Thursday, July 17, 2014

President Obama Jokes After Mentioning Plane Crash

President Obama mentioned the plane crash of which almost 300 people were killed, including a report of 23 Americans.

40 seconds after mentioning it in his speech, the President of the United States went back to joking.

From the Daily Mail:

President Barack Obama provoked fury in the U.S. on Thursday by casually devoting less than a minute to the deaths of 295 people aboard a Malaysian airliner, as he began an often jokey 16-minute speech about the need to expand America’s transportation infrastructure.
There are no confirmed American dead, an earlier Reuters report claimed that it was feared that as many as 23 U.S. citizens had perished.

Obama declared in Wilmington, Delaware that 'it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy,' but not before enthusiastically declaring that 'it is wonderful to be back in Delaware.'

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Condolences? Obama briefly mentioned the plane crash in eastern Ukraine on Thursday before launching into his prepared remarks and blaming Republicans for slow-walking transportation spending
Condolences? Obama briefly mentioned the plane crash in eastern Ukraine on Thursday before launching into his prepared remarks and blaming Republicans for slow-walking transportation spending
The president's speech went on as planned, complete with laugh lines, despite the deaths of nearly two dozen U.S. citizens in what appears to have been a deliberate missile attack
The president's speech went on as planned, complete with laugh lines, despite the deaths of nearly two dozen U.S. citizens in what appears to have been a deliberate missile attack
Boston Globe reporter Matt Viser captured the online reactions to Obama's statement about the downed airliner

'Before I begin, obviously the world is watching reports of a downed passenger jet near the Russia-Ukraine border. And it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy. Right now we’re working to determine whether there were American citizens on board. That is our first priority.'
'And I've directed my national security team to stay in close contact with the Ukrainian governemnt. The United States will offer any assistance we can to help determine what happened and why. And as a country, our thoughts and prayers are with all the families and passengers, wherever they call home. 
Obama then jarringly quickly returned to his prepared remarks. 
'I want to thank Jeremie for that introduction' he said. 'Give Jeremie a big round of applause.'
'It is great to be in the state that gave us Joe Biden. We’ve got actually some better-looking Bidens with us here today.  We've got Beau and his wife, Hallie, are here. Give them a big round of applause. We love them.'

Damage control: Obama spoke to Ukrainian President Poroshenko while he flew on Air Force One between Wilmington, Delaware and New York City, and the White House quickly distributed a photo
Damage control: Obama spoke to Ukrainian President Poroshenko while he flew on Air Force One between Wilmington, Delaware and New York City, and the White House quickly distributed a photo
Obama also acknowledged the presence of Treasury Secretary Jack Lew with a joke.
'Jack Lew’s signature is actually on your money,' he said, 'although it's kind of illegible. We teased him when he first became treasury secretary that he was going to have to fix his signature a little bit because it looked just like a caterpillar running along the bottom.' 

From there he launched into a 16-minute speech about transportation projects he wants Republicans to fund, complaining bitterly about their objections to his end-runs around the federal legislature.

'When I have a chance to help communities like Wilmington, I’m going to do it,' he said, as cable news networks focused on the lives lost in Eastern Ukraine.

'That’s when my administration takes these executive actions, when Congress won’t act. And so far, the only response we’ve gotten from the Republicans is a lawsuit. They're suing me for doing my job, instead of going ahead and doing their job.'
'That's disappointing,' Obama said. 'It’s a political stunt.'

Twitter erupted, with thousands of users expressing emotions ranging from disappointment to disgust. 

Former CNN host Piers Morgan reacted with his typical barbs.

'President Obama massively dropped the ball just now,' Morgan tweeted. '23 Americans killed and he says "it looks like a terrible tragedy" then back to jokes?'

'I agree,' responded singer Josh Groban. 'Bad prep. I was shocked.'

National Review reporter Charles Cooke tweeted: 'Shorter Obama: 'Something awful has happened with a plane. It’s awful. Awful. Republicans are bastards for not funding new airports".'







Twitter reactions to Barack Obama?s statement that MH17 'might be a terrible tragedy' came in quickly, including from some celebrities
MEP Daniel Hannan, an Englishman well-known to American audiences, vented his political spleen
Post-speech glow: After 16 minutes of talk about infrastructure spending, Obama grinned for cameras while other world leaders focused on the mass-murder
Post-speech glow: After 16 minutes of talk about infrastructure spending, Obama grinned for cameras while other world leaders focused on the mass-murder
Debris: Smoke rises up at the plane's crash site near the village of Grabovo, Ukraine on Thursday afternoon
Debris: Smoke rises up at the plane's crash site near the village of Grabovo, Ukraine on Thursday afternoon
Lunch as usual: With his national security advisers tracking developments in Ukraine, Obama greeted people at the Charcoal Pit restaurant in Wilmington, Delaware before delivering his speech
Lunch as usual: With his national security advisers tracking developments in Ukraine, Obama greeted people at the Charcoal Pit restaurant in Wilmington, Delaware before delivering his speech
Traveling in Denver, this reporter heard gasps from guests watching a hotel lobby television as Obama spoke. 
One remarked: 'A tragedy is when you lose control and fly into a mountainside. This is mass-murder. What a disappointment.'
'His distance from reality is just bizarre,' said another.
Daniel Hannan, the British member of Europe's parliament who has rankled liberals in a series of American speaking tours, tweeted his own disgust.
'Listening to Obama's statement [on] the airline tragedy, my mind went back to Reagan 31 years ago,' he wrote.
'How America's leaders have shrunk.'
Obama finished his speech by saying 'Let’s build some bridges. Let’s build some roads. God bless America.'
Matt Viser, a Boston Globe reporter on the scene, tweeted a devastating reaction.
'Obama, in sum: A plane crashed. It may be tragic. We're trying to see if US citizens were on board. Hey, great to be in Delaware!' he wrote.
The president's next stop after Wilmington was New York City, where he headlines a Democratic Party fundraiser Thursday evening. Tickets for the cozy event go for as much as $32,400.
News of the plane crash reached the White House before Obama left for Delaware on Thursday morning. He ignored a question, shouted by a reporter as he departed, asking what he knew about the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777.
 
    Business Insider reported that the Kremlin's official description of a Thursday morning phone call between Obama and Russian president Vladimir Putin said Obama learned of the crash from him.
    House Speaker John Boehner released a brief statement that focused exclusively on the plane crash without combining it with domestic policy.
    'Many innocents were killed today. It is horrifying, and we await the facts,' he said. 'Right now, we should all take a moment to reflect, count our blessings, and convey our prayers to the loved ones of the victims.'
    Arizona Republican Sen. Jon McCain reacted to the crash with deep-seated anger.
    'It's an outrageous and incredible act of terrorism,' he said, according to Roll Call. 'People [should] be held responsible, and not only the people directly responsible, but indirectly,'
    Later on MSNBC he told host Andrea Mitchell that 'if it is the result of either separatist or Russian actions mistakenly believing this was a Ukrainian war plane, I think there’s going to be hell to pay – and there should be.'
    Vice President Joe Biden spoke to Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko to offer U.S. assistance to help determine what happened in crash, the White House said.
    President Obama also spoke with Poroshenko, and with Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak while he was aboard Air Force One.
    Next stop: fundraiser! Obama went from Delaware to New York City for a Democratic cash-haul at Trump Place Apartments, where approximately 30 supporters are contributing up to $32,400 each
    Next stop: fundraiser! Obama went from Delaware to New York City for a Democratic cash-haul at Trump Place Apartments, where approximately 30 supporters are contributing up to $32,400 each
    'Tragedy, atrocity, potay-to, potah-to'
    After learning of the missile attack on MH17 from Russian president Vladimir Putin, Obama kept his lunch plans in Delaware
    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters late on Thursday that Obama spoke with Secretary of State John Kerry when he arrived in New York to discuss the plane crash, as well as Israel's ground offensive in the Gaza strip.
    'Afterward,' Earnest said, 'the president convened a secure call with senior members of his national security team ... The president was briefed on our ongoing efforts to support the Ukrainian government and a prompt international investigation into what took place.'
    CIA Director John Brennan, White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Stephanie O'Sullivan, Deputy National Security Adviser Lisa Monaco and Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes all took part.
    Malaysia Airlines tweeted Thursday that it lost contact with the flight as it was traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over Ukrainian airspace.
    A Ukrainian official said the plane had been shot down as it flew over the country.
    Both the Ukrainian government and the pro-Russia separatists it is fighting in the region denied shooting down any plane. The fate of the 280 passengers and crew was not immediately known.
    Anton Gerashenko, an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister, said on his Facebook page the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet). He said it was hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher, which can fire missiles up to an altitude of 22,000 meters (72,000 feet).
    The Donetsk region government said a plane crashed Thursday near a village called Grabovo, which it said is currently under the control of armed pro-Russian separatists.
    But Poroshenko said his country's armed forces didn't shoot at any airborne targets.
    'We do not exclude that this plane was shot down, and we stress that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take action against any airborne targets,' he said. 'We are sure that those who are guilty in this tragedy will be held responsible.'
    Separatist leader Andrei Purgin told The Associated Press that he was certain that Ukrainian troops had shot the plane down but gave no explanation or proof for his statement.
    Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it 'has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace.'
    It was the second time that a Malaysia Airlines plane was lost in less than six months. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared in March while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It has not been found, but the search has been concentrated in the Indian Ocean far west of Australia.
    Debris: A part of the wreckage of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane is seen after it crashed
    Debris: A part of the wreckage of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane is seen after it crashed
    There have been disputes over planes being shot down earlier in the region.
    On Wednesday evening, a Ukrainian fighter jet was shot down by an air-to-air missile from a Russian plane, Ukrainian authorities said Thursday, adding to what Kiev says is mounting evidence that Moscow is directly supporting the separatist insurgents.
    Security Council spokesman Andrei Lysenko said the pilot of the Sukhoi-25 jet hit by the air-to-air missile was forced to bail after his jet was shot down.
    Pro-Russia rebels, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for strikes Wednesday on two Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 jets. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said the second jet was hit by a portable surface-to-air missile, but added the pilot was unscathed and managed to land his plane safely
    Moscow denies Western charges that is supporting the separatists or sowing unrest in its neighbor. The Russian Defense Ministry couldn't be reached for comment Thursday about the Ukrainian jet being shot down.

    58 comments:

    Nic said...

    The face of the matter is, he doesn't have to worry about running again so optics are moot. jmo

    Nic said...

    *fact

    ugh

    Anonymous said...

    Did anyone really expect anything different from him?

    Anonymous said...

    BO is losing it more and more obviously.
    Maybe he needs reprogramming?

    Jen Ow said...

    Obama never fails to prove himself an obnoxious boob.

    He can't even PRETEND to be a respectable human being....you know, one who is more concerned about the innocent lives lost today, than his own agenda.

    He makes no apologies for his lawless tyrannical behavior. Instead, he complains about those who DO follow the law, and seek to stop his endless abuse of power.

    He is the epitome of arrogance.

    Anonymous said...

    " and it looks like...it may be.... A terrible tragedy" And -- leaving out information-- like oh, yeah I just spoke to Putin this morning about this. " it looks like"-- excess unneeded words. " it may be"--- really, really not comittmitting " a terrible tragedy" -- tragedy implying a mistake, an accident, super soft wording. No mention of --- terrorist act against civilians which may incite nations to war. Clearly, he has zero intentions of getting involved other than to offer our intelligence forces. America would have to have our planes shot over our mainland for him to even think of retaliation. I expect the missile shooters will be banned from the US. His immediate launch into his pre planned speech, further indicates this is a nonevent for him.

    Anonymous said...

    I find it odd the state department is so slow to confirm the number of Americans on board. They all had passports for international flight. It should be a matter of minutes to figure it out. I believe there is a reason for the delay.

    Maybe said...

    The Medford Mail Tribune reports Terri Horman filed a petition June 30 with the Douglas County Circuit Court to change her name to Claire Stella Sullivan.

    A hearing is scheduled for Monday, Aug. 4.
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/Terri-Horman-files-to-change-her-name-267530461.html?mobile=y

    Lemon said...

    He is who he is and he says who he is.
    I agree with Nic. He can tell the truth, now.

    If he gave a damn about dead Americans killed on foreign soil, he would sound like it.
    He would act like it.

    Anonymous said...

    His is an embarrassment to America. 2016 can't get here soon enough, but I'm afraid it will be too late by then.

    Nic poopybum said...
















    Anonymous said...

    obarma does'nt have a clue just like the fools who voted for the empty suit. no hope and only change that destroys the USA.

    Anonymous said...

    If the plane lost contact in amsterdam that means something was wrong lonh before it fell from the air. i still think it was made to crash be remote control and was no shot down by anybody.


    this sounds outragous i know - but i strongly believe obsma is literally not awake. i believe he is under hypnosis by cia mk ultra programing. he can read scripts but he can not react genuinely. and that is why his response and lack of response to place crash today occured. i voted for the guy. twice. i cried when he woni eas si into him. but i realize now he was tailor made by cia to apeal to me. i was duped. he is literally brainwashed. and maybe had brain surgery too. Just for kicks do some reasearch into it. you will be surprised how much evidence supports what im saying.

    Anonymous said...

    Yes time to retweak the robot. mini getaway for obama coming soon. maybe new head scars too.

    Anonymous said...

    I think fact that there was no prepared speech for obama on plane means it may very well have been an error - that the putin plane was intended target. and yes... i dont know what it is but there is for sure a big reason why they are not releasing passenger list.

    Anonymous said...

    Don't worry about Russia. Hillary pushed the reset button. The same low I Q folks that voted this incompetent liar in office will vote her in. She did such a good job as Sec. of State. Can't you see how more peaceful the world is because of these two incompetent liars. At least she gave back the stuff she stole from the White House. od help us

    Anonymous said...

    I wont be voting for hillary. i was going to until recently. now i see shes one of the bad guys. tho i dont know if there will be a candidate who isnt. Il be voting for the candidate with the least mk ultra alters. I really hope somebody can hold out.

    audpaud said...

    This report feel like a "reach"...I'm just not feeling the outrage.

    Peter Hyatt said...

    audpaud said...
    This report feel like a "reach"...I'm just not feeling the outrage.
    July 18, 2014 at 7:19 AM

    I agree. It was tactless but the response seemed imbalanced.

    Peter

    Anonymous said...

    Quoting Anonymous said...
    If the plane lost contact in amsterdam that means something was wrong lonh before it fell from the air. i still think it was made to crash be remote control and was no shot down by anybody.


    this sounds outragous i know - but i strongly believe obsma is literally not awake. i believe he is under hypnosis by cia mk ultra programing. he can read scripts but he can not react genuinely. and that is why his response and lack of response to place crash today occured. i voted for the guy. twice. i cried when he woni eas si into him. but i realize now he was tailor made by cia to apeal to me. i was duped. he is literally brainwashed. and maybe had brain surgery too. Just for kicks do some reasearch into it. you will be surprised how much evidence supports what im saying.

    July 18, 2014 at 3:17 AM



    Hi fellow Anon.

    I made the previous comment on BO needing reprogramming.
    I have seen the scars on his head and researched MK Ultra.
    Good to see I am not alone.

    Where did you see about the plane losing contact in Amsterdam?
    With so many false flags, it certainly would be a possibility here..

    Have you seen the pristine passport photo from the crash scene?

    ~mj said...

    My opinion is that many people are a bit too sensitive and are going to find fault no matter what the President says or does at the end of his term.

    Just because we have the right to say something doesn't mean we ought to. I find more fault with the mind frame of many people who did not vote for Obama and their brazen disregard for his position. Like it or not he is the President of the United States, voted into office by the very system most who are complaining hold dear. There is something to be said for supporting the leader in order to gain success as a whole, regardless of whether that leader was a personal choice or not. Constant criticism does not provide unity and without unity failure is a higher possibility.

    Peter Hyatt said...

    mj,

    the tweets that broadcasters did after the speech were disproportionate to the uncaring comments.

    This is one of the reasons I posted it, but perhaps I should have left the tweets in the article.

    Peter

    Anonymous said...

    hi anon 19:10

    yes I just looked at the passport pic, thanks I didn't know about it.

    http://heavy.com/news/2014/07/malaysian-airlines-crash-in-ukraine-russia-shot-down/

    hard not to remember when they found pristine passports and the base of twin towers.

    it's just hard to figure out -- I've come to realize there are false flags for which the motive really is very hard to see. especially at first. although no fake blood in this one, this seems as real a plane crash can be. I'd much prefer they just always used theatrics.

    what a strange time we live in. apparently a lot of people are seeing it. at least in parts.. hopefully being aware, as opposed to totally duped will give us a great deal of leverage.

    Anonymous said...

    I read about it losing contact in amsterdam in Peter's post above.

    Anonymous said...

    I respect your choice to have closed lips, but we are far beyond unity with a dishonest monarch running our country. I feel it's time we DO speak up before he pushes us even further toward the demise of the USA...which seems to be a planned assault. He has zero respect for our Constitution & We the People and brainwashes low information voters with false claims for personal benefit; therefore have no respect for him. Hopefully you can respect my opinion/fact.

    Jennifer Wallace Barnes said...

    Just to play devil's advocate...kinda like when Bush sat listening to kindergartners knowing terrorists had just blown up the world trade center building.

    Anonymous said...

    No, not the same at all. Did you want him to announce to the 5 year olds, what happened? Abruptly get up and walk out, causing confusion and upset to the kids, or remain calm to and for them?

    I know you said "devil's advocate", so just providing my $.02 on the matter.

    Jen Ow said...

    Hi Peter,

    As far as the disproportionately harsh response, it's a cumulative effect. (For me at least.)

    Obama ALWAYS displays his arrogance and ineptitude, regardless of the situation. Each new instance just piles another layer on top of the already overflowing compost heap known as Obama.

    Hi MJ-

    I agree with you that I'm quick to condemn Obama for his every mis-step. He is so generous in providing ammunition for criticism. By his own words he is incompetent, and the last to know about every crisis. (As if I believe that!)

    I am surprised that you think he should be respected based solely on his position. He has done nothing to earn respect, and he has disgraced the office repeatedly. He does not behave like a president, he behaves like a dictator.

    HE has bypassed any opportunity for 'unity', with his assertion that he will impose his agenda without the support of congress, or the American people.

    He thumbs his nose at our laws, and illegally imposes HIS will, at the expense of American taxpayers. That isn't respectable behavior.

    I agree there is something to be said for putting aside personal politics, and opinions, to move our country in the right direction. Someone should teach Obama how to do that!

    Anonymous said...

    speaking of Bush sitting in classroom as planes hit, anybody else realize the words the kids are reading!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gllsgu1HoFA

    Kite
    hit
    plane
    steel
    must

    Peter Hyatt said...

    Jennifer Wallace Barnes said...
    Just to play devil's advocate...kinda like when Bush sat listening to kindergartners knowing terrorists had just blown up the world trade center building.
    July 18, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    It's not Devil's Advocate. Neither responded well.

    I also think the over-reaction is due to acute animosity towards Obama's belief system and imposition upon the nation.

    Big Russian said...

    Two questions:
    Who has the capability to shoot down a civilian aircraft in this area?

    Who has the most to gain by this act?

    Anonymous said...

    Hi Anon 12:52 and !2:53

    Yes, the passports did remind me of the 9-11 false flag.

    And yes, it is much better like in SH when they faked the deaths.

    As for the statement about the flight, "Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed that it 'has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace". I think that the "from Amsterdam" was for identifying purposes, but that it was last heard from over the Ukraine. I may be mistaken of course.

    In my view, Republicans and Democrats are the same in essence, puppets of the NWO, labeled to give the illusion of choice.

    Let's hope being aware is an advantage, sure beats being totally hoodwinked I`d say.

    Anonymous said...

    yeah I'm not sure how to beat "them" but they sure love secrecy so maybe knowing is a good portion of dismantling their power. we need a national/world wide revolution of awareness for starters.

    I can see what you mean about losing contact when it went down. maybe I just misunderstood.

    btw did you notice how obama worked in the word catipillar in his speech in delaware yesterday? it's symbolic for mk ultra monarch programing - catipillar to fully programmed butterly. I'm sure there's a reason he said it we aren't catching and not a coincidence.. it's such a loaded word for them. .

    Anonymous said...

    Good catch on the caterpillar reference, no coincidence for sure.

    Yes, they love secrecy but also rubbing things in our faces, "hidden in plain sight". Have you seen Lenon Honor's vid on Rihanna's "Umbrella"? Eye-opening for me when I first saw it.

    I am familiar with the Monarch butterfly symbolism, broken mirrors, and one-eyed pose, largely thanks to Vigilant Citizen.

    We saw the predictive programming with 9-11. As you said in pp, much of this sounds so outrageous that many dismiss it out of hand, due to effective mind control of what is and isn't "possible".

    After realizing the massive cover up of 9-11, nothing surprises me anymore. And here with the rush to blame Putin, it makes me suspect a false flag. As if the powers-that-be valued human life..

    .

    Anonymous said...

    Ill check out vigilant citizen and lonon honors vid. i only figured all this out this month. its been blowing my mind. i think the beatles wre mk ultra. maybe irs obvious but i just figured it out couple days ago. its so many places.

    Anonymous said...

    And yeah plain sight. at least for them ti communicate broadly with eachother we can always have a chance of seeing it too.

    Anonymous said...

    It is mind-blowing, at least paradigm-shifting.

    I grew up with the music of the counterculture, and discovering that it too was all a manipulation was a revelation.

    Turns out everything or almost everything was a lie.
    Check out-- Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation-- if you haven't already. Not an easy realization but oh well.

    As they say, citizens are deceived en masse, but enlightened one at a time. All the best to you.

    Anonymous said...

    Ill check out laurel canyon. thanks all the best to you too. and evetybody alse as well. i gotta say i cried a lot as i really realized the bulk of it. i felt terrified. maybe thats appropriate and will return. but i alsi felt less anxiety than i have in a long time. realizing things i never would have guessed in a million years but actually bring a lot of clarity to all sorts of things. its like pulling back the curtains. terrifying but also clarifying. the evils from history books didnt go away. they just adapted and got more clever. reminds me bsck in school if a boy had a crysh on you they might do dome research find out what you like then talk to you like they like it too. and you might "fall" for it. think its meant to be instead of a systematic strategy. but back then it just meant the guy liked you and not too much harm done. now... they get your number and give you the illusion of natural attraction to music, leaders etc... Slide in some thoughts and plans you had no previous intention of taking in. And you are f*****.

    Anonymous said...

    Course if we figured it out then we csn figure it out again.

    Anonymous said...

    In the 70's I said while the media spoke of the Pravada controlled news, I was aware it was happening here in the good USA. They (those in power) told us what they wanted us to believe.

    In Journalism class we read about Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud. He controlled public relations for corporations and for government. They worked with psychologist and scientist to study how to influence the masses. Everything was planned to get us to buy products and to mind control the masses. Bernays used Freud's ideas as a way to understand how to enter into the mind of the masses and get them to do things based on subliminal messages, identification, and appealing to deep desires in humans. That he was praised for his works was absolutely unbelievable to me.

    Michael Tsarion lectures on symbols used by the power elites and like you wrote, they allow some secrets to be out in the open. This second Malaysian plane horror, and the rapid speed with which this government is blaming Putin definitely makes one wonder what is the real end goal here.

    Being awake to the lies is one huge step. One wants to think it couldn't be, but everything shows a steady, consistent attempt to destroy this country from within, and take our military where we don't belong for resources and profits for the elites. False facts presented via media to get citizens on board.

    Anonymous said...

    I like to think about the idea that best laid plans -- don't do as planned, they clearly are trying to work us like they did in great depression, both world wars, etc. but times are changing - the internet allows for people to say their "crazy" ideas and for others to say - you know that might not be so crazy -- and for collective conversation to go on. 911 would never have been questioned on such a wide, collective scale were in not for the internet. and people are so savvy these days about the practice of photoshop, and other lies in visual information. I do think we are adapting to the concept that we can not trust blindly. also it's interesting how "they" attempt to appeal to our needs as a culture so much - for example we did get to elect a black president, which did amazing things for the psyche of our nation as a whole. unfortunately he turned out to a a plant by the CIA meant to lure us into their cotrol, well --- it's a two way street if they try to please us while messing with us. they do not have all the power. and nobody picks an enemy they don't see as a worthy adversary. they want to take over the pubic -- they must feel threatened by the public in the first place.

    Anonymous said...

    there are flaws in the foundation of their intentions. total power is boring. thats when the game ends. I thinkwhat they really want is an endless war with the public just like they wanted an endless war with vietnam, etc. theyv'e got the mentality of spoiled kids. batting around a box of kittens for their entertainment.

    hmmm. so intrestin about freuds brother, im gonna read up on ot thanks.

    Anonymous said...

    nephew

    Anonymous said...

    Quoting
    Anonymous said...
    What will you do when the evil black man is no longer president?

    July 19, 2014 at 6:56 PM


    Utterly irrelevant.

    He is just a figurehead.
    R's and D's are the same.
    Shadow government is in charge.

    BostonLady said...

    Conspiracy theories are just that. There is no truth. No facts.

    9/11 was very real. This plane being downed is very real. Not everything burns up. It the plane was hit with the missle, depending upon where it hit and how, the plane would not necessarily blow it. It could blow a hole in the fuselage. This would bring the plane down and items could fall out prior to any crash. So stop with the conspiracy theories. You insult the real people who were killed in this act of terror.

    As far as Obama, he is the worst President and is ruining the country. The fact that he thinks because Congress will not do what he wants, he will take the dictator route and just make his own law proves that point. He is bypassing our legislature.

    Anonymous said...

    Boston Lady, you might want to watch "Century of Self" for free on the internet. It's about Edward Bernays's career. He shamelessly admits to using mass mind control by government agencies and advertising.

    In sales they refer to the art of persuasion, but mass hypnotism is an evil ploy of those who wish to keep the sheeple asleep. The power structures are obsessed with the need to control because on some level they feel threatened, but I think there is more to it. One woman who worked as an aid for the Bush family after she completed college, put it this way, to them (the powerful by "some special right") we are "eaters." They see the regular folks as eaters. What does that tell you? No soul inside, they are unaware and dangerously misguided, that is what it tells me.

    Anonymous said...

    For decades I've been saying not much difference whether we get a "D" or an "R" for president. They are the elite power structure working for someone other than the America people. Why has America been on a sad and terrible decline? Systematic and planned, imho. This is not a conspiracy theory, this is common sense. One can "see" how people are going over the edge like never before. Coincidence? Look at the pollution of images that young people are barraged with, the violent video games, stealing people's retirement funds, control of the narrative by government and media, etc. etc.

    BostonLady said...


    There is satellite proof that the launcher was put into place to shoot down the plane. I read that on Twitter the day it happened. WSJ just published this article. It's NOT a stupid conspiracy.

    U.S. Points to Russian Missile Connection in Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Crash

    New U.S. intelligence assessments indicate that Moscow likely provided pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine with sophisticated antiaircraft systems in recent days, matching evidence put forward by Ukraine and bolstering charges that Russia was the source of the weapon that shot down Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -11.11% Flight 17 this week, killing 298.

    U.S. officials say they now suspect that Russia supplied the rebels with multiple SA-11 antiaircraft systems by smuggling them into eastern Ukraine with other military equipment, including tanks.

    Further, U.S. officials believe the systems were moved back across the border into Russia following the shoot down of the jetliner, buttressing what Ukraine charges is an attempt by the rebels and their Russian advisers to cover up their involvement in the crash.


    http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/u-s-intel-points-to-russian-rebel-missile-connection-in-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash-1405816389-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwOTExNDkyWj

    Anonymous said...

    Boston Lady, there are plenty of conspiracy FACTS.

    Take a look at the footage of Building 7 falling symmetrically and at near free fall speed into its own footprint and remember, it sustained limited asymmetrical damage and was never hit by any plane. Impossible without explosives, a scientific fact.

    Heck, the owner of the building is on video saying the decision was made to "pull" it and a countdown was filmed before it fell. And the BBC announced it had collapsed minutes before it actually did. FACTS

    Why do you think so many architects and engineers have gone on record questioning the official account, a conspiracy theory par excellence, you know, the one about the Arabs with the box cutters? Now that is a whopper of a conspiracy theory and I bet you believed that one since it came from the "authorities".

    There are plenty of conspiracy facts, unfortunately. MSM just isn't going to reveal them.


    Anonymous said...

    nobody thinks 911 wasn't real. many many people died, 3 buildings fell to the ground.

    the question is not was it real, but did the government lie about how it occurred ,did they cover up evidence and purposefully assist in the attack.

    overwhelming evedience demonstrates the american givernmet assisted in the attack on iits own people in order to inspire the country to enter war.

    Anonymous said...

    just question more. you don't have to believe "theories" anymore than you have to believe CNN. bt question more - there is a lot more to these major events than is readily presented,

    Jen Ow said...

    Believing in conspiracy theories is an attempt to create the illusion of order and control, and make sense out of chaos. It's preferable to some to believe that a tangible force of evil is behind all of bad going on in the world, than to believe we are all randomly at the mercy of some disgruntled nut job and his assault rifle, or that nearly 300 civilians were shot down by mistake. (It is a conflict zone after all!)

    Tragedy is a lot easier to process when there is a 'reason' behind it, whether the reason is real, or imagined.

    Some articles on the topic:

    http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/conspiracy_theory_psychology_people_who_claim_to_know_the_truth_about_jfk.2.html

    Anonymous said...

    by that same logic it would e better if we never discovered germs. or that lead is toxic, or that certain people are behind the disapearance / muder of others,

    there ARE explanations for bad events, there are cause and effects. maybe for you it feels better to say - just accept it could never be known.

    there are accidents and there are intentional secretive acts, sometimes one can be disused as the other, in fact many times.

    Jen Ow said...

    Hi Anon 1:05

    I am baffled by your comparison. Believing some omnipotent force like the Rothschilds are behind everything, and that they and the illuminati are sending you, and others, coded messages through music videos, and by using certain words in a speech, is in NO WAY like discovering the link between germs and illness, or the dangers of lead???

    Conspiracy theories are not about cause and effect, such as germs and illness. They favor the most far-fetched and sensational fantasy theory, over the logical explanation.

    -Biomedical researchers are highly trained professionals.

    -Those who propagate conspiracy theories are...not.

    Rather, they are akin to snake oil salesmen, capitalizing on circumstance to sell their special brand of manipulation.

    Since this is a Statement Analysis site, I have to ask...have you applied the principles of SA to the sites you have mentioned, and the information they contain?

    Anonymous said...

    Is it logical that people kill, maim, lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, and violate the rights of other? It is NOT logical to me. These things come out of a shadow side, and there are those who don't want to think more deeply about our human motivations, about the dark things that crop out of the human. The words we use are motivated by something? That is what this site is demonstrating, the brain (mind) is not made to lie, and does not want to lie; So it leaks the truth.

    Humans are complex being,s we cannot see all of who we are under a microscope. We have a soul, a mind, and that to me is as real as microbes. Is it illogical? No, it is part of the mystery of life.

    To say there is an orchestrated plan to control the masses through constructed narratives, through changing the definition of words is not conspiratorial. Today, National Security means it's permissible to snoop on every American for no reason whatsoever as long as you label it, Nation Security. Any one with intelligence, with a sense of moral decency, and fearlessness to face the facts, can see this.

    Statement Analysis works on the premise humans were designed to want to tell the Truth. To me this principle shows we were made to be our noble Self, and not our shadow part. The shadow side gives itself over partially or fully to false ideals and values. Men in power ruled by their dark, shadow side can do much harm to hundreds of millions of people. They will do so without a twinge of conscience as long as their aims are met.

    Digital technology can manufacture voice matching, photoshop pictures, manufacture birth certificates, etc etc. The rule of journalism is verify, verify, verify. When despots (or semi-despots) arise, journalist are reigned in, or must follow the dictates of the ruling party.

    Anonymous said...

    I feel you. seriously. when I first saw postings around that beyonce was really posessed by the devil and Jayz was her illuminati handler, I was like -- ha. it's a joke. those people are awesome artists - somebodies always gonna hate.

    and that didn't change for a while - that feeling/response. really - I didn't even know what they were talking about by "illuminati" and I don't believe in the devil so I was not in the least taking it seriously. not even by a shade.

    then on 4th of july, as some themed patriotic all day activity -- I listened to lots of songs about loving USA which then led to looking up songs that were written after 911, cause that is like a specific time of heightened patriotim esp in country songs, etc-- and I was just enjoying this way of celebrating 4th of july.

    then in my google searching - I came accross a movie called loose change. it's about 9/11. I decided to relax and watch it as I'd never seen it, and it was the first conspiracy theory made about 911. I'd never thought it was an inside job, I was just watching for entertainment.
    but watching -- I realized there are centain thinga that made it i,possible for the planes to have been the only reasons the twin towers and building 7 fell. there's had to have been some kind of explosives at the base of the buildings. That was the only undeniale fact I surmised, the rest -- who was to blame -- seemed muddled -- a lot o f possible leads but still muddled - but then the second thing that became undeniable clear was that the us governmet refused to investiate the fact that there had to be explosives at the base of all three buildings. and they went to great lengths to dissalow any further investigation.

    this made me realize ------ there is absolutely more to the story, I don't know what it is but there is more.


    which started me on a long journey of research. a couple weeks really, of constant reading, so I won't type it all out here for you.

    but it it did lead me to the rothschilds and they are not an omnipresent force -- they are a family. they are humans, who own some crazy amount of stuff. theres no mystecism there. although they seem to be closely tied to satanism -- but that's maybe for another discussion.

    at thr same time I learned about this horrific CIA program called MK Ultra, there's no debate this exists -- you can read all about it, clintin made a public apology for it dung his presidency. its about mind control -- torture and teaching victims to spilt their personalitis to that they can be controlled through hypnosis. there are indicators of various branches of this program that can me seen in victims behavior. once you undetrstand what they are and start looking for it the evidence is overwhelming.

    if somebody just posted this theory -- and I hadn't done any of the research -- I'd give them a harder tme than you are giving me. I get it, its too fantacstic to be believeable.

    but I'd suggest investigating for yourself before you dismiss it,

    Jen Ow said...

    Hi both Anons 1:58-

    Your comments posted at the exact same time so I will just address them together.

    First, I guess the answer is no, as to whether you have applied the principles of SA to these websites, or documentaries? If you are interested in the truth behind these matters, then why not apply this tool? It may help to seperate the truth from fiction.

    Secondly, the first comment speaks of the complexity of human behavior. Yet, believing in a conspiracy where a 'shadow' entity is pulling the strings on the entire world is obvious simplification of extremely complex issues.

    Lastly, please don't think I'm giving you a hard time, your free to believe whatever you want. I posted the articles hoping you would read them with an open mind and possibly recognize some of the reasons people are attracted to these theories. It's human nature to crave predictability, and understanding of the unknown.


    Anonymous said...

    Jen,

    My comment was the first Anon 1:58. It was never my intention to connect conspiracy with shadow forces. The shadow self is present in everyone, why the world is asleep to what really motivates and dominates their beliefs, thoughts and actions. These are things taught in psychology. Edward Bernays was a public relations man who used his uncle's understanding of the subconscious mind to mold public/mass opinions and to get people to buy products and support causes, and certain lifestyle choices by using imagery and slogans. This has nothing to do with conspiracy. This is FACT. Edward Bernays blatantly and proudly informed the public of his manipulations! His exploits are public record.

    My point is to show how much people may not be aware of the forces that influence them, shape their beliefs and opinions. A journalist can be compromised in his ability to deliver the REAL facts to the public. That is my point. We should be able to trust our government. However, the government can only be as good as the people who run it. Like children we need to retain our ability to question, explore and search out the truth. Off of soapbox now. :)