Sunday, October 26, 2014

"Mama June" , Daughter, and TLC Statements

Various media outlets are now reporting that the man "Mama June", from "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" 'reality' television show from the 'Learning' Channel, was the same man who had molested her own daughter. 

Statement Analysis of her denial indicated deception.  Below, from DailyMail.com website, is a quote from her daughter, as well as photos which would appear to confirm that she was, as her statement showed, in a relationship with him, 10 years after he molested her daughter.  There are reports of more than one victim.  

TLC has cancelled the show, in spite of having already taped the entire season.  Many question how long TLC has known about this, and whether or not they would have aired the show had they not feared bad publicity. 

They certainly don't fear being accused of "bad taste."  Please note that I have also highlighted the statement of TLC regarding children, and added Statement Analysis in bold type. The article exerts are in plain type.  



'I believe she is seeing him and hanging around him. I'm hurt. 
'I think me and Mama’s relationship may well be over.'

Note that she "believes" her mother is seeing him and that "belief" is associated with what her mother may have been doing, while she "thinks" her and her mother's relationship may be over.



Given the nature of childhood sexual abuse, and the life sentence of pain imposed upon the victim, it is, for most of us, unthinkable that the mother would betray her own child for her own emotional wants.  

The "belief" and "thought" may have been, since the time of the statement, confirmed for her.  Mother-daughter ties are very difficult to break.  


Radar report that Anna was abused by Mark, 53, in 2002 and 2003.
He was indicted in June 2003 for 'aggravated child molestation and aggravated sexual battery on his young victim' but the case was dismissed some time later.

Just released: Mark was released from prison in March after being serving for 10 years for the aggravated molestation of another child
Just released: Mark was released from prison in March after being serving for 10 years for the aggravated molestation of another child
Registered: The 53-year-old's crime is public record on the Georgian sex offender registry, as part of his release requires him to keep authorities constantly updated on his whereabouts
Registered: The 53-year-old's crime is public record on the Georgian sex offender registry, as part of his release requires him to keep authorities constantly updated on his whereabouts
However, a year later he was sent to prison for 10 years of aggravated child molestation charges in a different case in Spalding County. 

Released in March, the 53-year-old was imprisoned for 'forcing a girl to perform oral sex on him' according to TMZ. 

Despite June's denials, TMZ report that child services and the local Sheriff's Department were notified of the reports shortly after the website first broke the story. 

TMZ also reports that not only was June secretly dating McDaniel for several months, she also purchased gifts - including a used car - for him. 
June allegedly went shopping for the car last month, visiting at least one dealership near her home in McIntyre, Georgia.
U.S. network TLC, which airs the reality show, apparently 'got wind' of the secret shopping trips.
Taking into account other 'compelling evidence' and a photograph published by TMZ showing June and Mark in bed together, TLC took steps to cancel the reality show.
The network has reportedly offer counselling to Anna.
In a statement TLC said: 'TLC has cancelled the series Here Comes Honey Boo Boo and ended all activities around the series, effective immediately.
The picture that started it all: TMZ first reported the pair was dating and released this photo of them partying in a hotel room last month
The picture that started it all: TMZ first reported the pair was dating and released this photo of them partying in a hotel room last month

Here is the statement from The Learning Channel: 



'Supporting the health and welfare of these remarkable children is our only priority. TLC is faithfully committed to the children's ongoing comfort and well-being.'


Notice that it is their "only" priority, which would preclude all other "priorities" as non-existent.  This does not appear to be in response to a question about other priorities, but it is difficult to understand and believe that a television program has but a single priority.  This, alone, will cause readers to question the credibility of the statement. 

Note that they claim to be "faithfully" committed, in the present tense, making their commitment, itself, sensitive. 

Since it is in the present tense, it would be interesting to learn how a canceled program will show a "faithful commitment" to the children.

Note order:

1.  health
2.  welfare
3.  comfort
4.  well-being

How is the cancellation of the program going to impact the "health, welfare, comfort and well-being" of these "remarkable" children?

This should be viewed in light of what the show, itself, is, and why it has had the popularity it has displayed that it has had successive seasons.  




Following the cancellation, June posted a three minute video on Facebook which appears to have been taken on her phone.


'I just got a phone call this morning from TLC and as of right now there will be no more production of the show,' she says, looking down and avoiding eye contact with the camera.
She went on to deny reports she is romancing McDaniel. 'The statement of me dating a sex offender is totally untrue,' she said.

Note that "as of right now" indicates that she may have had hope to change the decision of the network.
Note also that it is not just "untrue", but "totally" untrue.  This is not to deny that they were dating, or seeing each other in the recent past, (excluding 10 years ago) and it makes "untrue" sensitive to the subject.  


'The statement of me dating a sex offender is totally untrue': The 35-year-old continued to deny having a relationship with convicted child sex offender saying, 'I would not ever, ever, ever put my kids in danger'
'The statement of me dating a sex offender is totally untrue': The 35-year-old continued to deny having a relationship with convicted child sex offender saying, 'I would not ever, ever, ever put my kids in danger'


'Pumpkin has openly said that I did not, that I've not dated him, and also his son.'

Note that she quotes "Pumpkin" rather than making her own reliable denial.  



She continued: 'I would not ever, ever, ever put my kids in danger, I love my kids too much. That is my past. I have not seen that person in 10 years and don't want to see that person.'

Note the indications that she has the need to avoid issuing a reliable denial including the future conditional, "would not" and the "ever, ever, ever" repetition. 

With deception indicated, note the distancing language of "that" person, and the additional language of "don't want to see that person" as unnecessary, making it very important, as it shows that the subject has a need to persuade.

Dishonest people have a need to persuade more than honest people. 


With their livelihood now in jeopardy, the family matriarch took the time to thank the show's fans for their continuing support over the years.
Facebook message: The 35-year-old family matriarch took to social media on Thursday to inform fans, 'I want to make a post trying to clear up the rumors remember you can't believe everything you read!'
Facebook message: The 35-year-old family matriarch took to social media on Thursday to inform fans, 'I want to make a post trying to clear up the rumors remember you can't believe everything you read!'
'We just want to thank, from the bottom of our hearts, the support that we've had from our fans since May 2012,' she smiled 'The experience has been awesome to us. The girls have been able to do things that they would not normally have [been able] to do.'
Though the show may be over, with the network confirming that the already-completed fourth season will not air, Mama June insisted it wouldn't be the last fans would see of the quirky family, who will continue to be active in their community.
'We are still going to do our Christmas display, if y'all choose to come out and meet the family still, to support our community,' she said. 'We're also going to keep updating throughout what's going on in our life.'
It's over: Here Comes Honey Boo Boo was cancelled by TLC on Friday in the wake of the sex offender scandal, the network has confirmed to MailOnline
It's over: Here Comes Honey Boo Boo was cancelled by TLC on Friday in the wake of the sex offender scandal, the network has confirmed to MailOnline
Calling it her 'truth video', saying that the network had 'kind of told us to hush-hush' up until now, the recently separated star also spoke of ending her relationship with partner of nine years, Mike 'Sugar Bear' Thompson.
The couple - who had a televised commitment ceremony last year - only announced their split last month, but it is understood Mama June may have already been dating Mark at the time.
'Me and Sugar Bear really have broke up but we are friends and we have stayed civil,' she insists of the father of her youngest child, Alana 'Honey Boo Boo' Thompson. 'We're better off friends than we were a couple.'
As yells in the background demand that she 'shut up', Mama June wraps up her confessional on the upbeat note that: 'Things happen for a reason in life and you live and learn.'
'She is all about the kids': Lauryn 'Pumpkin' Shannon, 14 - seen here in March 2013 - insists her mom and her ex 'haven't seen nor talked [to each other] in 10 years'
'She is all about the kids': Lauryn 'Pumpkin' Shannon, 14 - seen here in March 2013 - insists her mom and her ex 'haven't seen nor talked [to each other] in 10 years'
Tragically, this is not the only sex offender that Mama June has been linked to.
The father of Honey Boo Boo’s 17-year-old sister Jessica 'Chubbs' Shannon, Michael Anthony Ford, 37, who dated her mother just a few months before she became pregnant, is currently behind bars.
In 2008 he served more than two years in prison for the sexual exploitation of a child over the internet due to an offence committed in 2005.
According to prison documents, he was the charged with two more counts of sexual exploration of a child steaming from 2005 also, and is currently serving ten years for each charge. He is not expected to be released until 2026. 
Recent split: Last month, the reality matriarch and her partner on nine years, David Michael 'Sugar Bear' Thompson, revealed they had separated. The couple shared a televised commitment ceremony last year
Recent split: Last month, the reality matriarch and her partner on nine years, David Michael 'Sugar Bear' Thompson, revealed they had separated. The couple shared a televised commitment ceremony last year
Behind bars: The father of Honey Boo Boo’s 17-year-old sister Jessica 'Chubbs' Shannon, Michael Anthony Ford, is in prison for two counts of the sexual exploitation of a child. He is not expected to be released for another 10 years
Behind bars: The father of Honey Boo Boo’s 17-year-old sister Jessica 'Chubbs' Shannon, Michael Anthony Ford, is in prison for two counts of the sexual exploitation of a child. He is not expected to be released for another 10 years


Amazon will have a non-kindle version up soon:

Wise As a Serpent; Gentle As a Dove: Dealing With Deception

28 comments:

Bonnie Blue said...

If you look at the actual charges for this Monster, it was not ONLY forcing oral sex on a child, as quoted here. It was SODOMY also. There were four counts total.

Bonnie Blue said...

Here is the link to the document:

https://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/mark-mcdaniel_redacted_honeybooboo_story.pdf

WARNING: The document linked is disturbing.

tania cadogan said...

'The statement of me dating a sex offender is totally untrue,' she said.

This would cause me to ask what her definition of dating is?

She may wel have been seeing him but did not consider it dating.

That is my past. I have not seen that person in 10 years and don't want to see that person.'
Notice she refers to him as person (gender neutral and concealing identity)
Why not say man or even his name?

She cannot because there is evidence she has been seen with him including photographs of them togeather.
She cannot therefore make a reliable denial and it shows in the labnguage she uses.

It makes me wonder what she will do now the money train has ground to a halt?
Will she put her family first and distance herself from him after a mea culpa statement?

Will she put her own wants first and bugger the consequences, after all, any fame(or infamy) is better than none when you have been a tv staple(for some strange and perverse reason)

Will there be any criminal or civil consequences to her for allowing a sex offender access to her family?
Will the kids be take away from her for their own protection?

Child beauty pageants are by their very nature a beacon for paedophiles, will this be an end for them, at least for the family?

Saint Theresa said...

I don't watch this show but know enough about the family to comment on how sad this is. Obviously mama June has terrible self worth when it comes to who she feels she deserves and really bad judgment. Her one daughter was already molested by this man and this woman bought the bastard a car! Man alive! If I was the daughter I would be livid and destroyed by my mothers actions.
Sad all around. The young girls will see how much their mom caters to disgusting men while betraying the mother /daughter bond.

Anonymous said...

Bonnie Blue, that is indeed disturbing. What's even more disturbing is that case was dismissed!!! He went to prison for molesting in *another* case! Disgusting

Saint Theresa said...

Great post. You explained it all really well. I was thinking the same thing about Junes definition of "dating"...

Sigh...it's so desperate Her even having contact with the man! It's disgusts me to the utter core. I can't even look at a creep like him without wanting to wretch and gag. He makes me sick and she is the mother of one of his victims. The vile things this so called man did is totally unforgivable and he should not be In her life at all!
This is a very unwell woman. Who the f*** does this???

Bonnie Blue said...

Anonymous 3:56pm:

I knew it was dismissed.
Sometimes victim's of brutal crimes refuse to testify.

Who knows what happened in this case but if we find out that her mother had anything to do with charges being dismissed, then I think I'll lose it!

Sarah Highcove said...

It would seem that Mama June is continuing a horrific cycle, perhaps something happened to her as a child as well. She is doing her best to keep demented child predators in her life and her children's lives. Not a coincidence that her abused daughter ended up having a child as a teenager. Not a coincidence that Mama June wants her daughters to parade around in contest that attract such predators. If anything comes of this, I hope that it is that people open their eyes to what we accept as a society and permit to go on openly - dressing your children seductively in competitions, exploiting your children on TV, putting your children in the way of harm instead of protecting them. It's shameful that the show was a success and lead to this woman enabling predators and further damaging her daughters.

Anonymous said...

It really is nauseating to watch "mothers" like Mama June jeopardize their daughter's and son's well being for a "boyfriend." This case brings to our national attention how a mother is willing to do this while DENYING what she is doing! There are too many women like Mama June. Sadly, becoming a mother or father doesn't require emotional or mental intelligence. Who will protect these children?

Anonymous said...

Sounds ghastly! Who'd want to watch such a show? Apparently someone does or else this wouldn't have been the excuse for cancelling it. Or would it?

Is it not sad enough the situation at hand without trying to be opportunists? Is this why she was selected to be the star?

Trial by media. Getting rid of all those people with the one big eye in the center of their head and making loads of money doing so, getting people elected, getting more drungs and alcohol in the area to be consumed so there will be more Reality Try-outs. Everyone wants to be a star.

Kellie said...

And heeeere we go...

Mama June EXPOSES Honey Boo Boo to Child Molester

http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/26/mama-june-shannon-child-molestation-touching-honey-boo-pictures-photo/

Anonymous said...

"That is my past. I have not seen that person in 10 years and don't want to see that person."

This makes me wonder if she thinks he has changed. He is no longer "that person". Obviously, that is BS to me, but it's the first thing I thought.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
"That is my past. I have not seen that person in 10 years and don't want to see that person."

This makes me wonder if she thinks he has changed. He is no longer "that person". Obviously, that is BS to me, but it's the first thing I thought.
October 27, 2014 at 1:54 AM

This sounds right to me.

Peter Hyatt said...

I wish I had written it.

Because:

a. It makes me sound smart
b. How many times have we heard something like this!

I have found this not only in those who justify their relationship with in inappropriate person, but have heard it from individuals who wish to distance themselves from past transgressions, crimes, or something negative.

"I'm not that person, any longer" and so on.

It's a great point.

I shall now add it to the analysis, delete your comment and my comments so that (a) might be fulfilled!

thanks.

Peter



:)



PS: Choose a name

Peter Hyatt said...

Hobs also raised a point that I should have.

She is not "dating" him. Perhaps she considers herself "engaged"?

Given the new revelations about how, in the ten years in prison, she kept in contact, perhaps it is more than just "dating."

I do not trust TLC.

I think there may have been warnings given to her, over time, that she would lose the show.

If so:

She appears to have given up quite a lot of money for this man.

rob said...

My thought is that she is 'not dating him', not bringing him around her family/children, but instead just meeting him at motels for hook'ups.
Nothing wrong with that, in her world.

Suzanne said...

"That is my past. I have not seen that person in 10 years and don't want to see that person."

It's meant to seem like she's talking about the current molester that all the TLC controversy is about, but maybe in her head she is referring to the other molester (the one who fathered one of her children) when she uses "that person" in the statement?

Peter Hyatt said...

rob,

good point. That's common and once the couple get "comfortable", they begin to resent having to "sneak around" and will, sooner or later, be around family, kids, etc

Peter

Sus said...

This "situation" disturbs me all the way round.

I agree with posters above who state the mother may have been abused herself as a child. She certainly must have low self esteem to keep inviting abusers into her life...more sickingly into her daughters' lives.

I keep wondering about the pedophile she is now seeing. He knows the family is on national television. He knows they are in the public eye. He had to know association with him would endanger their livelihood, and puts him near children illegally. Sounds like a user and thrill-seeker to me. Narcissist? Sociopath?

Next, Honey Boo Boo: She and her family "earned" their own show because she stood out on Toddlers and Tiaras, or whatever the show's called. Honey Boo Boo and her family were the rudest and crudest, Honey Boo Boo could throw the biggest fits. She was put in front of a camera and told to be a brat. She was sent to events and talk shows and encouraged to be every parents nightmare. Now her show is dropped and she is rejected. Try to tame that monster!

Last, TLC and the film industry in general. They had to have known the family's history. They do background checks. They don't care. They do it for ratings and what the people want. Witness the Duck Dynasty fiasco, the Disney star meltdowns. It's a blurred line between acting and reality, and a child needs a strong, stable parent to help keep that straight. Unfortunately, Honey Boo Boo does not have that.

Kari said...

From a FoxNews article:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/10/27/mama-june-silent-after-more-photos-her-with-convicted-child-molester-surface/

Cardwell said when she was younger and McDaniel was dating her mother he "would try and touch me and all that stuff." After McDaniel went to jail, Cardwell said Shannon doubted her claims about McDaniel.

“A week or so after it happened, I talked to Mama and she was upset, crying and saying, 'I don't believe you, I don't believe you, why would you do this to me?'” Cardwell told the magazine. “And I was like, 'Mama, he did that to me and I can't do anything about it. You were never there to see it you were always at work.’”


I'm guessing when June says she is not dating a sex offender, it's because she thinks he was wrongly accused and isn't a sex offender at all.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's time to say goodbye to reality tv altogether. JMO.

Anonymous said...

OT but what does anyone make of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgCfCmO33TU&list=UUQrtsWjfqw9eFjCeFQQnB4A

Anonymous said...

He went to prison for abusing another girl. She brought her kids around him. There are pictures of her youngest with him. Her kids need to be taken for their protection. Why was there not some sort of protection order for him to leave that family alone. I understand that her case wasn't prosecuted but it could have been done. He has multiple victims and will most likely have more in the future. They don't tend to just wake up one day and never do it again. She is such a disgusting despicable person and a poor excuse for a mother for not believing her child.

Bayou belle said...

A picture exists showing him touching honey boo boo!!!Its on tmz also---why isn't she charged with child endangerment...him charged with being around children...where the hell is CPS and the Sugar Bear father person!!!Will you idiot low self esteem mothers quit living in denial and handing your children over to these monsters???Abused child or not...what parent knowingly brings a monster home to her children..and buys him a car??Sickening ....and all the words beyond that...protect your children you self-centered idiot of a woman!!!I can't even justify calling her a mother...its insulting to all the women in the world who protect and love their children.....come on CPS!!!

Jo said...

Sus, daughter was a minor and would be protected so they would not know that his victim was a family member. Also, he was not family so unless they did history on everyone they interacted with, they would not uncover this.
However, I doubt she ever cut ties with him and has most likely been with him since his release and they should have investigated that. He should have restrictions so his parole agent should be preventing him from being in a household with minor children. Especially in a household where the mother has previously excused his behavior and supported him over her daughter.

Her comments about "doing this to me" really makes me angry.

Nic said...

Poor kids.

very, very, very... ! Weakening much?

Maybe Mama June thinks 'dating' is going to dinner/the movies/romantic strolls and picnics. That there is a pic of them in bed and away from prying eyes, tell me maybe in her mind there is a difference between sleeping with someone (friends with benefits,) and going 'public'/dating.

Also, "that man". Maybe she has been convinced that he is not "that man" anymore. That he has changed.

Interesting that she never wanted to marry "Sugar Bear". He seemed decent and caring about her and the kids. (Yes, I watched it a couple of times...it's hard to turn away from a live circus. :0) ). Evidently, she has a bad case of Bad Boy syndrome.

I'm assuming that the authorities have not intervened? Why not?

Julie Moon said...

I never did think much of this woman, but now that all this has come out I can say, in my opinion, she's garbage and someone needs to save her children right this minute.

Do parents make mistakes? Sure they do. This is what intervention, education, and second chances are all about....but when a mother is such an idiot, such a horrible parent, that she sees no wrong in what she is doing, someone else needs to step in and save her kids.

This monster spent 10 years in jail for molesting a little girl. Her own daughter told her he molested her in more ways than one and the mom chose to blame the victim. Then as soon as the monster gets out of jail, this so called mother ditches the guy she just had a 'wedding' ceremony with, and gets right back with the monster. She struts around town there are pictures of her in bed with the dude at a motel, pictures of her buying him a car, house shopping with him, and pictures of him with her and her 9 year old and the foul monster has his hand on the 9 year old.

So....she's not dating him, she's just screwing him, sleeping with him, spending the money her kid earned her on him,.....she has disgusted me to no end. She gave up HOW MUCH MONEY from that tv show? She gave up how much of her daughter's possible career? She gave up relationships with her other daughter and grand kid....all for this piece of human garbage waste of skin oxygen-thief. Someone save Alana before it happens to her.

Arrrrrrrgh!

~mj said...

This is horribly sad. My sister-in-laws mother was this caliber of a woman. Ignored it, but knew it. Blamed the victim and thought more of her needs than her child. Disgusting. There needs to be a special sort of punishment for women like this. They are destroying lives and are directly responsible for perpetuating the circle of mal-adaptive behaviors that predators look for in a victim.

On a side note, as regards to the charge of sodomy... that can be oral sex. I wouldn't be able to speak specifically about this monsters charges as I am not directly involved, but I do know, from a local murder charge a couple years ago of a young woman that is dear to me, that when there has been forced oral sex, the charge appears as sodomy. It doesn't lessen the level of sickness of any a-hole that would do any of these behaviors to mere children - but it is worthy information.