Dylan Redwine remains found Mark Redwine's Home
Dylan Redwine's remains have been found within driving distance of the home of Mark Redwine.
Dan Bender said the bones have been identified as Redwine's.
Dan Bender said the bones have been identified as Redwine's.
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation positively identified the remains Thursday and notified Elaine Redwine's, who had recently been in contact.
We recently published what some called Mark Redwine's denial, but it was not a denial, only a very thinly veiled attempt to portray himself as a victim.
Police stated that Dylan's disappearance is being treated as a criminal matter.
We recently published what some called Mark Redwine's denial, but it was not a denial, only a very thinly veiled attempt to portray himself as a victim.
Police stated that Dylan's disappearance is being treated as a criminal matter.
Redwine disappearedwhile spending a visit with his father, Mark, in Vallecito, near Durango. It is apparent that an altercation of sorts took place, as Dylan did not want to visit his father, and wanted to be with his friends, instead.
Mark Redwine claimed he left Dylan at home alone while he was out running errands, and when he returned, his son was gone. Statement Analysis quickly took this story apart.
Mark Redwine claimed he left Dylan at home alone while he was out running errands, and when he returned, his son was gone. Statement Analysis quickly took this story apart.
Mark Redwine told Dr. Phil he would take a polygraph, but knowing the consequences, canceled it, fueling the public's speculation that he was involved in Dylan's disappearance.
Statement Analysis concluded deception on the part of Mark Redwine, and his knowledge that Dylan was not "missing" but deceased.
Analysis HERE
Statement Analysis concluded deception on the part of Mark Redwine, and his knowledge that Dylan was not "missing" but deceased.
Analysis HERE
Poor Dylan. His poor mother. To think of your baby laying in the dirt, then covered by snow, cold and alone...just not right. I hope his POS father gets what's coming to him.
ReplyDeleteSo much sadness. These cases really take it out of me.
ReplyDeleteNo! I just saw the title and I was shocked... yes, we expected that Dylan was not alive, but nevertheless it's a shock. Poor boy. May he rest in peace and I hope justice is served quickly!
ReplyDeleteVery sad, and yes, even though we knew Dylan was gone, it is shocking that a parent can kill their child. I'm glad for his mother's sake, that Dylan's remains have been located.
ReplyDeleteRip from liverpool uk x
ReplyDeleteRIP Dylan, you deserved to have lived your life!
ReplyDeleteI'm so sad for his mother, I hope she has great support, she obviously loved Dylan very very much!
Maybe there is some evidence where they found Dylan that will help prosecute the murderer, seems like it was Dad.
FINALLY!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteYES!!!!
I hope justice is served this time....Too many kids have died and it's clear who did it, but no arrests.
ReplyDeleteSadly not an unexpected piece of news.
ReplyDeleteWe knew Dylan was dead the minute mark opened his mouth.
How will he try and blame this on his ex Eileen.
he has tried to blame her for Dylan going missing and anything else he can think of.
As long as Dylan's remains satyed undiscovered mark felt safe, now Dylan is found the finger points straight back at mark.
What will he do?
What can he do?
He will be facing capital murder charges will he do a deal or did he do a deal?
Did he give up the location to get death off the table?
At least Eileen and Cory have had their loved one brought home unlike so many.
My condolences on your loss Cory and Eileen
sigh...
ReplyDeleteSo very sad to hear this news....though not surprised. I hope there is evidence to prosecute the father. RIP Dylan and many condolences to your family and friends.
ReplyDeleteOh, poor Dylan. I'm so sorry this was your end :(
ReplyDeleteRIP Dylan.
ReplyDeleteSad as this news is, it provides a kernel of hope that other missing children will be found...
ReplyDeleteI immediately think of Kyron (another case where the answer seems in front of us, and yet he can't be found), and so many others .... The list is too long. Too sad.
Please please please let them find some way to bring justice this time.
ReplyDeleteI have already given up hope that Hailey Dunn will get justice. As much time that has passsed.
I hope this LE is building a strong case and arrest the father. I just watched the newscast and supposedly the father is going to speak in an interview tonite. I wonder if it is a new interview or if it is a regurgitated old interview.
ReplyDeleteThis is heartbreaking. I'm praying for Dylan and his mom.
Oh, my. I'm so glad his remains have been located, for the sake of his mom and brother if not for the sake of justice. (I'm thinking of Hailey Dunn. Remains found, no arrests.) I hope there is enough forensic evidence to prove the facts of his demise and that the guilty person (we all have a good idea who!) won't successfully claim Dylan just wandered off on his own and got lost.
ReplyDeleteI literally gasped when I read this. I didn't expect he would ever be found.
ReplyDeleteElaine, if you read here, please know that our hearts break with you. I don't know the pain your are feeling but having dealt with trying to protect my girls from their father, I share the pain of being handcuffed by the legal system and I know the rage you must be feeling at Mark and the judge that insisted on his "father's rights." What about children's rights?!
Rest in peace Dillan. God comfort Elaine, Cory and all his family that genuinely love him and heap flaming coals on Mark's conscience until he owns up to what he did.
That someone could do that is inconceivable. Cory's sweet face and all that he and his family were robbed of haunts me. Such needless waste, pain and sadness.
One other comment. I hope the judge that mandated and forced Dylan to visit with his dad, even though Dylan did not want to go, is punished. Judges hold so much power and when used appropriately, they can protect us. But like Dylan and the 6 yr old girl who is being forced to live with her sex offender step father, they can be dangerous.
ReplyDeletePlease please please let someone oversee these cases and make changes going forward. Please.
I mistakenly called Dylan Corey.
ReplyDeleteI am too sad for words. Against all odds, I was so in hopes he had been taken by say, a pedophile, and would be found like Shawn Hornebeck was. Not that this was a good alternative either, but my hope was that at least he would be found alive. It was not to be.
ReplyDeleteGod rest your soul sweet Dylan, may you RIP eternally. To you Elaine and to Cory; my heartfelt condolences. God bless and keep you always. Observer
Cory, be the best man you can be for lil' bro. I suspect u already are because Dillion looked up to u as a big brother and father-image. Dillion was a BIG man in a little body, tackling THAT evil monster, telling IT like it is, and protected you and mom. He is with you always, have no fear... loving you more than you can imagine!
ReplyDeleteRise above the evil, shitmouth ain't worth it, make Lil' bro proud!!!
Peter and his statement analysis was right again. Mark told us Dylan was dead.
ReplyDeleteI hate it when murderous parents are exposed as child killers. I cannot understand the violence and anger that drives these monsters.
My heart goes out to Elaine and Cody who kept Dylan safe and sound only to be shot down by Mark and his contempt and control needs.
My jaw dropped. Bless this family.
ReplyDelete*Sorry I meant Dylan..... I have a nephew named Dillion his age..
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ReplyDeleteFILE -- In this Nov. 26, 2012 photo, a missing poster of 13 year old Dylan Redwine hangs on a trail head sign next to Vallecito Reservoir in Vallecito, Colorado. (AP Photo/The Durango Herald, Shaun Stanley)am reaching out to his mom so he can have a proper burial. Making sure he gets a proper burial and the respect he deserves is what I have to focus on," he said.
I feel like Mark is telling us that Dylan did not show him the respect he felt he deserved and that is the reason he was killed.
The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23553442/dylan-redwine-remains-found-middle-mountain-colorado#ixzz2XSwJXfg8
Aw, no. I was hoping we were all wrong about this, despite the SA.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry for Elaine and the pain she must be going through.
May Dylan rest in peace.
Mark Redwine can go straight to ...
That pukified Mark Redwine and his control issues are at it again.
ReplyDelete"I am reaching out to his mom so he can have a proper burial"? Really Mark? Do you think that Elaine is unable to properly bury her son without your "help"? MR just goes on and on controlling Elaine through Dylan.
To Elaine and Cory; I am sorry for your loss, and pray that justice for Dylan will be served.
""I hope this LE is building a strong case and arrest the father""
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The LE in this case refused to investigate the father and people to back off the father and told people to stop badgering them (LE) about the father
The LE in this case are pieces of shit
I'm sad, but not surprised. I'm glad they were able to find Dylan's remains.
ReplyDeleteThose that loved Dylan can now grieve the known instead of the unknown. I hope there is enough intestinal fortitude and evidence to arrest and convict the one responsible for Dylan's death.
ReplyDeleteRIP Dylan.
ReplyDeleteElaine and Cory, my heart breaks for you.
And to Mark, more fitting words have yet to be spoken..so I'll borrow:
I want you to live every day as if it were your last. You can't run far enough or hide under any rock that can't be turned over. Dylan is loved by all who know him...the truth ALWAYS comes out and when it does may God have pity on your soul.
I've said before, and I think it bears repeating:
ReplyDeleteWe all have every right to state opinions. Our opinion may or may not be accurate. As far as I've seen (and I will certainly allow for the possibility that I missed something solid), there is no evidence other than what SA has provided, to show that Mark Redwine killed Dylan. Before everyone jumps in a dogpile here, I also must add that it's possible that that's exactly what happened. In fact, (as I know someone will definitely point out) it's statistically more likely that is what took place than for Dylan to have been randomly abducted (especially at his age).
BUT...consider his age. Consider several other factors that made up the scenario the night Dylan was picked up by Mark at the airport. It's been made clear that Dylan didn't want to spend his Thanksgiving break at his dad's house. There are many speculations as to why, and those may be correct. We also know for an established fact that Dylan couldn't wait to get to his friend's home the next morning. Dylan's friends also stated that Dylan had been known to hitchhike.
Using these three points, it's POSSIBLE (I didn't say it happened like this; it's POSSIBLE) that Dylan either decided he was going to hitchhike back home (less likely), or walk or hitch a ride to his friend's house (more likely than hitching a ride home). With the second scenario, I recall that Mark said he tried to wake his teen son (not an easy task) early in the morning, and he said Dylan didn't want to get up. Now, many here jumped right on that and said, "That means he COULDN'T wake him...because he was dead!" Okay, whoa there. That is typical of teens who have had late nights up watching movies and such, and remember he'd just had a day of traveling, too. It's possible, then, that since we know he was anxious to go to his friend's house, he woke up after his dad left, and headed out to see his friend, figuring he didn't want to wait all morning for his dad to get home.
That's enough, without any evidence beyond SA, for reasonable doubt. He could have been killed by someone that gave him a ride, he could have been robbed and killed, he could have gotten lost and hurt and couldn't get help, and met a tragic death in that way, with the cold coming in as it did.
Mark, I agree, makes some awkward statements. However, ALL his statements strike me as awkward, even the ones where we know he'd been truthful. I've known people who were poor orators and/or writers, and resorted to lots of cliches, lots of including of the general audience in personal statements, and otherwise awkward statements.
I say all of this because it's not good, nor ethical, nor responsible to make statements like, "murderous parents," "shocking that a parent can kill their child," and others. Statement analysis is, as far as I know, the only evidence that speaks to that. That may be the correct conclusion. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.
So, stating one's opinion should sound much more like one of the Anons, who said, "Maybe there is some evidence where they found Dylan that will help prosecute the murderer, seems like it was Dad." That clearly expresses the comment's author's opinion, while being aware that things aren't always as they seem. That is fair, credible, and responsible.
Shame on you. Your pig a hog a demon,Observer
DeleteLe could have evidence, but haven't released it. It is obvious MR did it.
DeleteRKG, well said!
ReplyDeleteShame on you also.Devils in unison,
DeleteObserver
Dylan Found
ReplyDeleteHis song, his said fave song by his Mom ~Elaine and Cory are in my prayers. The lyrics profound, as what was his compared, to his life, that he loved so deeply, yet he was the little boy in the video. Cory was his Dad, brother, protector, it's so obvious.
http://youtu.be/xJJsoquu70o
What was unknown by all, he lived within his own known, that his life was blurry as long as " MR" interfered with MOM, with Cory.
Before he was missing, he knew the truth. This to become his undoing, by his maker, (MR) he, DY told all, he didn't have a choice, he sent by the Judge.
Dylan found.
He can now be brought home. With Dignity, he will never be forgotten. He will be remembered. Dy to pay within a battle he could not win, that authority stepped in, and decided for him. Against him. His words stated to become deliberated, that he was not " old enough" - with the state of Colorado.
I beg to differ, and I wonder what the Judge is pondering at this late hour, knowing Dy was found as he was. Dylan Redwine, you will never be reduced, you will not be remembered as the boy in the Walmart, caught on a surveillance camera.
NO, you were not a missing person on a poster, it does not define you. You were a real boy, with heart, integrity, and you made a presence upon this earth. God be with your family, those who you touched and loved you, that they continue your life - your memory, your spirit, as you offered it so freely.
Who is responsible,
Justice, I believe is a knock on a door, a well known door..soon, not later.
I'm stunned. Just came here to check on recent stories and never expected this. I "knew" Dylan wasn't alive but I still held out hope. Now I am just so sad. There is no reason for this. Poor Elaine.
ReplyDeleteRKG since you are so familiar with both the case and how teenage boys behave, how do you explain Dylan's cell phone going off the grid? Your pal Mark has no answers for that one.
ReplyDeleteWell said Jen.
ReplyDeleteDylan touched so many around the world.
RKG, I understand what you are saying and if it was only SA and the way MR talks I would agree. But Dylan didn't text his friends and that makes NO sense. He would have told them he was on his way and probably have texted them multiple times on his way. I think I remember that he left nothing behind at MR's house. Also suspicious. He took a fishing pole but I think Cory or Elaine said he wasn't very interested in fishing. MR didn't contact LE at all or Elaine for hours. MR not searching or pleading for Dylan's safe return, agreeing then backing out of the poly. I know there are more things that I can't remember right now, but when they are all put together it looks to me like another strong circumstantial evidence case.
ReplyDeleteI do understand why you would caution us to use discretion in what we say though. Good advice.
Rkg...
ReplyDeleteThe piece missing with the hitch hiking theory was that Dylan's phone had no activity after 9:37.
He's 13 and his mom said he texted constantly non stop throughout the night.
At 9:37 p.m., Dylan sent his last text message to a friend, saying he planned to meet up with him early the next morning.
That friend never heard from him again and no more activity occurred on his phone.
So... Now lets say dad made him turn it off... If he set out the next day to head towards his friends who was 40 miles away I think they said... Not only would he be texting that he was on his way at least...
plus,,. to hitchhike out there... I've looked on google maps and Mark house... it's desolate. He cant be sure he's get a ride or that they would be able to take him there.
So as much as he didn't want to be there, I think he would have made himself get up.
And LE stated that the lack of activity meant the phone was turned off or the battery was removed.
What 13 year old that can text turns off their phone for that long.
Shelley
Ok the cell phone theory is interesting but I'm wondering if he got any kind of a signal out there. Because if not that would explain no more texts. Just a thought. As much as I've believed MR is responsible for his death, it is a plausible theory that Dylan and his father fought, Dylan ran off and ran into danger and died - maybe fell off a cliff? And just maybe the statement analysis of MR reveals his guilt over not bothering to go after his angry son and going to bed only to wake up in the morning to find Dylan gone.
ReplyDeleteToo many statements and actions point to the father as the person of interest. As was stated above, if Dylan decided to hitchhike, he would have texted his friend. He did not. Dylan was excited about going to his friend's house at 6am and he would have been up and ready to go. Dylan was court mandated to go to his fathers. He did not want to be there. That would be even more reason for Dylan to be up and ready to go in the morning. I do not believe Dylan was up late the night before as his last text was a 9:37pm. He would have been texting up until he went to sleep.
ReplyDeleteMark Redwine's actions, statements all point to his guilt. He refused to answer questions for Dr. Phil. The fishing pole was a ruse.
Lastly, Dylan would have texted his mother that morning and he did not.
I believe Mark Redwine killed his son . JMO
Posted: 06/27/2013
ReplyDelete"Weeks after Dylan disappeared, investigators said they determined the teen did not run away, but members of the task force searching for Dylan will not disclose what led them to that conclusion. Investigators would only say they are treating his disappearance as a criminal investigation."
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/state-news/missing-teenager-dylan-redwines-parents-asked-to-come-to-durango-to-meet-law-enforcement
Dylan was found on a dead-end forest service road.
ReplyDeleteI'm certain I read somewhere, probably here, that to get a signal on his cell phone he had to go to a certain room upstairs in his father's house. I'm just playing devils advocate here, but isn't it possible Dylan didn't text his friends because he couldn't get a signal out in the woods?
ReplyDeleteWas Dylan found in the direction of his friends? As if he were going to town and got lost?
ReplyDeleteBeing placed at the end of a logging road is pretty common for murderers who have bodies to hide, especially in states that allow logging.
Poor Dylan.
Mark Redwine frequently tells the media how he wants his wife to return to mediation. (Domestic abuser control freak!) I think Elaine should agree to go......and take a baseball bat.
ReplyDeleteI don't think for a minute that Dylan would leave without texting his friends that he was on the way and was going to be hitchhiking, even if it meant he had to go upstairs to do it.
ReplyDeleteDylan was found on a forest service road north of where MR lives. Dylan's friends live in Bayfield to the south.
LE has said they have determined that Dylan didn't run away. I might be wrong in assuming that also means he didn't decide visit a friend without telling anyone. I've never heard MR claim that Dylan had ever done anything like that before and his mother and family say that would be out of character for him. MR won't be disrespected! And for Dylan to just take off and hitchhike 13 miles without asking or telling MR would be disrespectful. I think it would have upset him greatly.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3082040.shtml
ReplyDeleteYou don't really ever have the opportunity to prepare yourself,” Dylan’s father Mark Redwine said. “Obviously I thought I needed to be prepared for something like this, that it was in the realm of possibility that's why I was being called in.”
Investigators found Dylan’s remains this week along Middle Mountain Road near Vallecito Lake. Mark says deputies warned him before showing photos of what they found. In the pictures, Dylan’s body appeared mangled and torn apart by wild animals. Officials are still determining cause of death, but Dylan’s father says right now, he hopes people will focus on the loving boy his son was.
"For the loving, caring peacemaker that he was,” Mark Redwine said. “I know that it was difficult for his mom and I to go through such a bitter divorce and I did everything I could to keep him out of the middle of it. He struggled with that and I'm not sure he felt he could talk to either of his parents about that and that's what's also hard."
It's interesting that of all the ways Mark could describe his at this time, it is as a peacemaker.
MR during Trisha on Blogtalk radio:
ReplyDelete"Turn over every rock...under every log, look in every stump..."
Mark and Elaine were supposed to meet for mediation on June 5. If it actually happened, and I can't find anything about it, I wonder if something came out during that mediation that put LE on the right track.
Half of the crap spewed from Mark Redwine's mouth is about his divorce. Even on the day his child's mangled body is located, Mark Redwine is still obsessed with his hate-filled divorce.
ReplyDeleteMark redwine may have more victims!
ReplyDeleteReally, MR finds out his son has been murdered and is shown pictures like that and he starts speaking of his divorce again??? That is all he can come up with to speak about the person that Dylan was? That man is sick. And the things he is spewing to the media about reaching out to ER about giving Dylan a proper burial is just ridiculous and more signs of manipulation on his part. I do not believe this man is innocent. He has shown us his guilt since the beginning and there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support that as well. I hope there is physical evidence now to bring charges against this disgusting excuse for a father.
ReplyDeleteRedwine is an Evil s.o.a.b. and the lord will Judge him,observer
DeleteLE should take his passport he may flee the country!
ReplyDeleteI'm glad that at least Dylan can be brought home. I'm waiting for justice so that Elaine and Cory can begin to heal.
ReplyDeleteTHE EVIL FATHER SHOULD BE SHOT IN THE FACE,Observer
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know how far it is between where Dylan was found to MR's house?
ReplyDeleteAlso, was it in the same direction as his friends house?
Is MR known to be familiar w/the area that Dylan was found in?
This is so sad! But hopefully Elaine & Cory can start to work on closure & slowly start putting the pieces of their life back together.
I'd imagine MR is probably needing an underwear change right about now. I hope is freaking out. Scared to death of what's coming next.
TROLL ^^^^^^ above at 3:59, 4:00, 4:02 and 7:05 a.m. Those posts not made by me. Just some sicko. Thank you, Observer
ReplyDeleteObserver..just ignore, and proceed (or carry on) No one reads that crap anyway..
ReplyDeleteSA Lurker, I think I read somewhere that Dylans' body was found approx 16 miles from Marc Redwines' home. Also, that the area where he was found was in the opposite direction of the route Dylan would have taken to his friends' home. I wonder, was there enough room for a semi to turn around in this area, could back off the road, or if some other type vehicle was used to dump Dylan there? A semi is not very large if the trailer is not attached.
ReplyDeleteI hope this judge who sentenced Dylan to his tragic and horrible death is dealing with himself on how he could do such a thing to an innocent and helpless child who BEGGED not to have to go to his fathers', and is not excusing himself for what he did. I don't get it, how these judges can even live with themselves. Observer
Dadgum thank you.Observer
DeleteThank you Dadgum; that is what I am trying to do. Observer
ReplyDeleteTROLL ,^^^^9:48,,Observer
DeleteMy deepest condolences to the family. :(
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what led LE to the body?
What is the prevailing theory, the specifics of how the POS supposed "father" did this?
Thanks in advance.
I wonder if tire track impressions were available for evidence, since the area had been preserved by snowfall.....
ReplyDeleteI would like to know the 'official' reason given to determine that this is a criminal case - and how it was determined early on that Dylan didn't leave on his own accord.....
Grieving dad? Yeah, right. He should be in jail, not giving interviews from his front porch looking out over where Dylan was disposed of. Sickening! jmo
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsOjaB3OoGk
Interview with Dylan Redwine's Dad
koattv
Jun 27, 2013
From Denver Post 6/28
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The recovery of their son's remains has not eased either parent's suspicion or animosity. They have blamed each other for Dylan's disappearance, even exchanging accusations on the "Dr. Phil Show."
Mark Redwine said that after Thursday's announcement, his ex-wife was driving on a street in Durango when she spotted him, rolled down her window and shouted, "Murderer!"
The community had held out hope for Dylan's return. The sandy-haired boy's image still peers from fliers and posters taped up in shop windows and stapled to tree trunks and fence posts in the region.
About 45 law enforcement and search and rescue workers discovered Dylan's remains and other items while searching along 12 miles of Middle Mountain Road, said sheriff's department spokesman Dan Bender.
They worked more than 1,600 man-hours during the five-day search on the rugged, unpaved road, which runs parallel to the road Mark Redwine lives on.
Mark Redwine said investigators told him they had found only four or five of his son's bones and that they would continue searching. He said authorities told him his son was ravaged by wildlife.
Investigators also found a piece of the boy's shirt, one sock and his shoestrings but not the backpack or other items he had when he went missing, Redwine said.
"Ninety-eight percent of Dylan is scattered about the countryside," said Redwine, his voice trembling in an interview Thursday night.
Bender said the Colorado Bureau of Investigation positively identified bones as Dylan's on Thursday and notified Dylan's family.
Bender said Dylan's disappearance is being treated as a criminal matter, and he said the boy's parents are cooperating in the investigation.
Searches for the boy, which had been called off during the winter months,resumed in the spring.
The latest searches, through deep canyons, dense forest and extensive ground cover, were not the result of new information, Bender said. They were part of a series of follow-up searches conducted after the snow melted.
Dylan disappeared while spending a visit with his father in Vallecito, which is near Durango. He lived near Colorado Springs with his mother and her boyfriend.
Mark Redwine said he left Dylan at home alone while he was out running errands, and when he returned, his son was gone.
Although tears were shed in Vallecito and nearby communities on Thursday, the news wasn't entirely a shock. Those who work at the Schank House restaurant had been watching search crews in hiking gear venture in and out of the mountain all week. When sheriff's cars - but no firetrucks - came down the road late Wednesday, they sensed a grim development.
"Everyone is curious to know if they can figure out what happened," said Kaitlyn Vervaet, who works at Pura Vida cafe, where tourists for months have asked questions about what happened to the missing boy. "Living in the mountains, there's so many things that could have happened. We were all hoping (he had) run away and maybe we'd see him again."
END ARTICLE
I have been following this story because I live in Monument, CO, the town where Dylan went to school. It's so sad. I hope they are able to convict Mark if he did it (which I believe is the case).
I can't even fathom how someone could make such a crass comment about his son how 98% of him is scattered about. It makes me sick.
RE: Anonymous @ June 28, 2013 at 2:31 AM
ReplyDeleteFrom Tricia's True Crime Radio show June 9, 2013
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/06/10/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern
Starts at about 42:00
Tricia shares a text she received from Elaine Redwine with Mark Redwine. The text was in response to Tricia's question to Elaine regarding how the mediation (on Wednesday) had gone. Elaine told Tricia that she'd asked Mark questions, but she didn't get the answers she'd wanted. Tricia asked Elaine what those questions were, Elaine said the questions were based on information that Law Enforcement told her but she doesn't want to reveal those questions right now.
Tricia asked Mark if he'd like to respond to that and he (after beating around the bush) says he doesn't know what she's referring to necessarily.
It was also stated during the show that a member of LE was present for the mediation.
abusive/controlling spouses use meditation/counseling as a tactic to "spend time" with their victims......just like kids who dont get positive attention, act out to get bad attention...he's getting to spend some time with Elaine. and yes, i wondered the same thing...wow, how could he say that about his poor child's body?
ReplyDeletecondelences to elaine and cory...may God bless you, dylan.
oops mediation
ReplyDeleteElaine is showing amazing restraint if she yelled "Murderer!" out the car window at Mark. Many moms would have swerved to hit him. To hear Theresa, Mark's buddy (diaper buddy?), tell this story on Tric's True Crime Radio, you'd think this action was equal to the crime of murdering your own child.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes Theresa enable a sexually perverse man whose child disappeared at his home?
Our justice system needs advocates that can speak for the child in cases like this.
ReplyDeleteI hope there is powerful evidence that Mark did this and he gets what's coming too him.
I'm so tired of parents killing their children and going without punishment.
Anon @ 11:52, who is this Theresa person you speak of?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing Anon 11:52...if I saw the man who murdered my child walking down the street I would find it difficult not to square up and run him over.
ReplyDeleteHowever, Elaine knows Mark better than anyone, and by calling him a murderer she is 'disrespecting him', which we all know he can't tolerate. Good for her.
PART ONE OF TWO
ReplyDeleteI just looked up Mcdonalds and Walmart. According to news they went to the ones in Durango. There is only one of each in Durango. Small town.
So I went to google street view maps and added in Marks address, the airport, mcdonalds and walmart. I have the addresses at the bottom. I think where is a way to save this map but I don’t know how to do it.
But it helps to see it all together .
Once on google street view, do directions and you can add multiple addresses.
Here is the timeline.
• 5:46 p.m. Dylan arrived at Durango-La Plata airport.
• 7:05 p.m. Dylan at Durango Walmart
• 7:22 p.m. Dylan at Durango McDonalds
• 9:37 p.m. Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)
They hit the Walmart and Mcdonalds in Durango where the airport is. Mark lives what appears to be up in the mountains. The road from Durango to dads goes directly through Bayfield-East) then north to Marks house.
According to mapquest, it is a little over an hour drive from Mcdonalds to Marks house. If they did nothing more but drive there, that would put them at Marks about 8:30.
Dylan was supposed to go to Ryan’s grandmothers. Not sure where in Bayfield (Marks address is also technically Bayfield according to maps) she lived. So I am taking a guess she was maybe in town.
Now, to me, Dylan REALLY did not want to be there. Was eager to see his friends. Dad was going to Durango and Bayfield is right on the way so it would be so much easier to just get up and go with Dad. Now, I get some kids are hard to get up. But Dylan was not happy about being there and wanted to see is friends. Its not like they are super close so his best chance would have been to get up and go with dad.
Some say he might have hitch hicked. Possibly, but just seems kinda unlikely.
But, The Road near Vallecito Reservoir where the body was found is about 20 minutes from Marks home.
Mark drives right by the Vallecito Reservoir on the way to or from Durango but from the maps I have seen it appears the body was found on the other side of Vallecito and possibly a little more north.
So while not directly on the way, it would be a short detour if he killed him and dumped the body on the way home, or in the morning on his way to Durango to “run errands”
PART TWO OF TWO
ReplyDeleteTo me, one of the other pieces that disturbs me is the fact that not one thing of Dylans was left behind. He was packed for a couple days. There would be no reason to bring everything with him.
I personally don’t think Dylan ever made it to Marks home that night.
I think it’s possible like Peter stated they argued and it ended badly on the way home
The news is just stating Dylan was found along the “12 miles of Middle Mountain Road”. Middle mountain is pretty desolate. There are a couple homes along the stretch but other areas that are just trees.
The body was in an area that a body could quickly be dumped right off the road.
That could lead to many conclusions.
We know Dylan didn’t go there on his own.
And so someone can technically say it was a kidnapper or dad.
Granted, I don’t think it’s a kidnapper.
Mark didn’t search for Dylan. Searchers even complained that he was not helping.
Fathers frantic to find their kids search.
Dylan is a non stop texter and they have said the last text he sent was shortly after 8 which would make sense if he was mainly just texting Ryan. The last text he got was from Ryan that night was at 9:37. Then Ryan was texting him the next morning asking where he was.
I found the actual text messages and what was typed between him and Ryan. Below
Ryan Nava: (time 6:43 p.m. Nov. 18) Im in pagosa coming
Dylan Redwine: Cant come srry ill hang tommarow
Ryan: Ok
Ryan: (time 7:09 p.m. Nov. 18) Why
Dylan: idk
Ryan: (time 7:45 p.m. Nov. 18) Did your dad say no
Dylan: (time 8:01 p.m. Nov. 18) yea
Ryan: Oh ok
Dylan: can I come over early lkke 6 30 early tomarrow
Ryan: Yeah
Dylan: you better let me in
Ryan: I will
Ryan: im gonna be at my gmas
Dylan: i call (you) all day if you dont
Ryan: Ok
Dylan: will you gma care or be up
Ryan: Just come around to were the sliding door is were that room is and knock on it and i will wake up
Ryan: (Time 9:27 p.m. Nov. 18) Call me when you get here too
Ryan: (Tme: 6:46 a.m. Nov. 19) Where are you
Ryan: (Time: 10 a.m. Nov. 19) Come to nandos.
Ryan: (time: 4:12 p.m. Nov. 19) Dude your dads looking for ou
Ryan: you
Ryan: (Time: 7:59 p.m. Nov. 19) Are you alright dude?
Ryan: Dude you need to call somebody anybody asap we all worried about you your mom called and shes worried bro
Ryan: Seriously when you get the message call someone
ADDRESSES:
Dads: 2343 County Road 500, Bayfield, CO
Walmart: 1155 S Camino Del Rio, Durango, CO 81303
Airport: Durango-La Plata County Airport, Airport Road, Durango, CO
Mcdonalds: 201 West 6th Avenue, Durango, CO 81301
Wow. IMO this is a startling sign that something happened to Dylan that night. He never confirmed with Ryan. After he asked if his friends "gma" would be ok with him coming that early and Ryan responding, Dylan would have said "ok" - or some sort of response. But instead he's oddly quiet.
DeleteBTW - I would like to point out - Dylan clearly was a respectful young man, otherwise he would not have asked Ryan if his grandmother would be ok with an early visitor.
Shoestrings,plural, but no shoes? How does that happen? How could wildlife detach both shoes from their strings and leave both strings in the same area but neither shoe? There would have to be chew marks as well as dna from its saliva if an animal worked the laces free.
ReplyDeleteMore than likely they were removed by his murderer for nefarious reasons.
It was said that Dylan slept on the couch the night before he disappeared and his bedding was still there when LE searched MR's home. It was also said that there was nothing of Dylan's for the search dogs. Why couldn't they have used the bedding if he really slept there that night?
ReplyDeleteIt had to take all the restraint Elaine could muster to hold back and play Marks' game as long as she did to try to get him to tell her where Dylan was. Now there is no reason to hold back and if that's the worst Mark gets from her he's a very lucky man.
ReplyDeletemj, I agree. He was too respectful to just take off and hitchhike there too without permission.
ReplyDeleteI suspect that Mark let some marbles escape at mediation on June 9 and probably on Trisha's True Crime show. The look under every rock, in and under logs more than coincidental in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteYour"marbles"may be right,Observer
DeleteI read at another site that LE was looking in that area because the snow had melted. I wonder if LE had an idea where Dylan would be but had to wait because of the snow. Also that they had found a few bones, not Dylan in his entirety. So Mark is a bit quick to be talking about burials. I love how he talks like he is in charge of anything to do with Dylan--reaching out to Elaine--give me a break
ReplyDelete"Look under every stump, log, rock," "I feel like I am falling over a cliff," "everyday I talk to Dylan," "Dylan is watching over me," "bang him in the head." Mark Redwine has told us how, where, and why (to get back at Elaine and regain control/get out of child support). I believe it was premediated and Mark drove an alive Dylan to the end of the Forest Service Road on some pretense, after taking away the phone. Hopefully there is a unique baseball bat on Middle Mountain. I cannot think of any case, ever, unfortunately, where the murderer was convicted on forensic psychology alone.
ReplyDeleteI had a WTF moment (pardon my language) when mark redwine said this after is was declared a homicide.
ReplyDeleteThey can have a homicide all they want to but if they feel like i had any involvement with it, then why am i standing on my front porch having this conversation with you?
His comment screams distancing, denial.
His claim that Dylan wouldn't wake up in the early am rings false since Dylan didn't want to be there at all.
Dylan had made plans to meet and stay with his friends, there is no way in hell he would make the arrangements to be where he wanted to be which was away from mark and then not get up.
I suspect if Dylan had been alive he would not have slept he would have been desperate to get out the house.
The location Dylan was found was in the opposite direction to where his friends were so this rules out walking or hiking, the expected is the remains would be found in the direction towards the friends house.
It is an out of the way location known probably only to the locals.
In his interview he sounded drunk yet again, he also sounded pleased. Why the need to say they got 2% so the other 98% is still out there.
Innocent parents would be devestated their child is dead, it would be agonising knowing their child was dismembered either by the killer or the wildlife.
They would be demanding the search goes on to get every single particle back, to give their child a decent burial, that all of him was brought home.
Where is the plea for the killer to surrender or someone knowing something to call LE?
Where is the grief?
Where is the anger towards the killer?
From mark the expected is long over the horizon and gaining speed.
Instead of anger, despair, grief there was only smugness.
He is still exerting control over Eillen, this was done to get her where it hurts the most.
I expect demands from him for her to work with him in regard to the funeral, he may 'decide' to search himself and when he gets some of what he wants he might find another bone.
Be a good little wifey and you'll get a part of Dylan back, if you refuse, then he stays lost.
Mark is a functiioning alcoholic, right now i bet his drinking is getting out of control, Dylan is dead, murdered, the time he had oer the winter to allow nature to act is long past, he doesn't have any time left to deny or blame, he can't now claim Eileen is involved, he will be worrying about anything he missed, trace evidence in the house, the vehicle, clothing.
He also can't control his ego, he opens his mouth before engaging brain, his own words will prove his involvement
Press:
ReplyDeleteInvestigators also found a piece of the boy's shirt, one sock and his shoestrings but not the backpack or other items he had when he went missing, Redwine said.
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Dylan on the surveillance camera, Walmart, he is wearing his " Black and White" Air Jordans. The photo of Dy, is he wearing socks or not? it looks as the shoe is black with white accents. The upper of the shoe front is white? not him wearing a short sock (?)
Didn't Elaine (Mom)say that Dylan wasn't one for changing his socks, he wasn't "high maintenance" he still in his stage of being all Boy. She too, wasn't it she said that she did not know what was in Dy's backpack, as he packed it himself (?) if I recall.
Photo of Dylan:
http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/dylan-redwine1.jpg
The Time Line said by MR - compared to what LE released as their own investigated time line.
LE: DY Airport: 5:46
MR: DY Airport: 6:00 - 6:20 don't know
LE: DY Walmart Camera - 7:05
MR: DY Walmart camera, No time
said, was immediate we went from Airport to Walmart
LE: McDonald's he/DY was documented at 7:22 PM
MR: McDonald's - we left at 7:30 ish around there
LE: DY activity last on DY's phone was: 9:37 PM
MR: Texting " sketchy" he was texting during the drive, no service until after the dam during the drive to my house. MR of Dy, he was texting while playing video games, while watching a movie, I assumed he was texting,,,
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I as many, do not believe that Dylan ever made it to his father's house, that night.
He MR wanted to go have a " SIT Down" dinner, at a restaurant, after Walmart shopping. MR: NOoo Dylan wanted to go to McDonald's, what 13 yr old doesn't want to go to McDonald's.
Interview: MR
http://youtu.be/fGEwCBPy90w
MR transcript
11:55 - McDonald's. We didn't even eat IN McDonald's, we " got it" in the Truck, went to the drive thru and were eating it on our way home, So
12:20: We left McDonald's probably round 7:30ish and it's about a 45 min drive, from Durango to get out there - so we would have been here about, 8:15, 8:30ish -
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I wish the reporter/s would ask MR what he was driving the night he picked up DY. I believe he was driving his Rig. He to say that he had just come in from Silver City, NM, then onto the Airport to pick up DY. If he was in his Rig, I do not believe it would pass clearance upon the Drive Thru of the McDonald's. That he did pull in and turn around, " that they didn't eat or go in" that he was engaged and enraged at DY for asking if he could go see his friends, he texting, he not wanting to be with MR. This why MR's Timeline is way off compared to LE's investigated findings.
That DY's decline of the sit down dinner triggered MR, to go there. As I believe that MR chose a restaurant with Booze, to corner DY, have a man to man chit chat. MR to DY, you are going to hear me talk bad about your Mom, your living with her/Mike,..this why DY refused the restaurant.
Where is Dy's cell phone? His backpack not found, yet. His sock being found is the key here. Was he or wasn't he wearing them, off the plane? Or he tossed a pair of socks in his backpack, this would mean his backpack was with him, not without him.
I am finally trying to watch the full dr phil show with mom and dad.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that all Mark seems to want to do is insult or blame Elaine.
ALSO....... First I have seen this...
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Dylan had no coat with him. It was winter in Colorado.
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I offically now think we can rule out that Dylan walked out of that house to hitch hike or walk any where.
When it was addressed on here, Mark didn't comment on that other than to blame Elaine for not sending him with it.
Which sorry, at 13 they can pack their own bags and we all forget stuff.
I am finally trying to watch the full dr phil show with mom and dad.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that all Mark seems to want to do is insult or blame Elaine.
ALSO....... First I have seen this...
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Dylan had no coat with him. It was winter in Colorado.
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I offically now think we can rule out that Dylan walked out of that house to hitch hike or walk any where.
When it was addressed on here, Mark didn't comment on that other than to blame Elaine for not sending him with it.
Which sorry, at 13 they can pack their own bags and we all forget stuff.
He MR, speaking of the Walmart, of why HE went to Walmart, Dy is never quoted by MR, through out this interview, this is his version of what transpired.
ReplyDeleteMR 10:40 - need for us to go grab enough things from Walmart to sustain us for a day or two.. I didn't even buy anything for Thanksgiving.
http://youtu.be/fGEwCBPy90w
Mark his reasons of going to Walmart is obtuse. He to say he has no food at his house. He had been on the road. Dylan's main focus was to be with his Buds, what do boys age 13 do that is endless and all day long? they EAT. He to go to his friends, and or his friends to come over to MR's, yet to be negotiated. As this was a discussion that went south very quickly. MR to act as if it was negotiated prior to Dylan arriving, and then he retracts his promises to Dylan.
He, MR, wasn't going to allow him to see them either, it was his own negotiated with WE. We is MR.
MR, it was he to purchase things to sustain " Us" for a day or two, I didn't even buy, Thanksgiving was not planned. Thanksgiving is non relevant to him, within he and Dylan. It wasn't his plan, that there would be any Thanksgiving with Dylan. He bought what as edible? a box of cereal to use later as a prop?
MR press DY missing for 2 wks:
Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake. Mark said he told his son it was too late. So Dylan texted friends in Bayfield, his father said, and made arrangements to meet them the next morning.
The next morning, Dylan was sleeping on the couch where Mark Redwine now sits and where Dylan's blankets still lie jumbled. Mark said he waited until 7:30 a.m. but still couldn't rouse his son, so he told him he would return about 11. When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon. His son's fishing pole was gone. So was his black-and-gray backpack. A few articles of clothing were left behind on the couch.
"His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.
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Mom Elaine on Nancy Grace: 12/3/2012
Now, Miss Redwine, let me talk to you about what we find left at the home. The dad comes back from running errands for about four hours, 7:30 to 11:30. He finds a cereal bowl in the sink. Is that common?
REDWINE: Yes. I mean, you know, Dylan ate cereal. I don`t really know how to --
GRACE: OK, so that`s normal. What about the cell phone and the backpack and other belongings?
REDWINE: It was my understanding from his dad that everything Dylan had was in his backpack including his cell phone, his iPod, his iPod charger, his cell phone charger, all of his clothes. So we had to actually make a trip to get some of Dylan`s clothes from where we live in Colorado Springs because it was my understanding there were no clothes at his dad`s house.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html
The items,articles of DY, that are said by MR, not LE. How is it he is the one to disclose what was and wasn't found? as it has been all along details are not MR's forte to offer free will. Mom to say what MR educated her on, what was inside Dy's backpack. When? When did MR go through and catalog DY's back pack? before or after he arrived at his house. Where is all the technology? it's scattered through out the woods, or LE has Dy's tech possessions, and MR doesn't know it?, they are allowing him to hang himself?
Mark Redwine's reactions are so inappropriate on so many levels!! I can't even wrap my mind around it. He's just that disjointed and unexpected.
ReplyDeletePS Hobnob.
It's Elaine, not Eileen :)
Shut up!!! Your overindulging in your own bane,Observer
DeleteThanks ABC. xx
ReplyDeleteMmmmmmm
DeleteOk, on Dr. Phil.... Still watching off and on.....
ReplyDeleteBut he mapped out the distance from dads to the friends grandmothers house.
Elaine said it was 6 miles
Dad acts like shes way off and says "It’s NOT six miles!"
Dr Phil says "we did go to Google maps and that’s 5.9 miles"
So again, lets say Dylan decided to walk or try (again hitch hiking is not a guarantee) to get to his buddies grandmothers house...
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Critical facts!
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Text messages cut off after 8pm from an avid texter.....
Dad claims Dylan went to bed about 9 when mom says he usually was up till 11-12 and being excited to see his friends would not be in bed early.....
Its winter....
Dylan has no coat...
November 19, 2012 it was 24 degrees in Bayfield Colorado....
Dad took a nap when he discovered he was gone....
Dad didn't search for him....
Dad Failed the LE polygraph...
Dad Refused another poly on the Dr. Phil Show
Not sure how anyone can think hes the innocent father....
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And again with the NO coat.
If my ex addressed that and it was winter I would then want to look into that factor.
Mark does not. Instead he turns this back to what Elaine did wrong.
To turn the attention away.
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Kinda like in the Jodi Arias trial.
Juan brings up the closet shelves and the fact that you can not stand on them becuase they will just tip forward.
Meaning Jodi would not have been able to get the gun on the top of Travis's closet (i rewinded to watch her reaction when he addressed this and there was a HUGE GULP like OH SHOOT)
So, Jodi did not run from Travis and get HIS gun.
Means she had it.
And the defense just tried to skate over it. They never once came back with an arguement.
Cause there isnt one. So lets talk about her PTSD which even if she had it it was AFTER SHE MURDERED him
Vita, I don't know but maybe MR's routine was to drive to the trucking company he worked for, leaving his car there when he took the semi on the road. Maybe he didn't park it at his house between trips. In which case he would have been driving his own car to Walmart, McDonalds and home.
ReplyDeletePlease help find Ayla
ReplyDeleteI hope they took MR's passport!!!!!
Hobnob at 4.14pm. - I also had a wtf moment when i listened to that interview. He sounded very drunk. Very well written in what you say. I've followed this case from the beginning and hope that this time there will be an arrest.
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ReplyDeleteHalf of THE CRAP SPEWED FROM HIS Mark Redwine's mouth is about his diVORCE.EVEN ON THE day his CHILD'S MANGLED BODY is located, Mark Redwine isSTILL OBSESSED WITH HIS HATE-FILLED diVORCE.
June 28, 2013 at 2:33 AM
We CAN read u know!!! Stfu,observer
DeleteSTFU
DeleteVery sad news.
ReplyDeleteI am thankful that Dylan has been found and his mum and brother can lay him to rest. My heart breaks for them. Poor Dylan :(
I sincerely hope justice will be seen for this family.
WE ALL AGREE HON XXXXXXX ,Observer
DeleteI am with Shelly. Justice for Dylan and Hailey
ReplyDeleteMark has told us a lot in his interviews, which you have all discussed. "I feel like I'm being pushed over a cliff," "look under every rock, stump, log," something about how he talks to Dylan everyday and Dylan is watching over him (Dylan was found about 1500 feet above Mark's house). And the GIGGLE before the homicide and porch comment is chilling.
ReplyDeleteI'd like someone to ask Bender if they told Mark only 2 percent of his son was found. If not, that 98 percent reference is chilling as well, since Mark used "98" last month:
MR- to Elaine Hatfield via May Text message a few days before the Boulder conflict resolution:
"98%, Dots are together.....as many time you burned me you thought I was ashes.....WRONG........you introduced me to Papa Roach .... soooooo BURN!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you have money to raise for your Colon Cancer riddled BFF"?"
(Look up Papa Roach's Burn lyrics if you don't know the song)
MR: June 28: “They've only found 2 percent or approximately 2 percent of his remains. That means there's still 98 percent of my son still strewn around the countryside somewhere," said Mark Redwine in an interview with 7NEWS.”
Please help find Ayla
ReplyDeletePeter and Heather I learned from you the words of Jesus, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" you said that the word "so" is used by the guilty .....
soooooo BURN!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you have money to raise for your Colon Cancer riddled BFF"?"
He's burning evidence, there was a fire in the yard last night.
How sad! I had hoped he had ran away. Looks grim for the father.
ReplyDeleteBut, what did the postal worker really see?
Postal workers STEAL.
DeletePoor little boy and his family.
ReplyDeleteI do not know if his father is still suspect, but I shore hope they will focus not only the father whitout investitgate other subject as well, so that the killer can bee found.
I can not imagen how someone can take a nother persons life, specially not a childs life....but I guess that the world is full of people that do not care at all.