Saturday, April 20, 2013

Sexual Homicide: Hailey Dunn

When Billie Dunn's attorney threatened law suit, the opinion he targeted was one of sexual homicide, that I had posted.  Yet, I was, by no means, the only one who expressed this opinion.  By singling out this opinion, which was buttressed with statements made from the mother, the attorney brought more attention to the topic, with increased sensitivity.  

Why was there no angry response when this was first stated on national television?

In attempting to explain "sexual homicide" and language in the post "My Hypothesis", I sought to differentiate between a sexual homicide where all participants are engaged in sexual activity, and one who witnesses a homicide in which there was sexual activity.  This was only in regards to Statement Analysis, and may have caused more confusion than clarity.  In upcoming articles, I will clarify as to meaning. 

The hypothesis is here which is based, primarily on Statement Analysis, but also on Behavioral Analysis, and facts from the police affidavit.  Its base is similar to what I originally wrote which drew the ire of both Dunn and her attorney. 

Let's look at what may classify this, overall, as a "sexual homicide", even if not all participants were engaged in sexual activity.  

A caller identified as "Benay" (sic) "from New York" called the Nancy Grace Show in January of 2011 asked if Billie Dunn had felt jealousy over the attention Shawn Adkins gave Hailey.  

Please note that Hailey's grandmother had raised the issue first, claiming that she feared that Shawn Adkins had raped Hailey, and when Hailey threatened to tell, he killed her and the mother, Billie Dunn covered up for him. 

This would be a sexual homicide.  Billie Dunn's reaction was muted. By alleging this to be the case, it gives the subject the opportunity to deny the account.  The expected:

"It did not happen and I would not have covered up for him or anyone!" along with some anger.  Lillian Glass noted the lack of response during the show:  

"This is the first I'm hearing this. Why didn't nobody tell me?"

Dr. Glass later, while interviewed on our show, said that Billie Dunn may have viewed Hailey as a rival for Adkins' affections.  

A few nights later the issue was raised by a caller.  


Nancy Grace:  Out to the lines, Benay in New York. Hi, dear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, wonderful Nancy! I`d like to know if there`s any reason at all to believe that Hailey`s mother was so jealous of her boyfriend`s attention to Hailey that she (INAUDIBLE) behind Hailey`s disappearance?


GRACE: OK, hold on just one moment. Let me get this straight. Benay in New York, you`re asking is there a reason to believe that her mother, Billie Dunn, was so jealous over what?

Benay: Over -- over her boyfriend`s attention to Hailey.

GRACE:  So let`s go to the mom, Billie Dunn. What`s your response to Benay in New York that you were so jealous of your boyfriend`s attention to Hailey that you murdered her?

BILLIE DUNN: "Wow. I`m definitely not jealous of her. I`m so proud of her for how smart she is, how pretty she is, how funny she is. She didn`t get any special attention from Shawn."

GRACE: You know, another thing, Billie...

BILLIE DUNN: I`m not jealous at all.


Please note that the denial is in the present tense, but the caller (and the accusation) is specifically a past tense issue.  This is not a strong point, but it is noted.  More attention is called to the denial by the words, "definitely" and "at all"; making the denial sensitive. 

GRACE: ... when I see my husband, my family, my parents give attention, lavish attention on my children, the twins, I`m so happy.

NG projects her personal life into cases regularly, which is an interviewing mistake.  It is commonly done and can make it more difficult for the interviewer to understand and enter into the 'world' of a sociopath.  Analyst Kaaryn Gough speaks often of using visible imagery to enter into the "expected" versus the "unexpected."  John Douglas' books impressed me with his ability to attempt to think like a serial killer would think, though I believe there is an emotional and physical toll to be paid for such.  Safer is the distance that NG creates:  in her world, she rejoices over attention her children get.  Her world could not be any more different than the world that Hailey Dunn lived and died in. 

BILLIE DUNN: Yes.

GRACE: I`m so happy that someone wants to play with them, read to them, be with them. It makes you happy when you think someone`s showing interest...

BILLIE DUNN: Yes.

GRACE: ... and loving on them, and spending time with them. Doesn`t make me jealous. I`ve never picked up on that.


the more she speaks, the less information from the subject we get:  this is something investigative journalist should keep in mind. 

To Caryn Stark. Where would that theory even come from, Caryn Stark?

CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Because there definitely are, Nancy, women who are jealous of their teenage daughters. And I know that for you, it`s not the case. But it does sometimes happen that it makes them bemoan the fact that they`re getting older and that they`re not the same way. We`re not talking about a good mother or good parenting, but it does happen, particularly when they don`t have the right attention from a spouse.


Strong response. 

We rarely get this type of clarity from a guest.  It is usually a rush to see which guest can heap the most amount of praise upon the mother.  Because Nancy Grace injected her own life into the situation, the psychologist had to address that, as well, also limiting information that would have been relevant to the case.  


Note that Caryn Stark pointed out that BJD is "getting older" and she is not "the same" as she was when she was younger.  The pithy remark should have been followed up upon, just as the question from Benay from New York asked a pointed question. 


Next:


"Water" in sexual homicides, and as accurately pointed out by an astute reader, references were made which we will examine shortly. 

Also:  It would be interesting for "Benay" from New York to comment on what caused her, this early in the case, to ask such a strong question. 

Please note that I do not know if "Benay" is proper spelling, therefore the use of "sic" in the opening. 

129 comments:

Anonymous said...

They both look evil.

Anonymous said...

That's because they ARE evil.

Nanna Frances said...

Peter,

Thank you for all your hard work on this case and others. Billie's selfishness showed when she allowed a much younger man who had threathened her daughter move into the home. Billie was into her own needs and not those of her children.

Hobnob said...

BILLIE DUNN: "Wow. I`m definitely not jealous of her. I`m so proud of her for how smart she is, how pretty she is, how funny she is. She didn`t get any special attention from Shawn."

Present tense all the way through then ooopsie we have a past tense at the end.
She tells us she was jealous as hell of Hailey, this is why she has in effect taken over as hailey, wearing her clothes, dressing as a teen and the little girl voice.
She wants to be Hailey in order to keep shawniekins.

She didn`t get any special attention from Shawn."

Didn't not doesn't?

Oh dear billie, every time you open your mouth you dig a deeper hole for yourself.

You may be trying to distance yourself from shawniekins at the moment in an effort to cover your own butt.
If the remains are Hailey's then billie knows it is game over for her and loverboy.
I will bet she is talking to her lawyer, seeing what options are open to her and what kind of penalties she will face.
at a minimum child neglect since she allowed a man into her house who had made threats to kill herself and Hailey, drugs charges, child porn charges and so on.
She will throw shawniekins under the bus and will probably claim domestic violence as a defence saying he beat her, raped her abused her and she was too scared yadda yadda yadda.
She will do all she can to distance herself from the rape murder and disposal of Hailey although she then has to explain why she never physically searched, why she moved etc.

Shawn meanwhile will either go for death by cop as i see him as too cowardly to harm himself or he will throw billie under the bus and implicate her in everything.

I find he is hard to read, he will go one of two ways, death by cop ( leaving evidence , a confession etc to blame billie so she serves serious time) or i can see him bragging about it, taking the credit and identifying himself and living the fantasy as michael myers as per his post about going apeshit and killing some people whilst in costume. Right there is his confession.

As paedophile child killer should he get jailed his life will be miserable, it will shatter his fantasy and his heroes never got jailed, they never die.

He wants the infamy, the notoriety and may even have a nickname already chosen like all good killers do in real life and the movies.

it bothers me he said people not person , it makes me wonder if Hailey was his first victim, have there been missing people in the areas he frequents , especially young girls?
Are there missing people or homicides unsolved in scurry county or other areas he has lived or worked in?

Have animals gone missing or who have been found killed and probably tortured/ dismembered.

Hailey i think could have been the culmination of his fantasy and maybe billie's.

Hobnob said...

I was talking to Lemons and said incest is highly likely and sh agreed when i explained why.

Think about it it's logical.
they started off with normal sex
After a while it becomes jaded, more is needed to keep them excited so it progressed to role playing, deviant sex, maybe threesomes.
After a while it too becomes boring so in comes the videos till that too is boring.
Bestiality makes an appearance followed by the child porn, the only thing left is incest, one of the greatest tabboos and then finally a snuff movie perhaps.

I suggested to lemons this might be why she erased David from her thankyou letter.
Distancing herself from him which is highly unexpected.
Why the need to distance herself from him, to remove him from the scene?
Does she fear what he may say? if it is incest she will do serious time regardless of any other charges she will face, does she fear he may say what he knows in regard to th drugs, the debauchery, her involvement in Haileys murder and cover up?

She signed the letter using initial bd. this too is unexpected, she doesn't take ownership of the letter so we can't do it for her. We don't know that bd means n billie dunn.

The letter assumes she has been found which is why she distances herself from the thankyou.
She can't and won't thank everybody for finding Hailey if it is her as finding hailey's remains means the game is over.
She won't thanks those who are in effect slamming her ass in jail and probably facing the needle. You don't thank those who have in effect sentenced you to death

TrishapatK said...

Dear Peter,
For the last few days the video about Holly Bobo comes on as soon as I come open the blog. I can't figure out how to get rid of it myself. Is there anything about that video that is causing it to automatically start playing? if so, can you do anything to stop it?
Thank you!

Hobnob said...

off topic



Investigators and the mother of a missing nursing student say a purse found this week does not belong to Holly Bobo.

Karen Bobo, Holly’s mother, saw a photo of the purse and told investigators that she thought it belonged to her missing daughter. But Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said after Bobo saw it in person she realized it wasn’t Holly’s.

Neighborhood dogs had found the purse in the hills in west Tennessee Wednesday prompting a search for clues but nothing was found.

Bobo, a nursing student at the University of Tennessee at Martin, was last seen two years ago by her 25-year-old brother, Clint, who reported seeing her being taken into the woods by an unidentified man dressed in camouflage.

A massive hunt was launched for Bobo when she disappeared from her Darden home on April 13, 2011. Authorities used high-resolution underwater imaging to search lakes and ponds, as well as bloodhounds to scour rugged terrain -- in particular, Natchez Trace State Park

A small amount of blood was found in the family's carport, where Holly was believed taken from while on her way to school, police sources told FoxNews.com at the time of her disappearance.

Bobo's brother said he initially thought she was being taken into the woods by her boyfriend, but grew concerned when he saw the man's arm holding onto his sister. He called his mother, who then contacted 911, according to local reports.

Anyone with information on the woman's whereabouts is urged to call the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation at 1-800-TBI-FIND. The $250,000 reward is being offered for information leading to Bobo.

FoxNews.com’s Cristina Corbin and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/20/mom-says-purse-found-in-woods-does-not-belong-to-missing-daughter/#ixzz2R30v01sz

Hobnob said...

HI TrishapatK

it could that yo have bookmarked the page with the Holly Bobo so everytime you log into the blog it takes you that page.

If you bookmark this page >> http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/ then everytime you sign in, it will take you to the front page of Peter's blog and the newest posts rather than an old post.

I hope this is helpful

hugs and smooches to everyone xx

Anonymous said...

Shawn Adkins TOWERS in that photo

Just saying

In the photo, Billie Jean is not wearing a "Hope For Hailey" t-shirt at what I presume was a vigil for Hailey. And her jeans are torn and her shirt looks like an undershirt. Classy.

Hobnob said...

off topic BBM

PHOENIX – The legal guardian of a 10-year-old Arizona girl who died in 2011 after being padlocked in a footlocker by another family member pleaded guilty in the case Friday.

Cynthia Stoltzmann, 45, pleaded guilty to two counts of child abuse and one count of attempted child abuse,

Maricopa County prosecutors said. She will be sentenced June 6.


Stoltzmann was Ame Deal's aunt and guardian, but she wasn't charged in the girl's July 2011 death.

Instead, Stoltzmann was accused of throwing Deal into a cold swimming pool several months before the girl died and forcing her head underwater.

Stoltzmann also was accused of once sitting on the footlocker while Deal was inside the box for stealing food.


Four other Deal relatives face various charges in the case, including two of her cousins who are charged with first-degree murder.


Authorities said
Deal died after a man who is married to the girl's cousin padlocked her in the footlocker as discipline for having stolen popsicles. The girl was left in the plastic box all night and was found dead the next morning

at the Phoenix home where her relatives lived, authorities said.

Investigators said
the abuse heaped on Deal by some relatives also included forcing her to eat dog feces and crush aluminum cans with her bare feet.



Charges against one Deal relative were dismissed last week after prosecutors said there wasn't enough evidence to proceed.

That relative was accused of
scrubbing Deal's face with a wire brush as punishment for lying, kicking her in the face while she was on the ground, putting hot sauce in her mouth and spanking her with a belt.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/woman-accused-abusing-her-10-year-old-niece-in-phoenix-pleads-guilty-to-child/#ixzz2R32J9xfr


Poor baby.
I hope everyone who abused her is charged and sentenced to death or LWOP

Anonymous said...

SA's right hand slightly clinched in photo -- shows tension

stop_playing_dumb said...

Hobnob:

Very interesting about the incest topic. Would D also be part of this? She inflicted pain (and pleasure) when she gave him the tattoo. Were they sharing drugs too? Partying together? He hasn't acted "normally" through all of this either. Hmmmmm

Anonymous said...

Hobnob, I had never heard of this case until now. OMG this is heartbreaking. To think her own aunt and family members could treat a 10 year relative this way is beyond comprehension.

BostonLady said...

It is rumored that Billie showed up to every vigil not dressed appropriately. Someone always had to give her a Hailey's missing t shirt to put over her tight clothing. It's not surprising because Billie wanted to be the center of attention.

elf said...

How are you seeing that? His fingers are slightly curled, more in a relaxed position. A hand is either clenched or its not.

elf said...

Meow ladies.
I don't think critsizing the way Billie dresses is relevant and its a bit immature. The jeans that she is wearing in the photo above look like a pair of jeans I bought from aeropostle a couple years ago that cost nearly $80. Yes the holes came with them lol I do not see anything wrong with a tee shirt and jeans and a hoodie in any casual social setting. I dress in the same fashion myself. Why don't we stick to facts and stop the cattiness.

Lemon said...

OT- Bryeon Hunter
April 20, 2013 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- Prosecutors say a Maywood woman beat her son to death because he was 'crying and whining, then claimed he was abducted.

Lakesha Baker and her boyfriend Michael Scott are charged with first-degree murder in the death of 1-year-old Bryeon Hunter.

The boy was reported missing on Tuesday. Baker claimed three men attacked her and took off with the child. But prosecutors say Baker and Scott beat the boy then dumped his body. It has not been found.
"There's no reason to do anything to any child," said Maywood Police Chief Tim Curry. "They're innocent, they're helpless. But it's even more egregious that you can find it within yourself to hurt your own."

Saturday a judge ordered Baker held without bond and set bail at $750,000 for her boyfriend. Baker's lawyer says he's certain she'll be found not guilty.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9073261

JerseyJane said...

BJD 1st sentence: "Wow. I'm definitely not jealous of her."

BJD last sentence: " She didn't get any special attention from Shawn."


If you just look at these two sentences 1st and last from the paragraph, them there^ are fightin' words in the "He's MY man!..Not yours!" Girl's World....

It actually sounds like Billie did believe her competition was indeed Hailey. Last sentence is in the negative.. BJD adds the word "special" which is the highest form of attention. I believe BJD had to point that out(BJD's jealousy showing?). That word "special" is the tug-of-war word and BJD pulled the ownership of it to HER side.


BJD included in the middle of the paragraph traits of Hailey, it's easy for her to call out these traits, especially feeling she is solely responsible for them, as if she gifted them to Hailey. But BJD's jealousy keeps them on the down-low. Example: pretty vs. beautiful(which would reflect Hailey as an all-round wonderful young girl). But BJD isn't thinking of her Hailey as a daughter, more so a rival for Shawn's attention.

Anonymous said...

many mothers are jealous of their teenage daughters. it's common as hell. there's a fairy tail about it called snow white.

BostonLady said...

elf said...

Meow ladies.
I don't think critsizing the way Billie dresses is relevant and its a bit immature. The jeans that she is wearing in the photo above look like a pair of jeans I bought from aeropostle a couple years ago that cost nearly $80. Yes the holes came with them lol I do not see anything wrong with a tee shirt and jeans and a hoodie in any casual social setting. I dress in the same fashion myself. Why don't we stick to facts and stop the cattiness.

************

Excuse me elf, I am sticking to the facts and it is not catty. The point is that Billie never wanted to wear a Hailey T shirt because it was taking away from Billie being the center of attention. Even Carrie McGonigle had to intervene at one of the vigils to give her a Hailey t shirt because what she was wearing was inappropriate. I'm sorry you can't see that the way the mother dresses is most definitely related to this case. She has taken the money which was donated to get herself tattoos, piercings, highlights, etc.

This article being discussed does relate to Billie being jealous of Hailey and her dress is most definitely related.

You appear to be taking this personally as you have inserted yourself and compared yourself to Billie to state you wear the same jeans. That certainly takes away your ability to be objective.

ecossie possie said...


Statement Analysis is still fairly new in the criminal justice venue. It is not an absolute and we all know that. One of the premises of Statement Analysis is "less is more". When asked if you committed a crime an honest answer should be "no". To elaborate or add a flow of words before said "no" makes you look guilty according to the concept of Statement Analysis. That might fit some people but you cannot paint every person with that broad brush. If a person is nervous for any reason, they tend to rattle on. The cause for the nervousness could be the mere fact that they are being interviewed. People should take caution not to over analyze with Analysis or it can lead them to the wrong conclusion.

April 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM
@

True people can be nervous.
Never the less the most reliable answers are single word answers,

YES

NO

OFTEN

NEVER

SOMETIMES

And yes people in stressfull situations can either shut down.

Become Monotone through shock.

Or the opposite almost hyper...

Innocent people can babble an use lots of exteranious words instead of simpile.
Consice answers.

But guilty people are nervous for a different reason.
An they babble in a different manner .
They jump from subject to subject without rhyme nor reason an say things .

That dont quite mesh with the situation there encountering.
Forinstance a wife falls from a balcony.
And dies the husbands upset an when asked had his wife consumed any alchohol that evening.

Instead of yes or no he enters into a long spheil about how he was always telling her she drank to much/
An not to wear those stupid high heels/

After interveiwing the couples freinds neigh bours ect.
You hear that recently past few months

He is complaining about her excess drinkinghabits.
Strangley becuase her consumption was moderate an he apeared to be the one with the problem.

So guilty people over elebarate for differnt reasons from being in shock or denial.
Greif strken also over elabarate because they need to talk about the person they loved an have lost for ever.

scratch on his hand said...

maybe Shawn's hand was still tender from when the dog scratched it?

so which is it? said...

" She didn't get any special attention from Shawn."

SA treated me Really well.
Sa treated the kids well.

Anonymous said...

""Why don't we stick to facts and stop the cattiness""

Describing what Billie Jean wore at the vigil is defined as sticking to the facts, not cattiness

You responding with an off-topic ad homimen rant about the supposed respectability torn jeans is cattiness and sheer stupidity

What Billie and Shawn wore to the vigil should be scrutinized because what people wear on the outside mirrors what they feel on the inside

Shawn is labelled a sicko for wearing horrors masks and Michael Myers overalls and nobody complains

Billie is labelled classless for dressing like a slob and refusing to wear a vigil t-shirt and people scream "cattiness!"

You're a fucking idiot if you think what she wears bears no relation to the case

shmi said...

Please tell me the eyes were photoshopped!

JerseyJane said...

BJD 1st sentence: "Wow. I'm definitely not jealous of her."


REAL MEANING: BJD really said: " Are you serious? As she laughs..Did you look at me? Paa-leasssse are you for real?" As she goes down the line of her body with her hands and grabs her ass. "Seeee, everybody wants this??"

Sorry, folks. BJD projects this image of herself thru her OWN words flying out of her mouth. She has no problem using sexual references and violent words when she goes off on someone...
It's like she drags around a stripper pole as a prop!! LOL..Sorry, couldn't resisted,...the laughter stops when you think of all the destruction of others it caused/causes..... I find her behavior bizarre,so bizarre that it becomes played out and laughable that she continues...
You really don't have to address her clothing, it's so secondary to a much deeper troubling problem.

I'm very aware of what happened to Hailey, that's my point. It's mom that doesn't get it.....

elf said...

Actually if she wantedd to be the center of attention wouldn't it make sense that she WOULDNT wear a Hailey tshirt? She would stand out because she was the only one not wearing one. Or maybe she knew that everytime she appeared without one she would get another one. I do not think Billie Dunn is innocent of the murder of Hailey Dunn. I do not think Shawn Adkins is innocent of the murder of Hailey Dunn. I think I have been objective in looking at the facts and evidence presented for public confession. I know the fact that I said 'I think' is supposed to weaken my statement.

Anonymous said...

BostonLady said...
It is rumored that Billie showed up to every vigil not dressed appropriately. Someone always had to give her a Hailey's missing t shirt to put over her tight clothing. It's not surprising because Billie wanted to be the center of attention


I have seen many of your posts and I am wondering if you can explain something to me Bostonlady. You have continually said that BD is manipulative and is the overriding evil of the two. Yet you also say that BD does not dress appropriately etc. I am trying to figure out how it could be both ways. If BD is a manipulative person, wouldn't she manipulate every appearance that she makes to paint herself in the best light? If she is so evil that she killed her own child or helped cover it up, wouldn't she also know how to manipulate every public appearance? Wouldn't her interviews be polished? Wouldn't her attire be fitting of one who has a child missing? I see a lot of comments about how BD is the mastermind behind all of the perverted theories herein, yet I don't see a single explanation for why she cannot mastermind a public appearance to her advantage.

things you dont know said...

boston lady, in the photo heading this blog, Billie is not wearing a Hailey shirt.

and fyi, it was your friends that flipflopped that told Billie to wear a Hailey shirt instead of a dress at the vigil that Carrie did a presser afterwards and the van drove by.

BostonLady said...

elf, you didn't read what I wrote. The reason Billie did not wear a Hailey t shirt is exactly so she would stand out. Billie has to always be the center of attention.

Your comment that wearing a t shirt, jeans and a hoodie is fine for casual events is referencing yourself. This was not a casual event. It was a vigil for her missing daughter. Far far from casual.

Again with your last post, you are focusing on yourself and not on the subject of this discussion.

BostonLady said...

Anonymous 8:54 and things you don't know. Please re read my posts on the dress. It's very easy to follow. But here is a brief synopsis of what I stated.

Not wearing a Hailey t shirt - Mother wants to be center of attention

Wearing skin tight outfits to a spiritual vigil - Mother wants to be the center of attention

elf said...

As I read the topic 'sexual homicide' I did not see that Peter meant 'fashion critique'. Very sorry for expressing my opinion LADIES. (yea. Go ahead and make note of the dropped pronoun. I typed it that way for a reason.

elf said...

It went from "it is rumored" to it is fact.

elf said...

The word is hominem. You use big words to make yourself sound smart and almost pulled it off until you called me a 'fucking idiot'. I appreciate the effort and the attack on my statement that was meant as a constructive criticism though. Well done o ye narrow minded people.

BostonLady said...

elf, sensitive much? Please note my remark was towards the subject, your remark went right at the "ladies" discussing the subject. You stated:

"I dress in the same fashion myself. Why don't we stick to facts and stop the cattiness."

Take a step back and then you might see that this is your reaction to something stated about the subject of this discussion, which is not you. But, hmmm you certainly have made this about you. No one knows how you dress and I'd be surprised if anyone cares.

It is rumored about Carrie McGonigle. But it is a fact that Billie was given Hailey t shirts at the vigils because of what she chose to wear , that was inappropriate.

BostonLady said...

Back to the subject - Billie Jean - in addition to the sexual overtones, when she was trying to insult Peter Hyatt on facebook, she used sexual verbiage and violence.

It is all encompassing.

elf said...

I have never seen any person dress up for a candlelight vigil. Guilty or innocent.

Lemon said...

elf,
Boston's a respected poster who's been on this blog for years. Chillax, especially after what she has been through in the last week.

elf said...

**public consumption not confession. Predictive text.

Nanna Frances said...

elf,
If you are a young woman, dressing that way is acceptable. Have you even seen the program
"What Not to Wear"? It strongly suggest that people dress appropriately for their age.

BostonLady said...

Thanks Lemon ! It has been quite a week.

Nanna Frances, so glad to see you back!!

elf said...

Funny that you say that. I made my comment not only to her. I have no idea what anyone has been thru in the last week. I thought this was a public forum. Apparently I am mistaken. Am I not to be afforded the same respect as any other poster even if I have an opposing opinion? I made my statement in a light hearted fashion not degrading anyone and I got called a 'fucking idiot'. Nice to know this is an exclusive club.
I can't say that I was not warned that if I presented even the tiniest bit of an opposing opinion on Peters blog that I would be ripped to shreds.

elf said...

Hanna Frances no I haven't seen that show, it sounds interesting though. I just think its wrong to judge someone by their clothing. My point in comparing the way I dress to the way Billie is dressed :n the above photo is that some expensive clothes are made with holes in them. My attempt at levity was misunderstood. I see now by lemons words that I am not a respected poster so I will respectfully withdraw myself from this conversation before I get accused of being a Billie Dunn fan instead of an areopostle lover.

elf said...

Before I leave I want to say I agree with you.

JerseyJane said...

Different Spin:

Everytime BJD gets ready to go to a vigil she has to SEARCH for where she left her last Hope for Hailey t-shirt..

Oops, BILLIE DONT SEARCH...

Hence, the collection.
She is a collector of sorts, remember....

Now, that's what you call SAD..:-(((((((


Anonymous said...



elf said...
Funny that you say that. I made my comment not only to her. I have no idea what anyone has been thru in the last week. I thought this was a public forum. Apparently I am mistaken. Am I not to be afforded the same respect as any other poster even if I have an opposing opinion? I made my statement in a light hearted fashion not degrading anyone and I got called a 'fucking idiot'. Nice to know this is an exclusive club.
I can't say that I was not warned that if I presented even the tiniest bit of an opposing opinion on Peters blog that I would be ripped to shreds.

Elf, I for one appreciate your posts. You are one of the few who stick to the facts and do not constantly add "unconfirmed" statements. It is a recurring theme with Bostonlady to accuse BD of trying to be the center of attention. In some cases that may or may not be true, but if you have a preconceived notion about someone often times people will try to fit that square peg into the round hole. If BD wanted to be the center of attention at a vigil for her daughter, it would seem that she would be wearing something risqué, certainly not jeans and a hoodie.

Lemon said...

elf,
Language like calling you an idiot and anonymously indicates a troll. The regular posters here respect one another and do not call names. Neither do they accuse of cattiness.

We earn respect. My warning was to you was also for your sake, i.e. saying what you said to Boston will not help you. My reference to what she has been through is about her community, what Boston has been through with the bombings.

If there was an attempt by you at levity, and I misunderstood, my apologies.

Nanna Frances said...

elf,
Opposing views are welcome here.

Ugly name calling is not and that post will be removed.

who is jealous? said...

all i want to say, if you are a big fat ugly hog, please wear a moomoo if you absolutely have to go out in public. if you are HAWT, wear skin tight mini skirts everywhere.

Anonymous said...

who is jealous? said...
all i want to say, if you are a big fat ugly hog, please wear a moomoo if you absolutely have to go out in public. if you are HAWT, wear skin tight mini skirts everywhere.


Yep yep yep. The big fatsos are always the ones wearing the ugly tight dresses that show off every roll and then there are those big gross popped out veins and when people stare at them because they look so nasty then they get all butthurt and they should just wear a moomoo instead but they pretend in their own minds and maybe other peoples minds too that they are really thin and look good like that I guess.

BostonLady said...

Preconceived notions? No. Statement analysis on the specific article Peter posts brings about my response. Most of these articles have been posted and discussed before and what was stated before, for me, hasn't changed.

Billie will place herself first, before Hailey, as evidenced by her multiple statements over the past 2 + years. If you haven't seen those past articles, try reading them before passing judgement on me, personally.

Off to call Whine One One.

MissJustice said...

Seems like Billie Dunn really dislikes you and your blogs because you keep the pressure on her and Shawn. You are continuously posting your opinions and analyzing every word. This intimidates her. she fears you. Hopefully the pressure will soon be too much for her. JUSTICE FOR HAILEY!

Lis said...

Let's not argue amongst ourselves. We're all here to learn. People can have opinions one way or the other. Billie's clothing choices are not strictly statement analysis and I can see it can be a matter of opinion (although the photo with this article is definitely not her worst). Please do not call each other names or use profanity.

Anonymous said...

BostonLady said...
Preconceived notions? No. Statement analysis on the specific article Peter posts brings about my response. Most of these articles have been posted and discussed before and what was stated before, for me, hasn't changed.

Billie will place herself first, before Hailey, as evidenced by her multiple statements over the past 2 + years. If you haven't seen those past articles, try reading them before passing judgement on me, personally.



You still have not answered the question of how you can have it both ways. You consistently state that Billie is an evil, manipulative person who always has to be the center of attention, yet you have no answer for why she does not appear more polished in either interviews or public appearances. "Off to call Whine One One." Thanks for the laugh, my 5 year old used that line last week.

JerseyJane said...

BJD has her own reoccurring theme.....

No poster here or anywhere can give it to her, Anon. It can only be brought forth and discovered thru her language...
A diamond has many facets. Brainstorming positive( the obvious) as well as negative(a different look) brings forth wonderful discussions. We would get nowhere with everyone shaking their head up and down.

All opinions, thoughts, etc can stand on their own. That is all that should be seen. Only trolls are in charge of ugly. We, as posters, don't have time.

~ABC said...

Anon @ 8:54 said....

"If BD is a manipulative person, wouldn't she manipulate every appearance that she makes to paint herself in the best light?"

No one said she was a good manipulator. That is kind of the point. :-)

JerseyJane said...

If I had to guess..... Hmmmm... Billie is not at PRO Status in the Manipulation Department yet. LoL

She is a "5 Star" no searcher thou!!!
Extra bonus points with the rolled up sleeves on the T-shirt during her no searches!! LoL



elf said...

Thank you.

~ABC said...

shmi said...
Please tell me the eyes were photoshopped!

I noticed that right away too! It looks like once again the camera did not lie.

veruca said...

I likes ya plenty,elf.
I got what you were saying up there. Bd thinks shes smarter than everyone and funner and supercool...its natural for her psychotic self to think she would be the hottest chick at her missing daughter's vigil...i totally get your post though.

Anonymous said...

JerseyJane said...
If I had to guess..... Hmmmm... Billie is not at PRO Status in the Manipulation Department yet. LoL

She is a "5 Star" no searcher thou!!!
Extra bonus points with the rolled up sleeves on the T-shirt during her no searches!! LoL


I am curious as to how many missing childrens cases that you have followed Jersey? I am not speaking of just the high profile cases. I think you might be surprised to learn that many parents of the missing to not go on searches for their missing children. Search and Rescue is certainly not everyones cup of tea, particularly if one has the extra burden of the possibility of coming across their deceased child.

veruca said...

Nothing would stop me from finding my kid...
And i dont have any.
Any mothers here?
would lack of searching experience stop you from looking for your missing kid?
And im saying short of le telling you not to,i mean. ,

Max said...

Nothing would stop me from looking for my sons or my daughter. period.

Anonymous said...

MissJustice said...
Seems like Billie Dunn really dislikes you and your blogs because you keep the pressure on her and Shawn. You are continuously posting your opinions and analyzing every word. This intimidates her. she fears you. Hopefully the pressure will soon be too much for her. JUSTICE FOR HAILEY!

"Seems like". We all know what that means. Did BD post here? If so, I missed it.

Anonymous said...

Nanna Frances said...
Peter,

Thank you for all your hard work on this case and others. Billie's selfishness showed when she allowed a much younger man who had threathened her daughter move into the home. Billie was into her own needs and not those of her children


Let's analyze this statement. It is rather hostile and the emphasis seems to be on "younger man". If BD was a man and SA was a woman, I doubt that age difference would even be touched on. When did SA threaten Hailey? Was it a verbal threat directed at Hailey? "Billie was into her own needs"........would that include love? BD was not allowed to have love because she had children? I think what bothers you the most is that BD had love with a younger man.

Local anon said...

Oh my oh my oh my. Please allow my off topic when I so often ask for no off topic. I am shaking. Tonight I heard my neighbor to please help. I went to help and she was screaming hysterically, like a wild animal scared on the floor, hysterical. I tried to get her to tell me me, what is wrong, how can I help you? Finally her husband came out, saying it is Brooke, she committed siucide, hung herself in our bedroom. The police and EMTsvarrived at that time, I went home. This is so horrible. So many emergency personnel, the crime scene squad, truck, family and then corandor van. That girl is dead and I could not help, I cannot stop shaking, cannot help. Never in my life have I felt so helpless, so useless. My head and heart feel like I will burst. The agony of this family will be something I will feel forever. My apologies, but I need to get this out.

Local anon said...

Back again. I am Attlee hysterical my self. I was first responder and did nothing to help. I barely figured out what the parents were telling me when yhe police and and emts arrived. I told them what I saw and what the parents told me and they asked did I see the girl. No, they arrived and I left. I am still shaking and crying witnessing the prents, brother, sister, grandmother as this unfolded and it was apparent she really did kill herself. Billie andvshawn, I hope you burn in hell. My night is he'll tonight and I hardly know this family. Sorry for the misspelling, worst than usual but I am still a bit hysterical, helpless.

Lynn said...

Local Anon, It is getting close to 3am here and I've got to get to bed but just read your postings and I am so sorry you went through that this evening. I am praying for you as well as the parents of this poor young tortured soul.

Lis said...

Local Anon, I'm so sorry, what a terrible experience! I'm so sorry for your neighbors, I can't imagine the pain they are in. My thoughts are with you all.

Lis said...

Anonymous at 1:06, you may want to check out previous articles from the archives, I think you will find all your questions answered there. No one would begrudge BD to find love.

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john said...

GRACE: ... and loving on them, and spending time with them. DOESN'T make me jealous. I`ve NEVER picked up on that.

Even NG is not exempt from S/A.

Hehe..

john said...

Be it S/A Body language or the attire someone dons its all relevant in the overall bigger picture.

Lawyers use it all the time in Voir Dire..

They listen to responses from the jury candidates,they watch their body language and they look at the clothes the wear.

Are they flamboyant dresses.
Are they scruffy.
Are they well dressed.etc.

Even down to tattoos.They all tell us something about a person.

Type,color,size,picture chosen,the location of the tattoo etc,the reveal a lot about us..

Someones clothes can tell you,there status,their job,etc.

Jewellery is the same.Wedding bands,crosses(religious beliefs),piercing the list is endless.

Do they were colors as some gangs do.That will tell you not to go near that color if yours is the opposite.

So yes in my opinion BJDs choice of clothes screams more about her than she realises.

A great book on this subject is..

Reading People by.

Jo-Ellan Dimitrius,Phd and Mark Mazzarella.

Dee said...

Veruca...I imagine they'd have to physically hold me back. I understand why they ask parents not to actually search. They are not professional and could contaminate any crime scene they find.
But the want and the need to search would be there even if they were prevented from doing so. That's where they differ from BJD. She showed no desire, no want, no need to find her daughter.

JerseyJane said...

Excellent John:-) Oh that Nancy!! LoL
Thanks for the read!

Anon 1, you did a good job. Yes, you did a good job. You were a filter for the family's pain. Your presence, at that helpless moment, was your job. You helped them with your presence in the most tender of times. Relax, stay calm and know you made a difference. Also, know you have an outstanding community response team. They asked if you saw the girl, Brooke. They were securing the scene and investigating.
Ten years ago, the normal was for females to ingest pills or poisoning and the male's approach was more dramatic with self-inflicted or hangings. The times have changed, we see so many 'unimagineable ways' as the world has gotten colder and darker..

JerseyJane said...

There are different forms of searching. Billie did not even display the very basic, making contact with the supposed sleepover house.

Anon, searching for your daughter should be your cup of tea!!
At the very least, Billie could have told Clint or her able-bodied son to represent her on the forefront. Instead she chose to cozy up on the couch with HER cup of tea.

It's not about donning a police hat or bloodhounds dragging u along!! My goodness!!! Anon at 12:17am.
Thanks Veruca, Max, and Dee..:-)

Anonymous said...

Elf, I respect your posts and find them well written. However, in this case you are wrong; the manner in which BJD dresses for public appearances, and the suggestive way she displays her sensuality ARE very important to how she portrays herself and expresses her self-respect, or lack of, as the mother of a missing child.

Would you go to church dressed and flaunting yourself as Billie does, to the house of the Lord which decries a certain amount of respect and dignity? Even those who run into church off the beach on a sunday morning DO appropriately cover up themselves.

Would you go to court to face a judge and expect to be treated with dignity, when the manner in which one presents themselves before him/her and their court is either regarded as respectful or disrespectful to them? It can (and does) make a difference as to the outcome of their trial. Yes, this IS the way judges view those who show up in their courtrooms.

Why would you show up at a hallowed vigil for your missing daughter, or for a media appearance that the whole US of A will be viewing; looking like either a teeny bopper or a dope addled ignorant floozie, which BDJ frequently does? I'd betcha she didn't show up for work dressed like this and flaunting herself unless she worked in the morgue.

There is a time and a place for everything. I am and have been a well-known and affluent business woman; would I DARE present myself in public or in my office dressed like BJD does and expect to be successful or have any intelligent influence over anyone whatsoever if I turned out looking and flaunting my sexuality like BJD does? You can bet your expensive torn jeans I wouldn't.

What BJD shows up wearing should be reserved for a backyard BBQ, and if this is the way you dress in a public showing other than to run out to do some hurried shopping or a similar quick trip, then someone needs to teach her (and you) how to dress in a public gathering place that commands a respectful demeanor, and if you don't recognize this, then you are way off base too. This does not mean you are an idiot since you clearly aren't and that was wrong for someone to call you such.

However, you started this Elf, YOU are the one who first came out calling some of the other posters catty and showing your claws. Sorry, but I have to agree with Boston Lady & Lemon on this one. And John too, who is also entirely correct about ones manner of dress. Respectfully, Anon 1

Anonymous said...

JersyJane, I think you meant your post above for Local Anon and not me, Anon 1. I agree, this is a terrible thing Local Anon has just been through. I don't see anything different she could have done. She did her best after the fact and there was nothing more she could have done.

I feel so bad for her. God help her; I'm sure she's still all torn up this morning.

I agree with you Jersy, we are living in a terrible time and likely to get much much worse. It seems that the evil on this earth has accelerated by leaps and bounds. We are living in a dangerous and evil time with only way out, and I think most of us know what that way is. God bless... Anon 1

Anonymous said...

I meant to say: "with only ONE way out". Anon 1

Anonymous said...

Billie Jean dresses like a classless slob in most interviews - ripped jeans and wrinkled oversized shirts and unwashed hair and little-to-no make-up - to present herself as the stereotypical mother of a missing daughter: exhausted and tired, all time spent crying and searching, depressed, too stunned to clean up, etc

But when she's not in front of the camera she dresses like a stripper and acts like a whore

Anonymous said...

@elf

IT's a FACT, not a "rumour", that BJD failed to wear a Hope For Hailey t-shirt at the vigil, LOOK AT THE PHOTO YOU MORON

veruca said...

;)

it's your fault said...

if i lived next door to you i would probably kill myself too.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9:19, while I agree that BJD was not wearing the Hope For Hailey t-shirt; also that there have been other occasions where Billie was not properly dressed to represent her missing daughter, nor did she take any pride in her appearance, in a public setting;

however, I do not perceive Elf to be a moron, nor should you. Elf defends BJD's manner of dress with the expensive torn jeans, etc., because this is the way she dresses in public and thinks nothing of it. A lot of people dress like this, not knowing any better I guess. But IMO, this makes them qualifed to work at Hooters or down on the docs at the fishing boat sales (not the Yacht sales!) no matter what other credentials they may have.

It's for danged sure they couldn't work for me, not even as a receptionist; in fact not as an office cleaner either unless it would be after hours when no one else is present and even then I'm not so sure I'd trust them not to riffle through desks or snitch toilet paper.

Dressing well and maintainaing one's personal hygeine, and for the proper occasion, is not only a status symbol, it speaks of ones astuteness and the ability to properly represent the one (or business) they are representing.

I'd guarantee it, a young and vulnerable girl like Hailey was ashamed of her mother just as I would have been, as she would have also dressed and acted suggestively at the PTA meetings; and this is not a slam against you, Elf. I just think maybe you don't know any better, but don't be so quick to jump those who do. Anon 1

JerseyJane said...

Thanks, Anon 1 for coming forth and correcting me!:-) I appreciate you taking the time.
My thoughts are with you, Local Anon. Please hear my message to you.;-) Your knowledge of the area and events in this case have opened up many different ideas that have sparked excellent conversations amoungst the posters. Come back when you are ready, let us know you are doing well.:-)

Local anon said...

Thank you for the kind words. I am still traumatized and somewhat shaky. I had to walk past their house to feed my neighbor's dog.

Trigger said...

I have to say that I have noticed how "dressed down" and depressed Billie acts when the cameras are on her.

Jeans and T-shirts are her clothes of choice, enhanced a drab hair do and a woeful demeanor, and no blood on her clothes.

I did take notice that in the photo where she is partying, that she dresses differently with a more attractive hair do and color. She sparkles with glee with the appearance of fresh blood and a masked man who looks threatening, around her.

She's in full bloom mode in the party photo.

Both images that she projects are extreme.

Anonymous said...

It's your fault: You are just plain evil, mean and nasty. And that's all I have to say about that. (I am guessing that no one listens to you at home and would ignore you if you said the house is on fire even if it was).

Y/W; lovely post to Local Anon, Jersey. I share in your sentiments to Local Anon. IMO, she is more knowledgeable in this particular case and that area and its' residents; also some in LE, than some here might realize and is always thoughtful in the way she expresses herself.

My heart goes out to her for what she experienced last night. Sadly, there is no way she could have changed the situation, or fixed it.

Rest today, Local Anon, and come back soon. Thinking of you, Anon 1

Anonymous said...

Awww... Local Anon, I am SO sorry. Anon 1

Anonymous said...

Trigger, Billie is just playing her ridiculous games, looking like she thinks she's supposed to look, messy, all greiving and the like; when we all know she ISN'T.

We've also seen her at her "party-best" and strutting her stuff. If there have been those who said she showed up at the grief center and at vigils wearing tight clothes, I believe them. Yeah, right, in grief.

But the photo at the beginning of this article? Take a LOOK at the face and eyes of both Billie & Shawn. PURE guilt, and that's NOT photoshopping either. Anon 1

ecossie possie said...

OT So releived an happy to see your feeling well enough to post an commment Nanna Frances .

Please dont rush your recovery relax an rest an take a laid back week or to .
Regain your strength,

ecossie possie said...

OT So releived an happy to see your feeling well enough to post an commment Nanna Frances .

Please dont rush your recovery relax an rest an take a laid back week or to .
Regain your strength,

Child Advocate said...

Local Anon, I'm sorry you had such a horrifying experience. Your neighbors were fortunate to have you there. My thoughts and prayers are with Brooke's family and you.

The clothes we choose to wear to any event say a lot about us. BJD is not happy unless she's the center of attention. She had to share attention with Hailey in life, now much to her dismay, even more so in death.

ecossie possie said...

The radio interveiw with Billie Jean Dunn was a farce.
Talk about soft ball there were no questions.

The host described her as a brave an advocate for missing children??
Billie came on an her first words were....

Do you want me to talk a llittle bit aabout Hailey?
Oh no lets talk about the state of the union.
Of course they want to talk about hailey an not just a little bit.

So after praising BD to the heavens an how good an advocate she has been for missing children.

The hosts goes on to introduce other guests an then will get back to BD .
For more in depth interveiw.

An then suddenlt show is canceled because all the linres are down tech issues beyond there control.

Yeah sure what a flamminn gyp.
I doubt we will ever hear anymore talkshow intervews with BD.

Unless there conducted behind bars.

Anonymous said...

Glad I didn't even bother to waste my time on this program. I figured I would pick it up later after reading the opinions of others. However, just from what you are saying Possie, it's obvious there wasn't going to be anything diverse on the program worth listening too.

I do wonder how Peter would have handled Billie. I don't think he would have let her slide by on her lies without making his points.

Also Possie, I don't think this will be Billie's last radio or media appearance. I think she will crank up loud and clear once she gets going placing all the blame on Shawn and her pitiful innocence in believing in and loving him. She's a fool, and not smart enough to deceive everybody like she thinks she is. Anon 1

~ABC said...

On this mornings radio program BJD began her "talk about Hailey" with an alibi.

She said, "I went to work and left Hailey home alone"

Anonymous said...

What else did Bd say?

Peter Hyatt said...

very good point, ABC

It is vital that we listen to where someone begins.

BostonLady said...

Local anon, so sorry you had to witness all of that. It had to be very traumatic and you might want to talk to someone who deals with people who witness traumatic events. I think it's very normal to still feel shaky this morning.

((( Hugs )))

Lemon said...

~ABC said...
On this mornings radio program BJD began her "talk about Hailey" with an alibi.

She said, "I went to work and left Hailey home alone"
__________

She said, "I went to work and left Hailey home alone" - "home alone". It sounds like the beginning of the SOD (some other dude) did it defense. Stranger danger, and all that.

~ABC said...

Working on a transcript right now.

~ABC said...

This is only BJD's comments. I did not revise any of the run-on sentences.

BJD:
Hello. Hi. um okay. You want me to talk about Hailey for a minute? A little bit of the background?

It definitely has um well Hailey went missing almost 2 and a half years ago on Dec 27th.

ABC thoughts... Hailey went missing makes it Hailey's fault. Is BJD expressing HER belief about what happened to Hailey? If she really believes Hailey was abducted wouldn't she say Hailey was abducted?

BJD:
She was just 13 at the time. Um I went to work and left her home alone and didn't find out she was actually missing until the next day. I was told she'd went to spend the night at a friends and the next day found she out she never made it there. We haven't heard from Hailey since and really don't have many clues other than a person who's acting suspicious so we just have no clues to where Hailey is. Um she definitely didn't run away. She's very close to all of the family. Our whole family's very close and a tight knit family and she would have never left and I never had any problems with Hailey (audible throat clearing) and something that helps me a lot what helps me the most through this because it's been horrible and like Molly said it's something you can never prepare for and you never even think you're going to have to prepare for it but keeping hopeful that I will see her again and definitely having my son we're together almost twenty-four seven. That keeps my sanity. Also I have a really good support group I've got great friends that I talk to everyday. I've got close family members that I talk to every day and having other mothers with missing children and hearing things that they go out and do for their children or for other children that helps me a lot. It also helps me a lot when I'm able to say, "Hey can, can you help out this family too. I'm, I really like advocating for everybody not just Hailey, mostly Hailey, but I like to, I like to be able to help other people as well.

~ABC said...
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~ABC said...

My overall feeling of it was that BJD saw this as an opportunity to CYA for herself and plant the seed of doubt about the "suspicious person" who I can only conclude is SAdkins.

Eveything she says about what she's doing is passive.

john said...

We haven't heard from Hailey since and really don't have (MANY) CLUES)other than a (PERSON) who's acting suspicious so we just have (NO CLUES) to where Hailey is. UM SHE DEFINITLEY DIDN'T RUN AWAY.

And there lies the truth in that last sentence.

~ABC said...

BINGO John!

BostonLady said...

It also helps me a lot when I'm able to say, "Hey can, can you help out this family too. I'm, I really like advocating for everybody not just Hailey, mostly Hailey, but I like to, I like to be able to help other people as well.

***

Can "who" help out "which" family too? Billie really likes advocating for everybody, not just Hailey. OMG. Billie cannot even put Hailey first in this statement.

Unbelievable. Truly UNBELIEVABLE.

BostonLady said...

It also helps me a lot when I'm able to say, "Hey can, can you help out this family too. I'm, I really like advocating for everybody not just Hailey, mostly Hailey, but I like to, I like to be able to help other people as well.

***

Another thing caught my attention in this statement. Billie doesn't help anyone, except herself. Billie states "it helps ME alot to SAY" She doesn't "do" and it's not helping the families, it's helping BILLIE.

SMH

~ABC said...

I wish there was an edit function on this blog :-)

Yep Lemon, I inadvertently quoted BJD using Hailey's name the first time but she actually referred to her as "her. But the sense of the statement is the same in using that "home alone" theme.

Anonymous said...

BJD: and definitely having my son we're together almost twenty-four seven. That keeps my sanity.

And pays her bills. According to a local on facebook, Billie and David were working for a carpet company but Billie was either fired or quit, and David continues to work for the company while she is unemployed. He finished high school and now he's supporting her.

So much for her "child advocacy": she's living off of her own child, he's breaking his back to keep a roof over their head and put food on the table and he's likely suck in a life of manual labour, while the "child advocate" refuses to work and parties all the time

~ABC said...

Peter Hyatt said...
"very good point, ABC

It is vital that we listen to where someone begins."


Thanks Peter. I actually goofed a bit on that. She said 2 things before this. The first thing she said in "talking about Hailey" was "Hailey went missing" which seems to be blaming the victim to me and would still be alibi building right off the top.

Local anon said...

Thank you all for your kind words. My husband and I are sill badly shaken but getting better. All my neighbors are shaken. The agony on the faces of Brooke's parents and brother is something I will never forget. I barely recognized them. I hope I never feel that agony. I'll come but when the raw emotion is gone and I have something to contribute. Thank you for your carding and kindness. It helps a great deal.

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~ABC said...

God Bless You Local Anon....

john said...

Ditto ABC...

Anonymous said...

Interesting that the next thing the host planned to discuss was the negative things people were saying. Gee, I wonder who made the host think that was such an important topic.

Randie said...

Thank you ABC for the transcript!
Randie

~ABC said...

You're welcome Randie :-)

Randie said...

[I capatalized my analysis and put notes in parenthesis}

BJD:
Hello. Hi. um okay. You want me to TALK about Hailey for a minute? A little bit of the background?

It definitely has
(She wanted to talk about her pain first but knew better)

um well Hailey WENT
(blaming Hailey)

missing almost 2 and a half years ago on Dec 27th.

BJD:
She was just 13 at the time. Um I went to work and LEFT her home alone and didn't find out she was ACTUALLY missing until the next day.

(There is a missing pronoun before [didn't find out out she...]

I was TOLD she'd went to spend the night at a friends and the next day found she out never made it there.


(There is a missing pronoun before [found she never made it there]

WE haven't heard from Hailey since and really don't have many clues other than a person who's acting suspicious so WE just have no clues to where Hailey is.

(There is a missing pronoun before [really don't havae many]

(don't have many clues / have no clues. She's wants information to stop]

(she wants to blame shawn as the suspicious one)

Um she DEFINETLY didn't

("didn't" makes it sesitive)

run away. She's very close to all of the family. Our whole family's very close and a tight knit family and she would have never LEFT

(family is stated three times)

and I never had any problems with Hailey (audible throat clearing) and something that HELPS ME a lot what HELPS ME the most through this BECAUSE it's been horrible and like Molly said it's something you can never prepare for and you never even think you're going to have to prepare for it but keeping hopeful that I will see her again and DEFINETLY having my son we're together almost twenty-four seven. THAT keeps my sanity.

("Hopeful" is associated with seeing Hailey. "Sanity" is associated with having her son)

ALSO I have a really good support group I've got great friends that I talk to everyday. I've got close family members that I TALK to every day and having other mothers WITH missing children and hearing things that they go out and do for their children or for other children THAT helps ME a lot. It also HELPS ME a lot when I'm able to say, "Hey can, can you help out this family too. I'm, I really like advocating for everybody not just Hailey, mostly Hailey,

(HAILEY IS SECOND)

But ["but" just erased mostly Hailey]

I like to, I like to be able to help other people as well.
-----------------------------

I tried to do analysis. Randie


Anonymous said...

"want me to talk a little bit about Hailey? Oh, ok, I really thought this was about me and how I have suffered and how I don't want to go to jail no matter what I did..."

Anonymous said...

Hailey went missing. I am still so angry at her but she had it coming
she went to marybeths without my permission
she never called me so i wasn't about to call her and go a chasin' after her. ya'll know i get a hair across my %^*&(*( with stuff like that.

JerseyJane said...

When BJD mentions Hailey, BJD talks of Hailey and tight knit family.( it is mentioned 3X's in small area, does it rub BJD the wrong way that Hailey was so close to Clint's family? Jealousy? This is what Billie fought about with Hailey, Hailey wanting to live with Clint?)

When BJD mentions her support, BJD friends are mentioned before family.

(BJD is not sounding very family-oriented mommy of the year here. BJD's friends come first.) Amazing!

Thanks for homework, ABC! Leave it to you to dish it out!! ABC...hehehe

JerseyJane said...

^^ anon- bahahaha! I can picture that!!!

BostonLady, you are so good at find all her ME, ME... It's got to be in the thousands by now!! My goodness! Hehe

~ABC said...

JerseyJane said...
"Thanks for homework, ABC! Leave it to you to dish it out!! ABC...hehehe"

lol Nope. Just dishing it up for your perusal.

veruca said...

I think you did a fine job,randie. Well done :)

Shoppergalone said...

The main thing I got from it was Billie saying "don't have many clues other than a person who's acting suspicious" tho she didn't say who or anything. Getting ready to use Shawn's name perhaps?


Local Anon, my heart is with you. God bless you.

Local anon said...

Thank you all. I will be ok soon and hopefully have something to contribute. Anon 1, thank you for jumping on its your fault. That was probably a Billie and Shawn lover and in my hysteria I made a hugely rude comment about them. Not to worry all you fine people, enough of what happened to Brooke and her family from me on this blog. The family and my husband and I have lots of support. Hailey is what I come her for and what I will concentrate on. So, here I go. Focus:)

Local anon said...

Thank you all. I will be ok soon and hopefully have something to contribute. Anon 1, thank you for jumping on its your fault. That was probably a Billie and Shawn lover and in my hysteria I made a hugely rude comment about them. Not to worry all you fine people, enough of what happened to Brooke and her family from me on this blog. The family and my husband and I have lots of support. Hailey is what I come her for and what I will concentrate on. So, here I go. Focus:)

Local anon said...

Oops, maybe the focus isn't quite there. Sorry!