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Speculative comments by the public have not brought reasonable possibilities to light. It would appear that no one seems to know why no arrests have been effected.
Another question that remains unanswered, though speculation may yield some results, is why Maine State Police offered to show the Tudela family the blood evidence.
Do they believe Derek Tudela had some involvement?
Do they believe that the Tudelas would have had influence upon the DiPietros in getting them to confess to, perhaps, 'accidental' or 'unintentional' death?
It also raises another question:
Why would the Tudela family turn down the offer? Have they not come out and publicly express concern for the child?
Yet they also have come out in personal attacks against Ayla's mother, Trista Reynolds, a person they do not know.
Why would the family who sold Justin DiPietro the life insurance bundle, which included a $25,000 bet against a healthy toddler, not want to help police, if this is what police were, in fact, doing?
But what of Elisha DiPietro?
There is a major DHHS issue involved here that needs to be addressed.
A. A child met foul play on a night in which Elisha DiPietro and her child were present.
B. Police publicly stated that Elisha DiPietro was withholding information about what happened to said child on that night.
Question: How is it that Elisha DiPietro does not pose Jeopardy to her own child?
It is commonly understood in DHHS that if an adult poses a risk to one child, the adult poses a risk to another child. If an adult can harden her heart towards one, the adult can harden her heart towards another. If an adult can be negligent in failing to protect one child, she is a threat (legal, Jeopardy) to another.
How was she able to keep custody of her child?
Where was the baby's father?
Why didn't the baby's father (or his family) rush to court, newspaper in hand of the police quote, and allow a judge to give a temporary order of custody?
DHHS knows well that when someone is seen as being indifferent to the care of a child, this person is not to be trusted with a child.
Where are the parenting classes or mandatory counseling?
For those of you interested in justice for Ayla, yes, it is true that these actions would have likely impacted Elisha DiPietro in a profound way, which would have given at least the possibility of coercing her into giving police the information they needed to give Ayla a proper burial.
The same principles can be applied to Courtney Roberts.
Had an appropriate adult gone to court in Maine and told a judge:
The mother was at the home with her child at the time Ayla met foul play and has not been forthcoming to police, there is not a judge in the State that would have taken this lightly.
Another blaring question remains unanswered:
Could Elisha DiPietro and/or Courtney Roberts have been charged with any crimes such as child endangerment, obstruction, or anything along these lines that could have led to the giving of information on Ayla?
Instead, police strategy was, according to the maternal family, offer to show friends of the paternal family crime scene photos of Ayla's blood strewn all over.
What were they thinking?
We don't know the answer to this, but we do know that:
*An insurance policy was taken out against a healthy toddler that would yield a large sum of money in the event of the child's death;
*Weeks later, she was reported missing with a false story, and indications that her blood was spilled in the home...everywhere from the father's shoes right out to the vehicle, and it appears:
The Tudelas do not care less about it, and police strategy has not led to arrests, now forcing the hand of the desperate maternal family to take their case to the public.
No matter what the motive was, an underlining motive of money was present in this case.
For those unfamiliar with the Maine welfare system, having babies means having money. There are more ways to gain money without work than imaginable; creative ways that would stun the public. Those who game the system are aided by State workers due to job security issues. From cash benefits to reduced rent to free internet and on it goes. Elisha DiPietro and Courtney Roberts would have faced a loss of money in the event they lost custody of their children.
They might have talked. Instead, police offered to show the Tudelas the blood evidence?
Justin DiPietro faced a financial bonanza in the event of a healthy toddler's death, and if it was not the initial motive, it certainly gave traction to his raging temper and hatred of Trista Reynolds, and resentment of having to pay child support for the next 16 years if he were not to gain custody.
We will likely hear of an unintended death, but given the escalation of abuse that Ayla suffered, and the life insurance policy taken out against her, there was nothing unintended about her death.
Let's hope prosecutors show some courage, and stop with "our 25 years experience" rhetoric of inactivity and deal making.
Yes, they have one shot, but why not take it?
We still have the shadow of the Boulder Grand Jury's indictment of John and Patsy Ramsey in the child abuse death of their daughter, Jonbenet, which was left unsigned by the cowardly prosecutor, Alex Hunter and his "many years experience" in the office.
A coward is no better for having been a coward for decades.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 270 of 270I will post this again:
"Those who fail to protect the innocent and the weak will carry the burden of strengthening the unfolding of evil.
I encourage prosecutors to be bold and unwavering in seeking justice for children. You are their voice. You are the torch bearers of justice for the silenced, innocent ones. Be courageous with evidence laid at your feet.
Isn't that what you took an oath for?"
Jazzie--Thank you for posting the link! And that is very interesting about what you pointed out about Phoebe's profession as relates to the possible writer of the AH letter.
This commenter from Lewiston, ME has very personalized, vicious anger and bitterness towards Trista. He is, as you put it, "relentlessly" degrading her attempting to dehumanize her and her children (calling them "her spawn"). I feel that this individual is extraordinarily degrading and that their language contains very strong indicators of someone capable of dangerous violent actions. It is very concerning, and I will look closer at the comments on there by this individual.
Masquerade--With this poster hating Trista so much about her being on welfare; If the poster is Derek and he was involved with a life insurance plot against Ayla, this may be why he is so angry, attempting to dehumanize Trista as a "leech" and "parasite" on society, to maybe try to justify in his sick mind "taking some money back" so to speak. Extremely sick!
AJ--Very good catch about the "Pandora's Box"!!!
I don't know who is the commenter on the link I posted. Is it Phoebe Dipietro, Derek Tudela, or someone else?
"Justin, in his case, obviously is her father, ah, she was in his custody, ah, and that, um, we believe he knows more than he told us. Oh and um, and that is where we stand. That, there is, we think, that he or the two others, inside that home, or any others that are associated with that home, may have information but they just haven't told us."
Steve McCausland, MSP
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/31/news/mid-maine/police-highly-unlikely-ayla-reynolds-will-be-found-alive/
This statement stood out to me simply because it was the first time McCausland stated "or any others that are associated with that home"... "may have information"
Kripes. Just read what AJ said.
Commenter dons another name "time for answers"
reminiscent of Justin:"When the time is right, everything is going to come out."
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html?pagenum=full
Lewiston.,ME commentor: "and to be fair to LE, this story is a pandora's box.."
and..
Phoebe Dipietro says: "For my family - the last thing left in Pandora 's Box is hope."
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/257753/2/DiPietros-mother-responds-to-Reynolds-claims
and remember Phoebe said: "I love my son, and I support him 100%,"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/13/justice/maine-missing-toddler-ayla-reynolds/index.html
Jazzie--I would say the commenter is Derek Tudela. Absolutely. I think what is probably going on--building on what AJ pointed out about the commenter using the phrase "Pandora's Box" is thay Derek wrote Phoebe's press release. You have definitely discovered a gold mine.
My question is this:
Who has more reason to hate Trista?
Someone who helped to harm/remove Ayla or someone who loved the person who harmed/removed Ayla?
As always, just wondering.
Maybe I answered my own question - the person could be one in the same.
Thanks Jazzie, for the custody article. This is a snippet:
"Cornelio said police called Maine Department of Health and Human Services and confirmed that the state agency had authorized DiPietro to take custody of the daughter."
So, dhhs "authorized DiPietro to take custody of the daughter".
So, dhhs decided Ayla's custody, without court approval, I guess, according to police.
The whole custody issue is odd. I understand Trista did end up making an agreement with Justin. For some reason, she changed her mind, and Ayla was left bu Trista, in Trista's mother and sisters care. It wasn't until days (7?) later, that Justin decided to "make good" on the agreement. Why did he wait? What authorization does dhhs have to award custody? I understand that ultimately, Justin had a right, but why was dhhs and the police involved in a custody case, which would normally be referred to family court?
I will be trying to keep following along here, but with so many comments, it gets all wonky on my phone. The comments shift and end up on top of the comment box where you type, so it gets difficult and I can't really see what I'm typing.
Jazzie--Great question! Is this commenter just someone defending Justin or someone who had involvement in Ayla's disappearance.
One thought that I had is that if the commenter is Derek, and if he had involvement is making Ayla "disappear" the night after Trista filed for custody, he may have felt very confident that the timing of Ayla's disappearance would have framed Trista. He may be raging unable to comprehend how that attempt to frame her didnt work, especially since, in his view, she and her family are subhuman.
I will be, and I really hope anyone else interested would go through the commenter's posts on the link you put up and look for any indicators of possible involvement.
I have just a little time right now, so here is what I see in comment #1.
Facts Not Fiction said:
"Ayla never stood a chance with your dead beat family of leeches!"
1). "Ayla never stood a chance"
--since this person is vehemently defending Justin, why is Facts Not Fiction making this leap in logic. We
understand Facts Not Fiction thinks
Trista and family are terrible, but Ayla
was living with Justin when she "disappeared"
2). "dead beat family of leeches"
--please note the word "dead" included in this sentence saying "Ayla never stood a chance"
--please note that in comment # 2, Facts Not Fiction makes "deadbeat" one word, but in the sentence about "Ayla never standing a chance" he splits the word "deadbeat" so that it is "dead beat" with the word "dead" standing by itself. Oh, and also so the word "beat" stands by itself. Please note in Fact Not Fiction's very next comment he writes "deadbeat" correctly as one word.
From Facts Not Fiction's comment # 2:
"Trista is a heartless bitch who has lost one child and has nothing to offer her second child but grief and a lifetime of illiteracy and poverty."
He is saying of Trista:
1) she is a "heartless bitch" (note he begins the sentence by dehumanizing her (calls her a "bitch") and also says she doesn't have feelings ( she is "heartless")
2). He next presents a situation where we should feel compassion for Trista when he says she has "lost one child", but to him he turns this into an insult saying all she has to offer her 2nd child is "grief".
This is extremely concerning--it is leakage that he knows Trista is grieving but insulates himself from feeling guilty about this by saying of Trista:
1). she is "heartless" (no feelings")
2) yet he lets slip that he knows she does feel bc he then tells us she will offer her 2nd child "only grief", so what he is doing is making fun of her for feeling grief, it is weakness and it also makes her a bad parent with nothing to "offer".
I think this sentence reveals some guilty feelings on the part of Facts Not Fiction that he is quickly trying to get rid of.
More from Facts Not Fiction's comment #2:
"Trista is not doing ONE SINGLE THING to get off the dole!"
--Note that this individual has a change in language here from calling welfare "welfare" ("wefare scum sis") to "the dole" which is the system of welfare in Ireland and England. Has this person spent time in either of these countries?
"I will start a fundraiser to pay for the surgery for your sterilization!"
--Note that this individual does not say "I will start a fundraiser so you can be sterilized". Rather, they introduce the word " the surgery" which carries a violent connotation as it is the cutting into an individual.
"Trista is a heartless bitch who has lost one child and has nothing to offer her second child but grief and a lifetime of illiteracy and poverty.
Let him go to a GOOD HOME where he can at least learn to speak proper english, Trista!
LIKE YEAH!"
--Please not the order of importance as to the things Fact Not Fiction dislikes about what Trista will offer her 2nd child:
1) grief
2) illiteracy
3) lifetime of poverty
Please note that "illiteracy" is important to Facts Not Fiction as they follow this sentence by saying that the second child should "at least learn to speak proper english."
--Please not that we now have 2 things suggesting Facts Not Fiction may have spent time in England or be close to someone who is from England.
1) he uses the word "dole"
2) he feels Trista's child should "speak proper english" (this is something that the English sometimes say of Americans that they do not "speak proper english".
"Adopt him out to a family who is READY for children and not braindead drug addict psycho drunks!"
This is a criticism of Trista's entire family. Facts Not Fiction feels they are
1) Not READY (all capitals) for children (plural)
2) braindead (not that Facts Not Fiction is again using a word containing the word "dead" in the same sentence talking about Trista and her children
3) drug addicts
4) psycho
5) drunks
Please note that Derek has called the "kidnapper" an "evil psycho who steals babies". It may be worth noting here the use of the word "psycho" again as the second to last insult in a string of insults.
Maggie:
Why do you think that the person who posted comments on the link I provided was male?
As always, just wondering.
Hate is an emotion shared by both genders.
Maggie:
The term "to speak proper English" could be a reference to Trista using "street","ghetto", "slang", "urban", "internet", etc. instead of using the correct forms/expressions of the English language.
The person posting says: "Let him go to a GOOD HOME where he can at least learn to speak proper english, Trista!
LIKE YEAH!"
I feel the person was making a real slam against Trista's intelligence/status in life. Showcasing her lack of higher education by attacking her way of talking: "Like Yeah".
Note: Good Home is in all caps.
It's hard to read the comments of the link: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/south-portland-me/TKDQPU8O2QO222V3V
Makes my skin crawl. I can't figure out if F-N-F is female or male. Hard to say even after sifting through all the anger and hate that they posted.
Who will speak the truth for Ayla
instead of vying for recognition?
I wonder where Ayla can be.
And why no one will speak up for her.
Beyond sad.
Technically Masquerade, Trista did lose custody of Ayla when Phoebe connived (legally) with her DHHS buddy to have Ayla removed from the care of Tristas' sister while Trista was in rehab, along with the help of the local PO when they showed up to grab Ayla, which is customary when one parent has been approved to take custody of a minor child away from the custodial parent, whether temporarily or permanently.
This put Trista in the position of having to refile to regain custody of Ayla, which she had done that Friday just prior to Ayla being reported missing; this being approx thirty days after Trista was released from rehab.
As to the spiteful yoyo who posts all those belittling welfare-breeder-mother claims against Trista, while the things this individual is saying may have a ring of truth to them; to poke a hole in his bubble is quite simple:
All of these programs that Trista is entitled too were not made under any special concessions for her per se'. The State allocates its' welfare-child care budget and approves its' programs fiscally in advance.
It is the State who determines what eligible low income and single parents are entitled to receive these benefits and not one particular individual who sets any guidelines or makes special concessions for any particular applicant. The money accrues from prepaid taxes and is already sitting there to pay for them, waiting to be claimed by the approved applicants.
Tax budgets are allocated fiscally IN ADVANCE to pay for these programs regardless as to who the recipients may be. It is not costing this idiot one dime more in taxes for Trista to receive the benefits that she has already been approved for. This idiot gets to pay the same amount in taxes for these programs whether he likes it or not, regardless as to who the beneficiaries are under these state approved programs. His problem is not with Trista, it is with the State. Duh...
Hi Jazzie--Do you think the commenter could be Phoebe? The question you are asking male or female is SOOO important, because there is a high likelihood (after what AJ pointed out about 'Pandora's Box) that this individual wrote Phoebe's recent statement to the press and I am even thinking may have been the contributing writer of the AH letter (see FNF showing off his legal knowledge when taling about Trista's boyfriend and sister's court cases).
I am thinking FNF is male, between 20-40 years old, college educated, pseudo-intellectual, likes to show off his vocab.
This "showing off of vocab" I feel is male (you can see he's sticking so many unnecessary SAT word adjectives in almost every sentence.). This seems male to me.
The hard-hitting pace of it seems male. As you pointed out, the "relentlessness" of it, insult after insult.
Some of the more graphic insults towards Trista even the way in which this person talks about the sex that they refer too, I feel like this is a male (although horrible male) perspective.
I am very interested to hear what you think about the possible gender of facts not fiction!
Also, I wonder if someone should bring the FNF's comment with "Pandora's Box" to Peter's attention???? I think he would be interested in it.
When I get home, I will cut and paste it here!
I've done an "off topic" in the Hannah Anderson thread to let Peter know about the comments from Facts Not Fiction and I have also posted the comment that contained the Pandora's Box reference under the Hannah Anderson thread. I thought Peter would want to know about the Pandora's Box reference.
I have posted an "off topic" in the Hannah Anderson thread to let Peter now about Facts Not Fiction's comments and alerted him to FNF referring to Ayla's story as a "Pandora's Box". Considering this "Pandora's Box" comment was written in April 2012 (before Phoebe's comment) I figured he would be very interested in seeing it.
Here is another section of the Lewiston, ME commenter's writing that contains a familiar phrase "rumor was floated" when talking about evidence found by police
"A rumor was floated that Trista saw photos of the items and they are a blanket and backpack or bag that was in (you guessed it) the father's possesion. There follows a long story about the significance of a pink blanket and it's sentimental value to you, Jess..(still reading here?), and of course how the pink blanket just illustrated perfectly how rotten Justin is because Trista SPECIFICALLY requested the return of that very blanket the first week? that Ayla went missing and many times since but he never gave it back..(to sum up her latest soap opera script in one run on sentence).
My 2 cents (the letter)
IMO: Elisha is involved in the the cover up.
Lets say for arguement sake, Elisha is the one that 'discoved' Ayla missing that morning.
1. Elisha wakes and start going about her daily routine.
2. Elisha goes to check on Ayla and discover she is not in her room.
Note: These are the parts that is very confusing (or) when the 'performance' starts.
Remember, EVERY MORNING, the now infamous gate is placed in the doorway, so the girl(s) can not get out. These are not my words. They are in the letter.
When Elisha goes into the room and 'discover' Ayla is not in her room, My question is: Who put the gate up that morning? According to the letter, the gate was put up because, Justin busted/kicked the gate open in his 'panic.
Did Elisha put the gate up 'AFTER' she discover Ayla missing and then goes and get Justin? ( did she check on Ayla first or put up the gate first. Elisha is not a good actress as she thinks. Remember, the gate was put up THAT MORNING. Seems too staged and does not make sense.
Maggie:
Hard to say whether FNF [aka other screen names] is male or female.
I have heard educated women (some mid 20's to some in their 40's) refer to women who have more than one child or women on welfare as "breeders".
Something about the entire language of the thread strikes me as female - albeit a really angry female.
e.g. not many men would say the word "vagina". They would defer to using the slang/curse especially if they are angry with the woman.
I understand there is definitely shared words that could be linked to Derek Tudela. e.g. "breeder" "psycho evil", etc.
Is it Phoebe? When I saw the video of Trista at the courthouse: http://bangordailynews.com/2013/09/25/news/portland/relatives-of-ayla-reynolds-face-off-at-portland-court/
Phoebe is really angry. And keeps deflecting. It could be because well she is the mother of Justin and it is her house that Ayla went missing/crime scene.
In reply to:
Anonymous said...
Was the person who dictated this letter possibly someone who worked in a professional job involving computers or financial dealings (perhaps life insurance)?
Phrases found in letter that may support this:
1) logical mind
2) defy reason
3) competing
4) respects her drive
5) if-then scenario
6) support network
October 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM
I responded with Phoebe working for the state/city in some capacity with accounting/audits but could not find a link. But someone might want to think laterally: Phoebe's sister Selena Johnson. She is Phoebe's older sister.
Selena Johnson:
College educated, around 50, female, Phoebe's sister, bible on FB, tinkerbell references
https://www.facebook.com/selena.johnson2
http://www.blurb.com/books/1260153-piffle-designs
[one page bio: pursuing a career in computer information science with heavy concentration in graphic arts. Uof Maine, Augusta]
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Report-Blood-found-in-Ayla-Reynolds-home.html?pageType=mobile&id=1
As always, just wondering.
And hoping for justice for Ayla.
Jazzie--What you are saying about FNF possibly being female is true, and that is interesting that you hear a female voice in the writing.
When you 1st asked male or female last night I thought through the comments from FNF and realized they never refer to themselves (for example "I am a mother and....or I am a father and....)
It is true that some of the more graphic insults may have been put in much cruder or vulger terms by a male.
I am open to it possibly being Phoebe or her sister who is FNF.
Another thing that lends itself to your theory of FNF being female is I noticed how FNF wrote "HOW MUCH LONGER TO WE HAVE TO PAY TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN?" This could be a complaint that Phoebe literally had (if she was financially supporting Ayla).
Or, who knows--could the Tudelas have given the DiPietros some money to help support Ayla when she was living on Violette Ave?
One other thing, and maybe this is not important, the way FNF rants about Trista's only being able to provide illiteracy for her children and they should "lesrn to speak proper English" made me think of how Phoebe said what Ayla liked was "books" and how she had bought her books for Christmas (she showed these book gifts on TV).
Whoever FNF is, he or she is someone who hates Trista passionately and who was obssessively following every detail of the case and in their writings were nervous about the police (ie. what do thry know? what are they bluffing about? what kinds of tests are they running? when will they "admit defeat"?). This is an individual who I would say there is high likelihood of involvement w Ayla's disappearance.
And VERY interesting about Phoebe's sisters degree in computer science--there may be some involved that people are not even suspecting!
as I stated people need to start thinking laterally because:
"any others that are associated with that home, may have information but they just haven't told us."
Steve McCausland, MSP
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/31/news/mid-maine/police-highly-unlikely-ayla-reynolds-will-be-found-alive/
Because I sense that the person who commented on the link provided could be female, and the fact that Derek is on the radar with his FB shout outs using "breeder" and "psycho", we need to consider Heidi Tudela as a lateral focus.
SHe did orchestrate an major interview:
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html?pagenum=full
and remember the Tudela's "offered them food, clothing and a place to stay." to the "displaced" DiPietros.
She goes on to say: "“If you’re quiet enough,” she said. “If you’re someone who knows the house, for example, then you can be in and out of the house really fast."
and
"If you’re quiet enough,” she said. “If you’re someone who knows the house, for example, then you can be in and out of the house really fast."
and
"There’s nothing that says he has done something. It’s as simple as that,” she said. “And, if he were to be proven guilty of something, I would still be OK with (having supported him), because it was still the right thing to do. Do I believe he is guilty? Absolutely not. But, I still would’ve been OK with what I did, because it’s still the right way to go about it. You don’t convict somebody without evidence.”
http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Father-friends-say-its-possible-cops-say-no-way.html?pagenum=full
OK who in their right mind says this kind of stuff after the police rule there is no abduction unless she has knowledge?
As always, just wondering.
Meant the second Heidi Tudela quote to be: "I work with babies all day long. I can pick up babies, carry them around in their sleep, and they do not wake up,” she said."
"Psycho Who Steals Babies?" and
"Adopt him out to a family who is READY for children and not braindead drug addict psycho drunks!" PLEASE!
Who's zooming who?
Can't tell.
Wish I knew.
Hoping for Justice for Ayla.
Person makes comparison references to three women in thread: Amber Frey, Monica Lenwisky, and Tammy Faye:
"Love the Amber Frey makeover Trista! "
"Trista pulls a Monica Lewinsky and says Justin's bedsheets have her blood on them because she was having 'an affair' with him and they had sex while menstruating."
"Wordman's 'leak' detailing Trista's Lewiston Lewinski has spawned speculation that she could even have been re-fertilized by Ayla's father."
"Wearing an inappropriate sexy sun top and trowled-on Tammy Faye makeup,(rather than an unflattering, helpful Ayla is Missing Tshirt)"
Who says :
"WE ARE STUCK SUPPORTING TRISTA AND HER SPAWN UNTIL SHE DIES AT 89 YEARS OLD!"
and
"it's time to make the donuts!"
Someone who is dating themselves.
I agree Jazzie, the person is dating themselves with those comments.
I hadn't thought of Selena. That's a definite possibility. She is/was known to get pretty heated on the other blog. She also comes up with all scenarios, then claims she doesn't actually talk to her family about Ayla. The commenter also linked the other blog, which seemed to be where Selena enjoyed commenting.
The talk of (the state/taxpayers) having to support Trista's "spawn", where was Justin? Why wasn't he supporting Ayla? What about Justin's other child? Who is supporting him? Is Justin? I don't understand the put downs of one, yet the other is in the same situation (2 kids with 2 different mothers). What's the difference? Poor Justin, he keeps getting tricked into getting girls pregnant (that's sarcastic font).
Jazzie--I'm with you! I am seeing how the Derek lingo would also be "the household's" lingo--I am sure they have thrown the "one night stand" phrase around while talking about Trista.
You've spotted something really important also!!! Heidi does "put herself into the role of kidnapper" while speaking, imagining how "easily" it could be done.
Since Heidi took the whole DiPietro clan in, fed them, clothed them as soon as Derek said "Mommy Justin needs us!" I feel there is a good chance Heidi may have been giving Justin/Phoebe money to pay for Ayla while she lived with the DiPietros.
I am going to cut and paste from your Heidi quote. Is this possibly some kind of embedded admission?
I'm going to look closely at Heidi's words.
"But, I still would’ve been OK with what I did, because it’s still the right way to go about it." --Heidi Tudela
Is this an embedded admission of some kind?
Also, the comparison to 3 women is very interesting:
1) Amber Freye (Her testimony landed Scott Peterson in jail for murder.)
2) Monica Lewinsky (Info "leaked" about her almost "brought down" an extremely powerful man.)
3) Tammy Faye Baker (This is dating the person; desperate effort to make Trista seem silly/noone will take her/what she is trying to do seriously).
Oh also (speaking of Heidi Tudela) did you see how one if the 1st things FNF reprimands Trista for:
"Do you really think she would seek daycare?"
I will find the exact quote when I get home.
I am going to read carefully through the FNF comments, see what I can spot!
Anonymous (regarding custody), thanks, I do see what you're saying. I like to think I'm somewhat intelligent, lol, but I can only understand the custody, dhhs, and LE, in regards to Ayla's case, to a certain point. It just doesn't fully compute in my mind for some reason, no matter how many times or ways it's explained. Thanks for trying, I appreciate it.
I still haven't gotten home to get on a computer where I can cut and paste much easier, so going on memory:
One of the things FNF said (under different screenname) that troubled me was when he/she wrote of Trista
1) she is excessively girdled
2) her lies have puffed her up big as a man
3) she is stuffed to the gills with deceit
All 3 of these statements are very strange and said in reference to the Lewiston commenter "observing" the way in which he/she feels Trista was attempting to "hide" another pregnancy. I am wondering, as disturbing as it is, if the commenter is "leaking" info on how he/she may have "hidden" another baby, baby Ayla. These references are disturbing, as they bring to mind "water"
This seems important: This is where the Lewiston commenter is becoming very nervous anout the searches;
"Investigating under the assumption she is alive? Don't know why they were searching the river then. We all pray that Ayla is alive. I know I cannot comprehend any reason for an adult hurting a little child, but it happens. One thing for sure, the truth will come out."
--The poster was angry/self-righteous about Trista having people in Maine search their properties for Ayla's 2nd birthday, but when they start searching water the Lewiston commenter shows they are getting nervous.
" I know I cannot comprehend any reason for an adult hurting a little child, but it happens."
--Lewiston commenter
According to SCAN, the above sentence has the highest sensitivity as the person is saying why something happened.
"I know I cannot comprehend any reason FOR AN ADULT HURTING A LITTLE CHILD, BUT IT HAPPENS."
Maybe this is crazy, but if Heidi is FNF, could Heidi have been sleeping with Justin?
Amber Freye and Monica Lewinsky were both "the other woman". It is strange FNF compares Trista to Amber and Monica.
What could cause FNF's vicious hatred but jealousy?
"Trista's lies have puffed her up big as a man."
Maybe this made FNF feel better for a moment to picture Trista as a "man" rather than as a woman she feels sexual jealousy towards.
All of FNF's lengthy ranting about Trista possibly being pregnant w a 3rd baby lead up to this musing on the part of FNF:
"Wordman's 'leak' asserts that Trista is not monogamous.
Perhaps Trista's fiancé sanctions her infidelities and they share an 'open relationship'?"
FNF is worried Trista may have been pregnant by Justin again.
I'm totally malwared or something. I am having severe access problems to internet today. Freaked out. Only my connections. Can't help/comment until I get some computer help.
Super freaked out. Every time I try to post today on Justice for Ayla and even tried Asking for Ayla Reynolds blogs my comments went "gone" and My mac is screwed up and my access to internet too screwed up. So freaking not happy to say the least. Wish I could help although I seem to be able to access SA, albeit wicked slow. That's why I didn't want to post anything I found in the first place. I don't need this stupid stuff. I have enough on my plate. All I wanted to do is find justice for Ayla. Now I'm dealing with computer meltdown.
I sensed what lengths people would go to silence people seeking justice for Ayla. I don't know what to do at this point.
I'm sorry you're dealing with that, Jazzie. I always look forward to your comments. :(
Hopefully it's just a glitch with your internet connection.
Jazzie--I'm really sorry you're dealing with computer problems and I hope everything gets straightened out with your computer. You have helped so much! I feel like you're right with FNF being a female and I feel like FNF was involved in Ayla's disappearance. I'll check back in the coming days to see if you get back on. Good luck with your computer!
Checked that already. Internet provider say ok. I don't trust people anyways. Kripes this just sucks.
There are always more ways to skin a cat. If this my only outlet to seek justice for Ayla then so be it. I will post here.
The 3 women reference was not lost on me. The affairs and all. But I'm not sure HT is the one who is pissed off. The Ayla Theories blog stated Phsobe was bio mom to Elisha and Justin. lance was described separate and made ref. To being brother but not of Phoebe as his bio mom. So is Lance a kid from an affair? Or did Pheobe rescue/ adopt Lance from a bad Mom?
The 3 women reference was not lost on me. The affairs and all. But I'm not sure HT is the one who is pissed off. The Ayla Theories blog stated Phsobe was bio mom to Elisha and Justin. lance was described separate and made ref. To being brother but not of Phoebe as his bio mom. So is Lance a kid from an affair? Or did Pheobe rescue/ adopt Lance from a bad Mom?
How does Selena factor in? She is hyper protective as big sis to Pbeobe and LAnce is hyper protective of family.
How does Selena factor in? She is hyper protective as big sis to Pbeobe and LAnce is hyper protective of family.
I tried posting on J4A and Ask4A today and my posts went gone. All I was trying to do was get someone to talk. i posted about cops interviewing kids in house last night and Ashley p. Responded that Gabby .mentally behind. I wanted to ask why is it because of drugs or alcohol ? Gabby looked like fetal.alcohol syndrone and o this k Elisha jealous of Trista and Ayla.
I tried posting on J4A and Ask4A today and my posts went gone. All I was trying to do was get someone to talk. i posted about cops interviewing kids in house last night and Ashley p. Responded that Gabby .mentally behind. I wanted to ask why is it because of drugs or alcohol ? Gabby looked like fetal.alcohol syndrone and o this k Elisha jealous of Trista and Ayla.
Sorry for double posts and crazy spelling. The stuff I do for justice. LOL
Wanted to relate toJeff that the majestic sequoias survive forest fires an that they actually flourish. Pass it on. Don't lose hope. I haven't.
Jazzie, are you thinking FNF is Phoebe or Selena? I dont know why Heidi popped into my head--just a possibilty.
That is so strange that Lance has a different Mom!
Right--FNF was VERY ANGRY Trista would not ADOPT OUT her 2nd baby!
Do you think there is any possibility at all Ayla is still alive having been sold ("adopted out") to someone?! Just curious about your opinion?
I did not know that about Elisha's baby having fetal alcohol syndrome--that could have caused extreme jealousy towards both Trista (mother who does not need to feel guilty about giving her baby FNS) and Ayla! Do you remember the poster earlier in this thread kept calling Trista a "stupid drunk"???
The Elisha and jealousy of a perfect baby--that is an interesting angle! I will look through FNF's language and see if there are any signs the writer could have a baby w fetal alcohol syndrome!
Jazzie--In the AH letter, Elisha is the one who discovers Ayla missing. Maybe Elisha took advantage of Phoebe sleeping somewhere else to "get rid" of Ayla. Whoever fed Angela Harry the info to put in her letter, I feel, is very nervous about convincing others that the "sleeping arrangements" the night Ayla went missing were "normal". Someone took advantage of the unusual sleeping arrangements (including Phoebe not sleeping there) to harm Ayla. This would lend itself to the Elisha theory.
Who is the father of Elisha's baby? Is it even known who the father is?
This will prob sound crazy, but could it be possible that Justin is the father of Gabby (maybe that is why there looks like there's something wrong w her baby--result of brother-sister incest?)
Maybe what happens is Elisha was stuck caring for Justin's perfect baby, meanwhile her baby just suposedly just has "no father", maybe Phoebe (knowing the situation) had even suggested to her that she "adopt Gabby out", Justin has his girlfriend and her son over, Phoebe leaves bc the house is extra crowded that night, abd so Elisha has her opportunity to strike out at Ayla?
Also, Elisha was/is a wannabe actress: Angela Harry uses the phrase "sets the stage" and FNF refers to the police investigation as a "theater".
Maggie, Gabby's father is Justin Linnel (sp?). He is the one that Justin pulled over his vehicle for, so Lance could beat him up, then Justin DiPietro claimed he didn't know what happened - he didn't see or hear anything, no explanation for pulling over, and he and Lance didn't speak about the incident once Lance got back in the vehicle. So, long story short, Gabby's father is known.
Masquerade, thank you for this info! Just trying to look at the case from every angle. Was the reason Lance tried to beat up Justin Linnel bc he was saying insulting things about the family??
Here is the section of the AH letter that talks about Elisha.
Note the change in the language from "Justins sister" to "the aunt".
Below the passage I will break down the info provided about Elisha:
It was at about 8:30 that Justins sister, whose room is closest to the baby room, awoke and started moving about the house in her Saturday morning routine. That particular night only Ayla was in her room as her younger cousin had slept in her mom's room. That wasn't at all unusual for the 18 month old and her mom. Moments later the aunt walked into the babies shared room only to find Ayla not there. After a rushed trip down the stairs and the discovery that Justin did not have Ayla either, there was instant panic. He bolted up the stairs, knocking over the gate that was placed there every morning for the two little girls, and into her room. Nothing. She wasn't there. She wasn't anywhere inside. Outside- nothing.
1). her room is closest to the baby room
2). she awoke
3). she started moving about
4) she walked into the girls shared room
5) she FOUND Ayla not there
6) she rushed down stairs
7) she DISCOVERED Justin did not have her (Ayla)
From here, the action is transferred to Justin.
Also a passive reference to a gate "which was placed every morning for the girls" (unspecified who places it--Elisha? Phoebe? Justin?)
Elisha's realization that Ayla is missing is not something she "realizes" or "notices". It is something she "finds" and "discovers".
Elisha's "finding" happens very quickly after she awakens.
1). "Moments later" after waking she "FINDS Ayla not in her room.
2). "After a rushed trip down the stairs" she DISCOVERS Ayla is not with Justin
Yes Maggie, supposedly JL had been talking about the family, then supposedly he was yelling at Justin and Lance when they drove by him. Just another instance of Justin keeping his lips sealed and getting out of trouble. How could he pull the vehicle over and not know why or what happened?
There's also custody issues between JL and Elisha.
Thank you Masquerade! One thing I feel sure of--I believe Ayla did "go missing that night, and that there is some resemblance to the Linburgh kidnapping--where SOMEONE (either from within or outside the house) pounced on the abnormal sleeping arrangements (including Phoebe's abscence) to take Ayla. Cant figure out if it was someone inside the house acting alone or outside person tipped off by an insider that Ayla would be sleeping alone in her room that night.
Wow! Most of what I knew about the Lindburgh kidnapping was from a show I saw featuring John Douglas. However, I just thought why dont I read the wikipedia on it. If anyone wants to go to wiki, Lindburgh kidnapping--go under the section where it says "The Crime"--Am I imagining the similarities in the times mentioned in AH letter (8pm and 10 pm) and other similarities (even the ransom demand $ 50,000 broken into &25,000 in 20 dollar bills). The life insurance on Ayla was $25,000. Which of them modeled this crime after the Lindburgh kidnapping? Could whoever did this crime have initially intended to demand a ransom?
Yes. This I believe. The level of anger and the mention of blood.
That Pheobe is FNF. Some serious anger and the fact she honed in on the Maine state $$ issue. I had a link to someone on MS but when I checks dit the MS doesn't keep their comments anymore and I didn't capture it. I had theink and the name.e of poster. This was in re: DHHS $$$ for claiming custody.
Although I did find d a screen capture of HT mentioning the white gloves.
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