Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Time Sizemore on Bill Clinton and Elizabeth Hurley: Is He Telling the Truth?

Is actor Tom Sizemore telling the truth about an affair between Bill Clinton and British actress, Elizabeth Hurley, while Hillary Clinton was next door?




 Here is Elizabeth Hurley's tweeted response:



"Ludicrously silly stories about me & Bill Clinton. Totally untrue. In the hands of my lawyers. Yawn."

What do you make of Hurley's denial?

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, she never does use the 3 parts of a reliable denial (the pronoun "I", the words did not or didn't, and specificity in what is being denied). And the lack of any specifics when she says "titally untrue" is noticeable.

Still, i think allowance has to be made for the fact that this is a tweet, and brevity is neccessary or at least a part of tweeting.

Anonymous said...

I believe her.

Apple said...

It's unreliable. More statements needed.

TrishapaK said...

I completely believe him. None of his story seemed rehearsed, nor did it ever seem like he was trying to convince us of anything. He had a truthful story to tell and responded to the questions appropriately along the way.
Her denial is almost non-existent. Dropped pronouns all around - not one complete sentence.
I agree with the Anonymous @3:44 about an allowance being necessary for the fact that it's a tweet. It's true that brevity is necessary but if you think about what the expected would be if you were being lied about this way. I doubt that you'd end with "Yawn"

Anonymous said...

Unreliable.

Jen Ow said...
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Sus said...

I don't expect pronouns because it's a tweet.

Too many qualifiers.

"Totally untrue"

"Yawn" to show it bores her, yet she just intimidated her lawyers would deal with him.

"me & Bill Clinton" shows unity

Unreliable...something may have happened between her and Bill Clinton. Though, I'm not sure it happened as Tom Sizemore says. He told most of it in present tense as if he's making it up as he goes.

Trigger said...

I'm waiting for a reliable denial from Ms. Hurley.

We know that Bill has lied in the past. He won't give up his lies without evidence.

Maybe Ms. Hurley knows that there is no evidence.

Why does she need lawyers to sort this out? Yawn

Hobnob said...

it doesn't take 149 characters to make a strong first person singular, past tense, event specific denial,

I did not have an affair with bill clinton.

I did not have a sexual relationship with bill clinton

I did not have sex with bill clinton

I did not have a innapropriate relationship with bill clinto

plus whatever variations on the theme of strong reliable denial.

if she can't say it, i can't say it for her

DotC said...

I agree with Sus - much of TS's story is told in present tense, rather than the expected past-tense if it were a true recollection. It definitely sounds like a good story, but a reliable one? Not sure. Hurley's denial doesn't include "I" or "did not" with reference to the story, so it's not reliable yet - I don't believe either one, without hearing/reading more.

Hobnob said...

140 not 149

DotC said...

Huh - well, according to Huffington post, Sizemore recants the whole story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/hurley-clinton-affair-tom-sizemore-video_n_4733818.html

DotC said...

From the Huffington post article:

"It's not true. I was never at the White House. I've never met Bill Clinton," Sizemore told HuffPost Live. "I'm not denying that I said these things. I don't remember saying them, but it's an old video tape and they're the rantings of a guy...that had a very severe drug problem. Although I said it, none of it is true."

Kellie Sue said...

HA! Maybe her lawyer helped TS decide to admit his sins.

Anonymous said...

i don't think they are eachother's type.

Anonymous said...

I don't know if the principle of reliable denial apply when you are accused of farfetched things by someone who is mentally unstable. When Peter is accused of secretly hiding aliens in his garden shed which he planning to use to start a zombie apocalypse. How would he issue a reliable denial?

"No, I am not hiding any aliens in my garden shed. I am not planning a zombie apocalypse".

Or

"Of course. Did you take your medication?"

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Peter Hyatt said...

Did anyone notice him slip into present tense language?

If the entire story is in present tense, it could be his method of speaking. (Irish story telling comes to mind)

Yet, when someone speaks in the past tense, slips into present tense, he is reducing his commitment to what happened.

There are exceptions as we see this sometimes in PTSD sufferers (the suffering continues to the present day) but when speaking of a past event that happened to someone else, we expect to hear plain language.

Question for readers:

Elizabeth Hurley did not issue a reliable denial.

Let's assume that it did not happen.

Give your opinion as to why Hurley might have avoided given a reliable denial at this time?

The "it is too absurd to answer" doesn't make a lot of sense given her background and publicity, and the former President's background.

What sayest you?


Peter

C5H11ONO said...

I believe that if Elizabeth Hurley gave an unreliable response, it doesn't necessarily mean it is true, but there is sensitivity to what happened, so some parts may be true.

If it happened, she is providing an unreliable denial because it is embarrassing, that she too, is one of the many in Clinton's repertoire. I don't think it's something to be proud of, and the fact he is married to a woman that might run for President (and actually win) doesn't help her situation. Even Tom S was discussing about how powerful the President was with the things he wanted. Imagine a woman scorned in office.

If it didn't happen, I think she did go to the party as discussed, she flirted with the President to a significant level, but nothing happened. -- One would need to know what extent they went to. Maybe they kissed and chatted on the phone and said sweet nothings into each others ears, and President Clinton copped a feel here and there. Maybe she too has a stained dress sitting in her closet and his cigar collection is kept inside his air conditioner like Dexter keeps his microscope slides. But, they didn't have sex!

Sus said...

The story as Tom Sizemore told it is not true. Elizabeth Hurley couldn't issue a reliable denial because she and Bill Clinton did have some sort of relationship. I'm guessing she told Tom Sizemore about it.

Lemon said...

Question for readers:

Elizabeth Hurley did not issue a reliable denial.

Let's assume that it did not happen.

Give your opinion as to why Hurley might have avoided given a reliable denial at this time?

The "it is too absurd to answer" doesn't make a lot of sense given her background and publicity, and the former President's background.

What sayest you? - PH
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She might avoid giving a reliable denial because she likes the attention and publicity. She might think it improves her visibility, or gravitas for a particular role she's trying for.
Maybe she dislikes Bill's wife? :)

Anonymous said...

She's hardly yawning if she's already called her lawyers.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she wants to be vague in her response so that people think she did have a relationship with him.

Peter Hyatt said...

Some excellent comments.

I think she enjoyed the publicity and not only called her lawyer (negating the "yawn" as someone pointed out) but she probably called her publicist, too!

Peter