Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Phoebe DiPietro's Defense

Protected by Women
Phoebe DiPietro's only defense of her family: 'The mother did it while she was in rehab.'

Statement Analysis looked at Phoebe DiPietro's statement in which she was either unwilling or unable to say:

"My family did not cause Ayla's disappearance" and "the three told the truth."

Since DiPietro did not say it, we are not going to say it for her.

41 comments:

Mainah said...

Mom was not in rehab when Ayla "disappeared". She had been out for about month. Justin took Ayla from family when mom was in rehab.

Trista was confirmed to be in Portland, leaving there in the early morning hours to go visit her baby (Ray's) dad in jail.

Understandable Peter, it's hard to keep track there are so many :(

I was thinking/wondering about Lyric and Elizabeth today. What ever became of that case. I know dad went to jail for drugs (meth?) but nothing about the girls autopsies and it's been quite some time.

Mainah said...


Did you see the Peach Coward running from the women yet?

And Courtney would not cooperate with the prosecution against her "ex" Justin so they dropped the DV assault charge. That speaks to her involvement and culpability, IMO.

Anonymous said...

When and where did Phoebe say this? I missed it...

Maggie said...

A cop witnessed the assault--that's all they needed. It's the state vs him in DV assault.
Trista needs a private investigator. A good one. If Maine state police/judiciary is not corrupt then they are mental invalids. They don't want to upset Justin/Phoebe for some reason. This is clear. She needs a team of private investigators.

Anonymous said...

Here's kind of a "mind-twister"--If Justin begged them to prosecute him, would they say no?

Mainah said...

Speaking of PI's, several months ago one of Justin's friends on the liars blog (I think her name was Katie, said Justin hired a private investigator. Can we find out who that is? Can you imagine his/her report?

Anonymous said...

Change the"if ... Didnt say it...we wont say it fo.."SHITE!!! U STUPID TURD!

maggie TURDFACE MAGGIE TURDWORDS said...

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Anonymous said...

Maggie, WHEREVER did you get the idea that Trista could afford an investigator, much less a team of investigators. Trista is a welfare mom. Or did you forget?

Anonymous said...

Trista could set up a fund. Even a crappy PI would be better than what the state of Maine has done for her.

Maggie said...

Mainah--Yes I would love to see Justin's PI's report
Tuesday's report: Justina clung onto his mother's skirt today.
Wed report; Same
Thursday: Justina is actually wearing his mother's skirt today
Friday; The state of Maine sentenced Justina to a day at the spa for repeated assault charges
Saturday: The state throws in a massage package

Anonymous said...

Mr Troll Nurse Ratched has your psych pills ready for you to treat your turditis/schizophrenia.

elf said...

"The mother did it while she was in rehab."
The mother- how do we know who pheobe is talking about? Technically there are 4 mothers involved in this case: trista, Elisha, Courtney, and pheobe. Without a proper social introduction we can't say, can we?
did it- Did what? What is IT?
while she was in rehab- how pheobe? How would a person in rehab be able to pull this off?
That last part wasn't analysis. I'm not very good at it yet.

Jazzie said...

Phoebe DiPietro:
"I believe that the Focus should remain on finding Ayla... Her eyes are beautiful and distinctive which will be a good focal point in looking for her."
http://media.pressherald.com/documents/AylaSeptember2013.pdf

Trista Reynolds:
“He looks like her. She has his blue eyes. I miss those eyes,” she said. “Seeing Justin, it was like Ayla was right there.”
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/09/25/news/portland/relatives-of-ayla-reynolds-face-off-at-portland-court/

elf said...

And despite all the evidence to the contrary, trista is still talking about ayla in the present tense. Right there. That tells us that trista is innocent.

elf said...

Today would have been a perfect opportunity for Justin to issue a reliable denial. If I was innocent I wouldn't have ran. I would have fought back.
When I was a teenager I had a police officer tell me that guilty people always run, innocent people take a stand.

Anonymous said...

This breaks my heart to say, but I believe the whole country is losing respect for Maine. If Justin actually got convicted for murdering Ayla, would they let him go free?

So sad.

And why did the state of Maine show Trista that "blood slideshow" just so they could tell her "OK now that you have been totally horrified we want you to at least rest assured we will do nothing about it and even if Justina is brought up on assault charges we'll make sure he skips away from the courthouse free as a bird! Our main concern in the state of Maine is that Justin does not get any stress wrinkles. What a joke!
Where is justice!
Trista is caught in a nightmare! And the whole country wants justice for Ayla!!!!! Who is standing up for her except Trista and the people in blogworld?! Where is the state of Maine?! What are they doing? Why would they even show Trista that "blood slideshow" if they weren't going to do anything about it? Can't they at least arrest Justin for child endangerment/neglect if "someone" (yes we know they can't prove "exactly who") within the Violette Ave home was abusing her to cause blood spills? Yes, they can! They legally can arrest him for child endangerment/neglect for blood spills from Ayla that were not caused by an accident, and it would NOT jeopardize a future murder case!!

I'm starting to see where Stephen King must have gotten inspiration for his books from the nightmare that is Maine!!!

SHAME ON YOU MAINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jazzie said...

ANON @ 10:18
says: "They legally can arrest him for child endangerment/neglect for blood spills from Ayla that were not caused by an accident, and it would NOT jeopardize a future murder case!!"

I agree. They can later upgrade the charges. It's done. Although it helps to have the body:

Suspicious Death of Toddler Ruled a Homicide
A 19-year-old man charged in connection with the baby's death is being held on a $1 million bond.

"He was charged with first-degree assault and risk of injury to a minor, but police said they are working to upgrade the charges in light of the medical examiner's ruling."

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Police-Investigate-Death-of-Child-in-Hartford-223499981.html

Jazzie said...

ANON @ 10:18
Totally agree on the Stephen King aspect.

Anonymous said...

Jazzie--I agree totally and thanks for citing the case.

This is beyond human imagining.

Why wouldn't they support their own evidence by backing it up with an arrest? Their point that this blood spill/blood spill pattern could not have been caused by an accident, absolutely, and they have the forensic experts to back it up--they need to back this claim up with an arrest. Otherwise, they are actually jeopardizing any usefulness of their evidence. When and if the case ever gets tried in court as a murder case (and that completely depends on whether Justin's relaxing day at the spa leads to a spontaneous confession) any defending attorney worth his/her salt is going to say "Well, no, if this blood spill evidence indicated even abuse, nevermind murder, why wasn't my client arrested and charged with child endangerment/neglect? Why? I'll tell you why, because this evidence was not conclusive enough, did not definitively point to anything other than ordinary scrapes and cuts, etc. etc. My client is innocent!"
You get the picture.
Ayla's blood is all around the house, in Justin's shoes for Christ's sake! They have enough. Their lack of arrest will cause this evidence to be void in court, and, no confession will come outside of the jail setting.
Lady justice weeps.

elf said...

Hey in Stephen Kings defense- there's usually at least one town sheriff that has a clue lol too bad he couldn't write one in on this nightmare...

Anonymous said...

Elf--Very good point! Perhaps "The Shawshank Redemption" would come closest to this kind of surreal world of warped justice.

Anonymous said...

Revised Video of Court INTERACTIONS

Trista and Phoebe
Trista and Justin

Phoebe verbal
Justin Coward

Where is Ayla

http://bangordailynews.com/2013/09/25/news/portland/relatives-of-ayla-reynolds-face-off-at-portland-court/

Jazzie said...

ANON @10:55 says:
"I'll tell you why, because this evidence was not conclusive enough, did not definitively point to anything other than ordinary scrapes and cuts, etc."
-------
I believe LE has an abundance of evidence they have not released. They stated:

March 11, 2012:
"McCausland said Monday the decision by investigators to release the information was responsible.

"We felt it was important that the public understand some specifics of the investigation. We felt it was important that the public understand the magnitude of this investigation and that some of the blood was Ayla’s,” he said.

http://www.kjonline.com/news/Friends-father-ask-others-to-believe-Ayla-remains-alive.html?pagenum=full

Sometimes I think LE can not advance a case because of DA/Prosecutors (and in ME the AG) factor. Couple that with egos, politics, corruption, etc. - Unfortunately Justice can get derailed.

Anonymous said...

Peter, would you consider analizing Rudy's skype conversation following Meredith Kerchers murder?? I think he's being more honest than the courts gave him credit for, I think he really was in the bathroom while rafaele rang doorbell and murdered kercher with amanda either by his side or just outside. it's such a missing link in all of this., would love to get your take on Rudy...


Rudy Guede – Giacomo Benedetti Skype conversation
Translated by www.perugiamurderfile.org

Anonymous said...

Page 2:
R. In the newspaper they’re writing that I was drunk and slept on the toilet. That’s crap. In that house we were smoking joints, we smoked and so did those girls, everyone did. After that I said to the guys, who are men of their word, "Listen, guys, I'm tired, I can't walk now, can I sleep over here?" So I slept on their sofa. I was only ever at their place twice.
After that, after that I met Amanda, but I didn’t talk to her any more, I just saw her one other time, at that pub, at Lumamba’s pub, whatever his name is.
G. Right, Lumumba.
R. just one other time, and we talked in that pub, but after that I didn’t see her any more, I mean I'd see her often in the street, but it was nothing more than a “hello”.
Page 3:
R. The girl who was killed, I met her the previous evening, we talked.... well, I got to know her during the rugby match.
G. Wait ‐ the girl you’re talking about, the one you met, who was that? This Meredith? R. Yes, Meredith. I’m talking about her now.
G. You met her? [talking over each other]
R. Yes. I don’t mean that we hung out together. Up to then, we just saw each other a couple of times, mainly that evening where there was the rugby match between England and South Africa, I was together with a couple of friends at this place, now I can’t remember the name...
G. Wait, I don’t get it, you saw the match with her? I don’t understand. R. I'm telling you how I met her.
G. Oh, okay.
R. I met her in that place...
G. is it a pub? What is it?
R. That Irish pub in the center near the Kurdish place, what’s it called? G. Oh, the Shamrock?
R. The Shamrock. That’s where they were showing the England‐South Africa match, and I was there with a couple of friends, and she was there too.
G. I see [sì].
R. She was there too and we teased each other.
G. I see [sì].
R. So then...
G. So, you were trying to...
R. No, because I already knew her anyway, it isn't that... R. Oh, right, right.

Anonymous said...

Page 4:
R. On Halloween, I went out with the Spanish girls [ragazzi], these two girls who live upstairs from me, there are two Spanish girls who live upstairs from me, and on Halloween I spent some time with them. Then we went over to some friends of theirs, together, friends of these girls, and then we went to the house of some other Spanish kids, and that’s where I really talked with...
G. This was on Halloween? R. With Meredith.
G. Right.
R. During that party.
G. OK.
R. She was disguised as a vampire. You probably saw the pictures.
G. Yep. In the newspapers.
R. Well, the next day, we had an appointment to see each other again. G. I see.
R. I don’t know if you get me. The next day...
G. Yes.
R. Umm, she was game [c’è stata] and so was I. So, we see each other...
Page 5:
R. So we went in, and I think it was about eight‐thirty, or eight‐twenty, they're saying that she told her friends she was tired and wanted to go home. But in fact no, we were supposed to see each other, we had made an appointment the evening before during the Halloween party, at the Spanish kids' house, and I can also say, well I don't know the street but I can say where it was.
G. I understand.
R. If I were in Perugia I could say where that house is, and anyway those kids can confirm that I was at that party.
G. Okay.
R. And then, we saw each other at Meredith's house and we started talking...we started talking, and I, well, I tried, I mean I made a pass at her and she was willing [ci stava]. But in the end we didn't do anything because...she didn't have any condoms and neither did I.
G. Like...in the newspapers it says that...well, you must have done something with her if...
R. Yes but in fact, I'm telling you we did just ...oral stuff. Nothing, no penetration, because I didn't have a condom, we didn't do anything. And so it's all crap according to me that they said they found my...sperm...male sperm. Then I, that... it's not mine because we didn't do anything.
Page 6:
R. When we got there, I don't know what happened, but she said "damn".
G. something about money you were telling me about?
R. “The money is gone! The money is gone!”... and she added [detto] “when Amanda comes back, I have to talk to her”. Because they had quarrelled in the evening, because of problems that...Amanda smokes, she smokes...a lot and they quarrelled.
G. So you think that, like, she took her money for... R. no, wait, let me get there, after...
G. sorry.
R. Let me get you to understand better, well, it's been said...well, okay, so something that hasn't come out yet, it hasn't come out that...Amanda hasn't talked about umm...money, Raffaele hasn't talked about the money. So only I know this, that she told me her money was missing, that was hidden in the drawer where she kept her underwear.
G. I see.
R. She told me this. And after that I went to the bathroom. I really had to go take a shit. And I heard the doorbell. For me, that must have been one of the girls who lived with her. So, I was calmly in the bathroom, like that. And at a certain point...
G. So you thought it was someone from upstairs?
R. Yes, no, I thought that, well clearly someone rang the doorbell, they rang and she went and opened it.
G. Okay
R. so for me it was...it could have been anyone for me, see?
G. Sure, sure.
R. It could have been Amanda, it could have been... anyone.
G. So you were calmly taking a shit, I get it.
R. I was in the bathroom, so for me, well, I didn't worry about it, because anyway in the end we were going to be seeing each other and...

Anonymous said...

Page 7:
R. I was in the bathroom, in the bathroom maybe five minutes. So, I really had to take this shit, but then I heard a scream, but let me tell you, a really loud scream, so loud that according to me, if anyone was passing by, nearby, they would have heard this scream, because she screamed so loud...and then, then, I got a bit worried and I got out of the bathroom right away, without even putting my pants back on, they were practically falling down, I was wearing just my underwear and my pants were falling around my...
G. But if I understand, I mean like where was this...I mean, what time do you think this happened, I don't know...
R. Around nine, nine twenty or so, because in the meantime we had gotten to talking and all.
G. I see.
R. I think nine‐twenty, nine‐thirty, around then, and then, when I heard the scream, let me tell you she screamed so loud that you could hear it even in the street, Giacomo, she screamed really loud. When I came out, it was in semi‐darkness, I came out and I saw him.
G. But who?
R. His back was turned, and then I said “what the hell is going on?”. G. Masked? What the hell was this guy like?
R. Well, firstly this person wasn't bigger than me, I mean taller, physically, in height, he wasn't taller than me. His back was turned, and I saw there...Meredith...I saw Meredith who was bleeding already, she had a slash in her throat, and this guy took a knife and I've got wounds on my hands because I grabbed his hand, he tried to stab me and I still have the wounds on my hands, the signs, that are healing now, but I still have them on my hand...

Anonymous said...


Page 8:
R. I tried to help her, Giacomo, it's not that...my blood, no, I don't know if there is any or not, because I didn't bleed, I didn't actually bleed, my wounds that I had, the guy just wounded me lightly, it didn't bleed, now I can't tell you...
G. OK, but anyway, I mean, the point is that in my opinion you should [missing word] them, maybe if you have to find some...
R. I tried to help her, and if my prints are in the house, it's obvious because I touched everything, Giacomo.
G. Sure, I believe it if you were there, but listen, this guy, you can't manage to say anything about what the hell he was like? That could be important.
Page 9:
R. Yes but that guy, well, it was almost dark, I didn't see his face, but I say he was Italian because he, we...we insulted each other. I insulted him. And he insulted me and he didn't have a foreign accent, and he wasn't any taller than me, I don't know how tall this Stefano or whoever is, but he certainly wasn't taller than me.
G. So was he, like, blond? What the hell was he like, didn't you manage to see anything?
R. I can't tell you, I think...brown‐haired, more brown, not blond because, well you can really see when someone is blond...
G. All right, so not exactly blond, hell do I know, say chestnut?
R. Yes, brown, like brown between...between blond and brown. G. It's called chestnut.
R. But not light.
G. It's called chestnut, but...
R. In the room it was darkened, it was intimate, it was darkened. G. I get it.
R. And since my pants were falling down, because I hurried out of the bathroom, I hurried out of the bathroom, I fell on the ground, and then the guy ran away, he escaped, he went out the door, see? And then I got up, and I tried to help, to staunch the wounds, I took a towel in the bathroom, I tried to...to...
G. Staunch the wound?
R. ...to put it into the wound, see, I was trying, and she was clinging to me hard, very hard. So first of all, I know...it's not that I ran away, but I was scared, I don't know why I didn't call the ambulance, it's because...I was alone there right then, alone, and I was completely covered [zuppo] in blood, and I was scared that they would blame only me.
Page 10:
R. Listen to this [Guede is reading from a newspaper], “Meredith's clothes were put in the washing machine. When the police came to the house it was still full, the girl's clothes were wet”, so if that really did happen, Amanda or Raffaele did it. Do you understand? That must have been them, if it really happened.
G. Why would they have done that?
R. Because when I left she was dressed, see? G. Meredith? The girl who died?
R. But Meredith was dressed.
G. So they killed her dressed?
R. Yes, but it says here that they were washed in the washing machine, but it's not true, she was dressed, she had a pair of jeans on and a white shirt and a woolen thing. She was dressed.
G. All right, and that...
R. This means that they washed them, Giacomo. I left [the house], and that guy [quello] must have left that house and...
G. But what the hell did Amanda go wash the clothes for?
R. How the hell do I know?
G. But if she's not involved, sorry ‐ I'm reasoning like you would, if I were...
R. Yes but then, after, though, from what I've read, someone else came, because when I left, the window wasn't broken, Giacomo, the window of the house, that window out front, it wasn't broken.
G. And you think it's important about the window and the money that wasn't there anymore? R. Sure, it means someone broke it, and it wasn't me.

Anonymous said...

thats the end. hope so thanks!!!

lulu said...

The video was beyond disturbing. I swear it looked like Justin was scared.... maybe just wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

"and I believe she is alive, tell us what you did to her" Phoebe told to Trista

Kind of cocky to say, isn't it?
Who had all those blood of Ayla's in her home? Whose kids were told to be witholding information about her disappearance?

It is time for MSP to name their person of interests.

Masquerade said...

Whoa, did Phoebe really say that? That's crazy. How could Trista have "done it" while in rehab? Besides the fact, she wasn't in rehab at the time Ayla "disappeared". If she said that, is she having trouble keeping her story straight? At some point the web of lies will falter.

Speaking of being protected by women, I mentioned this on United for Ayla, Justin physically ran away from Trista and the reporters, and left his mommy there to deal with it. He obviously didn't give her a 2nd thought. I don't think he ever gives anyone a 2nd thought, probably not even a 1st thought, besides himself.

Another thing, if Justin harmed Ayla and hid it from Elisha and Courtney, I wonder how they feel, knowing that he let them sleep there, essentially setting then up, as suspects?

I've wondered how they could all keep such a secret, and carry on with their lives.

I think Phoebe should be looked at more closely, and definitely Derek.

Masquerade said...

The only mothers that did "it" while Trista was in rehab, was Pheobe, and possibly Courtney. They aided Justin and pushed him to take Ayla. There's no way he decided, nor set that up, all by himself.

Masquerade said...

"Speaking of PI's, several months ago one of Justin's friends on the liars blog (I think her name was Katie, said Justin hired a private investigator. Can we find out who that is? Can you imagine his/her report?"

I can't believe that. He hired a PI for what, exactly? Wouldn't it be ironic if his own PI ended up obtaining evidence against his own client?

How did he afford a non-necessary PI anyway? He uses court appointed lawyers, doesn't he? Who is paying for a PI? Mommy? One of his surrogate mommies? TLLOM (is she still in "business"?)?

I agree with a previous commenter about Trista setting up a PI fund. If Trista set up a PI fund, I think she'd get quite a bit of money to go towards it. This case needs to be solved, one way or another.

shmi said...

So I read on the other post that Phoebe became an accountant, after she got all the gov't assistance she could. She now has a good state job as an accountant. I don't know if it's true, but it was written here. There's probably a few readers here from Maine that could confirm this.

I am speculating that the reason no charges have been filed against the Dips, is because Phoebe is cooking the books for someone important in Maine state gov't. She and her family are being protected from arrests or prosecution, because if information starts to flow, it could reach the upper echelons in Maine gov't.

There really isn't any other reason I can see for no arrests. This really isn't a who-done-it. Not even a question of why ($$). The police (and everyone who reads here)knows she is dead. What little one could survive so much blood loss?

Trista, if you read here, I am so sorry for your loss, and my bluntness. Please continue your quest for justice. I hope you are successful in bringing them all down. I think you are a very brave woman. Perhaps you should consider law school, as you already have a lot of experience with LE and the judicial system.

Shelley said...

This statment by Phoebe reminds me of the Roger Clemens statement about drug use.

Clemens: It never happened. Never happened. If I have these needles and these steroids and all these drugs, where did I get them? Where's the person that gave them to me? Please come forward.


I think she like Roger, felt strong enough that no one would call their bluff. I just hope someone does in this case.

And considering that she herself has a lawyeer, as the grandmother who was not even present when this hapened.... screams of her guilty knowledge. So on top of the nerve she has with her statement, they also have lawyers and have refused to talk and have those lawyers now to protect them from talking. So her statement is like the MacCanns saying "why not ask us questions if they think we are guilty"

Cause B#$% you already REFUSED to answer questions so to say that after the fact with a lawyer is a joke.

Is this lost on the public? I hope not. I know its worked for the MacCann crew. Despite their lack of searching, leaving their babies alone, lying, refusing to answer questions, they still have supporters.


To me tho, her statement. Would be like someone acting tuff and starting a fight with someone with a big body guard standing there protecting them. Yeah, your a bad ass with your body guard by your side.

In this case, the "body guard" is the lawyer.

They are all trash!

And as much as I love my son, if he grew up and and was that kind of man to my grandchild and did what Justin has done and I had reason to believe or had proof he was involved, I would drag him under that bus!


I would never lie for my son for something like that.

Maggie said...

I think I have figured this case out, I'm going to post an idea that just came to me under Peter's most recent thread.

Anonymous said...

I am a Grandmother and I know for a fact that if my Grandchild was Missing I would be Doing anything and Everything in my Power to find Them not sitting back and waiting for someone else to do it for me,
I dont understand anyone that would or could allow or defend what these 3 Adults (as she refers to them as) They Know something and if she doesnt know that then she is blind or involved herself, I as a parents as well understand why Trista is so Frustrated with LE because I feel something should be done and I dont understand why something hasnt been done yet Hold them for something endangerment of a child or something like that.

Anonymous said...

They seem to be both...

Anonymous said...

re
shmi said...

So I read on the other post that Phoebe became an accountant, after she got all the gov't assistance she could. She now has a good state job as an accountant. I don't know if it's true, but it was written here. There's probably a few readers here from Maine that could confirm this.

I am speculating that the reason no charges have been filed against the Dips, is because Phoebe is cooking the books for someone important in Maine state gov't. She and her family are being protected from arrests or prosecution, because if information starts to flow, it could reach the upper echelons in Maine gov't.

There really isn't any other reason I can see for no arrests. This really isn't a who-done-it. Not even a question of why ($$). The police (and everyone who reads here)knows she is dead. What little one could survive so much blood loss?

Trista, if you read here, I am so sorry for your loss, and my bluntness. Please continue your quest for justice. I hope you are successful in bringing them all down. I think you are a very brave woman. Perhaps you should consider law school, as you already have a lot of experience with LE and the judicial system.
_______________

I've just researched this case and I would have this conclusion as well. Also....



Paper trail cold on $19 million in federal welfare funds
By Associated Press, 5/8/2003 20:00AUGUSTA, Maine (AP) State auditor Gail Chase plans to tell legislators on Friday that she can't find a paper or electronic trail for $19 million the state received from the federal Temporary Assistance to Needy Families program...

I can't find the actual article online but I remember this and I found a board where this was c/p from.