Friday, September 18, 2015

Texas High School Football Players: Do You Believe Them?



Who do you believe?

Are the students lying?

Are the students lying about the coach?
Are the students lying about the ref?

From the NY Daily News:

Texas high school football players say coach told them to tackle referee

ABC News

Michael Moreno, left, and Victor Rojas said their coach told them to hit the referee.

The Texas high school football players who brutally tackled a referee broke their silence, insisting their assistant coach told them, "You need to hit him.”
Victor Rojas and Michael Moreno said the coach, Mack Breed, told them the referee "needs to pay the price" for hurling racial slurs and making unjustified calls after a safety got injured.
"His emotions just got mixed into it," Moreno said on Good Morning America Friday morning. "He told us to do what we did."
The John Jay High School students were caught on video blindsiding referee Robert Watts during the last minute of a game in San Antonio earlier this month. Rojas slammed Watts in the back and Moreno dove into him on the ground, leading to their suspension. They are now under investigation by authorities.
The teens, who had previously not been named, appeared much less formidable without their padding in their first TV appearance. Rojas spoke so softly he was barely audible.
Mack Breed is facing claims that he instigated the attack.ABC News

Mack Breed is facing claims that he instigated the attack.

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Robert Watts said he is the victim of slander.ABC News

Robert Watts said he is the victim of slander.

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Rojas said he heard Watts call a black student the n-word and told a Spanish student to "speak English, this is America." The district said it plans to file a complaint against the referee of 14 years with the Texas Association of Sports Officials.
Watts' attorney said the teens were "flat out lying" and the referee is looking into taking legal action.
Breed has been placed on administrative leave after he told players "that guy needs to pay for cheating us" during the game, district officials said. He has not publicly commented on the allegations.
Both boys said they want to apologize for hitting Watts, and Rojas said he "can't explain" how it all happened.
Moreno called the incident "one of my biggest regrets" and one he went through only because he trusted Breed as a "grown-up."
"Everyone sees me as this thug or gangster: I did this because I'm a bad guy. That's not who I am," the aspiring aerospace engineer said. "Underneath the helmet and the pads, I'm really a great kid."
The teens and their attorney, Jesse Hernandez, hope the public and officials will go easy on the Honor Society members. They've already been suspended for three days and had to attend an alternative school for a week.
Moreno has learned "you can't just do that because of something you were told."
"I'm ready to face my consequences," he said. "I am greatly sorry for this and I regret it greatly. I hope people can change their minds about us and the consequences."

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the Honor Society needs a review along with the football players.

This is the HONEST truth.

They are sorry. Quasi-sorry.

Hope he presses charges.

Anonymous said...

check this out (he can use a brief case when Radio Shack has better things to contain a clock in):http://www.vox.com/2015/9/18/9351413/ahmed-mohamed

Suzanne said...

Embedded confession? "I did this because I am a bad guy."

Anonymous said...

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/09/18/baby-doe-identified-deer-island-winthrop-massachusetts-missing-girl/

tania cadogan said...

Moreno called the incident "one of my biggest regrets" and one he went through only because he trusted Breed as a "grown-up."
"Everyone sees me as this thug or gangster: I did this because I'm a bad guy. That's not who I am," the aspiring aerospace engineer said. "Underneath the helmet and the pads, I'm really a great kid.


Interesting

Moreno called the incident "one of my biggest regrets"
What else has he done that causes him to regret doing it?
Does he have a previous history of violence or anger issues?

one he went through only because he trusted Breed as a "grown-up."
How old is he that he refers to the coach as a "grown up" rather than the expected adult?
Younger children refer to adults as grown ups, older children such as teens tend use adult.
Is he downplaying his age and behavior to that of someone younger?
Can i expect him to say "The big boys did it and ran away"?
Does he have special needs of some kind?

"Everyone sees me as this thug or gangster: I did this because I'm a bad guy.
This is close, that is distancing.
He places himself close to being a thug or gangster.
Embedded is him doing it because he is a bad guy.
Words such as so or because are highlighted in blue as they explain why something happened.
He tells the interviewer why he did it without being asked as he believes the question why did you do it will be asked making it sensitive.
He did it because "I'm a bad guy"
This would lead me to ask about behavior issues, school records, if he has come into contact with LE.

That's not who I am," the aspiring aerospace engineer said. "Underneath the helmet and the pads, I'm really a great kid.
This is close, that is distancing.
Previously he has used the word this in relation to the bad behavior, here he uses the distancing word That in relation to denying who he is.
The expected would be reversed, That in relation to the negative and this In relation to the positive.

"Underneath the helmet and the pads, I'm really a great kid.
This is sensitive to him, enough that he brings it up.
Has he been told he isn't a great kid when he isn't playing football?
What is his history when playing football?
Is he overly aggressive?
Has he been benched?


tania cadogan said...

cont.

Moreno has learned "you can't just do that because of something you were told." "I'm ready to face my consequences," he said. "I am greatly sorry for this and I regret it greatly. I hope people can change their minds about us and the consequences."
You is 3rd person, distancing himself from the statement, he doesn't tell us what he has learned only what we (you) has learned.
This is unexpected and would cause me to ask more questions about what he was really told.
He then switches back to first person singular I in relation to My consequences.
This makes me wonder what he means by "My consequences"
Is he referring to his punishment, or,is he referring to the consequences caused to the referee such as injuries, or, is he referring to what will happen to the coach?
Have there been issues between the teens and their coach?
Have their been issues between the teens and the referee?

"I am greatly sorry for this and I regret it greatly.
Greatly is repeated twice making it sensitive.
Did he expect no consequences?
What is the It he regrets?
What is the This he is sorry for?
He doesn't say "iam sorry for attacking the referee" and i can't say it for him.
Is he instead referring to being sorry having to be on tv and having his behavior shown to the masses?
Does he regret being caught and publicly humiliated?

I hope people can change their minds about us and the consequences."
What consequences does he hope people will change their minds about?
He has been suspended from school and had to attend a different school, does he fear further consequences such as criminal charges for assault?

I would also be looking at how the team plays, if they are overly aggressive on the field, a higher than average number of sending offs, penalties etc.
The reason being if he encourages the aggression on the field, chooses players he knows to be aggressive or have anger issues, having them act it out on the field rather than off the field, making use of their physicality rather than their thinking and theory to make the most of all opportunities.
Rather than thinking tactically does he instead choose those who think with their fists rather than their heads?
This is something that needs to be looked at regardless.

Is it a case of, if they are going down, they will take others with them?
Is it a case of, they have issues with the coach and have decided to blame him and get him fired?
it is not unusual for students to make allegations against a teacher in order to get them fired etc over some perceived slight.

Sus said...

Okaaaay. Can gangbangers now use this defense? I want GMA to have on a gangbanger and he can tell the host, "Hey under this red (or blue) bandana I'm really a good guy. The other guy was throwing out some crap at me. Bob told me to get him. He's the grown up in the gang. So we blindsided him. I hope they go easy on us."

Come on, an organized high school sport, a team, is not a gang. Or is it now?

Frannie said...

The coach knew these two were the "heavies" on the team. The coach didn't like the calls the ref was making so he told the kids lies that would stir them up, i.e.,"Moreno has learned "you can't just do that because of something you were told." and the kids went out and did the dirty work for the coach. That is how I see it.

John mcgowan said...

OT:

'Baby Doe' identified as Boston girl, Bella Bond, 5 Investigates reports
Girl's body found on Deer Island on June 25


BOSTON —The young girl the world came to know as "Baby Doe" has been identified as Bella Bond and her mother, Rachelle Bond, placed under arrest, 5 Investigates Kathy Curran reported Friday.

Bella was just shy of 3-years-old when she died, according to posts showing her second birthday party on Facebook.

Facebook photos of Bella Bond

The break in the case came after a search warrant was executed at a Maxwell Street home in Dorchester Thursday, 5 Investigates reported.

Watch video

Final confirmation of Bella's identity was pending positive identification by the State Medical Examiner.

Relatives identified the girl to NewsCenter 5 as Bella Bond and neighbors confirmed that Bella lived in the Dorchester home.

"She (the mother) tried to be responsible, but she was on drugs," said Yessiomora Torres. "She talked slurred, she’d come out and smoke a cigarette, her daughter would be crying."

The charges against Rachelle Bond were not immediately released. Her boyfriend was in custody at a Boston hospital.

"The mother and boyfriend are blaming each other for who harmed the child," said Massachusetts House Speaker Robert DeLeo, whose district includes Deer Island. "I got the impression it was deliberate."

Torres said that when she stopped seeing Bella that she assumed the girl had been taken by the Department of Children and Families.

"At one point she was briefly involved with DCF, but the case was closed in 2013," Gov. Charlie Baker said.

DCF was involved with Rachelle Bond twice, according to a spokeswoman. There were allegations of neglect in both 2012 and 2013. In each case, DCF provided services and closed the case.

The young girl’s body was found inside a trash bag by a woman who was walking her dog on Deer Island on June 25.

There was no immediate word on the cause of her death. A spokesman for the Suffolk County District Attorney's office said only the "investigation remains very active."

Photos: Blanket, clothing found with Baby Doe

"This story is really going to hinge on who this child is and what her history was, who her family is and where she came from," said retired Massachusetts State Police Col. Timothy Alben, who led the investigation for months. "Then we are going to open the door to many investigative means."

In the months since the discovery of her body, state police detectives acted on hundreds of leads suggesting possible matches for the young girl in Massachusetts and 35 other states and several countries.

More than 200 girls were ruled out as being the young girl. The computer-generated image of Baby Doe was viewed nearly 60 million times.

Testing of pollen samples recovered from items on the trash bag in which the little girl was found suggested that she had spent a significant amount of time in the Greater Boston area before her death.

http://www.wcvb.com/news/baby-doe-identified-5-investigates-reports/35348850

tania cadogan said...

bugger, you beat me to it John ~sulks~

After three months, the washed up toddler found dead on a Boston Harbor beach and known simply as Baby Doe has been identified as Bella Bond, and her parents are in custody thanks to tip offs from the little girl's neighbors.

Authorities have identified 'Baby Doe' who was found dead on a Boston Harbor beach in June, a law enforcement official says.

The girl has been identified as Bella Bond, the daughter of 40-year-old Rachelle Bond of the Boston neighborhood, Mattapan, according to the Daily Beast.

Bond and her boyfriend, 35-year-old Michael McCarthy, have been arrested in connection to the girl's death, CNN reported. McCarthy is not the girl's biological father, a law enforcement source told CNN.

An official said police searched a Mattapan apartment on Thursday and that they have been in contact with family members.

He spoke on Friday on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release details of the investigation.

The nearly three-month long search to determine the girl's identity came to an end on Thursday when sources told Fox 25 the Boston Police Homicide Unit was tipped off on September 17.

Officials said the tipster, someone who is close to the child's family, had noticed Bella was missing and that every time the person asked her parents what happened, they said she had been taken by the Department of Children and Families, according to the Daily Beast.

Police said there is no child with Bella's name in the custody of the Department of Children and Families.

It was earlier reported on Friday that police were searching for Bond and McCarthy as persons of interest in the case.

Authorities said they were able to match Bella's identity with the clothes she was found wearing when her body was found on Deer Island in Winthrop on June 25.

She was wrapped in a zebra-print blanket and was wearing black-and-white polk-a-dot leggings.

Her body did not have fingerprints when she was found due to erosion by the tide and investigators have not determined a cause of death, according to the Daily Beast.

Investigators are still looking for the girl's parents and said that no arrests have been made in the case at this time, CBS Boston reported.

Neighbors identified the apartment searched on Thursday night on Maxwell Street as the home of Bond.

They told the Boston Globe that men were in and out of the home and that the mother was nice but yelled at the girl a lot.

On Facebook, Bond posted several photos of Bella as they cuddled, cooked together and the mother once called Bella 'My love, my soul, my life. My heart beats because she's in my world.'

In another post she wrote: 'Love her to death. I am on top of the world because of her. My life is complete again and worth living. I give her the world and more if I can...'

tania cadogan said...

cont.

On August 6, 2014, Bond wrote that it was Bella's birthday saying 'My lil bell. It's her b'day today. Happy birthday my sweetest thing ever...'

The last photos Bond shared of Bella on Facebook were on Christmas day last year.

A spokesman for the Suffolk district attorney's office said the investigation remains 'very active.' A state police spokesman did not immediately return calls.

Bella was named Baby Doe by investigators and was estimated to be four years old.

She was believed to have had brown eyes, brown hair, weighed about 30 pounds and stood at about three-and-a-half-feet tall.

Her body was found in June by a woman walking a dog and Bella's case has since sparked a massive social media campaign to try to find out what happened to her.

A computer-generated image of her brought about an estimated 40 million views in two weeks and a search spanned across at least 36 states.

A tip line also brought in hundreds of leads, with investigators ruling out more than 200 girls.

Police had originally believed she had washed ashore when her body was discovered.

However, in July they announced they believed she was already dead when she was left on the rocks, wrapped in a zebra print blanket, as her body was not waterlogged enough to have been in the ocean for an extended period of time.

Authorities had also said that they believed it was likely she lived in the area and that whoever disposed of her body picked the site because of convenience and proximity.

An analysis of pollen samples of items recovered from the trash bag have also led authorities to believe that Baby Doe spent time in several of the New England states, and not solely the Greater Boston area as it was originally believed, according to WCSH 6.

Last week, it was reported that a redesigned digital highway billboard featuring the photograph of Baby Doe will be displayed in 50 different locations across Massachusetts.

The billboard includes a picture of the black-and-white polka dots she was wearing when found, as well as the words 'Remember me? Then please tell the police!' and the number for a tip line.

State police said the intent for the redesign was to help keep Baby Doe in people's mind.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240091/Official-Girl-dead-Boston-Harbor-shore-identified.html

Anonymous said...

I just read that they think her death was intentional and not accidental and not something that was natural causes. that the mother and boyfriend immediately started blaming each other. poor little girl. i'm so glad she gets her name and her dignity back and hopefully justice. she really looked well taken care of and healthy and was big for 2 going on 3. i also read that the mother had changed when her boyfriend came into the picture.

Anonymous said...

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2015/09/gov_sad_day_as_baby_doe_idd_as_bella_of

Baby Doe, the toddler found dead on Deer Island this summer, has been identified as "Bella" by Gov. Charlie Baker, who added the state's embattled child-welfare agency had been involved with her family in the past.

Baker said the developments mark a "sad day" in the case that has captured international attention.

"The only good thing I could say about this is we seem to have ... the beginning of what I would call closure for her," Baker told reporters at a press conference today.

Speaker of the House Robert DeLeo, who lives in Winthrop where the child was found, said the boyfriend of Bella's mother was at Beth Israel Hospital for "drug issues" and that police had tracked the mother down in Lynn.

"The mother and the boyfriend started blaming each other in terms of who harmed the child," DeLeo said. Asked if Bella was the victim of an accident or intentional harm, DeLeo said, "I got the impression (from police) it was deliberate."

The speaker confirmed the girl's name as Bella Bond. The boyfriend's name, he added, is Michael McCarthy.

Authorities have not announced the mohter's whereabouts or if she faces any charges. Her identity has yet to be officially divulged.

The girl's 44-year-old aunt told the Herald this afternoon she can also confirm Baby Doe was her little niece. She said Bella was about 5 years old.

"Oh, my God, I can't believe it," Bella's aunt, Tamera Bond, said. "I thought the picture looked like Bella, but Bella was a little chubbier."

A law enforcement official said investigators worked through the night on the case when they got a solid tip and more may be coming today.

A Dorchester woman said state police came to her apartment complex last night to ask questions about Bella.

Siomy Torres said she lived in the Maxwell Street building on the Dorchester-Mattapan line since June 2014. She said state police showed up at her home and started questioning her about her neighbor's daughter.

"I got a knock on my door at 9 o'clock at night asking me questions about them, they told me they were looking for the little girl, and asked me if I'd seen her," Torres said.

She said state police showed her the composite picture of Baby Doe and she recognized it.

"I haven't seen her in months. I usually hear her because her room is against the backside of my apartment. I usually hear her crying or running around the house and I haven't heard that," Torres said. "I used to see her every day. Running around."

Torres said when she stopped seeing the girl she assumed the girl was taken by DCF.

Boston police Commissioner William Evans said today BPD turned over "information" to state police that led them to Maxwell Street.

Jake Wark, spokesman for Suffolk District Attorney Dan Conley, said today the investigation "remains very active."

On June 25, a woman walking her dog on Deer Island called police after finding the girl's body in a trash bag. Police believe the girl was about 4 years old.

The case has prompted tens of thousands of tips, many on leads from across the country and a few from as far flung as Europe, police have said.

Anonymous said...

continued....

The composite photo of what the girl would have looked like has been shared hundreds of thousands of times and viewed 54 million times since its initial posting by the state police on the department's Facebook site.

A spokeswoman for the state Department of Children and Families confirmed the embattled agency had worked with Bella's family.

"Since June, the Department has been working closely with law enforcement on exploring dozens of leads in hopes to identify the little girl found on Deer Island. Now that we know her name, the story is no less tragic. DCF has not had an open case with this family for over two years, but did have brief involvement with Baby Bella as an infant. Our thoughts are with Bella’s extended family as the investigation into her death continues," said Rhonda Mann, DCF spokesperson.

DCF had contact with Bella twice -- both times for "support for neglect" cases, according to department officials. It first had contact between August 2012 and December 2012 and then again from June 2013 to September 2013, according to DCF officials.

The department did a sweep of all open cases when Bella's body was first discovered, according to officials. Since Bella's case was closed, she was not involved in the DCF sweep, officials said.

Between 2001 and 2006, the department terminated parental rights regarding Bella's mother's other children, according to officials. Both children were adopted by their maternal grandmother, officials say.

Anonymous said...

I transcribed the full interview below:

IR: And we are joined now by Victor Rojas, Michael Moreno and their attorney, Jesse Hernandez. Thank you all for joining us. You know, that video is so shocking to so many people. Victor, I just want to know, what, what was going through your mind at that moment?

Victor: I didn’t..I don’t.. I don’t... I couldn’t explain it.

IR: Can’t explain it?

Victor: [Inaudible]

IR: Just weren’t thinking?

Victor: I was doing what I was told.

IR: Doing what you were told?

Victor: Yes, sir.

IR: By whom?

Victor: Well, a player had came over and told me that the coach said that, to do, do what happened.

IR: The coach told you to do it?

Victor: Yes, sir.

IR: And Michael?

Michael: Uh, well, when it was all like happening, like, I just realized, you know, the gravity of the situation, you know, like, like, this was actually happening, and, like, I couldn’t fully go through with it, so like at the end, I pulled up a lot, you know, like, knowing what’s actually, like, going on. And it was just, it was hard for me, you know, during the whole thing, just, to actually do what I did, and you know, to this day I regret it, you know, it’s one of my biggest regrets, and I just- it’s been affecting my life greatly, you know.

IR: Victor said your coach told you to do it?

Michael: Uh, yes, that’s correct.

IR: What did he say?

Michael: Well, before, you know, I had got put into the game, or, um, the previous safety that was in, uh, he had got injured and um, while on the sideline, he pulled me and another player over and he, um, he told us, and I quote, um, “you need to hit him.” Uh-

IR: Another player said this, not the coach?

Michael: No, no, the coach.

IR: The coach.

Michael: Uh, he told- he pulled me and another player and told us, um, you, you need to hit the ref, you know, he needs to pay the price.

IR: For what?

Michael: Uh, just for everything that’s been going on in the game, there was racial slurs being thrown at, you know, players, from this referee. Uh, there was, you know, unjustified calls, you know, it was just a lot that was going on and I guess his emotions got, you know, mixed into it, and he told us, you know, to do what we did.

IR: A lot of people would say, boy, the coach told you to do that, but you knew it was wrong, right?

Michael: You know, you put your trust into this, you know, grown up, you know, a guardian, uh, your coach, who’s been there since, for me, since my sophomore or freshman year. And, um, you know, I, I trust him, you know, that he wants the best for me, and I just do- did what I was told.

IR: The referee, as you know, has said he didn’t use any racial slurs. Did you hear the referee use any racial slurs?

Victor: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He told one of my Hispanic friends, he told him, um, speak English, this is America. He got told that. And then, to- there was a-

IR: Did you hear that, or did one of your friends tell you that?

Victor: No, I heard it. And um, and then, to a, to an African American, on my team, he told them the n-word.

IR: And you heard that? You heard him say the n-word?

Victor: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

IR: Did you?

Michael: Uh, yes, I had, um, heard him when he had called, um, Moses, Reynolds, you know, the n-word. And, uh, it was just really-

IR: He says that’s a lie.

Michael: It’s not, it’s the honest truth right there, and I wouldn’t lie about this situation, like, just how bad it’s gotten, like, the truth needs to be told.

(Continued)...

Anonymous said...

IR: What do you think should happen now?

Michael: You can’t just do that because of something you were told. But, you know, and, I’m ready to face my consequences, I just ask, that, like, I am greatly sorry for this, and I regret it greatly. And I just hope that, people can change their minds about us, and, that, you know, lighten up our consequences.

IR: Up until this moment you’ve had a pretty great record at school, you’re in the honor society.

Michael: Yes, sir.

IR: What more do you want people to know about you and what happened?

Michael: Well, this, everyone sees me as this thug, you know, or gangster, and, you know, I did this because I’m a bad guy. Like, that’s not who I am. Like, underneath the helmet and the pads, you know, I’m really a great kid, like, you know, school is my first priority, you know, I, um, aspire to be an aerospace engineer.

IR: And if you could speak with the referee, Robert Watts, right now, what would you say to him?

Victor: Uh, I would apologize for the mistake that I made

IR: The boys now are still under investigation within the school district, and even some have said possible criminal investigation. Where does it all stand right now?

Jesse Hernandez: Right now everything’s still up in the air. The county attorney has not yet decided what type of charges if any are going to be filed. Uh, the school district is still waiting to have our hearing. Uh, but they also have the discretion to let these boys go back to school. And that’s what we think’s best.

IR: Michael has said he wants to pay the right consequences. What do you think is the appropriate punishment?

Jesse Hernandez: I think they’ve paid the appropriate punishment already. They’ve suffered three days of suspension. They’ve been in an alternative school for a week. They’re excluded from playing football for the rest of the season. I, I think that’s enough. They’ve apologized, they’re sorry. They didn’t mean to do this. Um, I think they’ve been punished fairly enough.

IR: And if you could take back that moment?

Michael: Of course.

Victor: I would take it away.

Michael: Without a, without a thought, I would.

IR: Thank you all very much.

All: Thank you.

K.M.

Sara said...

Thanks for the full transcript. I think them claiming to have actually heard the ref use slurs was deceptive. I think it was telling when he said "because of what you're told" he didn't say cause of what the ref said, he also didn't say cause of what he was told to do.
I think the coach and players were butt hurt and talking smack about the ref. The boys may believe they were doing what the coach wanted them to do. Coach may have manipulated the boys, knowing how the boys would respond, wanting the boys to hurt the ref but didn't directly tell them to do it but told them indirectly. This reminds me of a guy I knew who attacked another male after the guys girlfriend told him the male had tried to rape her. The male didn't do anything except hurt her feelings by telling her to get lost after she came onto him. So she got the male beat up. She knew exactly what her guy would do after she told him her story. She didn't even have to tell her guy to beat him up.
This seems like that same type of scenario.

Juliet said...

Victor: No, I heard it. And um, and then, to a, to an African American, on my team, he told them the n-word.

'He told them the n-word' seems all wrong, to,me. I'd expect 'called' rather than 'told' and 'him' rather than 'them'.

I agree with Sara, above, the coach may have manipulated the boys, knowing how they would respond, but without actually telling them to do what they did. I think the use of 'grown-up' is by advice, and generally that it's pathetic for kids this age to be saying 'he told me to do it' - equally pathetic of the coach to get kids to do his bidding, even if it was only by suggestion rather than directly, relying on them wanting to please him.

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Bella at least now has the dignity of her name - how tragic that it took so long for the wider family to become aware of her absence.

Anonymous said...

Juliet-

Make sure you listen to the video yourself regarding that particular statement. I listened to this segment carefully several times and I believe "told" is the word he used; however, Victor mumbled at several points during the interview and was nearly inaudible. Sometimes he was completely inaudible.

I also struggled with the end of this sentence, which everyone may want to listen to for themselves:

"Victor: Well, a player had came over and told me that the coach said that, to do, do what happened."

I find Michael's response to the question evasive:

"
IR: The coach told you to do it?

Victor: Yes, sir.

IR: And Michael?

Michael: Uh, well, when it was all like happening, like, I just realized, you know, the gravity of the situation, you know, like, like, this was actually happening, and, like, I couldn’t fully go through with it, so like at the end, I pulled up a lot, you know, like, knowing what’s actually, like, going on. And it was just, it was hard for me, you know, during the whole thing, just, to actually do what I did, and you know, to this day I regret it, you know, it’s one of my biggest regrets, and I just- it’s been affecting my life greatly, you know."

The interviewer asks him again:

"IR: Victor said your coach told you to do it?

Michael: Uh, yes, that’s correct."

This "uh" is a fairly long pause, considering the simplicity of the question and his previous evasiveness.

I found this statement to be highly deceptive:

IR: He says that’s a lie.

Michael: It’s not, it’s the honest truth right there, and I wouldn’t lie about this situation, like, just how bad it’s gotten, like, the truth needs to be told.

"Honest truth", "I wouldn't lie', and the passivity of "the truth needs to be told" indicate deception to me.

K.M.

sidewalk super said...


Do you think the white house (as presently constituted, sadly) will invite
this group to visit in the near future?
In spite of the haircuts, could they be
the sons of bho?

tania cadogan said...

"Victor: Well, a player had came over and told me that the coach said that, to do, do what happened."

Oops

Right here he tells the interviewer a player had told him what the coach allegedly told him(the player) NOT the coach directly

Well at the start of a sentence is also a pause word, used to buy time whilst tye subject thinks of the answer/response.

Who is the player who came over?

more sidewalk said...



Ah, invite the fictional sons to visit with
the muslim activist's clock/bomb (er, bomb/clock)
making son.
Maybe for a little cross training in disruptive
techniques under the guise of rewarding supposed
victims of racism?

Juliet said...

K.M - thanks for the transcript. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to watch the video as it says it isn't available for viewing from my location - I can only go on the transcript.
:-/

tania cadogan said...

I saw the item and it looked more like a bomb than a clock.

It was not clear what it was as all that could be seen was a large digital readout and a lot of wires and stuff, all in a case.

If you are not engineering minded or tech aware, you would see it as a timing device for a bomb.

he was told not to show it to others yet he did so, he knew what would be thought on seeing it, that it would likely be seen as a weapon.
He would know about all the scares in schools as well as attacks.

He did this for attention and he is getting it, even to meeting the president.

Would obama have invited a non muslim pupil 6to the white house if they had done the exact same thing?

Would he have done it if it had been a white pupil?

Hell no.

All those claiming it is clear it was a clock, would they be saying the same thing if it was a white student?

Would they be claiming he was harmless and the teachers had overreacted if someone else copied his idea and blown up a school?

Would they be supporting him if it turns out to be a dry run and next time he blows something up?:

Would he be allowed on a flight with that in his luggage?
Will he be allowed in the white house with it?
Will he have it pretty much stripped down to check for explosives as well as himself if he visits the white house?
Will he claim racism and religious hatred if he is searched?

Juliet said...

I haven't followed the clock kid story in detail (too pre-occupied with DeOrr) so don't have much to opine over - I did have one thought, which was that he was a bit old for that junior science sort of stuff - clock making, clock making kits, show and tell your home made clock - it's for eight to ten year olds, methinks. It was junior science in my schooldays, and in my kids' school days, and they are all more tech-savvy even younger now - so, a bit elementary. I'd expect his classmates to not be too impressed at his 'invention'.

rob said...

I think the football players are lying and the referee needs to press charges. The coach should be fired and the players should never be allowed to play sports again. It's the common play of the day to play the race card and it's getting old. If 2 white players had done the same to a black ref, THEN we'd be hearing from the white house. Even so, the players may get the invite.

Clock boy also may a play in my opinion, and now is getting even more than he hoped for. I look fwd to the future seeing him either do his own terrorist attack or joining up with ISIS. Be interesting to see whats regularly googled on the family computer. I'm betting its more about bomb-making than clock-making. I know I always want to carry a digital clock around in a brief case for easy time-telling.

What the heck is this country coming to???
All only my opinion .

another anon said...

Rob.
right on...

(don't you kinda wonder if the white house of present has huge finders fees offered to all who bring him active examples that support bho's increasingly negative view of the United States of America?)