Monday, February 9, 2015

Divine Status of Pathological Liars

In earlier articles, I have shown that pathological liars are those who hold you and I in contempt.  In fact, they hold the world in contempt.  

From much rehearsal, beginning in the first days of speech, the liar has learned to put himself, or herself in the following example, before others.  Liars may have claimed to have been disciplined by their parents, but it is not corrective discipline. 

A liar may be scolded, for example, for hitting her brother.  "Stop that!" when the brother protests.  But in interviewing parents I have learned that the scolding (or disciplinary action) took generally one of two forms:

a.  "Stop that because you are annoying me!" or
b.  "Stop that because it is not kind to your brother. "

The latter reveals impact upon another. 

Pathological liars do not care for the impact upon others.  They do not have the same empathy that you have towards victims.  They are only concerned about themselves. This follows logically with the claim, "liars hold the world in contempt."

The liar must believe that the person being lied to is inferior.  The person is not smart enough to figure out the lie. This begins early in life and just as speech goes by in milliseconds from the brain to the tongue, so it is within this same speed that the self-serving and self-protective habit of lying is seen. 

This is why statistics show that liars will harm you, harm your business, and harm society in general. 

The liar has no problem going from a lie to the demand of being trusted.  There is no true shame, nor contrite turning away from the lie.  



When Brian Williams was finally caught in his lie, he claimed he was "mistaken", rather than lying, and attributed noble motives:  he was trying to honor a veteran.  Always the hero, yet no one has asked about the NBC crew that was with him when he was not shot at.  

                          Why did they remain silent?

 Lance Armstrong did what liars most often do when accused: he attacked. 

He used his ill-gotten millions to destroy others lives, businesses  and reputations.  He could outlast anyone in court.  Even when "apologizing" he continued to deceive.  Now that no one wants to interview him, and there is a wake of destruction around him, he might be willing to talk.  

In March of 2008, Hillary Clinton said that she had come “under sniper fire” in Bosnia a decade earlier.  She said this knowing that there were reporters with her of whom she did not think would contradict her. 

When reporters  said that this was false, ​Clinton dug in her heels and kept to her story.  She maligned the reputation of others and attempted to undermine their credibility with "he said; she said" scenario.  Her strategy:  she was above all others and her "word" would stand.  

Then, as is sometimes the case, something else emerged to challenge her. 

 CBS offered a video proving it to be false. 

Hillary Clinton said, “I made a mistake. That happens. It shows I’m human.”

In declaring oneself "human", as the obvious, it is in comparison to something else. 

Divinity.  

Brian Williams was set forth as one to be trusted by the American people to deliver to them, nightly, the news of their world.  Each night, he "appeared to" 7 to 10 million people, at once. 

He has now "taken himself off the news for a few days" in yet another statement of extreme arrogance. 

He holds the world in contempt. 

He held the American public in contempt, thinking that they were too ignorant to catch on to his lies.  He held the NBC camera crew, fellow reporters, and security guards in contempt. They would be silent, or else. 

In business, using Statement Analysis in the interview screening process, money, heartache, law suits and reputations can all be saved, remedied, or avoided, but it is only when one understands the danger of the liar. 

Richard Blumenthal prosecuted how many lives? One who outright lies, and then attacks anyone who "dare" question him, in also god-like terminology, is to be now trusted that he did not pamper his career with false convictions?

Will people want to elect Hillary Clinton, who's language reveals the same pathological lying and divine-like status, holding the public in contempt, to the nation's highest office?

This contempt is what law enforcement not only encounters, but must use in the polygraph procedure:  touching upon the ego of the liar, who feels, with life long experience, "up to the challenge" of the lie detector. 

Then, like in the words of Justin DiPietro who said, while his child was "missing", that he "smoked" the polygraph.  

Without the training of Statement Analysis, which teaches to use exclusively the polygraph subject's own words, we will continue to see the guilty pass. 

Without such training in Human Resources, shrinkage, inappropriate unemployment, and the overall "gaming of the system", in and out of courts, will continue. 

If one cannot be trusted with the truth of being shot upon, or having one's own feet on the ground in a foreign country, how can one be trusted with greater responsibilities?


36 comments:

tania cadogan said...

off topic

There's been a dramatic twist in the shocking axe murders last month of members of the van Breda family in South Africa, with allegations that the surviving son’s injuries were self-inflicted, and in a further development authorities also believe he waited about four hours to call for help.

The Inquisitir has reported that Henri van Breda, 20, who was treated for only minor injuries, and called emergency services at 7.30am claiming his family was 'attacked by a guy with an axe' despite the investigators finding the brutal attack took place at 3am in the city of Stellenbosch.

The brutal assault left his teenage sister Marli, 16, bleeding and close to death on the balcony of her family's home in Stellenbosch, after her throat was cut and she'd suffered horrific head injuries.

Ms Breda's mother Teresa, 54, was found dead on the balcony and police discovered her deceased father Martin, 55, and brother Rudi, 22, in a bedroom.

Marli van Breda has recovered the ability to blink in response to questions which police had hoped could be vital to finding the killer.

Since then, police have revealed that it was at least four hours before her brother Henri reported the crime inside the high-security golf estate, about 50 kilometres east of Cape Town.

Remarkably, an audio recording of the five-minute phone call, obtained by eNews Channel Africa, seems to reveal Henri van Breda 'giggling' as he explains the details of the bloody attack.

'What kind of injuries are there?' a woman can be heard asking Henri, who responds: 'my family and me were attacked by a guy with an axe.'

When asked if they were unconscious, he responded, 'yes, and bleeding from the head', before what sounds like a faint chuckle is heard.

A cleaner who worked for one of the van Bredas' neighbours saw the young man, covered in blood, using his phone outside the house shortly after the attack.

It's also thought that a doctor who examined Henri van Breda after the murders, suggests the bruises and scratches on his arms were 'self-inflicted'.

Investigators have also confirmed that a 'brand new axe' was the weapon used.

In the meantime, everything appears to hinge on the future testimony of young Marli. According to her uncle, André van Breda, “She is getting better every day, she is moving her eyes to follow instructions.”

The young man's mental health has been under speculation since News24 reported he had undergone brain scans at an Australian hospital in 2014. However the results were revealed to have been negative and no further testing occurred.

The Times reported his uncle Her Breda, who has been caring for the 20-year-old, said his nephew is heart-broken.

He denied rumours the police wanted to keep him away from a private memorial service held for his deceased family - insisting he was simply hidden from the media's gaze.

Mr Breda added: 'For obvious reasons Henri is very heartbroken, and we will support him as the family.

tania cadogan said...

'We as a family are here for him, we will not disappoint him... I promise Henri I won't drop him.'

Marli remains in a stable but serious condition in hospital - but both family and friends have been barred from her bedside.

She underwent brain surgery after the attack and is being closely monitored by doctors, while police provide round-the-clock guard.

Devastated friends who knew the family in Australia paid tribute to the axe attack victims last week.

The family was based in Perth and the Sunshine Coast in Australia, before returning to South Africa in mid-2014.

Rudi's friends have been leaving tributes on social media, with his university friend Afif Norzal saying: 'You are a true blue genuine mate my friend.

'At times when I didn't have anyone to talk to, you would definitely make me feel the most welcome... I will always love you.'

Family friend Retha Dutton said Rudi was visiting his parents and siblings before he returned to university for the final year of his Masters of Engineering.

Mr Norzal told Daily Mail Australia in an interview: 'He was one of those guys - me being from a different culture - he was one of the first friends who genuinely connected with me.

'He was one of those people when he talked to you, you genuinely knew this guy wanted to be your mate. He was a really chilled and laidback person. He never stressed about anything.'

Henri returned to South Africa with his parents in mid-2014. He had been living at Trinity College where his brother was staying while studying at the University of Melbourne in 2013. Both attended Scotch College in Perth.

Ms Dutton told Daily Mail Australia: 'Teresa was a lovely mother... She was so happy all her children were with her, the boys had came from Australia (to visit).

'Henri moved back to South Africa in the middle of last year and he stayed with his family. She loved having him with her. She always used to tell me how wonderful it was.'

Her husband Martin was the managing director of Engel and Voelkers Australia, an international property firm which has offices in Perth and Queensland. Friends described him as a 'great man' with a bright future ahead of him.

Peter Armitage tweeted: '(He) was going to change SA (South Africa)... Folks, live for today. Tell people you love them today.'

Mr Armitage said Martin was the founder of Netstar and Woodhill College. Martin's golf club also paid their 'deepest condolences' to the family on Twitter.

Paul Freney, a friend and colleague of Martin's at Engel and Voelker, told Daily Mail Australia he and his wife Teresa were committed parents to their three children.

He said: 'I heard about it yesterday. A mate of mine rang me up and I nearly fell off my chair.

'They were very nice people. Martin loved his rugby. He was an avid Force supporter from Western Australia. We used to go to the rugby together, he loved his golf.'

'Teresa... looked after the business of running the home and all that sort of stuff, and I imagine had a fair bit to do.'

'He was a very intelligent man and he was obviously very wealthy, had a lot of money, but it was all earned through his own endeavours.'

tania cadogan said...

The van Breda family spent several years living in the Perth suburb of Claremont. Around 2012 they moved to the Sunshine Coast, where Engels and Volker had an office.

Ms Dutton, whose daughter is close friends with Marli, said she last saw the family on January 2 in South Africa. She said they were a 'very, very happy family'.

Marli was enrolled at Matthew Flinders Anglican College at Buderim while she was in Year 9. A school spokesman said the community was 'very sad to hear the tragic news'.

'Our thoughts and prayers are with Marli, her family and those who love her,' the spokesman said.

She is currently a student at Somerset College in South Africa.

The school's headmistress Meg Fargher, described the Year 11 student as a 'lovely, popular, clever girl' whose parents were very involved in the school, news24 reported.

Both schools are providing access to counsellors for students.

Emergency medical services spokesman Robert Daniels told reporters it was obvious that the victims were attacked with an axe.

'What I can say is they were not shot, the patients were axed,' Mr Daniels told the Cape Times. 'The daughter was rushed to hospital with severe head trauma and a severed jugular.

Family friend Alexander Boshoff, 19, described the Van Bredas' as a 'typical happy family', according to South African news reports. 'Our families often spent holidays together. We have known each other for years,' he said.

Mr Boshoff said the family moved around a lot due to Martin's work but the boys never complained and then added that they were 'like a perfect family'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2945500/Shocking-twist-axe-murders-Surviving-son-self-inflicted-injuries-waited-4-hours-call-help-frenzied-attack-killed-three-members-family.html

The audio is scary he laughs in it ( sergio celis anyone? )

tania cadogan said...

Lance Armstrong did what liars most often do when accused: he attacked.

He used his ill-gotten millions to destroy others lives, businesses and reputations. He could outlast anyone in court. Even when "apologizing" he continued to deceive. Now that no one wants to interview him, and there is a wake of destruction around him, he might be willing to talk.


Just like the mccanns

Peter Hyatt said...

The McCanns have done a good job of building a wall around themselves. They have even painted themselves in changing portraits to fit the bill. Their language reveals "panic lying", as well as above average intellects,which is where we see control and manipulation come in.

They were not content to stay home and be quiet knowing that whatever happened, they were not going to be held responsible.

Peter

tania cadogan said...

The problem the mccanns face is no money of their own.

They have lost several legal cases so far and look likely to lose the damages one against Dr. Goncalo Amaral, the ex lead detective.

They will be liable for a bucket load of legal bills especially since they use carter-ruck (very expensive)
They are also likely to face being sued by Dr Amaral as well.

The fund was sipposedly to be used solely for the search for their daughter but a clause also says it can be used to support the family.
Originally they weren't allowed to use it to pay their legal bills which ticked gerry off bigtime.
A few sackings of directors later and the installation of him and wifey and hey presto legal fees can be paid out (presumably on the behalf of the twins)

Beardy branso did donate £100,000 to a legal defence fund as he believed them innocent.
I don't know if that was used or dependant on them being charged (presumably only if there was no evidence against them)

They had financial problems before they vacation needing the fund to pay 2 months of mortgage (even though he was still getting a full salary as a consultant)

They have approx £400,000 in a restricted account (no one seems to know what is meant by restricted) they have no money of their own, everything have been paid for by donations or their supporters or from the book.

The wall they built was built at the expense of others and of poor quality materials, they assuming they only have to threaten to sue and they will get a payout.

Money can buy silence but for how long?
If the money runs out then any offer of a reward is tempting.
Those not directly involved can sell their story and write a book or movie deal.

the temptation is there ( as well as plea deals)

john said...

Re mccans, lower case intended and spelling too.

This case as in other cover ups will never, as my good friend Tania knows, be resolved. It goes to far high up into the government.

Bring down the mcanns (again) intended. Then. Watch the proverbial hit the fan. Politicians, Peers, lords, lady's, judges, bankers (i wish i misspelt "bankers" too lol etc) ?

Retrospective charges. Would make (well you fill in the gaps) look like (again, fill in the gaps)

This cover up. Of the ALLEGED ("Abduction"/accidental/murder of Madeleine etc) unfortunately, will go on and on, and in my opinion will Never be resolved.

The so called tapas 7/8. Who, How, or what, has kept one and all quiet is a investigation and a book in its self.

I am surprised not to hear one or another have not been reported in a road accident.

My frustration, anger, you name the expletive in this case. Has impacted me so, that i have left all "sites" (the majority) looking for the mcanns to be arrested of which i admire and want the same. Yet, and by all means we have the Pro mcan sites. That's their opinion too. My reason for leaving anti mcan sites is that it is turning into a circus. Who can get the most members etc. They are arguing amongst themselves and Madeleine is being lost in the fog of point scorers, i know better than you, you know nothing. This by the way is on sites to get the mcans and all others put in jail for xyz.

S/A alone indicates deception. This is without, NOT ONE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE to the contrary.

I am surprised myself and others haven't been Carter Rucked!!!

Rant over!

Anonymous said...

5 Things American Sniper’s Chris Kyle Allegedly Lied About
By Adam K. Raymond

Moviegoers love Chris Kyle’s story, that much is certain: American Sniper, the movie version of the former SEAL's same-named 2012 memoir, earned a record-smashing $90.2 million over the weekend. But did they get the whole story? As Clint Eastwood's movie tells it, Kyle — the deadliest sniper in U.S. military history, played on film by Bradley Cooper — was a hero despite a few faults. But one of the faults that the film ignores is that Kyle was sort of a fabulist. Though his accomplishments on the battlefield have never been in dispute — he's credited with 160 confirmed kills — a few of his tall tales are. Here are Kyle's five biggest whoppers.
He punched Jesse Ventura in the face, knocking him to the ground.
The most famous of Kyle’s lies. According to his book American Sniper, a celebrity who used to serve in the military showed up at a San Diego bar in 2006 during a wake for a fallen SEAL. In the book, Kyle refers to the celebrity as "Scruff Face," but later identified him as Ventura on The O'Reilly Factor and "The Opie and Anthony Show." A former SEAL himself (though some dispute that), Ventura allegedly railed against the war and said the Navy SEALs “deserved to lose a few guys.” That’s when he got punched.
Ventura denied it happened and then sued. After Kyle was tragically killed in 2013, Ventura refused to drop the suit and last July he won. A jury ruled that Kyle defamed Ventura and awarded him half a million dollars in defamation damages along with $1.35 million for “unjust enrichment.” Though Kyle didn’t live to see the verdict, he defended himself in a deposition he gave a year before his death. But that didn’t do him any favors. According to a report in the Star Tribune, Kyle told a story that was full of inconsistencies and admitted that some of the details in the book were not true. Still, he maintained that he punched Ventura.

He killed dozens of looters during Hurricane Katrina from atop the Super Dome.
According to Nicholas Schmidle, a reporter for The New Yorker, Kyle once told a group of fellow SEALs about the time he traveled to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and, according to Schmidle’s 2013 article, shot “dozens of armed residents who were contributing to the chaos.” When Schmidle tried to corroborate the story with SOCOM, he was told no SEALs from the West Coast were sent to New Orleans after Katrina. Kyle’s officer told the writer he “never heard that story” and another SEAL told him Kyle’s story of murdering Americans on American soil “defies the imagination.” It’s hard to argue with that.

He shot two guys who were trying to steal his truck.

Unlike the previous two stories, it’s less obvious that this one is a lie, but plenty of people have called it that. It happened in January 2010 when Kyle was filling up his gas tank outside Dallas. Two men approached Kyle and demanded his keys, the SEAL told a reporter for Dallas’s D Magazine. Instead, Kyle deposited two bullets in their chests. Then the story goes off the rails. Police allegedly let Kyle go because they were told by “someone high up in the government” what a valuable asset he was. The only reminder of the incident, says Kyle, was the occasional email he received from law enforcement thanking him for “cleaning up the streets.” The Fort Worth Star-Telegram tried and failed to corroborate the story. So did The New Yorker.

Anonymous said...

Protesters called him a “baby killer.”

In Kyle's book, he claims he saw war protesters carrying signs that said "baby killer" — which is a bunch of bull according to Michael McCaffrey, who combed through American Sniper for inaccuracies. McCaffrey questions the story because, “That would also make not only the local news, but national news. And other vets would have reported the same thing on their own websites or chat rooms. None of that happened.” Instead, McCaffrey alleges, Kyle is repeating an “urban myth from the Vietnam era.”

He found chemical weapons in Iraq that came from France and Germany.
Another allegation from McCaffrey centers on a short passage in Kyle’s book in which he writes “we found barrels of chemical material that was intended for use as biochemical weapons,” and “writing on the barrels showed that the chemicals came from France and Germany.” McCaffrey writes that this story is lie because “there is no proof or evidence that this incident occurred.” Makes sense.

Anonymous said...

Protesters called him a “baby killer.”

In Kyle's book, he claims he saw war protesters carrying signs that said "baby killer" — which is a bunch of bull according to Michael McCaffrey, who combed through American Sniper for inaccuracies. McCaffrey questions the story because, “That would also make not only the local news, but national news. And other vets would have reported the same thing on their own websites or chat rooms. None of that happened.” Instead, McCaffrey alleges, Kyle is repeating an “urban myth from the Vietnam era.”

He found chemical weapons in Iraq that came from France and Germany.
Another allegation from McCaffrey centers on a short passage in Kyle’s book in which he writes “we found barrels of chemical material that was intended for use as biochemical weapons,” and “writing on the barrels showed that the chemicals came from France and Germany.” McCaffrey writes that this story is lie because “there is no proof or evidence that this incident occurred.” Makes sense.

Anonymous said...

"Will people want to elect Hillary Clinton, who's language reveals the same pathological lying and divine-like status, holding the public in contempt, to the nation's highest office?"

Yes, unfortunately. People seem to vote for their own one or two important "causes", without looking at each candidate as a whole. Hillary will get a lot of women votes (not mine, if she's even nominated), she'll get a lot of democrat, gay/bi/lesbian, and minority. These particular issues, although important, are not at this time, what people should be looking at for candidates. Womens, minority, gay/bi/lesbian, etc. rights will never be revoked. Has anyone's rights, once given, ever been revoked? Americans (which is what we ALL are) need to look at candidates as a whole. Candidates who have America and American Citizens best interests in mind. We can't place a vote due to one topic only; we need to look at all topics as a whole. Well technically we CAN, but I don't think it'll in the best interest of America. America needs fixing, and it needs someone who is truly in touch with reality and the American Citizens.

john said...

OT:

Throw money in the mix. Light the blue touch paper and stand back.

This is a you girl who has suffered enough with the loss of her Mum. She is lying in in bed on "life support" With the vultures circling!! What a disgrace.

Bobbi Kristina Brown: Family Fights Over Funeral Plans – Nick Gordon Criminal Investigation Ramps Up – Prognosis Bleak

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2015/bobbi-kristina-brown-prognosis-bleak-family-fight-over-funeral-plans-nick-gordon-criminal-investigation-ramps-up/

tania cadogan said...

I agree John, I know it is petty, i will use lowercase for names of criminals, liars,anyone who doesn't deserve my respect.
I do apologise if occasionally i typo and don't capitalise the name of the good guy.
I try to catch them before i click enter, it doesn't always work.

Regarding the pros and antis, on the sites that i comment in i refuse to buy into the he said she said drama , so much so that one group got into a slanging match between admin>
it should have been kept private, it wasn't.
They even resorted to making pages to get supporters on side and to insult the other.

I got annoyed and got all admin on their asses ( a habit i use in client when the members won't do as they are told)
All were told to grow up and stop the nonsense as it made them look stupid and if it continued i would have no problem blocking names from my feeds.
They continued, they got blocked.
I mean what i say :)

A cetain site like to demean and defame me, i wave to them when they make a particularly dumb comment and call them my fans in any response (it drives them nuts)

I got really excited when i had a message telling me to delete defamatory comments or i would end up in court.
I don't think they were too pleased when i cheered my first legal threatand pretty much said bring it on.

I am still waiting to be carter rucked.

They don't get that i really want to be in court as i know what questions to ask (or get my attorney to ask).
I really want them on the stand, which is the last place they want to be.

john said...

Hi Tania.

Tania said:

They don't get that i really want to be in court as i know what questions to ask (or get my attorney to ask).
I really want them on the stand, which is the last place they want to be.



Hahahaa. You and I have always said that. They take us to court. They then themselves have to answer and or TRY to justify the reasons for refuting myself, yourself or anyone else that has solid foundational evidence facts, verbally and or, for instance (Keela and Eddie, the cadaverine dogs) whom as you know, have never been employed to work on a case (all over the world) gave a false indication for what they are trained for. The power they hold, th mcs, is beyond belief. They DO NOT care who they destroy, bankrupt, make homeless, put families on the street because of costs. The circles (And you know what i mean ?) They mix with. Will not allow them to be exposed, and again (you and I know why )

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john said...

As for the mcan sites Tania. You know, as well as i do. They are run by the same people under different pseudonyms. ??

S/A has taught me that. Their language has always and will give the Mods identities away :)

john said...

OT:

Police release 911 calls in Cowboys’ Joseph Randle case

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article9615422.html

tania cadogan said...

john said...

As for the mcan sites Tania. You know, as well as i do. They are run by the same people under different pseudonyms. ??

S/A has taught me that. Their language has always and will give the Mods identities away :


Exactly, as with handwriting, everyone has their own typing style, it can be words they use, slang, abbreviations, emoticons or vbonics.
Once you have seen their typing online in live chat it is pretty easy to spot the clones, the players.

it is how many a member in a vp relationship gets caught out as they use the same terms of endearment, language and even typos and whoops another name bites the dust.

Back in the early days a lot were caught when they forgot to change their avatar or their id and signed in wearing the wrong picture or with the wrong names in their identity box.

I am lucky in that when i wear my work hat i make sure to type differently to my playname, avoiding certain words and slang.
My admin hat again has a different type of typing style.

My bosses were amazed that i could have 2 conversations going on at the same time,one in client in my play name and one in the staff conference and no one, not even the bosses could tell it was me, even though they were talking to my play name in client whilst talking to me in conf.

Perhaps it is because i was always good in drama at school.
I am surprised that no one has linked my play name and my work name.
Mind you, they do think i am a male and a dog :)
I play musical hats ( it's funny when they complain to my admin name when i have had to talk to them in my work name for being naughty and vice versa (sometimes at the same time in an effort to gain sympathy/forgive the penalty)It means i have a lot of windows going on my screen

tania cadogan said...

PS I have also found SA to be a godsend when it comes to all the drama that comes with an online chat prgram, he said she said, threats,booters, general issues and suicide calls (luckily very few of those)

john said...

Have you ever read the book Sybil lololol ? xx

Sus said...

OT Chris Kyle
When told by an interviewer for Time that his autobiography really didn't dispel the idea he is violent...

"I really don't care what they think of me. I mean I've got my family. I've got my friends. I'm not trying to make new friends, and people, when you actually spend time, you'll find out, just a fun-lovin guy. Now yes, I have been trained to be a little more aggressive if I need to be. But I don't go around thumpin people."

He didn't care what THEY think, yet he wrote a book against SEAL policy and appeared on many talk shows and gave many interviews.

Note "I HAVE BEEN TRAINED" is passive. He did not claim his aggreviness/violence which was evidenced long before he joined the military and he wrote about in his own book.

He drops a pronoun at "fun-lovin guy and self corrects himself when speaking about how others view him.

He speaks in the negative, saying he doesn't go around "THUMPIN PEOPLE" Thumpin people is a sensitive issue to him. What was "go around" to Chris Kyle? While out in bars? Walking down the street? Picking fights?

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Anonymous said...

Tania Cadogan said:

I am surprised that no one has linked my play name and my work name.

Interesting have you used multiple names here on Peter's blog? Which ones?

john said...

OT Update:

Drew Peterson charged with hiring hit man to kill prosecutor in his 2012 murder trial

Drew Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police officer convicted in 2012 of killing his third wife, has now been charged with trying to hire a hit man to kill the prosecutor who tried his case.

Peterson, currently serving a 38-year sentence for the murder of Kathleen Savio, made an initial appearance in court Monday on one count of solicitation of murder and one count of solicitation of murder for hire . A preliminary hearing is scheduled for March 3rd.

Will County State's Attorney James Glagow was the alleged target, but no other details have been released. Glagow was the lead prosecutor in Peterson's 2012 trial where he was found guilty in the murder of his ex-wife Kathleen Savio. Neighbors found Savio's body in 2004 in a dry bathtub with a gash on her head. Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in 2007 and although never charged, Peterson is considered a suspect in that case.

randolph_county_peterson_filing.pdf

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/drew-peterson-charged-hiring-hit-man-kill-prosecutor-his-2012-n303001

Jen Ow said...

Wow!

Sus said...

I hope to God they somehow, someway find Stacy and put some more nails in that sociopath's coffin!!

GetThem said...

Maybe they feel contemptuous because they have gotten away with lying for so many years too.

Droll Skeptic said...

The most frustrating thing about politics in general is that it both attracts and hones the skill set of habitual liars.

I challenge you to name ONE, modern, American politician, who has NOT been caught in a bold faced lie to his/her constituents!

I don't trust any of them. I think political commentary shows and debates are the worst. They are hilarious.

Frankly, if you want to know what the elected official will actually DO once in office follow the campaign donation money trail, know what his/her family has a vested financial interest in, and what will put the candidate's political party in the best position for winning the next election cycle.

This will predict most of the decisions made during their tenure in office.

Cynical? You betcha.

tania cadogan said...

Anonymous said...

Tania Cadogan said:

I am surprised that no one has linked my play name and my work name.

Interesting have you used multiple names here on Peter's blog? Which ones?


I have used two names in this blog. Hobnob and Tania Cadogan

I reverted to my real name when i created my own blog and set up my profile.
To prevent confusion to commentators here as to who i am i kept my avatar the same which is why you will see in some commentator posts they call me Hobnob or Hobs rather than Tania,

Well spotted Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's like having to figure out and choose who has lied the least (that we know of). Who seems to be the least phoney. Try to choose the least of all evils. It's really sad and disheartening, because this is not how politics was originally meant to be. It was supposed to be for, we the people. They are supposed to be working for us.

Peter Hyatt said...

Those that post "all newscasters are liars" like those who say "all politicians are liars" are complacently jaded.

For them, there is no need for analysis. No need for truth. No need for discernment.

It is a fatalism that I do not share.

With this presupposition, the expectation of discerning deception on a test, for example, will lead to failure.

Peter

Deejay said...

Peter- You are right that liars create a lot of trouble. They lack internal brakes- and think they can talk their way out of bad behavior. Yuck!

But, in your opinion, what creates the worst of them?? How are the different types alike in behavior, how are they different? How are they different from more honest people?

Kellie said...

Tania Cadogan said:

I am surprised that no one has linked my play name and my work name.




I connected it Tania. I just assumed since you were now using Tania, then that is how you want to be addressed. What makes you think no one made the connection?

Kellie said...

Holy crap! John

That Drew Peterson is just murderous to the core isn't he??

GetThem said...

While it's true most ADA's are right out of law school, they typically start out in district court (DUI, simple assaults and more) and once they get some cases under their belt, they are moved into Superior Court where they are given harder cases... like "Baby Lisa". The attorneys I knew in Superior Court were talented and dedicated and while it's true some were enticed by more money and prestige and left the DA's office, the ones that stayed were impressive and fought hard for their cases. There is a lot of talent in the DA's office, but like any other business, there are always fools. It's no different in a DA office than anywhere else in that regard. Our DA's work long hours, see horrific cases and deal with people that most of us will never meet in a lifetime. They need to get out of bed at 2AM on Christmas to be at a crime scene, they need to talk to victim's family members and feel the pain of the families. Yes, sometimes they need to make a decision not to prosecute if they believe they won't get a conviction. We won't always agree with them. We won't always agree with people in general, it's not just DA's. I think the real question, is how do some incompetent DA's get into the positions they are in now and then are given important cases they can't handle. I think THAT is a big problem because there are some that get their jobs because of their "names" and the fact they have family in the business. They are looking to go into politics, or are using the DA's office as a springboard for the big bucks elsewhere. But generally speaking, I SUPPORT our DA's.

Lemon said...

When Hobnob/Hobs gets in trouble, there are 'some' here who 'may' refer to her as Hobston.
Just sayin'.

Carry on!