To describe the victim as abusive is a distance from "I didn't kill him."
1. She was not there.
2. Masked men broke in and did it.
now:
3. It was self defense.
Please note that the victim is unable to speak for himself.
Woman accused of killing Arizona boyfriend says she once awoke to find him having sex with her
Published February 11, 2013
Associated Press
PHOENIX – A woman charged with killing her lover broke down in tears Monday as photographs of the smiling couple were displayed for jurors, and she recalled "happier times" before she stabbed and shot him to death.
Jodi Arias, 32, has spent four days on the witness stand recounting for jurors her troubled childhood marred by abuse at the hands of her parents, a string of bad relationships, and how Travis Alexander belittled her, cheated on her, call her derogatory names and used her to fulfill his sexual fantasies.
Arias faces the death penalty if convicted of first-degree murder in Alexander's 2008 killing.
Prosecutors claim she killed Alexander in a jealous rage, stabbing and slashing him 27 times, slitting his throat and shooting him in the head.
1. Arias says it was self-defense after initially telling authorities she wasn't there.
2. She then blamed it on masked intruders.
3. She now claims Alexander attacked her, forcing her to fight for her life.
She said she continued to date him, even while believing he was cheating on her, because she had low "self-esteem."
"I was kind of a door mat," Arias said, staring sheepishly at jurors.
Note the reduced commitment with "kind of" a door mat; not "I was a door mat; I was walked on."
She described on Monday how she once awoke from sleeping in his bed to find the victim having sex with her, an incident for which she felt responsible.
"I went to sleep next to him. I was wearing a T-shirt, cute shorts," Arias said.
Note the addition of "cute" shorts. It would be interesting to know how many males were on the jury.
She has repeated throughout her testimony that Alexander made her feel like a prostitute, and how she fulfilled his fantasies, including wearing boy's underwear and having sex in public.
In late 2007, she said, his mental and verbal abuse turned physical when "he pushed me down to the ground."
She said she became so distraught at one point that she called a friend who owned guns.
"I was going to ask him if I could borrow one because I was going to kill myself," Arias said.
Note that she does not say that she asked him for a gun to kill herself; only that she was "going to."
The jury is being courted.
During previous testimony, Arias described for jurors how Alexander made repeated sexual advances while converting her into the Mormon faith during their initial courtship. She said she didn't tell him to stop, but the sex made her uncomfortable because she felt it violated the teachings of Mormonism.
She said she first met him in Las Vegas in late 2006, and that they stayed together for about five months before she broke it off, but Alexander promised he would change so they continued to see each other for sex.
Julie Haslem, a friend of Alexander who has been watching the trial, said Arias' testimony that Alexander was abusive and a sexual deviant is false.
"It's bad enough that she took his life. Now she's trying to take his reputation, too," Haslem said outside court.
Arias claims she went to Alexander's home on June 4, 2008, the day of the killing, at his urging.
Alexander's friends said she stalked him and became possessive and jealous.
Authorities said they found Arias' hair and bloody palm print at the scene, along with time-stamped photographs in a camera discovered inside Alexander's washing machine.
Authorities also say Alexander was shot in the head with a .25 caliber gun, the same caliber Arias' grandparents reported stolen from their Northern California home
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Horrible crime. Pretty whacked out though that he made her dress in boy's underwear and have sex in public. (?) That's messed up!
It's all hear-say. The victim is not here to refute any of it. She's grooming the jury and weaving her stories to lead them in one direction - the direction where JA looks like a victim and TA looks like the predator. She's not believable. TA is now a rapist, a pedo, a sadist, a perv, and abuser all wrapped in one. Not one other person has backed up her testimony as truth.
I hate watching her spew her lies, and can't wait til she's cross-examined. I think she will be squirming in her seat.
Arias' ubiquitous sentence starting "Um…"s are Billie Jean-esque.
If there's ever a time in the future when I want to tell someone an example of a pure sociopath, I'm going to say Jodi Arias. She gives me the creeps, and I can't understand how anyone who listens to her doesn't immediately realize she's lying. Then again, I'm a female, so maybe men are more susceptible to her lies.
She has to contain her smirks, her glee, her happiness with her handiwork in slashing Travis throat from one end of his neck to another, from killing him "good," how she thinks of it in her twisted brain.
She is pure evil! I hope to God she gets the death penalty, she deserves it. When she is convicted, I hope Travis family sues her up the ying yang, so any money she tries to make from her "art" is not benefitting her in any way. She relishes telling these sordid sex stories to the jury. More Jodi "stories," that's what it is.
She stalked a man, she murdered a man in a heinous fashion. She is ugly, not pretty, not gorgeous, not a beauty. She is ugly inside and out. Dead eyes, dead all the way through.
When is she going to be finished? This judge needs to be a cap on it, left to Jodi and her defense they will keep going till the cows come home. I'm not listening anymore to her sexual inventions. She was aggressive, her boyfriend Dwayne already told us. Her dates told us. This charade has to be put to an end.
I don't recall ever seeing any other testimony by any other witness in any other case with so much embellishment allowed in the 'storytelling'.
Usually the embellishment must come from the creative questioning of the attorney.
The boy's underwear were a copy of the pair that Cameron Diaz wore in a cute scene in the Movie Charlie's Angels. Nothing weird about that.
Also............there is NO EVIDENCE for what she has claimed from day one of testimony to now. This is "The World According to Jodi Arias". Pure Fiction.
Will the court room be sanitized once Yucky Jodi and her yucky lawyer finish their thrill stories!?
Watch the video of Jodi Arias's interrogation with Detective Flores, she is stretching her body all over the place, tossing her hair around, and acting so coy. She really likes to toy with men, doesn't she?
What struck me immediately about the pic above is:
She is enjoying herself.
It's all in the eyes, she is loving every salacious second of her testimony, she is getting off on the second by second details of every sex act, the more shocking and base the better.
I see the same look in serial killers and rapists, they are reliving the moment and getting their rocks off. I would be tempted to ask if she is a trophy collector, each conquest she takes something of theirs away.
She was always going to testify, she needs to be the centre of attention, she demands everyone stop for her. her attornies would have told her to stay off the stand, they knw she did it, everyone did tyhe moment her story changed the first time from not being there to strangers did it.
Her ego is the obstacle for her own defence.
Self defence is one one, to stop the attacker carrying on the attack, it is a lashing out due to fear and panic, it is one weapon.
Self defence does not include multiple weapons, it does not include multiple stab wounds, it certainly does not include standing behind the fallen attacker, lifting his head up and slicing his throat open.
This was planned, this was up close and personal, this was a very pi$$ed off woman.
She was making sure he would never get up, if she couldn't have him no one could.
She was sending out a message as well, don't mess with me.
I will go so far as to say she enjoyed every second of his murder.
Appears you are correct, enjoyed it so much she's writing her own little fairy/witch tale about it.
Her new jail girlfriend better watch out!
It would be hard for me to be on the witness stand, and tell this tale, but there is no way on earth I would tell it in front of my sick father and and 12 yr old brother who were in court yesterday. She has no boundries, and I agree, she is getting off on telling her story. I can't wait to see what happens when she is cross-examined. I hope she is not allowed to say she can't remember, as she has remembered everything, no matter how small, from the last 10 yrs!
I only caught a glimpse of JA's father yesterday while she was on the stand. I'd say the look on his face was "incredulous". As if the person on the witness stand was not someone he recognized to be his daughter - even though it looked like his daughter.
I fear I will get told off if I give my thoughts because they dont fit the thread
I am worried about this jury. They seem to ask questions like they are not at all present for this trial.
Like she is saying she did it. Evidence proves she was there at the time. Yet they (the jury) were asking questions about some other possible person being present and responsible.
I worry that this is another case like with Casey, that all the confusion and lie after lie actually will benefit her.
And I do hear everyone go on and on about her like they did with Casey about how beautiful and attractive is, but I dont see it. She is average looking right now which is what she really looks like. The made up look is and always has been fake.
But still, I wish everyone would stop playing on that. It has nothing to do with what she looks like.
And while there are all these mising kids cases, it amazes me that shows like Nancy Grace do nothing but talk about the "Bombshell".
I even emailed the show asking for more coverage on cases like Dlyan. Cases that are unsolved.... But alas, all they care about is the bombshell.
And all her comments about how Travis made her do all this sex acts. Please this girl is no virgin. And how many couples out there have sex in public, wear outfits or do various things to spice things up.
For her to act like this was enough to lead her to murder him is a joke.
Couples every day in america participate in different locations, positions, etc and look at it as a postive thing.
I think they are having her tell these stories knowing the jury is mainly men. They are playing a game and Travis will not get justice becasue of it.
"The jury is being courted."
My analysis of this statement: you nailed it.
She had so many sensitivity indicators. Almost all her responses were qualified.
Her attorney asked her after a particular trip if Travis had said "I love you to her". A yes or no question, which she had to answer with additional information, but no yes or no. In this case she made it seem as if he didn't. I think he was very loving with her when he dropped her off, and she couldn't lie.
When she found out he was "cheating" on her, she stated that the reason she found out was because he had left his phone unattended and she got it and went into the bathroom and closed the door. I am curious though as to why it entered her language.
She said that Travis was "kind of" domineering also.
When she was asked if there was Sexual activity in Huntington Beach, she didn't say there was, only that she believes there was.
When asked about Travis' sexual perversion, she said she "believed" she was in denial.
When asked if she got along well with Travis during their trip to New York and Cleveland she said "pretty well". I have a feeling she had been arguing with him throughout the entire trip.
When asked if she broke up with him after the trip when she confronted him on the phone about his infidelities, she said it was the "end as an "official" couple" What's with that? You are either a couple or you are not. She never was a couple with him. That's why she is being so sensitive to that question.
Today she appeared visibly shaken in court and finally real tears could be seen. I believe something is not going her way. The prosecution must have gotten ahold of some concrete evidence to her lieing. I think the broken finger she attributed to Travis' violence went too far or some evidence about Travis came out which will preclude her from dragging him through the mudd.
There are 8 male jurors some are young. That explains the "cute shorts". Her entire testimony seemed like a Danielle Steele novel.
I would ask just when she got this broken finger
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Another of her lies:
"So he ejaculated on your face and threw you some candy?" Nurmi asked Arias.
"Pretty much," she said.
She didn’t say yes or no, but “pretty much”.
Don't be surprised if letters written by "Travis" are allowed.
Arias' defense team has also tried to include 10 letters that they say Alexander wrote as evidence of his attraction to boys.
Handwriting experts for the defense claim that the letters were written by Alexander, while experts for the prosecution say they were forged.
The letters may be admitted into testimony later this week.
The defense may also play an audio recording of a phone conversation between Arias and Alexander from 2008 that is sexual in nature.
Link: http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-claims-boyfriend-violent-admitting-attraction-boys/story?id=18465253&page=2
Hobnob said,
"she is enjoying herself"
I agree, Hobnob.
The whole world's a stage and Jodi is in the starring role because she murdered a lover who threatened scorn.
Jodi is a liar,true, but Travis appears to have enjoyed playing with fire.
Travis Alexander may have, and I believe probably did treat Jodi Arias in a cruel manner. He was empty enough inside not to care about her. Travis was traumatized from his childhood and more than likely could not form close bonds.
BUT, it doesn't matter. None of that gives Jodi Arias the right to murder him. This is wasted testimony. It's like telling what a rape victim was wearing or giving her past sexual history...so what?
Jodi Arias is a sociopath who uses people. She knew Travis Alexander was easy pickings. When he tried to escape her with another woman, she had no use for him. She needs the jury now and that's who she is playing up to.
Today's blunder: while discussing today's audio tape she stated that earlier he had mistreated her, they were online and he wanted her to call him, and she told him she needed time to compose herself from the "bad" mood she was in, then quickly caught hersel and said "sad mood". I hope these jurors aren't dummies.
I believe she had secretly recorded her phone conversation with Travis to use it against him if he didn't acquiesce to her demands. She was the one bringing up sex into the conversation. She was doing it on purpose.
Sus said,
"Travis Alexander...etc."
I agree with this.
Jodi is a cold blooded killer, a liar, and has a disturbing personality.
Unfortunately, Travis was attracted to this type of woman and it cost him his life.
ick, ick, ick..
need to 'unhear' today's testimony..
She's a murdering psychopath!!!!!
Why are you listening if it makes you sick?
not sick..just 'ick', I really wanted to hear context and tone of a couple of things. but..yuk..
She and the defense did the pros a favor today, and I can only hope the jury is really paying attention..
Answers like "pretty much" should be followed up under cross.
I find it so interesting that the only day Jodi's dad and young brother attended was the day of the intensely perverse sexual testimony...talk of him ejaculating in her face and how she continued to fulfill his 'list of fantasies' after supposedly catching him in the act of masturbating to child pornography.
You can see how much she's enjoying playing to the jury and having all of the attention in the courtroom focused on her. She is going into such graphic detail to essentially drive the knife a little deeper...not only has she taken his life, but also his essence. She has tainted every memory and every perception his family, friends and collegues every had of Travis Alexander. They will never again be able to think of him without a glimpse of his butchered body and her accusations flashing in their subconscious mind.
Listening to her testimony with an ear for SA is maddening...EVERYTHING she says contains qualifiers (sometimes both before and after her 'answers', which never seem to address ONLY the question posed). I don't believe a WORD she says, and in my opinion she's a manipulative sociopath, who pursued Travis Alexander with the intention of screwing her way to a better life. No more two jobs and a mortgage, she could attach herself to TA, live in his house, travel with him, and 'marry him and have him as a wonderful father to her children'. She did what she thought it would take to reach her goal, converting to Mormonism, acting like she was immersed in his beliefs...but that kept her from using her most power tool of persuasion-SEX!
Once she seduced him into violating his beliefs...she had him..he couldn't just tell her to get lost or she would expose the true nature of their relationship and cause him major issues. She continued to pursue sexual contact with him, even driving 1000's of miles to do so. When he made it clear that they would never be more than a booty call, she set her plan in motion to kill him...if she couldn't have her happily ever after, then neither would he.
Jen,
Totally Agree with everything you said.
Jodi is totally evil and should never be a free woman again.
She taped their "sex talk fantasies" as a tool to blackmail him, whether in life or in death.
She is psycho. A female Norman Bates.
There is a new tee shirt Arias photo with the words "Norman Bate"s underneath.
Ebay is selling T's "Arias is Guilty". Arias family is still attempting to sell an 1800 $ drawing by her on Ebay. I look forward to the day Travis's family can put an end to the sick Arias's profiting from Travis's murder.
Hi Anon-
Agreed, I'm disgusted by her selling 'murder-abilia' on eBay..her narcissism is unreal. I'm not sure she realizes she is INFAMOUS for committing a brutal murder, rather than famous. The way she answers every question with a detailed monologue suggests she is more than comfortable discussing her behavior, and is actually enjoying it (while she feigns sheepishness).
I wonder if her answers will maintain the same format when it comes to explaining the deed itself, or if she'll be a little more sketchy on those IMPORTANT details. I actually started laughing at the phone sex tape, she can't stop herself from babbling on like an idiot no matter what she's doing (it wasn't grunts and groans, ooo's and aahh's...it was Jodi running her mouth, lol). I don't understand why the Judge has allowed this never-ending charade...nothing she's said can be backed-up by evidence and the victim has no voice, Jodi made sure of that.
I seriously doubt he "made" her do anything.
I seriously doubt he "made" her do anything.
I am catching up on the last few days.
Got a chance to hear her taped sex talks.
What this should tell the jury is that this was the start of her "motive' building. Why else would she tape these calls now. Since she was clearly enjoying it as much as Travis.
But I still worry this will back up all the nasty things she said about him and they will find her not guility like with Casey.
I hope I am not right. But it almost seems like the more they through out the more confused the jury becomes and that they will just say "not guilty".
Lets pray thats not the case.
And for the record, I think she is lying about the lil boy in underwear. The rest I beleived and well, after the taped call, you cant deny. I do think Travis has issue. I think he has lied alot to his family. And the simple fact is, as hard core as he claims to be to his religion, all of what he was doing was absolutly against thier beliefs. Not just the specific acts, but the fact that he was not married to her.
But that still does not mean he was abusive. he may have felt she was a just for sex. He probably treated her as such.
I believe she was mad he wanted her gone and had a new woman. I think she planned the whole trip. I think she took those final photos of him to sorta side track him then did the dead.
Planned Murder. Period.
Lets just hope this dumb jury does not fally for it.
But based on the horrible questions they have had asked that have no relevance at all, I am deeply concerned.
Just for the record, her father and brother left the courtroom yesterday, before the start of the sex tape. Also, her brother is 19 or 20, not 12. He graduated high school in 2011.
The only time during her entire testimony today that she showed a smile and smirk was when disparaging Travis about a comment she left on a friend of his FB page.
She was smiling and had to explain the comment. She kept saying it was funny. - It wasn't.
She emailed Travis a poem. She tells her attorney:
"He was a good poet too". She considers herself a good poet. Very narcissistic.
It is going to be interesting as she gets closer to the actual crime.
Guilty people spendf a lot of time and detail describing the events before the crime, it is a slow approach, because it is sensitive they want to delay talking about it as long as possible.
This would partly explain her rambling statements going into minute detail in the months , weeks and days before she murdered him.
I will bet that when it comes to the day in question her answers will be shorter, less detailed, she will want to avoid spending any length of time on the sensitive period.
As soon as they move to after the murder her statements will become more detailed and longer. Her form alone indicating deception.
I will also be looking for minimising words and dropped pronouns.
Initially she claimed she was never there till the photos were found, then it became 2 men and finally self defense.
Her attornies will have a problem explaing why her story changed 3 times as well as explaining self defence when 27 stab wounds, a gunshot and a slit from ear to ear throat comes up.
A gunshot could be passed off as self defense. a single stab would the same, maybe even a couple if they were in the font.
Stab wounds in the back cannot never be claimed as self defense, the victim is facing away from you so they are eiher running away or face down and thus not a threat.
The slit throat can in no way be claimed as self defense, she woul have had to stand over him and pull his head bck exposing his throat before slashing it. That is not self defense , that is murder plain and simple. it was an unnecessary action far beyond defending oneself.
27 stab wounds is not self defense it is unadulterated rage at the victim, it is blood lust, stabbing is up close and personal, she would have been drenched in his blood, she would have fel the knife going in time and time again, the slicing of his throat was her coup de grace, she knew he would never survive that even if he had survived his other injuries.
I think her ego will be her downfall, it impelled her to take the stand whereas her attornies would have been begging her say nothing and maybe the jury will do a pinellas 12 and clear you.
People do not like sluts, she has portrayed herself as one, the jury will see her relieving an enjoying every salacious detail, they will see no remorse over what she did, she comes over as self-centred and unlikeable. Every woman will see her as disgusting and a threat to every male, the male will see her as spoiled goods, a slut, a woman with no morals, the kind you see on a street corner in a rough district. she will be viewed as unclean, i wonder how many have the urge to scrub themselves clean after listening to her.
She is totally unlikeable, the kind of woman all parens warn their sons about.
FYI I remember reading/hearing somewhere that there are 11 men on the jury.
11 Men, 7 Women: 12 Jurors, 6 Alternates. Not sure who is what.
Anyone else out there feel like a couple of the photos of Travis in the shower right before look like he may have been scared?
There is one where he has his arms folded in front of his chest. not really a normal way people would be just standing in the shower. and there is one where hes looking at the camera. like i almost think he looks frightned. like maybe at this point he is aware she has a gun. maybe not totally convinced she would use it....
just something about the look on his face. and the one where he has his hands up over his head on the wall and hes facing it.
maybe she asked him to pose but something out it just seems offf.
If you look at still photos from the Hitchcock movie "Psycho" & compare them with the stills in the shower that Jodi persuaded or "directed" Travis to pose in, you'll see she was being "artistic" in killing him. I only wish I had the email for prosecutor Juan Martinez or his assistant in order to wise them up to this & would hope they'd be able to introduce it into his cross examination of her, given her obvious liking of movies as she indicated in her recorded "phone sex" conversation (intended to blackmail Travis in the Mormon/Prepaid Legal circles he ran in).
She meant to destroy him to the people he looked up to & whom looked up to him, before she decided to kill him.
ps Hobnob, Jen, etc, I admire your astute insights & look forward to reading more as the trial progresses. I particularly find interesting Hobnob's assessment of the quality of her future testimony at the time she's to discuss the sequence of events of her murdering him, & thereafter.
-Sierra
Here's a link to a comparison of stills in the shower scene in the Hitchcock movie "Psycho" & Jodi Arias' direction of Travis Alexander posing for her in the shower just before she overkill-murdered him.
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http://www.chathousenews.com/2013/02/the-shower-scene-jodi-arias-chat-house.html
@Hobnob your 7:34 comment about how she's enjoying describing every lavish detail of her kinky sex life; would you agree she's doing it for more than just run-of-the-mill attention (everyone's listening to what i have to say, etc) but to entice the male members of the jury? Does anyone know if she dyed her hair brown before the trial or if it grew out while she was behind bars? Because that, added with the glasses, do less to make her look like that blonde sexpot in the pictures and more like the demur librarian. Which makes her sexual escapades that much more shocking (and perhaps in her view: arousing). I honestly don't see how she will be found not guilty. She's been caught in so many lies through text, email, her own mouth. She can't answer any questions without completely sidestepping what was asked. Her entire defense is weak.
Good Lord she's so ugly, both now and in the old photos. Sure she wasn't 300 lbs but man this never ever was a good looking woman, the whole "she's a beauty" psycho killer is really old, and soooo inaccurate!
Yeah, I think she had low self esteem: she wanted a guy, a young guy, cause her old livein guy was 20 yrs her senior, and she wanted someone with some money, and some status and who was reaaaaaaaly whitebread, and she didn't like being half hispanic. Besides she didn't inherit the looks in that family--that's why she called her sister stupid.
But man, that is no reason to kill a guy.
I agree completely
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