Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Delay In Identifying Remains

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                                                             What if the remains are Hailey's?

If you were a prosecutor and you have been told, "it's not official yet, but it's Hailey.  Here is how we know..."

Would you consider not releasing the findings, and asking the various law enforcement departments to also withhold information?

Would you do this to let the pressure increase upon Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn?

We don't know that these remains are Hailey's.
Not yet, at least.

I believe that Hailey's remains are in Scurry County because Shawn Adkins said so.  He did so without qualifiers, and simply as a plain answer.  I believe him, just as I believe most everything that he and Billie Jean Dunn have said.  When he said, "I would never harm that little girl", I believe him.  That he "would" not do so, in the future tense, just as he said, is likely true since she cannot be harmed.  This is a principle in Statement Analysis:  let the subject guide us.

Who should law enforcement be looking at, as suspects, in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn?

Shawn said, "the two of us", meaning, he and Billie Jean Dunn.  I believe him.

I believe him when he named Scurry County, and I believe him when he was asked, "did you threaten Billie and Clint Dunn?" when he said, "yeah, and Hailey, too."

I believe him.

Imagine the fit Billie Jean threw at him after he came home and this information was released by police?

If you had the opportunity to withhold the public release of confirmation of the remains, so that you could watch Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins' reactions, would you do it?

I would.

If these are the remains of Hailey Dunns, we can know that Shawn Adkins knows the gig is up.  I am not certain that Billie Jean knows.  She may have told him, "Don't tell me exactly where, Shawn!  Stop calling me!  The cell phone is going to ping and give you away!  Go finish..."

I also believe that Hailey is in several locations.

Why is this?

When one of Billie Dunn's asked Shawn how someone could kill such a little girl, for Shawn, it was like "killing a deer."

This comparison came form his own personal vocabulary and I believe that he compared it to Hailey, and like a deer, 'gutted' or dismembered her and likely distributed her remains, over a period of time, in order to conceal the sexual crime.

That this is a sexual crime was first spoken to the public by Hailey's own grandmother, appearing on the Nancy Grace Show.  When said, it brought no shock from Billie Dunn, which, in fact, shocked Nancy Grace enough into asking Billie Dunn why she was not shocked.  Billie Dunn said, "this is the first I'm hearing of it.  Why didn't nobody tell me?" in her butchering of the English language. This was a mild deflection and caused Nancy Grace to make one of those faces she often makes when she hears a clearly deceptive response.

Behavioral analysis is in full gear as Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins await news.  There is a noteworthy increase in tension in Billie Jean Dunn's words.  Her attorney said she would not be speaking to media the day before she spoke to media.  She should have listened to him.

Each word spoken from them is important, and it is, to date, only Billie Jean who is speaking, giving clues to what she may or may not know about the remains in Scurry County.

Rest assured that both of them are being watched as we await news on the remains found in Scurry County.

56 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great analysis Peter! I too believe that Billie knows what happened to Hailey and she is the mastermind behind the whole ordeal, I learned a lot talking to Billie in private messages and on the page that leads me to believe 100% she knows! Praying Hailey gets Justice soon!

WOJ admin

Anonymous said...

Billie has been so worried about if this may be hailey or not, she made a Facebook page for her ferret, and even sicker, friends and family accepted the ferrets friend request!

Anonymous said...

Anon she is pathetic she can't even keep a page going for her missing daughter but can make one for tripp the dip SMDH! IMO this speaks volumes about her family like they all think this is a joke

WOJ admin

Anonymous said...

Exactly WOJ! It is heartbreaking and sickening!

Regular WOJ poster ;)

Anonymous said...

How could Shawn distribute Hailey's remains in several areas over a period of time when he was being watched nearly all the time by LE? Most of the time either LE had their eye on him or he was with Billie Jean or being hidden by Billie Jean.

Please explain when he would have had the opportunity to scatter Hailey's body parts over several areas, or move her body several times as some here have suggested.

Anonymous said...

I agree with some of Peter's statement, but I have always believed that Billie killed Hailey in a fit of anger and Shawn hid the body, with or without Billie's help. Billie was angry that Hailey had confirmed that it was Shawn who sent the dirty pictures to Michelle's phone.

Fern said...

Anonymous 6:59...I agree. I don't see Shawn scattering Hailey's remains over several areas or returning to the disposal site.

Juliette said...

What is *WOJ*?

dadgum said...

Thanks Juliette..I came in to ask that question :o)

Anonymous said...

WOJ= Waiting On Justice

The pics Shawn sent were sent to Hailey's aunt Cindy, Michelle was the one who told everyone about the what happened after she was told by someone that thought they could trust her

WOJ admin

BostonLady said...

http://www.examiner.com/article/hailey-dunn-bring-them-home-exclusive-interview-shawn-adkins-speaks-out

From March 3rd, 2011.

HOST: Describe a time when you failed in life.

SHAWN ADKINS: Hmm … well, for instance, with my relationship with Billie. I feel like I have failed that and then we overcame that problem and we’d been pretty strong ever since, even through the time we’re going through now. I was really terrified that when it happened I wasn't being the best boyfriend I could to her and I failed.

*******************

In reviewing some of Shawn's interviews, another astute fb contributor brought attention to Shawn's statement above. When the host asked about a time he felt he failed, he brought up Billie. Specifically he seems to be concerned that he failed her about "IT". What is Shawn referring to? I believe that he is referring to what happened to Hailey.

Shawn states it "Terrified" him and he wasn't being the best boyfriend he could and he failed. What happened? Did Billie snap and hurt Hailey and she demanded Shawn do something to help her? Did Shawn do something to Hailey ?

It is obvious Billie is the leader in this relationship. She is doing all the talking. Shawn is silent. But Shawn is the one who gave up the most information when he was questioned by LE.

They both are involved but Billie doesn't state she feels she failed Shawn.

Lemon said...

For the various Anons and scenarios, what is it from Billie and Shawn's language that leads you to your conclusions?

Anonymous said...

WOJadmin,

What were the pictures of?

Pak31 said...

I've said it before and I'll say it again. That this case has taken this long amazes me. Shawn and Billie are not even close to being very bright people. How they pulled it off this long is beyond me. I am sure LE knew all along but wanted to find Hailey to complete the case. That is fine with me. I just cringe thinking what this poor innocent girl had to go through, in her short life and at the end. Mom never was a mom, she never protected what should have been the most important person in her life. Very sad.

Anonymous said...

Fern, to me it doesn't seem plausible that Shawn ever had the occasion to go back repeatedly to place Hailey's body parts in different locales or to move her body here and there later on.

When? That would be too risky, knowing what he/they had done and hadn't gotten caught in the process. That would be like him leading wild dogs on a wild chase when he had already placed her where he wanted her. IMO, no way, nor did Shawn have that much freedom of movement (if anyt) from the day Billie reported Hailey missing. Whatever he/they did had to be before that day.

Also, I think some here may be starting to believe some of Billie's whiny lies and twisted stories in several areas, just not all, now are accepting some of her lying comments as little miss innocent other than her lying and covering up for Shawn, giving her too much benefit of the doubt and making excuses for her; even looking for bits and snippets of truth from her that do not exist.

Anon @ 7:18, I have always believed that Billie participated in the rape and brutal murder of Hailey; knows exactly where she was disposed of and may have helped to dispose of her. For danged sure, Shawn did not do anything to Hailey that Billie wasn't involved in or was not aware of to the inth degree.

How could ANYONE forget that Billie loved reading violent sexual materials, violent sex, violent sexual videos, adult porn video activities she participated in, degrading, sickening video taped sex with animals that she participated in; and last but not least, violent video taped child porn which is also CHILD RAPE.

Consider the source. Shawn did not do this alone. This woman is pure evil through and through.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 8:45
The pics were of Shawn's private parts, when Billie was confronted about this on our page she got very hostile about the subject and denied that Shawn ever sent pics to her aunt and then the aunt showed up on the page and told Billie that Shawn had sent several pics of himself to her and Billie finally admitted that she knew about it after law enforcement told her several days after Hailey went missing. 2 years later and Billie was still lying for Shawn, it was hilarious to see her aunt prove her the liar she is

WOJ admin

Nic said...

Peter, if LE holds onto info that incriminates SA and/or BJD in the hopes that they will roll over on each other, I will scream. Neither have come close to doing so even when porn was discovered, a knife sheath was found close to SA's house, when he was described as POI, when BJD was arrested for lying and drug possession, etc., If LE keeps mum about what they have found out, if they've found out anything at all, all that will happen is that BJD and SA will keep on keeping on thinking [they] "got nothing".

Enough with the games, already. Hailey deserves respect and closure as do her loved ones. Justice needs to be served!

jmo

Anonymous said...

Is it possible SA turned himself in and revealed the whereabouts of the remains?

If I were the prosecution I would definitely not delay justice unless, the case lacked sufficient evidence.

Broken Heart

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Anonymous said...

When she caught us on the couch and she shoved her head down yelling, "Do you like to suck his cock?". It felt so good, but it was only for a little while. I didn't know she couldn't breath.

CM said...

Great analysis Mr. Hyatt. I hope that justice will be served to those responsible.

Anon4themoment said...

Would somebody *please* delete Anonymous 9:52 PM's comment. Seriously not OK!
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Anon4themoment said...

ecossie possie said...

Look we are crediting known liars about the timeframe of Hailey dissapearance/murder.
At what point was Hailey seen by anyone other than Shawn Billie an Her Brother.?

Chances are that Hailey died much earlier than the day after Christmas.
Possably Christmas eve going into Christmas?
What would be the ultimate sick present for a couple of bloodthirsty sexuall deviants.

These extra couple of days gives Shawn the chance to disspose of the body after dismemberment .

He would also be able to disspose of the remains over differnt locations.

All this could have beeen acomplished 48 hrs before the alleged sleep over.
Giveing them a 4 day start on dissposeing of the remains.

What realy concerns me is if this was indeed a planed out crime .
Like Ive suggested the ultimite sick gift.
Two sick perverts like them are not going to waste the oppertunity.

I beleive they would have filmed the entire murder torture for a trophy an sick gratification.

They may have even coerced her brother to participate in some of the acts to incriminate an silance him.

Mention of dental records had me thinking a skull or jawbone must be amongst there findings.

Some where else I read that a single tooth may have been found in the jaw bone .
And I thought WHAT. teeth are remarkably sturdy an are rooted /anchored into the jawbones.

They find skulls thousands of years old with the teeth still present an correct.

Even aniamal deprevation wouldnt acount for every single tooth bar one being abbsent.

A skull or jawbone two years old is going to have practically all the teeth still there.

If this is Haileys remains an the teeth are missing.
Its because they were pulled out..

And Im not even going to write were that thought led me.

MizzMarple said...

Peter,

Thanks for this update on Hailey. You have done fantastic analyses on this case since the very beginning !

I bet Billie is shaking in her boots right now !

Peter Hyatt said...

BostonLady said...
http://www.examiner.com/article/hailey-dunn-bring-them-home-exclusive-interview-shawn-adkins-speaks-out

From March 3rd, 2011.

HOST: Describe a time when you failed in life.

SHAWN ADKINS: Hmm … well, for instance, with my relationship with Billie. I feel like I have failed that and then we overcame that problem and we’d been pretty strong ever since, even through the time we’re going through now. I was really terrified that when it happened I wasn't being the best boyfriend I could to her and I failed.

*******************

In reviewing some of Shawn's interviews, another astute fb contributor brought attention to Shawn's statement above. When the host asked about a time he felt he failed, he brought up Billie. Specifically he seems to be concerned that he failed her about "IT". What is Shawn referring to? I believe that he is referring to what happened to Hailey.

Shawn states it "Terrified" him and he wasn't being the best boyfriend he could and he failed. What happened? Did Billie snap and hurt Hailey and she demanded Shawn do something to help her? Did Shawn do something to Hailey ?

It is obvious Billie is the leader in this relationship. She is doing all the talking. Shawn is silent. But Shawn is the one who gave up the most information when he was questioned by LE.

They both are involved but Billie doesn't state she feels she failed Shawn.
March 26, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Anonymous said...

What if the remains are NOT Hailey's?

If you were a prosecutor and you have been told, "it's not official yet, but it's not Hailey. Here is how we know..."

You suspect that Hailey's remains are somewhere in Scurry County. Would you consider not releasing the findings, and asking the various law enforcement departments to also withhold information?

Would you do this to let the pressure increase upon Shawn Adkins and Billie Dunn?

If you had the opportunity to withhold the public release of confirmation of the remains, so that you could watch Billie Jean Dunn and Shawn Adkins' reactions, would you do it?

I would.

Personally, I think they are Hailey's remains but it is possible that Hailey is still waiting to be found.

john said...

OT..

Amanda Knox Told To Stay Away From Retrial.

A judge in Amanda Knox's home state says she should not return to Italy for her new trial over Meredith Kercher's murder.

An American judge who campaigned for the release of Amanda Knox has told Sky News she "may" return to Italy to face renewed proceedings - but that he would recommend she stay away.

Michael Heavey, a Superior Court judge in Knox's home state of Washington, says he is disappointed but not surprised that the Italian Supreme Court has ordered a retrial for her and former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito.

The couple were released by an appeals court 18 months ago after it found fault with their convictions for murdering the British exchange student Meredith Kercher at the home she and Knox shared in Perugia in 2007.

Judge Heavey, who attracted criticism for writing to the Italian authorities about the case while still serving in his role in the US, says he remains convinced the couple are innocent and that the prosecution case is flawed.


Meredith Kercher was killed in 2007
When asked if Knox might return to Italy for any part of the new proceedings, he said: "She may. The intelligentsia of Italy knows she is absolutely innocent.

"But a good proportion of the population, because of what's called confirmation bias, what they've been told so many times, they can't tell you why, but they think she's guilty and that is not a healthy climate for her to be in."

He said he would not criticise the Italian judicial system - and that the US has its own examples of such mistakes being made - but added that he believed the case was set to drag on for years.

He said: "It is terribly disappointing. You just feel like you have been kicked in the stomach. My heart goes out to Amanda and Raffaele and their families for what they're going to have to go through. The nightmare continues."

No-one in the Knox camp has commented on whether she plans to return to Italy for the retrial. If she were to be convicted and that conviction upheld, Italy could seek her extradition from the United States.


A 'Free Amanda Knox' sticker on a car outside her Seattle home
One Knox lawyer in Italy has said he does not believe she will attend the trial, which is her right under Italian law.

Since the Supreme Court announcement, Amanda Knox has been keeping a low profile in her home city of Seattle. Members of her family politely told reporters outside their home in the Arbor Heights suburb they would not be commenting on the developments.

The 25-year-old has returned to complete her studies at the University of Washington and it is reported she plans to go ahead with a television interview next month to promote a book about the case.

Five thousand miles away from Seattle, a woman claiming to be the new girlfriend of Sollecito told reporters at his apartment that the couple planned to move to Switzerland. She confirmed that he and Knox had spoken to each other about the Supreme Court decision.

http://news.sky.com/story/1070240/amanda-knox-told-to-stay-away-from-retrial

Hobnob said...

They will have to drag her back to Italy kicking and screaming if she is found guilty.

I wonder how much the judge was paid to spin hi spiel.

I wonder if the station will go ahead with her inerview given she is facing retrial especially as anything she says may possibly be used against her.


I also wonder what sollecito is doing right now given he and knox are no longer bumping uglies, will his attorney say blame knox you don't owe her anything and you can bet your ass she is going to throw you under the bus.
Whilst they were boinking and both in italy they had to stick to the same story, now she is in the States and doing all she can to stay there, sollecito is in a precarious position.
If the prosecution offer him a deal say time served or a lesser sentence that originally given i bet he will roll.

john said...

Hobs,

Bumping Uglies.

I have heard that saying for years,i nearly choked on my coffee when i read that.lol

Anonymous said...

Food for thought:

David Dunn chose to move with his mother to Austin and he chose to do so knowing Shawn would be there and David chose to frequently hang out with Shawn during his time in Austin

This means either David Dunn is complicit in whatever happened to Hailey or Billie Jean and Shawn are innocent

Local anon said...

I do hope theye are close to identifying the remains as Hailey's. It is an interesting perspective that Shawn may have placed her remains in more than one location. I don't see him as being that enterprising to take the time and effort. He would have to do it before LE was looking at him as a suspect/POI because he and Billie were under the watchful eye of LE and the communinity. I have always wondered what David had to say and do in all of this. He never serached for Hailey, and that upset Clint. I find his not searching odd.

Anonymous said...

i think the remains are Haileys. I am not sure what bones were found, but it would seem to me that by now, even without conclusively determining whether or not it's Hailey, the medical examiner should be able to tell if the remains are male or female, and the approximate age of the victim. I think the delay in a public announcement speaks volumes. It would seem that all LE agencies are making sure that every "i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed before the findings are made official and a public announcement is made. Of course, the theory that the body was, at least at one time, underwater may have affected the condition that the remainds were found in, but I doubt it. Again, the silence is heavy. And I think the rubber is about to hit the road for BJD and SA.

Anonymous said...

I read this blog because i am conservative. It may be time i take a break. Enjoy potty mouth people!

Anonymous said...

And it could be that LE knows it's Hailey and have gone to the DA with their findings BEFORE it becomes public knowledge, so that a secret indictment could be handed down, reducing the probability of BJD and SA becoming flight risks. I believe that by now, the ME examiner has reached its conclusion, but said conclusion is being withheld for a specific and profound reason.

Dee said...

Anonymous said...
Food for thought:

"David Dunn chose to move with his mother to Austin and he chose to do so knowing Shawn would be there and David chose to frequently hang out with Shawn during his time in Austin

This means either David Dunn is complicit in whatever happened to Hailey or Billie Jean and Shawn are innocent"

Local anon said...
"I have always wondered what David had to say and do in all of this. He never serached for Hailey, and that upset Clint. I find his not searching odd."

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Anon and Local Anon...David's behavior is "off". As her big brother, his lack of concern is disconcerting. Him not searching for his sister or worrying over her and just going on with his video game playing life makes me think he knew what was up and knew it was pointless. I've often wondered what his knowledge and/or involvement was. Compare David's behavior with that of Dylan Redwine's brother to see how a concerned sibling normally reacts. There's no comparison.

Local anon said...

I agree, no comparison

Anonymous said...

I second that, Dee, Anon & local Anon. There's a vast difference in comparisons between David Dunn's behavior and lack of caring; and that of Cory Redwine in his brother Dylan's death.

I wondered from the beginning why David had no reaction one way or the other. Sure he was underage at the time and supposedly media wasn't supposed to question him; but did LE question him? And if not, why not? If so, why no comments about their interviews?

Regardless, one has feelings but David has shown none other than to run home to killer mommie and her killer boyfriend. It DOES make one wonder.

I'm starting to wonder now if David even went home like he said he did the last night Hailey was supposedly seen by him at 9:00 p.m., or the next day either when he suppposedly went home at 3:00 p.m. Did he? Maybe so. But did he also have some involvement in Hailey's disappearance?

This I do believe: Shawn had some help in disposing of Hailey, whether it was done the night Billie claims to have last seen her on the 26th, or whether it was done the next day when Shawn was out roaming around all over the countryside. Did he have an accomplice? I think he did.

Another Anon

Anonymous said...

Perhaps he's traumatized and has, at least to some degree, shut down emotionally. Or perhaps he is does drugs, and/or is exposed to porn regularly and for that reason has decided to "side" with BJD and/or SA. Perhaps he bonded with SA because his real dad is in prison. The possibilities are endless. But for some reason, it appears he's chosen to keep quiet. Maybe SA told him that if he talked, the same thing would happen to him. In that dysfunctional family, who knows?

Anonymous said...

I am not an expert on the facts but I have followed since the day Hailey was reported missing. LE did interview David as well as Hailey's friends. David did return to the house and bang on the door and crawl through a window to find Shawn inside with what David called "a deer in headlights look". If memory serves, his friend was with him. I have always wondered if David thought at the time that Hailey ran away, maybe someplace he hoped was safer than home, and they would hear from her in a few days to say she was ok. I too thought Shawn may have threatened him and he was terrified.I suspect we'll never know. I do think his behaviour is odd but sure can't identify why.

Local anon said...

I thought I had signed as local anon in my 2:20 post. Sorry about that. Local anon

Skeptical said...

Peter has said to pay attention to what BJD says. In her own way she tells the truth.

She said everyone got what they wanted for Christmas. What did Shawn want? Hailey, a video with Hailey, a porn video of him, BJD, and Hailey. With the information that he and BJD are possibly in a Satanic organization, could it be even worse.

I wonder if David was told to go to his friend's house that night so BJD could give her "gift" to Shawn - Hailey.

The fact that she was likely still in her bed the next morning is concerning. If she died during the early hours of the night, was it inconvenient to dispose of her body during the night or did they make Hailey suffer until the early hours of the morning until she died?

BostonLady said...

One thing to keep in mind about David Dunn is that he was removed from the home by CPS. Billie stated she voluntarily gave David to her brother Roger but CPS pushed this. Billie signed the papers to have David live with his uncle Roger. When Billie first moved to Austin in 2011, she left David behind. She and Shawn moved in together in Austin. Then in March 2012, when the male body was found in Big Spring, Billie made Shawn go back to his family in Big Spring. Billie returned to Austin and then I believe David joined her when he finished school. I don't think Shawn and David were in Austin at the same time.

I always thought that Billie was protecting David from the media and the search for his sister because of his age. Now, I'm not so sure.

Local anon said...

Excellent points Boston lady. I had forgotten that history on David. Thank you

Anonymous said...

I don't think Shawn and David were in Austin at the same time.

Yes they were, there are pics of them together and a blog entry on this site about Billie and Shawn and David together at a concert and there are pics of the three of them together at that concert which Billie posted on her facebook page

Anonymous said...

My thoughts parallel yours Skeptical, in wondering if DJB sent David to his friends' house that evening so she could 'give' Hailey to Shawn for Christmas; like you said, BJD said everyone got prety much what they wanted for Christmas.

We all know Shawn wanted Hailey so bad he paced by her room night after night while she watched his shadow under her bedroom door and lived in dreaded fear of him, frequently trying to sleep on the couch so she could get away quickly if she had too.

What we don't know, is, was there someone else there that night who participated in this violent and deadly abuse and rape of Hailey? Nothing would surprise me where Billie Dunn and her disgusting sex frenzies are involved or who with.

I am not convinced at all that Billie looked into Hailey's room that morning to see if she was in bed, thought she was since she saw the shadow outline on the bed but did not go in or touch her. BS. This is just another one of Billie's thinly veiled long lies.

Besides, if Hailey had died sometime during the night and had lain on the bed any length of time she would have already started to decompose. Billie would have a remedy for that too; wash the bedclothes right along with Shawn's bloody work overalls he wore when he and Billie (and whoever) dumped Hailey, Billie's too, the clothes Shawn and Billie were wearing when they killed Hailey and any other evidence. One big washerload, remake the bed, everything all nice and fresh and no decomp odor.

AcmeClementon said...

Billie Jean Dunn checked Hailey's room to make sure Hailey was still dead in bed....

Hobnob said...

If Hailey died sometime during the night and lay in her bed for 90 mins plus there would be cadaverine on her bedding and possibly the mattress as well.

After 90 mins or death minimum ( maybe sooner depending on manner of death and environmental conditions, anything Hailey's body came into contact with, no matter how briefly, there will be traces of cadaverine.

Have cadaver dogs been used in the house, surrounding buildings , buildings both had access to, the surrounding grounds, any vehicles they had access to, bedding and clothing, even items they have touched after touching/manhandling Hailey?

I would be interested to know of any explanations they had when asked why would dogs detect cadaverine?

I also wonder if they have used luminol or other blood revealing chemicals in the above places?

Shawn loves knives and i can see it being part of his role playing in the murder of Hailey.
He also told us it was like killing a deer which would fit in with his M.O and that of his on screen heroes and also suggest dismemberment of her remains.

His hero michael myers kills his victims in all sorts of gruesome ways and doesn't bother about concealing them, he wants everyone to know he is around so he leaves his bodies in plain sight, i wonder if shawn did the same sort of thing, left her in the open (although concealed by vegetation) i also suspect he will have visited her remains to gloat and to relive the crime,

Lemon said...

Thank you Hobs for the facts regarding cadaverine.

BostonLady said...

Anonymous said...

I don't think Shawn and David were in Austin at the same time.

Yes they were, there are pics of them together and a blog entry on this site about Billie and Shawn and David together at a concert and there are pics of the three of them together at that concert which Billie posted on her facebook page

March 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM

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The concert was Mushroom Head and Billie went with David Dunn. Shawn was not with them. Shawn did attend a Mushroom Head show but it was not the same one Billie & David attended. This was proven out by the pics taken with the group members. The background was not the same.

Anonymous said...

This link states the bones belong to a male.
http://everythinglubbock.com/fulltext?nxd_id=102312

Anonymous said...

Ignore the previous comment. The date states March 23, 2012.

MizzMarple said...

Anonymous said...

Food for thought:

David Dunn chose to move with his mother to Austin and he chose to do so knowing Shawn would be there and David chose to frequently hang out with Shawn during his time in Austin

This means either David Dunn is complicit in whatever happened to Hailey or Billie Jean and Shawn are innocent

March 27, 2013 at 7:34 AM
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I have always felt that there was something "hinky" about David, Hailey's brother -- I just can't figure him out -- but definitely hinky!

IIRC, wasn't David the one who said that Shawn had the "deer in the headlights" look when Shawn returned to Billie's house ?

Please correct me if I have this inaccurate ...

Thanks.

MizzMarple said...

OT..

Amanda Knox Told To Stay Away From Retrial.

A judge in Amanda Knox's home state says she should not return to Italy for her new trial over Meredith Kercher's murder.

An American judge who campaigned for the release of Amanda Knox has told Sky News she "may" return to Italy to face renewed proceedings - but that he would recommend she stay away.

Michael Heavey, a Superior Court judge in Knox's home state of Washington, says he is disappointed but not surprised that the Italian Supreme Court has ordered a retrial for her and former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito.
-----------------------------

This "judge" is out of line. He has been campaigning for Amanda for years now, and he KNOWS her case is out of the United States' jurisdiction.

He should be ashamed of himself ... no wonder our judicial system is failing here in the U.S. -- our own judges don't even know the laws !

There is an excellent article posted today at TJMK outlining the evidence and how the US media, as usual, is spinning this story to "favor" Knox.

Link is : http://truejustice.org

Hobnob said...

I wonder how the family are paying for all the spin gien they were bankrupt.



Has knox been given the advance already and she is spending it to spin her version of event and innocence?

Did she repay her family the money they spent on her defence and PR?

If she hasn't why not?

If she has, will the publishers put a stop on any monies due until the final verdict is in?

Should she be found guilty again will the publishers demand repayment of all the monies paid for her story of innocence?

If she has spent it how do they plan to recoup the money?

When found guilty will she then be prevented from profiting from her story (either the false claim of innocence or will she go for the shock horror yes i did it and here is why)

Can we expect her family to sell their story in order to recoup some of their losses to cover their own legal bills for slander as well as for bailing out knox?

My life with a killer sister/daughter, why we tried to protect the family honor from a sociopath/psychopath.

There is money to be made either from the claim of innocence which the sheeple will buy since it is a good old US of A girl in a corrupt Italian justice system or from he coming out and saying she did it and it was all because she had an abusive childhood/boyfriend/whatever.

I wonder if the reaction would be the same if it was an American girl killed in Italy by a british student and her italian lover, or an American girl killed in the UK by a italian girl and her british lover?

Is it that in homicides abroad the American must always be the victim even if they are the ones who committed the crime?

If this crime had happened exactly as it did in Perugia in the states, would they still be claiming she was innocent i wonder or would she be another casey anthony or jodie arias?

Anonymous said...

The concert was Mushroom Head and Billie went with David Dunn. Shawn was not with them

Pictures posted by Billie Jean Dunn on her facebook which were also posted on this site prove otherwise, pay attention already......