Thursday, September 26, 2013

Coming: My Theory on What Happened To Ayla Reynolds

by Peter Hyatt


upcoming...

75 comments:

Masquerade said...

I think we'll all be impatiently waiting.

Maggie said...

Peter, I am eager to read your theory.
Can you please address the telegraphing to Trista by both Phoebe and Justin. Was it a mutual decision: they both agreed to create the idea of this "outside threat" of the "house watcher" or do you believe one of them came up with the idea and gaslighted the other with it (considering Phoebe's confident statements and Justin's more fearful ones this would be mother to son gaslighting)? You described their statements to Trista as telegraphing which I found to be very astute.

SALurkerOne said...

Looking forward to your theory on what happened to Ayla.

Can't it be posted now??? (I'm a little impatient).

Local anon in the Hailey Dunn case said...

Yes, I am unclear on telegraphing and would love some clarification.

Anonymous said...

I hope your idea of what happened matches mine a little. I think he kicked her through the baby gate and down the stairs where she lost lots of blood, probably wouldn't quit crying, so he beat her.

I feel awful just typing this!

Anonymous said...

I park in this garage and walk his route daily. He looks guilty to me. This morning I walked through the courtyard and down the stairs and saw some sort of military training session where they stopped the traffic for two guys to run across the street. They just had camo pants on and t shirts. The Dip last name is common in Maine and I wouldn't be surprised if he was related to someone in LE.

PETER said...

GOD bless you P H X X X

Anonymous said...

I'll jump in now -- My feeling is that the original plan was to sell Ayla. Such a beautiful little girl would bring in a lot of money on the black market. Phoebe works for the state of Maine in some capacity dealing with children. She knows how many people are standing in line to adopt a child. And obviously there was no familial bond with Ayla. I think an unexpected event happened before the sale connection could be made which resulted in her death, whether it be an accident, or an alcohol or drug-related anger incident.

This family is lower than dirt.

Anonymous said...

The process of telegraphing means to send a telegraph. (See Western Union). Peter might have used the word in some other way, but technically that's what it means.

What I'd like to know is what the heck does gaslighting mean? Turning on a gaslight and flicking it on and off? Makes no sense in the manner which it was used. Surely there was a better word that could have been used without creating confusion.

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Anonymous said...



http://www.wgme.com/news/top-stories/stories/wgme_vid_18887.shtml

"Deputy Attorney General Bill stokes says he understands Reynolds' frustration, but they can't prosecute anyone based on pressure from the public. "

We can try! I couldn't find his email here-
DA http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/index.php?topic=AGOffice_CLE&id=107268&v=article

Anonymous said...

1.
manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.

Anonymous said...

Aylas' death was no accident. Nor was it a life insurance scam, not the way it happened on the night it occurred. Justin may have had in mind hoaxing up a kidnapping plot at some later date but you don't violently murder someone in a rage in your home and claim kidnapping then think you are going to file a claim on an insurance policy.

Justin was doped up that night, they all were. Ayla was teething which is painful and causes a baby to whine and cry if soothing measures are not taken to relieve the gums. She also had a broken arm and other bruises. No doubt the poor little girl was hungry, had on a dirty diaper, was in pain, and in misery crying hysterically for some period of time. Justin ignored her as long as he could but finally lost it.

Whoever was in that house HAD to know what this baby was enduring. Anyone who might have tried to stop him would have gotten the hell knocked out of themselves too.

There was blood in some upstairs rooms and on an upstairs couch, and this is likely where her beating started when Justin charged upstairs in a rage to take action to stop her bothering him.

IMO, in his doped up insane rage, Justin hit her repeatedly while still upstairs, and either slammed, threw or kicked her down the stairs and continued punching and beating her and this is where she finally died as this is where the major part of her bleeding and vomiting took place. Just my thoughts...

Anonymous said...

WHAT THE HELL, Hobnob!

Maggie said...

To the person who asked about gaslighting, I believe Phoebe instilled genuine uneasiness/fear in Justin by telling him that the house was being watched, someone was casing the house, someone was watching the family's activities, because someone wanted to take Ayla. Keep in mind, she would have been "gaslighting" Justin since he was a kid (warning him of imaginary dangers, messing with his head in many other ways, etc,) and also keep in mind there was no father present to offer any other view of reality than Phoebe, so she would have been able to be very successful in her manipulations.
Please note that Phoebe also warned Trista that "the house was being watched but she has a gun".

Jazzie said...

I approach AYLA's case simply. Children die at the hands of their fathers/mother's boyfriend all the time. Unfortunately in most child murder cases, there is no mystery or depth. Confusion only happens when the mind refuses to grasp reality.

The reality is: "I learned that not all fathers treasure their daughters, that not all mothers protect, and that to some people, a baby isn’t a precious gift. I’ve learned that cycles are difficult to break, that some people don’t care at all that they hurt other people, and that a lot of people are in so much pain."
http://www.tdcaa.com/node/6097

I believe there is an abundance of evidence that LE has not released. Despite the fact that I think AYLA's case can be easily defined/solved/brought to trial successfully, I have reservations about how quickly justice will be served in the State of Maine in regards to its level of corruption:

http://www.stateintegrity.org/maine

Anonymous said...

Disgusting! This "father" should be hanged.

Maggie said...

The 800 lb elephant in the living room is the grandmother who forecasted a potential kidnapping scenario.
Ignore her, and the case is somewhat clear, an abusive father who went nuts and killed his daughter.
Look at her, and the case is not so simple. The identity of the killer becomes less clear. The potential for a sociopathically calculated scenario becomes likely.

elf said...

Just curious, but, who dumped who when Courtney and Justin split? Anyone know? He also has another child right? Does he have anything to do with that child?

GetThem said...

I don't mean to be rude, but who cares why they broke up. It was only a matter of time. They weren't married, they had no commitment to each other. They were on drugs (prob still use drugs) so neither of them were really a match made in heaven. They had disfunctional previous relationships and couldn't maintain commitments with their past suitors. They are both strong willed and like things their own way... they were bound to disagree eventually. I'll even bet they turn on each other in time given the right circumstances. Also, Justin isn't the father to Courntney's spawn.

Anonymous said...

PS -- but yah, he has another kid with another woman.

Maggie said...

I just posted under the other most recent Justin thread about potential gaslighting done by Phoebe in Ayla's broken arm incident bc it made more sense in that thread if anyone's interested. I have a good instinct with language--it's at least worth considering.

Anonymous said...

Occam's Razor.
IMO.... it's been made clear that Justin was not fond of Ayla and regularly physically abused her. He also did not want to pay child support. One scenario I believe possible would be Phoebe hatching a scheme for a phony kidnapping (while in reality selling the baby). While she could have told Justin to take an insurance policy out against Ayla, we have to remember that UNLESS they also planned to plant evidence suggesting said faux kidnapper had killed Ayla that they would have to wait the appropriate time to have her declared legally dead and to collect on the policy (for most states it's about 7 years). It's possible Justin did not know this and decided on his own to cash in further on the baby-selling-faux-kidnapping, but again, just a possibility.
So thus far in this scenario we have a motive and a phony kidnapping/baby selling. They send out texts foreshadowing their actions (aka: "the kidnapper's" actions). But we're not dealing with master criminals, we're dealing with a bunch of poor, abusive, alcoholic drug addicts. I have the feeling that before their arrangement could be carried out, an alcohol/drug-fueled night led to Ayla's abhorrent death. I think it more likely that there was significant impairment of judgement involved due to the blood found in the house. Ayala's previous injuries were the result of flare of temper, not a blackout rage. She had a broken arm (which, admittedly, i have no idea how easy-difficult it is for bones to break), but she did not have the physical injuries you might see on someone who has been steadily beat for several minutes/an hour.
What happened after they understood the severity of what they'd done seen all the blood while sober, I'm not sure what they did. Following the blood, it seems pretty obvious Ayla was in Justin's car at one point.
I've been following this case since the beginning, and i have to say that until seeing Phoebe's verbal confrontation with Trista, I had not considered she may have played a role in Ayla's murder. The woman and her son that i saw int hat video actually made me question a lot of the evidence. I wondered if it would not have been more likely that Phoebe was the one texting Trista from her son's phone. Although Justin surely has a flippant arrogance of his own...

Anonymous said...

I have good intuition that this will be solved.

Anonymous said...

I think it more likely....UM ...scenario blog two over on the left!!!

Anonymous said...

If Phoebe Dipietro is employed by the state of Maine in some capacity that involves children, the depth of corruption in that state is crystal clear!

S + K Mum said...

I will guess that Pheobe supplied the money for the insurance AGAINST Ayla's life, knowing that the treatment she was given would eventually kill her. An opportunity to make money. Justin's demeanor in the VTs at the court confrontation reminded me of a school child being bullied on the way home. Maybe it was not just Justin who was cruel to Ayla, maybe Pheobe was too. Did she treat Justin cruelly when he was a kid? Could Trista shed light on this - maybe Justin shared this info with her when they were together? I wonder because she seemed more gentle with Justin 'I know you care' compared to how she spoke to Pheobe. I do think Justin killed Ayla but I don't think he was the only one who was bad to her in that house. His mother rules the roost. We have read a lot about wicked mothers, Jerice Hunter springs to mind and Pheobe reminds me of her.

S + K Mum said...

Sorry OT! McCann
(John/ Hobnob)

If you get a chance can you look at the GMcCann / JPaxman interview and give me your opinions on the comment at the end please? Gerry speaks - quote: (2009?)

'...but...eh....Madeleine's fund is funding an ongoing search, we're very, very keen to work with the authorities both here and in Portugal...eh...to try at the very, very least find Madeleine or find who took her'

Very very least? What?! Very Very keen?

Is he looking for his daughter or a car? :/

S + K Mum said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvFkXkVn1I

The link for JPaxman interview. There is a lot of strange statements from GMCann in it. I would love to read an analysis of it :)

Mainah said...

Phoebe was listed as working in an accounting office setting/capacity at the State of Maine. Not with children.

I don't believe she or anyone else was going to sell Ayla. That is as far from Occam's Razor as the kidnapping story they came up with. She's all about power and control. I think she kept her kids from their fathers and saw them as a trophy she "won" from the failed relationships. She was continuing that with Elisha and Justin's kids.

Her reactions are similar to Cindy Anthony, protecting her kid anyway she can. To admit the truth would be like admitting she failed-really, really bad as a parent.

Gaslighting: I'd never heard of the phrase, but it does make sense and I think we all do it to some degree, although usually with good intentions. I imagine a stove with a pilot light (gas) constantly seeping; it takes only a small flame to ignite a fire. Another analogy would be "planting a seed in fertile ground". We (usually) "plant" (positive) messages that inspire our kids to be good citizens, and in turn, our kids do the same.

Anonymous said...

I imagine a stove with a pilot light (gas) constantly seeping; it takes only a small flame to ignite a fire. Another analogy....are you drunk???!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm anon 6:27, I'm sorry for being rude, your posts are speculation, try SA.

Anonymous said...

Her reactions are similar to Cindy Anthony...here you could post two comparative quotes, maybe then your SA would be understandable.

Mainah said...

I agree Jazzie. It's a sad fact of life. Phoebe is the epitome of self indulgence and her offspring's resemble the same.

I think, like John pointed out, Justin is afraid, not of jail, not of the public or the media, but of his mothers disapproval and wrath.

Hello Troll said...

K, G McCann
J, P DiPits
common factors;
daughter missing;
trail of blood leads back to parent/s;
evidence of death;
no evidence of kidnap;
insurance policy v search fund; pays for legal matters

Anonymous said...

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen!...
1. "Mr. Ramsey.
2. Listen carefully!

Genesis seems to have inspired too...I'm surprised that the righteous AS and PH overlooked the Bible...

Anonymous said...

Truth

Anonymous said...

What was going to be posted here about Genesis? An interpretation?

Sus said...

Could someone please share with me where Phoebe telegraphed that someone to take Ayla.

I know that she stated in an interview. AFTER Ayla disappeared that it was creepy to know someone had cased her house and watched her family. (Paraphrased) But again, that was AFTER.

I see that as a typical NPD paranoid brain at work. Since Phoebe knew exactly what happened to Ayla and she had to tell a story, she told what she thought everyone feels...not bad that Ayla was gone...not worried about Ayla's well-being, but "creepy" that someone watched them.

Anonymous said...

I remembered reading that Justin made some statement about "rumors floating around out there". I think he dumped Ayla's body in a river, thus, the reference to floating. I apologize if this has already been brought up or put forward as a theory by someone else.

GetThem said...

Sus said...

Could someone please share with me where Phoebe telegraphed that someone to take Ayla.

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I never heard that Sue. I only read that Justin called or texted Trista to say that someone might kidnap Ayla.

Anonymous said...

UM..... I only read that Justin called or texted...
LINK US UP SCOTTY. DUH!!!

Mainah said...


I'm not sure what is a legit question and what is just hungry trolls...

Sus, I think yours is real, but I can't help much.

I recall Trista and her sister (half sister?) on Nancy Grace in the very beginning say that Justin sent a text to Trista saying he worried someone would take Ayla. But the sister got some things wrong (and so did Nancy Grace) and was quickly removed as spokesperson.

I've not heard that Phoebe telegraphed of a kidnapping, only that Justin pre-worried that someone may take Ayla (and now add) that he said he thought it would be Trista. Again, the only time I heard this was from the (confused, hyper) half sister of Trista.

I have heard that Phoebe told Trista long before Ayla lived in the house, that she had a gun for protection and Trista perceived it as a threating statement.

Commenters have mixed the two stories together to compound it, I think by mistake, mostly.

LE must have the correct info from the cell records.


Thanks for attempting to keep everyone honest here. It's bad enough without exaggerating the details for sensationalism. That just perverts justice and exploits the victims.

It's one thing to have theories and opinions, labeled as such. But I've seen some examples of people taking the body of a story and adding arms and legs to it until it walks around on it's own.

Sus, you are frequently the one who calls it out. Thank you. I for one appreciate it. Most of us want the truth not some hyped up version of it.

Anonymous said...

but I can't help much. ...it's ok, you're really good at typing a lot of correct nothing. Phil

Sus said...

Get them,
I'm agreeing with you. Others have said on this board that Phoebe telegraphed intentions. I only knew of Justin's ominous texts, also.

I'm not quite sure what to make of Justin's texts. I see a few possibilities:

1. Ayla was already deceased. I discount this because of the blood found in the home. This would have given the family plenty of time to clean up, which they did not do.

2. Justin was toying with Trista's mind. Simply to worry her and abuse her. From Trista's words, it is obvious Justin manipulated her from the time they met.

3. Justin was accusing Trista and/ or her family of plotting to steal Ayla. It's called projection. He took Ayla as if she were a possession and he thought Trista would do the same to him.

4. Ayla was so abused Justin couldn't have Trista speak or see her. His mind was actively seeking a way to get rid of "the evidence " the evidence being poor sweet Ayla. Sadly I think this is what he meant. He attacked Ayla more and more, the abuse escalated, because Ayla represented his failure as a father. It played on his mind and he leaked to Trista that Ayla would be gone. He wouldn't dream of giving her back to Trista. That would be a won for Trista and a loss for him.

Mainah said...


OT: Hobs, I think you need a hug: {hobs}

Trigger said...

To Anon 8:46,

Your analogy of what happened the night of Ayla's disappearance is sad to think about. Who could treat a little baby with such violent force?

I agree that only an irritated, impatient, neglectful, doper father would loose his temper and 'accidentally" kill his toddler in a violent manner.

I agree that Ayla suffered more than we will ever know at the hands of Justin and his women.

Justin had no business taking on the care and responsibility of a toddler when he had a cash drug business in the works to manage and control.

I agree that Phoebe is move involved in this crime than was first perceived. She is deceitful, manipulative., and guarded.

Picked a name said...

The term "gaslighting" refers to an old movie - it's a goodie! - wherein Charles Boyer slowly convinces Ingrid Bergman that she's going crazy by making small changes (e.g. adjusting the gas lights in the house). In this context, I think posters meant it to say that they thought Phoebe was feeding ideas and "evidence" to Justin to make him think or feel a certain way.

rob said...

I feel like this family is all about the money, don't have any money, and don't want to work to get money. Ayla was not loved by this family, just a drain on what little assets they did have. So they tried to work out a plan to turn her into a money maker for them. Let her die, get the insurance money. She was surly abused, the whole time the family had her. I'm sure it escaluated, as such things usually do. Caring for a child that you do not like, and want to be rid of, probably was not fun for them, they may have all had a hand in the abuse at different levels. I thought I read one time early on, the brother of Justin (I forget his name) made the statement to someone "time to go home and kick the baby"
It may have been a big joke to them. Obviously, no one is the family has the morals to step up, and tell what happened. It's all about them, and they still want that ins money.

Sus said...

Thank you, Mainah. I kept swing people say that Phoebe telegraphed like Justin did, but couldn't find it. I went back over many articles last night.

It did bring out to me that Phoebe saw Ayla as her baby...in the beginning. And she was there with her DCS friend to "help" Justin get Ayla.

I think Phoebe wanted Ayla...more than likely because Elisha had a baby and was the center of attention.

I think Justin was simply thinking about selling oxys and where to launder money. He could throw off suspicion by buying it from his bff and liking like he is becoming a responsible father to a baby he never bothered to acknowledge before. Then his pal talked him into buying the policy on Ayla. That's really a good place to stick extra cash as it looks like he was saving for his daughter.

Of course, Justin never ended up selling all those oxys. We know Courtney's sister was arrested with them on her. There was no way she planned to self those all herself. I thought she would turn for reduced federal time. There must be someone pretty powerful and scary above her and Justin in the drug running line.

Sus said...

Sorry about all my typos! I strongly dislike autocorrect and typing on a little phone. :)

Trigger said...

Sus said

2. Justin was toying with Trista's mind Simply to worry her and abuse her. From Trista's words, it is obvious Justin manipulated her from the time they met.

This fits.

He learned this behavior because it was "normal" in the home he grew up in.



Maggie said...

Phoebe told Trista after Ayla was living there that the house was being watched but she has a gun.
In her interview after Ayla's "disappearance", Phoebe stuck with this theme saying "it's a very creepy feeling to know that someone's been casing the house, that someone's been watching the family's activities". She said this to explain to the interviewer that the kidnapper wasn't "just some person who wandered in off the streets" but rather someone who had been "watching" the house and the family.

Maggie said...

You can read about Phoebe telling Trista "the house is being watched but she has a gun" under weekly poll question # 8 What is Phoebe DiPietro's Involvement on the unitedforayla blog. Google brought me there--I have not read this blog.

Sus said...

Maggie, I cannot find any article or quote where Phoebe said before Ayla disappeared that someone was watching the house . Can you direct me to that?

She said in an interview after Ayla went missing that it was "creepy" to think someone watched her house and family.

Peter Hyatt said...

Phoebe's language that someone was watching "your" house; not her house.

This is an important distinction because stalking, looking in windows, climbing in, and taking a child is very personal.

She uses the 2nd person to avoid lying.

Peter

Anonymous said...

So is traveling to another state to stalk me out of my job

Anonymous said...

Justify traveling to another state because you were sooooo dumb you couldn't figure out the Ramsey note and wanted to personally meet me. Of course you didn't identify your FAT self!!!

Masquerade said...

Maybe Phoebe suffers from paranoia. Maybe she really did think, originally, that someone (Trista) was watching her house. When she told Trista that someone was watching her house, and that she had/has a gun, maybe it was meant to intimidate Trista.

That's really getting "way out there", but in reality, I can't totally dismiss mental illness (whether from natural or potential drug induced causes) from the DiPietro family, and the drug induced causes don't even have to be caused from doing the drugs, it can be from selling them.

Sus said...

Great point! Thank you. And I think it shows she is saying what she thinks others would feel. Paranoia is a natural state for Phoebe.

Maggie said...

Peter, Yes she did say this "ir is a creepy feeling when someone is watching YOUR house" after Ayla's "disappearance".
She did, however, tell Trista before the disappearance that someone was "watching the house but she has a gun".
I absolutely agree that she was lying and noone was "watching" the house.
My point is that she telegraphed this "fabricated" danger to Trista before the disappearance and then stuck with that concept immediately following the disappearance.
I had read about this when the case first happened and am now seeing it on the united for ayla page.
Let me try to provide link.

Maggie said...

united4ayla.com/weekly-poll-question-8-what-is-phoebe-dipietros-involvement/

Here is the link.

I googled "Phoebe DiPietro said the house is being watched" and this also brings up the link.

Maggie said...

What would be interesting bc Peter has said that when someone is repeating a lie (but they themselves honestly are not aware they are repeating false information) they will not show signs of lying.

Maybe Justin's text message to Trista about him being fearful someone might take Ayla could be analyzed to see it has red flags for lying or is he repeating a lie from phoebe? Just a thought.

Maggie said...

This is from United for Ayla blog regarding the "fear of abduction" texts sent to Trista by Justin:

Trista – Mar 20, 2012 06:26 PM
Hey Marie R. Justin use to say since he took Ayla from me the he was scared and feared that someone was going to go and take Ayla from him. The very last time he said that to me was anywhere’s between December 9th-12th. I am sorry that I can not give the right date because all of our texting at the time was done with my sister’s phone. To be specific though with the last text about it he said ” I shouldn’t have to be scared or live in fear in my own home thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla“. I have always asked myself why he would say that to me and till this day I still ask myself that question.”

Answers For Ayla April 27, 2012 2:50 PM

Emerald; The “abduction fear texts” started about a month after Justin had Ayla and ended the day before Ayla went missing.

Sus said...

Justin's text "I shouldn't have to be scared or live in fear in my own home thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla."

"I shouldn't have to..."
Justin asserts his entitlement and control telling Trista what he should have. BUT it is in the negative, meaning even though he feels he should have something, he does not. What does he not have?

"...to be scared or live in fear..."
Justin feels entitled to never fear, never be scared. This goes along with what we know about Justin...he expects others to take care of him, thus not cause him fear. (Or probably any other negative emotions)

"...in my own home..."
This is important. Justin feels fear in his home. He specifically states where his fear arises and that he should not have it. And what home is he talking about? Portland or Waterville?

"...thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla."
thinking means it is on his mind...an obsession. He earlier said he shouldn't have to fear it, but he now says he thinks it.
someone is specific to one person and he is speaking to Trista. He is telling her he has Ayla now and she has no right to her.
Can come is an interesting choice of words. This someone is capable of taking Ayla. With the choice of "can" Justin says he needs to take away that capability.
at anytime says this someone has the right to Ayla, but remember Justin feels it is undue fear for him to have that person take her. Showing Ayla is a possession to him.
and take Ayla is the crux of the matter for Justin. He doesn't want "someone" taking his possession...and he finds it unfair to scare him about it.

I think with this text Justin said "I got Ayla. I won. You can't have her. Now quit scaring me about it. I'm too entitled for that shit."

If you look at Derek Tudela's facebook comments right after Ayla disappeared, they match Justin's statement. DT said how Trista was a one night stand, homeless, and she should never be allowed near Ayla. According to DT Ayla was right where she belonged with the great father who saved her from a worthless mother.

It was a smear campaign from Justin and his bff.

Anonymous said...

Maggie IMO Phoebe was implying that she (Phoebe) was having the house watched. Not that she feared someone was watching the house.

"The last time I visited Ayla was at the DiPietro's house and Phoebe, for whatever reason, told me that she has a gun in her house and people keeping constant watch of their home. I thought it was strange and don't know why she would even tell me such a thing.
http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2012/06/mother-of-ayla-reynolds-speaks-to.html

Local anon in the Hailey Dunn gas said...

Thank you! Now the term makes sense

Masquerade said...

That does make it sound like she had people watching the house for her. Weird. I wonder if Phoebe was in on the drug dealing, with the kids.

Maggie said...

I really appreciate the analysis and input.
What I am seeing is that Phoebe's words to Tristan about the house is being watched by PEOPLE ( plural) and she has a gun ccould be interpreted as a veiled threat towards Trista (although Trista said she did not know why Phoebe would say such a thing).
According to Trista, Justin, repeatedly, over the course of a month expressed in texts (1) he was scared (2) he was afraid someone was going to take Ayla. Trista has said she does not know why Justin was saying this.
(I will analyze statement Trista provided).
My feeling is that Phoebe's statement to Trista reveals that Phoebe MAY have been using this terror tactic with others besides Trista (possibly Justin)--meaning the idea that the house was under threat and needed to be watched over and needed gun for protection.
I feel it CANNOT BE IGNORED that Phoebe was (1) fabricated outside dangers (2) arming herself against them (purportedly) (3) has a son who was, as you pointed out, was "obssessed" with an outside threat.

Maggie said...

Here's my attempt at analyzing Justin's text to Trista


Justin's text "I shouldn't have to be scared or live in fear in my own home thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla."

"I" (first person)

"shouldn't have to be scared"

Justin implies by using the word "should": (negated) that someone is forcing him to be scared
"have to": reinforces this, that someone is forcing or imposing fear onto Justin
"be scared": This is a general feeling state--at this point he is not saying where, when or whom is causing the fear, only that he, Justin is feeling scared.

This is the 2nd part of the statement separated by the word "or"

"or live in fear in my own home thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla."

"or live in fear in my own home"

This is different now than just the general feeling state of being scared. Justin is introducing a separate grievance by saying "or"

"or live in fear in my own home"

Justin's second grievance is that he "lives in fear in his own home"
Now justin is saying he does not like this other fear which is much more specific. He "lives in fear" which means that ALL THE TIME" he is afraid IN HIS OWN HOME makes it very specific also: He is afraid all the time in his own home.

Justin has so far told us
1) he is generally afraid
2) he is afraid ALL THE TIME
3) he has told us WHERE he is afraid ALL THE TIME--IN HIS OWN HOME

"thinking someone can come at anytime and take Ayla."

"thinking"--he is explaining his fear it is someone he is thinking about (Sus used the term "obssessing")

"someone can come in at anytime"

"someone"--this is vague
"at anytime"--this lets us now it is not just during the day, but also the night, at any hour of the day and night "someone can enter the home

"and take Ayla"

1) 1st someone will enter the home
2) it could happen at anytime (day or night)
3) next the person will "take" (steal/abduct) Ayla

My opinion, and it is going to be controversial here, is that this text to Trista is honest, it is not a lie, it is expressing an obssessive fear that "someone" will enter the home at any given time, and take Ayla.

*There is a possibility, in fact, a probability, that Phoebe was creating and stoking these fears.*

Phoebe was creating a state of obsessive paranoia in Justin. Why????

Phoebe has said that she feels violated and that someone entered her home and took Ayla WHILE SHE WAS SLEEPING.

Is there a possibility Phoebe took her in the middle of the night, the night she was on her "date"?

elf said...

Its been my experience that when someone starts out a comment with 'I don't mean to be rude...' they usually do mean to be rude. Along that line, I don't care what your opinion of what their relationship was. I was asking about a fact. If Courtney left him, she may be the first to break. And I also knew that Courtney's baby isn't his. I was enquiring if there was a known relationship betweeen Justin and the other child, aylas brother or sister.

won't tell you this time said...

it has been bothering me for quite some time ,
so,
at the risk of being labelled,
does anyone else look at those CNN pictures(s) of phoebe lying about a death in her unfinished basement being used as a "home" by her drug dealing youngest son,
she's shyly smiling even,
so does anyone look at phoebe and immediately say "oh, I'll bet she was out on a DATE"?
Yegads, people!

Anonymous said...

Do you mean as in who would go out on a date with Phoebe? Maybe she was a prostitute. Don't the people involved in that line of work refer to paying for sex as a date? Or maybe I've just seen too much Pretty Woman.

Sus said...

To even hint of a similarity between Julia Roberts and Phoebe Dipietro is a bit much for me to handle this morning. I doubt any of her "dates" are the Richard Gere type, either.

Anonymous said...

Stick to the topic soft shite.@"Sus".