Thursday, July 18, 2013

Father of the Year Arrested

The more they bicker, the more likely it will be that someone is going to talk...


PORTLAND — The father of Ayla Reynolds, the Waterville toddler who police believe met with foul play, faces a charge of domestic violence after his arrest in Portland a week ago.
The alleged victim in the case is one of only three people who were home the night Reynolds disappeared.
Portland police say a lieutenant spotted Justin DiPietro, 26, in front of 88 Spring St. on July 6 at 11:15 p.m. He and a woman, a former girlfriend, were arguing when he grabbed and pushed her, a police statement said.
DiPietro was charged with domestic violence assault and is currently free on bail.
The 25-year-old Portland woman, is not Ayla Reynolds’ mother, Trista Reynolds.
Court records show DiPietro was ordered after his arrest to have no contact with Courtney Roberts as a condition of bail. Roberts, who has lived on Spring Street, was at the house the night Reynolds disappeared, along with DiPietro’s sister.
No one answered the door Monday at DiPietro’s mother, Phoebe DiPietro’s, house at 29 Violette Ave. in Waterville — the site from where Ayla Reynolds, 20 months old at the time, disappeared on Dec. 17, 2011.
Neighbors said Phoebe DiPietro works out of the home. While court papers show that Justin DiPietro lives at that address, reports are that he lives in Portland.
A sign next to a maple tree on the lawn bears Ayla’s photograph and the words, “Missing, Ayla Bell Reynolds, Please call 911.” A no trespassing sign hangs on the tree.
DiPietro has been at the center of one of the biggest investigations in Maine State Police history. Police initially tried to find the girl, then after declaring they believed she was no longer alive, continue to investigate her death.
DiPietro called police the morning she disappeared to report that she was not in her room. She had been last seen the night before, when she was put to bed.
Nobody has been charged, but police have said they do not believe DiPietro, Roberts and his sister, Elisha DiPietro, the third adult in the house that night, have told them everything they know.
Reynolds’ grandfather, Ronald Reynolds, 53, of Mona Road in Portland, was charged this spring with threatening a family member with a knife. When officers arrived at the home at 6 p.m. on May 31, Reynolds resisted and police used a Taser on him, police said.
Police said the incident had nothing to do with the missing child.

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john said...

Welcome back Peter,i hope all went well..

Anne said...

Hopefully the stress of lying and hiding along with the fighting within the group of three will cause someone to speak out.

veruca said...

This is the kind of man he is. He hasn't spoke a lick of truth for his little girl (he knows what happened)...pushes and knocks around his girlfriend....assaulting your alibi is a stupid move Justin!
Hope this dirt bag goes down soon.

dadgum said...

..wish there was video of the taser.

cleo said...

How about that... the baby beater beats his "alibi." Smarten up Courtney & ask for immunity before he hurts you or your kid worse.

Anonymous said...

I am pleased to see you back Peter. The children have been acting up while you were gone.

I am with Anne, I hope the stress of lying and hiding will cause someone to speak. I think it is the only way LE will get a lead. Same for the Hailey Dunn case. I believe unless Shawn, Billie or David speak out there will be no arrest. Local anon in the Hailey Dunn case.

lane said...

Portland police say a lieutenant spotted Justin DiPietro, 26, in front of 88 Spring St. on July 6 at 11:15 p.m. He and a woman, a former girlfriend, were arguing when he grabbed and pushed her, a police statement said.

I'm glad he was caught in the act by the lieutenant.

JerseyJane said...

Boy, Justie is looking more and more Pansy Ass-ish.. Losing his manhood day by day from all that hiding behind the He-Man women' skirts in his live!!
Bahahahaha!!
The dude even has to hide behind the truth of what happened to his baby daughter and her current whereabouts!
Damn, that's some major Pansy Ass going on!!!!
His looks are gearing him up for prison, going to be 'the skirt' there!!!

Lemon said...

Justin is an equal opportunity bully - little girls and big girls. . .

I wonder where Lance and his mini-bat were at during this time?

Trigger said...

Justin Dip is not the brightest crayon in the box. Only an idiot would attack his alibi and get caught.

I wonder what set him off?

Is Courtney fed up with Justin's attitude?

I agree that Courtney should make a deal with LE that gives her immunity from Ayla's death.

Trigger said...

Great comparison, Lemon!
Giggle, chortle, and laugh!

Lance has a mini bat to compliment his small brain.

rkg said...
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veruca said...

And mini-manhood

Sella35 said...

@ Anonymous cleo said...
How about that... the baby beater beats his "alibi." Smarten up Courtney & ask for immunity before he hurts you or your kid worse...
/ditto!! Take immunity and tell the truth before something happens to you or your child.

peter answer that question said...

Wonder why no one has referred to this creepy ass cracka as a 'thug'. Things that make you wanna go hummm.

courtney said, fuck immunity said...

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KarenT said...

I don't know, maybe it's me... But I think being called a baby killer is much worse than being called a thug. And JP is too much of a weenie to be called a thug. Why go hmmm?? Hmmmm???

Pak31 said...

I really hate to say this but just looking at him you can tell something isn't right.

brosnanfan said...

And one by one, the House of Cards begins to fall.

I believe that now, we will finally begin to get some answers.

brosnanfan said...

Wow, Peter...I think that you might need to make liberal use of the delete/ban button. The rude and disgusting comments on this site are getting out of control. I used to be able to expect a relatively intelligent discussion here, no matter which side was taken...now, I have to look carefully to find a comment from a poster that ISN'T a/the troll.

Don't worry...I ain't going anywhere, though. (Because I know you were totally worried, lol!)

Anonymous said...

Dont be rascist you ugly baboon.

Dawn said...

When I read the headline I said to myself, "not agian, what has Clint Dunn been arrested for this time".

sodewalk super said...



phoebe, congratulations!

He looks just like you!

Wonder if courtney still thinks this guy is such a "stud"?

He may have drug distribution payment problems, do ya think?

rob said...

I always think of a 'thug' as more of a wanna-a-be. Justin is a confirmed baby killer.

Anonymous said...

Clint Dunn is, in fact, in jail. I don't know the charge but heard he is in jail. Local anon in the Hailey Dunn case

veruca said...

Fetal alcohol syndrome....

Anonymous said...

Let's hope Courtney was wired and more arrests will follow.

john said...

OT..

Woolwich: Prison Staff Deny Adebolajo Assault.

Police are investigating after Michael Adebolajo complained he was injured as he was being restrained at Belmarsh.

Prison officers "strenuously deny any wrongdoing" after Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo reportedly lost two teeth while being restrained in jail.

The 28-year-old was injured at high security Belmarsh prison in south east London on Wednesday, where he is being held on suspicion of murdering soldier Lee Rigby.

The Prison Officers Association (POA) said its members would challenge the allegations made by the prisoner.

"We are aware of an incident that took place on Wednesday July 17, which involved a prisoner being subjected to restraint using approved techniques called Control and Restraint," it said in a statement.

"Our members strenuously deny any wrongdoing and the POA will be supporting them legally and emotionally during this difficult time.

"The use of restraint is only used where necessary when dealing with incidents up and down the country."

It said it will fully co-operate with any police investigation, and expects the officers to be "fully exonerated".

The prison officers' trade union also accused the Ministry of Justice of not doing enough to avoid what they described as "sensationalist reporting" of the alleged assault.

The Prison Service has refused to comment on the detail of what happened, but the Met Police confirmed it was investigating an allegation of assault. prison. An investigation has been started."

Adebolajo is accused together with Michael Adebowale, 22, of hacking Drummer Rigby to death near Woolwich Barracks in south east London on May 22. The pair are due to stand trial at the Old Bailey on November 18.

http://news.sky.com/story/1117925/woolwich-prison-staff-deny-adebolajo-assault

Anonymous said...

STFU YOU RACSIST CHIMP^^^^^

learn how to spell said...

Anon: 11:08 It's RACIST NOT RACSIST. You can thank me later. lol

a thug by any other name is a thug said...

OK, so he's a baby killer. He is also a wanna be, by your definition is a THUG.

Mckay said...

Rob: He is NOT a confirmed baby killer. Remember, he has not been charged and convicted. He IS living the THUG LIfE.

Mckay said...

Anon: Please stop referring to your mama as a CHIMP. That's not nice. Two swift kicks in your arse.

Shelley said...

Just the statment that a grandfather had to be tasered.. A grandfather of an adult (much older) no less is just shocking.

That says so much about this family and what Alya could have encountered.

If you have no concerns even against police, I can only imagine what they would be comfortable doing to a small child.

I hope they step up on this one.

Not that I dont think Billie or some of the other parents also were responsible for the death of their own children...

BUT, I feel like the simple fact that the police stated he amount of blood found in the basement of Ayla was enough that they do not feel she could have survived is such strong evidence in this case to me.

I am shocked that nothing has been done.

I mean, Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson were both conviced for much less and in both cases no bodies have ever been found but there was also no blood.

Granted, Drew has a history that I think helped convict him. But Scott.. There was very little and he is in jail.



LE needs to step up in this case as I believe there is enough to convict.
Motive: Life insurance policy taken out only on her and not both his kids shortly before her death.
What was described as more than a cup full of the childs blood in his basement. Likely the main reason cops believe the child is not alive

Several prior cases where the child had bruising or broken bones.
He predicted that she may be kidnapped by sending Trista a text message stating “I fear someone is going to take the child.” Who on earth says this? NO ONE
Has problems with drugs
Didn’t search for her.
I think there is enough to convict but that is just me.

brainmatter said...

Thug is too nice a word for this guy. But you have a point . . .

Nanna Frances said...

Shelly said,
"Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson were both convicted for much less and in both cases no bodies have ever been found but there was also no blood."
Scott Peterson was arrested after Laci's body washed ashore. Drew Peterson was convicted for the murder of this third wife, not Stacy. Kathleen's sister had a suitcase full of evidence which she gave the media when Stacy Peterson disappeared.

I am encouraged that LE saw the incident. Courtney could have been hurt or worse. I hope that means LE is keeping a close watch on Justin Dipshit.

Trigger said...

"i hope that means that LE is keeping a close watch on Justin Dipshit."

I have the same hopes, Nanna.

When Justin finally realizes that his movements are being carefully monitored by LE, he will get more desperate to control his sister and Courtney.

He doesn't have to worry about his mother because she will do as she's always done. She will continue to protect her son without any prompting or reinforcement.

Anonymous said...

There is a utube video of Trayvons visit to the store.

The store clerk (who is also a black man) follows Travyon as he walks thru the stores never taking his eyes off of him. He clearly seems to also be concerned about this kid.

And all these photos the media is sharing are several years old. The photos NOT shown include him smoking pot, holding a GUN, and flipping off the camera. Very different from this sweet faced kid we see on the media.

Travyon is also about 6' 2 or larger. He has a history of fighting.

He had a text from someone asking "you want a 22 revolver". Now, I dont know about you, but when was the last time someone randomly asked you that? This kid was likely looking to get a gun. That is concerning for a 16 yr old.

He has also been expelled from 3 schools? Its bad enough one school, but 3?

And his own mother had just kicked him out of her home. Clearly issues.



now at the end of the day, this all would not matter.

But I think that everyone is acting like this kid was just walking home with his skittles and was attacked by Zimmerman.

NO!

I think Zimmerman was watching him. Concerned just the same as the "BLACK MAN" was at the store who was watching his every move.

The kid looked shady. Its not the hoodie. Its his overall demeanor.

We all know what I mean. There are some kids/adults that look shady. Does not mean the clean cut guy in a business suit is not a rapist, but from history, these kids that dress like thugs, usually are thugs.

So, Zimmerman should have stayed in his car.

Yes, but I think he was frustrated about the string of break ins and likely was not letting it happen again.

I think however that Travyon who could have just gone home when Zimmerman got out of his car choose to attack Zimmerman.

Its not like he was cornered and had no where to go.

Zimmerman just asked what he was doing there. Had he just said he was walking back to his dads girlfriends house, I think it would have never esculated.




and just pay attention to his friend Rachel Jeantel statments since. she has tripped herself up a few times.


Go read the transcripts. She also trips up about weather she was on the phone with him at the time of the beating or not. She contradicts herself.

I really think she knows more.

Would love Peter to analyze her statements.

Also interesting is the fact that the first person she spoke to about all this, was Trayvons dad. Not police.

Why did dad call her? Did he call just to see what happened? or did he call to direct her what to say.



Everyone needs to stop making this a black thing. ITS NOT.


And for the hoards of people protesting.... How is it that we dont see these volumes of protests against child molestors or murderers that were willful.

I mean, why is everyone focused on somethign that is only another way to say that a black person was disprespected.

This is not what happened. HE ATTACKED another man.

He towered over George and at the time, George was thin.

He has a history of fighting.

This is self defense.




So if everyone would pull their heads out of their back side and read the facts they would see this for what it is.


And someday maybe people will protest for the right reasons.

Like against Michael Jackson having charges dropped for child molestation.

For times the judges let out convicted rapists who then go out and kill

Where is the real concern for right and wrong here.

It is simply lacking.

Because people dont really care about Trayvon.


There are thousands of black kids killed everyday.

Why this case?

Why now?

Why not help with what matters.

Find these missing kids.

Rather than put so much energy on one case out of millions....


I think this proves that people just dont pay attention to the words or the actions.

They hear what they want. They jump on causes because everyone else is.



Statment analysis could not be more important.

Anonymous said...

Thanks!i Always Used"rascist",But i spelt "chimp"right!

~ABC said...

Anon @ 1:20
I agree with all you've said.

Trayvon Martin is the fulfillment of MLK's dream that people would be judged on the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.

Trayvon's violent actions are why he is dead. I wonder how many parents, who are claiming his killing is about race, understand the message they are sending to their children? Do they want to teach them that it's okay to act any way you like and expect no negative consequences? The only people who are racist in this entire situation are the ones claiming it's about racism. They are playing the race card to cover the deplorable actions of Trayvon Martin. It's a mistake to do that people! You are teaching your children something that may cause them to wind up dead just like Trayvon. That sense of entitlement just because you happen to be other than Caucasian has got to stop. THAT attitude is racism at it's finest.

chimp monkey ape nike wearing ape said...

Chimps Ruin decent folks areas.

chimp monkey ape nike wearing ape said...

Chimps will be chimps!

dadgum said...

Obama just said that had TM been of age, and armed, could he have shot GZ because he was followed and felt threatened. If GZ did not assault him. or threaten with a gun..no! Obama even said 'followed in a car'. this is crazy..

I am shocked that Obama is not willing to admit that this would not have happened had TM not attacked. He is following the same uninformed, biased line of reasoning we hear daily.

Shooting someone following you is murder. Plain and simple.

dadgum said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9vZPRzmxPs

Watching the video, from all the camera angles, at no point is TM identifiable. His face is hidden by the hood of his sweatshirt, which is why so many who are robbing wear them. I could probably, however, pick the clerk out of a line up..

john said...

Hi dadgum,

I just watched that vt.My focus was on the cashier.

@6:02 TM walks away.Watch the cashier his body language,in my opinion is that of a nervous person.

He glances over his shoulder thinking TM has left,Then TM comes back,walking to the back of the shop,or the side.The cashier starts twisting and turning his torso with elbows raised and out,this gives the impression he is bigger than he is.Watch boxers when their going into a fight they inflate there body's to look more bigger thus coming across that they can look after themselves .Now,this maybe that the cashier is tired,or it maybe he is preparing himself for an altercation given that TM started to walk out then came back.

He then keeps his eyes on TM all the way out the shop.

No before you all jump all over me,i would've read the same body language if it was my friend cousin etc.

IMO

john said...

I meant to say now,not no.^^^^

dadgum said...

What's with the swaying? TM seems unable to stand up, leaning his abdomen on the counter repeatedly..at times he leans far forward toward the cashier...I used to work in a 7-11, and that swaying toward me and the register would cause concern..

John, did you hear the press conference Obama made today? Worthy of SA. Fuel to the fire, and it isn't Saturday yet...

I had a good conversation with my Fed Ex driver today. He asked if, as a woman alone a mile into the woods, his being black caused concern. I said no..nothing about him was sending that message, though plenty of 'white' men (and a couple of women) have.

Everyone take a piece of paper from your printer. Hold it against your forearm. The paper is white. We are all just different shades of tan. This is how I explained it when one of my kids asked why he is not 'white'. No one is white..well, maybe Anderson Cooper, lol

john said...

dadgum said.

John, did you hear the press conference Obama made today? Worthy of SA. Fuel to the fire, and it isn't Saturday yet...

I havn't dadgum.

To add to the cashiers body language when TM is at the till swaying back and forth as you rightly pointed out.

@0:50 the cashier scratches is left ear with his right hand,he may have an itch.In my opinion,in body language terms this is called a,manipulator,adapter or pacifier.(MAP'S)we do this to calm and sooth ourselves when nervous and or anxious,we all do it.Plus with the arm crossing over the body we are Unconsciously protecting the center of are body which is most vulnerable and were the heart is.

Did the cashier give a statement?
I would like to hear what he had to say about TMs visit to the 7/11.

IMO

Anonymous said...

Dadgum thanks for the link, this could be video of my kid. Trayvon knows the cashier, it's his neighborhood 7-11. Trayvon has to dig around for change in his pockets while standing at the counter. After paying, and being a teenage kid, he goes back for a nickel he saw on the floor ... and to check the price of the icetea as he thought it was marked less then he was charged.

dadgum said...

I was under the impression he was sent to stay with his dad, his girlfriend, and her son, after being kicked out of school again. He had visited perhaps, but resided with his mom.


Did Trayvon Martin live in gated community where he was shot
wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Trayvon_Martin_live_in_gated_com...
No, he lived in Miami. Trayvon was on 2-weeks suspension from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High after marijuana residue was found in a baggie in his backpack.

SANFORD, Fla. (AP/The Blaze) — Women’s jewelry and a watch found in Trayvon Martin’s school backpack last fall could not be tied to any reported thefts, the Miami-Dade Police Department said Tuesday.

The Miami Herald in its Tuesday editions reported that it had obtained a Miami-Dade Schools Police Department report that showed the slain teenager was suspended in October for writing obscene graffiti on a door at his high school. During a search of his backpack, the report said, campus security officers found 12 pieces of women’s jewelry, a watch and a screwdriver that they felt could be used as a burglary tool.

He does look like a young adult (I have 6 sons in their 20s and 30s) searching for change, pulling up his pants..but note in no place can you see his face.

Our local mall has signs warning a person will be removed from the property for having a hood up once inside. Hoodies are considered identity shielding apparel, because they hide faces from security cameras and passers by.

We used to live in SoCal, and yes..seeing someone pull up a hood before entering a store, or encountering another group on the street is cause for caution.



Shelley said...

Thank you ABC. I actually was a tad nervous to add my name as a frequent poster. . As if anyone knows who I really am.


Anyways, I am glad some others watched the utube video. I think it says a lot.

It goes back to the motive for George to call the police in the first place was not because he was black. And the records show that he calls frequently (neighborhood watch and they have had many breakins) but that while the majority have been black, that there were some that were white. So I think that is clear that he was not racially motivated.
Since I highly doubt he foresaw the future and figured he should call in some “white” people just to help his defense.

I also had to share another story that was brought up on the news last night that really has me upset. And the host of the panel last night talking about Travyon tired with out success to get everyone to focus on this case and care about this case with no luck.




A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville. Florida of all places.
Her husband was out on parole. They said for abusing her and there was a restraining order. I may not have everything correct as I couldn’t find anything else much about it outside what was said last night so excuse any errors.
But they said he was out on bail and showed up at her home. They began to fight and he was threating to kill her and had hit her.

She ran to get a gun with the intension of scaring him and eventually fired a single shot at the wall. Again, she was fearful of her life and her kids.
So for this, she gets 20 years?

She was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. WTH??

I was so angry. How does this happen?
She did not assault anyone. She fired at a wall out of fear.

What was interesting was she is a black woman and as many times as they tried to switch focus to her, no one cared. Especially the one black woman (Ms Ali) that has been on most of these panels lately yelling out about the wrongs of black people everywhere. She went so far as to say the reason Travyons friends speaks so poorly is cause she was probably afraid of all the white people and that all black people in room with white people are afraid because of what we did to the black people.
It was way out of line but it proved that people just get on the band wagon to prove a point. When there was a case that still could be changed possibly, no one wanted to do anything to help Marissa.

The other sad part, this man that was abusive now has custody of their kids.

I wish there something that could be done. I will say this, Jane Valdez said she was going to have some of her people look into it if there was anything that could be done.

I hope there is. I can not understand how this law was used in this case.
They even said she could have killed him and would likely be free today as it would just flat out be self defense.

dadgum said...

OT
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/18/dubai-woman-raped-jailed-extramarital-sex/2554045

Are they kidding??
..no..

Shelley said...

Link to the story about Marissa

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/07/18/marissa-alexander-aggravated-assault-story

dadgum said...

Shelley..
I don't like the way that turned out either. From what I understand, her husband is a piece of work, admitting proudly to 'putting his hands on' 5 of his kids' moms.

She was charged because after leaving the house going to garage, she didn't have her car keys, and grabbed the gun kept there. She went back into the house.

On the other side of the wall she fired through were two of her husband's children by other women. Sounds like this is the assault charge.

Jury deliberated 12 MINUTES.

john said...

dadgum your first OT is horrendous,and we think our laws are f&%$+d up...

this just keeps getting more ridiculous by the post said...

Anon

Where are you getting this info? First, TM was not in HIS neighborhood store, its been said 10,000x that he was visiting his fathers fiancée after being suspended from school. Apparantly nobody there knew him (to the point where his body lay at the morgue unidentified until the next day, another indicator of the fine parenting going on in Trayvon's life.)

And how in the WORLD could you know that TM returned to the back of the store to check the price of ice tea and pick-up a nickel? You state all of these things as if you are TM himself, smh!

john said...

Interesting Development – Trayvon Martin Quid Pro Quo at the 7-11?

UPDATE: CONFIRMED !

This is very interesting vt,i have never seen or even heard of this on the news.The first one wont work for me,the rest are very interesting.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/

Anonymous said...

What is going on in the Alanna Gallagher case? Now there has been two cases of arson. One at the house involving the car and another down the street at a makeshift memorial. Strange.

Jen said...

Hi dadgum-

I just watched the video and it has cemented my belief that GZ was suspicious of TM because he indeed appeared suspicious, and not because of the color of his skin...because it is nearly impossible to SEE the color of his skin! Every inch of TM is covered except for his OBSCURED face and part of his hands. It was dark out, and with the hood hanging over his face I highly doubt that when GZ picked up the phone to dial 911 he even KNEW what race TM was, much less made his decision to call based on it.

Jen said...

Also I have to say, TM does not appear to be in a 'normal' state of mind imo. He is swaying and slowed in his actions...it takes him FOREVER to dig out his money and pay. Then he goes to walk out, turns around and heads toward the back of the store, then stops short when he appears to drop/fumble something, and then turns to leave again without getting anything from the back of the store where he is headed.

Bitterness said...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52521248

dadgum said...

Jen..that's pretty much how I look on tapes at walmart...walking back and forth like I forgot why I am there. Well..sans hoodie.

Anonymous said...

In an interview just after the shooting, Zimmerman told police that the struggle began when Martin "jumped out from the bushes" and punched him in the face, knocking him down.
"I started screaming for help. I couldn't see. I couldn't breathe," he said.http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

Wonder how he screams without being able to breathe...

sidewalk super said...


Those pants look like they are falling off, a la "pants on the ground". Try fishing money out of pockets that difficult to find.

he he said...

Thanks for the laughts. Now, Peter can you update the post on when you will be in Colorado.

mckay said...

Someone is angry as hell. Wonder why? lol

Anonymous said...

Good question Anon @ 5:50! Course, you have to realize, people who want to believe lies and not even look for common sense truth, although they have already heard and SEEN lies right in their face with their own ears; will STILL look for excuses for a murderer like George Zimmerman when it comes to justifying the killing of a black youth.

Those lies they WANT to believe are their final excuse for letting this murderer off the hook, even allowing him to claim Trayvons' death screams as his own, as Trayvon stared death in the face via George's pistol.

Oh well, since Jesus sees even the little sparrow fall, he also saw Trayvon fall and there WILL be a day of reasoning; and THEN the penalty will be paid. We can all rest assured of that one.

Obscure said...

Just Stop The Lies!

sidewalk super said...

Good to hear the current president again making himself the center of attention.

Wonder if the mother and father of the deceased teenager realize that he is usurping their child, their pain, their race.

It is all about obama, politics as usual, only more so.

imo

Mainah said...

OT: Alanna Gallagher case

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/07/authorities-investigating-the-unsolved-killing-of-a-saginaw-girl-release-photos-of-two-cars-as-they-seek-to-identify-witnesses-in-the-case.html/

sidewalk super said...


back to the 7-11.....
If he is wearing his pants "on the ground", that would affect the way he walks, and maybe could be seen as swaying. Or, maybe not.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of assholes you all are. Making fun of a dead person... nice.
This was never about race to me... and all about an idiot with a gun itching to use it. If I saw some jackass running around, looking for me, with a gun, I'd hide too. I don't know if I'd run or beat his ass.
But I'd be scared, that's for sure.

clwpen said...

OT: racism analysis and george zimmerman. Peter said" I think george is an ass" You think but you really dont know. Peter said" zimmerman did not murder TM " The last time I checked shooting someone and killing them is MURDER" .Peter said I think ( again you dont know)the president is a vicious racist. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black ( no pun intended).Peter said "I taught my sons to dress respectfully,( you sound as though you are so puffed up with false pride because of clothing and how much better you are as a father because of it .... so very judgemental )and we are judged by our appearance and only liars say otherwise. Really peter , jesus embraced people from all walks of life that others shunned and shamed. Is he a liar? Peter said " I think trayvon was a violent thug who would have likely died before 30" What a horrible thing to say as his family is in mourning , no compassion from such a christian wanna be. By the way I subscribe to no religion. Peter said " Boys are stronger than girls" WHAT ? I have met women who could kick your ass. By the way that comment is COMPLETELY out of left field .Are you on the crack pipe peter? What relevance does this have to trayvon? There were no women involved in this story at all. Peter I started reading here when kyron horman went missing and have enjoyed this blog , but this makes me wonder....is it you making all of these nasty troll comments? are you secretly enjoying being decietful ? Why dont you let me know , im curious.

Anonymous said...

Please help find Ayla
Zimmermann tells different accounts of the struggle, He's lying
"He grabbed my head and started hitting it into the sidewalk," he said. "When he started doing that, I slid into the grass to try to get out from under him. ... I'm still yelling for help."
Sanford police chief fired in wake of Trayvon Martin case
Martin, he said, put his hand over Zimmerman's mouth and nose and told him, "You're going to die tonight."
"When I SLID, my jacket and my shirt came up. ... I felt his hand go down my side, and I THOUGHT (he was going) for MY FIREARM, SO I GRABBED IT IMMEDIATELY,( and as he banged my head again)*, I just pulled out my firearm and shot him."
When he did,HE SAID, MARTIN, WHO HAD BEEN ON TOP of him, fell away and said, "All right. You got it. You got it." In another interview, he noted Martin might have said, "You got me."

Each time I attempted to sit up, the suspect slammed my head into the sidewalk," he wrote. "My head felt like it was going to explode."
He wrote he felt Martin "reach for my now-exposed firearm" as the teen threatened his life and cursed at him.
A collection of public documents in Trayvon Martin shooting
During the videotaped voice stress test, he seemed to suggest that he wasn't sure he had hit Martin when he fired his gun, saying that he "thought that he heard the shot and he was giving up" and that he pushed Martin off of him.
"Either way, I ENDED UP ON TOP OF HIM, STRADDLING HIM,"* he said, but he claimed he "felt like (Martin) was hitting me with something in his hands" so he grabbed the youth's hands to restrain him. Martin was saying something like "ah, ah," and cursing, Zimmerman said, and he told him, "Stop. Don't move."
CNN's Vivian Kuo and Martin Savidge contributed to this report

During a voice stress test administered by police Zimmerman described the unarmed teenager as the aggressor. 

"He took my head and planted it into the concrete several times, and each time I thought my head was going to explode more than the last," Zimmerman said. 

Later he talked about the fatal shot, saying "AND I GRABBED MY GUN ...AND AIMED IT AT HIM ... AND FIRED ONE SHOT. He kind of sat back and said, 'You got me, you got it,' or something like that. And I thought he was saying that he heard the shot and that he was giving up. So I pushed him off me. I don't remember if I pushed him off me..."
Samford, FL (NBc News)

Anonymous said...

I want someone to explain this: GZ didn't do the right thing... he shouldn't have pursued TM. This gets passed right over. The focus is on TM for not doing the right thing of chatting nicely with GZ and/or just keep meandering home, despite being aware of some random guy with a weapon approaching him.

Anonymous said...

Ok.,,,xx you release a chimp into humanity.....It Cant cope,,,It Steals.....It becomes WILD AGAIN!

dadgum said...

There are several problems..GZ did not stalk TM for weeks, as has been said in some news interviews. TM did not live there, he was staying at his dad's girlfriend's for two weeks.

TM did not know GZ had a weapon until after he assaulted GZ.

There was no evidence of bias, racism, ill will according to police, witnesses, and FBI.

The racist statements were made by TM. 'Cracker' is a perjorative.

Yes, things could have gone better, that's for sure. If TM had not assaulted GZ, he would be alive today. He was not pursued by a gun wielding rapist.

Look to the facts, the evidence in this case. Not the inflammatory speakers and crowd opinion.

As for what Obama said today..if TM had a weapon, shooting would only be self defense if he was attacked. Not followed in a car or even on foot (Obama said in a car). I am disappointed in his lawyering skills...

IMO TM figured, as young men often do, that he could, as his girlfriend stated, 'whup some ass'. He thought it would be an easy fight. He was wrong.

dadgum said...

forgot this..911 operator (not an officer) told GZ he 'didn't have to do that', follow TM. That was followed by 'let me know if he does anything else'. Contradicting at best.

Obama should remain silent, and let this calm down. ALL boys should have his attention, black, white, Asian, and Hispanic. Equally. There is concern for all of them..

Anonymous said...

"911 operator (not an officer) told GZ he 'didn't have to do that', follow TM. That was followed by 'let me know if he does anything else'. "

Nope. The "Tell me if he does anything." is 12 lines before police dispatch tells him "WE don't need you to do that." And there is no word "else." You added that. It is "tell me if he does anything."

- Buckley

i luv my hoodies said...

Peter and several other posters on here all hold the same beliefs about fashion/clothing. Its snobbery at the very least.

Anonymous said...

"He grabbed my head and started hitting it into the sidewalk," he said. "When he started doing that,I SLID INTO THE GRASS to try TO GET OUT FROM UNDER HIM I'm still yelling for help."
Sanford police chief fired in wake of Trayvon Martin case
Martin, he said, put his hand over Zimmerman's mouth and nose and told him, "You're going to die tonight."
"When I SLID, my jacket and my shirt came up. ...I FELT HIS HAND GO down my side, and I THOUGHT (he was going) for MY FIREARM, SO I GRABBED IT IMMEDIATELY,( and as he banged my head again)*, I just pulled out my firearm and shot him."

GZ slid out from under Trayvon, he admits this, "When I SLID, my jacket and my shirt came up" therefore this is a lie: ( "and as he banged my head again") where are Trayvons hands? "I FELT HIS HAND GO down my side"
GZ is lying about the struggle.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 10:02- you're cutting and pasting a summary and the order is messed up- according to Zimmerman TM only said you're going to die tonight after he supposedly saw the gun.

We really need a transcript of the reenactment video! And not McClish's; he finds plenty examples of deception and excuses them in a way we never see on here.

-Buckley

Anonymous said...

OK, I see the line where dispatch says "anything else," but still way before the "We don't need you to do that."

- Buckley

Jen said...

Well said Dadgum.

For those saying that GZ didn't have a right to follow TM...he did. He was the neighborhood watch captain and he had called in other suspicious activities/people in the past...that's what neighborhood watch does. Unfortunately this is a case where the saying 'perception is reality' comes to life. GZ's neighborhood had experienced a large number of break-in's and if that made GZ hyper-sensitive then so be it...but he DID have a right to check out and yes, even follow a suspicious person through his neighborhood. He was not in violation of the law by following TM. He was not told to stop following TM by the 911 operator, only that they didn't 'need him to do that'. The incident turned violent because instead of continuing his walk home, TM decided to confront GZ, at which point HE became the aggressor. He took the incident from one man watching another (not a crime), to one man verbally engaging and then physically attacking another (a violent criminal act). Even by the story of Jentel, TM confronted GZ. He could have kept walking and minding his own business,or even ran home if he was scared (so scared that he approached the danger). But instead he chose to teach the 'creepy ass cracker' a lesson...and he got more than he bargained for.

What parents should be telling their teenage sons to learn from this (be they black, white or otherwise) is that you don't initiate a fight...for any reason. It doesn't matter if the other person creeps you out, talks to your girl, cuts you off in traffic or 'disrespects you' (dont even get me started on these teens and their 'disrespected me' bullcrap). If someone had taught TM this, then he would be alive today.

Anonymous said...

what ? then teach them that if you do react you will be shot? WOW what a lesson!

Anonymous said...

god forbid you react to an asshole bullying you

Anonymous said...

this is the epitome of white supremecy

Anonymous said...

the idea that what you wear , how you walk , how you talk, or that you are in a white area you will be shot if someone questions what you are doing there

Anonymous said...

what kind of sick thinking

Anonymous said...

It's your opinion TM became the aggressor. But I agree with you that Zimmerman was following him, even though Zimmerman won't admit it. Zimmerman wasn't arrested for following him, he was arrested for shooting him. And we see deceptive language and inconsistencies in his statements about what transpired.

1. GZ was walking back to his truck, with his back to the fight area, and TM appeared from somewhere and was on the sidewalk ("about where you are," he said to police). No wait, TM was in the bushes and sprang out on GZ. How can both be true? Either he saw TM come out of the bushes like he said in the interview room or he first saw him on the sidewalk like he said when he was reenacting at the scene and no bushes were close to the scene.

2. He couldn't find his phone even though he had put it away less than 60 seconds before. In another statement, he pulls it out, no mention of difficulty.

3. He fell, stumbled, no Martin pushed him. He doesn't remember exactly.

There are more...Why can't GZ get this story straight?

How about all this present tense in this statement to Det. Serino? Normally, statement analysis says present tense is an indicator that something is not from memory, right?:

"He **puts** his hand on my nose and my mouth, and he **says** 'You are going to die tonight," said Zimmerman. "As he banged my head again, I just pulled out my firearm and shot him… He **is** mounted on top of me, and I just shot him, and he **falls** off. And **he's**, like, ‘Alright you got it, you got it.’”

"Alright?" That sounds like the word of someone giving up on the fight, not someone who has been mortally wounded. And I'm still having trouble with how TM is on top of GZ, banging his head on the pavement, GZ shoots and TM falls back? That only makes sense if TM is getting up off of him after he sees the gun but before GZ shoots. HMM...

But I agree with Jen, GZ was following Martin. Why GZ chose to lie about that is telling.

- Buckley

chimpish said...

Ok Lets look At this fact,,,,a chimp a 6ft2 Evil cunning animal attacked a man,,,,,the man was braver,stronger.now the chimp is no more.whats the Problem?????? This is a good result.shut up "do gooders"your hypocrites who,d shit a brick If chimpy would have threatened YOU.

Jen said...

I'm not a white supremacist and for your info my ancestery is considered a minority. Since you clearly missed the point, while once again trying to make this about race, I will reiterate.

We should teach our kids not to INITIATE a violent encounter for any reason. Resorting to violence only makes a bad situation worse, and could end in a situation like this where someone dies because cooler heads didn't prevail. As I stated, if TM felt scared or 'bullied' as you assert, then he could/should have gone home or used his cell phone to call 911 and request help.

Jen said...

I'm not a white supremacist and for your info my ancestery is considered a minority. Since you clearly missed the point, while once again trying to make this about race, I will reiterate.

We should teach our kids not to INITIATE a violent encounter for any reason. Resorting to violence only makes a bad situation worse, and could end in a situation like this where someone dies because cooler heads didn't prevail. As I stated, if TM felt scared or 'bullied' as you assert, then he could/should have gone home or used his cell phone to call 911 and request help.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It's your opinion TM became the aggressor. But I agree with you that Zimmerman was following him, even though Zimmerman won't admit it. Zimmerman wasn't arrested for following him,

Was GZ's car marked "Neighborhood Watch"? Did GZ identify himself as Neighborhood Watch? Did GZ tell Trayvon that he was armed? Did GZ tell Trayvon that he had called police?

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john said...

What is Obama doing?

His tribute to Trayvon was, is acceptable.

However to go on and talk about racism and his experiences is unacceptable.He is adding fuel to the fire.The (rallies) planned for today i will gaurantee, won't end peacefully.

All over the country people are killing each other,white on white black on black,black on white,hispanic on black,you get the picture.so why now is Obama injecting himself into this tragic event,why not all the other racial murders,as this one is (claimed) to be.

Why this one and why now??

Jen said...

Hi John

Because it further divides Americans (divide & conquer) and allows him another platform to push for gun control and the continued erosion of our rights...

john said...

OT..

Car fire investigated at home of slain Saginaw girl..

Snipped:

“If it had been much longer, "THE" "HOUSE" would have been on fire with us in it,” said Gallagher, who was at home with her husband, Karl Gallagher, and Miles McDaniel, another man who lives with them. “We are very grateful to our neighbors.”

"THE HOUSE"=This for me is very telling.Why the distancing language.Why wont she take ownership of her HOME.

I would expect her to say:If it had been much longer, "OUR" "HOME" would have been on fire with us in it,”

The house conjures up,for me anyway,when i am "house" hunting.

I would say im going to view a HOUSE,I would say house because i dont OWN it yet.Yet she calls it "THE HOUSE",and she lives there.

When i move in to said HOUSE, it then becomes MY HOME.

Our,or were they trying to destroy evidence.I would question this strongly.

There are a lot more sensitivities in this article,but this jumped off the page.

Read more:

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/19/5012462/fires-investigated-at-home-of.html

john said...

To add to my post.Remember the man who burned down his house,He called it his HOME,then when he burned it down it became his HOUSE.Could we be dealing with similar circumstances?

john said...

Slain Child's Mother Says She Is Frightened After Arson.


Laura Gallagher spoke just hours after her home nearly caught fire.

VT.

I know i bang on about emotions and were and when the should be seen in an appeal for their daughter/son,and or the death of their daughter/son.

Again, as i always say when a parent speaks to the media,watch it first with the sound down.What emotions do you see,or what emotions don't you see.

In this vt i see a parent showing no emotion's whatsoever..Were is the sadness,were is the grief,and were is the anger?

I would be in bits if it was my son/daughter who was murdered.

Here is the Kicker.

When she found out her daughter had been murdered she never pleaded for the killer/killers to come forward and confess...Yet when there is a fire,she comes out to make a statement.

Not only that,she says:

"WOKEN by doorbell, banging on the DOOR," she said. "Fortunately, a neighbor had come over to WAKE US. WE'D BEEN ASLEEP UPSTAIRS."

"DOOR"=When the word door enters a persons statement there maybe some history of abuse.Here it is used i believe in context given that she says "doorbell"


"WOKEN BY DOORBELL" Here she drops the pronoun *I*,this lacks ownership of "being asleep"

She then says:

"Fortunately, a neighbor had come over to WAKE US"

Here she tells us again they were asleep,we no this why tell us again?

She goes on again to say:

WE'D BEEN ASLEEP UPSTAIRS."

Again she tells us they were ASLEEP,only this time she tells us they were upstairs.

"WOKEN by doorbell"

"WAKE US"

"ASLEEP UPSTAIRS"

Is this alibi building?

Did they set the fire themselves to divert attention away from them,or is this some very sick people adding to their (Grief)believing they apart of this poor little girls tragic death?

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Slain-Childs-Mother-Speaks-About-Arson-Daughters-Death-216223151.html

Anonymous said...

State Attorney[edit]
Corey made the decision to run for the office of State Attorney in 2006. After her candidacy became known, her working relationship with Shorstein became difficult. He terminated her employment in November 2006.[8] Afterwards, she was hired by John Tanner, State Attorney for the Seventh Judicial Circuit, to perform the same job functions she did in Jacksonville, working homicide cases in St. Johns County.[6][9]
The following day, Shorstein called a news conference and announced that he would retire at the end of his current term and not run for re-election in 2008.[10] In the following election, Shorstein supported his chief assistant, Jay Plotkin. On August 26, 2008, Corey defeated Plotkin with more than 64% of the votes cast.[11]
Upon taking office, Corey terminated 10 assistant state attorneys, as well as "half of the office’s investigators, two-fifths of its victim advocates, a quarter of its 35 paralegals, and 48 other support staff — more than one-fifth of the office."[2][12][13][14] In 2010, the Florida Times-Union reported that Corey sent 230 juvenile felony cases to adult court in 2009. This amounted to twice the number of juvenile felony cases placed in adult court in the years prior to Corey becoming State Attorney.[15] Wikipedia

Anonymous said...

Because He has chimp face.

Anonymous said...

for the president to inject himself into this trial and go public with his opinions of it - is fuel for the fire that's about to begin in this sad country.
He's a criminal, liar and cheat himself so it stands to reason he would take pity on another thug.

He should be using his public statement to say things like: brother and sisters, violence isn't the answer. But, he won't cause he needs the diversion as he does his devils work. The more distracted the public is the more he gets away with.

hi there said...

The current president is the problem with the zimmerman case as it is now.

He needs to forget about his racism and encourage the nation to accept the jury decision.

It is pointless to continue on with conjecture on those events, as the jury heard the evidence presented and did decide the facts and did make their legal decision.

When it is over...it is over.

Seems to me the current president might take some quiet time and peruse the job application angela corey seems to be covertly sending him.

Anonymous said...

Gssshhh how many times can this poor GZ be tried? Leave him alone already. Justice was served. Let him live his life. The president wants to drill him until there is nothing left. Makes me sick.

agree with you said...

Re anony @ 7:27

like all bullies, making sure he is picking fights he can win (he thinks)

john said...
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Anonymous said...

All you Anons, AND Peter and his cultist followers, who so quickly justify and stomp a mans' life as if it means nothing; defaming and calling a frightened young black man a thug who was innocently trying to walk home to his fathers' residence and who has never been arrested and PROVED to be a felony thug, are a sickening sight to behold trying to justify yourselves.

Good on Obama to speak up; however, we don't need the President to tell us this trial was unjust and white-washed to clear the lying, deceitful murderer of killing an innocent young black man; millions of us can see that for ourselves.

You warped disgusting losers hate Obama because he is black and is President of the U.S., stupidly refusing to see that Obama can do nothing single-handedly that affects YOUR well-being or lack of, without the vote of Congress and the House of Reps (YOUR republicans have the final say!)

Setting Obama aside for a moment; in your despicable jealousy of a (black) man who has accomplished far more than you ever will or ever could; you prove the words of Chevy Chase: "I'm Chevy Chase and you're not" Git over it already.

Obama has the right to stand up for Trayvon Martin and his race, as does Al Sharpton and his co-harts, just as I and millions of others DO. Guess what? We ARE human beings with a voice; with the right to question that justice was not served in this case, when it clearly wasn't. We see that no one has been charged or prosecuted for the many lies, distortions and perjuries that were committed in open court, and that the 'not guilty' verdict was based on lies, INCLUDING those made by George Zimmerman, your favored murderer, his family and his attorneys.

You claim your disgust that Casey Anthony got away with killing little Casey, and claim your disgust at her parents' lies and perjuries for their deliberate cover up for their daughter; yet it's hunky-dory time for you all who wanted George Zimmerman to walk free for stalking and murdering the young black man, which suits you just fine. You who swat at a nat and swallow a camel make me gag. Literally.

perplexed said...



swat at a rat?

and the camel thing??

more perplexed said...


oh dear,

you must clean your keyboard..

Anonymous said...

ANON 8:31

Were you this outraged when your fellow black brother OJ Simpson got away with mudering a white woman? Clearly that trial was black washed to the hilt!

Whites didn't protest in the streets like a bunch of thug hooligans~

Anonymous said...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a70_1374030948

This man is correct!

john said...

Anonymous said...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a70_1374030948

This man is correct!
..........................................................................
WOW..

Holy mackeral Batman :0

Anonymous said...

Perplexed @ 8:39, you obviously have not read the Bible. If you had, you would recognize the scripture "you swat at a NAT (not rat) and swallow a camel."

Anon @ 8:31, I watched the video you posted. This preacher is wrong on so many counts. For one, Trayvon did not go to the 7-11 to purchase the iced tea and skittles because he had the munchies from smoking pot, he purchased them for his little step-brother who was WAITING for him to return with his treats and to watch the ballgame with him.

For another, Trayvon was NOT being paranoid in 'imagining' that George Zimmerman was following him. George Zimmerman WAS following him. He is ALSO wrong in his statements that all those who question that George Zimmerman unfairly profiled Trayvon Martin, and that George lied about and deliberately killed him do not know Jesus. Dead wrong.

I know Jesus and follow his teachings, he is my dearest friend; and I most assuredly DO question every one of George Zimmermans' lies and the deliberate provocation and murder of Trayvon Martin. It is this self-styled preacher who doesn't know Jesus; otherwise, he TOO would be standing up for the court sanctioned injustice of the murder of Trayvon Martin, just as Jesus TOLD us to defend the innocent and to speak out for them; which you would KNOW this if you knew Jesus and knew his teachings.

Anonymous said...

The child Trayvon was left in charge of a little child (how old?), abandoned him to get snacks while the parents partied elsewhere. They didn't even know where he was. How long would your little boy lay unidentified in the morgue?

The store clerk asked the next young man to remove his hood. Most stores have a shirt, shoes, no hoods sign.

President Obama never said it was white people locking doors, observing in stores and clutching purses to their breasts. It is other black people as well. Because they know, and fear strange young men, now wearing hoods up.

Look at the facts of the case through unbiased eyes, if you are able. I don't think you are. Everything is not black versus white, even though wealthy media like Jackson and Sharpton want you to think so. Without racial divide, they would be out of a job.

karma is a bitch and she is not cute said...

Race Baiter, you are up early this morning with your bs. How much do you get paid for each comment YOU WRITE? Well, if this is the only way for you to make a decent living then carry on. Cry me a river when your son turn out to be a killer like George Zimmerman and your daughter a dope head slut like Trista Reynolds. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 8:21 and 9:19 a.m., aka Anne, Observer, etc. ad nauseam, too bad the real estate brokerage market hasn't picked up enough to take up some of your time.

Do the rest of us, especially Peter, a favor and take your venom spewing back to Topix, OK?

Anonymous said...

Wt with tats

Anonymous said...

Wt with tats

Anne said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous @ 8:21 and 9:19 a.m., aka Anne, Observer, etc. ad nauseam, too bad the real estate brokerage market hasn't picked up enough to take up some of your time.

Do the rest of us, especially Peter, a favor and take your venom spewing back to Topix, OK?

July 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM
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I have been reading this blog for quite some time. I have enjoyed learning about SA.
I agree with statements at times and once in awhile I will comment. There are times I don't agree, I can't remember ever commenting against Peter or the bloggers here, I like to hear all sides.
I haven't been rude to anyone.

Until this blog I didn't really know what a troll was, but I don't come to this site nearly as often as I used to as the filthy comments make it harder to follow conversations/discussions.

I don't understand how my name is being attached to the troll stuff.

I haven't even commented on the TM case. I am not sure how I feel about it, in my mind I am going back and forth looking at both sides, if and when I am ready to make a comment on the trial I will.

So that being said, anon @ 10:21, please don't lump me in with anyone or any group. I enjoy this blog and I enjoy the regular posters knowledge, I also enjoy hearing all the different views from other posters.
I have told others in my family/friends group about this blog as after learning about SA I think it can be used a lot in everyday life (but can make you feel differently about people when you notice deception).

Wishing everyone a great day with in-depth discussions, conversations and opinions sans arguments, fighting and awful comments. Also hopefully without accusations.
Best Wishes, Anne

Anonymous said...

When referring to the burning of a physical structure, I would expect "house." A "home" is more than a physical structure.

- Buckley

Sella35 said...

This is an interesting piece on TM/GZ case. Funny how the MSM has left this stuff out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

john said...

Update:

Trayvon Martin’s Mother Speaks Out With Sharpton At Rally Outside NYPD.

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Prior to a rally outside NYPD Headquarters on Saturday, the mother of Trayvon Martin said she is proud of her son, and that she will work to maintain a foundation in his name to help “other victims of senseless guns violence.”

Sybrina Fulton was joined by Al Sharpton, Jay Z and Beyonce at National Action Network.

As 1010 WINS’ Carol D’Auria reported, Fulton, along with Sharpton and hundreds of supporters, were heading to Police Plaza for the rally.

“They need to change the laws that we all know need changing, because they don’t work for us.” Fulton said.

She told the crowd of supporters at National Action Network that she has moved on from the verdict and is ready to start a new chapter.

Her son, Fulton said, may not have been perfect — but he was no burglar.

“I am still the proud mother of Trayvon Martin,” she said.

Similar rallies are taking place across the country on Saturday.

This comes one day after President Obama weighed in in on the acquittal of George Zimmerman in Florida last weekend, CBS 2′s Janelle Burell reported.

“We are deeply honored and moved that President Obama took the time to speak publicly and at length about our son, Trayvon,” the family said. “The President’s comments give us great strength at this time.”

Martin’s father, Tracy Martin, is set to be at a similar event at a federal courthouse in Miami.

Sharpton’s National Action Network is planning rallies in 100 cities to press for federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.

The Justice Department is investigating whether Zimmerman violated Martin’s civil rights when he shot the 17-year-old during a confrontation last year in Sanford, Fla.

Zimmerman says he fired in self-defense. He was acquitted last Saturday of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges.http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/20/trayvon-martins-mother-to-join-al-sharpton-in-nyc-rally-saturday/

john said...

Sella35 said...
This is an interesting piece.

Ive just watched that vt.

The cocktail of,Arizona Watermelon fruit Juice,Skittles and Cough Syrup,you get a cheap codeine based drink called lean was an eye opener.

And what did Trayvon have on him,yes you guessed it,Arizona Watermelon fruit Juice,Skittles,two thirds of the ingredients to make a codeine based drink...

This is a must watch.Thanks for the link Sella35..

Anonymous said...

Wow, "Anne said" @ 11:58. Just wow.

God bless you, be merciful unto you, and make his light to shine upon you.

I know who you are, I know what you do said...

Double Wow, Anne, Thank you very much, however, God has already blessed me to see what a filthy evil minded monster you are. May his light shine upon your evil vile spirit.

noexit88 said...

There is no exit from the truth!

Anonymous said...

John, I'm surprised at you. You're the smartest and brightest poster on here, usually validating with authenticity and looking at every aspect with a fair mind and not taking sides in these ugly, biased and warped self-serving issues. There seemed to have been some hope for you. Now this.

I suggest you get back to being the wise person you usually are. Don't let yourself get hood-winked.

Sella35, maybe you ought to clear your every footstep with your psychic before you decide to breathe for yourself?

As for the rest of you supporters of a murderer, what are you so worried about? Why get your bowels in an uproar when you clearly out number those who cry out and plead for mercy for the innocent and those treated unjustly? You've already won, so what's your problem?

Just pray you don't end up like George Zimmerman whose hands hold the blood of an innocent man, and whose mind, body and eyes are already gorged with the blood of the innocent one he murdered. Chew on that for a while and seek mercy for the innocent and persecuted that you unfairly accuse. Don't forget, pay back is a b'tch.

john said...

Anonymous Anonymous 2:37 said...

John, I'm surprised at you. You're the smartest and brightest poster on here, usually validating with authenticity and looking at every aspect with a fair mind and not taking sides in these ugly, biased and warped self-serving issues. There seemed to have been some hope for you. Now this.

.........................................................................

Well anon 2:37,you obviously havn't been following my posts.I have put forward my opinions on both TM and GZ, good and bad in this tragic case.I have always stated i was on the fence with this,so much so i have splinters in my A&&.

Do your research on my postings and then you may have a different opinion about me..

Have a nice day.

dadgum said...

hood-winked?? lolol

Everyone has their own opinion, the facts remain the facts.

I am saddened that so many are heavily influenced by media, and by those who profit from discord. I am saddened by those who turn to name calling, and ridicule, because someone voiced an opinion different than many of his/her 'race'.

We are all free to have our own opinion, whatever our background or beliefs. We must realize that opinion is just that. It may not be the facts. It may not be the law.

john said...

Well put dadgum :)

I dropped the ball there for a moment.

Damn you splinters..

dadgum said...

One of my boys brought up the mixture thing..here it's called grape drink. idk..sounds awful.
Why not just take the prescription cough syrup and leave out the tea and skittles? I must be getting old..

Anne said...

Regarding the drink, I don't understand the codeine part of the mix. There isn't codeine in regular Robitussin/cough syrup and if they had the prescription kids wouldn't need to mix anything, I guess it could be for flavor?

Also I have a question, how do I get my name in blue.

dadgum said...

Using the 'google account' option. You can go to gmail.com, and get an address. I never look at mine, just have it to log in to things.

You have an option to leave info, if you want to. I don't. Once you are logged in, and choost the google option to post, you just click on 'publish your comment'.
:)
You can also receive comments at the gmail address, if you want.

dadgum said...

I don't get the drink either. I do know a lot of kids think otc cough meds make a person loaded, or sleepy. Not any more..

dadgum said...

My bad..kid says not 'grape'. It is 'purple drank' (sic).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank

dadgum said...

good grief..
today.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/18/fla-deputy-brought-skittles-iced-tea-to-work/2547947/

Maybe he was just bringing a snack to work..

Make it stop.

john said...

dadgum said:

Maybe he was just bringing a snack to work..
..........................................................................

Or Maybe he was a snack head.lol

Anonymous said...

Poor Trayvon, everybody told lies GZ, ABC and NBC created evidence, the prosecutor filed a charging document thats being questioned, there's online sites saying that a KKK group hacked Trayvons social media sites and put in things portraying Trayvon as a thug. Trayvon is being revictimized!

Jen said...

I had heard this theory about TM & the skittles/tea/cough syrup concoction months ago, and basically rolled my eyes. However, I do know that certain formulations of cough syrup supposedly produce a psycotrophic effect in high enough doses. Not sure what the point of adding the other stuff would be?

Anonymous said...

http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=75112

http://www.examiner.com/article/trayvon-s-skittles-arizona-tea-and-something-called-purple-drank

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

Anonymous said...

http://www.wmctv.com/story/22875957/huntsville-man-on-tn-most-wanted-list?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer143af&utm_medium=facebook

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:37 - seems we touched nerve.

So glad justice was served. I was worried about Florida for a while.

Why should this case get so much public attention? When people start demanding justice for EVERY INNOCENT MURDERED VICTIM this country might get better. This is one case among thousands, why all the focus on this one? Cause it was a spin intended to divide the country. It sells and it makes $. That's the sickening part.
When Mona Yvette Nelson gets the death penalty for killing a 12 yr old boy on xmas eve with a blow torch....oh wait... she's black... she could have been obamas sister.

The govt controlled media got exactly what they wanted when they twisted the facts to create more bleeding heart liberals.

Anonymous said...

Not sure what the point of adding the other stuff would be?

July 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM
JEN
Make yourself useful and type and post GZ's re-enactment transcripts.

Anonymous said...


Anne said...

Also I have a question, how do I get my name in blue.

Anne, Observer, EyeOfTheNewt, King George, etc., with your obvious knowledge of how to change proxy settings , why are you pretending to not know how to "get your name in blue"?

Making Anne blue isn't going to make your other postings any less recognizable, you know?


Lemon said...

Observer at 9:19
You don't know as much as you think you do or you would know it is
NOT 'swat' (sic) at a nat (sic).

It is strain out a gnat.
Strain out a gnat.

Speaking of blind guides, perhaps you should spend less time schoolmarm schooling others for their supposed mental deficiencies and spend more time learning what you think you already know.

sidewalk super said...

Maybe jen is not the only one who can't figure drank out.

why not just wear your hoodie and your pants way below your a.. and cruise on into 7-11 and buy alcohol, cheaper certainly?

Anonymous said...

CNN and "white hispanic"
CNN's usage of the label "white hispanic" to describe Zimmerman has been derided by critics (including Zimmerman's father) as erroneous and "injecting a hostile racial narrative" into news coverage.[
Deceptive audio editing by NBC
Between March 19 and 27, 2012, the NBC Nightly News, NBC's Today show, and NBC's network-owned Miami affiliate WTVJ NBC6[353] ran segments which misleadingly merged parts of Zimmerman's call.
Zimmerman's call to the police dispatcher was misleadingly edited by NBC, shortened such that it appeared that Zimmerman had volunteered Martin's race.
Surveillance video mistake
ABC News obtained a surveillance video of Zimmerman walking unassisted into the Sanford police station after the shooting. An officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but ABC originally said that no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video
Prosecution's account of events
Legal analysts have criticized the prosecution for over-charging Zimmerman, claiming that the probable cause affidavit does not support a charge of second-degree murder. Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz claims that the probable cause affidavit may be perjurious if Special Prosecutor Angela Corey knowingly omitted facts favorable to Zimmerman's self-defense claims.wikipedia

no longer perplexed said...

and angela corey tried to have Dershowitz fired from Harvard thereafter. Looks like she's gunning for a job with the current president and is just his type it would seem.

dadgum said...

jen..it has to do with the 'DM' in the cough syrup. In large quantities the dextromethorphan and promethazine affect the central nervous system. I think the other ingredients are supposed to make it easier to drink this amount..we aren't talking a teaspoon..

We had a great waiter at dinner..and he seemed to enjoy his (well tipping lol) customers. Makes no difference who was what color.

Why do so many people want to make race the most important thing in the world? We are all people with human experiences, joys, and pain. No one holds a patent on it.

Anonymous said...

Back to the Ayla case: If Ayla's blood was found on Justin's floor why of why can't they arrest him? I have never understood this.

Also, am I the only one who feels um, I guess deeply concerned that Trista's father threatened a family member with a knife?

They need to get a criminal profiler in with this case. Obviously they can't solve it, they need a criminal profiler--too many crazies surrounding the case.

dadgum said...

The blood has been a huge issue for me as well.

These cases involving children killed by those who are supposed to care for them..break my heart. The fact so many go unsolved, and are not adjudicated, makes it worse.

Let a jury hear the evidence.

Anonymous said...

http://www.wtsp.com/news/photo-gallery.aspx?storyid=255685

crime scene photos. GZ looks like he's drunk or stoned, his pants are beyond wrinkled like he wears dirty clothing, and no blood on the jacket from shooting. The layout of the condo development requires foot traffic between buildings. His injuries are far from life threatening.

dadgum said...

Anyone would look stunned after being beaten, and having shot another human being.

Injuries show he was attacked (there are no injuries on TM, other than a gunshot). I am not minimizing TMs wounds, but it showed the police and the jury that GZ did not strike TM first, nor did he shoot before he was beaten.

This meets the definition of self defense. There is no requirement to wait until you are fatally wounded to defend yourself. The test is whether a reasonable person would feel their life is in danger.
http://healthyliving.blog.ocregister.com/2011/07/27/can-a-single-punch-kill-you/35949/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/09/delroy-hines-killed-man-one-punch-loses-appeal_n_1502930.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2883893/Teen-killed-man-with-single-blow.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57583107/soccer-referees-death-shows-how-dangerous-head-blows-can-be/

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crime/2013/05/21/prosecutors-charge-man-with-killing-fellow-pool-player-with-single-blow-in-lakewood/

Anonymous said...

Trayvon had a right to walk to the store wearing what ever he wanted to wear and buy what ever he wanted to buy and to walk home through the condo development where he lived. GZ is crazy; he profiled Trayvon, he continued to call him a suspect even after killing Trayvon. In interviews GZ described two behaviors that condo residents who are not suspects exhibit, excercising or walking in a hurry. GZ admits to taking drugs to control mental functions, he says that he has a poor memory and cannot remember the street names in the area he was supposed to be watching. Why is it being reported that the police are going to give this nut case back his gun?
All parents warn your teenagers and young adults to call the police if they are being followed, harassed or unjustly profiled..

Anonymous said...

If I was Trayvon's parents I'd sue the state of Florida for a new trial. The state's prosecutor's actions are being publicly questioned.

After the audio of the call was released, reports by CNN[334] and other news outlets alleged that Zimmerman had said "fucking coons" two minutes and twenty-one seconds (2:21) into the call. Two weeks later on April 4, 2012, CNN claimed that enhanced audio revealed that Zimmerman had said "fucking cold" (alluding to ongoing rain in February).[335] The following day, April 5, 2012, CNN's Martin Savidge reported that forensic audio expert Tom Owen claimed it was "fucking punks."[336] It is said to be "fucking punks" in the affidavit of probable cause, dated April 11, 2012.[188] Other reviewers of the call have offered alternate interpretations of what was said, some labeling it "unintelligible." According to the Associated Press, the alleged racial slur "fed growing outrage over the police department's initial decision not to arrest Zimmerman."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

Is there a definitive version? Is this how the state gathered evidence?

Anonymous said...

If george slid in the grass, did he then have some sort of grass stain on the back of his jacket and/or shirt? he slid forcefully enough his shirt came up.....note was made 'bout TM having grass stain on his knees (supposedly 'proof' he was on top during the 'fight' but also could be proof he got knocked down onto his knees).

Is it at all possible, time line wise, for george to have tried to stop TM and detain him for the police, and because george didn't identify himself TM fought him thinking george was the thug.

During neighborhood watch training is it ever addressed how yelling "help" will usually get you no where? Just like they teach women in self-defense class to scream "FIRE!" instead of "help" or "rape" because people are selfish and will be more likely to respond to someone screaming about a fire because that might just affect them, too. Why, if GZ was yelling, didn't he scream 'help burglar or help neighborhood watch'

Anonymous said...

GZs back of pants and jacket were wet with pieces of grass and stains on them, as were TMs knees, according to testimony by officers. TM never fell to his knees, there were no marks on his skin. No witness testified to anything like it.

GZ was in a panic, he screamed. Maybe the attack and punch to his face took him by surprise, not being a fighter he did not respond well enough to hit back.

People can speculate all day long, inserting different non-facts. Refer to the trial transcripts and the relevant testimony.

Maybe this whole thing was a plot to kill a little black boy child by the evil white and white hispanic residents of the condos. Maybe it was really the KKK, or the CIA, or how about the tea party? Perhaps Al Sharpton planned the whole thing so he can go out with a bang. His ridiculous show has terrible ratings.

Maybe there is no black on black crime, it's all the white people. Laws should be changed so black people are not found guilty of crimes they commit. It isn't fair for them to go to prison, so many are already there. The quota has surely been met.

Forget about responsibility. It is all the fault of rich white people. They are all stalking the children of black parents, waiting for an opportunity to shoot them on the playground and as they walk home from school.

It was white people who dragged blacks to north America 400 years ago, per Shaharizade Ali. Queen Ali forgets that blacks were sold and traded for rum by their rival tribes. Trapped and sold by their own. It is the blacks of Africa who sold their neighbors. President Obama's father was from Kenya. He comes from the selling, trading end. Is he still selling out his fellow black, black hispanics, black asians or white blacks?

Anonymous said...

GZ was in a panic, he screamed....
He's a nut case and because of MSM many see the world through his delusional eyes. Trayvon's parents should ask for a new trial, Trayvons character was put on trial. He was unjustly profiled and stalked through his neighborhood, Trayvon had every right to defend himself. He deserved a truthful trial.

john said...

OT..

Given that Peter is busy i thought i would post this article to keep us up on SA.There are more example on this site.


Analysis of Desiree Washington's Interview Concerning Mike Tyson

The following is the analysis of Barbara Walters' t.v. interview with Desiree Washington, who accused Mike Tyson of raping her. The interview appeared on the ABC News program "20/20" on February 21, 1992, and transcripts can be obtained from ABC News.
The SCAN (Scientific Content Analysis) technique was used to analyze the language used by Desiree Washington in her interview.

Contents:
Who is the subject?
Signals of sensitivity
What happened that night?

http://www.lsiscan.com/desiree_washington_s_interview_on_mike_tyson.htm

john said...

OT..

This is a great example.

Congressman Gary Condit's Interview


The following observations on Connie Chung's interview with Congressman Gary Condit are provided to students of the LSI Course on Scientific Content Analysis (SCAN) technique solely for the purpose of continuing education. These points are meant to enable the student to compare his/her analysis to the way another SCAN analyst looks upon the same statement. This SCAN report is not be used for any other purpose.

http://www.lsiscan.com/id69.htm

sidewalk super said...

Why would dead teenager's birth parents sue further unless it was to fund another attorney into the rabble-rousing stratosphere?

Before the trial they received (with lawyer), a settlement from the condo association which was in excess of one million. Now, in spite of rabble-rousing attempts by the current president, it is clear that racial hatred was not the problem from Zimmerman's side.

As far as the SCAN technique, now when I hear public figures slide their words around between the "uummms" and the "aahhs", I realize truth and honesty take a beating. Srtetching my credulity and should be stretching yours.

Really, Anon said...

Anon 4:50

Surely you jest! Ever heard of a little thing called double jeopardy?

TM's family cannot 'sue for retrial', smh

Anonymous said...

John hates chimps.

Anonymous said...

I thought this was about Ayla and her baby KILLER FATHER. WTF??

Anonymous said...

You're right. It actually was about Ayla. And I "like" the thought that he's been abusing his "alibi". Interesting times ahead IMO.
Châtelaine.

Anonymous said...

Pigs^^^^

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 2:23 PM ; Yeaaah ... I see what you mean. This isn't exactly about Ayla and her baby killer Father - is it? Nope.
Obviously people have other things on their minds. Here is a spin on the Trayvon Martin news that is worth thinking about.
http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-plight-of-young-black-men.html

Stuart Schneiderman is an incredibly intelligent man whose blog helps me stay on top of some of what is happening in society at large. Here is the start of the post that the link will direct you to:

Two days ago I suggested that the national drama about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was obscuring one of America’s most serious problems: the plight of young black men.

Yesterday, while President Obama was out stoking the flames of racial enmity, Michael Gerson wrote a fine column about the problem that everyone is ignoring:


I'll let any of you who are interested go to it and see if you think it is worth directing your attention towards. It's easier to think about the TM/ GZ situation but it might be more worth while to think about the plight of young black men. There'd be less of a racial divide too. ( well ...in my idealist mind there would be but that is yet to be proven)

Anonymous said...

Justice for Trayvon, and put crazy profiling GZ in jail.
sidewalk super said...
Why would dead teenager's birth parents sue further unless it was to fund another attorney into the rabble-rousing stratosphere?

Trayvon's parents lost their son, and hired a private attorney to publicly say smart things to stop violence. Trayvon deserves a truthful trial...

Anonymous said...

This isn't exactly about Ayla and her baby killer Father - is it? Nope.

I'm sorry for posting about Trayvon on Ayla's blog post.

Anonymous said...


http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-plight-of-young-black-men.html

I read on wikipedia that race is discussed mostly on blogs. As Obama observed in his own kids, younger generations have an easier relationship where race means running or competition.

Anonymous said...

Police: Dad of missing Waterville toddler not telling all
 
Glenn Adams, The Associated Press
 
Maine | Monday, January 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm
WATERVILLE, Maine (AP) — Unable to find any evidence missing toddler Ayla Reynolds was abducted, police on Monday pressed the three adults who were home with her on the night she disappeared to provide a full account of what happened.
State and local detectives believe Justin DiPietro, the girl's father, and two other adults know more than they've told investigators so far, said Steve McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety.
The notion that someone slipped into the small house and took Ayla without awakening anyone "doesn't pass the straight-face test," McCausland said.
"We've followed every conceivable piece of evidence that would follow their version of events, and we have found not one piece of evidence that supports an abduction," he told The Associated Press.
Police confirmed Sunday night that Ayla's blood was found in the partially finished basement that DiPietro used as his bedroom. Relatives reported on a family-run website that they were told the blood was "more than a small cut would produce," but police declined to say how much blood was discovered.
DiPietro reported Ayla missing on Dec. 17, telling police he'd put his 20-month-old daughter to bed the night before and she wasn't there the next morning.
On the night Ayla was last seen, DiPietro was in the home with his girlfriend, Courtney Roberts, and they slept with Roberts' child in the basement, McCausland said. DiPietro's sister was with her young child on the main level of the one-story home, and Ayla was in a bedroom by herself, also on the main level, McCausland said Monday. DiPietro's mother was not home that night.
McCausland said detectives weren't singling out any of the three adults, but "we think they know more than they're telling us," he said.
Justin DiPietro declined to comment Monday, brushing past an Associated Press reporter outside his house without addressing questions before going inside and emphatically closing the door. The AP couldn't find phone numbers for his girlfriend or his sister.
Ayla was placed in her father's care while her mother, Trista Reynolds, was in a substance abuse rehabilitation program in Lewiston.
When she disappeared, the blond, blue-eyed toddler was wearing green pajamas with the words "Daddy's Princess" on the front. One of her arms was in a soft cast after being broken in what police said was an accident.
In Portland, Ayla's maternal grandfather, Ronald Reynolds, said he took the day off from work on Monday because he couldn't concentrate after incessant news reports. He said that he tries to stay positive but that negative thoughts sometimes creep into his thinking. Every night, he said, he gazes at Ayla's photo before going to bed.
"I look at her and wonder why, why, why would anyone want to hurt that little girl?" he said, before angrily addressing Ayla's father in Waterville. "He was supposed to protect her. He didn't even do that."

Anonymous said...


In Waterville, residents seemed perplexed by the developments, which came after massive searches by game wardens, police, the FBI and divers. Searchers went so far as to drain some local streams as part of their search.
The family-run website, www.aylareynolds.com, issued an appeal for anyone with information about Ayla to come forward.
"Even in light of this evidence we are more determined than ever to find out what has happened to Ayla and we still cling to the hope that she is alive and will be returned to us," the website said. "We urge anyone that has information about Ayla to come forward now and unburden yourself of the truth."
Ronald Reynolds added a personal appeal, saying the family has been through too much and needs to know what happened.
"Right now I feel so helpless," the former Marine said. "Enough is enough. I'm tired of it. Someone ought to have enough guts to stand up to the plate and say where she is so we can have closure. If for some reason my little girl is not with us, then we need to bring her home."
___
Associated Press writer David Sharp in Portland, Maine, contributed to this report.http://www.sunjournal.com/news/state/2012/01/30/police-no-evidence-ayla-reynolds-was-abducted/1147912

Anonymous said...

I remember the rallies, and the speeches by the president, and people destroying property yelling "Justice for Christopher!!"

The DOJ investigating and putting up a website for evidence of racism. President Obama, Sharpton, and Jackson all spoke out on assisting white teenagers, and the safety of 'our' white sons being stalked by crazy racist black men with guns. Open season on white teenagers.

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490556/roderick-scott-claims-self-defense-in-teen-s-shooting/

john said...

A LOOK BACK AT SOME ANALYSIS.

Statement Analysis of Justin DiPietro.



Ayla's father: 'Where's my daughter?'

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/statements-of-justin-dipietro.html

john said...

OT..

Madeleine McCann police to arrive in Portugal 'within days' to follow up new leads

Officers from Scotland Yard travelling to the scene could interview witnesses and suspects, search properties and even make arrest's.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-arrive-portugal-2067929

Anonymous said...

Your a racist and should Stick to Evil chimp tales.

Anonymous said...

TURD*^^^

john said...

OT..

Body Of Woman Found In Suitcase
A murder inquiry is launched after police find a woman's body inside a suitcase dumped in trees near a north London sports ground.

A woman's body has been discovered inside a suitcase dumped in woodland in north London, police have said.

Detectives have launched a murder investigation after the grisly find near a sports ground at Thornfield Avenue, Hendon, on Sunday afternoon.

The suitcase was hidden among trees and the surrounding area has been cordoned off.

The woman, who has been described as a young adult, has yet to be identified.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said a post-mortem examination would be arranged.

More follows...

http://news.sky.com/story/1118890/body-of-woman-found-in-suitcase

perplexed said...



yet another vacation for our current president? In spite of austerity?

Ain't it grand to flaunt ?

dadgum said...

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/search_in_east_cleveland_ends.html

..'influenced by Sowell..'

john said...

OT..

UPDATE:

If Alanna Gallagher was decomposing, how long was she really missing?

Just how long was Alanna Gallagher missing before her body was located in the middle of a quiet Saginaw, Texas neighborhood? Multiple reports and discussion forums are sharing the detail that this slain child was already in stages of decomposition when her partially nude body was found beneath a tarp about a mile from her home. If she was already going through stages of decomposition, then how could she have possibly been missing for just a mere couple of hours?
It should be noted that the parents of this slain child didn't report her missing until after her body was located. Some have speculated that they might have seen the discovery of her body on the news, waiting until then to report her missing. While officials are being careful not to call the family prime suspects, it's downright suspicious that most of their investigation has focused on the trio -- a woman and her two male lovers.
It's downright outrageous that nobody has addressed the fact that Alanna's body was already starting to degrade when she was found, because this directly indicates that she was missing longer than her parents claimed. This would indicate that her parents are being dishonest. Unless, of course, these reports are false -- which happen in these types of cases from time to time.http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/15029629-if-alanna-gallagher-was-decomposing-how-long-was-she-really-missing

john said...

SNIPPED:

(CNN) -- Children playing in a Texas suburb made a gruesome discovery Monday -- the DECOMPOSING BODY of a child on a residential street.

CNN affiliate KTVT said no children from the area have been reported missing. KTVT said THE BODY WAS DECOMPOSED, making it difficult for officials to determine the child's gender.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/02/justice/texas-child-body-found/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

dadgum said...

john..it has been hot in the south..and humid. I'll need to look up the temp charts for that area in a bit.

A tarp (one of the blue plastic ones, I am guessing) would trap and increase the heat and humidity, and not necessarily keep bugs away if it wasn't secure.

So it is possible. Unexpected based on the time frame, but possible.

john said...

HI dadgum,

They say is was decomposing,yet she was only missing a couple of hours,and they didn't report her missing till the body was found.

They say that it was difficult to determine the childs gender. Thats some rapid decomposition if you ask me.



Anne said...

Thanks for the links john.

Why would LE wait if these reports are true.

It just seems time goes in the favor of the child killers when LE waits to make arrests.

Anonymous said...

TURD;^\\\\^^^^

Anonymous said...

John, when the story first broke about little Alanna, one of the neighbors in the area where her body was discovered, said he/she had noticed the bundled up tarp lying in the street as early as NOON that day but didn't pay it any attention. God only knows when this baby was actually dumped, but it had to be well before her little body was discovered for her to have already been in extensive stages of decomposition, possibly even as early as the night before?

The teenage boy who found and investigated the bundled up tarp came upon it around 7:30 p.m., looked closely and found that it appeared to be a deceased child. He said he went home and told his mother who did not believe him (if you can possibly imagine THAT), UNTIL AROUND 9:00 P.M. WHEN SHE FINALLY DECIDED TO CALL 911 to report what she 'said' her son had found. It was after this that the PO discovered the body of Alanna, about 1&1/2 miles from her home.

Meanwhile one of the "daddies", that is, the mothers' husband (but apparently not the bio-daddy) is said to have been out looking door to door for Alanna at around 7:30ish p.m., saw a PO patrolling his neighborhood around 9:00ish, and this is when he supposedly went over to the patrol officer and told him Alanna was missing. According to this news article, no 911 official report was made by the 3-party parents.

The mother was said to have made the comment about Alanna at the time when one of the daddies was out looking for her; "oh she does this all the time, going to neighbors houses for hours at the time", like she didn't have a care in the world about her child. One of the neighbors also said that Alanna never wanted to go home and would cry when she had to leave.

A day or two later it comes out in more news articles that it is the other man shacking up with them who is the bio-daddy of Alanna and not the legally wedded hubby of the mother who was out looking for Alanna.

At the same time, there were other articles going into detail about the mother placing ads on her face book and wherever else one would place such ads, explicitly seeking additional sex partners, "both male and female", to join them in their bed with her two husbands; even including that she had a delightful, beautiful six year old daughter in kindergarten. If that wasn't an advertisement ALSO offering her child for sex, I'd sure like to know what is!

My first reaction is that this child was violently abused, viciously raped and murdered, possibly by more than one of the parties, likely including some pedophile that had been invited into the home by mommie dearest or one of her 'husbands'. I believe this child had been molested and raped FOR YEARS before they finally killed her.

dadgum said...

That she only mentioned Alanna is especially concerning because there are other kids in the 'home'. She specifies Alanna by sex, age, and description..

Anne said...

Anonymous @ 12:24 do you have the link to the article about the fb information.

I agree with you that there is going to be much more to this case and the parents behavior regarding their daughters care is not a good sign that this little girl had a good life.

I just read another article about a WA state man killing his toddler son with a rock, but he doesn't know why, something in him did it. It's enough to turn stomachs. That man is probably trying to set up a denfense of mental illness.

dadgum said...

https://www.facebook.com/laura.gallagher.165?fref=ts

http://www.miaminewsday.com/national/14461-alanna-gallagher-memorial-to-6-year-old-daughter-of-polyamorous-parents-found-murdered-under-a-piece-of-tarp-is-set-ablaze-by-vandals-along-with-family-car.html

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Anonymous said...

Some of these facts/suppositions are hinky as the tarp was allegedly seen in md afternoon but the medical examiner puts her time of death at 7:33, right about the time the body was discovered. I don't see any news stories about decomposition. Source? The 911 call has the father of the teens unsure but speculating it's a girl, unsure because he isn't disturbing the tarp enough to be sure.

- Buckley

Anonymous said...

I'm so tired of all the BS surrounding the killing of a young black boy. It is very sad I will give you that but why this case when there are hundreds and hundreds of cases just like this.. Only difference?? Why boys being killed by a black. Why isn't that being talked about? Or black on black murders?? Nothing?

Sharpton and JJ like to play fools like a fricking violin.. Open up your eyes people!

Anonymous said...

I meant to say white boy not why boy

Anonymous said...

Is Hobnob around? I would like some input on a statement given after a kidnapping. Is there anyone else out there who would like to help. Thank you

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Anonymous said...

"Why Boys"?????? You stupid TURD!

hobnob is warm bussoms said...

I allso wonder,,,,,,i miss her,,,,,,...

hobnob the penis hurter 2013 said...

And me

dadgum said...

Honestly, even I an tired of the dirt..have a feeling Hobs is as well, though she isn't 'gone'.

Will send her a note. Perhaps she is too excited over the new baby Kate is in labour with, lol

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