Let us hope Colorado City will reinstitute the reward money. Curtis Lloyd found the remains.
KTXS reporting: Man who found Hailey Dunn's remains likely won't receive Colorado City reward
FBI reward remains a possibility
Big Spring man who found teen Hailey Dunn’s remains won’t be able to collect a more than $10,000 reward once offered in Colorado City – unless plans change.
Curtis Lloyd, however, could still garner an up to $15,000 FBI reward, although no one – including himself – appears ready to talk about if it already has or will ever become a reality.
Lloyd came across Hailey Dunn’s remains in March near Lake JB Thomas in Scurry County.
About five months ago, Colorado City officials – believing the teen would never be found alive – dissolved the town’s reward fund and returned at least $10,000 to donors.
“I hate to say it but everyone had kind of given up hope that she was alive,” said David Hoover, Colorado City’s current city manager.
Asked whether the Colorado City reward money could be regathered and presented to Lloyd for finding Hailey Dunn’s remains, Hoover said: “We could, but right now we have no plans to do so.”
The donations – mostly checks – were sitting in a vault at Colorado City offices when the decision was made to return them to donors, including a banker and businessman who gave $5,000 each, said Pete Kampher, former city manager of Colorado City.
A letter detailing the return of the donations to donors was sent on Dec. 20, 2012, Hoover said.
The decision partly was based on the FBI, which is assisting with the death probe, offering an up to $15,000 reward of its own, Hoover said this week.
Meanwhile, FBI spokeswoman Katherine Gilkinson Chaumont said reward information generally remains confidential.
“As to your reward questions, to protect the safety, anonymity and privacy of individuals that provide information, the FBI generally does not comment on reward money and its disbursement, to include if a payment is made, the amount paid, who is paid or how many people are paid,” Gilkinson Chaumont said in an email.
That means only Lloyd would know if the reward has been paid out – and repeated efforts to reach him for comment have been unsuccessful since he told KTXS and other news organizations details about his Hailey Dunn remains find.
On the FBI’s national and Dallas region websites, Hailey Dunn’s poster is listed under the category of “Seeking Information” under the “Most Wanted” section.
The FBI’s Hailey Dunn poster calls for “information leading directly to the arrest of the individual responsible for this crime.”
I won't be surprised if BJD tries to fenagle a way to collect the reward money!
ReplyDeleteShe clearly has no shame.
Curtis Lloyd should receive the reward money. This is not the first time lately that I have seen someone qualified to receive award money and they don't receive it, due to some technicality.
ReplyDeleteHow can they expect people to give any information or help to solving a case when they see this happening?
Seriously, if someone with knowledge thinks about coming forward, they may very well be held back by knowing they will not receive the reward in the end.
Ok, rant over. Sorry about that.
Travis got justice. Now it's time for Hailey to get Justice.
ReplyDeleteI think we all need to tell the media to focus on this child now.
Mr Lloyd should receive a reward. I doubt that's the first thing on his mind though.
ReplyDeleteOf course he should receive the reward money! He found Hailey! I hope they do this right.
ReplyDeleteI hope it works out that Lloyd Curtis gets the FBI reward money. Aside from the fact that he deserves it, optically speaking, if he doesn't, what would be the motivating factor for future "informants" if they "knew" that the rewards was a ruse?
ReplyDeleteHe should definately get the FBI reward, he did find Hailey after all.
ReplyDeleteA cousin of Hailey's has posted onto the Discussion facebook page that she KNOWS BJD and SA are not innocent. Good on her! The admin asked if Clint knows she is posting these things on the internet and she said 'yup he knows'.
Wow! I hope after Clint is ready, that he can find for Hailey. Sounds like his family knows. If he does nothing more, it's time to fight for justice for Hailey!!!
DeleteCurtis Lloyd was in the right spot at the right time. I do not believe his being in that spot was coincidental.
ReplyDeleteEven SA told authorities that HD was in Scurry County, yet no one had managed to locate her body, at least not until Curtis Lloyd found her.
I believe that CL deserves the reward money. But I ALSO believe that his true reward is one that awaits him in heaven.
Texas Anon
Are the FBI offering the reward for information leading to arrest(s) of person(s) responsible?
ReplyDeleteAgain this photo amazes me. They are both all smiles. Like they are going on a fund raiser. Clearly no defastation on either face. Shawn isome thing, it's not his child but Billie looks perfectly content... Just another day doing my "good deed"
ReplyDeleteJust another example of how poorly the C City city management is.
ReplyDeleteThe Colorado donors may very well tell the city to give Curtis the reward and I hope they do. As for the FBI, I doubt that they will divulge anything based on that statement.
ReplyDeleteMr. Lloyd deserves the reward, he also deserves a thank you from Billie, I don't see either happening.
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Mr. Lloyd, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you have done. I know your not expecting or wanting a monetary reward. You sir have morals/character/soul of an Angel & no amount of money can buy that! God Bless You & Thank You!!
IMHO it would be nice IF anyone did get the reward, to contribute it to the school towards a Hailey Dunn Memorial Scholarship...that is what I would do. So many of those kids there could sure use it to further their education...
ReplyDelete( and get out of that crazy place.)
I know Curtis, and the only time he ever said anything about a reward he said " If I get reward money I want to have a memorial stone made for Hailey and place it at the lake" I can see him working overtime now, so he can pay for the stone.
ReplyDeleteHe is a great guy, and his wife is the sweetest lady I know.
God Bless you Curtis, TP.
I believe that if there is reward money to be had, he should get it. But if its legitimately dissolved, then so be it.
ReplyDeleteThe question was posed, what motivation is there to disclose info without a reward? How about human decency? Since when do we feel we need a payday to search or tell what we know?
Based on Mr. Lloyds own posts. I suspect he may feel as I do.
Mr. Lloyd deserves the reward and I hope he receives it. Thank you so very much Mr. Lloyd for finding Hailey's remains. Many owe you a debt of gratitude.
ReplyDeleteDuly note members of Clint's family have thanked Mr. Lloyd whereas members of Billie's family not only refused to thank Mr. Lloyd but on facebook launched a smear campaign against Mr. Lloyd (hence Peter's "Kronk" entry about the vilification of Mr. Curtis)
ReplyDeleteAnon said....
ReplyDeleteBillie's family not only refused to thank Mr. Lloyd but on facebook launched a smear campaign against Mr. Lloyd
May 8, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Disgusting, but fitting and expected. Darkness always opposes light.
Asked whether the Colorado City reward money could be regathered and presented to Lloyd for finding Hailey Dunn's remains, Hoover said: "We could, but right now we have no plans to do so."
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Oh man..........
I don't know how rewards work, so please forgive all of the questions I am about to ask.
ReplyDeleteWho is in charge of the CC reward money? How was the reward listed? Does it have qualifications like if there is a conviction? If they refuse to give it to Curtis, what will happen to the money and is that not fraud?
Rewards are given when the information/evidence directly results in arrests and/or convictions (hence the reason why nobody received the reward in the Chris Donor situation)
ReplyDeleteMr. Lloyd should be rewarded because the evidence he found is the evidence that will directly result in arrests.
Also, LE and prosecutors are quoted on record as saying the case could not progress to the prosecution stage without Hailey's body. Well they've got Hailey and when Hailey was officially identified the police chief of Mitchell County made it clear the case would be tried in Scurry County which means the case has progresses to the prosecution stage, thanks to the finding of Hailey.
Two donors donated the bulk of the reward: "a banker and businessman who gave $5,000 each".
Hoover should contact those two donors and ask them to redonate the same amount, then reward Mr. Lloyd with $10,000.
And the City should have a special plaque made for Mr. Curtis and the plaque should include enough gold engraving to make the plaque worth a Grand.
ReplyDeleteAnd the City should donate, in Curtis Lloyd's name, $10,000 to the Hailey Dunn scholarship fund.
I hope that if there is still a federal reward, Mr. Lloyd receives it. There is little motivation to report remains found to authorities after the CA fiasco and now the threats to Mr. Lloyd if someone doesnt have the moral fortitude to do so. There is a lot at stake reporting remains found that a murderer did not intend for you to find. A reward should be given as a motivator for future cases.
ReplyDeleteAs another poster so perfectly stated, Mr. Lloyd did what nobody else could do. He found Hailey Dunn.
http://www.hopeforhailey.org/
ReplyDeleteThe website created, owned, operated by Carrie McGonigle - it's alive and well, Hailey remains MISSING, no one to post she has been recovered. A reward posted, FBI will reward up to 15k for any information, not Hailey's body. Reward of up to 15k, for Information leading directly to the arrest of the individual who is responsible of this crime.
Speaking of, where is Carrie? Billie is my bestie, I believe her, no one can say anything negative about my friend, I fight for " dollars" and donations - to discourage and be negative, to promote to all, that Law Enforcement does not want Hailey found. As my prominent voice aids my best girl Billie, I speak candidly. I am not on the fence, I know who I am, who I support, NO one takes advantage of me.
Don't you see the signs, google me, I mean my daughter, * I got my wish, my face in the media. Hailey who? Hailey found and Carrie is where? not a peep out of her. She is no longer CAMP Billie? or this is left to Privacy between she and Ostrander not Dunn. She doesn't post on Facebook.
http://youtu.be/zYS3wOaQvXs
Quote from: AmbersMom on March 10, 2011, 03:32:41 AM
OK look you guys I just caught up on all your post and I have some questions, answers and of course remarks. I listed different things that I thought should be addressed starting from my last post, I hope it helps!
1. Don't worry about me being taken advantage of by BJ or anyone else! Thanks for your concern but no one is taking advantage
2. Hopeforhailey.org is the official website for Hailey, I have no idea who the heck this cafe press is and the merchandise they were selling, nor do I care. Hopeforhailey.org was going to sell T-shirts but have decided against it. There will be a donate pay pal button soon. All funds are used for the search for Hailey. The parents do not have access to the money and no funds will be used inappropriately. I personally helped set this up with the correct people and LEGAL help!
3. The dinner that BJ was not invited to and were she threw a fit, this is a very sore subject for me but let me paint a clear picture for:
A. BJ was invited to the dinner and they had assigned seating Freda and her girls put BJ in a corner and I moved her to the front row! I was asked to speak along with Laura Recovery Center, we were to speak after the dinner and after the 1 ½ hour video they played. The video was not a tribute to Hailey as it should have been, it was a video of fields that have been searched. NO Parent of a missing child wants to see fields were their daughters body may be located. It was in very poor taste. I am the one who asked Clint to have someone stop the video. I had a few words with Freda and let's just say it did not go well!
4. I showed BJ my Tattoo of Amber and she told me she wanted to get one of Hailey and asked what I thought of her getting a tattoo and what people may say. I told her this "BJ she is your daughter if you want a tattoo you should get one!" By the way I was going to get Amber's portrait on my leg 6 weeks after Amber went missing. Again if you haven't walked in our shoes you really shouldn't judge!
5. Please tell me what the hell a boob job has to do with Hailey missing, I do not understand where you guys are going with this. Yes Billy has had a boob Job and…….please clarify
6. The porn, the bestiality sick, I don't get it and I don't get why there has not been an arrest, but something does not add up with all of this. It makes me sick!
7. How can Clint say he does not think SA is involved, Clint has to keep an open mind. If Clint thinks SA or BJ is involved he is going to loose his focus and probably take matters into his own hands which does not help find Hailey.
I am only on one persons side, that would be Hailey's. I am not sticking up for BJ, Clint or anyone else. I have no problem posting facts, rumors get us no where!
The FBI’s Hailey Dunn poster calls for “information leading directly to the arrest of the individual responsible for this crime.”
ReplyDeleteMr. Lloyd delivered sweet Hailey
and she's speaking...
Enough said, payout please, Feds!! :-)
Rewards come to those deserveing.
ReplyDeleteAn the Reward of bringing HAILEYS VOICE as well as her remains.
Is all the reward he needs an even if he were to receive money .
Most of it would be.
Diverted to charitable cause.
Thats why he found Hailey good karma
He rescued Hailey from those ugly feilds.
ReplyDeletePoint Hunter brought us to this point in time.
And his discovery pointed the way for justice.
I'm sorry I will not be attending Hailey's memorial in person.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be best for everyone else who wishes to attend that I not be there. I do not want to be the cause of any disruption and by past history just my presence is disrupting enough and it takes away from what is important.
I pray that everyone will maintain "composure" at Hailey's memorial out of respect for everyone else who is there for their own reasons/needs and that everyone will find the closure they need.
"I would hope that others who's presence may also take away what others need to get out of this memorial service, will also do the right thing and not go, so that those who need to be there to find some resolution will be able to do so.
May Hailey rest in peace.
(SKE)"
So who is SKE talking about? PH or CL or both.
Anyone ..
ReplyDeleteMy memory is a bit hazey at the best of times..
When the original an anmended time line given by billienotdunnothingkerplunked.
You know the front yard time line acording to bndnk....
An we know the entire senario was taken from another missing true crime N Grace Library story.
The part were David is interwoven into.
The story of seeing Hailey playing X Box at 9ish an possably would be playin xbox at her skill level till 12 am.
Where ARE bndnk an shawnboy?
This is happening in the home she is in his bed room on his x box its gettin late an he heads out .
Leaveing Hailey alone?
Because again were were they?
Tucked up in bed already asleep by 8 30 pm .
Or Hailey an David home alone were are the adults.
An why was David headin off to a sleep over .
An Haileys alone ? This must be when the murder ocours .
Or if not then David is lieing to help bndnk alibi
Then he knew his Sister had died an for what ever reason went along with the programe.
Thank you TP. There was no doubt in my mind that if Curtis got the reward he would donate it. I do not know the man and am pleased that you gave us perspective on what I believe about him. Curtis, bless your heart.
ReplyDeleteSo who is SKE talking about? PH or CL or both
ReplyDeletebillienotdunnothingkerplunked shawnjustlikekillingadeerboyadkins
Anon said....
ReplyDeleteSKE said -
just my presence is disrupting enough and it takes away from what is important.
What a load of crapola. Self-centered much? If you, whoever you are, don't attend I'm sure the reasons are far less noble than you want them to appear.
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ReplyDeleteTP said...
ReplyDeleteI know Curtis, and the only time he ever said anything about a reward he said " If I get reward money I want to have a memorial stone made for Hailey and place it at the lake" I can see him working overtime now, so he can pay for the stone.
He is a great guy, and his wife is the sweetest lady I know.
God Bless you Curtis, TP.
May 8, 2013 at 7:04 PM
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I don't know Mr. Lloyd other than what I have seen here on this blog and in the news. I am very impressed with Mr. Lloyd. He comes across as a humble, sweet man with a big heart. Thank you for finding Hailey and bringing her home. I'm very sorry that you have been insulted, threatened, and treated poorly by some of the losers online. May God bless you and your family. I believe that you were led to Hailey thru divine intervention. BL
Do we know if the body had been well hidden?
ReplyDeleteI don't get it, what is up with Colorada City LE to establish a reward fund, allow donors to contribute, never deposit the checks, cancel the reward months later and return the checks to the donors uncashed? As I understand it, this is what they did.
ReplyDeleteWhy weren't the checks deposited and the reward held open, until after evidence was obtained from a credible source as to where Hailey could be found whether dead or alive? Isn't this what a reward is all about in the first place? If they weren't even going to deposits the funds entrusted to them, then they never had a reward established in the first place, did they? So why set one up to begin with?
Why couldn't they reestablish the reward account so that anyone who wanted to send contributions to Mr. Lloyd could do so? IMO, he is very worthy to receive any reward that can be garnered from the many who appreciate what this man did, and still wants to do; which is, have a little memorial standing in Haileys' honor near the lake where he found her, and the rest to do with as he pleases. That is only fair.
As it is now there will be no reward unless the FBI stands by their word and gives Mr.Lloyd the reward they had previously announced, but now will not reveal their intentions. IMO, this whole reward situation is just wrong.
Audpaud; As you may know, Haileys' few remains that were left were found lying on top of the ground (not buried or hidden) in a thicket of thorny bristles, bushes and cactus. IMO, there would be no way a normal searcher would have attempted to go into the area. I'm sure whoever dumped her there thought she would never be found.
ReplyDeleteHad Mr. Lloyd not been slowly and carefully working his way into this very dense thorny thicket, that was all but impassable while searching for centuries old indian artifacs, Hailey would never have been found.
So yes, you might say she was hidden even though she had been dumped in the open into this thicket of thorns. For all we know, the poor girl could have still been alive and left to die a slow death from her injuries, with insects, worms and wild vermin eating away at her flesh as she died. I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth about how or when Hailey died.
Mr.Lloyd is a very dear man to want to go back there and place a memorial to Hailey; which, in fact, could even be the place where she drew her last breath.
Boston Lady, I agree with you that Mr.Lloyd is a humble sweet man; IMO, one who honors God in all that the does, and yes was led by divine intervention to go into that thicket not knowing what he would find. Without realizing, urged on by the holy spirit, he plowed onward.
ReplyDeleteBut I also believe that Mr.Lloyd can be tough as nails when the necessity arises, otherwise he would not be able to do his job as a corrections officer where uncontrollable crises can and likely do arise on a daily basis. He makes tough and hard decisions on a moments' notice.
IMO, he would not be able to bear up calmly under the ugly threats that have been made against him and his family without leaning on divine guidance from above. Whether he knows it or not, I believe he follows a strong armour of strength which can only come from one source.
Anon @ 8:53 said...
ReplyDelete....was led by divine intervention to go into that thicket not knowing what he would find.
I completely agree with you! And the same Divine Mind will be certain that Mr. Lloyd receives all the blessings he is entitled to. Truth is on his side and Karmic Law cannot fail.
Since the reward set up by CC has been returned to the donors and they don't appear inclined to reinstate it, it looks like Mr. Lloyd won't get any of that. The way the FBI's is worded (The FBI’s Hailey Dunn poster calls for) “information leading directly to the arrest of the individual responsible for this crime.” concerns me that he may not get that either unless the evidence he stumbled upon leads to an arrest. I hope what he found is all they were waiting for and arrests happen soon. Whether or not obtaining a reward is a concern of Mr. Lloyd's, he still deserves it and he can decide what he wants to do with it. A memorial stone for Hailey is a nice idea.
ReplyDeleteABC, can you please explain to me what this 'Karmic Law' is and where it is written? I presume you are speaking of karma? That too, I would like to know where it got its' origins.
ReplyDeleteI have read the entire Bible (KJV) and a lot of it several times over, as well as parts of other versions of the Bible and I've yet to find anything in any of them about 'karma' or Karmic Law.
Sometimes something will profoundly stand out to me as if I'd never read it before, when I had read it and clearly understood; then all of a sudden a verse will take on a new meaning, but I've yet to see any karma jump out at me or anything even closely related to karma or Karmic Law.
Can you explain? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
How do we even know Mr. Lloyd wants the reward? Are we doing him a disservice by this publicity especially before Hailey has been laid to rest? He's already gotten negative publicity by people who do not wish him well. If he wants to erect a memorial stone to Hailey at the site where he found her remains, I will gladly donate money towards that and in his name or honor. I think the garden they have for Hailey at Hailey's Hope is nice, perhaps a larger more public one could be made as well with a memorial stone or plaque. I will gladly donate to that too.
ReplyDeleteWhat does this have to do with statement analysis? Oh wait... nothing. Just trying to stir the pot ...
ReplyDeleteBTW, I agree with you ABC, that Mr. Lloyd will be divinely rewarded with many blessings for discovering Haileys' well hidden remains and for honoring her, in many ways yet to come. It's starting to appear that will be his only reward and none other.
ReplyDeleteDee, it would appear that any reward has never been an issue with Mr.Lloyd; however, if one can be obtained he certainly should be entitled to it to do with as he sees fit.
It is so humble and sweet that he has expressed his wishes to place a memorial at the site where he found Hailey should he get any reward. I, for one, would be glad to send a donation to help him acomplish this if someone would set up a fund and announce where to send the donations.
You're right, the way the FBI poster is worded, it doesn't appear that he would be entitled to the FBI reward either unless he, or the remains he found, can point directly to and identify Haileys' killer.
This seems almost unfair since he had no secrets to share with them as to who her killer(s) might be, nor is he a detective on the trail and trying to find her killer(s). It should be good enough for the FBI that he found Hailey and not the burdensome detail of who done it; when there is no possible way he can solve this for them, and I'm quite sure no killer is going to walk up to him and say 'yeah, I did it'.
Meanwhile, we wait until someday when the FBI completes their investigation and decides whether they intend to charge someone or not? We might have a long wait.
I just read the post made by Anon at 10:25 last night and signed as "SKE"? I believe it was posted more than likely by Clint Lloyd who would be unable to identify himself since he has been instructed not to speak again concerning finding Haileys' remains.
ReplyDeleteIMO, if Peter had decided not to attend Haileys' memorial after having said he did intend to go if it were possible, I think he would tell us that; but,I could be wrong.
Maybe Mr.Lloyd has decided it would be best if he had a private memorial for Hailey when he places her marker on the spot where he found her and can pray for her there. I think this would mean a lot to Mr. Lloyd, much more than taking the risk of someone trying to make a public spectacle of him at a servie that is supposed to be for Haileys' eternal memorial.
Anon @ 1:41pm,
ReplyDeleteNo, the post was made by SKE on FB on the page he is an admin on.
The question was if SKE really was sending out a message to either
PH or CL or both to not attend as it is clear SKE has no intentions, nor never has, of attending.
@ the religious freak:
ReplyDeleteThe person who mentioned Karma did not Christianity so there is no reason for your knee-jerk response
But I'll play for the moment
Codified Karmatic laws and codified Karmatic belief systems pre-date Judaism and Christianity by thousands of years
Karmatic themes are replete in the Bible, the best example are nearly all the books of the Prophets, from Joshua Judges Kings and **Isaiah through to Micah Nahum Malachi.
Prophet after prophet after prophet after prophet repeatedly warn Jewry about their "evil" ways and disobeying the Commandments and warning that G-d would punish them for their evil ways and KABOOM the non-Jew people and nations obliterated Jewry and Jewry attributed their destruction to p!ssing off G-d
**Suffering Servant: HebrewsIsraelitesJews the Suffering Servant Nation disobeying Commandments and living "sinful" lives and bringing about out their own destruction which they attributed to G-d rebuking them by guiding other peoples and nations to obliterate them
G-d guiding the Hebrews to Canaan: G-d abandoned peoples of Canaan whom He originally Chose as His People because they abandoned his Commands and wrought "evil" all over the land, G-d then Chose Hebrews and led them to Canaan for the sole purpose of having the New Chosen who obeyed His Commands obliterate the "evil" old chosen ruining Canaan
Dumbed Down: Obey G-d's Commands you defeat all the evil in the land and in the soul and in the mind, no suffering no pain, only the glory of life: do good and life is good for you: KARMA
Disobey G-d's Commands YOU are the evil in the land and evil infests your soul and mind, infinite sufferinf and pain and destruction, life is pure hell and you're obliterated, KARMA
One of the main themes of the Bible, a theme expanded upon and exploited by Christians: when it's time for your Judgement you will be Judged by what you did in life, do good and go will be done unto you, to heaven you ascend, and do bad then bad will be done unto you, to hell you go = Karma
Do Unto Others: treat people bad and they will treat you bad, so treat them good which will result in them treating you good = Karma
There are karmatic cycles all through the Bible
Fixded:
ReplyDelete@ the religious freak:
The person who mentioned Karma did not mention Christianity, let alone attack Christianity, so there was no reason for your knee-jerk response
Hi Anon @ 12.45 PM
ReplyDeleteWhat you sow, so shall you reap. That's it in a nutshell. Science calls it cause and effect. Jesus called it "a new commandment"(John 13:34)
You won't find the label Karma in the KJV. You will only find decriptions of it. The actual word Karma is a sanskrit word meaning action.
Do a search for the words sow and reap in the KJV. It's amazing how many times and ways this process is referred to.
Thank you Anon @ 2:07. :D
ReplyDeleteLet him decide what the money is used for if he ever gets it.
ReplyDeleteI intend on contacting the ktxs crew and ask them to make it known that the public is outraged that they refuse to get the reward back and give it to this man.
If they get enough calls about it they will do a story and make the Colorado city managers look awful.
The number to the news stations is: 325-677-2281
I think Kendell was the main reporter.
Please everyone give them a call and tell them you are ashamed of the Colorado city management for not getting the reward money to CL.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
ReplyDeleteNo.
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ReplyDeleteJesus called it "a new commandment"(John 13:34)
ReplyDeleteI didn't say that :)
LOL good one John :-)
ReplyDeleteA memorial for Hailey
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Interesting comment here too.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=526563464067778&id=141796342544494
Please help find Ayla
ReplyDeleteNANCY GRACE
Texas Police Search for Missing 13-Year-Old Cheerleader
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. A 13-year-old cheerleader, broad daylight, leaves home around lunchtime, heads by foot down the street to a little friend`s house for a sleepover. She`s never seen again.
Bombshell tonight. Bloodhounds scan the neighborhood and a local motel, police combing that motel surveillance video, as we go to air, searching for images of Hailey. Tonight, we learn police seize the cell phones belonging to Mom and her live-in boyfriend. Why? This as police polygraphing friends and neighbors. Mommy volunteers for a polygraph.
Local police call in the Texas Rangers. Reports a body found, discounted. And has there been a sighting of the little girl? In the hours after we go live with the story last night, local caller raydo (ph) police, who originally dismissed the little girl`s disappearance as just a runaway, finally break down and upgrade the case to a missing person. But how many critical hours were lost in the search for the little girl? Tonight, where -- where -- is 13-year-old cheerleader Hailey Dunn?
GRACE: OK, you want to talk about the boyfriend. First, out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us tonight live from Colorado City, Texas. She`s there at the home. Ms. Dunn, thank you for being with us. Let`s just address those issues right now. Let`s talk about your boyfriend.
BILLIE DUNN: OK.
GRACE: Last night, you told me he was on his way home from work, but now I`m learning he was on his way home from his mother`s home?
BILLIE DUNN: YES. HE HAD BEEN AT HIS MOTHER`S house all day Monday. Police HAVE CONFIRMED THAT HE got home about 3:00 o`clock, AND HAILEY LEFT SHORTLY AFTER.
GRACE: OK. Where does he work?
BILLIE DUNN: He`s not working.
GRACE: OK. Last night, didn`t you tell me he was on his way home from work, or did I just get that mistaken?
BILLIE DUNN: NO, I SAID THAT. he went in MONDAY MORNING, but THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT. HE WAS FIRED or THERE WAS JUST A BIG BLOW-UP there. HE WALKED OUT. HE LEFT his job by 6:30 in the morning and went to Big Spring (ph) to his mom`s house.
GRACE: OK. What was the blow-up about?
BILLIE DUNN: I DOn`t even KNOW. I just KNOW HE DIDn`t get ALONG WITH ONE OR TWO of the co-workers.
GRACE: OK. I want to go through his story again. But first let me go back to Michael Board, WOAI Newsradio. Michael, tell me what your understanding of the chronology is.
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GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. I understand police have seized YOURS AND YOUR BOYFRIEND`S cell PHONES. WHY?
BILLIE DUNN: YES. they`re taking them to CHECK OUT ALL THE CALLS THAT WERE made on MONDAY. HAILEY DID HAVE MY cell phone at HOME AND ACCESS to it. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN the cell phone SHE WAS ON. SHE DIDn`t USE SHAWN`s cell phone, but THEY`RE CHECKING THEM BOTH, GETTING the records OFF OF BOTH OF THOSE. And hopefully, WE`RE GOING TO HAVE answers from the cell PHONES TONIGHT.
GRACE: OK. So this has nothing to do with you being under any kind of suspicion at all. This has to do with THE FACT THAT YOUR LITTLE GIRL and YOU SHARED a cell PHONE, AND THEY`RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO she was calling and who WAS CALLING HER, CORRECT?
BILLIE DUNN: CORRECT. I LEFT the cell PHONE AT HOME while I WAS AT WORK, FOR THE KIDS.
GRACE: OK. What about YOUR BOYFRIEND? Why do they have HIS CELL PHONE?
BILLIE DUNN: They have HIS cell PHONE, TOO. IT WAS AROUND probably just for 15 minutes, AND SHE DIDn`t USE IT but they`re LOOKING AT HIS, ALSO.
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Please help find Ayla
ReplyDeleteGRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Billie, you`re Hailey`s mother, and tonight you are making a public plea for her return. What can you tell me about these bloodhounds? We are learning police have brought bloodhounds out to your home, and THEY WENT FROM YOUR HOME TO A LOCAL MOTEL?
BILLIE DUNN: YES. I KIND OF don`t KNOW WHAT TO SAY NOW since i heard police were BEING TIGHT-LIPPED ABOUT IT, BUT I`LL GO AHEAD AND SAY THEY STARTED TOWARD HER DAD`S HOUSE. THEY DIDN`T GO THERE. THEY STOPPED, TURNED AROUND, WENT TO HER FRIEND`S, WENT TO THAT MOTEL, WHERE they told me they`re reviewing video surveillance. THERE WAS VIDEO SURVEILLANCE there. But didn`t HAVE MUCH LUCK THERE?
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GRACE: And WHAT MOTEL IS IT, BILLIE? What is the name of the motel?
BILLIE DUNN: Western Inn or Western Suites. It`s A NEW MOTEL CLOSE TO MY HOUSE.
GRACE: HOW FAR away is it?
BILLIE DUNN: Three to four blocks.
GRACE: Just three to four blocks.
BILLIE DUNN: Right.
GRACE: And what else did police tell you?
BILLIE DUNN: We hear that another lady says SHE SAW HAILEY, HER FRIEND AND a boy SHE DIDN`T RECOGNIZE MONDAY EVENING -- IT WAS already DARK -- WALKING ON THE MAIN STREET BY A STORE. SO they`re LOOKING AT THAT video surveillance, too, SEEING IF THAT story CHECKS OUT, SEE IF THEY CAN PUT HER SOMEWHERE THAT EVENING.
I`M just told that there are a ton of tips COMING IN, AND they`re CHECKING OUT EVERYTHING. AND they SAY when they hear SOMEBODY THINKS THEY`VE SEEN HAILEY AN hour or two AWAY, THEY`RE RUNNING over there, checking video surveillance at a Burger King.
GRACE: You`re right, Alex Sanchez. Billie Dunn, what about your boyfriend? Has he agreed to take a polygraph?
BILLIE DUNN: He will take a polygraph in the morning. Yes, ma`am. It`s set up for in the -- hopefully, early.
GRACE: Well, there you go.
BILLIE DUNN: But it is set up for tomorrow.
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GRACE:
Billie Dunn is with us, joining us from Colorado City, Texas.
Miss Dunn, when she would typically go for a sleepover, would she take a bag and take a lot of stuff with her?
B. DUNN: Nothing at all.
GRACE: OK.
B. DUNN: She would --
GRACE: Go ahead, dear.
B. DUNN: SHE WOULD just GO OVER there with WHATEVER WAS ON HER BACK, and WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT DAY to come home, BRUSH HER teeth, TAKE A bath, FRESHen UP.
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GRACE: RIGHT. RIGHT. That makes perfect sense to me. So the fact that she did not take anything with her, that doesn`t STRIKE YOU AS UNUSUAL.
B. DUNN: RIGHT.
GRACE: ALL RIGHT.
B. DUNN: THAT`S WHY I`M GETTING worried THAT MAYBE-MY- BABY- DIDN`T- LEAVE- ON- HER- OWN- FOR- THIS- LONG- AMOUNT- OF- TIME.
GRACE: OK. Miss Dunn, I want to go back over WHY THE LOCAL POLICE SAID THIS WAS A RUNAWAY. WHY did they classify her as a runaway?
B. DUNN: ALL I KNOW IS because NOBODY SAW HER BEING ABDUCTED.
I want to go back out to the lines, but very quickly, you may have been hearing a dog barking when I was speaking to Billie and Clint Dunn.
I want to go back to Billie Dunn, this is Hailey`s mother.
How far did they tell you the dogs tracked your little girl to that Western Motel? Did they track her into the lobby? Did they track to a certain room, to the parking lot? HOW FAR DID THE TRAIL GO?
B. DUNN: They didn`t TELL ME THAT. They just LET ME KNOW THAT to THE FRIENDS, to THE MOTEL, and they`re reviewing THE VIDEO AT THE MOTEL, and CALLING EVERYBODY WHO HAD BEEN checked in TO THE MOTEL THAT DAY.
GRACE: Now a woman in the community says she spotted Hailey that evening. This would have been Monday evening, with the little neighbor girl and the neighbor girl`s little boyfriend. What would he have been, 12, 13? IS THAT THE LITTLE NEIGHBOR she was going to visit?
B. DUNN: NO. THAT WAS THE GIRL SHE WAS going to visit.
GRACE: WHAT DID THIS WOMAN SEE?
B. DUNN: SHE SAW HAILEY, Mary Beth and a boy THAT SHE DIDN`T RECOGNIZE.
GRACE: Now have you -- have you spoken with Mary Beth? DID THAT IN FACT HAPPEN?
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ReplyDeleteB. DUNN:I hadn`t asked her ABOUT THAT. I`m letting the police handle Mary Beth I DO CALL her TO ASK her HEY, WHAT DID HAILEY SAY TO YOU ON MONDAY, DID SHE CALL YOU monday, DID YOU GUYS text, DID SHE SAY SHE WAS GOING somewhere else MONDAY, OR WITH ANOTHER FRIEND MONDAY, and sHE TELLS ME no.
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GRACE: Did she say she even saw Hailey on Monday?
B. DUNN: She hasn`t told me that she did. No.
GRACE: OK. So to your knowledge, Hailey never went to Mary Beth`s?
B. DUNN: Right. That`s what she says.
GRACE: What about, Billie Dunn? This is Hailey`s mother. YOU KNOW YOUR DAUGHTER IS BEAUTIFUL. WHAT kind of cheerleader WAS SHE?
B. DUNN: JUST ONE of the middle school cheerleaders FOR THIS YEAR.
GRACE: So her cheerleading was basically at the school and at other middle schools, right?
B. DUNN: Right.
GRACE: And police --
B. DUNN: They mostly -- they just stayed in town.
GRACE: So police have taken your two disposable cell phones, they have also taken -- you have a computer at home?
B. DUNN: No.
GRACE: So have they looked at her Facebook account?
B. DUNN: THEY SAY THEY ARE looking INTO HER FACEbook. SHE DID HAVE A FACEbook account.
GRACE: Now when you say that they didn`t know, the friend didn`t know that she was coming for a sleepover, are you talking about Mary Beth and her mother, or just the mother?
B. DUNN: Just Mary Beth.
GRACE: OK.
B. DUNN: SHE`S THE only ONE I`ve asked.
GRACE: Did your daughter have A BOYFRIEND?
B. DUNN: SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND THAT I didn`t KNOW about, about three WEEKS AGO, FOR A SHORT TIME.
GRACE: How old was he?
B. DUNN: he WAS 13 ALSO.
Thanks Anon 8:20am>"Audpaud; As you may know, Haileys' few remains that were left were found lying on top of the ground (not buried or hidden) in a thicket of thorny bristles, bushes and cactus. IMO, there would be no way a normal searcher would have attempted to go into the area. I'm sure whoever dumped her there thought she would never be found.
ReplyDeleteHad Mr. Lloyd not been slowly and carefully working his way into this very dense thorny thicket, that was all but impassable while searching for centuries old indian artifacs, Hailey would never have been found..."
I followed this case intensely at the beginning and have sporadically kept up with the progress (lack thereof) on Peter's and Find Hailey Dunn Fbook postings, but only recently read that her remains had been discovered - so appreciate the synopsis.
The only bright side is that the news has led me back to this fascinating blog and great commenters! :) (And of course that it brings us closer to prosecuting these two vermin-Dunn/Adkins!)
Investigators are no doubt looking for something that ties one or both of the suspects to that location - knowledge of the area will be key based on your description.
GRACE: What about, Billie Dunn? This is Hailey`s mother. YOU KNOW YOUR DAUGHTER IS BEAUTIFUL. WHAT kind of cheerleader WAS SHE?
ReplyDeleteB. DUNN: JUST ONE of the middle school cheerleaders FOR THIS YEAR.
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NG said straight out to BJD - "you know, your daughter is beautiful." She couldn't even bring herself to say - "Yes, she is". She let the compliment slide and went right to a disparagement..."She's JUST one of the middle school cheerleaders..." As if to say, oh there's nothing special about her she's only a middle school cheerleader for the year. How about - "Yes, she is beautiful. She's also funny and bright. She worked hard to become a cheerleader and enjoys it so much." There's never anything that praises Hailey. If this is the image she lets out to the public, how much more did she criticize and demean her when alone?
GRACE: Now when you say that they didn`t know, the friend didn`t know that she was coming for a sleepover, are you talking about Mary Beth and her mother, or just the mother?
ReplyDeleteB. DUNN: Just Mary Beth.
GRACE: OK.
B. DUNN: SHE`S THE only ONE I`ve asked.
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I thought Billie Dunn never spoke to Maribeth. She stated on Nancy Grace that she was letting LE deal with that.
I never caught this one before! Thank you.
Anon you asked A B C
ReplyDeleteTo please explain the laws of karma to you as you were greatl interested.
Asking someone to explain the laws of KARMA IN A REPLY post.
Is tantamount to me asking could some one please explain the nature of .
The script from the Bible,
Do uunto others as you would wish to be trweated yours self.
Because Im realy interested in christianity.
Karma is one of the core beleifs of Hinduism an if Ten thousand page books have trouble defineing it .
How do you expect A B C or even Ma hAT mA ghandi EXPLAINT IN TO YOU.?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma
PS Sorry for the typos anon an Im not being snarky.
ReplyDeleteBut if you want to learn about karma you have the means at your
FINGERTIPS.
google will ppoint you in the right direction
Why is hopeforhailey.org relentlessly tweeting
ReplyDelete"Hailey Dunn remains missing,please Tweet and let's help find her... let's work together. hopeforhailey.org"
This is off topic but, Peter could you please do a statement analysis of Robert Wagner, in the drowning of Natalie Wood??? Thank You
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteWhy is hopeforhailey.org relentlessly tweeting
"Hailey Dunn remains missing,please Tweet and let's help find her... let's work together. hopeforhailey.org"
May 10, 2013 at 7:03 PM
Because the website and apparently the twitter account have been abandoned. Pretty telling huh....
To those who interject "karma" or "Karmic Law" into your pathetic explanations, you've proved my point. Try as you might to whitewash your reasoning and rambling words, even having the audacity to use bible scripture to justify your explanation; neither of those word uses or practices are mentioned in any scriptures of the Holy Bible.
ReplyDeleteThere is no Karma God out there. Almighty God is the exactor of all judgements and punishment; call it payback time, call it karma, or call it anything you like, but it is GOD. So, call it God and HIS judgements, and be done with it.
Can you tell me; where did you see this karma thingie? Is it some sort of unseen, stalking all about us, wooly-bully purple people eater looking thing that spews fire from its' eyes? If there had been any such thing God would have told us. He didn't.
As to Karmic Law, God never gave us any "Karmic Law" and there is no other god that dictates Gods' Laws, I don't care where you read it. Why delude yourselves? Why not call God's judgement by its' proper name? THAT IS GOD, not some sort of karma word or thingie that attempts to replace the use of Gods' name and HIS Laws.
"and there is no other g-d that dictates G-ds"
ReplyDeleteG-d says otherwise:
"You shall have no other g-ds beside Me."
G-d acknowledged other g-ds and Commanded the His Chosen to have Him and not the other g-ds
There's nothing more to say to you because you've demonstrated you don't know anything about religion or the contents of the bible
There's nothing more to say to you because you've demonstrated you don't know anything about religion or the bible and are only interested in attacking people
ReplyDeleteAnon @ 7:13 AM said...
ReplyDeleteGod never gave us any "Karmic Law"
Anything stated in the negative is sensitive. :)
I was hoping to hear some news that there would be arrest.
ReplyDeleteI can't help but worry that here we go again, time passing with no arrests. .
Arrests after the memorial and funeral...
ReplyDeleteI would not count on any arrests. I hate to admit that I have lost hope for an arrest for Hailey's murder or child porn.
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ReplyDeletePlease do not be a quitter like the C City managers were. They gave up hope that Hailey would be found five months to early. They gave back the reward, and now she has been found.
I have hope and I trust that as soon as the grand jury, hears all the evidence they will make arrests.
A ghost led him to her.
ReplyDeleteLuck led him to her.
Karma led him to her.
Just pick one, who cares how he found her. Rejoice in the fact that he did, and honor her memory and his efforts.
Sure he deserved the Reward, and there are idiots throwing him under the bus. Don’t be on that bus, show him the respect he deserves.
((getting down from borax box))
I find it hellarious that SKE got cuught on WOJ telling on BD, and now he is very quiet. see below:::::
ReplyDeleteSorry Ske/Graham the only tards I see are those on duds that you are scamming to believe you think BD is innocent lmao!
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Graham Ward
April 27
Graham Ward
want to post something for me, but dont tell it was me that sent it?
Waiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
April 28
Waiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
Not a word if you want to send it I will sure post it
Graham Ward
April 28
Graham Ward
Shawn was asked who was responsible, and who did investigators need to look at, to which Shawn replied investigators needed to look at "both of us", referring to himself and Billie. Shawn made a positive indication that Hailey could be found in Scurry County. Then he realized they were trying to pin it on him,.... pin Haileys murder on HIM,... that is when he lawyered up.
He was fine telling them what happened until they accused HIM of the murder.... meaning as long as LE was thinking Billie did it, Shawn was talking, but when they started accusing Shawn of being the one that actually killed Hailey, he stopped talking. He was cooperating at first... Think about that Billie.
Waiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
April 28
Waiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
Do you want me to say this was sent in pm like the last one?
Graham Ward
April 28
Graham Ward
yes that will work, im in the in crowd again and i dont want billie knowing i sent that or it will break that trust again. thanks
Graham Ward
April 28
Graham Ward
dont tell anyone i said this either and if you want to later post something about it go ahead. lol. she does seem to be sensitive on the subject of a witch book, but it has a different feel than other things she has been sensitive about, like maybe it is most sensitive compared to other subjects.......
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maybe Billie whacked Hailey in the back of her head with her big heavy black witch book and that is why the book cant be found, it was the murder weapon!!!!
Waiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
If I was to post about the witch book wouldn't that give you away or no?
Graham Ward
April 28
Graham Ward
well put that story in your own words, lol, play it up a little.
you know like,
also in over night PMs someone speculated blah blah blah or something like that
im not the only one that knows about the witch book, that rumor has been around forever, and i dont have any inside info about the book, or that it was used as a weapon. just something to have fun with.
ReplyDeleteWaiting On Justice For Our Girl H.D.
If I was to post about the witch book wouldn't that give you away or no?
That would depend about wich book you were talking?
billienotdunothingkerplunk gets sensitive about more than one book.
She shows sensitivity to Bible quotes or scriptures aparently.
Are you stateing she also owned a thick book on Witch Craft?
Is that what witch book means?
An has alleged book disapeared into thin air?
You know you can cast invisibilety spells with those Witch Books
An invisibility cloak could be very usefull to a certain someone right about now.
Can you imagine the arresting LE Detectives.
Knocking on bndnk door .
KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK.
Who is it?
S C P D Mam we have a warrant for your arrest for the murder of Haikey Dunn.
Emm Im not in at the momment.
sorrry typo HAILEY DUNN
ReplyDeleteI'll try anon 2:01.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree Local Anon; I don't sense much hope (if any) that any arrests will be forthcoming any time soon (if ever) in Haileys' murder. Nor have I had much hope ever since the child porn was discovered and nothing was done about it then or in the next two years either.
ReplyDeletePlease help find Ayla
ReplyDeleteTranscript of Billie Jean Dunn, mother of missing Hailey Dunn, and Carrie McGonagal , mother of missing Amber Dubois, speaking on the Web Sleuths Radio Show - February 12, 2012
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/02/13/websleuths-radio
HOST: Billie are you there?
BJD: yes,
Host: HELP US UNDERSTAND what is true and what is not, okay, so how about this Billie how about if we just start with the day Hailey went missing. Tell us about that day. Tell us WHAT HAPPENED. Walk us through everything that happened that day including WHEN SHE WENT MISSING. AND WHEN YOU FOUND OUT
BJD: okay. Well I HAVE hundreds of TIMEs but I'LL PUT IT OUT, I'LL SAY IT again umm.. SHE WENT missing on MONDAY. I DIDn't FIND OUT till Tuesday. SO MONDAY when I WAS AT work, SHAWN CALLED ME AT SOME POINT IN THE AFTERnoon. I guess it must've been around 330 or four because IT WAS AFTER HAILEY LEFT the house and before David got home SO I ASKED HIM WHAT my kids WE’RE DOING AND HE SAID David isn't home yet and HAILEY WENT TO her dad's and SHE'S spending THE NIGHT with Mary Beth. SO I SAID OKAY. SO THAT NIGHT AFTER I got home, David DID COME IN MY ROOM, AFTER I WAS LAYING DOWN maybe nine or 10 o'clock AND HE SAID mom I DON'T LIKE HAILEY OVER at Mary Beth's her BOYFRIEND'S ALWAYS THERE. And I SAID WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW SHE'S probably going OVER THERE ANYMORE. I WAS little UPSET HAILEY DIDn't clear it with ME ANYHOW - SHE HAD just cleared it WITH SHAWN.
BJD: SO THE NEXT DAY. I THOUGHT she'd spent THE NIGHT WITH A FRIEND. AROUND noon I CALLED David, I SAID GO AHEAD AND CALL Hailey.. Hailey's friend TO TELL her TO TELL Hailey to COME HOME NOW. SO David DID THAT, AND CALLED ME RIGHT back not too long LATER AND SAID "Mom. she SAID HAILEY didn't spend THE NIGHT THERE" AND I SAID GET OVER TO your Dad's because he lives basically across the street. I SAID GO OVER THERE AND SEE if hailey spent THE NIGHT THERE. And THIS WAS already very UNLIKE HAILEY, she never done THIS.
Host: Right So now you're worried
BJD: SO.. RIGHT. I'M already PANICKED. David WENT OVER THERE, CALLED ME BACK SAID "Mom, HAILEY DIDn't stay THE NIGHT THERE". Clint DIDn't HAVE A PHONE. I SAID David TAKE MY PHONE BACK over to your dad's and let me talk to him. SO HE DID. I GOT Clint on THE PHONE and I TOLD HIM I'M COMING home. I WAS at work 20 MILES AWAY, I'M COMING home. YOU GO AHEAD and GO TO THE POLICE STATION AND file a missing persons REPORT. HAILEY IS NOT where she was supposed to be. And I THOUGHT AT THAT TIME. I ASKED had Hailey AT LEAST STOPPED BY THERE . And I THOUGHT THAT HE TOLD ME Naomi SAID SHE DID. BUT I wasn't here I was with MY FRIENDS PLAYING video GAMES.
Host: could you REPEAT THAT.
BJD: Clint SAID THAT Naomi had told him HAILEY DID stop BY MONDAY BUT SHE WASN'T THERE.SHE WASn't THERE. (S)HE DIDN'T SEE HER.
Host: Okay. And Naomi is ?
BJD: Clint's girlfriend
Host: could you please speak up.
THOUGHT THAT HE TOLD ME Naomi SAID SHE DID. BUT I wasn't here I was with MY FRIENDS PLAYING video GAMES.
ReplyDelete....So we see a liar set up the missinformation....I THOUGHT THAT HE TOLD ME HAILEY DID POP OVER...
She has repeated other versions of the saame lie to try an imprint the thought in the publics head that HAILEY WENT OVER TO HER FATHERS.
Like I thought Naomi said she did pop over but only for a little while.
So twice she has used the I THOUGHT Clint told me .But BILLIENOTDUNNOTHING KERPLUNKED .
Never corrects that I THOUGHT was in fact either a MISTAKE
Or A LIE.
Because neither Naomi or Clint it turns out ever said Hailey was over there house that night .
Not even for a little while.
But by throwing that little missinfo into a sentance bndnk thinks we wont notice.
Forinstance when I was in the garden just now I thought I say a U F O.
An then I done a spot of weeding .
Later I find out that there was a weather balloon over head an many people thought they saw a U F O.
But by ommiting to mention this fact I may leave some people with the impression my thought could be true.
ITs called lieing by suggestion incorperating an ommision .
Please help find Ayla
ReplyDeletePeter or blog admins,
Please remove my last post...I regret having published it. Hailey's loved ones are grieving and it was really insensitive. I'm sorry.
I just want to cry sometimes, I cant imagin why people could think BD and SA are not involved.
ReplyDeleteWHY DID THEY LIE about everything?
If they did not do it, then why lie?
Because they are liars
ReplyDeleteBelow is a link for all you BD lovers,who said that CL did not deserve the reward because it was for info for the arrest bla bla bla. The poster says any info for the wereabouts. Give the man the reward!!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_04/e5555a28-21fe-9904-05d7-3752cc63daf3/