Friday, July 10, 2015

Judge Lisa Gorcyca Releases Three Children



Oakland County Judge Lisa Gorcyca said she’s sending the children to a summer camp, at the request of the father.
The subdued statement came after public outrage of her verbal and emotional  abuse of the children as well as depriving them of their freedom for 24 hours.   
“The court finds that is in the children’s best interests to grant the father’s and the guardian ad litem’s motion to allow the children to attend summer camp."
No word as to why "the court" did not listen to the GAL during the initial hearing.  

16 comments:

Ellie said...

Wonderful. Hoping she is removed from the bench soon.

Anonymous said...

Correction - they had been in "jail" (judge's words) since June 24th! Over two weeks! Simply awful.

Furthermore, the father reportedly made his appearance at today's hearing via satellite. That's right, after his kids were sent to "jail" on June 24th, he left the country and returned to his home abroad.

"Freeing" the children to attend summer camp will never make up for the insults and injustice to which they were subjected.

John mcgowan said...
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John mcgowan said...

OT:

There maybe more said in this interview. The NG clip will not play for me!.

Missing mom’s boyfriend: ‘I’m 100% innocent’

Crystal Rogers, 35, last seen the night of July 3 at her boyfriend’s home
Car found abandoned with personal items still inside
Boyfriend tells Nancy Grace he took a polygraph but the results were ‘inconclusive’

The boyfriend of missing Kentucky mother Crystal Rogers defends himself in an exclusive interview with HLN’s Nancy Grace.

“All of my efforts in searching for her have been done behind the scenes with the Nelson County Sheriff’s Office,” Brooks Houck told Grace Thursday.

“I’ve been 100% completely honest with everyone. I’ve been 100% cooperative in everything that that has been asked of me. I’ve not asked for any kind of legal advice or assistance, an attorney of any nature. I’m 100% completely innocent in this and I have exhausted my efforts with the law enforcement agencies to gather all the facts necessary to allow me to have a clean name again,” Houck added.

Anyone with information about the disappearance of Crystal Rogers is asked to call the tipline at 502-348-3211. There is a $40,000 reward.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2015/07/09/crystal-rogers-boyfriend-brooks-houck-speaks-nancy-grace?clusterId=60#videoplayer

Anonymous said...

Dang it. Where is Hobnob when you need her? If Hobnob would set her mind to it she could find how where is the money trail involved in all this? There must be one heck-uv a lot of it to keep this big legal mess going on and on.

This couple has been in court repeatedly with their divorce and child custody/visitation, parental rights issues. SOMEBODY is paying the piper to dance and it's a lotta money! Attorneys aren't free. They are being paid handsomely to keep their meters running. WHO is paying them?! I betcha they've already been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars!

What's the bottom line here? It's the money, of course. If there wasn't money at stake here one or the other of these parents would have walked away long ago.

Hobs, where the dickens are you!

Anonymous said...

The fact that the judge has released the children to go to a summer camp at the request of their (absentee!) father doesn't mean they are free. They are still at the behest of their father and HIS whims; further, nothing was said as to whether they are allowed visitation by their mother, or if they are allowed contact with each other or any other family member as they certainly weren't while they were incarcerated in prison since June 24th.

They have committed no felony crime, yet were held as felons and are still at the mercy of this nasty judge and whatever her next move might be.

John mcgowan said...
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John mcgowan said...

OT:

Peter, as you have mentioned numerous times that "that" is distance and "this" is close.

I read somewhere in an article you posted (for which i can not find) that the use of the word "that" (distancing language) will be employed in certain circumstances along with minimization, and that using these tactics (for want of a better word) is expected (at least i think that is what you said, lol) For example, when someone is being accused of a crime etc. Is it possible for you to elaborate further on this topic please?

Thanks

Peter Hyatt said...

John,

this speak to human nature.

Because of your natural talent, and your drive, I urge you to formal training (1) and then on to some very specific books that highlight human nature, which I can recommend privately.

From many interviews, the Analyst/Interviewer comes to expect the distancing language, as minimization, even in admission, can be heard.

This is along the lines of "the deceptiveness of deception" within our nature.

I've only hinted in the lengthy articles, but know that few will actually follow through with the discomfort associated with reality.

Peter

Trigger said...

"I am 100% completely innocent" Brooks Hock on Nancy Grace talking about the disappearance of Crystal Rogers.



Buckley said...

OT

Joan Jett Issues Statement On Runaways' Jackie Fox Rape Allegations

"If I was aware of a friend or bandmate being violated, I would not stand by while it happened."

15 hours ago | Updated 14 hours ago

Andrew Hart Front Page Editor, The Huffington Post

Joan Jett, iconic rock star and former member of the all-female band the Runaways, said she was unaware her bandmate was raped by manager Kim Fowley 40 years ago.

Jett spoke out in a Facebook post Friday night, her first public comments since HuffPost reported former bassist Jacqueline Fuchs' account of being attacked at age of 16. Fuchs said Jett was present during the assault.

“Anyone who truly knows me understands that if I was aware of a friend or bandmate being violated, I would not stand by while it happened.” Jett, who still performs with the Blackhearts, wrote on Facebook. “For a group of young teenagers thrust into '70s rock stardom there were relationships that were bizarre, but I was not aware of this incident. Obviously Jackie’s story is extremely upsetting and although we haven’t spoken in decades, I wish her peace and healing.”

Fuchs, who played bass for the Runaways from 1975 to 1977 under the name of Jackie Fox, revealed to HuffPost’s Jason Cherkis that she was drugged at a New Year’s Eve party during her time with the band, and was raped by band manager and music industry heavyweight Kim Fowley. The claim was corroborated by several witnesses, including former Runaway lyricist Kari Krome. Fuchs had never spoken publicly about the attack before HuffPost’s report, published on Wednesday.

Fuchs said the rape took place in a California hotel room in the presence of bandmates Jett and Cherie Currie, along with numerous other partygoers. Fuchs said she had been given a Quaalude and was brutally violated by Fowley as she slipped in and out of consciousness.

“I can’t move. I can’t speak. All I can do is look him in the eye and do the best I can do to communicate: Please say no,” Fuchs recounted. “I don’t know what it looked like from the outside. But I know what was going on inside and it was horror.”

She last remembered looking up to see Jett and Currie staring at her.
Brent Williams, who was also present in the hotel room, told HuffPost that he was asked by Jett to deny witnessing anything if contacted by lawyers.

Jett had denied “witnessing the event as it has been described here,” when presented with HuffPost’s reporting prior to the article's publication. Her representative referred further questions to Fuchs, “as it’s a matter involving her and she can speak for herself.”

Buckley said...

Fowley, who died in January, had been accused of assault by numerous women, some in their teens at the time. He was openly attracted to teenagers and vulnerable females: “I’m like a shark. I’ll smell the blood,” he said of himself. Former Runaway singer Cherie Currie described him as “a beast [who] should not be allowed near young girls.”


“It was the abuse from Kim Fowley and our roadies that was so hard to take. We got such abuse on a daily basis,”
Currie told The Guardian in 2010. In her memoir, Currie wrote of Fowley having sex with a women in front of the band.

Kari Krome, a former Runaway who claimed to have witnessed the rape of Fuchs, revealed to HuffPost that Fowley assaulted her at his apartment, and a fan backstage at a 1975 show.

Fowley denied ever sexually assaulting any of the Runaways. “They can talk about it until the cows come home but, in my mind, I didn’t make love to anybody in the Runaways nor did they make love to me,” he said in a 2013 biography of the band, according to Yahoo News. He was never charged in any of the alleged assaults.

Fuchs said she was inspired to break 40 years of silence after seeing other high-profile sexual assaults made public, such as claims against Bill Cosby.

Kathy Valentine, formerly of the groundbreaking all-female band the Go-Go's, expressed support for Fuchs. "Jackie is incredibly brave for finally speaking out about this. I told her, and I will say it here too: she has done FAR more for women by speaking out than the Runaways ever did," Valentine wrote on Facebook. Valentine said she understood why witnesses remained quiet immediately after the assault, writing, "They were glad it wasn't them. He was their ticket to being rock stars, touring, recording -- living their dream. They thought this was part of rock and roll, that she got this messed up, too bad for her."

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55a08c7be4b0b8145f72dd93

John mcgowan said...

Thanks Peter

Anonymous said...

OT
http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/

Jackie Fox Of The Runaways: Manager Kim Fowley Raped Me - The Huffington Post

Soon after Jackie arrived at the motel, a grown man she thinks was a roadie approached her with a Quaalude in his hand. He told her she needed to take it, no questions asked. And she did.Another partygoer, Brent Williams, a friend of Krome’s, says he heard people (not members of the band) talking about the number of Quaaludes Jackie was being given that night—four, five, even six pills. “It was a date rape-type situation,” he says. Jackie has never before publicly discussed what happened next, once the drugs took hold, but it has changed the course of her life.

At some point, Jackie says she had to lie down on a bed to rest. She was having trouble staying upright. When a roadie checked to see if she was OK, Fowley asked him if he was interested in having sex with her. “She doesn’t mind,” Fowley said. “Do you?”

Jackie tried to protest, but she was frozen. “You don’t know what terror is until you realize something bad is about to happen to you and you can’t move a muscle,” she says. “I can’t move. I can’t speak. All I can do is look him in the eye and do the best I can do to communicate: Please say no. ... I don’t know what it looked like from the outside. But I know what was going on inside and it was horror.” The roadie declined Fowley’s offer, and soon after, Jackie says she started to slip in and out of consciousness.

Anonymous said...

OT Trigger Warning and language
http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/

Jackie Fox Of The Runaways: Manager Kim Fowley Raped Me - The Huffington Post

“I remember opening my eyes, Kim Fowley was raping me, and there were people watching me,” Jackie says. She looked out from the bed and noticed Currie and Jett staring at her. She says this was her last memory of the night. Jett, through a representative, denied witnessing the event as it has been described here. Her representative referred all further questions to Jackie “as it’s a matter involving her and she can speak for herself.”

Currie claims that she spoke up and stormed out of the room. All witnesses say they felt intimidated. “It turned into this really disgusting Grand Guignol–like theater performance that he put on,” Krome says. “And Jackie was dead, dead, dead drunk—like corpse drunk. She was just laying down on her back, sound asleep, out of it.”

Victory Tischler-Blue was Jackie’s replacement on bass, and one of her main memories from her time as a Runaway was how some of the other members made fun of what happened to Jackie. “I heard about that nonstop,” she says now. “They would talk about Kim fucking Jackie like a dog. It was kind of a running joke.”

Oftentimes during soundchecks, Tischler-Blue says that Smythe would play his secret recording of Jackie’s breakdown in Japan. He made listening to it part of the band’s pre-show ritual. “He was taunting her and she started screaming, ‘I’m sick of being sick,’” Tischler-Blue remembers. “It became a catchphrase with the band. She was shrieking it. It shook me to my core—and everybody would laugh.”

Jackie’s trauma intensified after learning in 2000 that Currie wanted to write about the rape for a memoir. Currie depicted the incident in lurid detail, but instead of Jackie, the victim was a fictionalized groupie who encouraged her rapist. Jackie was merely a bystander, and an indifferent one at that. Jackie threatened legal action over this account, at which point Currie collected affidavits from two witnesses. The publisher ultimately decided to pull the book, and Jackie continued to stay silent about what had happened to her. She wasn’t ready to come out as the true victim. 4

“The feelings of shame that I had felt before were now double-fold,” Jackie says.

Her guard only started to come down after reading Krome’s comments about the rape in a Runaways biography published two summers ago. Krome didn’t mention Jackie by name, but she didn’t need to. Krome’s account perfectly matched her memory.

This was a revelation. Jackie no longer wanted to push the rape as far out of her mind as possible; she wanted to know everything about it: Who else was in the room? Did they feel guilty about not intervening? Would she, in turn, feel guilty about that?

Jeff Gaynor said...

In the custody case, Judge Gorcyca has long been frustrated by the mother's behavior, and made it clear that she wanted the kids away from their mom. Given the children's defiant stance, it would not have been healthy to send them to their father. "Mandy's Place" - the first place she sent them to - had been mentioned as a possibility months ago, with the consultation of the children's guardian ad litum. Perhaps there was not another appropriate place, or maybe the judge was being punitive. With it now summer, Camp Tamarack does make more sense.