Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Amanda Blackburn Murder & Pronouns Examined


Question for Analysis: 

Is it possible that the husband of murder victim Amanda Blackburn uses the pronoun "we" because he sees himself as connected to divinity?

Let's examine this. 

The more one speaks, the more sample we have for analysis, and the broader the reference point or "baseline" we have to work with. 

Pronouns are intuitive and are used to solve crimes.  How powerful are pronouns?

When someone goes from "I" to "we" without any contextual justification, it is due to guilt.  This is commonly found in case after case, from murder to theft, and is so common, in fact, that parents and teachers pick it up in children. 

It is done to either hide within a crowd, or spread out the guilt, psychologically, as it lessens the impact of guilt. This guilt is not always the 'conscience' or cognizance of having failed morally, but a negative reaction in some solely wishing not to be caught.  True sociopaths feel this stress or guilt, as it is commonly called, even if they care for no one other than their own selves. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, there is a list of coincidence which investigators say point to this murder being not random nor exclusively a home invasion.  Here is why:

Home invasions are for the purpose of quick profit.  

Investigators say most home invasions target the victim specifically for wealth, especially for cash, as in drug dealers.  Others will grab the most valuable easily carried and pawned items for quick sale.  The younger the invaders, the more unpredictable, including the penchant for violence. However, sexual homicide is not something expected to be seen.  

In this murder, a reporter disclosed "sexual assault" which was later on refuted.  

The removal of the victim's clothing is a sexual assault unless there is another explanation such as "staging", or corpse removal.  Since she was left still alive, corpse removal is not likely.  This leaves sexual assault or appearance (staging) of sexual assault and the journalist was correct, even if no forensic evidence is conclusive.  Was this an intended rape?  Did she fight off the rapist who then shot her?

Yet, even this is strange:  she was shot three times.  

The point of shooting her more than once was to kill her; as a single shot would likely end any fight or struggle, and speaks more to an execution.  

Police had video of the shooter or gang, outside the home, and knew, with "100% accuracy" that the husband, Davey Blackburn, was not the shooter. 

Video tape evidence at the gym showed him there during the time period of which the victim was likely shot.  This was something, while the shooter was not arrested, was stated with emphasis by police:  removing doubt that Blackburn was the shooter, but the investigation had to continue.  They needed to learn:

Why was Amanda Blackburn murdered?  

This would eventually answer more questions, including:  Is the husband responsible for the murder?

This is the question that has been debated greatly in newsgroups.  

Circumstantial:

1.  The husband was obsessed with work.
2.  The wife complained of his obsession with work.
3.  The husband said it was a bad marriage and gave specific sexual complaints against her. 
4.  The husband said the marriage got worse with pregnancy.
5.  Pregnancy demands interfere with work obsession. 
6.  The husband said he had sexual temptation at the gym. 
7.  The wife was shot while he was at the gym. 
8.  The husband brandished a gun at work 2 days prior. 
9.  The wife died from a gun. Criminal psychologists ask "Was this on his mind at the time?"
10. The husband spent one hour, each Tuesday, on the phone with the same person, the day Amanda was killed.  On this day, however, the bulk of the call was in the driveway:  he did not enter the home.  

The wife became pregnant, again, and now is removed from the equation. 

Linguistically, Blackburn uses the language of guilt.  

1.  Distance from the victim 
2.  Subtle disparagement of the victim 
3.  Distance language from family
4.  Distance language from impact 
5.  No linguistic fear of killer 
6.  Pronouns

Pronouns. 

In repeated statements and questions related to the murder of Amanda, Blackburn uses the pronoun "we", rather than "I", even when seated alone. 

When asked about what it felt like, "as a man of God" to be investigated, he said,

"For us, we have nothing to hide."

This begs the question, "who is 'us'?" and "who is 'we'?" by the news broadcaster.  

It was not asked. 

Recently, Blackburn spoke about a direct revelation he had from God.  The analysis of such is found here: Deception Indicated.

To indicate deception in this "revelation" the subject must know and show awareness that he intends to deceive people. 

He began with "I had a thought", which went to "God spoke to my heart", as if an impression, but once qualified, he then gave direct quotes.  This is to claim direct revelation from God, Himself, and then he used this "Divine Authority" or marching orders to not only declare a vision, but to insult an entire church in front of its pastor, his father-in-law:  the victim's father. 

This is to show himself "above", both in authority and in 'relation to God', to the man who may suspect him in dispatching his daughter.  By using the 2 qualifiers, he did what deceptive people do, with rapid transmission:  gave himself an out. 

This is a signal that he is well rehearsed in deception and may be a pathological liar. 

Note the import of the lie:  it made him and his company a historical figure of prominence. 

Now consider that in this short speech, the use of the pronoun "I" was used, and in it, God used his first name, which is given for emphasis.  

He then said that the murder victim died so the church could come to life.  It was a trade in which he used sensitive emphasis, or the need to persuade, that it is something he would not have done. 

Please note:  

To this, he was "alone" in his pronoun use. 

He, alone, spoke to God.
He, alone, will pastor the "army" that will go forth in historical manner. 

When he addresses Amanda's murder, he is "we" and he is "us", who has "nothing to hide."

When a 13 year old boy stands before his junior high school principal and says, "I have nothing to hide" it is a signal to see what's in his locker, on his person, etc.  The crude remark is, "he has a turd in his pocket" when he said that.  

It is a linguistic signal that the subject, at this moment, is thinking of things he does not want known and is concerned about them being found.  We note what topic (context) produces this response.  

When this arises with the plural pronoun, it indicates:

a.  That there is something, or some things, hidden, of which the subject does not want known
b.  That the subject is thinking of this hidden item in correlation with someone else; or
c.  That which is hidden produces guilt of which the guilt is mitigated by a crowd.  

Analysis Question:  Given the 'divine revelation' claim, is it possible that Blackburn sees himself as 'one' with God, or in some strange way, a 'trinity' of sorts, or even of such divine cooperation that he is so close that this would produce the pronoun "we" in his language?


Answer:  No.  This is not supported by the context. 

We look at what produces the pronoun "we" in his language, versus what produces the normal, "I" in his language and we find, consistently, a need to 'go plural' regarding the murder and its impact.  

It is alarming that he has now found a "justification" for the victim's death.  The "murder" (that which he called an 'event'  or 'situation' early on) was something that "baffled the family", but now, not only does he know "why" she died, but her death is 'good' for his career, something he has obsessed about repeatedly. 

Objection:  Maybe the hurt is so bad that he retreats to the plural?

Answer:   The truth is the opposite.  

The murder of a wife is 'up close' and 'personal' and as we are possessive creatures, even against all 'political correctness', husbands and wives claim personal ownership over each other.  The second most 'personal' death would be that of a biological child. 

In language, this is where we hear "I", most often, even when a spouse is seated with other family members.  

The other family members do not have the same close personal connection with the victim as the spouse.  

The same is seen in child deaths.  

In using emotional language in a you tube video, he expressed a stronger emotional pronoun about the failure to obtain numbers for his company, with this "disappointment" connected to reliably with the pronoun "I"; and in context, the negative comparison was with 'souls saved', which revealed priority and obsession. 

In the claim of having a conversation with God, he gives signals of deception which indicates that he knows this is not true, and needs not only to convince the audience, but will have a technical "out" upon being challenged.  "I said it was a 'thought'!"  This is commonly used in deceptive advertising today.  It is sometimes used conversationally in insults where the subject later says, "I was only kidding" having done the damage and communicated the message. 

That the murder victim lost her 'life so the church could live' is not simply of concern to orthodox Christianity which teaches that Christ died to give life, but to criminal investigators as to possible motive. 

Blackburn's use of pronouns, as well as his rapidity of transmission suggests a history of successful deception and may be a pathological liar. 

A motive for possible connection to the shooter, even through various layers and connections to criminal elements, that should be considered is the profit to be gained from her death. 

In his first statement, he used her death for advertising purposes and has consistently done so since.  

Criminal investigators look into any possible planning and preparation, even while looking at the profile of one:

a.  Does he have a history of lying?
b.  Does he have a history of narcissism?
c.  Is there a history of... and it goes on looking into all possibilities leading to,

"Can we locate a connection between the shooter, his gang and any adult, including the husband?" 

The final pronoun objection is this:

The pronoun use of "we" is delusional. 

This is not evidenced in the language.  The delusional will not use qualifiers such as "I had a thought" and "felt like...my heart..."  They do not show, in language, the need to deceive when speaking under clinical delusion.  

The delusional will speak of voices, directly and commands.  In the delusional, it is often difficult to pick up deception. "The angel Gabriel came to me today and said..." was told to me in an interview.  The subject was delusional but the sentence structure shows no intention of deception.  This is where lie detection picks up its signals:  intent to deceive.  

When we commonly speak of 'delusions of grandeur' it is not in the clinical sense of delusion.  It can be a young boy believing against evidence that he will be a professional sports star, or someone who simply has a confidence that he or she is born to greatness yet unfulfilled.  This expression is commonly used to describe extreme ego, but it is not to say that the person is delusional. 

This was seen in the Casey Anthony trial where the women interrupted it and was given a light sentence under the claim of "not knowing what she was doing" because she was off her medication.  

She knew how to get dressed, and knew which streets to navigate to get to the address of the court house.  She knew which courthouse room to enter.  She knew what time it started.  She knew the television cameras were on.  

It showed planning. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, investigators explore any possible planning involved.  

The original question posed about the use of the plural pronoun having connection to 'divine' association is viewed in context which allows the subject to answer the question, himself, via his own language.  

In connection to having a personal conversation with God, he does not retreat to 'we', as he did in questions related to the victim's murder, or its impact upon him, or his son. 

Investigators should be very concerned about his public justification of Amanda's murder. 

While all things eventually come together to produce good is a long term act of faith, which cannot see what possible good can come of something like this, calling the faithful to trust, here we have something investigators must consider as motive: 

that Amanda died so his company would grow. 

Davey Blackburn has not been charged, nor implicated by police as having any connection to the murder of Amanda Blackburn.   Blackburn, himself, has not only advertised the murder for his own profit, but has made all of these statements available to the public for their opinion and judgement to be exercised.  

Although I do not know if he has any indirect association to the murder, I am alarmed by the coincidental nature of the case, the language of guilt, and the justification of her murder, under the veil of religious language.  

In my own work, I recognize that "for us, we have nothing to hide" is not simply the language of guilt, but of something hidden.  That which is hidden may not be association to Amanda's killers.

It is something, but I have yet to conclude what I think it is. 

I am bothered by the new 'motive' and justification for Amanda's death; not because of Christian blasphemy; from a deceptive one deception will come, but because it so quickly turns something so ugly into something 'positive.'

Far too little time has elapsed for such. 

The need to justify is sometimes found in the language of killers.  It is predominantly hidden, or subtle, but it is often there. The one exception I have learned from is Tammy Moorer:  she justified the killing of Heather Elvis openly.  This is the only example I have seen in which, prior to arrest, one has spoken thus.  

This is more the language of one convicted who has exhausted appeals and the truth comes out. 

Every other example I have studied and taught to investigators is subtle, teaching them to look for quiet, small words used to justify the homicide; especially domestic homicides. 

In shaken baby syndrome, the baby is blamed for not 'cooperating'; in child molestation the child 'flirted'; 
In teenagers killed or abused, 'hormones' are cited. 

When one dies, people, especially loved ones, speak only the positive, quickly forgetting the flaws. 

That Amanda was "not well read" (which justifies the humiliation she experienced on video) is a subtle insult of her intellect.  

That the husband is so driven as to even use 'sloganism' in her death is concerning.  

Cold case detectives have to have thick skin.  

By virtue of their work, they 'criticize' the failure of others.  


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Anonymous said...

At the first, I thought when Davey kept referring to "we" when there was no one else with him nor were any names given; that he was off-handedly referring to the families as being in agreement with him and was speaking as spokesman for all of them without saying so.

It did not occur to me that he was thinking of himself as being so close with, and in communication with 'divine authority' thata being God himself, that he actually thought he could speak as 'we' for God as being in communication with him.

I still have my doubts about this, seeing how clever, crafty, sneaky, mean, scheming and evil he is; however, I do recognize that it is possible that he has been so badly deceived by his father the devil into believing that he has this one-on-one with God Almighty himself that he might actually have come to believe this great deceit and lie of the devil.

It is a known that among psychiatrists/psychologists, that there are some so twisted spiritually and/or emotionally that they really do believe they have these conversations with God, and in some cases the devil himself, and will act on these conversational directives.

There are also psychiatrists/psychologists who cannot classify a certain type of mental illness and will ultimately declare a patent evil, finding no other definition for their mental illness they can place them under. However, not being a professional in this field, I am not qualified to even speculate, I just know I DO see evil in Davey Blackburn. REAL evil, that can only come from one source and that is NOT God. ABB

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Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:25
There are plenty of other sites on the web where you can read about hundreds of different cases at any given time. It just so happens that Peter is currently looking in-depth at the Blackburn case and personally, I'm thankful that he is! Keep up the good work, Peter!

Amy Smith said...

What's childish is to belittle intellectial analysis and discussion as trivial things like DB coffee tastes. We're discussing a pastor who justifies his wife's murder, saying he believes "wholeheartedly that Amanda gave her life to see Indianapolis changed."

Anonymous said...

There aren't hundreds of other SA websites. Yes, keep up the good work, Peter.

Anonymous said...

Yet, even this is strange: she was shot three times.

The point of shooting her more than once was to kill her; as a single shot would likely end any fight or struggle, and speaks more to an execution.

There were three of them- a liars number. She was shot three times-by a liar, that is.

Why executed? Some people do not heal from fingernail scratches and the intruder's life was endanger when white women don't do what nigga say.

maudes harold said...

Amanda and Davey??

http://www.higherperspectives.com/narcissist-and-empath-1496521297.html

" I'm an empath, and I think narcissists are special. It may seem kind of silly, but the narcissist, the one so focused on how great they are, is actually profoundly wounded. Something in childhood got to them. It unraveled them. It damaged them. And so now they seek validation.

But here I am. I'm an empath. I'm a healer. I absorb what other people are feeling it and feel it as if it were my own. My own pain, my own anguish, my own hurt. Narcissists rarely know an empath's boundaries. It makes us easy to bond with. We eat their pain like breakfast lunch and dinner.

What I always forget when I love a narcissist is that they're takers. They don't give much back. They look to you to fix them. They're never fixed though. This leaves the empath now shattered and losing touch with their empathy. It's how narcissists are born. It's hard to escape from

At the end of the day, the narcissist is going to be manipulative. They desire deeply to be in a position of control. All an empath really wants is love and to be loved. I want to heal people. I want to care for people. But narcissists grow stronger from love like mine. Their damage is never healed, but they feel better about themselves.

But a narcissist never makes a true connection to their authentic selves. They will walk away from almost every relationship once they realize they can't control their partner anymore. It's no longer a fun game.

It's just not possible for the two to bond. "

GeekRad said...

I can't draw a conclusion as to DB's possible connection to the murder but I concur, there are too many coincidences, guilty language when referring to Amanda and Davey's strange behavior showing no grief. That is enough for me to hope that investigators are looking at DB and availing themselves to the benefit of this blog.

Anonymous said...

Amy, step down from your high horse for a second and and stop being so aggressive and manipulative in your responses. I understand your desire to see the Blackburn case through but it really is OK for other people to suggest the Blackburn analysis has run its course. Perhaps the question should have been written minus the poor attempts at humor: "Peter, while I appreciate your Blackburn analysis, I am interested to know if/when you will be covering other high-profile cases? Thank you."

Amy Smith said...

It has not run its course. DB keeps speaking and making videos.

Amy Smith said...

About Amanda's murder

Anonymous said...

Amy is from Texas and seeks the child molesters within the religion sectors of her cause. The Blackburn case is near and dear to her as many think just because they are in church everything is godly; it isn't.

However, parents should be near their children until they are properly trained in how to handle themselves when evil comes knocking. This should be the focus instead of how awful the evil is. Evil will always be there.

"Don't let the screen door hit you in the azz on your way out." Proper cut-down, imo.No need to butcher it.

Anonymous said...

DB doesn't have to stop doing what he does because others grip and bitch over his pronoun usage. This is America. He can preach about whatever god he chooses, when he chooses, and use media as he chooses.

SA newb said...

I had interpreted DB's use of "we" as him representing the church community he pastors, but Peter's SA makes sense to me.

It is not that DB claims to have spoken with God that seems off, it is the focus of the content of the conversation.
The content of the conversation provides: Justification for Amanda's death. It was "God's Plan" and this relieves DB of any guilt.

I am not unfamiliar with people who view death as a positive, as a better place than being alive on Earth. I understand the attempt to turn something that seems tragic in to a positive. Yet, the folks I know who have this approach when dealing with the death of a loved on, always express gratitude for their loved ones life. They always say, 'I am so thankful for the time we had', 'I so appreciate the life that was lived'.

DB had a direct convo with God about Amanda's death and never thought to say, 'Hey God, thanks so much for giving me the time I had with her', or "I am forever grateful for the mother of my child and my beautiful wife".
The focus of the conversation was motive, interesting.

Anonymous said...

DITTO & thank you Mr. Peter!

MsDp

Amy Smith said...

Or, "Why her God?! Why? Why not me? Why did Amanda have to give her life for the church to live? Why not me?"

Peter Hyatt said...

Please avoid entanglement.

I appreciate the "DB is not involved" comments because we want the truth and these arguments can help.

When one has no argument they use tangents, including ridicule. I have long learned a valuable lesson from a journalist.

She did not like my analysis so she reported a single 2 day training as my qualification. Its intent was to ridicule me and I wanted to list off my own history but realized that she had known this anyway. The more I say the more she will twist or leave out.

When someone disagrees, presenting the reasons can be a strong help. But simple insults emboldened through the anonymous are not worthy of answers.

The analysis cannot be correct because Peter has brown hair. Then someone says, "No, he does not. He has auburn hair..." and the victory is awarded to the one who moved the conversation away from truth seeking.

There are times when we look at the messenger, but that comes after the message has been answered successfully and we look for possible motive. A few weeks back on the radio, Heather heard a vet talking about the latest study that showed how great corn is for dogs. He even claimed that chicken beaks are "high with protein, you know, the quality kind!" and on he went.

The study quoted was funded by...

you guessed it.

The company who listens #1 ingredient as "corn" and "chicken meal by products"...

Don't get caught up in the tangent. Eventually, they get deleted and if put in Spam filter, the IP address will no longer be able to post here.

When a post begins, "I know you will probably delete this..." the poster is correct.
"Peter has lost all credibility"
"Statement Analysts never say..."

There are four volunteers who moderate the comments, and they rotate. They get four letter words and false assertions, insults, taunts, etc....

If you copy and paste, you'll end up deleted, too! (one is really good at deleting the passive aggressive comments! She can spot 'em a mile away....These are most evident where someone is embittered over perceived 'unfairness' but cannot find a way to disagree with the conclusion; mostly a political or movie star type). Some will use sharp humor to point out how their favorite _____ is now undone, which is a good way of showing our disappointment. Hey, I once rooted for Lance!

Statement Analysis stands up to high public scrutiny, as it should!

Experts from across our nation read here including people you've all heard of. Their opinions are helpful, feedback is taken into consideration, learning continues, and so on.

Keep learning. Be open. Try to argue against your own point.

I began the Blackburn case rooting against the husband's involvement, emotionally. His words were upsetting, and the more I heard him, the more suspicious I became until now, my conclusion is that if he is NOT involved, something will come out and that which was hidden will be known.

Even if the case is closed, the cold case detectives will take over and eventually look again to see if there is a connection.

Blackburn has done his best to look suspicious and keep us talking!

Peter

Anonymous said...

@12:24, what do you mean? Why would Peter need stitches? I haven't followed the Hailey Dunn case in great depth.

Amy Smith said...

Is DB the sole admin for the Resonate Church Facebook page?

On the morning of the shooting on 11/10, someone posted to the church Facebook page. My time stamp says 7:00 am but I am CT. So this would be 8 am ET in Indy.

https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253389738020105

Who posted this and from where?

Anonymous said...

I think the indication of deception when DB says that God spoke to him,runs deep. I watched the "sermon" he gave @ FBC in Elkart last year. The complete lack of reverance and blatant disrespect he has for The Eternal Author of ALL Existance has me convinced that he doesn't even believe
in the product he's peddling for profit.

This is one blaring example.

*****In that video DB mocks Yahoshua(who he calls Jesus) as having a bad case of gas after eating tacos. He leans to the side and says "Jesus" needed to lift a cheek...then he goes on to make the joke about Him getting one of his disciples to pull his finger.*******

I would not be surprised if deception isn't indicated every time he states a belief in,reverance for or relationship with the Creator.

KK

Amy Smith said...

I found this post because my blog post is linked here:

http://theoldblackchurch.blogspot.com/2015/12/fix-it-jesus-davey-blackburn-said-god.html

excerpt:
God didn't take Amanda's "breath in order to breathe life into the church....Jesus did that." Are we to believe God's divine plan viciously murdered a devoted Christian, pregnant mother in order to fill more seats in the church?! I've heard it all now!

Anonymous said...

Peter can you analyze the video statement posted yesterday? BC

D said...

Amy great question about who post on the resonate fb page. I also wonder who replied back to the person. Why would one use a explanation mark, I don't want to nitpick but seriously. Who would have time, or be emotionally well enough to go on FB after just 3 days of Amanda being murdered.

Amy Smith said...

new tv story out:

Davey Blackburn opens up about wife, says God will use her death as force for change

http://fox59.com/2015/12/09/davey-blackburn-opens-up-about-wife-says-god-will-use-her-death-as-force-for-change/

Amy Smith said...

DB says he was in the driveway on the phone at the time of that Facebook posting (8:00 am) according to probable cause documents.

Where was this FB post posted from? What device?

rosy said...

Amy Smith said
at Amy Smith said...
at December 9, 2015 at 12:31 PM
Is DB the sole admin for the Resonate Church Facebook page?
On the morning of the shooting on 11/10, someone posted to the church Facebook page. My time stamp says 7:00 am but I am CT. So this would be 8 am ET in Indy.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253389738020105
Who posted this and from where?

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Facebook page posts can be pre-scheduled:

How do I schedule a post for my Page?

You can create a post and schedule it to publish on your Page in the future. Keep in mind that all times correspond to the current time zone you're in.
https://www.facebook.com/help/389849807718635

Anonymous said...

Amy Smith,

Based on the writing and wording on the Resonate page during the time of the events, it matches the writing of Davey's initial statement that he presented immediately after Amanda's death. Strangely enough, it also is similar to Meg Griffith's writing style from her Etsy shop as well. So my bet would be that either Davey or Meg posts under the Resonate page IMO.

Anonymous said...

This is why Peter would need time after hitting the publish button:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/waco-bikers-attorney-essentially-poured-the-f-out-in-hearing-to-remove-biased-judges/

They aren't going to give up their criminal fake charities for no one at no time.

The man was also caught papering businesses with "white only" stickers as to imply he can dupe business into donating, too.

I saw where one group threatened a buisness owner when they took down one of their "missing posters" as to assume no one would blow her head off her shoulders because she has some scuzzy tatted biker friends.

Amy Smith said...

The title of the posting on the Facebook page (at the time AB lay dying) gave me chills when I first saw it a few weeks ago:

Strings Week 2: Head and Heart | Resonate Church

https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253389738020105

Amy Smith said...

Subtitle:

We'll do whatever it takes to connect people to life change

https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253389738020105

Sus said...

Anon (kk) 12:38,
I agree. I also believe DB does not believe what he is selling.

Words from DB in an Insider Fox interview.
"...man, do I really believe this stuff? And um, and I can honestly say through all of this WE do."

Note he calls it stuff. Note the ands and ums, and honestly, which indicates he hasn't always been honest. Then he can't say "I do." He says, We do.

"...and the peace that we feel is, it's testimony to um, um Jesus is real in OUR hearts. And I've looked at our family. I've looked at our friends and I'm like, I see peace and I see joy in THEIR hearts through all of this."

Notice again that Jesus is real in OUR and THEIR hearts. Davey does not say in "my heart."

mom2many said...

If charged, I'd like to see Davey try an insanity defense. Successful insanity defenses are able to prove that the individual lacked knowledge of right and wrong due to the state of mind at the time of the crime. Low and behold, we have a witness who was speaking with Davey at the time of the crime, who would be called to testify to Davey's state of mind. Those who are insane at the time of the crime also do not hide evidence that they committed the crime. That would indicate knowledge of right and wrong. Take Andrea Yates for example, who called 911 and asked for a police officer, then met him and the door and told him she killed her kids. If Davey is found to be connected with this crime and attempts an insanity defense, he will go away for a long time. A mental health diagnosis is not enough to plead insanity.

John mcgowan said...

Peter

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Peregrine said...

Peter,
Another vote for YES, keep providing us with your analysis of the Davey Blackburn's statements. I come here every day and feel like I've entered the World Mental Olympics happily sitting in last place while you show the rest of us how to compete.
Any chance that you will analyze Davey's Twitter post from yesterday?
daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn · Dec 8
"Train now for the trial you're not yet in, so when it comes you will instinctively look to Jesus to see you through!"
Thank you!

rosy said...

my Smith said...
at 1:18 PM
Subtitle:
We'll do whatever it takes to connect people to life change
December 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM
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Amy, if you look back you'll see this slogan or tagline is used on Resonate's media posts at least as far back as July (I can't be bothered to plow back further).

Suggests they inserted this slogan into a template for this type of post.

Resonate Church
July 6 ·
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John mcgowan said...

Trust pronouns!

Sus said...

I keep trying to let go of the thought that DB is involved in his wife's murder. I really do.

As Peter says, DB's guilt may come from something else rather than involvement.
There is no evident connection between he and the shooter.

Then DB drags me back in to "he's involved." In his video to his congregation, played this past Sunday, he mentioned Lusko's book "prepared" him for Amanda's death.

Why was DB preparing for his wife's death? And Lusko was what he was reading/studying in their rr station tape. The one where he ranted about "laying down your life." He keeps telegraphing a planned murder.

John mcgowan said...

Peter Hyatt said...

John, share what?


This article.

mom2many said...

Can the person that transcribed the intro for Sunday please repost the transcript? Thank you!

maudes harold said...

Sus,

And possibly telegraphing a trial and conviction based on the recent vid of DB.

Anonymous said...

Fox59 in Indianapolis has a new article up similar to the one WRTV6 had yesterday
https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/posts/10153863020789575

Sus said...

Yes maudes,
I have often thought, and this bothers me...

If I had no idea how Amanda died, just listening to DB...I would assume she died of a terminal illness. That she knew, and he knew, and they prepared together for her death.

Anonymous said...

Amy Smith @ 12.31

I don't know how these time stamps work but probably wise not to read too much into it.
I am in Australia and the stamp on the post says 5.00am.

rosy said...

Peter

Blogger John mcgowan said...
Peter Hyatt said...
John, share what?
This article.
December 9, 2015 at 2:23 PM
Hohn said FB rejected a link to your latest story page, thus: "ou can't post this because it has a blocked link The content you're trying to share includes a link that our security systems detected to be unsafe:
totalgta.net"

Get someone to look at your page source (I just did)> The unsafe link is inserted into a iframe (favorite place for spanm links). The code starts out:

<iframe src="//www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com/gadgets/ifr?url=http://totalgta.net/igoogle/tools/rss/foxnews/feed3.xml&container=blogger&

The codes continues way beyond this.

Looks like a hacker has inserted "totalgta.net" into the link or into the iframe code.

DELETE THE LINK IN QUESTION.

I don't know how to deal with this on Blogger. Wordpress gives instructions.

https://wordpress.org/support/topic/iframe-hack-on-several-wp-sites

Anonymous said...

Peter, I think you aren't taking enough culture into his statements. Raised in Alabama in a protestant church he wouldn't be regarded as a narcissist but a guy with a positive outlook. The fact he constantly dissed his wife would be the norm.

Even one of his friends said watching his wife fall and cry was the most sorrow he'd ever experienced. Even he couldn't have any feelings for a dead woman but had to assume hers.

PN plugs for his church raffling off the Harleys so after Fathers Day some lucky sucker can go barreling down the highway with his youngster strapped to the tank and just wait for the day they can view his brains pulsating through a plastic skull piece.

The new and impoved Jesus washes more, and comes out softer after the dry out.

Lemon said...

" That Amanda was "not well read" (which justifies the humiliation she experienced on video) is a subtle insult of her intellect." -PH

^^^^^ This ^^^^^

Anonymous said...

In the "Worship as a Weapon" video, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKlb_1U24, at 13:18 Davey Blackburn uses "Taylor" battling peer pressure as an example. Is that a coincidence for Davey to use that name? ms

Louise K said...

yerp just like to remind folks

we wouldn't be able to SA Davey if he behaved like a Normal Grieving Individual and kept his grief to a private forum

As it is

1. no grief
2. cannot shut up

So we've got AMPLE to analyse

Don't worry folks - the Police aren't Stupid

Davey is

Davey should have SHUT THE HELL UP like regular grieving folks

But no

His insistence on using Amanda's death as a Springboard to Resonate Greatness is obvious, unfathomable (at this early stage) and down right creepy

Especially to those of us who HAVE lost a loved one and would find it IMPOSSIBLE to smile and chat about it chirpily on GMA mere days later.

Davey Blackburn is USING Amanda's death to increase Resonate, at a time Most Grief Stricken folk would struggle to get out of bed

Davey Blackburn appears on TV not only surviving his grief but apparently THRIVING on it

Statement Analysis a way to highlight this "oddness" that we all see and feel in Davey

and we see and feel it because Davey himself has thrust it in our faces

At a time he should be picking caskets

He's grinning like a loon on the teev

Anonymous said...

I think KW may be the pastor friend that DB has his browser history sent to weekly.

If this is the case, their weekly talks/ "accountability sessions" probably consists of him listening to DB's seething anger towards Amanda about his grill, lack of bums in the seats, and the frequency/type of sex she either denies him or wouldn't "joyfully" submit to. If this is the case, no wonder this guy's sermon sounded like he was trying to console the congregation as if an arrest was imminent.

I think this guy was put into a horrible position by being asked to do that sermon. This makes me think of Robert Kardashian,and the look on his face when the verdict was read.

KK

John mcgowan said...

Hi, Rosy

Thank you, i will try that now

John mcgowan said...

Hi, Rosy

John again, lol. Sorted. Thank you, again!

rosy said...

John mcgowan said...
Hi, Rosy
John again, lol. Sorted. Thank you, again!
December 9, 2015 at 3:13 PM

Glad to hear. If anyone running Peter's comments section can do it, please delete my post at at 2:45 PM

Thanks!

John mcgowan said...

2 and 3?

Pronoun: We
1.
Used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself and one or more other people considered together.
"shall we have a drink?"
Used to refer to the speaker together with other people regarded in the same category.
"nobody knows kids better than we teachers do"
people in general.
"we should eat as varied and well-balanced a diet as possible"

Us or Our.
"thought you wasn't coming to look for we"
2.
Used in formal contexts for or by a royal person, or by a writer or editor, to refer to himself or herself.

3.
Used condescendingly to refer to the person being addressed.
"how are we today?"

Carnival Barker said...



DB is a charlatan with a snaggletooth. He is not a man of God, he did not study theology; he has a degree in media. (His college should really refund his parents because he has been a disgrace and an embarrassment on his media blitz.) Davey is a "pastor" why? Because he said so. David Koresh was a prophet because he said so too.

Amanda was shot from behind on the stairs. That tells me that instead of heading out the door she was going for her son, and knew full well that if she did make it up the stairs she would be trapped with no way out. And she did it anyway. Why isn't her husband heralding THAT as her selfless and heroic act instead of saying she took a bullet to her head just so he wouldn't hear so many crickets in the auditorium on Sundays???

I am CONVINCED that DB's connection to the murderers lies with his work in that sham church. I just can't get past those thugs driving 25 minutes in a stolen car to just coincidentally use the ATM that happens to be the closest one to Resonate.

When the cops said to the killer, "You're not as smart as you think you are," they certainly weren't talking to the bag-of-oranges bandits. They know, and so do we.

I wonder if DB will use up his phone time in prison to talk to Ken Wagner every Tuesday from 7 to 8. We'll soon find out.

John mcgowan said...

Davey Blackburn
6 December at 12:39 · Twitter ·

When life is crumbling around us I'm so glad we have the rock of Jesus' Church to breath life back into us!

If these are his words, and not quoting another. His use of the plural, consistently, is very unnerving. Has he become so used to using "We", Us," "our" (hiding amongst a crowd) etc. That it has become second nature to him? (Peter, can this occur?) If so. When he employs, the first person singular pronoun "I," into his language, taking possession, first hand, and not, quoting another. I believe, he will reveal more than he want's to (leakage, if you will) and may yield a lot. Not necessarily, involvement, guilt and or guilty knowledge in the crime committed, but, it may.

https://www.facebook.com/daveyblackburn

Sus said...

And with four tvs in the back seat. Covered by the stolen bed sheets, of course.

Anonymous said...

Amy Smith:

You asked about who posts to the resonate FB page...

a few days ago I was trying to find info on the crime watch guy, Ryan McConnell.

I googled this exactly: "Ryan McConnell" +Facebook +crime watch

The first option that came up was... Davey Blackburn - Facebook. ???

When I clicked on it, I was led straight to a resonate Facebook update from the morning Amanda died. I took a screenshot.

This is what led to my question about RM...is his name embedded behind the scenes b/c HE posts for resonate?

SLH

Juliet said...

Hmm.

--

I have wondered about the possibility of Davey having another baby 'hidden' somewhere - this because he said in his 'Worship as a Weapon' talk, in the things he worries about my - 'my children'. He then made what seemed like a hasty and impromptu pregnancy announcement, without any reference to Amanda - as though he were covering himself for having said 'children' rather than 'my son'. It was not a proper or worthy announcement, just one more point to his talk, which I don't think he originally intended to include.

More recently, he is 'happy with two little kids', despite he only had one. I can't put that down to him looking towards the future, at the time God supposedly spoke to him in the shower - this due to his initial failure to even mention that there was an unborn baby who was also a victim of the murder, and also the psychological gymnastics involved in claiming retrospectively that he was looking forward to his comfortable future, though supposedly saying it now, in full knowledge of Amanda and the unborn baby being dead - it seems beyond contrived for 'God' apparently not having allowed Davey to prepare his add-on sermon. It seemed the baby's loss was of no significance - as though she didn't really 'exist' for him. It took him a while, and some prompting, to even begin to acknowledge in his statements that there was a baby, who then became 'Everett Grace' - before that, Davey acted as though she were not even a consideration to him at twelve/thirteen weeks gestation. He went OTT when eventually he remembered or was reminded to also refer to her death - she then became Amanda's unborn daughter, Everret 'Evie' Grace; the baby who seemed not to have existed suddenly had both a name and gender, despite it being too early for either to be certain. That seemed like an afterthought, and an attempt to draw sympathy, add sentiment, 'humanise' the baby. Since then, it has mostly been about Amanda's death being part of God's plan, and the baby's death has fallen back off the radar. His difficulty in acknowledging the baby makes me think it unlikely she was ever in his mind as a potential real child, or that she was in his mind when he said he worried about 'my children' (or 'my kids', can't remember) or that he was thinking of her when he said he was 'happy with two little kids'.

His talk about his kids/children as a reality (which causes worry) doesn't add up with his resistance to, or difficulty in, acknowledging that there even was a baby whose life was also extinguished with Amanda's murder. I'm not articulating this too well - just, more or less, that I don't pick up that Everrett was one of the kids on Davey's mind - from where I am looking, Amanda's unborn baby never really existed for Davey. So, I wonder, am I seeing/hearing that right, and is there possibly a different child on Davey's mind - or am I seeing/hearing that wrongly, and he's just too overwhelmed with grief to even begin to think about the baby? He doesn't seemed too touched by grief, or even at all.

I'd be interested to know anyone else's' thoughts on that - I know it doesn't have to be a case of 'either' or 'or' - but it could be.



Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2:46. You made a very interesting observation regarding Church culture in Alabama.
Can you explain more your comment about PN and brains being viewed through a plastic skull piece. I don't understand that.

Carnival Barker said...


@ Anon 4:38,

This case has set a record for the number of comments here. I think a lot of good, insightful thoughts get lost in the sea of 400+ other posts. I don't think it's elitist as much as data overload.

Anonymous said...

I understand you don't agree with SA as it pertains to analyzing DB and his preaching style. My question, which I hope you consider with an open mind, is this: Are you worried there may be SOME parts of his personality and behavior that invites scrutiny, OR do you think DB is being completely misunderstood?
No one is perfect; what are DB's flaws as you see them?
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your reply, Carnival.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 4:20 PM
Amy Smith:
I googled this exactly: "Ryan McConnell" +Facebook +crime watch
The first option that came up was... Davey Blackburn - Facebook. ???
.......is his name embedded behind the scenes b/c HE posts for resonate?
SLH
=================
No. This is not how it works. Check the code yourself using Firefly in Firefox or simple "View Page Source." Nada. Nor is his name in comments and shares.

An algorithm pills up his name plus crime watch in connection with recent news. Google must know you use Facebook (a lot?), so it starts there. Either that or Davey is buying Google ads lol). Try another search engine. I rarely use Bing. There, searching that string brings up, about 6 links down, a series of news stories starting from "Crime watch group mobilizes neighbors after pastor’s wife killed in home robbery." This is from Fox59, which has a big FB button a top of page.

John mcgowan said...

Anon @ 4:38

Hi,

Be "they" new, or long term commentators (bloggers) i agree, should NOT be "scoffed at." You have to understand though, that this is an S/A site. Peter, and everyone else are open to analysis of their words posted. I have had my comments analyzed by readership, it is an eye opener. The language i have used, in the split micro second without thought, can and does reveal a lot. I'm still learning the principles, after many years of visiting. It has and still does fascinate me. S/A can benefit us all. Socially, personally, in the work place, and on it goes.


Stick around. Everyone, myself included, (notice that) Lol. Value all contributions to whatever article it maybe. Fun or serious :)


John

Anonymous said...

James Duncan ‏@PajamaPages 1h1 hour ago
Washington Township School District has referred Davey Blackburn's weapon use on school property on 11/8 to Marion Cnty Prosecutor's Office
2 retweets 7 likes

Rella said...

School district referred the weapon "sermon" to the prosecutor's office.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PajamaPages/status/674695258341511168

Skittles said...

Anon 5:03- complete confidence. My vote.

And other Anon 5:03- where did Duncan get this info??! Interesting.

Louise K said...

James Duncan ‏@PajamaPages 1h1 hour ago
Washington Township School District has referred Davey Blackburn's weapon use on school property on 11/8 to Marion Cnty Prosecutor's Office
2 retweets 7 likes


December 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM
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And so the End begins...

Anonymous said...

Your reply is encouraging and generous, John.
Yes, I've begun to look closely at my own wording, too, and I'm disappointed in myself plenty.
I'm terrible at seeing things through; I want quick resolutions, and if questions are not answered I have a tendency to take things personally, then throw the towel in.
I wonder if other SA contributors discover things about themselves they never knew.

rosy said...

Ryan McConnell, the Blackburn's neighbor and head of the local crime watch, works with addicts. Possible link between him and an addict, ex-addict?

Resonate church appeals to addicts.

Alonzo's young wife recently found the lord and turned her life around. Probably all three of those charged with the crime and many of their friends are addicts of one substance or another.

Ryan McConnell has worked for a drug court program and with prison inmates.

Ryan McConnell's work bio:

"Bachelor of Science, Clinical Rehabilitation Psychology - Purdue University, Indianapolis

Ryan first began working for The Damien Center in January 2009 as a Care Coordinator. After college, Ryan worked as a counselor at an addictions treatment center in Indianapolis, starting as an intern and eventually becoming the director of the center. He ran several intensive outpatient therapy groups, performed individual therapy sessions, worked as a member of a treatment team for a drug court program, and helped develop and provide counseling for a drug therapy program for inmates struggling with addictions."

"In his work with addictions, he realized his passion for helping others in need. As a result of his experience, Ryan is able to utilize the therapeutic methods that he fine-tuned while serving as a Care Coordinator at The Damien Center."
http://www.damien.org/our-team#ryan-mcconnell

Louise K said...

Oh, lol

Davey - its called being hoist on your own petard

You have no one to blame but yourself

Anonymous said...

Maybe this explains why he is not allowed to preach at Resonate for an indefinite period since church is still held at that same location at the middle school. Hmm...

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your reply, Skittles.

Louise K said...

Sounds like the first card has just been pulled from the house...the rest to tumble directly

Anonymous said...

Good pull Rosy!

I remember an article on Jalen Watson being involved in some sort of probation type program for ex felons.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/police-jalen-watson-was-working-to-get-life-back-on-track

Amy Smith said...

Perry Noble Says Amanda Blackburn Made Her Husband a 'Better Man'

The "Crazy Davey" story in the Christian Post
http://m.christianpost.com/news/davey-blackburn-perry-noble-amanda-resonate-church-newspring-crime-murder-151981/?m=1

Amy Smith said...

"Taking a step back"

Anonymous said...

The comments are drastically different on the Indianapolis FOX59 page compared to the WRTV6 page from yesterday.

https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/posts/10153863020789575

rosy said...

Ryann McConnell works for the Damien Center.

The Damien Center is Indiana's oldest and largest AIDS service organization (ASO) and serves more than 4,000 individuals affected and infected by HIV/AIDS through a comprehensive, innovative approach to HIV care and prevention.

"We offer Mental Health Counseling, Substance Abuse Counseling, and Comprehensive Risk Counseling services to supplement and support the other programs that our clients are engaged in."

Sus said...

Carnival Barker,
You have me wondering something. Did Watson and Gordon meet someone to unload the TVs, before they went through the first ATM?

Could that be why they went further away? I just can't imagine they were stupid enough to go through two ATM's with stolen goods in the back seat, one a 54 inch tv.

According to the probable doc, Taylor got out with the stolen goods at his friend, Cheese's. It's not clear whether that's with all the stolen goods or just what he took at the Blackburn's. I would think only what he took at the Blackburn's for two reasons. Watson and Gordon did not want to go back for Taylor. So the original plan couldn't have been to dump the goods at Cheese's. Secondly, why didn't we hear more about questioning Cheese and the recovery of the stolen goods?

I don't think Cheese has the stolen goods. The most likely scenario is that they were dumped on the way to the ATM. And Watson and Gordon had no intention of going back for Taylor as they were done "burglarizing" for the day.

Anonymous said...

Well if the reports are true that LE identified Taylor from previous Backpage Ad's then there is a higher probability of him having the HIV virus due to being a male prostitute...the likelihood of people who contact male prostitutes from backpages would be majority males as opposed to females no? And the probability of catching HIV is increased through anal intercourse...So not saying any of that is true, but it could happen!

Anonymous said...

I don't like DB's discouraging remarks geared toward members of the female sex.
If he was tempted at the gym, there are barbells and such to set up in the garage or spare bedroom to build muscle. Cheap, too. Both were runners. And, surely there are separate workout conditions at some places.

I didn't like the gun thing either in the sermon, but that's just me.I would think only males with certain testosterone levels could appreciate it.

But, DB said he wanted a church where his friends could worship and perhaps this is his way of hand selecting them.

I found the videos repulsive and utilizing more humanism/psychology under Bible scripture than anything that could possibly be construed as spiritual. Thus is the franchise church of today, though. I looked at spiritual warfare first for the thug in the woodshed and I saw.

He is too full of himself and so are his friends. Two peas in a pod. IMO, they are godless. That's just an opinion based on observation and what they've said. That could be changed. They are younger and relate to the younger crowd who may find them godly. IDK. Thus the tagging with chalk around town like some gang maneuver.

To hurang and harass him is overboard, though. It is clear he is immature and I take that into account, too. It's easy to see I'll never go to Indiana to try his church and it really makes no difference to me one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous @ 4:07----Hi Perry!!

rosy said...

I guess I'm wondering if one of Ryan McConnell's Damien Center clients found a way to get hold of the security codes that McConnell was in charge of. Or simply found out where McConnell lived and drove down that street in hopes of worthwhile loot.

I think the only reliable connection so far is that Davey and Amanda Blackburn and Ryan McConnell were all in "helping" and "outreach roles," all trying to help people turn their lives around.

Anonymous said...

I just watched Davey's video to his church about taking a step back. He ended with saying "I love you very, very, very much." Did Amanda get an I love you or that many 'verys' in his interviews??!!?

Anonymous said...

This might have been said before but this is my theory on why she was partially undressed but possibly not sexually assaulted. It could have been staged. OR when Taylor walked into the house to find Amanda there that's when he hit her in the mouth with the gun knocking a tooth out. Possibly knocking her out cold which is why he felt brave enough to walk outside to the others to give them cards. He then stayed behind while the others went to the ATM. Either he started to undress her while she lay unconscious, she woke and started to fight OR she was awake when he was back inside and while they waited for the others he started to tell her to undress. She may have complied for a while and then something happened, Weston cried or she had a f*uck this moment and charged him. Either way I would like to think that Davey would put two and two together while calling 911. Doubtful your wife had an accident like falling and injured her head while her pants were off.

Lily said...

It was his girlfriend that was advertised.

Hope's Food and Family said...

Yes Please!

Anonymous said...

This case is just so strange that I can't help to keep up with it since hearing about it. When I first heard the story of the pregnant pastor's wife being killed, I was horrified and sympathetic towards Davey Blackburn. But as soon as I started reading more about the case, something just wasn't adding up. A lot wasn't. It started with the timeline of his phone call w/ the friend while Amanda was inside their house dying. Then when I saw the last journal post of Amanda he posted w/ the caption how she wasn't well-read or well-to do or well-traveled- I was enraged and shocked how he could speak of his dead wife like that. And then I started looking more closely at things. Even at their family photos. The photos seem a little too fake & happy & forced and I just got the feeling while looking at him that he is in fact involved in some way with his wife's murder. If he wasn't, that will be a miracle in itself and he will still be a cold bloodied bastard for going on tv and exploiting her death for his crazy gains. I can just see his story on 48 hours soon enough and by then hopefully it will be called "Amanda & Child" or "Mother & Child"- bc she & her unborn baby's deaths are the ones lost in all of this.

Anonymous said...

Considering his educational background, his twitter account makes absolutely no sense @Ryan_Mac_1 There are hashtags for KKK and one of the few liked tweets is from someone who's twitter is packed with gangsta type crap.

Affidavit says security system was disarmed at 5:36. This means it was turned on and working. Can these be physically destroyed/disarmed and silenced without the code and wouldn't this at least send an alert to the monitering center?

rosy said...

Anonymous Lily said...

It was his girlfriend that was advertised.

December 9, 2015 at 6:14 PM

Lily, on Backpage?

Juliet said...

Anon @ 4.38 - it can seem that way, but it's the same with any busy board. Just put your thoughts out there - plenty of us will be reading even if you don't always get a response. I tend to take on board what people are saying but don't necessarily feel inclined to comment or respond, or expect a response, though it's good when someone does respond. The long two-way conversations which don't add much - those I tend to skip over, and not alone there. Also, people have their particular train of thought, or are researching social media, which is time intensive, and when they are in one-track mind, they're not necessarily interested just then, in what's on your mind - but they might be later. Plus the threads fill up quickly and move so fast - it is difficult to keep up. It's not elitist, just busy, so don't be discouraged.

Anonymous said...

One day at work a female coworker made some copies on blue paper, and forgot to remove the blue paper from copier. The boss went to copier to make a copy (one page), and it came out on blue paper and he exploded, yelling angrily "WHO LEFT BLUE PAPER IN THE COPIER?!?!?!" My coworker said "Oh we were just making some copies on blue paper!" She was the only person making copies on blue paper. She used "we" as a normal/understandable reaction to boss's insane temper!

Lily said...

Yes, the phone number on the affadavit shows up in backpage and other unsavory sites with ads featuring his girlfriend.

Anonymous said...

You're very astute anon 6;24.

Doubtful some guy in a black gmc 3/4 ton with plate #225001 was in Indianna during that time.

Anonymous said...

They have to take down the phone line to keep it from calling out to the monitoring co. Typically done by extortion detectives and not n-worders going after big screens.

Anonymous said...

I remember in that "we have nothing to hide" interview, the interviewer (was that George Stephanopolis?) at one point said "...you and your children" because I think he was confused by the "we" thing.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 6:24 PM

Considering his educational background, his twitter account makes absolutely no sense @Ryan_Mac_1 There are hashtags for KKK and one of the few liked tweets is from someone who's twitter is packed with gangsta type crap.
=========

Looks like he never cared for Twitter. Five Tweets in 3 years with the last couple in 2014. The KKK link that he RT's is an ugly post ostensibly by Anonymous. His RT goes to @GroupAnonAU, an account with zero Tweets, probably a bot?

He follows 79 accounts. A lot of breweries and sports. He doesn't follow Davey but does follow LE via @IMPD_News

Carnival Barker said...


@ Lily,

Where did you read that it was his girlfriend on Backpage?

Anonymous said...

Rosy:

Thanks for the response.

I don't know how algorithms work, but it did make me suspicious, so thank you for clearing that up.

However, I don't use Facebook, so the theory that it pulled that up first for that reason falls flat :)

I have written down some of RM's public statements though, and they are somewhat odd. At one point, he even said, "whatever it takes",

possibly nothing, but it is in the resonate slogan.

SLH

rosy said...

Lily said...
at 6:40 PM
Anonymous Lily said...
Yes, the phone number on the affadavit shows up in backpage and other unsavory sites with ads featuring his girlfriend.
========
Lily, thanks, I'll re-read the affadavit.

Anonymous said...

Those anonAU are most likely criminals in AU running some type of criminal activity that involves bars, sports betting or may be drugging women in bars type of thing. Keeping up with the crime news would be a way of entrapping the criminals if they were setting them up in the first place.

John mcgowan said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your reply is encouraging and generous, John.
Yes, I've begun to look closely at my own wording, too, and I'm disappointed in myself plenty.
I'm terrible at seeing things through; I want quick resolutions, and if questions are not answered I have a tendency to take things personally, then throw the towel in.
I wonder if other SA contributors discover things about themselves they never knew.


December 9, 2015 at 5:10 PM

I want quick resolutions, and if questions are not answered I have a tendency to take things personally, then throw the towel in.
I wonder if other SA contributors discover things about themselves they never knew.



Hi,


That is me. I would like everything done, like yesterday. When i was working (manual labour) i was the go to guy. Show me the job, and i was all in, i wouldn't take a lunch break until i had finished the job that i was allocated. That was what i was like. I also realised, that i was very impatient, i still am, but not to the degree i was then, and i believe, that is why i was the go to guy get the job done quickly. I left school when i was 14. I'm practically self educated (not very well) I love learning! My parents weren't ones to encourage. (that's another chapter) I'm 1 of 8. I guess what i'm trying to say is (and i know iv'e gone round the house's to get there, making it sensitive) is. The faster i go, the more i miss. Yet, i still can not help but rush to the finish line, or conclusion. Even knowing, i shouldn't. I don't think that will change, alter maybe, dilute. Writing back to you now, i am words ahead in my head, i can't help it. I'm getting there, i think. :)

I recall Peter saying in regards to S/A. Don't quote me, lol. Go slowly, very slowly. Not only has that served me well with (learning) S/A. I'm also reminded of it when i get impatient about addressing something, be it, telling the chicken in the oven to hurry up and cook. To stop blaming the Taxi operator because the Cab is late.

It's good here, stick around.

John

maudes harold said...

Well said, John.

Anonymous said...

Interesting comment on Facebook page for the video from last Sunday in which Davey says he is not speaking and is taking a step back. . .cannot take credit for this comment and great catch by this person - relevant part is at 4:43 in the video where Davey says, re wanting everyone to watch this video by Levi Lusko - this video "that God used to prepare MY heart for this, leading up to Amanda's death. . . "

this is the comment from Facebook
"4:43-- He is talking about a video he wants people to watch and how God has prepared his heart LEADING UP TO Amanda's death and how it's comforted his heart through this "process". That statement was very strange to me... "leading up to Amanda's death..."....hmmmm, any takes on this comment?"

True, Facebook poster - he wouldn't need to be "led up to" Amanda's death if he didn't know it was going to happen. Continuing on where he says it has provided comfort for him after her death ( "and has used, um, God's used this to um to help comfort my heart in all of this process"). . .

It's almost like he slipped up when he said "leading up to Amanda's death", realized he majorly slipped up (foreknowledge, how woudl he know), and tried to cover for it.


This most recent video speaks even more as to Davey's frame of mind about Amanda's death - this has all been said before as well, but he has from the start - and continues to - speak in terms of "this process", this "event", he calls it a tragedy (at least) and then talks about Weston and this bit of chaos he is in . . . such a weird description for the situation of having your mom taken from you suddenly. At least Weston doesn't know the brutality of the slaying and the circumstances surrounding it. . . yet.

"Bit of chaos" - minimizing for sure. Reminds me of the heart attack public service announcement / commercial with Elizabeth Banks as the patient - busy mom getting her kids ready for school, has severe chest pain - arm pain - nausea, keeps working with the kids and the morning routine and wants to think it's nothing but then finally ends up lying on the floor . . . calls 911 and says "I hate to bother you . . . but I think I might be having a little heart attack !"

flightfulbird

Carnival Barker said...


"I don't want this tragedy to be wasted, and so I want us to capitalize on seeing more and more and more people come to know Jesus as their personal savior."

Another pearl from Davey "Nothing to see here" Blackburn


Pak31 said...

@Carnival barker 3:44pm. What an awesome post. So well said. Every word of it. You summed it up perfectly.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 7:04 PM

Yes. Beyond me. I block those zero Tweet accounts.

Carnival Barker said...


You're making me blush, Pak :)

Anonymous said...

That's his media background talking Barker. That's what they do during tragedy. Thus the reason for being a lousy preacher.

Sus said...

I could be wrong. I want to begin with that. But I understood the house down from Blackburn's did not have a full security system. Just a video system. Which Watson disabled by smashing. He is the only one seen on it. (Walking up to the camera.)

rosy said...

Carnival Barker said...
at 3:44 PM

Also her iPhone was upstairs beside her bed. She would gone for it to call police.

Carnival Barker said...


@Rosy,

The front door is inches from the steps. I would think she would try to go out the door before she tried to run up the steps if she were just running for the phone.

rosy said...

Anonymous Sus said...

I understood the house down from Blackburn's did not have a full security system. Just a video system. Which Watson disabled by smashing. He is the only one seen on it. (Walking up to the camera.)
December 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM

___

Thanks for this info.

Lily said...

I googled his number from an unredacted affadavit.

Lily said...

Have eye bleach ready!

Carnival Barker said...


"4:43-- He is talking about a video he wants people to watch and how God has prepared his heart LEADING UP TO Amanda's death and how it's comforted his heart through this "process". That statement was very strange to me... "leading up to Amanda's death..."....hmmmm, any takes on this comment?"

* * * * * * * * *

Wow. He sure DID say he wanted everyone to hear the message that God used to prepare his heart leading up to Amanda's death.

Where for art thou, Peter?!?

Anonymous said...

on Twitter, @TommyTravis is listed as head of communications for Resonate.

rosy said...

Carnival Barker said...
The front door is inches from the steps. I would think she would try to go out the door before she tried to run up the steps if she were just running for the phone.
at 7:33 PM

Weston and her phone were upstairs. Where did they keep their gun? Beside the bed?

rosy said...



daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn 10 Aug 2014

Got to mow my elderly neighbor's yard for her today! #FORINDY -

Anonymous said...

No, these three were getting ready to run the neighborhood if they were smashing cameras. Paving the way for another round. The last person that could have possibly been able to see that would be a preacher or a cop.

Anonymous said...

CD might have purposely made the comment on the tape about God preparing his heart BEFORE Amanda's death (aka: brutal murder), to explain away all of the speculation and criticism about him being so calm, not showing emotion, etc.

Or

CD might have accidently made the comment about God preparing his heart BEFORE Amanda's death, and then tweeted his recent tweet, for damage control:

Daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn Dec 8
"Train now for the trial you're not yet in, so when it comes you will instinctively look to Jesus to see you through!"

Although it is interesting that he uses the word "trial" in the tweet, I read it as meaning tribulation, tragedy, and event that needs to be processed, etc. However, it could have a double meaning....

Anonymous said...

I meant to "sign" my anonymous post, above ^

-L

Carnival Barker said...


@ Rosy,

Their gun was probably out of the house and "accidentally" left at Resonate from DB's sermon two days before. Now wouldn't that be an interesting twist.

rosy said...

Blogger Carnival Barker said...
at 7:56 PM
Their gun was probably out of the house and "accidentally" left at Resonate from DB's sermon two days before. Now wouldn't that be an interesting twist.
at 7:56 PM

Yes indeed. Now that Washington Township School District has referred Davey Blackburn's weapon use on school property on 11/8 to Marion County Prosecutor's, I hope they will look into this.

Anonymous said...

Sus@7:30

A single woman spends $ on a security camera but doesn't have an alarm system???? Is this to maybe help identify the person/s that robs,rapes or kills them instead of scaring them off with an alarm and notifying police??????

Did the woman that was sleeping in the apt just have a camera too?

What about Blackburns alarm system?

Juliet said...

Flightfulbird @ 7.11 I think it's quite possible God could have prepared Davey's heart leading up to Amanda's death without Davey being aware at the time that his heart was being prepared - but given how Davey is, and how he is not dealing with it, it seems at least as possible that Davey was (ineffectually) researching how to present himself and to appear stricken following the murder of his wife, and was 'preparing' himself - in his early statement he said there was no way to prepare for such circumstances, or similar - which being an unnecessary thing to say, raised suspicions amongst some that he had, indeed, been 'preparing' for Amanda's murder.

Anonymous said...

If she lived in an apt. she may have been told (or thought) she could not have an alarm because of the drilling and such making holes in the wood and walls.

Anonymous said...

About 45 minutes into his "gun" sermon, he says, "don't worry, this is an air soft gun."

Anonymous said...


Don't airsoft guns have an orange tip on them?

There are pictures of DB's real gun on Twitter. I think I may have to do a side-by-side comparison.

Anonymous said...

The gun used in the Worship is a Weapon sermon was an air soft gun.

Anonymous said...

Sus, Do you remember where you heared there was just a camera? I don't believe she wouldn't have had an alarm?

Anonymous said...

Using any gun-even an airsoft gun-is very inappropriate in this day and age. That demonstrates his delusional take on society as a whole.

People attending could have been victims of crimes involving guns, and nowadays people walk into church and start shooting. To lead anyone into thinking it was a prop is leading them to think wrong.

That sermon was just plain off-color. People have been killed for sporting such toys.

Louise K said...

Yeah I had a boss who came in waving a gun around (trucking company, rough as guts)

He comes up to me later and says, You know that was a starter gun, right

I'm all...oh yes

Like fekk it was

Crazy old coot

Sweet and Salty said...


Davey @ 8:21,

Shouldn't you be mowing your elderly neighbor's lawn?

Louise K said...

I suggest Davey's sermons were the entire reason @ResonateIndy was struggling.

People were just put off.

His Bums on Seats rant shows that. People weren't turning up, and Pastor Davey was mad about that.

God forbid he look to his own behavior

Now its starting to look like @ResonateIndy will continue minus one Davey Blackburn.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever seen Perry Noble and Heston Blumenthal together in the same room?

rosy said...

daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn 25 Dec 2013

Best Christmas Present Ever!


[from Amanda's Gransfather}
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/media

Anonymous said...

Snap. Oh you got me, Sweet and Salty @8.24

rosy said...

* gift from Amanda's grandfather

Anonymous said...

Talking about prop guns, Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son, springs to mind.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the leading up to is a smoking gun. I think he's just saying how beneficial that study was that he and Amanda were doing together to deal with the tragedy that's happened. Maybe we should all watch it and see if it explains odd behavior after a spouse dies.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the prosecutor troubles he just found out about explains the Twitter post from yesterday being a lbout facig trials. He may be blaming this all on an attack from the devil to keep the revival away that history has never seen. BC

Sweet and Salty said...


I would like to know the difference between how Davey Blackburn is reacting to his wife's death and how someone that didn't care about her at all would react to her death.

Indiscernible.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the typos from my phone! BC

About facing trials

rosy said...



daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn Mar 5
Date night = Shooting at the gun range, wings, and being mistaken for a 19 & 20 yr old #MyBestFriend -
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_Xj_8wWQAAO1DS.jpg

Coffin Photo
daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn 6 Jul 2014
Can't wait for service today! You DON'T want to miss this! -
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/media

Concerned said...

History has never shown the grass that can be cut and the Pay It Forward donuts that can be bought, nor the sidewalks that can be chalked for Indy!


Xian Janeway said...

Amy, remember, I went over the Resonate FB page right after the murder, & got a screen-shot of all the posts. The posts were *not* automatically set for the time and day-of-the-week of the murder. They were at 8am the day of the murder, seven days before, and in *September*. That's it.

rosy said...

Anonymous flightfulbird said...
December 9, 2015 at 7:11 PM

where Davey says, re wanting everyone to watch this video by Levi Lusko - this video "that God used to prepare MY heart for this, leading up to Amanda's death. . . "
this is the comment from Facebook
"4:43-- He is talking about a video he wants people to watch and how God has prepared his heart LEADING UP TO Amanda's death and how it's comforted his heart through this "process". That statement was very strange to me... "leading up to Amanda's death..."....

=============

I think this is relevant.

Davey always wanted a wife who would sling-shot his career.

Levi Lusko's career was sling-shotted by the death of his little girl.

This video outlines Levi Lusko's preaching career, built upon the death of his young daughter. He even bringing up donation of her organs.

Davey and Amanda watched the video on the train to Chicago, her last journey with him, supposed to be a romantic getaway. He said that watching it brought "tears."

Those tears prepared his heart. He was ready to surrender Amanda before the voice spoke to his heart in the shower. He was ready after watching Levi Lusko.

Xian Janeway said...

Peter, I am starting to have a variety of doubts about SA.

-"Deception occurs in 3's." Those of us who are English majors know that we're trained to give at least 3 supporting points in an essay or paragraph. It's a standard way of writing. That doesn't mean we're being deceptive, but it may mean we're saying something rehearsed.

--your comment about "brushing her teeth" being related to domestic violence. I often talk about having time to brush my teeth, because it is amazing when I actually have time to do it. I have four children. I am not beaten, shamed, sexually abused, emotionally beaten down, etc. We have had a lot of marital troubles, and I was a *witness* to domestic violence growing up. However, right now, I'm not a victim of domestic violence; I'm an exhausted mom.

-You said, "In order to be deceptive about hearing this conversation with God, Blackburn would have to show a "need to persuade" or an "intent to deceive" his audience." Sir, I grew up w/ a Borderline mother and a Narcissistic father. Every single statement out of my mouth had a "need to persuade" behind it, because if I didn't persuade, I wasn't heard. I didn't have a voice on my own; I was just an extension of whatever they needed. This means I regularly expect that I won't be believed, NO MATTER WHAT I SAY, and I use words like, "I was really REALLY concerned" or, "Honestly..." or the best one: "I have nothing to hide," which really means "I have nothing to hide. Seriously. Come, take a look. Have some lemonade." I've had to spend so much time validating whatever I perceive as true that I easily go overboard.

I'm not saying Davey Blackburn is innocent. I grew up w/ a Narcissist, and from experience, I can tell you that this guy is slimier than a rotten avocado. I'm just questioning whether or not specific statements can indicate deception as reliably as you say they can.

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't think the leading up to is a smoking gun. I think he's just saying how beneficial that study was that he and Amanda were doing together to deal with the tragedy that's happened. Maybe we should all watch it and see if it explains odd behavior after a spouse dies.
December 9, 2015 at 8:43 PM
=====================

The Levi Lusko video and his book, Through the Eyes of a Lion, explain (or exemplify) how to slingshot your preaching career to hip meg-church status by using the death of a loved one - in Lusko's case, one of his daughters.

"Levi and Jennie Lusko’s daughter, Lenya, died due to an asthmatic attack five days before Christmas. Levi said his wife, Jennie, was wrapping Christmas presents in the next room and had no indication that Lenya was in trouble. By the time Levi got to Lenya she was unconscious and died in his arms. He had no time to tell her good-bye.

By God’s amazing grace and power, and in honor of Lenya’s prayers and excitement for the upcoming Christmas Eve service, Levi gave the Christmas Eve message to the church. I was told there wasn’t a dry eye in the building. This is an amazing testimony as to how God can take a seemingly horrible, heart wrenching situation and turn it to good in every way."
https://advocateofhope.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/levi-and-lenya-a-special-message-fresh-life-church/

Xian Janeway said...

And without even realizing it, I gave 3 supporting points! Not because I was intending to, but because I'm sleepy, & need to go to bed. :D :D :D <---Oh look, 3 smiley faces! I regularly sign off w/ these.

Carnival Barker said...

@Xian,

I think you're actually speaking to Peter's point. When you *write* a story you use three examples, etc. But things that happen spontaneously in everyday life don't happen in threes as much as the deceptive people *writing* their story say they do.

Juliet said...

I'm worried for Weston - especially since Amanda's death hasn't quite advanced Davey's career,

Lizyanbudy said...

John, you are one of the more intelligent and accurate SA posters here. When I'm struggling to analyze one of Peters posts, I'll look to see if you or Tania have checked in :)

Anonymous said...

rosy at 9:11 and 9:21pm (and others), I wonder if Indy LE has seen this video - this is the same one as Davey and Amanda were watching on the way to Chicago " in tears".

I've not watched it yet, just Davey's introduction to it. But, if this talk and that book are truly about slingshotting a church from the death of a loved one (daughter)- and then Davey talking in Phil's church about Amanda's death breathing life into the church and more or less God taking his wife from him to make the church come alive . . . and then Davey keeps talking about Amanda GAVE HER LIFE and this and that. . .

they need to see this and they need to put two and two together. Davey TOTALLY is modeling this after Levi Lusko's experience.

flightfulbird

BB said...

Agree! Seems like he is saying it was beneficial in hindsight.

rosy said...

"Levi Lusko is the pastor of Fresh Life Church, a multisite church in Montana, and the founder of Skull Church and the O2 Experience. He serves as host for Greg Laurie's Harvest Crusades and travels internationally to speak at churches and conferences. He takes pleasure in small things like: black coffee, new shoes, and fast internet. He and his wife, Jennie, have four daughters, Alivia, Daisy, Clover, and Lenya, who is in heaven."

Juliet said...

It looks almost too transparent - would be interesting to be a fly on the wall when Levi next reaches out to Davey.

Amy Smith said...

Xian Janeway, yes! I do remember that. The time of posting that day and who and where he/she posted from is important because if it was Davey posting it at 8 am, well that should cause some questions for his stated timeline.

Social media postings can provide LE with valuable information. Last week during the CA attack, one of the shooters posted to Facebook her allegiance to Isis which has helped in the investigation.

Anonymous said...

I posted this before....It's a bit off topic but Levi looks super creepy to me. I watched a bit of the video with the sound turned off. He's so androgynous looking - like a David Bowie type figure.

Canada

Anonymous said...

Carnival Barker said...

Amanda was shot from behind on the stairs. That tells me that instead of heading out the door she was going for her son, and knew full well that if she did make it up the stairs she would be trapped with no way out. And she did it anyway. Why isn't her husband heralding THAT as her selfless and heroic act instead of saying she took a bullet to her head just so he wouldn't hear so many crickets in the auditorium on Sundays???
December 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM

Where did you read or hear that Amanda was shot on the stairs? XYZ

Anonymous said...

A feeling, a thought, words. "I think I thought I saw you try."

Jamie Brooks said...

Janeway- They're flags, not hole-in-ones, or, they give us question marks more than equal signs. Three may appear in a narrative- we flag and question it, we don't come to an automatic conclusion.

I've not thought that having three points or three smilies is a flag- it's when someone needs a number to make up, they go to three. So it's a ? when someone verbalized the number.

I've had my own doubts about teeth brushing and water. Again, its presence in a statement would cause me to ask more questions to see if it's a sensitive time in the narrative, not conclude abuse based on that single detail.

Also- Peter is great, but to get a slightly different style search the blog for Kaaryn Gough and read one or two of her analyses; she's a little more overt about flags leading to questions over solid conclusions.

Carnival Barker said...

It's in the Affidavit. There was a bullet hole in the stairs or a casing on the bottom of the stairs, can't remember specifically. It's in there, though.

Kate said...

https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/?fref=ts

If you have a facebook act and can drop a line or two here, it would help. Davey has a lot more support today from his crew than he did yesterday.

Interesting to note, the title "Davey Blackburn opens up about wife, says God will use her death as a force of change", notice no "Pastor" preceding his name. He's a joke to everyone, including the press.

I'm glad they turned him in on waving the gun around, should have been done day one.

amj said...

Is anybody watching that show "Rich in Faith"right now?? Few mins in I've already heard the terms plant a church, do life, the best is yet to come, and more popular daveyisms. Are these people in bizarro world or what?

Kate said...

Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but the family celebration video for Amanda, when Davey's dad says "My level headed son", ha! Why did he feel the need to insert that? Deep down he knows his son is capable of anything?

M said...

Carnival - The through and through on her back had a downward trajectory so he couldn't have been shooting at her while chasing her up the stairs, could he? ...and the bullet was found in a bottom stair. I just can't picture how that could happen if she were running up the stairs.

Anonymous said...

Wow rosy thanks for the sunmary. BC

rosy said...

So, was the "Best Christmas Present Ever!" Dec 25 2013 an airsoft or a polymer handgun? I made an error with link 1st time:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcVM-6CCAAMA_BP.jpg

lynda said...

Until you pointed out that he doesn't use "we" when talking about God speaking to him, I really thought when he said "we" he meant him and God or him and fellow Christians. This was excellent analysis Peter. If he had nothing to do with her murder at all, I am insanely curious to know what it IS that he is hiding.

Anonymous said...

It's nothing. It's a way of weaving bullsh!t into a masters degree to go on to be an "Expert" after retirement.

Everyone has something to hide. Maybe not criminal but something they'd prefer not to blurt out.

His church believes in transparency which is why they act so crudely.

Sus said...

Re neighbor's video system. I can't remember. Either it is in the probable cause, or from Buddy who posts here, or a combo of the two.

Anonymous said...

Carnival Barker said...
It's in the Affidavit. There was a bullet hole in the stairs or a casing on the bottom of the stairs, can't remember specifically. It's in there, though.
December 9, 2015 at 10:29 PM

It's on page 16. The bullet hole was in the BASE of the stairwell, and the bullet was found underneath the stairs. That wouldn't happen if she were walking up the stairs, or even walking down the stairs.

Gunshot wound to the back was a downward wound which entered and exited the upper back. That means the shooter was standing/leaning over her, not shooting upward at her. XYZ

trustmeigetit said...

I agree. Pronouns are the key.

And everyone wants to explain the use of "us" and "we" but Davey was not asked about the involvement of the church and him or the family and him.

He was asked directly about his involvement.

I was trying to explain this very comment to my husband. He too tried to justify "we"

I then had my son come in. I asked him if he took my bagel.

He responded "no I didn't"

I then look at my husband and said, if he responded woth "I" not we.

Because pronouns are instinctive.

I said "did you" and he responded "no I didn't"

My son is 7. And he didn't take my bagel.

lynda said...

Carnival Barker said..

Amanda was shot from behind on the stairs. That tells me that instead of heading out the door she was going for her son, and knew full well that if she did make it up the stairs she would be trapped with no way out. And she did it anyway. Why isn't her husband heralding THAT as her selfless and heroic act instead of saying she took a bullet to her head just so he wouldn't hear so many crickets in the auditorium on Sundays???

************
I posted a theory awhile ago based on released autopsy findings and the PC aff. that at some point, Amanda was running down the stairs and shot from behind with the bullet having a downward trajectory going straight thru and lodging at the base of the stairs. I would think the forearm shot that the bullet traveled upward and lodged in her bicep was a defensive wound, unknown is her position at the time of that wound..lying on floor with hand raised, face to face with hand raised, unknown. Then the execution shot. I would think she either collapsed on the floor, or was crawling when the execution happened.

Another thought. Many have speculated that Amanda would have run to Weston's room. If this scenario happened to me I imagine that the only time I would move toward my child is if he was in the open, in line of the perp, in the same room. Otherwise, I would run AWAY from his room so the perp DIDN"T go that way. That was her only choice as to how to protect him if he was still asleep in his room. Or at least I like to think I would do that.

lynda said...

Also, the bullet at the bottom of the stairs was the only bullet recovered at the scene. The other 2 bullets remained in Amanda's body.

Kate said...

Which is where the snitch states Taylor bent Blackburn over, shot her and watched her bleed. I find that so conflicting with the teenage boy who has a story about being robbed by 3 men last year, one being Taylor and once they saw the teenage boy in his closet, they wiped their prints, didn't take a thing and left.

If anyone can make sense out of why 3 men wouldn't even touch the teenage boy, but felt the need to assault and murder Amanda, I'd really appreciate it.

Anonymous said...

He seems to idolize Levi Lusko and posted today on the Resonate FB more links to Levi and his church. If you go to Fresh Life Church website and read "about" Pastor Levi he talks about his love for black coffee. Davie also mentions loving coffee in his sermons - Also there is a website Mrsluscko.com for the Pastor's wife and multiple pix of their family. No doubt Mrs. Lusko slingshotted Pastor Levi's ministry. Go to locations and there are multiple places of worship, service times etc. This guy has it going on. Also notice the pix of the gimmicks and muscle heads on the stage. I think Levi is his idol and PN was just a stepping stone mentor.

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 11:49 PM

I have the same feeling and it worries me. Why did he choose that CD to watch on the train to Chicago with Amanda for what was supposed to be a "romantic" getaway to revive/ refresh their marriage?

Also, in that trip, they posted few of any photos of themselves or each other. He posted a Trump building shot, and 2 fast food shots. Nothing of their smiling faces. I know lack of selfies is not part of Statement Analysis, but it's strange.

CJ said...

Just when I think this case can't get wierder, I read this:

Anonymous said...
In the "Worship as a Weapon" video, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKlb_1U24, at 13:18 Davey Blackburn uses "Taylor" battling peer pressure as an example. Is that a coincidence for Davey to use that name? ms

December 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM

I had listened to this whole sermon before and hadn't heard this reference so I went back for a second listen, and out of the blue, there it was. In a seemingly random choice of names, Davey chooses "Taylor."

I've transcribed a bit leading up to this for context. Sorry to spread it out over posts, but this interface limits the length of posts ...

... watch for it!

CJ said...

Excerpt from Worship is a Weapon on Worry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKlb_1U24&app=desktop

[11:10] … I’ve got a few words that I want you to write down, so if you’re taking notes write these down. If you are not a note-taker, take notes today, okay? Write these down anyways because this is going to benefit you in so many ways. And maybe, listen, maybe you’re not worried today, but I can promise you something’s going to happen where you will be worried. You wanna’ tuck this one away for later.

So I want to talk to you about five “P’s,” hopefully we get to all five, okay? (I haven’t preached in a while, so we’ll see).

Five “P’s, right here:” the first “P” that you need to, you need to think through when it comes to worry, I want to talk about, is the “P” pressure. Pressure. Write down the word “pressure.” ‘Cuz we all deal with pressure and that’s what causes worry, the more intense the pressure oftentimes the more intense the worry, the more intense the situation. And so let’s look at this story here in II Chronicles 20. I want to show you what happens to this king named Jehoshaphat. That’s a cool name, right? That’s the name of our second baby, all right, Jehoshaphat, P-H-A-T, phat! Whut? Right! So, — it is, see? P-H-A-T, see? I told ya!

CJ said...

Excerpt from Worship is a Weapon on Worry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWKlb_1U24&app=desktop

[12:07 Davey reading from screen] “After this, the Moabites and Ammonites with some of the Meunites came to wage war against Jehoshaphat for battle.”

Now let me ask you something. Have you ever had the Moabites and the Ammonites and the Meunites come against you for battle, ever? No, no, okay. So, so while we don’t have that going on in our lives, we probably have other pressures going on in our lives, we probably have things coming against us so it seems and surrounding us, right? So here’s what I want you to do. In the story, I want you to fill in the blank for you. So after this, the — what? What’s happening in your life that’s causing pressure?

So, so maybe for some of you it’s, after this the debt collectors, and the company management, and some of the medical reports, came against, Mary, for battle.

May–, maybe you’re a student in here and you’re like, wha– wha–, af, after this, some of the final midterm exams or the semester projects or the popular kids came against Taylor, for battle.

You–, we feel it, we feel pressure surrounding us, I don’t know what your pressurized situation is today but every single one of us has some kind of pressurized situation, and it surrounds you and it moves in on you, and we don’t know what to do.

Sus said...

Re neighbor's video again.
From prob cause doc:
"interior video depicted a subject who disabled the system at 5:36 A.M."

I'm fairly certain Buddy said before the doc came out that it was smashed.

I'm still reading the doc to see why I thought it was Watson.

Concerned said...

I don't know what him saying Taylor means in all this but
I can tell you this from that excerpt:
Davey Blackburn is no preacher!
That is the most meaningless garble I've ever heard and he calls that teaching?
Did PN not ever watch Davey at work?
Sad!

Sus said...

I did come across this, and forgot it was in the prob cause doc. We were discussing DB's SUV last night.

"Blackburn said he left his home around 6:00 A.M. in his black 1997 Honda Civic to work out at L.A. Fitness at 4015 Shore Dr. "

rosy said...

Anonymous CJ said...
December 10, 2015 at 12:10 AM
Excerpt from Worship is a Weapon on Worry

1) He refers to Taylor as a student facing "final mid-term exams" or end of semester exams. Does he mean in middle or high school? Or university? This is the video in which he holds up a cockroach in a jar, and then later shoots the airsoft gun.

That airsoft gun is not the gun he received as "Best Christmas Present Ever" on Dec 25 2013. I'm trying to find someone who can ID the gift gun from the photo. No one has responded.

CJ said...

Concerned at 12:21,

I agree, Davey is barely literate here.

The last sentence is actually the most interesting to me, given that the current discussion centers around his use of pronouns:

"You–, we feel it, we feel pressure surrounding us, I don’t know what your pressurized situation is today but every single one of us has some kind of pressurized situation, and it surrounds you and it moves in on you, and we don’t know what to do".

He starts out with you, switches to we, switches back to you, and switches back again to we.

WE feel "it"
WE feel pressure surrounding us
WE (every single one of us) has some kind of pressurized situation (I don't know what YOUR pressurized situation is today)

It surrounds YOU
It moves in on YOU

WE don't know what to do.

CJ said...

Levi Lusko said it first:

“We are always in the midst of opportunities to train for a trial we are not yet in.” — Lusko

"Train now for the trial you're not yet in, so when it comes you will instinctively look to Jesus to see you through!" — DB

rosy said...

CJ said ...
at 12:53 AM

Yes.

CJ said...

rosy,

It's a Taurus 9mm.
Scroll down to Nov. 18 here for a pic.
https://twitter.com/pajamapages

Anonymous said...

Concerned:

PN's preaching is the same...nonsense. So many words without saying anything meaningful. Why would he call it out?

SLH

CJ said...

Levi Lusko from the Through the Lion sermon:

[QUOTE]: It was two years ago that I was here preaching. I, I gave a message called “Turn Off the Dark” talking about how hurting with hope still hurts, and how to make it through this difficult thing that’s called Saturday. When we preached that message here at the church we were, we were still very much fresh in the, in the aftermath of the most difficult thing, uh, your pastor referenced it. Our daughter Lenya, five years old, she went suddenly, unexpectedly, without notice, home to Heaven just five days before Christmas.

[11:04] After I preached the first message (at Elevation) … your pastor [Steven Furtick] took me to dinner and we were eating, and as we were spending some time together — I love him so much, he’s like a brother to me, I’m truly–, like a big brother that I didn’t have in life and so I felt safe to confide something in him something that I hadn’t told anybody outside of my wife. I told him that I was thinking and praying about writing a book. I felt like God put it on my heart to put, to put to page some of these things that were in me and I told him the title. I had just come up with it and he’s literally the first person we, we shared this with, this idea — and by the way let’s pause, let’s Tivo this for a second and talk about how, how much you gotta be careful how much you share when you are pregnant with a dream. [Applause} How you don’t just be telling that to everybody because things are vulnerable when their small, when they’re in their nascent state, when they are in their seed form. They are easiest to be taken out, and they are easiest for you to be talked out of.

… And your pastor, over rock shrimp, here in Charlotte, he said to me “That’s an amazing name, that’s going to be an amazing book.” He took all of my fears and spoke faith into them and life over them. He kept texting me, “This needs to happen. The lion needs to roar. It’s gonna be powerful. Lives are going to be changed. Our church was never the same after that.” I don’t even care if it wasn’t true — it encouraged me. [UNQUOTE]

Anonymous said...

Wow, inappropriate!

Pregnant with a dream...vulnerable when they're small...seed form

How insensitive to show this after what just happened to his unborn baby!

SLH

CJ said...

SLH,

Yup.

And "they are easiest to take out."

Anonymous said...

Oh my! How awful!

The audacity...

SLH

Anonymous said...

The gun that Amanda's Grandfather gave him was a Taurus? How common are these, one of the guns found under Bull's gf's bed was a Taurus.

rdk said...

And showing no real grief or even sadness. And where are the signs of trauma that one would experience after walking in to find one's partner so severely wounded and ravaged. That in and of itself would likely create nightmares, anxiety, fearfulness for what may have become of the surviving toddler... So much is so wrong here. Do the others of his church believe as he does???

rdk said...

And showing no real grief or even sadness. And where are the signs of trauma that one would experience after walking in to find one's partner so severely wounded and ravaged. That in and of itself would likely create nightmares, anxiety, fearfulness for what may have become of the surviving toddler... So much is so wrong here. Do the others of his church believe as he does???

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