Sunday, April 21, 2013

Baby Ayla Case: Statement Analysis of Elisha DiPietro

I received the following statement that is said to have come from Elisha DiPietro.  Statement Analysis is in bold type.


  “ S I know I haven't written in a while but I feel this needs some clarification and I will provide some although I wont expand on all the details. Justins did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing. I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is something that I never want to relive. He did not leave the property that morning at all. The trip to Portland happened before she went missing.”

Here is the statement again, with analysis following:  

   S
“S” may be the recipient of the message, and if so (and not a typo), the “S” would be someone the subject knows.  The familiarity is evident in the abbreviation and “S” is likely the name or knick-name of someone known that begins with the same letter.
I know I haven't written in a while but
Where one begins a statement is often the reason for writing.  The subject acknowledges that she has not written “in a while”, which is not specific to time, and it is also written in the negative, making “not writing” important.  This suggests that the subject has had information to share but has chosen not to, previously, but something had provoked her into writing.  The word “but” is in contrast to not writing. 
By acknowledging that she “knows” she has not written suggests that people have wanted her to write, and to share information but she has not done so.  Here she is no longer wanting to remain silent, as she feels she has a reason to write.  She knows that she has not written, which may be that she understands that her audience has wanted to hear from her, and now, something has come up that she wants addressed.
This may be the reason for writing, with “but” the ‘overruling’ factor, refuting not writing as now she has a reason:
I feel this needs some clarification
This is the key sentence and she will now present why she has written.
1.              “I feel” is a weak assertion.  She recognizes that she might “feel” differently, or someone else might “feel” differently.  She began with the pronoun, “I”, but immediately weakened it with “feel.”
2.              Clarification
3.              Some
The information she is going to give is not to correct what is known, but is only to “clarify” or make clear, and this, itself, is weakened by the word “some.”
This is to admit that the information is essentially correct, but only that she “feels” that it may need “some” clarification; not “clarification”, but only “some.”  It does not need correction, but only that it may (and it may not) need to be made clear.

This is information that should be considered correct, with only some of it needing to be in better focus.  In Statement Analysis we allow the subject to guide us; that is, total belief in the subject.
She is not correcting wrong information, or refuting false information, she is only bring “some” clarity, which may or may not even be necessary (“I feel”)
and I will provide some
Here she will provide only “some” clarification to her recipient audience. This indicates that she is going to deliberate limit her clarification.  A clarification is not a correction or refudiation.
although I wont expand on all the details.
In clarifying only “some” things, she will not “expand” or enlarge upon “all” the details.  This is consistent with only “some” clarification.
Another key word is the article, “the”
She calls the information in need of “some clarification” the “details”
They are “the” details, and not false information.
The subject is presupposing that the details are true, but some may need, she feels, to be made clearer.  The recipient should not consider the information addressed as “the details” and should consider “the details” to be factual and correct, and only in need of being able to see them more clearly. 
The subject is telling us the “details” are true. 
Justins did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing.
Do not interpret, but listen to her:
Justin did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing.
We have “the” and “any” and we have it delivered to a specific time period: the morning.
Please note that she uses the phrase “we” reported Ayla missing. This pronoun is essential.
Either:  all three were on the phone to police, or there is deception present.  “we” reporting Ayla missing means that they were in concert, or agreement:  if the 911 call does not contain all three voices, deception is present.
The speaker has a need to share the responsibility of the call with others.
Note that “the morning” does not mean that Justin did not take a trip overnight, or in the morning before “we” reported her missing.
Note that there are two portions of speech that are exempt from Personal, Subjective Internal dictionaries:  pronouns and articles. 
Pronouns are used from childhood on up and are highly reliable.  Articles (“the, a, an”) are instinctive and reliable.  When there is a confusion in pronouns or articles, it is likely that deception is present.
Here, we have two indicators of possible deception:
“the” and “any” as well as the pronoun “we” reported.  “The” and “any” show a change in language where “the” trip may not have been able to say, without the internal stress of lying, but “any” would then become more vague, reducing the stress of lying.
It is unlikely that all three made the initial report to police, indicating a likely deception, but that the pronoun “we” is used, showed that there is a connection among the three.  This is likely the three that have conspired to stay to the same story.
It should also be understood that these are the “details” of the case she addresses as in need of “some” clarity.
She claims he did not go on the, any trip, which is something that she only “feels” needs “some” clarification.  If one did not go, the “detail” would be incorrect, or a lie.  She does not say so, but affirms that these details are true, but only in need of clarity.
This should be considered a deceptive point in an attempt by the writer to deceive, while not wanting to lie outright.
I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is something that I never want to relive.
Please note that she reports that she will never forget this but does not say what his reaction was.  This should be considered suspect: she wants the audience to be impressed by what she saw, but she did not say what she saw.
SCAN deals with what people say, and what people do not say.  Here she does not tell us that he was in panic, pain, helplessness, or anything else; only that she will not forget. 
She does not attempt to bring any clarification but may want the audience to feel as if this was something impressive but does not give any detail.  This is not to expand or explain or clarify anything and should be considered deceptively attempting to persuade rather than truthfully report.
What she saw, she does not want to reveal, but would prefer that the reader interpret her words.  This should cause the reader to consider that the subject knows that his facial reaction was not something that would help Justin's case, but hurt it, and increase suspicion.  There could be two types of panic:
1.  missing child
2.  panic over how to cover the crime 
It would be plain for her to choose number one, but direct lying is stressful and is avoided whenever possible. 
The reader should consider, carefully, why this sentence was added, without giving a single word to describe what she does not want to "relive."  
As to the word "relive" it is not "remembered" or "recalled" but "relived."  What did the subject experience that day in which she would never want to go through again?
Please compare this with prior analysis which showed that Elisha DiPietro was deceptive via withholding information, that her polygraph results are sensitive, and that police stated publicly that all "three" are deceptively withholding information.  This statement is consistent with what police said.  She may want to recall it, remember it, but not live through it again.  
No sane person would.  
He did not leave the property that morning at all.
Please note she reports in the negative and contradicts the report.
This does not bring “some” clarity to “the details” but seeks to refute it, while not being able to say “it is a lie that people said he went on a trip…”
Please note that “at all” is added and weakens the assertion.
Please note the distancing language of “that” morning.  The analyst should seek to enter her personal subject internal dictionary to learn if, while the sun was not yet up, if that is “night” and not “morning” to her. 
The analyst should seek to learn why the need for emphasis of “at all” is employed and why she affirmed “the details” to begin, and only “felt” that they needed “some” clarification, and not refutation.
This is a deceptive statement.
The trip to Portland happened before she went missing.
It should be considered that Justin took the trip before the sun rose that morning.  This is likely a truthful statement, within a deceptive letter.  Here it is “the” trip, which is consistent with “the” details and is admitting that a trip did, in fact, take place. 
She avoids saying when the trip took place and employs passive language.  Passivity in language is used to conceal or hide identity or responsibility.  She is being deliberately vague about the time period of the trip which should cause the analyst to consider that she does not, deliberately, say when or what time the trip was, while she knows this would end any controversy.
This is a parsing of words, seeking to be technically accurate, while being deceptive. 
She gives herself away.
1.        She calls his trip “the details”
2.        She says that these details might need some clarity
3.        She does not say he did not make a trip but only limits the time period
4.        She then affirms, again, that a trip took place while avoiding (withholding information) about when the trip was.
She is deliberately deceptive about the trip Justin took just prior to the report of Ayla’s disappearance.                 Deception indicated. 

53 comments:

Trigger said...

"The trip to Portland happened before she went missing."

Elisha does not say who went with Justin to Portland.

According to Elisha, Justin, and Courney, Alya went missing in the night, so Justin would have had time to make sure that Ayla was missing by morning.

mountain mama said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed"

We can't assume that Justin "finding out his daughter was not in her bed" means this is when Elisha or Courtney told him Ayla was missing. If Justin found an injured or deceased Ayla beside his bed (where Ayla's blood was found cleaned up) would this not also be a way that Justin found out "his daughter was not in her bed"?

Peter does the word "leave" have the same significance as the word "left"?

John P said...

“S” may be the recipient of the message, and if so (and not a typo), the “S” would be someone the subject knows. The familiarity is evident in the abbreviation and “S” is likely the name or knick-name of someone known that begins with the same letter.

Peter, there was a regular commenter on the Lies blog that used the alias "S."! I believe that this is who Elisha intended this comment for?

john said...

OT..

The Radio show with BJD has started.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/missingandexploited/2013/04/21/angels-on-air

john said...

She has just talked for about 4mins,she is coming back on soon..

john said...

They have lost contact with BJD and other guest's and are going to Schedule another show..

John P said...

By saying "The trip to Portland happened before she went missing." Elisha is adding confussion rather than clarifying. Now the trip could have happened on any day at any time before the 17th of Dec.

Anonymous said...

Who could have predicted that something would prevent BD from following through with the guest appearance?! Just a happy coincidence.

John P said...

Justin did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing.

When did "we" report Ayla missing? I thought there were three calls between Justin and 911. Did Elisha and Courtney make calls to 911 that we are unaware of?

shmi said...

Billie Dunn is an advocate? For what?
The interviewers really kissed up to her.

Billie said what really helps her is advocating for other people.

In what way?

Lemon said...

shmi-
She is an advocate for violence if you cross her, does this count?

JerseyJane said...

Hmmmmm.... The devil's advocate!

Champion and still Undefeated....

Baby Girl Hailey gonna knock momma OUT!!

I am cheering on JUSTICE!!!
Commmmme onnnnn, JUSTICE!!!

JerseyJane said...

Advocate for Avocados... So she can get her next man at a supermarket?

Don't get me started! Bahahahaha!!

Nervous said...

On NBC’s ``Meet the Press,’’ Patrick said surveillance video showed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev dropping a backpack and walking away before the second bomb exploded.

‘‘It does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion,’’ Patrick said. ‘‘It’s pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly.’’

John P said...

"He did not leave the property that morning at all."

I find this barbaric and monsterous! Why would he not be running all over that neighborhood looking, why would he not be beating on doors asking if anyone saw Ayla, and why not yelling up and down the streets for his missing angel? This is clearly Elisha questioning Justin's inactivity that morning, or trying to justify his inactivity because she already knew why? I am not sure which but I am leaning towards her having a full knowledge of what occured and why.

john said...

OT.

How time passes so quickly.

Dylan Redwine Missing for Five Months

It's been five months since the 13-year-old Colorado boy vanished from his father's rural home, and it doesn't appear that anyone in the media is commemorating this. It also seems that media interest in Dylan's disappearance has dwindled in general when the child is still missing and the details behind his disappearance are still extremely suspicious.


On the official Facebook page dedicated to spreading awareness about his case, loved ones discussed the five-month mark of his disappearance.

"We are inching toward 6 months, a half of a year. It's wrong, Dylan should be home. His mother's heart should [not] continue to ache, longing to know where her baby is."

Neither of the missing teen's parents have spoken out on the fifth day of his disappearance, but that is nothing new for Mark Redwine (his father). Mark has famously avoided media attention since Dylan vanished, and has even refused to take part in coordinated searches and vigils. He has blamed his absence on "not being invited" to the events—as if a parent requires an invitation for such a thing. His last media appearance was on Dr. Phil where he backed out of taking a polygraph test to clear his name in this case.

Will Dylan Redwine be found soon, or will there be another five to six months of questions without answers? Regardless of the days that pass between now and when he's found, those who are devoted to the search will likely never relent.http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981871881

BostonLady said...

I bet Elisha does not want to relive what happened in that house. And, I'm sure seeing her brother hiding in the bathroom, not wanting to speak to LE to report his daughter missing was another Hallmark family moment.

JerseyJane said...

John, you found the slip of the tongue......which also MAY give a definition to HOW JP reacted which Elisha did NOT include in the paragraph....

Sounds to me ALL is CALM on the HOMEFRONT! Minus of course, his play-acting-I-can't-come-out-of-the-bathroom and possible fake crybaby 911 call (my guess for 911 call).

Peter Hyatt said...

John's comment is well noted and makes sense.

Anyone would have run from house to house looking...

It is not "statement analysis" but commentary and it is both pithy and wise.

thanks, John, for an insightful post.

This is why public forums can be so very useful for law enforcement: many minds.

Peter Hyatt said...

"the trip to Portland" is passive: she wishes to conceal information about it, but telegraphs this leakage via passivity.

None of us can hide from truth. Training does not exempt anyone from language.

The issue can be:

Why the need to deceive?

elf said...

Isn't the statement 'before she went missing' placing blame? Ayla obviously did not pack her diaper bag and say I'm blowing this place. The scenario Justin & Co. wants us to believe is that Ayla was abducted, true? So wouldn't the family of a missing/endangered child be 'before Ayla was taken(abducted)?

BostonLady said...

shmi said...

Billie Dunn is an advocate? For what?
The interviewers really kissed up to her.

Billie said what really helps her is advocating for other people.

In what way?

April 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Blogger Lemon said...

shmi-
She is an advocate for violence if you cross her, does this count?

April 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

******

Darn, I missed it ! Although, doesn't sound like I missed much.

Billie advocates for other people? What "other" people? The thong man on 6th street? Mushroom Head?

I like Lemon's comment ! I'd like to add that some of Billie's slogans are "Snitches Get Stitches" and "Eat My Fist" .

mountain mama said...

"He did not leave the property that morning at all."

Yea I don't think Phoebe needed to worry about Justin going around kicking in people's doors.

Dee said...

Elisha, in the first part of her comment, uses I consistently. Here in this part -" Justins did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing." - she switches to"we" making the reporting of Ayla missing sensitive to her.
I'd also like to know what her definition of morning is. Is it after the sun comes up?

mountain mama said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is something that I never want to relive."

"his daughter" sounds distant. Why didn't she say, "finding out Ayla was not in her bed" or "finding out my niece was not in her bed"?

Light The Way said...

The trip to Portland happened before she "went missing."

Ummm... The trip to Portland UNDOUBTEDLY happened BEFORE Ayla "WENT" missing...

They knew EXACTLY where Ayla's body was before Justin left with it in his vehicle to discard like trash.

I mean WHO reports their murdered child "missing" BEFORE disposing of her body.
Even the DiPs can get that much right.

mountain mama said...

"Justins did not take the any trip the morning we reported Ayla missing. He did not leave the property that morning at all. The trip to Portland happened before she went missing.”

Why the switch from "the morning we reported her missing" to "happened before she went missing"? Is there a difference between when Ayla went missing and when they reported her missing?

veruca said...

Damn it.JJ...ya made me giggle.

veruca said...

Yeah you would think they would. But they'd have to be innocent to say that kinda truthy shit. Lol

Lis said...

This little note removes all doubt- Elisha is complicit in what happened. It is typical of the attitude of the whole group: they want to lie and deceive and yet not be judged as bad people by the public. They cannot have it both ways. The world can easily see that they are lying and covering up something very bad. Trying to salvage their public images at the same time is futile.

I think Elf had a good point- 'before she went missing' puts the responsibility on Ayla for having gone missing, as though it was her fault. It's also passive language, avoiding naming what happened to Ayla or who caused it.

Ayla 'not being in her bed' could also apply if only Ayla's lifeless body was in her bed and Ayla, herself, was no longer present.

Lis said...

Light the Way- exactly!

MotherofDragons said...

When I began reading the analysis, I had to stop at the first sentence and doubletake.

"I recieved the following statement that is said to have come from Elisha DiPietro."

I am geniunely curious. Did this statement come from Elisha DiPietro? Yes or no.

John P said...

Peter, or someone more familiar than I am with SA, can you help me out with this sentence.

Elisha says “He did not leave the property that morning at all.” She does not say no-one left the property, just that Justin did not. If she did not say it we can not say it for her, correct? So could being saying instead that she or Courtney did leave the property? Could Elisha be admitting to disposing of evidence with this comment?

John P said...

Sorry Peter, I posted this same question on my blog hoping I am not reading to much into it. I am sure I will get a response from someone much more savy with SA than I!

Yukari said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed"

Reading that sentence, the first thing that came to my mind was a picture of a little girl waking up at night, alone, in this house where she was forced to stay but unwelcome, and going to look for mummy. Finding Justin instead, the sperm donor from hell, perhaps in bed with Courtney. Justin gets in a rage because of being disturbed, perhaps because Ayla cried or asked for her mommy. Perhaps Courtney got into a rage as well for the same reason.

Here in Cologne, there was a sad case recently where a little girl was killed by her mum´s boyfriend, because she cried. He tore her hair so roughly the scalp tore off and the poor little one died soon after. It does not happen in the US only, which is not much of a comfort. At all. In any case, I can picture a situation like that with Justin and Courtney.

Peter Hyatt said...

"At all" is unnecessary and weakens the statement.

Peter Hyatt said...

Given the overall deception and the words "that morning" and "at all" and were to bet that Justin made that trip before the sun came up, you'd win your bet.

john said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is (SOMETHING THAT I NEVER WANT TO RELIVE.")

This part of her statement seems to me,an over reaction to his reaction,or could it be that its her, who doesn't want to relive what she knows has happened.

mountain mama said...

John said...
"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is (SOMETHING THAT I NEVER WANT TO RELIVE.")

This part of her statement seems to me,an over reaction to his reaction,or could it be that its her, who doesn't want to relive what she knows has happened.

*** Did Justin blame Elisha for whatever happened to Ayla? Is that why she said "his daughter"? In other words...his responsibility, not Elisha's.

Dee said...

I wanted to give Elisha the benefit of the doubt but every time she opens her mouth she makes me more certain she's fully involved.

LawAbiding said...

Justice for Ayla. What's taking so long? :(

elf said...

Did Justin not take the trip or did Justin not take any trip? I feel like she meant to say any but the word the maybe slipped out into her language as she was typing. I think she is telling the truth that Justin did not take THE TRIP that morning. The trip was made the night before. While 12:01 am is indeed 'morning's by definition I believe the majority of people feel morning is after the sun has risen.
The topic of this communication is about Justin's trip/non trip. It changes to a brief and vague discription of Justin's reaction to seeing Ayla not in her bed, emphasis on his daughter (personally I think she's trying to humanize him in the readers/recipient eyes). She ends the communication by going back to the purpose of the communication (the trip/non trip) and finalized the communication in an attempt to shift blame to Ayla(she went missing).

S + K Mum said...

'I will provide SOME (clarification) but won't expand on ALL the details'

What details?

1.How Ayla came to be 'not in her bed'?
2. How Ayla came to be 'missing'?
3. What was Justin's trip to Portland for?

I don't understand how these people get away with it.

TrishapatK said...

I think this is a good example of people telling partial truths because it is so uncomfortable to tell an outright lie.
She is providing clarification and she is giving us SOME detail ... She may be technically telling "a" truth since she is differentiating between morning and night by the amount of light there is and if the trip happened when it was dark it was night by that definition he didn't take the/any trip that morning.
It seems like everything she said could be true - true but intentionally misleading ... we just don't know all the OTHER details and she sure isn't going to expand upon those one, the ones that would tell the whole story.
I think it weighs on her though, she seems torn between talking about it to disprove what has been discovered and just telling us what did happen. In the processbut she is subconsciously telling truths about it. I suppose that is what Statement Analysis is all about.

Peter Hyatt said...

Good point, Trish,

It is even the need to parse words and be technically truthful that shows the point of deception.

A few "clarifying" questions about what constitutes "morning" from her own lips would sink her.

This is why I concluded deception.

Good post,

Peter

Anonymous said...

John P said...
“S” may be the recipient of the message, and if so (and not a typo), the “S” would be someone the subject knows. The familiarity is evident in the abbreviation and “S” is likely the name or knick-name of someone known that begins with the same letter.

Peter, there was a regular commenter on the Lies blog that used the alias "S."! I believe that this is who Elisha intended this comment for?

April 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM
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S is Phoebe's sister/Justin's Aunt Selena

Lemon said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed and it is something that I never want to relive."
__________

Is "not in her bed" a euphemism a la Dipietro for "dead"?

Anonymous said...

LE in this case are worse than the LE in the Hailey Dunn case

The LE admit they have ample blood circumstantially indicating crime

The LE admit they have other circumstantial evidence conclusively proving death

So hand the evidence over to a Grand Jury already and stop f--ing around already

BostonLady said...

Anonymous 8:32, I don't believe it is LE in Baby Ayla's case that is the hold up. It has been rumored that the D.A. would not bring this case forward. However, there is a new D.A. in town and they are hoping this one will.

Hopefully. I'm so tired of reading about all of these children not being provided the justice they deserve.

Quincy Mom said...

My overall impression is always that of deception from anyone involved with the paternal side, so I'm aware that my analysis is bias. What really sticks out for me is Elisha's use of the phrase "the morning we reported Ayla missing." For some reason, this really called my attention.

I guess as a parent, *perhaps* that's how I would describe the details of such a tragedy, but it sounds too cold and calculating. I don't think that particular phrasing would come natural to me.

It's as if, that's how Elisha remembers the day: the day we reported Ayla missing. Not "when Ayla was taken from our home" (no control/unknown circumstances) but when "WE reported Ayla missing." They CONTROLLED the event. In her memory that is the day they decided, made a conscious, calculated decision to "report Ayla missing."

If I had a missing child, I don't think I'd remember the day she went missing as the day I reported it. I find that phrasing odd.

So sad that justice hasn't been served for this little girl. Keeping faith it will.

Dee said...

Quincy Mom said...It's as if, that's how Elisha remembers the day: the day we reported Ayla missing. Not "when Ayla was taken from our home" (no control/unknown circumstances) but when "WE reported Ayla missing." They CONTROLLED the event. In her memory that is the day they decided, made a conscious, calculated decision to "report Ayla missing."

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I caught the change from using "I" to the "We" in this part of the statement (sensitive - sharing blame)and I caught the "reported Ayla missing" as if that's not necessarily WHEN she went missing but when she was REPORTED missing. But something else in her statement was nagging at me. You nailed what it was when you wrote "when Ayla was taken from our home" (no control/unknown circumstances) but when "WE reported Ayla missing." They CONTROLLED the event. In her memory that is the day they decided, made a conscious, calculated decision to "report Ayla missing."

That was an aha moment and was the missing piece (control of the event, conscious decision) that was bugging me so much. Thank you Quincy Mom.

marietje said...

"I will never forget his reaction to finding out his daughter was not in her bed." Says to me poor little Ayla got up in the night as toddlers will do and Justin flew into a rage and killed her for being out of her bed. On another topic, I wonder if this will be a sweetheart interview as ABC producer did Knox family a favor. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/arts/television/amanda-knoxs-first-tv-interview-goes-to-diane-sawyer-of-abc.html

Anonymous said...

Mother of dragons,

"I am geniunely curious. Did this statement come from Elisha DiPietro? Yes or no"

?, who knows, but it makes for good fodder.