when he last saw him, nothing? 

CLOUTIER: That`s basically where we are at. 

GRACE: Jamie, what can you tell us again about the bathroom?

CHAMBERLAIN: Because when I went in there and I first noticed it because I didn`t notice it until all the police were out looking and told me he`s there. And I was hoping that they would give me some information or in case he came home. And I was, you know, as soon as everybody was out looking for him, the first instance in my head was well, maybe I should go look in the house to see what was out of the ordinary. 


Note that the question was "what can you tell me?" which is answered with the sensitive need to explain "why", twice, making this highly sensitive.  Note that she tells us what she did not notice (in the negative)

Note again the "first instance" indicating other thoughts were involved.  

And then, that`s when I walked in the bathroom and my feet started sinking in like it was wet and I noticed that the floor in my bathroom was wet and I have little candles that sit beside my bathtub and those were in the water. So, as soon as I seen that, you know, I had to let the FBI and everybody know what I noticed so they could see everything. 

GRACE: When you asked him what had happened in the bathroom, what did he say? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He said he was drawing me a bath for when I got out of work. And he said that he wasn`t pay attention and al of a sudden, it overflowed. 

GRACE: When you got home, was there water in the bathtub? 

CHAMBERLAIN: There was, but you would think that if it was over flown, it would be over the top, and you would think all the water was drained out. The water was like - half way I there, more halfway in there than anything. 


"You" might think it, but she did not.  

GRACE: Did you notice anything else out of place in the home? Jamie, did you notice anything else out of the place in the home? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. And I just -- when everything happened, I like, you know, because I`m looking in the room, and I was looking around to see if anything was, you know, anything out of the ordinary after I seen the carpet. And as I was looking around on the floor to see what all got wet, I noticed his two, they`re brown stains on my carpet and I noticed that only the stains were wet and around the carpet was dry and my first instinct was like, OK, I better go get a paper towel to see what color came out of it. And then when I see it, it came out was brown and then, you know, my first instinct was blood so I stuck my hand in it and my hand was sticky and then when I smelled my hand, it smelled like cleaning products. 


When someone tells us their "first" instinct or "first" thought, it means that there were others.  Here, we find the need to explain herself, in the sensitive, "because" and she was able to discern between blood and cleaning supplies.  Note the change to present tense language as indicative of story telling.  


Carnel did not die gently.  

GRACE: So, do you believe someone -- is your bathroom carpeted? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it is. 

GRACE: So, you think someone cleaned the bathroom carpet? 

CHAMBERLAIN: I don`t know. I just know what I seen and I let the FBI take it from there. 

GRACE: This is what I don`t understand, Jamie, so he says the boy`s missing, but he thought to draw you a bath while the little boy`s missing? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. That`s why it doesn`t make sense. 


GRACE: Did he normally clean the house, Jamie Chamberlain? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, he did. 


GRACE: Jaimee Chamberlain, when did he say the last time it, that he saw the boy, Jaimee? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He said 9:30? 


note that she reports what he said and not simply the time.  This is communicative language. 

GRACE: At night? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. 9:30 at night. 

GRACE: And what does he say, he was doing? What is Carnel doing at 9:30 at night? He should have been in bed asleep, but what did he say he was doing? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He said, he was out playing in the in the pool that on our porch in our backyard. 


Note the pronoun "our" used twice.  Note that previously, she attempted to portray Bennett as saying nothing:  

GRACE: Well, Cloutier. This is new. This is completely new. OK. I thought he didn`t say anything. Now, I`m understanding, he says the boy was outside in the pool at 9:30 at night. 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. He said he was outside playing in the pool and he was inside cleaning the house. 

GRACE: At 9:30 at night? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. 

GRACE: Why wasn`t the little boy in bed, he`s 4 years old. 

CHAMBERLAIN: Nancy, before I left for work, I told him to put my son to bed at 9:00. 

GRACE: Everybody, I want to give you the tip line, 989-775-4700. 

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GRACE: You know, back to Jaimee Chamberlain, this is Carnel`s mother. And I want to report to everyone, she has taken and passed with flying colors, two separate polygraph tests, she was the only one working to support the three of them. She`s at work at her job at Isabel`s restaurant there at the casino, gets home 9:30, the boyfriend, the live in says, little boy is gone and he was distracted to cleaning the house. 

Now, I`m learning that he says the little boy was outside swimming in the backyard pool at 9:30 at night and the boyfriend is distracted cleaning the house. I also learn from Jaimee, tonight is the first we`re learning about this, the carpet in the bathroom was completely soaked. There was a brown stain and it smelled like cleaning fluid. 

Jaimee, does your bathroom tub have one of those drain things right below the hot and cold water controls. 

CHAMBERLAIN: It`s just a drain. We have in our back bedroom, we have a Jacuzzi. So I honestly don`t think it had a draining thing. I know where the Jacuzzi is, it has a little sitting point and then it has the switch on the jets and to control the jets and that`s it. 


Note the pronoun, "we"

GRACE: Ok. Wait a minute. Wait. Is the bathtub also a Jacuzzi? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes it is. 

GRACE: All right, so there`s not one of those little holes, kind of a drain right there underneath the hot and cold water control? 

CHAMBERLAIN: No. No, there is not. 


GRACE: You know, to Jaimee Chamberlain, this is Carnel`s mom, the description of him wearing the dark blue angry bird t-shirt, the blue short with the green trim is that what you observed him wearing when you went to work? 

CHAMBERLAIN: No, it wasn`t. 

GRACE: What was he wearing then? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He was wearing dark -- dark green shorts with a light green trim and then the shirt, wasn`t even wearing a shirt when I left. He was just wearing shorts but as the cops were looking through my house and they told me to go through stuff, I actually found the wet pair of shorts that I see him wearing when I left for work. 


Another cluster of blues; another indication that there is critically missing information from her story and it is related directly to the time period when she left for work.  She is withholding information.  

GRACE: You found him -- you found the green shorts? 

CHAMBERLAIN: That he was wearing before I left for work and they were wet. 

GRACE: So the shorts he was wearing when you went to work, were they sopping wet, like they had been underwater? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, they were like in between damp -- it was in between damp to wet, it was in between that. 

GRACE: Where did you find them? Where were they? 

CHAMBERLAIN: They were in our laundry room. 

GRACE: Were they wet with water or wet with urine like he had wet his pants? 

CHAMBERLAIN: They were wet like water. 

GRACE: Why were they wet -- why were they wet? 

CHAMBERLAIN: My first instinct was to think that them were the shorts he was wearing when he was playing outside. As soon as Anthony saw -- he made no sense to me, that`s when, even me, I thought he is probably not even wearing the clothes he said he was wearing. So -- 

GRACE: Did you give police those shorts? 

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. I gave them every piece of article I thought he was wearing. Yes. 

GRACE: Jaimee, is the water in your pool chlorinated? 

CHAMBERLAIN: No, it`s not. 

GRACE: OK. So, it would be the same as the water in your bathtub, correct? 


Nancy Grace recognized that something was very wrong with the swimming pool story.  Did they drown Carnel?  Was he beaten so badly they tried to clean him up?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. 

GRACE: What was your boyfriend`s explanation as to why your little boy`s pants were soaking wet? 

CHAMBERLAIN: He didn`t say why. He just said he changed him. 


Nancy Grace knows that it is not credible. 


Analysis conclusion:  


Jaimee Chamberlain deceptively withheld information that is

 specifically related to the time period in Carnel's life just prior

 to her leaving for work.  That she has a need to be deceptive

itself, suggests involvement in the beating of Carnel, who was 

a victim of such violence that there was a very messy clean up,

 and his remains needed to be burned so that evidence of what 

was done to him was covered up. 


There is a very strong bond between her and Anthony Bennett

 as seen in the pronoun, "we."


Even in describing the "discipline" that left bruises on Carnel, 

the mother continues to use the pronoun, "we" shwoig the

 interaction, unity, and cooperation between them. 

There is, in my opinion, strong linguistic indication that Jaimee

 Carnel was not only physically abusive to Carnel, but that she

 has need to lie about what happened to him just prior to her

 leaving for work.  She likely passed a polygraph when asked if 

she knew where he was, while missing, because she did not 

know where Bennett had disposed of Carnel's remains. 

She would not pass a polygraph if asked specific questions 

about beating him, and about her own activities and 

knowledge over what befell Carnell in the hour before she 

left for work. 


 Anthony Bennett is not the only monster that

haunted the young life of Carnel.  Perhaps she sought drugs

to quiet her screaming conscience.  



67 comments:

Anonymous said...

She's in jail now. It doesn't matter. Her thinking wouldn't be logical no matter what given she, herself, was raised in a home of substance abuse.

She simply did not posess life skills beyond peddling wares.

Anonymous said...

Does she sound like matt damon with the "ya knows" and "like" and messed up talks? WOW..Public school system working for the kids here......... yes I have grammar issues..but like, ya know, i mean, kinda...:)

Anonymous said...

I haven't kept up with this case but it is weird she says....."And then I left. And then that`s why -- you know, I called him, and then that`s when I found out about everything going on."
I am confused as to why she says...you know I called him....weird unless he is raised in a tent, etc....or both are truckers..........

Jen said...

What a pitiful excuse for a human being..why would she take Carnel from the safety of her mothers home and bring him into such a nightmare? If she wanted to be carefree and do drugs with her loser boyfriend then why saddle herself with a child to care for? She must have taken some sick pleasure in 'disciplining' this poor boy and beating him into a 'grown man'...this poor innocent boy had no peace, even within the walls of his own home. It's an outrage that Jamie Chamberlain hasn't been charged with murder right along with her degenerate live-in, after all she provided him access to Carnel that he would never have otherwise had, and I agree she likely participated in the abuse which ultimately killed him.

ecossie possie said...

Anon first poster....? What do you mean little skill except peddle her wares?

Indian Culture produce probably the most exquiste silversmith crafting skills in America.There blankets an Tapestrys carpets are sought after collecters items.Considered high end art.An dont get started on there work with Beads used to make jewlery clothing .

Or are you immplying thee only skills an wares she had was to sell her body?

I dont know as much of this case as Id like to but no where have I read or heard she sold her body as in prostituted herself.

In fact as part of some Indian Tribe that owned land property an casino shares was entitled to regular cash payouts .Like stock holders receive.

I dont think lack of cash was her problem .In fact could be the opposite to much cash can attract the wrong type of parisites into your life. m o o.

ecossie possie said...

Re Above Im not saying she wasnt culpable in her Sons Death I think she was at the very least culpable

An more than likely has intimite knowlage of how it occoured.
Im just saying Ive seen no evidence of prostitution by the mother

An American Inians produce woderfull wares an art to sell

There ancient artifacts are to them priceless
Yet ruthless grave theifes tomb robbers hunt for Idian Graves to plunder artifacts sold on the black market.

Anonymous said...

I think Anon was referring to J.C.'s recent arrest for selling drugs. He/she said "peddling wares" not peddling HER wares.
-Shayna

Anonymous said...

ecossiepossie may be better at hacking than reading and teaching about North American native cultures. Lol! Its a legion, not a tribe.

Anonymous said...

Jaimee Chamberlain is a murderer; coconspirator and participant in her son's murder. She brought this helpless child into her home where she had an evil and violent boyfriend, ONLY because it meant she would get a larger monthly check from the casinos and tourist revenues; placed this child entirely at the mercy and hands of her sociopathic boyfriend, AND hers', and the two of them beat and battered this precious little boy to his death.

It is almost irrelevant which one gave little Carneal the final blow, beat, chocked, drowned and burned his little body, although Bennett is more likely the one who burned his body so his injuries wouldn't be detected if he were ever found. Had Jaimee not been a part of Carneals' brutal death she would have put Anthony Bennett out after the first time he hit or even threatened to hit her child or abuse him in any other way. SHE allowed AND took her own part in it.

Anyone who thinks she stood idly by watching and taking no part beating little Carneal into "becoming a man", is dead wrong. These two were a stoned and drunk out of their minds sick combination. Only God knows what else they did to little Carneal in their attempts to "make a man out of him."

My only question would be, just as a matter of curiosity, which one of them abused Carneal first and last? This was a sick game they both enjoyed as they tortured this helpless baby, ignored his cries and screams, and watched him die.

Ecossie, no offense meant, but I don't think you know as much about handmade indian artifacs as you think you do. Their crafts were never considered of much value in this country, nor was there ever a huge market for their crafts.

It's greatest value was way back decades ago when they traded their handmade beads, rugs, warm animal coats, blankets and animal skins for food and other goods, even an occasional cow or dog, from the US Military, which is all they had to give for these goods; who then gave these artifacs to their superiors, wives and girlfriends. The military was forbidden by Army Regulations to trade spirits (alcohol) to them as the US Military had deemed that no indian could control his liquor.

In more recent years the indians were paid minimal wages for these handcrafted items which they sold cheaply to merchants who ran little junk shops along the highways and at truck stops. They lived very poorly until they were finally allowed to live tax free, own their own land and claim the income from their casinos, but prior to that the indians always lived very poorly and many still do, being unable to manage their affairs due to their use of alcohol and drugs.

Even now their artifacs aren't really worth as much as you may think. Some of their handmade jewelery and moccasins are back in vogue but that too really isn't of great value. Stop along the highways at the little shanties on a drive down south and you'll see what I mean.

Anonymous said...

Jen- I agree. Poor Carnel, he breaks my heart and I can barely read about him much less think of his agony. Jamie knew the condition he was in when she left. She knew a LOT more than she says. She deals drugd and she was probably high most of the time. Poor sweet Carnel.

sidewalk super said...

She comes across as uninvolved, flat, emotionless, all of which I would think is her heavy drug use (which also bonded her to fellow murderer bennett) but leaves her personhood destroyed. Unfit to be in close proximity to any child, much less responsible for protecting that child from predators.
She is the predator.

Trigger said...

There were pictures of Carnel posted where his torso bruises could be easily seen.

The bruising looked to be severe.

Jaimee never mentions any of that in her interview with NG. She only admits to bruising on his behind.

This makes me wonder what Carnel's backside, that isn't shown in the pics, looked like. Most likely what was not seen was worse than what we could see.

Only a monster could walk out a door and not take her battered son to a doctor, the police, or safety with that kind of bruising visible on his little body.

Jaimee is just as guilty as Anthonly because, she did nothing to protect him.

shmi said...

After reading just a little, I wonder if Anthony Bennet told police that she participated in the beating that led to his death? He being in jail would likely be offered some concession if he tells what happened. Would he keep her part out of it? He seems like the kind of person who would take her down if she was involved.

shmi said...

Also, what kind of Jacuzzi does not have a drain? Maybe she said that because he drowned in the pool, after a severe beating.

john said...

Great analysis Peter,I wish nancy grace though would stop asking compound questions its so annoying.

john said...

AND we STARTED putting him in the -- like, we`d been putting him a chair in the corner to discipline him. THATS THE ONLY THING that recently has been going on between him and Anthony that I know Carnel is upset about.

AND at the begining of a sentence may suggest missing imformation.

STARTED but not finished, also the broken sentence could suggest something else happened for her not to finish what was about to happen.

THATS THE ONLY THING that recently has been going on.

Why say that unless there were other things going on that she doesnt want to tell.

Jazzie said...

"Meanwhile Carnel’s mother, Jaimee Leona Louise Chamberlain, 21, at one point told a probation official to take Carnel out of her custody because she did not want him, according to an abuse-neglect petition filed in Isabella County Trial Court in February 2008.

Trial Judge William Ervin transferred the case to Saginaw Chippewa Tribal Court in April 2008 after it was determined that Carnel’s parents are both Native American.

Records in Tribal Court are not public information.

Tribal Spokesman Frank Cloutier said Monday that Jaimee Chamberlain was successful in regaining custody of Carnel in the Tribal system and completed what was required to get her child back, adding that her progress says something about her and her love for the child.

Jaimee said Monday that she was young when Carnel was born and made mistakes, which she has learned from."

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120625/NEWS01/120629810/boyfriend-remains-person-of-interest-in-carnel-disappearance#full_story

Jazzie said...

"Jaimee Leona Louise Chamberlain, 21, at one point told a probation official to take Carnel out of her custody because she did not want him"

She did not want Carnel.

"Jaimee Chamberlain was successful in regaining custody of Carnel in the Tribal system and completed what was required to get her child back"

The Tribal system allowed Jaimee to continue to her "not want him".

"Jaimee said Monday that she was young when Carnel was born and made mistakes, which she has learned from."

She learned only from her mistakes to find someone like Anthony Bennett to get rid of Carnel.

Jazzie said...

GRACE: When you asked the live-in, Where is Carnel, what was his explanation as to the last time he saw him?

CHAMBERLAIN: He said he came up missing. That`s all he told me what happened. His story just doesn't make sense, and he just came up missing.

"came up missing"

when animals, fish or people die in water, the majority of the time, they rise (or come up) to the surface.

"he just came up missing"

Perhaps Carnel just came up to the surface of the water missing (dead).

Jazzie said...

And his mother Jaimee Chamberlain knows
because she was there.

Anonymous said...

God knows exactly what happened to this precious child. Yes, his killers will pay.

sidewalk super said...

And exactly where was Carnel's extended family, his tribe, his grandparents, uncles, etc. while his blood mother and her brute roommate were enjoying killing him slowly?

Vita said...

Jaimee's response to NG, the last time she saw Carnel, Jaimee what was he doing? She does not tell Grace what he was doing, she tells Grace what she did. She does not offer her last words exchanged with Carnel. Carnel she offers action verbs, laying and watching, he becomes an object. He is moved, she does not say he moved himself room to room.

Her words " I left" repeated. How many times did she leave and come back ? on 6/21. Did she go to the Soaring Eagle for reasons other than work, that day, to return to the house? The rooms change. The times of her left are not the same.

GRACE: OK. So you`re working as a waitress. You last see him at 3:45, and at that time, Jaimee, what was he doing?

JC: When I left last time, he was laying in my back bedroom

That`s the last time I seen him was when he was watching "Adventure Time"!

That was the last time I seen him,
when I left for work, he was in my bedroom

And then I left.
And then that`s why
you know, I called him,
and then that`s when I found out about everything going on
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When I left the last time, this is one who has left and returned. It is memory of when I left the last time. Not necessarily the last time left. As she says it herself.

Carnel, when I left the last time he was laying in my back bedroom.

I, as in myself, checked the programing for Adventure time, which is Cartoon Network. The Thursday schedule, Michigan, Eastern time. Times the show airs: 8:30a, 9:00a, 3:30p, 4:00p, 4:30p, 7pm.

That`s the last time I seen him was when he was watching "Adventure Time"!

Was this in the morning? when I left the last time, the last time I seen him, he was laying in my back bedroom, watching Adventure time.

She has left out information of the events that day. It is noted by her repeat of I left. Did she go up to the Soaring Eagle, not for her scheduled work time, for other reasons, she to come back. She needed something? retrieved it and came back to the house? It being a mile away. Work being a place. No longer, when I left the last time, it is now affirming, using " THAT" was the last time I seen him. Never does she say, he was fine, no.

When I left for work. How many times did she leave for the Soaring Eagle to return home? When I left for work, he was in my bedroom. He no longer laying in my back bedroom, he was in my bedroom. And THEN I left. She leaves again, she never says I returned, she though left more than once.
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And then I left. And then that`s why -- you know, I called him, and then that`s when I found out about everything going on.

" AND THEN" the THEN replaces an act/event, the THEN that did happen. It is the WHY she called Bennett.

Carnel was not fine, when she left her final time for her scheduled work, she is telling us this. She offers this in statements throughout the interview.

She says she left about 3:45 for her scheduled work. The contractors working on the house,
next property over, detected an odor of burning flesh, between 5-6PM. The window is small.

Vita said...

Carnel the last time she seen him. His clothing, his clothing reported last seen in.

Missing and Exploited, his information, Carnel was last known
to be wearing a black t-shirt with an "Angry Bird" logo and blue shorts with green trim. His hair may be cut short.

The photo of Carnel, we have all seen, his head shaved, he shirtless, wearing dark blue shorts. Upon his ribs, lower body, faded bruising, yellowed. His smile appears forced. This photo was taken in June 2012. The complaint affidavit, interview of JC, she informed FBI, the accounts of abuse Carnel suffered. Carnel was in her home, from the last week of May, until the day he was reported missing, June 21, 2012. 21 plus days. The testimony of the alleged abuse, was the entire time he was with his mother. Are her statements to FBI chronological? if they are, it fits, her said to NG.

1.She found her son in a bedroom with a bruised and swollen face and a cut on the inside of his lip, the affidavit said.

2.A few days later, she told the agent, she spotted a 6- to 8-inch bruise on the boy's ribcage and said Bennett had told her he backhanded Carnel. The boy told his mother Bennett had punched him, the affidavit said.

3. Another assault allegedly took place a few days later, Chamberlain told the agent, when she saw Bennett pick up Carnel by his neck, drop him and drag him by his right foot to his bedroom, bruising the child's buttocks.

Each assault to escalate, to continue, a few days later, this the month of June. The photo of Carnel, head shaved, dark blue shorts, shirtless. His bruising yellowed, yet noticed. This photo then was after the 2nd allegation, his bruising fading. His head shaved after the physical assault upon his torso. This photo was it taken on 6/20? 6/21? as Jaimee stated to NG.

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. Yes, I recently just -- I recently noticed this about - - it was about a week ago when I noticed the bruises on his butt.

Online I found a post made by Jaimee's brother, he posted on 4/27 early AM hours, his family had been contacted by Nancy Grace.
NG then contacted the family on or before 6/26.

6/27 Weds she interviewed by Grace? 6/28 Thursday, Carnel by press officially found 6/28. Show aired prerecorded on 6/29.
If you take Jaimee's word one week prior, Carnel's bruises she noticed, dates would be June 20th, June 21st.

Carnel's shorts, are sensitive to Jaimee. I think the photo of Carnel shirtless in the dark blue shorts, was his last day on this earth alive. The blue shorts to be on him, when he was burned.

GRACE: You know, to Jaimee Chamberlain, this is Carnel`s mom, the description of him wearing the dark blue angry bird t-shirt, the blue short with the green
trim is that what you observed him wearing when you went to work?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, it wasn`t.

GRACE: What was he wearing then?
CHAMBERLAIN: He was wearing dark -- dark green shorts with a light green trim and then the shirt, wasn`t even wearing a shirt when I left. He was just wearing shorts
but as the cops were looking through my house and they told me to go through stuff, I actually found the wet pair of shorts that I see him wearing when I left for work.

Shock- GRACE: You found him -- you found the green shorts?
CHAMBERLAIN: That he was wearing before I left for work and they were wet.

-twice JC says of the shorts, they were wet, before she went to work. "I actually found the wet pair of shorts that I see him wearing when I left for work"

"before I left for work and they were wet"

will continue, next post

Mindy said...

Where and who is Carnel's father? I think Carnel's mother took him back into her custody so she would get more tribal money.

Mindy

Vita said...

Shorts, Water, MY Bathroom, Jacuzzi - Back Room

GRACE: What was he wearing then?
CHAMBERLAIN: He was wearing dark -- dark green shorts with a light green trim and then the shirt, wasn`t even wearing a shirt when I left. He was just wearing shorts but as the cops were looking through my house and they told me to go through stuff, I actually found the wet pair of shorts that I see him wearing when I left for work.

Shock- GRACE: You found him -- you found the green shorts?

CHAMBERLAIN: That he was wearing before I left for work and they were wet.

GRACE: So the shorts he was wearing when you went to work, were they sopping wet, like they had been underwater?

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, they were like in between damp -- it was in between damp to wet, it was in between that.
GRACE: Where did you find them? Where were they?

CHAMBERLAIN: They were in *our laundry room.
GRACE: Were they wet with water or wet with urine like he had wet his pants?

CHAMBERLAIN: They were wet like water.

GRACE: Why were they wet -- why were they wet?

CHAMBERLAIN: My first instinct was to think that them were the shorts he was wearing when he was playing outside. As soon as Anthony saw
-- he made no sense to me, that`s when, even me, I thought he is probably not even wearing the clothes he said he was wearing. So --
GRACE: Did you give police those shorts?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. I gave them every piece of article I thought he was wearing. Yes.
GRACE: Jaimee, is the water in your pool chlorinated?
CHAMBERLAIN: No, it`s not.
GRACE: OK. So, it would be the same as the water in your bathtub, correct?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes.

There are two pairs of shorts or someone is lying. The color of the shorts being speculative. The Tribal press release of Carnel's missing is he was wearing either BLUE or Green shorts.

Jamiee corrects Grace the green shorts he was wearing she found. Missing and Exploited, on Carnel's description last seen he was wearing Blue shorts. She affirms without a pronoun, wasn't even wearing a shirt when I left. The blue shorts, Carnel is wearing in the photo, were they ever recovered? found? or he was wearing them?

Carnel's photo:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/crankycrankerson/Carnel%2520Chamberlain%2520%2520-MI-/Adjusted-to-show-bruising.jpg

Vita said...

"My bathroom".

When I left the last time, he was laying in my back bedroom. What's in the back bedroom? The Jacuzzi. He was in her bedroom, not the back bedroom, when she left for work? The shorts were wet when she left. Not that Carnel was wet, the shorts were wet. She uses in other parts of this interview,
" my bathroom" two different rooms.

GRACE: Jaimee, does your bathroom tub have one of those drain things right below the hot and cold water controls.
CHAMBERLAIN: It`s just a drain. We have in our back bedroom, we have a Jacuzzi. So I honestly don`t think it had a draining thing.

GRACE: What was your boyfriend`s explanation as to why your little boy`s pants were soaking wet?

CHAMBERLAIN: He didn`t say why. He just said he changed him.
GRACE: OK. Was the house clean when you came in? Did it look like he had really cleaned the house?
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, it was, until I -- later on that night, I noticed that there was something up in my bathroom.
GRACE: What?
CHAMBERLAIN: That my bathroom floor was wet, and that`s all I noticed that was messed up was in my bathroom.
CHAMBERLAIN: Yes. And it was wet to the point where my carpet even got wet. And he said that he drew me a bath before I got home, and he said, he said, I don`t know what he was doing. And then he said he just wasn`t paying attention and the bath water overflowed.

And that`s why (INAUDIBLE) you`re not paying attention to my son! You`re not paying attention to this water that you`re supposed to be drawing me a bath for,
then what are you doing? It just doesn`t make sense.

She adds her recall of what she said to him when?

"You're not paying attention to " THIS" water that you're supposed to be drawing me a bath for * this earlier that day? before I got home.( WHEN I left the last time he was laying in the back bedroom)
" This water" she then was present, to this water overflow - that you're supposed to be drawing me a bath for. She was home, when this water was over filling the tub.

Jaimee her intent, the need to inform all of " my bathroom mystery finds". Carnel who? Her bathroom, not Bennett, but her my bathroom is the victim, or is her bathroom tub the Perp? she was present This water. The bathroom, where Carnel was tortured, his shorts wet when she left for work.

" When everything happened" present, she was present.

CHAMBERLAIN: Yes, I did. And I just -- when everything happened, I like, you know, because I`m looking in the room, and I was looking around to see if anything was, you know, anything out of the ordinary after I seen the carpet. And as I was looking around on the floor to see what all got wet, I noticed his two, they`re brown stains on my carpet and I noticed that only the stains were wet and around the carpet was dry and my first instinct was like, OK, I better go get a paper towel to see what color came out of it. And then when I see it, it came out was brown and then, you know, my first instinct was blood so I stuck my hand in it and my hand was sticky and then when I smelled my hand, it smelled like cleaning products.
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Go back to her statement: And then that`s why -- you know, I called him, and then that`s when I found out about everything going on. She called Anthony before 9:30PM, I believe she called him shortly after she left 3:45pm.

The contractors to smell the odor, coming from the chimney of JC's house bet 5-6pm. She is the brains of this operation, she the one in charge, did she call to instruct AB? get rid of him, I don't care how you do it, just do it!

The Tribal Police, Jaimee arrived home at 9:30, reported Carnel missing 10:12 PM. 45 mins, she did not do her IN House investigation until after LE arrived and were out searching for Carnel. She did not find the shorts in those 45 mins nope. AB supposedly rumored high tailed and hid in the woods.

LE arrived at 10:30PM.

Timeline: http://www.sagchip.org/publicrelations/images/2012/CarnelChamberlainTimeLine.pdf

Vita said...

Mindy, Carnel's bio Dad is in jail.

Vita said...

On the Petition site, Change.org. Open letter written by Tommy Chamberlain, Carnel's Uncle. JC's brother. Petitioning the arrest of Jaimee Chamberlain, failure to protect and failing to inform authorities Carnel was being abused by Anthony Bennett.
--6 months ago - Written by Tommy ( Jaimee's brother)

this is so sad. the week before carnel died he shaved carnels head. jamiee is my sister were native american and white. alot people dont look into the reason on why she got a job. the house hold made 7 to 8 thosand dollars a month, without no job. so why not stay home and live life with your family? why get a small time job out the blue. plus my mom took care of carnel. carnel died only a month in my sister care.

he set my nephew up and got him really for his demise. and its also funny carnel died in june. that is when our casino gives out the kids check. people should ask what happen to that money? you can get loans for 10grand and percap evry two weeks is 4 grand with anthony and jamiee and my nephew made 3 grand. so alot of money to just say i want a job time . jamiee has a blank stare in her eyes there is no brain in her head. jamiee and anthony both were just babysitters. my mom is the one who took care of him. so understand carnel did not suffer his whole just about three weeks.

he whole time we was looking for carnel she was high on drugs. and i dont think jaimee can read. and my sister doesnt care about the lost of her son. she cried for a second and then it was on with her life. jamiee never took care of carnel. the only reason jamiee had carnel was because she and our mom got into a fight and she took him back. that was her way to hurt my mom.

we were in the same house with him.

i went looking and my little girl was there and we had no clue that anthony was a killer. jamiee did not ask him anything. it was almost like she knew deep down. and i can never love my sister. she is dead to me like carnell. why dont you go see her and talk to her. she is mad right now because my mom want to burn that house down. she is ready to move back into the home were her son was murder. she will sleep in that devil house with no care at all. jamiee lost her soul and what it is to be a human along time ago. she was also mad when my mom tossed anthony devil pitcure to the ground. i seen more anger for that piture that anthony made then i did for her own son.

that lets me know that anthony set this up before hand. because I found hair that night. he was like no , no, no, it cant be carnels I shaved his head. it was almost like he was proud or somthing like he knew.

I mean we found picture he made of demons and skulls very sick! hung up next to my dad who also died in that house. I'm still sick that my sister got mad when my mom tossed to the ground. she said it the point! like don't come in my house and disrespect my stuff. I'm like jamiee this kid killed your son and worried about his pictures he made?

at the moment anthony is being charged with only carrys a term of five years or a 200 thousand dollar fine. i believe it will change . i think this is just to keep him in there for now.

i feel this was a plan murder. from the fact jaimee just got a job and was very strange with percap alone... my nephew ,anthony and jaimee made about 7 grand a month without a job.

plus carnel had a shaved head and never liked his hair to be touched. so sick! this kid was sitting on the porch and no one thought anything of it until this. he did not care even was sleeping in the house with all them cops around.

weeks before hand he killed a cat in the bathroom. someone gave a statement to police that was also staying there who seen it. and I also seen with my own eyes dead animals in a fire pit at the house of where carnel came up missing at. I have heard two storys that day about who was passing by.

Rest In Peace Carnel.

http://www.change.org/petitions/michael-j-cecchini-police-chief-we-demand-the-arrest-of-jaimee-chamberlain

JerseyJane said...

A week before Carnel's death(disappearance)a cat was killed in that bathtub.. It worked then for Bennett, practice was the cat..
Soooo likely finishing touches were done in that tub on Carnel...
Ahhhhh, the witness to the cat killing probably can describe probably what Carnel went through.
Hmmmm, brother said grandma had him ALL but the 3 weeks of abuse and death..so Jaimee gained him back BUT Carnel was raised by grandma, even with her gaining him back, she didn't raise him. Carnel was nothing to her, she probably was jealous of her own son and attention he got...
Notice how Jaimee blames her brother on NancyGrace! A liar throws blame and points in a different direction. Boy, did she try to make herself so innocent and naive! What a joke!!! Jaimee knows her brother sees thru her lies, soo naturally he is the first she attacks..
I imagine the family were shell- shocked in those 3
weeks, Im sure Jaimee made it a game to not let granny and bro see Carnel...

Jazzie said...

For those wanting to know who Carnel's father is:

"Carnel’s biological father, Byron Keith Francis, 21, of Mt. Pleasant was named in the abuse-neglect petition and took a paternity test which showed he was a 99.9940 percent match to the boy.

Francis, who is serving a four- to 10-year term in the Bellamy Creek Correctional Facility for a felonious assault conviction, has not been part of Carnel’s life, Cloutier said.

Francis was charged with assault with intent to commit great bodily harm less than murder in August 2011 and was sentenced Sept. 20, 2011, according to Michigan Department of Corrections records."

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120625/NEWS01/120629810/boyfriend-remains-person-of-interest-in-carnel-disappearance#full_story

JerseyJane said...

Here's a good question..
I wonder when Jaimee started that job? And how many times did Bennett watch Carnel during that 3 week time? Just curious, if Bennett killed a cat a week before as Jaimee worked, how in the world, does she explain leaving her kid with this freak? Sure she knew. Brother heard of person living there knew, can't imagine Jaimee didn't...

JerseyJane said...

Also Jaimee notice bruises on Carnel butt around SAME time around the cat dead in tub..... Ummmmm.. Interesting..

BUT let's just continue on with Carnel being around this piece of crap!?!?!
Just tells me all the more, mommy dearest played her part in all this horror....

JerseyJane said...

Sorry a weeks time according to her NG phone interview was around Carnels death that bruises were seen and according to Jaimee, Bennett demonstrated how hard he hit Carnel.. Demonstrated on Carnel? What a weak way to say you were apart of it.. We see thru it!

Mindy said...

Jazzy and Vita thank you for the explanation about this beautiful little boys father. Rest in peace Carnel.

michele shaffer said...

Rot in hell JAMIEE u worthless piece of shit .....

Vita said...

Jaimee in the Michigan press this week and week before. She within court pleaded out within the drug charges. She able to, that she offers information, against those who were with her, the controlled buy. She accompanied by two others from Mt. Pleasant, when they were arrested in Petoskey. Her pleading to a lesser charge. If she behaves and tells the truth, a smack and one years probation her penalty.

Not my concern. No. Her being arrested for conspiring, participating in premeditated murder of Carnel is my concern.

The press to announce on Jan 4th, her house on Tomah Road has been removed, towed off the land.

Two links, press of the house being split apart, towed. One presser Morning Sun. Frank Cloutier to be quoted. He the PR rep of the Tribal. His words vs Kevin Chamberlain's words on MLive.

Cloutier:
The lot itself is Tribal trust land, under the jurisdiction of the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribal Council. Cloutier said a non-Native relative of Jaimee Chamberlain actually holds title to the mobile home. Homes on trust land are supposed to be only for Natives.

“The land lease is with the Tribal Housing department,” Cloutier said. “Tribal Council plans on suspending the lease of the land to Jaimee Chamberlain according to our lease policies.”

The actual " House" then is not protected by federal law. Am I correct in what I am reading? It is not considered property of the Tribal. They have no governing of this mobile house.

My thoughts since the house, property, said by Kevin Chamberlain, NOV 7th, in press was yet under seizure of FBI the house, property off limits - is that the HOUSE was towed removed and hauled to Lansing, as it is a literal crime scene, inventory, put on wheels.

The house gutted. The house itself no longer livable. Would it not be cheaper to destroy it, take the debris, contain it, haul it away( from the property) to the nearest landfill? It was taken, towed intact for a reason.

Kevin Chamberlain, interviewed told MLive, opposing Cloutier and he stated affirming, Jaimee herself owns the house. Which is it?

I find it speculator that Kevin Chamberlain is the only source ever to squeak on Jaimee's behalf.

He has stated, been quoted several times he has no knowledge of where Jaimee is, nor has he made any verbal contact with her. He though the keeper of HER answers, he to be all knowing. How can this be?
Seems to me he has a birdy on his shoulder.

I don't care who he was once, or who he is today, no meaning to me. His said is his own for his own gratis. Carnel is not his, he deemed spokesman. How many times was KC in Carnel's presence to know him? He is the Telethon appointed. He is the Jerry Lewis of the Tribal. Yes, I said it. He speaks and they are rewarded.

Where is CARNEL? oh he, KC, still thinks of him often, the quote in the press. If he stepped aside and he ceased his buffering, maybe JC would speak to the press? that she doesn't have to fulfill the expectations of protecting the TRIBE. Let her speak.

She has a voice. She her entire world, has been exposed, in the last months. If one of the press were to approach her, I believe she would talk. She is voiceless as Kevin extinguishes her right to speak.

He offers a contrived political stance, his said, that they wish they could do more to help, her now charges. I am not buying it.

What have they done? for her? to her, her reasoning of why she will not speak to the press?

How about KC walking away and letting her be accountable? Let her tell her side instead of the protected, political, Tribal side. His entitled spokesman, he created. It is Drivel. It certainly isn't productive for Carnel's better interest.

Once she speaks and offers statements the doors will open for CARNEL, his justice. This is about Carnel, the only victim.

links:
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/01/house_at_site_of_carnel_chambe.html

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20130103/NEWS01/130109886/scene-of-carnel-tragedy-quietly-hauled-away

michele shaffer said...

Jamie have a voice shes a whore wut women in their right mind after her child is murdered starts up a new relationship with a native guy and gets caught selling drugs on school zone ..i think NOT ...this is just plain sick as hell i would say more but im not..all i can say is screw the chamberlians drug infested family and shame on the law enforcement that hasnt made her ROT in PRISON. DOMINICKS LAW NEEDS TO PUT HER BEHIND BARS FOR LIFE LIKE. A.B.

Vita said...

Michele if you are who I think you are. May I ask of you one question?

You as a mother, would you testify against both for the premeditated murder of a innocent? Carnel had no choice, he was brought in and salvaged. He to entrust no one, as he never had anyone to truly bond with in his 4 short years on this earth. He had people yes, he though was taken from. He to be displaced, misplaced and put into the hands of - his torture. He to be victim of two that fed off each other. He to become their sick and evil personal punching bag. The photos of Carnel with them prove it so. You a mother Michele, you alone can make it better, not worse, but create progress for Carnel. He was taken, he was abused, he was tortured, he was disabled. He at 4 yrs old, when children learn to speak with confirmation - he Carnel was said to ask of others, in the morning

How did you sleep?

Michele your sleep is disrupted, not because your unaffected, because you are affected, this unrest within you to go on for 15 years plus. I pray for you, I pray you let go, not of what you love, but to let go. You to be able to say to one, when they ask you -How did you sleep, you to say I feel good.

Carnel needs you Michele. He does. You are capable of making right to all the wrong, you just you. You can make all the difference, in Carnel's fate, positive. He deserves nothing less. V

Anonymous said...

Michele you are disgusting. Your accusations against th family are laughable. Lets get into your past. Those in glass houses...

Anonymous said...

You are disgusting. Ab is your son!! I think you need medication
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Anonymous said...

(PT.1)When you read what was actually said, it sounds much different than to truly hear their voices. I have been following this story from the very beginning. I was out there that night helping to search for little Carnel. I saw his mother, standing on the porch, holding Carnel's stuffed animal, looking lost. Looking like a person who can't find her son, who was detached in a way that said to me, that she was in shock.

I also saw Anthony Bennett, pacing back and forth on the front porch, walking in and out of the home. Straight faced, blank, and looking like nothing could possibly bother him. All I can say is, if I had been watching a young child, and that child 'went missing' I would be apologizing, I would be frantic, I would be fidgeting and going over and over in my mind the events that happened that day. Anthony Bennett looked bored.

I knew from the moment that I saw his face, that he did something. I didn't want to believe it. I didn't want to say it aloud, because I had hope that Carnel would be found. Every time I saw AB, I just knew it in my gut, he was guilty. When I looked at JC, I felt sorrow, I wanted to hug her. She was alone. In that moment, alone.

I helped to search for 6 hours that night, and there were areas that there would be absolutely no way a child could get into, thick brush and trees, that no timid child would enter. When Carnel wasn't found by the following afternoon, I knew that he was dead.

I watched the news programs, and was becoming frustrated that they were treating this as a case of a boy who wandered away. Even after countless people stating that Carnel would not do that. He wasn't the kind of child who would just wander. And still, the police, the FBI, all law enforcement that was involved treated this as a missing case. It floored me. I kept in mind that this could be a tactic, trying to hide the fact that they knew more than what they were letting on.
(Cont.)

Anonymous said...

(PT.2) Strange how everyone is stepping up to condemn Jaimee along with Anthony when no one was there beforehand. Why not? I have a niece and a nephew, I see them at least 3-4 times a week. Are you trying to say that Carnel's uncle was not involved with the boy's life after he moved in with his mother?

What if Jaimee felt as though she had no where to go, and no one to turn to? I believe that she acted as though she was abused, and that she does feel guilty. Not because she also beat her son, or new of his murder, or participated in his murder...but because she did not take action. Even before her son was found her own family was turning against her. Her actions seem almost expected for someone who does not know how to cope. Some people would curl up into a ball, weep, and rely on the love and support of family and friends. Jaimee does not have love and support from family and friends, an entire community lashed out against her. She turned to drugs as a coping mechanism. It is not uncommon.

She left her job, she could not attend her own son's memorial (I wouldn't either if I knew that everyone would lash out at me instead of offering support.) We all want to blame someone, we all want to see AB pay for what he has done. Does Jaimee deserve some jail time - yes. She failed to protect her son. Which leads me to believe that her life was threatened on more than one occasion by AB. He was violent, to not only her son, but to her. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that she was abused before AB, before Carnel's father. A life of abuse can cause a person to find it almost, normal.

What also doesn't make sense to me, is that the burning of Carnel's body took place during daylight hours. The neighbors (who are relatives of Jaimee) reported smelling a 'strange barbeque smell' - and police did nothing about it. A family member found something that had been burned near the front porch (which is where Carnel was found later) and reported it to police, who did nothing about it. That cadaver dogs were not brought in, until a week after his missing.

There are holes every where you turn! Jaimee sounded frantic when she talked to Nancy Grace, and even in interviews that were published in the news paper and aired on TV. I expect that.

Do I feel that Jaimee Chamberlain helped to murder her son and dispose of his body, no. She passed two polygraph tests, and those tests are not easy. There were no red flags in her tests, and she fully co-operated with authorities. She wanted to find her son. The drugs are her escape from reality. Why should she care about herself anymore? This is the actions of a woman who is giving up. Her brother with the pointy fingers is angry. Lashing out against his sister. He failed to protect her from Carnel's father, just as he failed to protect her and her son from this monster. Maybe he also feels partially responsible for not knowing or noticing or being there.

Family and friends spoke out about how Jaimee was ready to take on the responsibility of her son. That she was ready to be a complete family, which is why she started the process of getting her son back. She trusted Anthony, and quite possibly loved him. Abuse began after her mother left the state. It's such a small window of time. Jaimee has stated that she was trying to help Anthony to not abuse her son when disciplining him. Things do not normally escalate the way they did in this case. (Cont.)

Anonymous said...

(PT.3) Anthony has also been charged with tempering with witnesses in the case concerning Carnel. I think a lot of people were afraid of Anthony, and without sufficient evidence, law enforcement cannot do anything about it. If a violent person has an allegation brought against them, and it is brought to their attention - they will lash out. Suspicion is not enough to put a person in jail. You need proof. Without that proof, if someone were to speak out and report child abuse...it would have lead to an investigation in the home. No arrests would have been made, and I am sure the child was trained to lie about his bruising.

Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that Jaimee is just as guilty as Anthony, but I truly feel, with everything that I have seen, read, and been told, she was a victim. She was beat and threatened - and without her mother, she was alone.

Anonymous said...

(PT.4) *When I was copying and pasting my original postings, I somehow cut out some of what I wanted to say, so here it is*

There was a mentioning that when someone is guilty that they want to point the blame on someone who is not. I am aware that Jaimee's brother started the petition to put his sister in to jail - and that Jaimee had stated, while talking to Nancy Grace, that her brother was the one who introduced her to Anthony Bennett. Jaimee has more than one brother. The one who is petitioning to put her in jail, and one who is in prison. The one who is in prison is the brother that introduced AB to Jaimee. She trusted her brother wouldn't send a murderous monster to her doorstep - but he did.

To be fair, in a sense, when you look up a person on MDOC it will state their charges, but not the actual extent of their charges. For example: A person with a felonious assault charge could be defending themselves by hitting a person with a baseball bat before said person stabs them with a knife. Felonious Assault with intent to cause serious bodily harm. The same charge can be given to a person who beats someone who is innocent almost to death.

There is really no way to find out exactly what happened from charges listed on MDOC. AB could have simply stated that he was 'defending' himself - there is the example. Also, if you are a minor and you have committed a crime, and did not serve time in prison, those charges would not show up on a MDOC website. Most of those charges end up being wiped away.

AB stabbed his own sister and beat another teenager close to death. He was removed from his mother's care because she was deemed 'unfit' and he was living in an 'unfit home.'

A previous girlfriend's mother of AB also came out with information that he was abusive to her daughter and granddaughter and also had abused, killed, burned, and buried the little girls dog. Yet did nothing. Said nothing, reported nothing to authorities. A person also stated that a week before Carnel was murdered, AB had drowned a cat in the jacuzzi tub (off of the back bedroom). Yet said nothing and reported nothing. I would also like to state, that just because something took place in a home, does not mean that everyone who resides there will know about it. Everyone is jumping to conclusions that Jaimee was aware of the cat, but there is a good chance that she wasn't.

I think a lot also has to be said that it wasn't until AB was taken into custody, that people began to speak out about his past and his behavior. AB is also charged with two counts of tampering and threatening witnesses. Even attacking one of them. An acquaintance of AB also came out with information that AB liked to brag about beating Jaimee. He laughed as he told how he would abuse her - and then ended on a serious note that if this acquaintance said anything that he would kill him.

Anthony Bennett is a very dangerous person who committed a crime that is unspeakable and shook an entire community. People were afraid of him, seriously enough that they kept quiet until they knew, he could not attack them for speaking out.

Fear can cripple a person, it can change a person. We don't know what all went on inside of that house. How it began, what was said, how bad things were. We probably will never know. I think that this witch hunt that has been put out against Jaimee has shut her mouth. Why would anyone believe what she has to say - to most of you, she is a monster as well. (Cont.)

Anonymous said...

(Pt.5) I would also like to mention the reason why Carnel's biological father is in prison and was not involved in his son's life. He tried to kill Jaimee. Beat her within inches of her life. I would not be surprised if we were to find out that Jaimee was abused, even as a child. That alone, that abuse in her past alone, could have brought up bad memories and cause her to fall back into a victim mode.

AB could have threatened her life or her son's life, or both before this happened. A threat can do a lot. It can shut a person up. Like I stated before, we don't know what happened. There has been a picture painted here showing how Jaimee could also be guilty of this crime. I am only trying to show how she could have been a victim, afraid of the man she once loved.

People are stating that they believe that she helped to beat Carnel, that she had a hand in is murder. What if it was the opposite? What if instead of that scenario, it was the fact that AB abused Carnel to tear Jaimee down. Grabbed him by the throat so that Jaimee would say she loved him?

I agree with the fact that she is covering some things up, leaving details out. I am sure that she has all sorts of demons about what happened to her son. That is to be expected. She has not spoke out about the extent of abuse that happened to her, so it makes sense to not give all of the details.

I don't know about most of you, but can you remember back to a day, even two days ago and be able to say what your child wore? What your child said to you, word for word, what your child was doing exactly before leaving for work? Would you be able to recall all of the details?

I believe that Jaimee had no idea the monster AB truly was. Monster's can hide themselves extremely well. That's how they are able to do the things they do. They wear a mask and walk around as if they are normal, when deep inside they are evil. I have seen this first hand, with several people. One appears to be a good boyfriend and father, until he shoves meds down a persons throat, threatens to kill them and their family if they leave him. One appears to be a good boyfriend, until they beat a child black and blue for not stacking wood correctly. One appears to be a girl who was wronged until she lies and steals, and threatens an entire family. One appears to be a Minister, until he murders his girlfriends daughter and then tries to rape her once shes dead - with her young son in the home.

There are two sides to every story, and when the story is not told, there are to possible outcomes. One being that JC helped with what happened to Carnel, and the other being that she was helpless.

michele shaffer said...

TELL THAT TO THE LADY I SPEAK TO EVERY WEEK AT MENTAL HEALTH AND IM SURE SHE WILL LAUGH IN UR FACE U DONT KNOW MY LIFE OR WHAT DHS PUT MY WHOLE FAMILY THROUGH or the TRIBLE SOCIAL SERVICES ....U WANT TO TALK TO DHS THEY RAISED MY CHILD IN BOYS HOMES NOT ME IM NOT A DRUNK NOR A PERSON THAT DRINKS I HOLD DEGREES AT MMCC ....AND WORK FOR A LIVING ....I DID THE BEST I COULD AS A PARENT AND ON TIP OF IT I WASNT INVOLVED WITH MY SON OR THE TRASHY PEOPLE HE WAS INVOLVED WITH AND ON TOP OF IT I GOT A CALL SAYIN A BOY WAS MISSING .....WHEN I LIVED IN OHIO ....I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT GURL OR THE BOY SO SIT THERE AND HIDE ANONYMOUS UR A IDIOT

michele shaffer said...

Lets go wut u got on me ....NOTHING

michele shaffer said...

I did testify in front of 24 jury people all the way from ohio wtf are u talking about i didnt know jamiee or her son and i sure didnt know my son anthony ....so lets get this right I BELIEVE JAMIEE AND ANTHONY ARE BOTH GUILTY ....DHS HAD MY SON FROM AGE 12 PUT IN BOY CAMPS DO U THINK DHS CARED HOW THEY RAISE UP KIDS HELL NO THEY SEE THIS $$$$$$$ STATE MONEY TRIBLE MONEY LETS FUK UP HER LIFE IS WUT THEY SAID AND THOUGHT .....AND FOR PEOPLE CUTTING ME DOWN I KNOW WHO THE FUK I AM A CARING LOVING PERSON THAT DONT DO DRUGS OR DRINK AND HOLDS DEGREES AT MMCC AND I WORK! IM NOT A WELFARE CASE NOR GET MONEY FROM THE REZ ...EVERYONE WANTS TO CUT ME WELL FUK ALL U .....I HAVE COMPASSION FOR MY SON THROUGH EVERYTHING HE IS MY SON!

Anonymous said...

To Michele Shaffer: All that I stated about you was that the state found that you were 'unfit' and that the children lived in an 'unfit' home. That was all that I was aware of. I don't have an inside story to you or your family - I had one with the Chamberlains. By putting the little quotation marks around the word 'unfit' was showing that I was told that, not that it was a fact to me. I personally, did not insinuate that you drank or do drugs. Some people are messed up, on the inside, and it doesn't matter who they are raised by, if they do not have the help that they clearly needed - they continue to be a monster. I was trying to show a different side to the story - and I am aware that it is and was hurtful to you as well. I don't know you, or the conditions of how things turned out the way they did. Yes, I choose to remain anonymous, that is my choice. I am sorry that your family also has to go through with this. I know that the tribe is shady, and that most are money hungry. No, I don't know what DHS put you through or the tribe, and I don't pretend to know either.

I am also aware that the state of Michigan can be dirty as hell too. I do not hold you or your mothering skills accountable for what happened. The fact that your son had been escalating for a while and nothing was done, breaks my heart. I am not saying that I believe that the state or the tribe or the time that you had while raising your son made him this way. I don't believe that. I am fully aware that some people have mental issues, and most go unnoticed - but I feel that Anthony's were noticeable - and ignored.

I am sure that a witch hunt is out for you as well, if what you say is true, you lost your children under unfair circumstances - then you deserve some compassion as well. You are right, at the end of every day, your son is still your son.

I did not come out and attack you, I barely mentioned you - because I was aware that you didn't have custody of your son.

Just so we are clear on which posts are mine - it's the numbered ones only.

Anonymous said...

This analysis does not seem far off and I strongly believe her substance abuse problem was so out of control she had to work despite all the money she received she needed drug money. An opiate addiction cost a lot to fund sadly is why she had Carnel because she wanted his tribal money for her and Anthony.

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Anonymous said...

And as I was looking around on the floor to see what all got wet, I noticed his two, they`re brown stains on my carpet and I noticed that only the stains were wet

His two what Jaimee? Bloodstains? She knew.