Saturday, May 4, 2013

Hailey Dunn, Memorial, Posturing and Emotionalism

Without formal charges being filed, eventually, the remains of Hailey Dunn should be released to next of kin; her parents, Billie Jean Dunn and Clint Dunn.

This is done at the conclusion of the forensic testing, and not before.

The remains may yield clues as to how Hailey died, and even if she suffered beforehand.

A memorial is to allow the innocent to mourn.  There is an entire community that stretches well beyond the geographical boundaries of whom this child touched. There is also an entire community of people, national and international, who insist that the child receive justice.  This has been an emotion that has been repeatedly churned by the aggrevating factors presented by the child's mother, more than anyone else.

Billie Dunn has tweaked the noses of investigators, not something terribly bright when you are a suspect, whether or not this particular word has been uttered to main stream media or not. The moment she failed the polygraph, she was a suspect of, perhaps, even more status than the typical target, mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.

People generally do not like have their noses rubbed in it.  Scott Peterson is likely not death row cellmate of the year due to his corny, over the top, "glorious marriage" like statements, nor his love of the camera.

Billie Dunn has made him look like an amateur.  Now, the memorial is opportunity to photo-op Billie Dunn and rehabilitate her image into grieving mother, rather than image aptly displayed by the affidavit.  Send flowers to help dress up Billie Dunn's image?  No, thank you.

From the very beginning, Dunn loved the spotlight, with concern, yes, about her alibi building, but even this received some fairly heavy competition of her love of attention, as she self-groomed during her self-proclaimed press conference, from her self-written time line, even while her attorney was left with, "What did she do now?!" moments where she even outmaneuvered him in his thirst for attention.

Posturing

We've seen statements that needed no analysis where Dunn transparently attempts to portray herself as in communication with law enforcement.  John Young even told media that he spoke to Curtis Lloyd, of whom he had not.  This signals what you should expect.

As the posturing for attention and potential jury manipulation heats up, we hear Billie Dunn supporters clamoring for justice, but only if it does not include the mother's guilt.  Anyone who questions the mother's participation in the murder is said to be "hurting" Hailey; that is, an emotional and illogical attempt to manipulate.

As the mother is a suspect, and it may be proven that she participated in killing Hailey, her words about others 'hurting' her 'daughter' will be seen as far more than irony, but more of the contempt that she holds for life.

Young needs to be kept on a short leash and will likely be watched carefully by the Bar Association as his prior comments indicate an instability that became evident when he was arrested for pointing a gun at law enforcement while under the influence.  Should he seek to 'kronk' Curtis Lloyd, it will not go well in his own circles and not something that will likely win any influence over a jury.  Recall it was his appearance on television that told locals that there was a blog in Maine with a theory that he wanted silenced.

Why would he care?

The Money

Insidious, the love of money, itself, is the source of nutrient for the noxious, but often powerful weed that chokes the life of everything good around it.  This case is no different.

'Show your love of Hailey' by...giving money, as if a dead child cares about money.  This was similar to the comment about 'if Hailey was alive, she would be upset at this blog' and other such that reveal far more than just being out of touch with reality.  There is always a rush to deify the deceased, but when donations are sought behind it, it becomes as egregious as the mother thanking everyone who failed to find Hailey, while not thanking the one who did find her.

Now, money is sought.

"If you love Hailey, press 1 and donate $10.  
If you love Hailey more than the others on Facebook, press 2 and donate $50.
If you love Hailey more than those who pressed 2, press 3, donate $100, and send an encouraging 'I love you' ringtone to Billie Dunn."

On and on the goofy emotionalism continues.  Those who wish to do something in Hailey's name can pick a charitable organization and give there, so they don't have to worry about money going towards the unseemly, or even the illegal. Hailey can't see the flowers.  Hailey doesn't read blogs.  Hailey is not hurt by those who doubt Dunn. It is a time for sober-minded logic.  There are scholarships that make differences in kids' lives.  There are those who feed hungry children.  There are those who help those who are incapable of helping themselves.

These are worthy memorials, not flowers for the Young-Dunn Photo Ops unless you want to hear him say "see how many people support Billie, uh, I mean, Hailey."

 I don't want to hear it. Send your money to those who will help others in need.

The ones who loved Hailey were those who's feet grew weary from trekking through the ugly fields looking for her.  They loved her.

Even now, Dunn takes shots at law enforcement for not finding her sooner.  Perhaps if she had told them where to look Hailey would have been found on the night Dunn failed the polygraph.  You know the polygraphed:  the one she called the devil, showing just how to get Dunn to react:  Call her a liar and watch her explode in anger.

Plea Bargain

Should Adkins' attorney seek to save his life, the revelations must match the evidence, with nothing held back. We do not know, of yet, what, if any has taken place, but it does not take much imagination to consider that Adkins' family would want him to come clean, and even send an attorney to begin to broker a deal, that is, if a deal can even be brokered.

Fasten your seatbelts.

Billie Dunn responded to this rumor remarking that her daughter was not given a deal.  This, again, is an example of how she projects her own abdicating guilt upon others.  She posted against "pedophiles" and "child murderers" introducing the topic of sexual assault to a case in which there has been no evidence of sexual assault.

Yet, it wasn't the first time Dunn heard this.

In January of 2011, Connie Jones, Hailey's grandmother, told the Nancy Grace Show that she thought Adkins raped her grandchild, and that the mother did nothing about it.

The talking heads appears surprised that Dunn had no reaction so she was finally asked to respond but, on the fly, appearing like a deer in the headlights caught, said, "this is the first I'm hearing of it.  How come nobody told me?"

The talking heads were shocked that Dunn was not shocked.

Surprise, surprise.

Dunn gave her awareness of guilt of a sexual assault in her post calling for Adkins to kill himself for pedophilia and murder even as Hailey's remains were found in an...

ugly field...

in...

Scurry County.

Surprise, surprise, again.

That Hailey may have been a victim of a sexual assault surprises no one, including Dunn.  She was not surprised when Hailey's grandmother pointed it out, nor was she caught off guard in her own recent post, begging the question of just how she knew Shawn Adkins was into pedophilia.  No surprise here, given the magnitude of their obsession with sexual violence against children in capable of self protection, adults and defenseless animals.

It may be that when the final story is told, Connie Jones' story is close, but falls short in the reality of the brutal nature of the killing of a 13 year old.

Even those who see the deception from Dunn from the very beginning, struggle to stomach anything worse than "well, maybe they OD'd her..." hoping for a peaceful death.

Hailey will have a voice, and will speak:

Through forensic science.
Through the prosecutors.
Through the portrayal of all the circumstantial evidence which will show the atmosphere that Hailey was subjected to, groomed within, and finally, died within.

Yes, her mother saw her.  She only "looked like she was sleeping."  This is how we describe dead bodies.

"I didn't touch her."

No, we don't generally like to touch lifeless bodies.  Now she wants anyone who questions her guilt to be guilty of 'hurting' Hailey.  In deed.

Her attorney has been unsuccessful muzzling her and I expect this will continue right on to a trial.  Should prosecutors offer anything in order to save her life, my guess is that Dunn will not go for it.  For  the lawyers, there is not much publicity in plea bargains, but there is a whole lot in a lengthy, emotional, drawn out trial.

In any case, short or long, it will be a circus.
I expect that in any and all possibilities:

Dunn and Young compete for Front and Center.
Media will catch on and begin asking questions, so when Young says he spoke to Mr. Lloyd, media will ask, "Really?  Ok, so what day did you speak to him?", and when Billie Dunn goes from "the FBI is in a conspiracy" to, "I have my own FBI guy", media will ask, "What is the agent's name, Ms. Dunn?"

Officials are not releasing information to the suspects.  It is something not done until discovery.

The length of time of forensic testing should give those of us hoping for justice considerable optimism.

I think the remains have spoken.  I think they may have told a story, already, to those who are carefully listening, and may have given an indication of what Hailey experienced.

I think the remains have spoken.






99 comments:

Nanna Frances said...

Wonderful post. Justice moves slowly. It is moving even now.

Anonymous said...

Peter, thank you for being such a vocal advocate for Hailey.

I hear there were sealed indictments issued by the SCGJ. Many speculate they are for Shawn and Billie, and they will be arrested in the coming week. Have you heard anything about this?



Just waitin' said...

Anon @ 4:03

I hope you are right. Justice for Hailey Darlene Dunn!

Anonymous said...

Interesting Q&A from Justice for Hailey Dunn Facebook page. Hadn't seen this one.

I guess this is an example of what Peter says the FBI will be looking at. Wonder how they would be able to prove it was actually Billie answering the questions?

https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForHaileyDunn/posts/423473547748244

Dee said...

A powerful post Peter, thank you. I could hope Hailey died a peaceful death to make myself feel better but that is not the reality of her life and death. May justice come soon for Hailey. She deserves no less than the full sentence allowable under Texas law be levied against her killers.

Hobnob said...

Well written Peter and spoken from the heart. Dunn knows you and we know the truth, she knows we may not not the exact who did what and when to Hailey. She knows though we know of her involvement from the get go, the murder, the disposal and subsequent cover up, we know because dunn told us, we know because adkins told us.

Her recent distancing from adkins, her aligning with clint, her erasing of david, her claims of no knowledge or involvement were all fortold by Peter, Heather, Kaaryn and sundry commentators here. She is following the expected logical path, she is throwing adkins under the bus to save her own skin. The problem is she left it too late, as soon as the remains were found we knew, the bejavior of dunn and adkins told us it was Hailey, adkins ran to his attorney and is talking for his life. I and many others said first to talk wins the prize, adkins wins. Nothing you can say can trump what he has already said, all you have left is mitigation and that won't be enough. You had a hard childhood, you could have become the parent your parents weren't, you didn't. Instead you dragged Hailey down to your level, she was everything you would never be, she was a rival not your daughter, she had to die so you could be top dog.
Justice is coming and it will mean you die in prison.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
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He called me back within a few minutes to say that HAILEY HADN’T BEEN THERE AND HADN’T STAYED THE NIGHT THERE . I THEN TOLD HIM to walk over to Clint’s TO CHECK WITH HIM. Clint’s phone is broke . so he walked over there, and, called me back told me that Niomi said that HAILEY HAD BEEN OVER THERE FOR A MINUTE ON MONDAY BUT DIDN’T STAY THE NIGHT.



I TOLD DAVID to give the phone to Clint AFTER TELLING CLINT HOW worried I WAS I TOLD HIM I WAS GONNA GET A ride home an report HAILEY MISSING to police. I asked him to call the PD an let ‘em know that I was coming. He agreed to make the call but for some reason he never did.



My sister in law gave me a ride home from Snyder to Colorado City, I STOPPED at the house FIRST TO MAKE SURE Hailey hadn’t come back home. Grabbed MY CELL PHONE, STARTED TEXTING Hailey’s friends, while my sister-in-law to me around to a couple of their houses, BEFORE GOING to the police station.



I got home from the police station around three, SHAWN CALLED ME ON MY CELL AND TALKED to David, who TOLD HIM I WAS GOING… told him WHAT ALL WAS GOING ON.



SO SHAWN left and got to the house around 4 o-clock,( when )me and David. Office Alexander arrived shortly after to TAKE A MORE DETAILED REPORT FROM ME, Um, I’ve just told you everything I KNOW FIRST HAND. THE REST I LEARNED LATER either from David OR SHAWN. I’M GONNA TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THAT,



MONDAY MORNING SHAWN QUIT HIS JOB. He didn’t tell me about this until Wednesday the 29th, I KNEW THAT SHAWN HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT QUITTING, BUT HE KNEW I’D BE MAD IF HE DID.



HE TOLD ME THAT HE WENT INTO WORK MONDAY turning in HIS COVERALLS and TO CLEAN out his locker.



THEN HE WENT TO his grandmothers house in Dunn, Um, but they didn’t answer the door.



SO HE CAME DOWN TO I-20, didn’t come IN TO C CITY, just to I-20, AND WENT to Big Spring.



UM…HE GOT TO Big Spring before 8 0-clock, and HE KNOWS that because his mother WASn’t, HADn’t left for WORK YET



HE STAYED THERE UNTIL JUST AFTER 2, WHEN HE LEFT to come to Colorado City, SHAWN SAID THAT …around 2, he left TO COME TO Colorado City. SHAWN SAID THAT HE DIDN’T GET home UNTIL AROUND OR A LITTLE AFTER 3, HAILEY LEFT just about 15 minutes after he got there.

Lemon said...

It is a hideous irony that only in death is Billie Dunn concerned with others hurting Hailey. Billie Dunn hides behind the shadow of Hailey, urging others to consider Hailey when in reality she seeks only to protect herself.

She who has been given much by many seeks more.
More attention.
More sympathy.
More understanding.

No more, Billie. No more.

Light The Way said...

It figures that low-life skank is trying to profit AGAIN off of the daughter she helped murder and then threw away, like trash...

"Donate" up to $100 and send BILLIE DUNN an 'I love you'
ring-tone?

Um... No.
:/

Anonymous said...

If people donate money, Billie can party down with more style than she did on New Year's. I pray that anyone inclined to give money does what you suggested, Peter... Give to a charity taking care of people with needs.
Her little gathering of nuts are sure hating on you. It's so obvious you have struck a nerve and I hope you continue to jab away!

Anonymous said...

Daaang!!!! Peter, you have put the most ruthless verbal smackdown on BD over the last 2 years but I imagine this post especially will make her teeth grind in anger. As a faithful reader I appreciate that youve kept Hailey's right to justice alive. When there was nothing new to report you would repost the known facts, and personally the regular reminders made Hailey and this whole case grow close to my heart. Because I believe in SA and am confident your reasons for writing this blog come from a good honest desire for truth & justice all you gotta do is say the word and I'm on board-I want Hailey to have a funeral befitting a princess but BD wont get a penny from me.

NVmomma702

Anonymous said...

This Hailey blog post "Hailey Dunn, Memorial, Posturing and Emotionalism" is EXCELLENT and one of the BEST Hailey posts you've posted

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lake erie princess said...

IMO ANY Mother who can plan & attend a New Years Eve party WHEN her daughter is missing is GUILTY as sin.

I never wanted to consider that Billie Dunn & Shawn Adkins hurt Hailey until New Years Eve.

IF my daughter were missing I would NOT party or socialize. I would be moving heaven & earth to find her & crying my eyes out.

Billie Dunn is a poor excuse for a Mother. She was incubator for the fetus that is it !

Anonymous said...

Whoa Lake Erie ! I forgot about the New Year's Eve party!

ecossie possie said...

He called me back within a few minutes to say that HAILEY HADN’T BEEN THERE AND HADN’T STAYED THE NIGHT THERE . I THEN TOLD HIM to walk over to Clint’s TO CHECK WITH HIM. Clint’s phone is broke . so he walked over there, and, called me back told me that Niomi said that HAILEY HAD BEEN OVER THERE FOR A MINUTE ON MONDAY BUT DIDN’T STAY THE NIGHT.



I TOLD DAVID to give the phone to Clint AFTER TELLING CLINT HOW worried I WAS I TOLD HIM I WAS GONNA GET A ride home an report HAILEY MISSING to police. I asked him to call the PD an let ‘em know that I was coming. He agreed to make the call but for some reason he never did


Ermm Doh but could it be something to with Clint Dunn Didnt use the phone becuase you just gone an tolds us.

Preivious couple of sentaces you just told us CLINTS PHONE WAS BROKE.

So I told him to phone LE an them them know im on my way an for some reason he didnt?

BROKEN PHONE MAYBE.

Hey Clint I know your pphones broke an all.
An Ive been an gone included that fact in my ALIBI TIME LINE.

But could you go ahead an phone the police up an let them know Im on my way to report Hailey as STOLE on your broken phone.

An oh for some reason I will lie an say your girlfreind said Hailey popped over for just aa minute.

Dropped an earing maybe as well stageing or lieing about earing an the minute HAILEY NEVER POPPED OVER ON THE MONDAY NIGHT.

How could she as she was either already dead an been disposed off?
On the day your Daughter vanishes your boyfreinds entire day is anucounted for .
And your at work
.
The day your Daughter got stole your boy freind quits his job.
No he went in the job an then walked of the job thats abandonment of employment a fireing.

But although his entireday is unucounted for that dont mean nothing because .

Ah Hem the P O I saw an alive HAILEY when he got home from?

Where ever he was but it defo couldnt have been to dispose of my Daughters BODY CORPSE because she was still alive.

Aneven a neighbour saw her in the garden so that proves it
I was at work shawnboy was on a magical mystery Bullis Ferrir day of meets Jason Voorhees tour.

But thats irrelivant an not at all susppisious because she was alive to tell him about the sleepover an visit to Clints an all.

So many of thease murderous parents get away because the remains of small baby .Lisa or Hailigh Cummings are never found .

Or are burried to hard some where in the dirt .
So no body no proof of murder.
It was the mysterious in through the window silent kidnapper .
We all know that guy .

But HAILEYS no longer missing she is found .

And the two demons that stole her life.
Will pay.

PS Im from the UK broken phones over here means a phones out of commision,
Does it mean something different in pilliebillienotdunnothing county?

.

S

ecossie possie said...

Or I suppose she alleges she meant for Clint to use the phone DAVID was useing

HER MOBILE

SHE LEFT AT HOME FOR THE KIDS TO USE = HAILEY DAVID..

She always leaves her phone home when shes at work.
Because that what a good mom she is.

AND yet HAILEY was home alone when she learned of this SLEEP OVER.
Im assumeing HAILEY was not PHYCHIC .
And didnt know shawnboy had done his weird in an out shake it all about at work.

So would have no idea that he would be home early so SHE could inform him about the sudden sleepover.

So obviously then she would have USED the PHONE billienotdunnothing always left HOME for her Kids.

Exactly for that sort of reason.
Hey good moomy there been an accident .

Hey good moomy I feel sick an can you get me some asprin on the way home

Or hey ggod mommy Ive just been invited to a sleep over at Mary Beths You wanna call her mom an see if its cool?

I lurve you good cosiderate leave the phone home for me moomy.

But know HAILEY never used the phone to tell her mom she wasnt going to be home that night.

An seems she was headin out into the wild blue thin air without telling anyone .

Untill good ole shawnboy saved the day by returning home early enough .
To catch her ten minutes or so before she popped out for ever.

christy said...

Justice for Hailey is closing in.

Great article, Peter, thank you.

dadgum said...

To us, limited in what we are told, yet firm in our belief of what justice is, it may feel like Friday. Time moves slowly, and it seems as though nothing is happening. It's been Friday long enough.

Sunday's coming.

Pack your toothbrush Billy..

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla

HE STAYED THERE until just after 2, when HE LEFT TO COME TO Colorado City, SHAWN SAID THAT …around 2, HE LEFT TO COME TO Colorado City. SHAWN SAID THAT HE DIDN’T GET home UNTIL AROUND OR A LITTLE AFTER 3, HAILEY LEFT just about 15 minutes after he got there.
May 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Anonymous said...

PRONOUNS

Anonymous said...

There is a scholarship fund in Hailey's name established. Those who wish to donate, the address to the school will be added to this post. Please do not fall into the "Memorial" donations some are pushing. A scholarship will help a student attend college, in Hailey's name. That is the best memorial ever. My money has already been sent to the school.

If you want to donate directly to the scholarship: Colorado School business office, 1132 Hickory St. Colorado City, Tx 79512 and put ATTN HAILEY DUNN SCHOLARSHIP on it. and THANK YOU!!!

BostonLady said...

Excellent article Peter !! Billie doesn't want anyone at the memorial who does not believe her lies. Billie forgets, this isn't HER memorial. This is for HAILEY. Yes, it is her daughter but it still does not make it the Billie memorial. And did Billie forget that there are other family members on Clint's side that also love Hailey and they may have input on how they might like this handled???

Hailey Dunn. The innocent victim in this ugly horrific murder. A beautiful young girl whose life was taken from her brutally. And then Hailey was left in the ugly fields, all alone, to waste away. No one who loved her could go to visit her at her grave. And now Hailey's mother is trying to prevent those same people from attending her memorial.

While Billie is maneuvering to try to close off the memorial to "private", she is also posting on FB HFH saying that LE is keeping her up to date on the in's and out's of the investigation and that Hailey's remains will be released to her. Hmmmm But her lawyer, John Young, stated in the news, just the day before Billie's post that LE has NOT contacted nor spoken with Billie since Hailey's remains were identified. HMMMMMMMMM Who is lying???

Bottom line, people around the country and out of this country want to honor Hailey's short life. I would think that the mother would be proud to know how much Hailey was loved. Some want to give to Laura Recovery Center in Hailey's honor. LRC did so much to help with the searches and this organization continues to help around the country with other missing children. Some want to give to Hailey's scholarship. Some want to send flowers. I would think that any gift in Hailey's name would be appreciated and not looked down upon because it isn't "flowers".

Justice for Hailey.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
There is a scholarship fund in Hailey's name established. Those who wish to donate, the address to the school will be added to this post. Please do not fall into the "Memorial" donations some are pushing. A scholarship will help a student attend college, in Hailey's name. That is the best memorial ever. My money has already been sent to the school.

If you want to donate directly to the scholarship: Colorado School business office, 1132 Hickory St. Colorado City, Tx 79512 and put ATTN HAILEY DUNN SCHOLARSHIP on it. and THANK YOU!!!
May 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM


Help a child and avoid being scammed by Billie Dunn and her followers. This sounds worthy.

Get Real said...

Wow, that post was very moving. Good job Peter. So glad I have this blog to come to for updates on Hailey.

Somehow this post gave me a sense of hope in that these two monsters will get what's coming to them.
I was loosing faith that justice would ever come for Hailey until now.

ima.grandma said...

Well written, Peter. I can feel your big heart coming through all over the place in this article. It's apparent this blog has nothing to do with the search for money or fame.

This a is calling for you.

Red Ryder said...

I agree with the others, this is a great post. Yes, a trial would be a circus~clowns everywhere (at least on defense). I'm undecided as to why Mr. Young hasn't left BD yet. She doesn't follow his counsel, shoots herself in the foot on a regular basis, is a raging narcissist with crazy plans, no money, and is a massively unsympathetic character
Hailey's voice will not tell us what was done to her but her remains can show what was and how she came to lie alone in an ugly field in Scurry County.
It is incredible that she talks to the press and she thinks anyone buys her bs. I suspect the only kind of emotionality people in the area have regarding BD is anger. Didn't a local anon share recently that most people feel SA and BD are responsible for Hailey's,now proven, death? BD must be oblivious!
If true, good news about the sealed warrants from the grand jury. It would be encouraging to see the tide of cihild murderers, as BD called it, begin to turn with the trial and conviction of Hailey's killers.
Peace, little one, may you be at peace and may justice be yours.
.

ecossie possie said...

ima.grandma said...
Well written, Peter. I can feel your big heart coming through all over the place in this article. It's apparent this blog has nothing to do with the search for money or fame.

This a is calling for you.

Either ancoure ditto or there an acho in here.

My favourate blog .

Here an the Hinky Meter where the only blogs I ever read an first discovered the innerweb at the age of 46 eight years ago.

IVE always been a bit of a ludite an was very slow to catch on to the on line world.
An even slower to figure out how to navigate an operste my way round a pc or the web.

I once had an help line opperater hang up on me .
Id just received the pc lap top an got it conected ect.

Had to pay some tech dude to set up every thing rueter ect
I litterlt didnt have a clue or under stan the jargon.

So I say to him ok turn it on show me how this conrapton works.

So he tuens it on a button to get the menu up an starts appin away ..This is your menu bkah blah click on this here to get on this an blah

Im like whoa there
Explain like your talking to an idiot.
What you mean you click on what are you clicking.

An whats a mouse pad an so he expains a few basics an says .
You useally use this side of the click the left side to get up the option menu ect its easy.

You click on what ever the internet or pictures or games ect.

So he leaves an within half an hour Im tottaly baffled an my Wife knows nothing anout pc either so Im stuck.

I phone some help line with the PC
Toshiba i i r c .

So I cant even remember what my problem was.

Anyway I get this ever so nice young lady on the telephone .
An shes explaing some thing to me.


Patiebt and kind so She says you see that little arrow on the screen.
Yes I reply.

I want you to move it up to control panel on the right of your menu an click on control panel ok
Have you done that

I answer yes .

Good she says now I want you to point the arrow to options an right click a grey menu box will apear an then click on

Whoa Whoa I say hold up your going way to fast.

Start again I say an slower .

So she slowkry repeats right click
Have ypou done so
YES .

You now have a grey menu box with options

Me emm no.

O K Then we will start again she say s.

You are on control panel correct yes your pointing the cursur arrow to options /
YES

You right click an no grey menu apears.
You may have to return your pc or get an engineer must be a fault.

Lets try one more time cursor on options you right click an no
Menu apears .

Me yup.

ME Do I have to write click in any particular way?
Does it have to be tapped in as Capitals or small letters.

Excuse me she said.

Me When I write click does it have to be in CAPITAL or small letters.

Thats when she hung up on me.

dadgum said...

rofl..
my kids made fun of me because I once used as much as 6 minutes on my cell phone. Why? they asked..Why 6 minutes in a month?

'Well, it must have been an emergency..'

I miss Val..

Anonymous said...

Cute story ECO :)

JerseyJane said...

I shudder when I think of how one mother has made thousands upon thousands of children from Haileys hometown and neighboring communities her victims....

This mothers evil started with what her daughter tortureously endured, then next sent out her son to be the one to frantically discover his sister to be missing(what mother does that?), and last spilled out in to ALL the children of the community with her telling of lies of adduction and vanishing into thin air...Thousands upon thousands of frightened children...

This mother has destroyed, tampered, and toyed with the greatest gift in life, childrens' innocence..

Please support the children, that's what it is really all about.....

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
just about 15 minutes AFTER HE GOT THERE.

DAVID told me that he AND A FRIEND CAME HOME MONDAY sometime between 4 and 5, THE DOOR WAS LOCKED. HE knocked for SEVERAL MINUTES, BEFORE reaching in through the glass, WAS, HAD BEEN BROKEN OUT, HAILEY broke it with a basket ball. HE REACHED in through there and unlocked THE DOOR. WHEN DAVID AND FRIEND WERE COMING IN the house SHAWN WAS COMING FROM MY BEDROOM, WHERE HE’D BEEN watchin tv, THEY ALL SAID Hi What’s Up to each other, then SHAWN RETURNED TO (MY bedroom, SORRY), and David and his friend went to David’s room. SHAWN REMAINED home until HE LEFT TO GO PICK ME up from work.

ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION is that it’s been reported that we hosted a New Years Eve party AT OUR HOUSE. THIS IS AN ABSURDITY BEYOND BELIEF, MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY WERE AT MY HOUSE TO BE WITH ME in this time of distress and to WORRY ABOUT HAILEY.


While I SINCERELY APPRECIATE the time and effort of law enforcement agents, that law enforcement agents are putting in to investigate HAILEY’S DISAPPEARANCE, I DO not UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SEEMED TO HAVE DISREGARDED ALL OF THE WITNESSES WHO’VE COME FORWARD TO SAY THEY SAW HAILEY… ON MONDAY DECEMBER 27TH. Two of MY NEIGHBORS came forward to say THEY SAW HAILEY IN MY BACK YARD around noon, another s… neighbor …said he saw Hailey and a small dark boy, probably Naomi’s son, two times between 10:30 and noon. A WOMAN WHO KNOWS HAILEY and the friend SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO spend the night with, SAW THEM BOTH WALKING TOGETHER, in front of Alco around 8:30 p.m. . THIS WOMAN WAS returnin A MOVIE to the Red Box and passed by them. SHE STILL HAD A RECEIPT, and BROUGHT IT by AND SHOW IT TO ME THE OTHER DAY with the date of the 27th and the time of 8:36,

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
I ALSO don’t UNDERSTAND LAW ENFORCEMENTS RELUCTANCES TO PUBLICALLY NAME ANY OTHER PERSONS OF INTEREST, FOR WHAT I ever reason THEY ARE UNABLE TO LOCATE someone to question them, then WHY NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MEDIA, to get their name and description out, and let public FIND THEM.

Investigators KEEP TELLING ME ABOUT NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE, THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN QUESTIONING, but there is no sense of urgency to actually get it done.

It has been over a month SINCE HAILEY HAS DISAPPEARED, KNOWING THAT someone might have information ABOUT HAILEY but law enforcement have still not gotten around to questioning them, IS DISTURBING ME.
WHILE I’M not TRYING TO DEFLECT SUSPICION AWAY from anyone, I DO ABSOLUTELY WANT every SINGLE PERSON who may have information ABOUT HAILEY OR HER whereABOUTs CHECKED-OUT.

IN MY MIND not HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS is negligence.

IT’S BEEN OVER a month, and WE SEEM NO CLOSER to KNOWING WHERE HAILEY IS, then WE DID IN THE BEGINNING. SHE NEEDS TO BE FOUND, to come home to be surrounded by everyone who loves her.

I WANT TO TAKE this opportunity to thank my family and friends, who continue to stand by AND SUPPORT ME UNCONDITIONALLY, and are always THERE FOR ME, I WANT TO THANK Mark Klass and Brad Guiness who are both GREAT GUYS, THAT ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to find Hailey. For continuing to stay in contact with me and offer their help. THANK-YOU TO the Laura Recovery Center who came down and organized searches and trained volunteers. Thank-you to ALL THE PEOPLE who have searched FOR HAILEY, to EVERYONE WHO’S PRAYING for Hailey’s safe return, and EVERYONE WHO’S BROUGHT ME everything from cooked meals to groceries, to Find Hailey T-shirts, and hand made cards.

Thank you to Denna with the Summer Tomson Foundation , who AWARDED ME A GRANT, THANKS TO THE MEDIA who are keeping Hailey’s picture on TV and in the newspapers, so that she is in the front of everyones mind.

Although I HAVE not AND WILL not ASK FOR MONEY I GREATLY appreciate those who have found it in there hearts to WANT TO HELP ME.

WHAT I WANT MOST ARE your prayers FOR HAILEY’S safe RETURN.

There are some people who are GOING AROUND DEMANDING OR BEGGING FOR MONEY, I’M DISGUSTED WITH these individuals, who never held down jobs, are EXPLOITING HAILEY TO GET A HANDOUT.

I’VE ALWAYS WORKED AND SUPPORTED MY KIDS BY MYSELF, AND I WILL RETURN TO work as soon as I’M ABLE. SORRY..(COUGH/SMILE) I DO not WANT A HAND-OUT. And if anyone asks for MONEY ON MY BEHALF, PLEASE KNOW THE REQUEST isn’t coming from me, and I’m not getting money.

I DO HOPE THIS WILL LAY TO REST the confusion and speculation surrounding HAILEY’S DISAPPEARANCE, on MY PART ANYWAY. I DO not want to have to DEFEND MYSELF or anyone else, I ONLY WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON HAILEY, and everything THAT CAN BE DONE to bring her BACK HOME.

I WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD ONTO the hope THAT HAILEY IS ALIVE and she’ll be home soon. I ask that everyone out there also hold onto the hope that she is alive,

PLEASE CONTINUE TO look for Hailey when you’re in a store or when you’re driving down the street, where ever you go, what ever you do PLEASE DON’T GIVE UP hope that my daughter Hailey is alive and OUT THERE SOME WHERE.

Thank-you everybody that came out and everybody that can all of that aired, or typed up. Um…I just really appreciate all you guys coming out and giving me the opportunity TO CLEAR THAT UP.

~ABC said...

Fantastic post Peter. Thank you for all that you do!

Anonymous said...

You have said that no legitimate professional out there has spoken in support of Billy based on the evidence. Yet on here I have read comments from doctors, lawyers, body language experts, mothers, psychologists, psychiatrists, pharmacists, social workers, LE, practioners, neuroscientists, teachers, writers, analysts, journalists, researchers, college professors, detectives, and many more I am sure, too numerous to remember, all among the elitist of society and all citing facts of Billy's guilt. I just wanted to point this out. I am sure you realize this, too, but its meaningful to me. This was one of the best you've written.

Red Ryder said...

In case anyone else was following the 5/2 disappearance of Mandy Matula, 24, of Eden Prairie, Mn...the poi soon to be ex-bf who shot himself in the head on 5/3(on his way to police for questioning) has died without communicating where Mandy is. Large search efforts for recovery of Mandy's body under way.
This is the 3rd partner/domestic homicide against a woman in the Minneapolis area in the past 6 months:(

Blaze said...

Great article! Bravo!

Justice For Hailey!!

audpaud said...

Who will cut the best deal and talk first? The truth will lie somewhere in between the best deal maker...just like stripper pole...my $$ is on BJD!

lane said...

OT
Slain Iowa girl's funeral open to the public
May 4th, 2013 by Chelsea Hoffman

IOWA

Slain Iowa girl to be laid to rest
The funeral for Elizabeth Collins is going to be held today May 4, 2013 at Waterloo Memorial Park Cemetery in Waterloo, Iowa. This comes five months after her body, and the body of her cousin Lyric, was located in a wooded area by hunters. She and her cousin had been missing for several months -- presumed kidnapped -- and were reportedly murdered. This Omaha news source reports that the funerals of these two young girls took so long, because of the length of time taken for their autopsies.

Last month Lyric Cook was finally laid to rest in a private ceremony, but today's funeral for Elizabeth Collins will be open to the public. This will give the community of Waterloo the ability to come together in remembrance, as many of them contributed to the search for the two Iowa cousins when they were missing throughout the summer and fall of 2012.

As for the investigation behind the girls' murders, there don't appear to be any updates. The cause of death has not been released, even though the autopsies have been complete for over a month. Do officials even know how they were killed or are they holding this information tightly to their collective chests to keep the killer out-of-the-know? Hopefully in time the senseless murders of these two children will be solved.

On Sunday May 5, 2013 there will be a special podcast to commemorate the funerals of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins, as well as a discussion about how to prevent missing children's cases like this one. The creator of Cousin's Law will be available to answer questions while this case is recapped. In the meantime, the investigation continues with no answers.

http://www.examiner.com/article/slain-iowa-girl-s-funeral-open-to-the-public

tick tock said...

The discovery of Haileys remains reminds of the story/film
"the Lovely Bones." I pray that Haileys remains will tell the true story behind her murder and hold all that took part in her death accountable.

S + K Mum said...

I enjoyed your post Peter, I think it sums up how most of us feel and what our hopes are for justice.

I accept there will always be supporters of BJD and the like but what I struggle to accept is their and BJD's focus of spouting venom rather than worrying that murderer(s) are in their midst, capable of killing their children. Wether they believe it is BJD/SA or not. A child murderer! Who has/have been free for two years longer than they should!

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dadgum said...

What is with the angel pics? People don't "grow into angels". As a mom, I would find these upsetting and creepy..

dadgum said...

apologies..
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/21201_647369118613534_131686207_n.jpg

Katie said...

This gives some balance to the drama going on and some firm footing on which to stand for those of us teetering with our own emotionality. Emotions are running high. Yes, they are trying to use Hailey to tug at our heartstrings. I look at photos of Hailey and her sweet face and my thoughts turn to her laying in that field for over 2 years and then I get angry. A skull, a partial skull. That is Hailey. How could her mother allow her daughter to lay out there until what's left is a skull? A partial skull? And a few bones. A loose tooth? Now, my thoughts go to how and why there is a loose tooth. Peter, as you said, we wish it was an overdose because maybe then Hailey would not have suffered. I have a hard time writing down what I think could have happened to her because it is so horrible.

Peter, you said "The ones who loved Hailey were those who's feet grew weary from trekking through the ugly fields looking for her. They loved her." Past tense. The searchers still love her. One of her parents loved her enough to grow weary from searching. They loved her. They loved her while she was alive. They are grieving, not on FB asking for flowers.

You also said, "I think the remains have spoken. I think they may have told a story, already, to those who are carefully listening, and may have given an indication of what Hailey experienced."

I am trying to use SA 101 to understand. I hope the remains have told a story.

Katie said...
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Peter Hyatt said...

Katie,

yours was a good, honest, and soul-searching post. I find honesty, especially in light of the emotions generated, to be refreshing.

I used "past tense" of "loved" specifically, and I looked for comments to see if it would provoke any emotions, and in your case (and likely others, it did.).

I did not know Hailey. I did not meet her, talk to her, or find out what she is like.

Love seeks the highest good of its object. To "love" someone is to show kindness, mercy, and goodness towards, so much more so than it is a feeling or emotion. ("affections")

I may or may not have kindly and warm affections towards someone, yet I can still "love" them, that is, show kindness towards them.

This is where love becomes a commandment, rather than an oft-changing emotion.

I understand that some will refuse love, but even those I have known who have felt emotions grow cold, but continue to show kindness and duty, have said "emotions returned over time" and were not led, nor enslaved by emotions.

It does not make for good drama. Better is the 17 year old girl who "has to follow her heart" into ruination than the stodgy old mother who seeks to bring sobriety in romance, or the disapproving father who "only knows how to balance a checkbook."

Via Hollywood, and the dumbing down of America in skool, we have become a flippant people. This is why we have the "who loves Hailey the most?" contest, and it is why I find your post so refreshing for its honesty.

It is common for all of us to fight our emotions, but it is uncommon to see people follow after that which is right.

Like the Casey Anthony jury, "I think she did it, but they didn't prove it" leading us to ask, "if they didn't prove it, why do you think it?"

Facts.

Logic isn't even taught much, anymore, and it certainly isn't displayed much on Facebook.

Fact:

Hailey Dunn was raised in a perverse sexualized environment in which violence and sex were organically linked.

It was not a hobby, but an obsession for the mother and her boyfriend, with all sorts of literature on sexual killings.

Now mix in drugs, which lowers resistance to the evil.

Next:

The 13 year old ended up dead.

Next:

The mother and boyfriend failed polygraphs. She invented her own story from one of her murder hobby stories.

We do the math.

Thanks for an interesting post. I wish more would show your honesty.

Peter

Nanna Frances said...

dadgum,

That picture is sick!!

dadgum said...
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dadgum said...

Twas I who deleted..
Billie's profile pic..there are several on the Hailey discussion fb page..Disturbing.

(((hugs Nanna)))

Child Advocate said...


Peter,

Thank you for another post seeking justice. This one hit me emotionally more than the others. I find myself crying for all Hailey could have been.

Your search for justice for murdered children is inspiring. You've done so much for children you've never met, more than their parents. For this, I thank you.

Watching BJD try to manipulate the public angers me. I'm slow to anger, yet BJD has had me angry from the beginning. She constantly puts herself before her children. What parent does that? The proof is in the pudding, only a bad one does. No matter how she postures, you've showed us the truth. Unfortunately I don't see an end to BJD's games. Fortunately you'll be there to shine the light.

My question, after all this time, why has BJD not thanked Curtis? She has taken clues from your blog and tried to change certain behaviors, we still see thru them, but she has attempted to change. Yet she has never thanked Curtis.

Nanna Frances said...

This article is old but it is one with quotes from Shawn Adkins' lawyer.

http://www.newswest9.com/story/17234566/shawn-adkins-lawyer-speaks-to-clear-up-unanswered-questions

Anonymous said...

Is that real? The if you love Hailey more button thing?
Yikes where the hell did peoples brains go?

Anonymous said...

Peter, this is an old interview from baby Azaria Chamberlain. The woman how said the Dingo ate her baby. I see a lot of similarities in her statements that I see with BD. Because/so/then and so on. I detect deception based on what I've learned from you on this blog. But I would love to know you're thoughts on this. Once you open the link to the left it will say "Lindey's interview with police"

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/chamberlain/chamberlaininterview.html

christy said...

>>Is that real? The if you love Hailey more button thing?
Yikes where the hell did peoples brains go?<<
I want to know, too. I don't have FB. How disgusting!!

christy said...

Lane, thank you for posting about Lyric and Elisabeth. I lost track of their story somehow and did not know that their remains were located. RIP sweet girls :(

dadgum said...

I don't see it..I took it as hyperbole. I have no idea how many sites there are, just Billies and this one (you can look w/out fb, I think)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hailey-Dunn-Updates-Discussion/210253018991815?fref=ts

Lis said...

This is from NannaFrancis' link to the old interview with SA lawyer:

"During the investigation, court documents said a search of the family's home found a box containing hundreds of documents focused on mass murderers, serial killers and murders of family members.

Eyssen said this was all based on Shawn's interest in film and literature. Another court document states over 100,000 images of child porn and bestiality were found on a computer at the home of Shawn Adkins' mother in Big Spring.

"We have never, despite numerous requests, confirmed from law enforcement that there have been any of those items discovered and if they have been discovered, which we don't know that, they have not come from any source attributed to Shawn," Eyssen said."

-The part about "film and literature" made me snort- "Eyssen said this was all based on Shawn's interest in film and literature."
Ah, so it's 'film and literature' is it.

To be a lawyer, you have to be someone who can say *anything* with a straight face. lol

melvania said...

This Mother's Day, give her the gift she's been waiting for. A luxurious stay in a 6x8 ft cell. It's the perfect gift.

Lemon said...

^^^ All expenses paid, no fundraising required.^^^

S + K Mum said...

Ah that would be the perfect Mother's Day gift :)

The angels pics of BJD and Hailey....my mouth fell open when I saw them.

Anonymous said...

Billie's Facebook banner (her older facebook Bille Jean Dunn facebook) with a winged Hailey in the left corner:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002820774597&sk=about

Notice the picture is all about Billie: Billie upfront and her skin and hair and dress are n full bright vivid colour; Hailey is in the background and Hailey's skin colour is negatively saturated, washed out muted, gray-tinged, dare-I-say-it CORPSE-coloured

Notice the messages is about Billie: "Luv U Mom"

Notice Hailey's angel wings are all about Billie: instead of the wings lifting Hailey into the Heavens, instead of Hailey's arms uplifted to flap her wings and soar to the Heavens, her corpse-coloured arms are hanging at her sides and the golded-tinged wings are stretched towards and around Billie

Billie and the wings in full natural vivid colour but Hailey the colour of a corpse


DISGUSTING

ARREST Pillie Jean NotDunnNothingKerlunk

ARREST Shawn "Killing A Little Is Just Like Killing A Dear & I Love Hailey With All My Heart And All My Soul But I Cannot Same The Same Of Billie Even Though Billie Is My Fiance" Adkins

NOW!

JerseyJane said...

It was/ is Billie's Birthday, right now, give or take a day or two. It was in affidavit, sometime beginning in May.
I'm glad Peter wrote a special greeting for her.(sarcasm)

I'm sure, young thing, in her mind only, is whooping it up...Maybe soon a belated birthday present, an arrest warrant will come knocking on her door....


Anonymous said...

Can some one post the pic on here or in Peter fb page ? Of Billie pilly wanna be Dunn pic of Hailey ??

Anonymous said...

You will see the pics on Hailey Dunn Discussion fb group - its an open group so anyone can see them.

~ABC said...

Here's another interesting thing about that picture dadgum. Billie's face in that pic is taken from the pic of Billie in front of the bathroom mirror that Peter posted on this blog. Someone photoshopped more appropriate clothing onto her. Hmmmmm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/21201_647369118613534_131686207_n.jpg

Ya gotta wonder who created that :-)

Peter Hyatt said...

I have begun the Dingo Ate My Baby analysis...

perhaps ready by tonight or tomorrow morning.

Dropped pronoun by me due to the abundant sunshine in Northern Maine today.

Peter

~ABC said...

Something else about that pic, it makes me think of the ridiculous silly string birthday party that Darlie Routier staged.

dadgum said...

There is so much wrong with those pictures, 'gum was nearly speechless. An unusual happening!

I hope for justice soon..for those who hurt and killed Hailey, and for any who seek to profit from her death.

The week between birthday and Mothers Day will do just fine..

Baxtie said...

RE: Dingo ate my baby

Last June, the coroner ruled that Azaria Chamberlain was indeed eaten by a dingo.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/coroner-rules-dingo-killed-azaria-chamberlain/4065802

Here's the actual coroner's report:
http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/courtsupp/coroner/findings/other/chamberlain_findings.pdf

Anonymous said...

Billie Dunn was very very confused and upset that her child was missing, and I would not expect that she would be able to pass a lie detector test. Shawn had child pornography, which Billie probably did not realize, and where does child pornography come from. It comes from very very sick people, and they very well could have stalked Hailey, and Shawn being young and dumb, may not have realized just how perverted and sick these people that gave him the Child Pornography was. People are usually trusting, so, I would think that either Shawn did it, or the people that he got the child pornography from stalked Hailey and were watching her and grabbed her when she went outside the home, never to be seen again. I feel so sorry for this Mother, even though she may have been on drugs, these perverts that sell this child pornography, they have to somehow get the children to do this stuff, or kidnap these children, and Lord only knows that they must be extremely mental ill, and they may target people with children that have criminal records so, the police will focus on the parents, and not look elsewhere. You know police really really do not like people that do drugs, and most of them just do not understand people that do drugs, and they think they are not right in the mind! I just do not feel that Billie Dunn has one thing to do with what happened to Hailey, and just because she tried drugs does not mean she is guilty of harming her child. There are some really really mentally ill people in this world that like to hurt kids and go to great links not to get caught for it, plan it out and wait for an opportunity to kidnap a child, from what I have read. I hope that people will be a little more sensitive to Billie Dunn, she is missing her baby, and going through alot of pain right now.

Anonymous said...

@ Dingo Baby case: over the decades, multiple coroners and multiple forensic investigators ruled the death a homicide

Anonymous said...

I heard that witch still hasn't returned to CC. Rumor has it that she can't get her sorry butt of the computer long enough to make the trip.

Anonymous said...

Was anon at 4:47 suppose to be a paradox or satirical? Sometimes I am a little slow at getting mockery.

Lis said...

I think it's someone who has not read any of the analysis of Billie Dunn's statements, lol

Peter, have you ever thought about putting a menu on your blog with links to each major case you have covered with all the posts regarding that case organized underneath, so new people could easily start at the beginning and catch up?

Red Ryder said...

Anon 4:47 Riiiight. (Lis, giving you a heads up that this is meant sarcastically :)
Holy smokes! The Facebook angel picture is horrific! BD radiant and Hailey, well corpse gray is exactly the right description. I have had more internal shivers over this case than any other. Brrrr!

Red Ryder said...

Whoops, my bad! Heads up was for Anon 5:50 not Lis :)

christy said...

Omigosh! Those pictures.
What an incredibly creepy page.

cant believe people believe billies lies said...

Anon 447. You might be able to get that crock of crap to fly if you were talking about Billies supporter Glenedene but you aren't. You are talking about Billie Jean ostrander Dunn, the egg donor who talked of her daughter in the past tense from the very beginning without being able to say her name or shed a true tear. I do not want to believe any mother could hurt or allow anyone to hurt their own flesh and blood child but it happens, unfortunately. You might be able to get that crock of crap to be believable if Hailey hadn't been found close to home in Scurry county in the ugly fields her "mother" told us about. Shawn was honest during his lie detector when he said scurry county, look at both of us. It's when they attempted to get more specific that he began being deceptive and walked out. Check the affidavits, then go try to blow smoke up someone else's ass because the people here do not believe you.

Anonymous said...

ANNON 4:47 sensitive to Billie Dunn? We are not on her fb page blasting her. We are here and free to write what we feel. Deception has been detected in almost everything Billie has said. She has lied. We know this. She lied to police and the recanted.

Her credibility has been shot down by her own mouth.
Tried drugs? She was/is a drug USER not a "taste-tester"!
She used donation $ to buy flat screen t.v.s/clothing/cell phones hair-dos and makeovers, and yeah, probably drugs too. She was in home made porn videos with sean to include bestiality. That is against the law. She is sick! She is a liar. And most of us here believe that she knows/or caused what happened to Hailey.
We don't go to her page and say these things. We are a group who shares the same views and have this place to come to thanks to this blog. YOU don't need to come here and tell us to be "sensitive" to Billie. Sounds to me like you're a big fan of hers so she has yet another supporter who she can cash in on.

I am sick of "sensitive" people such as yourself who support parents who we know are suspects in their own child murder cases. I'll bet you were a big supporter of Casey Anthony, too. Keep patting Billie DUN-NOTHING on the back and wipe away her tears cause I think you are in for a rude awakening once you hear the evidence against her.

Please!

cant believe people still believe billie said...

I should say Glenedene did not do drugs or have anything to do with her precious daughter's disappearance.

cant believe people believe billie said...

Another thing, anon 447, check the affidavits date for when the lie detector test was administered. Make sure you read where Shawn is also honest when he states they had friends over on new years eve for drinks. What "grieving" (which you are trying to make us believe) would have friends over for drinks a few days after reporting their daughter, Hailey( yes that is her name) missing?
This is another reason no one here believes you, Billie or the crock of crap you are trying to sell.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
I TOLD DAVID to give the phone to Clint
AFTER TELLING CLINT HOW worried I WAS ................... I TOLD HIM I WAS GONNA GET A ride home an report HAILEY MISSING to police. I asked him to call the PD an let ‘em know that I was coming. He agreed to make the call but for some reason he never did


Ermm Doh but could it be something to with Clint Dunn

Chose a name said...

Re: billies response to Fb angel pics. I must preface this by reminding people who is really into photoshop and continually posts photoshop pictures on her own fb page - that woul be Billie - bet my bottom dollar she created these, But, she pretends to thank someone else and state how badly she needed these pic. Every year, millions of dollars are spent on prepaid funeral, long term health care and estate planning. Why? Because loving parents cannot bear the thought of their child being burdened with the parents care. Not, Billie. She is comforted knowing Hailey is now in heaven to wrap her gentle wings around poor Biilie. Sick! At some point down the road, a parent might receive a bit of comfort knowing they will see their child in heaven someday. Not this soon, though. No, Billie HAileys job is not to take care of you. For that matter, it's not David's job either.


~ABC said...

BJD said...
"I asked him to call the PD an let ‘em know that I was coming."

Trying to set Clint up. Adding more info complications to give her more material to twist and plant doubt with.

Peter Hyatt said...

Chose a name said...
Re: billies response to Fb angel pics. I must preface this by reminding people who is really into photoshop and continually posts photoshop pictures on her own fb page - that woul be Billie - bet my bottom dollar she created these, But, she pretends to thank someone else and state how badly she needed these pic. Every year, millions of dollars are spent on prepaid funeral, long term health care and estate planning. Why? Because loving parents cannot bear the thought of their child being burdened with the parents care. Not, Billie. She is comforted knowing Hailey is now in heaven to wrap her gentle wings around poor Biilie. Sick! At some point down the road, a parent might receive a bit of comfort knowing they will see their child in heaven someday. Not this soon, though. No, Billie HAileys job is not to take care of you. For that matter, it's not David's job either.
>>

Notice a certain part of this comment: "...Not, Billie. She is comforted knowing Hailey is now in heaven to wrap her gentle wings around poor Biilie. Sick! "

This does a very good job of highlighting the narcissism of BJD.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous 4:47 wrote:

"Billie Dunn was very very confused and upset that her child was missing, and I would not expect that she would be able to pass a lie detector test. Shawn had child pornography, which Billie probably did not realize, and where does child pornography come from. It comes from very very sick people, and they very well could have stalked Hailey, and Shawn being young and dumb, may not have realized just how perverted and sick these people that gave him the Child Pornography was. People are usually trusting, so, I would think that either Shawn did it, or the people that he got the child pornography from stalked Hailey and were watching her and grabbed her when she went outside the home, never to be seen again. I feel so sorry for this Mother, even though she may have been on drugs, these perverts that sell this child pornography, they have to somehow get the children to do this stuff, or kidnap these children, and Lord only knows that they must be extremely mental ill, and they may on Hailey Dunn, Memorial, Posturing and Emotionalism"

I appreciate your post. Rare is one who is pro-mother who refrains from name calling.

I'd like to address your points:

1. Billie was a confused and upset and couldn't take a polygraph

answer: Let's agree she was a nervous wreck of confusion.

She is asked: do you live at Smith St?

her confusion and nervousness comes shining through and sends the needle up to a level 6.

She is asked: Is your name Billie Jean Dunn?
her confusion and nervousness come shining through and she hits a 6.

Do you know what happened to Hailey?

Billie, confused and upset, says "no" and the needle pins at 10.

They go back:

"Are you 33 years old?"

She is confused and upset and hits 6

Do you know where Hailey is?

She is confused and upset and hits 10, pinning the needle again.

Her baseline may be very upset and confused, but it is the CHANGE in her body's reactions when she is under the stress of lying that is seen.

This is consistent with her language: deception.

In order to deceive, one must have a will to deceive. A confused person is wrong, not deceptive.

Does this help?

Again, thank you for your post.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Baxtie,

any concerns that it took 30+ years for them to conclude the dingo ate her baby?

Peter

Anonymous said...

Azaria Chamberlain case:

Below mother Q/A: I see a lot of the same wording Amanda Knox used - In my mind/my heart tells me etc.

: 'And what it had in its mouth, we know now, according to you, was a bleeding baby.'


A: 'That's my opinion.'


Q: 'Pardon?'


A: 'That is my opinion.'


Q: 'Well, is there any doubt about it?'


A: 'Not in my mind.'


Q: 'Is it merely your "opinion" or is it something you know as a fact?'


A: 'It is something my heart tells me is a fact. Other people don't think so.'

OldPsychNurse said...

Shawn is a sicko who idolizes slasher monsters. My guess is that he did something with Hailey's remains that is consistent with his love of extreme violence. Her clothing might show evidence of this psychopathic act.

Anonymous said...

Billie Jean is just as much a sicko as Shawn is, if not more so. There is NO WAY any woman or mother, (ESPECIALLY A MOTHER!) would ever allow such a man in her home or around her children much less shack up with him in front of her children, unless she was enjoying the same sicko doped up lifestyle he was living. I don't think there's any doubt considering the beastialilty and threesome porn videos she made with him.

THIS is the crazed life Billie loves! Shawn was hand-picked by Billie Jean. Remember, she sought him out on the internet! The man of her dreams.

Anonymous said...

Oops I meant to say about Dingo case:


@ Dingo Baby case: over the decades, multiple coroners and multiple forensic investigators ruled the death was NOT a homicide

Over the decades ample forensic evidence proved a dingo killed her baby

Excruciating Headache said...

Why so eager to malign Lindy Chamberlain? She was convicted in the court of public opinion and never really had a chance of winning in court.

Mrs. Chamberlain nursed Azaria right before putting her to bed. No one would breastfeed her baby, a very intimate thing that promotes bonding between a mother and her baby, then murder her immediately after.

Thanks for the link, Baxtie.

Case findings:
http://www.nma.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/347521/chamberlain_findings1.pdf

Anonymous said...


Ok for all you fine folks who think BD and SA failed polygraphs due to stress or drugs or aliens or any other defense you dream up.

The first thing they do in a poly is create a base line. They ask you "is your name jane"? YES/no

Do you live at 1234 main? yes/yes

have you ever lied? no/yes

Then they start asking the real hard questions.

Did you kill your child? yes/no

if you pulse/heart rate changes up or down from your baseline, then you are considered untruthful.

The stress exists in the baseline questions, as well as in the mainline questions.

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable how a BLOG could rally such a diverse group of people to regularly brain storm ideas, enjoy friendly banter and still never forget our common goal is justice for victims of crime. I'm sure there must be others but i dont know of any quite like Peter's posse here... I cant help but wonder if LE has ever scrutinized this blog.

Ps thank you for scholarship info

Nvmomma702

melvania said...

I think Peter will end up being subpoenaed for Hailey's trial.
THAT would be sweet! Pointhunter too....two men who will stand up for

melvania said...

I got ahead of myself...
Two men that will stand up for Hailey Darlene Dunn, and stand against those two evil morons.

melvania said...

Curious--
All the information that's being sent to him, several sources that send him BJD info. He's commented that there are folks sending him info. It could open the door for Statement Analysis as well.
Go Peter Go!

Baxtie said...

RE: Dingo/baby

Please don't mistake -- I'm not defending the dingo case outcome. I just remember having read about it recently so I thought I'd post the latest coroner's report. Just making sure all the info's out there for you, Peter!

Lemon said...

Headache@11:04:
Respectfully, no one is "eager to malign" Lindy Chamberlain. You include nursing the baby in her defense. You state on another thread the crowd (blog) is bloodthirsty. Your emotional response is leading you to make accusations that are untrue and inaccurate about posters here.