Saturday, December 5, 2015

Davey Blackburn: Man on A Mission

Husband of murdered Amanda Blackburn announced to the public that he has been sent on a mission by divine authority.  

Where he said this divine revelation happened is something not lost by criminal psychologists.

He was "in the shower" where 'God' spoke to him, in question and answer format, told him that Amanda died so his church could live, and then sent Blackburn out to do a 'mighty' work so great that history books have not ever recorded something of this magnitude.

The shower is a place where one is cleansed. 

 The reference to "water" is often found in statements (and the language) where sexual abuse, sexual assaults, and sexual homicides are noted. This is consistent with behavioral analysis where both victims and perpetrators sometimes go to wash more than normal.  I have seen victims of sexual abuse shower 6 times a day and refuse to leave home, while others become obsessive hand washers.  The damage done within sexual abuse is not only deep, but far reaching.  One child sexually abused developed an extreme fear of water.  Another scrubbed her skin raw.  

'Water' and sexual abuse go together, both behaviorally, and linguistically.  

The shower is a place of "washing" and in this place, 'God', the one who can wash, was present, and once washed, he then is sent out to do this work of historical proportion. The crowd applauded him.

First note, that he has plagiarized the theme from scripture where Isaiah, a prophet, who was in chapter 6,  brought into the presence of the Almighty which resulting in giving Isaiah a strong self awareness as his reference point in life was forever changed.  Isaiah now saw himself as distinctly unworthy with a need to be cleansed.  The symbolic language next uses fire or heat as cleansing from transgression.   Once the cleansing took place, the question went out, "Who will go out for Me?" of which the now cleansed, humble and most grateful servant, Isaiah said, "Send me!  I'll go!"

Isaiah was brought into the presence of the Almighty which gave him powerful self awareness which showed him how "undone" he really was.  What was the result of Blackburn's 'revelation'?

Blackburn's wife was murdered, and he appeared utterly unaware of how mercenary-like, uncaring and distant his language revealed him to be, including after 'corrections' and subsequent statements.  

Blackburn has his own spin on Isaiah, but even within the narcissistic self imputation, he reveals that, as his mentor said, "something is very wrong "with him; a description that is sometimes heard when someone has a severe personality disorder.  

In Blackburn's 'vision', he comes out of it narcissistic and the center of attention, not "undone" but 'worthy!' of great historic things.  

A sad side note is that the educated pastor of the church did not recognize the twisted plagiarizing of the Biblical account, and how Blackburn used it  to make "Davey front and center" in the upcoming historical, nation- shaking event.   

Does Davey Blackburn delude himself  into believing he is a prophet on a mission, like Isaiah?  This would be difficult enough to deal with, but...

Does Davey  Blackburn see himself more as equal with God? 

  Is this the reason he uses the pronoun "we" as often as he does?

Q.  Does Blackburn suffer a form of delusion where he has equated himself with God in a way that makes him unique not only in the world, but in history?

A.  His language gives us the answer.  

Next note, the "Mission" of the man of Isaiah's vision. 

Isaiah came out so humbled and grateful, that he was willing to be a servant. 

Davey came out, and at age 30, not only arrogantly rebuked his father-in-law's entire congregation (who are a reflection of his work) but called his own congregation "my children."  He is now the chosen one to re-write the history books and the arrogance was immediate in his short speech.  He went from "I don't know if I can even talk" feigning of grieving to announcing that he, through Amanda's death, will give "life" to the "dead" church.  

The progression of this "mission" has been clear from the moment this story broke.  

From her own words and video, Amanda appeared to be a very loving, quiet, Christian mother who took her faith seriously.  She was publicly humiliated by her husband while alive, and now dead, she is having her private diary read, like a movie trailer, whetting the appetite of the intended audience for the big release.  

Amanda may have 'hindered' his 'career ambitions' in life, but in death she is now tasked with bringing the nation's churches back to life, and we don't have to guess who will carry this message.  

When the horrible news of the murder took place, Blackburn released a statement that said, in effect,
"But my career goes on!"

This was what caused the Fox News commentator to point out the narcissism of the statement, as well as the blaring omission of love for Amanda or his slain child, as well as fear of the killer. 

Blackburn continued this "mission" theme, recognizing how this death has been the bonanza of free national advertising.  While he should have been grieving, or in the least, scared out of his mind that the killers were coming back for him or his son, instead, he had the wherewithal to tell his church, 

'the nation is watching, if media tries to talk to you, here is what I want you to tell them, and oh, by the way, wear jeans and come laugh...'

He would orchestrate, choreograph, and control every detail, down to flashing a gun, wearing tight shirts, and telling people what to say and wear.  The arrogance is extreme but matches the language and if you thought he was arrogant before, what is to come of him now, that he has conversed with the Almighty in the shower?

This, from a man who's wife and unborn child were murdered and the killer on the loose who refused to say "I love Amanda" or demand justice, or even express concern for the killers "out there" who could kill his neighbors.  

"Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.'

What would you say if your wife had just been sexually assaulted and brutally murdered?  Remember, the killer had removed her clothing.

If you could even speak after losing your better half, would you have the presence of mind that he had?

Once on TV, he gave the 'yeah, yeah, the family is grieving  but guess what?  6,500 customers tuned in online alone and...'

People were shocked.  


At the memorial, his mentor spoke.  You may have thought it would be about the Resurrection of Christ, or about Amanda. 

It wasn't.  

It was about Davey Blackburn and the language was that of first warning that something was very wrong with him, 
something that only a woman could fix, and then it was how "beautiful" or sexy Davey is.  

Huh?

What does this mean?

It means that while speaking of Amanda's death, he was thinking about Davey and sex.  

If you think this was not 'sexy' language, take note of Perry Noble's own defensive qualifier. He knew it was when he said the unnecessary:  "If you're a man, you know what I am talking about."  

What is it here that men would understand, but not women?

It is an alarming statement and the context, again, is key.  

Remember:  everyone takes showers.  Showers can be relaxing and people like to be cleansed, and like to think, or even sing in the shower.  

Few people, however, feel the need to tell the public about being in the shower.  

Statement Analysis recognizes the linguistic need of water, not water itself, in statements where sexual abuse or sexual homicide are indicated.  

The key is context:  the need to say where he was when visited and conversing with the Almighty. No one asked him, "Where were you when God talked to you?"

It is an unnecessary part of the sentence and that which is unnecessary is deemed "doubly important" in analysis.  

Blackburn's best friend told the public what they "needed" to hear during the memorial.  What did the public need to hear?  Was it about the resurrection from the dead?  Was it about how kind, thoughtful and loving Amanda was?

No, they needed to hear something else. 

They "needed" to hear about Davy's alibi.  

He and Davey talked every week for one hour.  

Why would the public need to hear this?

It reveals his own doubts about "Crazy Davey" but it also raises a question by what he did not say:  


He did not mention if this talking for one hour, at the same time, included Davey staying outside in the driveway for 40 minutes every week, or this was just the week that he not only forgot to lock the door, but stayed outside on the phone instead of continuing in doors where, his wife was still alive, but bled out.  Consider this when you read his own father's comment about brain activity and the loss of blood.  

Would she have survived had he not sat outside for 40 minutes on this one particular week?

It was Blackburn, himself, who felt the need to tell the congregation that he was in the shower, naked.
Amanda was found murdered, with her clothing off.

It is Blackburn, himself, who hears 'God' talking. 

 What did 'God" tell him?

Amanda died so his church could live.

This certainly justifies Amanda's death for one who's ambition for his career was enough to make his own wife want to leave him, but wrapped in enough religious language and people applauded.  

Previously, Amanda had complained that her husband's work in his church was so much that she wanted to move back home with her parents.

Blackburn, previously, had said that a wife could "slingshot" or harm a man's career in a church. It was quite a warning.  

Blackburn had publicly complained about Amanda and pregnancy making for a bad marriage.  

What was his specific and public complaint about her?

It was sex.

Where did his 'God" have this Q & A session?

In the place where one is cleansed, in the language of those who are victims of sexual abuse, perpetrators of sexual abuse, or work in the field of sexual abuse:  the language of water.

What did his mentor talk about at Amanda's memorial?

Sex.  

Does the mentor have his own doubts about Blackburn?

Blackburn, even before the killer was caught, spoke of "Amanda's Story" and had family selling t shirts to raise money, though his career seems to be uninterrupted financially, and life insurance may be in the waiting.  

The obsession with career is more than just an obsession, it appears to be a frightening justification of Amanda's death.  

Why the need to justify the death?

"Amanda died to give life to the church' is blasphemous to Christians who hold that God gave His Son, Christ, to die so that His church would live.  

Is he equating himself with God?

The father-in-law, as pastor, gave affirmation with silence and then the audience showed its approval.  

His "vision" and his "Q&A" with 'God', has signaled that he is no longer bound by Scripture, (own authority as a cultist) and he is off on a mission. Since he went beyond Scripture, even any claim of "extra Biblical revelation" itself, being "of Scripture" is now null and void since it is in plain contradiction of Scripture. Those of the faith will understand why this is so important.  The authority now is no longer a written standard; it is Davey and whatever 'God' tells him is now authoritative.  

How far is he going to take this? 

His ambition is limitless; so much so that the murder of his own wife is but a yawn compared to the commercial opportunities.  His followers are impressed by his non reaction, as if, as one detective put it, he was already perfected in heaven, while yet being here on earth. 

If it is a show, it is one talented showman.  The lack of emotion and absence of fear of the killers, however, is more consistent with guilty knowledge than any sales technique connected to 'higher life' or stoic living.   

His language has signaled an obsession that, since first written, has shown neither filter nor ability to contain himself, and appears to have become either unhinged, or 'set free' to do any and everything he can to promote himself. 

He now believes himself to be directed by 'God' to be thrust into history.  This could prove to be something almost impossible to talk one out of.   He and 'God' both gave their loved ones to give life to the church.  I use 'God' due to the conflict of definition and respect to readers.  This man's delusional guilty language is an affront to many people of faith.  Think of the men who predicted the end of the world only to, once the date passed, feign a mea culpa and go back and set yet another date.  This form of ego is near impossible to reason with and the results can be tragic. 

His plagiarism of Isaiah may be readily seen by us, though not the pastor where he spoke, nor his followers, but what is not seen by his followers is what he is plainly stating:

                  His need to be cleansed.  

Of what?  

I am not sure, for even victims of childhood sexual abuse, as adults, express 'guilt' and a need to be cleansed from it, often evidenced through self loathing and self destructive behavior. 

Again, I return to context.  

Davey Blackburn is telling us of his need to be cleansed and it comes in context of his wife's murder. 

"For us, we have nothing to hide."

This is a statement of guilt by one who has ascribed himself both prophet like status, and Divine like status and he is on a mission. 

Is it a guilt from capitalizing so blatantly on her death, including the deliberate misuse of Scripture?
Is it a guilt from having done some other things wrong, in relation to his bad marriage?  Is this what is behind all the sex language from both him and his mentor?  Does his mentor signal concern about Davey Blackburn and sex?

Or, is the guilt far worse, as in one who, somewhere along the line, met criminal elements, even in 'counseling' sessions, and told them of his bad marriage, and how she did not satisfy him sexually and how much she is hurting his career...

Even now, they are plainly stating that money sales are going straight to "Davey and Weston", which in using the child's name, is a form of emotional manipulation.  It is unnecessary to  include the name, therefore, the inclusion, itself, is "sensitive" to whoever wrote it or had it written.  

Did he lose his salary?
Was Amanda supporting them?

Why the need for money now, since even some weekly expenditures have just gone down?  

Go back to that which is central; the context. 

All of this comes from the murder of Amanda Blackburn. 

The obvious hamming for the camera, the 'working of the room,' the marketing and  exploitation of his wife's death, all are tangents away from that which brought him into prominence in the first place and gave him his national audience.  

The central issue and the point of all comes from this:  Amanda's murder is not just the "lucky" odds-breaker of someone who openly complained about his marriage, but her murder is the "marching orders" of which a man now claims to have heard from the Almighty that he is called to "breathe life" into his church (whom he calls his "children") but to an entire nation.  

We should not lose focus as we see the bizarre ego-centric cult beginnings: . 

It is a murder investigation with coincidences that need to be thoroughly known.  

Blackburn is a man on a mission.  

When one sees himself as having a personal conversation with 'God' it is near impossible to reason with him. 

He is "special" above and beyond all others. 

By the fact that he has a talent for performance, a good intellect and can perform as he does, makes it very challenging to reason with him.  It often takes a "comeuppance" to bring someone "down to earth", like a tragedy. 

Instead, the tragedy of Amanda's murder has thrust him further from reality, not closer, and has vaunted him to this incredible personal status with 'God', where he is so special, and so wonderful, and so very different than everyone else, that he, himself, is chosen to do a work that history has not yet written about, placing him above the greats of American history, who accomplished things, but were not sent of 'God' like he was.  

He will not be bound by reason. 
He will not be bound by criticism. 

And he has now told us:

He will not be bound, nor limited even by Scripture, itself. 

If he has had no connection to the shooters, completely, and the source of his guilt not known, what becomes of him when he does not "rewrite" history books with his life?  Beyond reason, what happens when, in a sense, the 'date setting' fails?

What, in effect, does the equating himself with God actually tell us about his future plans of glory?

Listen to him. 

Listen carefully to what he has told us when he supplanted Christ with Amanda. 

He is a man on a mission to use books, television, movies, internet, and whatever it takes to spread the word:

 '...for 'Davey so loved the world, that he gave Amanda life to make the church live..."







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Kim said...

Anonymous said...
Kim I keep refreshing the Resonate page but it hasn't been posted yet. Do we know for sure he spoke today? Maybe he was just in the audience.

December 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM

I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine Davey missing an opportunity to be the center of attention and at least address the congregation since he did as much at AB's dad's church. He has to portray the part of the grieving husband and play on the sympathy of the Nation in order to fill those seats!

Tania Cadogan said...

rosy said...

tania cadogan said...
.... It really is impossible to do this life alone!
DO life and NOT LIVE life?
I spy leaking marbles :)
December 6, 2015 at 12:29 PM

Asked and answered - "do life" is part of hip neo-Evangelist catch-phrases, book titles and Twitter hashtags such as #dolifewithjesus The idiom seems to be used to build community and "the body of Christ" by encouraging church members to socialize with one another, and to hold one another accountable. Don't just follow Jesus, do life with Jesus and one another as his disciples did:
http://mikemoses.typepad.com/purple_pastor/2015/05/doing-life-together-like-jesus-a-blessing-and-a-curse.html



It still sounds wrong.
His disciples lived life with jesus, they did not 'do life' with jesus.

I don't do life, i live life.
You don't do life, you live life.
We don't do life, we live life.

The only ones that do life are those sentenced to a life term in prison.

They will do a life term, they will not live a life term.

Anonymous said...

So sorry to ask. It can someone post the link to the grill sermon. After seeing all the discussion I have to watch it but can't find the link now. Please and thank you! BC

Tania Cadogan said...

If you're not dead, God's not done.
Perry Noble

Read more at: http://www.azquotes.com/author/54023-Perry_Noble


Really?

Presumably god is done with Amanda and what do you do when you are done with something?
You dispose of it in the garbage.

WTG noble, another foot in mouth moment brought to you by rentagob sponsored by buy your way to the pearly gates beach resorts

Anonymous said...

Going back to the grill story video. https://vimeo.com/120572218 I watched and transcribed a few minutes from about 7:00 - 10:00. I also described some movements and facial expressions in parentheses. Davey seems very genuine for a minute while describing pain - as if he knows the subject very well and has experienced quite a bit of it. Also he makes a face when talking about being "honest" in church. The damaged grill didn't make him just mad at Amanda, it made him SAD/MAD because it reminded him of every other time he'd been DENTED/HURT in his life.

Davey – talking about finding his grill face down on the patio:

“… and completely defaced it. Now I was ticked. I was, I was literal, I can’t remember another time in my life that I was that mad because I spent a lot on this grill. I mean this was a, this was the Chicano Glory grill. I mean, this was no just, little tiny, I’m like, and so she’s like, Dah, (claps hands) I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, and I was just like, Whatever…
Husbands, huh, free marriage advice. Don’t ever tell your wife whatever. OK, just, huh, that’s, (claps hands) that was free, huh…
I’m like, whatever, and I didn’t talk to her for a couple of days. She’s like Davey, I’m so sorry, (claps hands) I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, and I was like, I can’t, and here’s why (claps hands) it was so painful. I still have that grill to this day, and every time I pull that grill out, I look at the front of the grill and it’s dented. It won’t even open up properly, you open up the thing and it’s like ku, ku, ku, right, and you’re like, ahhh, and you’re trying. Every time (claps hands) I get in front of that grill, every time I try to grill, go, grill out it reminds me of when somebody did something to me that hurt me. They put a dent in my life.

Now listen (claps hands), that’s my grill story. But I wonder, in here, how many of us, that’s our life story. I wonder how many of us, who would be honest. Now, I know you’re not used to being honest in church (makes face & sighs – time 8:19), but I wonder how many of us would say, hey man (claps hand), somebody did something to me, or somebody said something to me, that caused pain in my life and it dented me up, (time 8:32) and it hurt, and every time you think about that person, and every time you think about that situation, every time you look back on that, or you see the person at the grocery story, it reminds you of that pain. The feelings of that pain well up inside of you. And listen, I get it. There, there’s probably not one of us in here who have not been hurt at some point in our lives.

And I want, I want to talk about, like, like, legitimately, how do we get over that pain? This is not going to be one of those messages where it’s just like (angry coach voice? Time 9:09) “You gotta get over it. You shouldn’t feel that way.” Because, I mean (claps hands), seriously, it’s real. There are some of us in who (9:16), here who have experienced pain, that, like, if you were to, tell us the story we wouldn’t believe it, because it’s so unfathomable how much pain you’ve had to endure from other people.

But I believe (claps hands), I believe that Jesus Christ not only died on a cross but raised from the dead so that, listen, we could overcome that pain.”

Anonymous said...

I think there is a 0% chance the neighbors put up a Christmas tree. Its an absurd thought.

Wife and baby murdred: holla! Holiday cheer needed! Let's go in neighbor's house, dig through things, go in attic. Etc.

I am certain that never happened.




PS: if i sign up for a name, does it allow me to skip the verification? How do I do that? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 3:53 posting the Grill Story and Pain transcript was me.

What sticks out to me is the face Davey makes when he talks about honesty in church, the grocery store detail, the imitative coach voice, and pain that people wouldn't believe.

Bobcat

rosy said...

Girasol said...
December 6, 2015 at 2:18 PM
Is he really an evil wolf in sheep's clothing who murdered his wife, or just a beautiful dumb desperate entitled man-boy whose world was crumbling anyway and now is dealing with a random tragedy in a way that is horribly impaired and incomprehensible to most, but is the only way he knows and is capable of....
My personal jury is still very much out on this, and waiting for the 911 call
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree with you on this. Comforting books address the topic of "When Bad Things Happen to Good People." Sometimes reality bites back with "When Bad Things Happen to Bad People." More material evidence will tell.

On your "white bread white boy", yes. But repeatedly he flirts, plays peek-a-boo, with tough, violent, bad-ass language and with disgust-arousing sensations associated with the human body.

In a FUSE sermon/skit for students in Carolina he riffs on buying tampons for his wife and catching a man laughing at him (imaginary): "So what d’I do, I turned around and punched him in the throat man – no."

In this same sermon, ordering everyone in the audience to sniff their own armpit then sniff neighbor's armpit (which they all resist).

In this same sermon, as (inaccurate) illustration of Saul's violence in persecuting early Christians - compares to "capping a 6th grader and throwing his body in a dumpster."

Louise K said...

wait...what?

She dented his grill and he didn't SPEAK TO HER FOR TWO DAYS??????????

what in the effing eff....?

The Grill is a CONSTANT reminder of Amanda "denting his life"???? seriously? How long ago did she dent it FFS?

What would Jesus say if someone dented his grill, Davey boy?

Go sulking in the shed for 2 weeks? I doubt it

To pp Gandhi...Ï love your Christ...your Christians however, are a different story

Turner said...

I finally looked at his Twitter yesterday and did see a picture of Amanda posted on 11-07-14 putting up their Christmas tree. Davey said "I'm so pumped about this" :)

Anonymous said...

I recall one of the local news stories where a reporter was outside and mentioned a Christmas tree in the living room window. Am j dreaming this or did anyone else remember this?

Anonymous said...

Louise,

I'm not excusing his behavior, but trying to dig even deeper into why he had such an extreme reaction. He TELLS us that the dented grill reminds him of every other time in his life that someone hurt him. There is more in the next few minutes of the sermon that hints to Davey's pain.

Anonymous said...

WHY why why are Amanda's friends talking about her "accident" - like as if Amanda was in a car crash or stubbed her toe in the garage (looking at you, Elizabeth Liz Enfield Henderson and others). It looks like ostriches sticking their heads in the sand and saying "this isn't happening" to call this anything other than a murder, killing, brutal, senseless. It wasn't a circumstance, it wasn't an event, it wasn't a happening, IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT.

It was planned.

I refuse to believe that the peace of God can have all of these people smiling on videos while Amanda was still on life support - and Davey exhibiting the traits he has since November 10th.

CJ said...

Girasol at 12:28.

The phrase "do life with" keeps coming up in statements from Davey, Resonate Church and also in the megachurch movement at large. For instance, in an instagram post from the woman married to Davey's co-pastor:

"One of my greatest privileges in this life - sharing the platform with @amandagblackburn! I was nervous out of my mind, but there was a calmness that came just from sitting beside her. There was a peace that came just from doing life with her. I couldn't have asked for a better ministry wife/partner to do life with. And I wish I could soak in and write down every wonderful thing I ever learned from her. I miss her terribly today. Love you more than words #amandagrace.

In the context of this culture, it appears that to "do life with" implies:

1. A "real-life" relationship (face-to-face component, geographic closeness)
2. Shared goals and vision
3. Mutual struggles, mutual support.

In this culture there are also unexpected terms of endearment used towards people one is not in intimate relationship with. Note that in the passage above, Amanda's friend refers to her as her "ministry wife/partner." Men refer to each other as "my man" and "bro" and lavish affection on each other:

Perry Noble ‏@perrynoble Dec 3
Happy 40th bday to @jaysizzle31 - this world would not be as much fun without you! Love you, am proud of you - the best is yet to come!

Kenneth Wagner ‏@kennethwagner Dec 1
I flippin' love conversations with @daveyblackburn!
It's awesome when your best friend is one of your greatest heroes.
Love you bro!

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, I just watched the grill talk too. I was also struck by DB's comment about horrible pain:

"There are some of us in who (9:16), here who have experienced pain, that, like, if you were to, tell us the story we wouldn’t believe it, because it’s so unfathomable how much pain you’ve had to endure from other people."

Anonymous said...

DB also TELLS us that the way he was taught to get over pain was in a coaches voice:
“You gotta get over it. You shouldn’t feel that way.”

DB continues:
"Because, I mean, seriously, it’s real. There are some of us in WHO, HERE who have experienced pain, that, like, if you were to, tell us the story we wouldn’t believe it, because it’s so unfathomable how much pain you’ve had to endure from other people.
But I believe, I believe that Jesus Christ not only died on a cross but raised from the dead so that, listen, we could overcome that pain.”

I find the stumble in who, here who, interesting, like he almost slipped up saying it was HE WHO had experienced the pain...

Bobcat

Anonymous said...

And I think the "dented grill incident" was when he and Amanda were living in South Carolina - because he talked about the nice climate and being able to grill out most of the year, as opposed to living in Indiana where there would be like a two month (if that) window of time to be outside.

Hadn't they lived in Indianapolis for three or four years already by the time this video was shot in February 2015 ? (I believe that was when it was shot). Anyone who could hold onto that rage and be able to speak in such frustration about it (and show such blame for it) this many years later was definitely capable of eliminating the problem forever.

Louise K said...

Anonymous 4.11

get an ID

but

I totally agree

Accidental damage of a freakn grill apparently causing The Most Pain and Anger DB Had Ever Suffered In HIs LIFE -

The guy mustve been a NIGHTMARE

and he pretends to be Godly

when we all know what Jesus would do = buy another grill, offer it to be damaged too

Not our Davey who used a small dent in an inanimate object as fuel for a 2 day Isolation for Amanda despite apologizing repeatedly?

That POOR GIRL

and Davey - standing up there pretending to be Gods Representative - showing the most Unchristian and Ungodlike behavior to his wife, SHARING THE STORY like a freakin narcissist - beyond bizarre.

HOW do people fall for these shiny tiny brains...????

Anonymous said...

My MIL is Borderline Personality Disorder and my poor FIL had been through many ups and downs over the past 35 years. It really is a love/hate relationship with those closest to someone with BPD. Davey posted photos on social media in 2006 that I presume were from their early dating period. From the comments in the photos we see that Davey is capable of expressing his love for Amanda. He was like a puppy in love with her. I keep pondering if he really isn't involved in her death but that his narcissistic behavior is what makes him react in this strange manner. After reviewing his other posts we can see that he is truly capable of expressing love. It leads me to believe he may be Borderline personality. BC

Louise K said...

righto another diagnosis this time BPD

I have BPD and I cried until my eyes nearly popped out when my cat died

DB is MOST likely to be psychopathic.

BPD's have empathy. BPDs are in emotional overload, all the time

DAVEY SHOWS NO EMOTION except enjoyment, envy, and displeasure

zero empathy = psychopathy not BPD

FFS!!!! grrrrr

Anonymous said...

Louise 4:20

It's me, Bobcat (I keep forgetting to sign - will get ID)

Accidental damage didn't cause the most Pain, but made him MAD!
It made him MAD because it REMINDED him of all the times he'd been HURT and made to feel PAIN.

This is what he's telling us.

He may have been hurt as a child (water/shower and sexual language are indicators of sexual abuse)
He saw his abuser at the grocery store.
He was not allowed to deal with the pain... "You gotta get over it. You shouldn't feel that way" other than putting it onto Jesus.

Read the transcript - it's all there.

Bobcat

Anonymous said...

I may be looking at this too in depth, but it seems odd that Davey was so upset about the dented grill, and Amanda's mouth (her grill) was busted up. His grill was found face down, and so was Amanda. He was so angry he didn't speak to her for two days. The grill was symbolic to him of all the hurts in his life. Could he have take revenge on Amanda, making her suffer for all the pain he's had in his life?

Just random thoughts...

Louise K said...

Hi Bob

yeah im not SAing anything Db says anymore

the first GMA appearance was enough for me

Not a tear to be seen

When my cat died my bff a nurse was worried for my eyesight I'd cried so much

You cant fake or hide that sort of grief

I went around with slits for eyes for a week, could barely see

There isn't an eyedrop in the world that can cover those sort of deep heartfelt grieving tears

You cant turn them off '

Even now 3 months later I still cry when I talk about her

Db has NEVER shed a tear, id warrant on or off stage

Because he's not sorry

He's THRILLED

Louise K said...

Yes

im starting to think maybe DB himself taped Amanda to a chair

smacked her in the face with the gun himself (that's for damaging my grill, bitch) then left her helpless for when the Hit Man came along

Anonymous said...

Here's more on Borderline.

Borderline personality disorder affects how you feel about yourself, how you relate to others and how you behave.

Signs and symptoms may include:

An intense fear of abandonment, even going to extreme measures to avoid real or imagined separation or rejection
A pattern of unstable intense relationships, such as idealizing someone one moment and then suddenly believing the person doesn't care enough or is cruel
Rapid changes in self-identity and self-image that include shifting goals and values, and seeing yourself as bad or as if you don't exist at all
Periods of stress-related paranoia and loss of contact with reality, lasting from a few minutes to a few hours
Impulsive and risky behavior, such as gambling, reckless driving, unsafe sex, spending sprees, binge eating or drug abuse, or sabotaging success by suddenly quitting a good job or ending a positive relationship
Suicidal threats or behavior or self-injury, often in response to fear of separation or rejection
Wide mood swings lasting from a few hours to a few days, which can include intense happiness, irritability, shame or anxiety
Ongoing feelings of emptiness
Inappropriate, intense anger, such as frequently losing your temper, being sarcastic or bitter, or having physical fights

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:32
I thought of that too!

Maybe when he talked about new grills, he meant BBQs and not fake teeth?

Bobcat

rosy said...

The pain talk has one single purpose, to recruit and retain vulnerable "broken" paying clients/customers.

Amanda was a key player in this. She had zero training toward any professional qualification in counseling "troubled" adults and young people. Resonate Church is not part of any network of recognized qualified counseling services. Resonate Church appears to lack anything like a board of qualified people overseeing counseling activity.

Amanda's role was to share Jesus and bring in converts.

Davey "sharing" of his own dark thoughts and pain -- including his big "Lie" confession in his blog - are aimed at attracting followers with something of their own to share back at him.

So, he tells a story about anger at his wife over a dent in his grill. The more he hypes any incident from his own life and the deeper he can go to evoke pain in his own life, the more (he has been taught by PN) they will trust him and share their pain, failings, and "sins." Money problems, drug addiction, family violence, sexual abuse, psychological problems. To anything and everything the answer is Jesus and tithing.

Maxie said...

This man is such a vile creature. It wasn't enough to put his loving wife through torment for 2 days, while she begged for forgiveness. No, no. He has to drag her through it again in front of everyone. Davey, do you know what anguish she felt as you described her "failure" in front of everybody? No, you wouldn't. I forget, it's all about you.

Grill vs human. Such a hard choice.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Davey doesn't want to be GRILLed about Amanda's death?!

Seriously, per speculation about DB's sexuality & criticism of that speculation...If he was having an affair with a man or a woman, or both, & that gave DB or the lover of whatever sex motive (possibly), then it really doesn't matter what sexual orientation he and his possible lover(s) are, BUT, it DOES matter if Amanda discovered the affair. And, given DB's need to pay $10 a month for a tracking service to email PN & Amanda weekly, per porn viewing....Well, a heterosexual affair & heterosexual porn addiction could certainly be an issue in their marriage, but, more couples counseling could prove helpful. However, a homosexual / bisexual affair & porn addiction...Well, even Amanda might realize she couldn't "pray away the gay."

All entirely speculation. But, it could end up being pertinent...or, not.

-L

Anonymous said...

@tania, rosy on "doing" life

OK I see that this may be jargon in wider use within the subculture, possibly of little importance in context of these recent events

and also that a prison analogy may be a tenuous interpretation.

But I suppose we can also question this another way:

How is doing life different to living it?

Makes it sound more like a task where (despite the apparent passion of tweets etc...) process is the main driver, in the way that a person could be said to "do" their job rather than "live" or "live for" it

Or...more self-conscious and image-focused..."look at you and me doing this" is not the same as just living the experience...

somehow it sounds less convincing, as if attempting to collectively shore up a lack of real conviction....


- Girasol


Anonymous said...

Louise,

I too think DB is guilty in Amanda's death.
I'm just trying to figure out (NOT EXCUSE) how he got to where he did, that it happened.

A small/defenseless child that is harmed is going to be damaged in some way. A child who tells a parent that someone harmed them, and is not supported through treatment, may be doubly damaged because the people who are supposed to protect them have failed twice.

Bobcat

rosy said...

Anonymous L said...
@December 6, 2015 at 4:48 PM

In point of fact some Christians in Indiana and elsewhere do believe they can "pray away the gay." Governor Pence is one who believes this and opposes gay marriage and anything else gay. I bet he opposes gay Christmas trees.

To the catalog of types of pornography which Amanda would not have been able to tolerate, add child pornography. That would be the deal breaker.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, I think you're on to something. Everyone loved Amanda and was genuine, "the real deal". He most likely was jealous of her and her connection with all those around her including her sincere relationship with God. His resentfulness most likely escalated especially if she was sharing concern of his sermons and leadership in church and home. He did not know how to handle criticism or correction. BC

Turner said...

Well the tag line/mission statement on the front page of church website is....
"We'll do whatever it takes to connect people to life change"
Analyze. That. Please.

For the first time I looked at Twitter & looked up Perry Noble. Even after all the lol descriptions you guys posted of PN, I wasn't prepared for that. Shocking, how can anyone take him serious? What exactly is a mega church (beyond televangelism)?
Statement Analysis is brilliant! It validate our instincts, what our guts are telling us, at its core seems to be just human nature and the way we systematically "do" things.

Anonymous said...

@rosy

yes I agree, and have also suggested so previously..these on-stage stories could easily be dramatic exaggerations attempting to lower the bar for others to come forward with their own, lesser sins of pride, lust, false witness or whatever - you are among fellow sinners who understand. Bait 'em and reel 'em in. The way he does it may be further over the top than others, but I think it is a common enough trope in his world (PN etc...) that it is clearly part of the whole MO.

- Girasol

rosy said...

Anonymous Girasol said...
at 4:48

Yes, jargon is the word for it. The purpose of this jargon overall, made up of countless little phrases, is to create a realm for cool hip new-style evangelist believers.

Take Hillsong: "Hillsong is a church that believes in Jesus, a church that loves God and people." Keep it simple, stupid. Hillsongers "are on mission to see God’s kingdom established across the earth."

So in Sweden, someone (Eric L***)bio's his Twitter account: "Husband to B****, dad to A*** & M***, have Hillsong Stockholm in my heart, living in Stockholm, Sweden. Love doing life with everyONE that's apart of it!"

He's not thinking of jail. He's doing life with a community of neo-Evangelists. Each church with its own well-chosen, pop-group name.

Louise K said...

Just watching 60 minutes on Aussie's Wife Murderer, Gerard Baden Clay.

Another vain arsehat who wanted to be single again without it hitting his hip pocket.

Another one who thought he was the smartest in the room.

This IDIOT appeared on camera with scratches on his face even! That's how smug he was!

rosy said...

"Doing life" -- one more citation from current Christian discourse:

"May you follow the way of Jesus, friends, particularly by doing life together with fellow disciples of our Savior."
http://mikemoses.typepad.com/purple_pastor/2015/05/doing-life-together-like-jesus-a-blessing-and-a-curse.html

DB urgently wanted to remain a member in and leader of this sort of community.

terrydeb said...

Wait... wait... If Davey isn't showing any grief/anger over Amanda because it's the "Christian" thing to do (it's not). Why did he get so angry over a grill??!?

rosy said...

Resonate church web page says

Next Worship Experience
December 13, 2015 10:15 am

So was there was no Worship Experience today? The previous one Recorded November 22, 2015 was God of the Valley with guest speaker Kaleb White.

Tania Cadogan said...

Maxie said...

Wait... wait... If Davey isn't showing any grief/anger over Amanda because it's the "Christian" thing to do (it's not). Why did he get so angry over a grill??!?

December 6, 2015 at 5:39 PM


Grills aren't going to consign him to hell :)
Grill aren't judgmental or vengeful otherwise every abused steak or sausage or burger would result in a lot of men learning how to bbq properly in the fiery pits :)

BallBounces said...

Here's a transcript of what Davey Blackburn said in the 11/29 sermon. Commas sometimes indicate where Davey paused, rather than where they would go grammatically.

I had a thought this morning in the shower and um felt like the Lord spoke to my heart and said “Davey I want my church, I want my bride to come alive”. [Father-in-Law (FIL) nods head in agreement.] “And if I’d asked you Davey before this if you were willing to give up your bride so that my bride could come alive what would you have said?”. Hmmf. And course just like anybody I said “absolutely not. There’s no way. I’m good. I’m good with being married and with having two little kids and with pastoring a church of 120 for the rest of my life. I’m good with comfort.” And the Lord said, “that’s why I didn’t ask you the question beforehand”. [Davey nods head affirmatively.] Because sometimes when you say ‘I I surrender all’ you really mean ‘I surrender some’ until you’re put into a situation where you have to surrender all.

And, um, I I wanna share with you just real quick something the Lord has, spoke to my heart just right there, [pointing to pews] and I feel it would be disobedient for me not to share it.

And so I’m used to having carefully crafted phrases and sentences and speaking things that are powerful into people’s life because the Lord has allowed preparation and he hasn’t allowed that right now and so, I want to ask for your grace in all of this but…

The Lord brought my attention to Ezekiel, the prophet, that God used in a mighty way, to speak into the heart of his, of his kids. And he brought me to the passage in Ezekiel chapter 37, where he brought Ezekiel to the top of a mountain and he looked over across the valley and there was dry bones. Um, a vast army of dry bones, that had been dead for some time. And he said “Ezekiel speak life”, he said “speak over these bones”, and Ezekiel spoke, and immediately the bones began to rattle and began to shake and they began to construct themselves back together and then tendons and muscle tissue and skin actually formed on the bones, but it said the bones had no life in them. And he said, Ezekiel speak again, over the valley of dry bones. And so Ezekiel spoke again and it says the breath was breathed into the beings.

[pause]

BallBounces said...

(cont'd)

And that breath is the breath of life; it’s the Holy Spirit of God, that breathes life into you and me. And I believe Ezekiel spoke the gospel, of Jesus Christ, over, that valley of dry bones. The Bible doesn’t indicate what he spoke and so we have to kinda fill in the blanks there but I know there’s only one truth that can bring life, and that’s the light of life, that’s Jesus Christ, and the good news of Jesus how he gave up his life so that we could have life. [pause]

And uh last, last year close to this time I spoke a message here, and whether you get offended by this or not, I don’t know and, and honestly I don’t, it doesn’t really bother me if you do but, when I looked out across this congregation I saw a valley of dry bones. [pause]

I saw people who had life once, but there was staleness and I believe from that moment I’ve heard story after story after story after story of uh how God has been beginning to reconstruct this congregation in such a way as it can advance forward as an army. And I believe what God has done over this past year through Revive and through many other efforts is that he has built tendons and muscle tissue and skeleton and structure back into this place, and I believe that what God is doing now through this event, God is now breathing life into this vast army. And I believe that, that in some way, some shape, some form, that, and we can’t wrap our minds around it theologically, God didn’t, God didn’t cause this to happen, but he allowed it, to happen in such a way, he allowed the breath of Amanda to come out of her so that the breath could be breathed into you and into me so that we could advance the gospel in a way that history books have never even told. [FIL: that’s right]

And I believe it’s going to come out of this house, I believe it’s going to come out of our house in Indianapolis. I believe that in this region God’s going to do something, from the crossroads of America that’s going to scatter across America and we’re going to see a revival, like we’ve never seen before.

And I believe God wants to use you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you and you a thousand times over to do that.

So please do me a favor. Don’t let this be wasted. Don’t let this be wasted. Breathe the breath of life and exhale it into the people that you come in contact with on a daily basis who don’t know Jesus. And let’s watch Jesus take trash and turn it into treasure, take ashes and turn it into beauty, take ruin and turn it into his glorious grace. Let’s do it together.

I love you guys. Thank you. [FIL applauds; they hug; congregation gives standing ovation; FIL says, “way to go, buddy, way to go”.]

rosy said...

Re-watching Nov 29 video in which Davey presents his prophetic vision, it's true (as someone here said/wondered) that Davey SPRINGS IT on his father in law.

FOL hands Davey a recruiting bible and says he and the church are going to pray for Davey. FOL turns back into the aisle. Davey follows him out into the aisle, puts his arm on FOL's shoulder whispers in his ear. FOL looks surprised and asks "Right now?"

What a stunt.

DB will go on springing stunts like this on every leader he can rope into his game. It's part of his MO. He explained early on how he obtained permission to hold church in school auditorium by lunching at the same table as school principle and other school administrators till he caught their eye and he made his pitch. He's an operator.

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much BallBounces, really appreciate it!

Anonymous said...

After seeing the grill talk, I am now wondering if DB might have been abused as a child.


"There are some of us in who (9:16), here who have experienced pain, that, like, if you were to, tell us the story we wouldn’t believe it, because it’s so unfathomable how much pain you’ve had to endure from other people."


https://vimeo.com/120572218

Anonymous said...

@Kate
Thank you for posting that Facebook link to her friend. As a Christian I find the responses of everyone related to Amanda (including her parents, sister and friend) to be so strange and inappropriate to the point of almost being cultic. It's as if no one was surprised Amanda was murdered! Even if as a Christian you choose to focus on the positive, there is going to be some natural shock but not even her friend shows that. Doesn't it seem cold and heartless to anyone else that this friend posts a picture of her annual girl's shopping trip with Amanda's sister "filling her shoes"? If my sister was brutally murdered there is no way I'd be going on a happy shopping trip with her friends not even a month later. I know "life goes on" but it seems that no one is shocked or grieved over Amanda's brutal death.

Anonymous said...

I think not showing emotion in situations where others normally would (like grief/tears when spouse dies) is one of the signs that a person was abused as a child, but I could be wrong. I know I can't show grief/tears hardly ever (in the presence of others), and I was abused as a child.

Anonymous said...

God if anyone close to me dies, I know I would be dry-eyed in interviews b/c I don't cry in front of people!

rosy said...

Maxie said...
Wait... wait... If Davey isn't showing any grief/anger over Amanda because it's the "Christian" thing to do (it's not). Why did he get so angry over a grill??!?
December 6, 2015 at 5:39 PM

The grill, the best grill (in his judgement) in Lowes Hardware store, symbolized masculine achievement and power.

He's explicit about associating "grilling out" with masculinity. Men "grill out", women don't. "Grill out" is a regional blend of grill and cookout. It differentiates itself from BBQ, which African Americans do (see Barbecue Digest: Don't whitewash BBQ).

Urban dictionary (read with pinch of salty): GRILL OUT:

"A gathering of male friends (married or single) who love to cook any meat product over an open flame. They prefer to hang out together after work in the driveway and talk about their fantasy football prospects. They ... are not above squirrel hunting and cornholing...."

Davey's dream grill fell off the deck -- equivalent to emasculation, castration. Blaming his wife releases rage at long-held conviction of having being emasculated, feminized, by his upbringing and then by his marriage.This rage stems from early childhood.

The grill stood in for the object of his most powerful desire, to "own" true masculinity. He had built a deck for it with his own hands, as demonstration that he was ready to take on full masculinity, to join the men's club.

Yet just as he had smashed up the second car his father bought for him, this time he failed to perfect his deck by adding railing. He self-sabotaged, self-destructed, wrecked his own dream.

His father's reaction when he smashed the car into a wall was "Are you OK? Are you all right?"

Davey's reaction when the grill fell off the deck was to blame weather (a gust of wind) and Amanda. His anger was disproportionate because it wasn't just about the grill, the wind, the railing, and Amanda, it was about a longstanding pattern in his life that generates rage in him.

Davey lacks insight into himself.

rosy said...

* pinch of salt

Hope's Food and Family said...

I think the "decorated Christmas Tree" was in reference to DB/AB house, not the church. DBSr offered to go to the home to pick up something that CD needed, it was in the "weathered willow" sermon. He went to the home and there were several media vans there, he stated that "They" had made the descion to not speak to any media, that would be at CD's time and discretion-two neighbors met him at his vehicle and walked him to the front door. That is when he described seeing the "old furnishings made homey" and the fully decorated Christmas tree. He stated he was in the home longer than he anticipated, as he was overwhelmed, taking in all that was Amanda(paraphrasing). When he walked out, there were no neighbors and he may a brief statement to the media. I can't recall even enough to even paraphrase that statement.
But, as a Lutheran, our Church puts up a Christmas Tree in the Sanctuary and we decorate it throughout Advent. It has never been uncommon for an ELCA to have a Christmas tree, just not at the 1st part of November

BallBounces said...

This comment is not given in defence of Davey Blackburn. It is offered as an alternative perspective.

Unlike Isaiah, Blackburn does not suggest that he had a vision from or of God, or that he was transported into the presence of God and given a mission by God, as Isaiah was. Rather, he speaks of God speaking to his heart. In saying this, and using this language, he is following the example of countless evangelical pastors and parishioners who talk of God speaking to their hearts. It does not follow from this that they -- or he -- are supplanting the authority of Scripture, or that they are in any way making themselves equal with God. If anything, Davey says, in effect, Amanda's death was something God allowed (but did not cause), but something Davey would not have agreed to -- thus distancing himself from God.

David's interpretation of Amanda's death, and his making it about him and what he would or would not have agreed to, is appalling, but if you look at what he actually says I do not believe he is presenting Amanda's death as salvific. He is saying something more in keeping with the motto of his church "Nothing Wasted" -- that God wastes nothing; even the bad things and broken things in our lives, God uses for his glory. There is precedence for this. The apostle Paul spoke of how opposition to him and the gospel he preached had actually rebounded to the glory of God and the furtherance of the gospel. The historic church has a saying: the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. This doesn't mean a martyr's death is salvific; it means that God used the circumstances of the martyrs' deaths, and their godly examples, to inspire the church to faithful witness and to soften the hearts of unbelievers.

Finally, Davey Blackburn does not say that God is sending him on a mission of historic importance. He says (and I am sure he is wrong in this) that God is giving the churches affected by Amanda's death a mission of historic importance. He does include himself in this mission.

None of this means he had anything to do with his wife's murder.

I await the 911 call.

Anonymous said...

Christmas decorations clash with Fall/Thanksgiving decorations. I get the impression that Amanda had very good taste and decorated beautifully for each season. I heard DB make a statement in one of his "sermons" about he starts celebrating Christmas "like Nov 1rst" and then basically dares anyone to question him. I never heard Amanda comment either way. I think DB had ulterior motives and forced the early tree decoration thing. I don't believe Amanda would want the clashing decor or that she would want to have a tree up for 2 mos and have to keep a curious toddler away from it especially when she was most likely dealing with the exhaustion of early pregnancy.

Anonymous said...

daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn Dec 4
I'm really thankful Isaiah 53 promises us that Jesus is familiar with our grief. He's our Sustainer through times of trouble!

GeekRad said...

Will you please stop with the Christmas tree at the Blackburn house? As rosy points out, it was in the Elkhart church and posters changed the facts in a series of posts. Can we please stink to the facts?

Hope's Food and Family said...

I agree, he also never follows up with how his "life situations" make him have a "come to Jesus moment" Re: the beautiful mistress grill, he talked on the grill for over 8 minutes or so, about its defacement and how he didn't speak to AB for two days... He never followed with the resolution! That really spoke volumes to me

Anonymous said...

I read a Nov 1st comment of Amanda at some point and think Davey "stole" the Nov 1st love of Christmas from her. She's probably been that way since they met.

Hope's Food and Family said...

I am not sure I as a neighbor would put up a decorated Christmas Tree in my neighbors home, that just lost his wife and unborn child to a brutal murder. After my Mother-in-law passed from Breast Cancer, our family did not put a Christmas tree up the first Christmas she was gone. It was to painful of a reminder, as she loved Christmas.

Anonymous said...

I stand corrected on my Christmas tree post. Thank you to those of you who pointed it the relevant facts. Note to self, when catching up read all of the comments before posting.

Kate said...

Anon @ 6:26, you're welcome. I was surpised she said accident as well. A woman who is punched so hard that her tooth is knocked out, undressed and shot three times isn't exactly an "accident". I'd be furious if it were one of my best friends and while I understand everyone reacts differently, to use the term "accident" to describe what happened to Amanda was just messed up and an attempt to rewrite the story.

Anonymous said...

Hey Geekrad.....No, that is not true. A reporter and DB's dad both stated the Christmas tree was in the Blackburn's living room. Maybe you should not rely on a single poster who brought up some off the wall notion of it being in the church. Sensitive subject huh? I can understand you not liking the facts here, but your Freudian slip reflecting that you think the facts stink is hillarious.

GeekRad said...

Anon at 7:03 was me, GeekRad. I don't know what happened there.....

rosy said...

More on Davey's grill from the point of view of how Davey elevates and transfigures his own natural desires by translating them, however jestingly, into church talk.

Recall the commandment against idolatry, have no gods of metal -- "Thou shalt make thee no molten gods" (Exodus 34:17).

An outsider might say, the grill was to Davey an idol, an object of worship, a god of metal symbolizing a desired self-manifestation (masculine identity). Ironically he calls it his Shekinah Glory grill.

In Judaism, The Shekinah "is held by some to represent the feminine attributes of the presence of God."

In contrast, some Christian ministries found themselves on the idea of the Shekinah Glory, based on Ex 40:34-35 "Then the cloud covered the tabernacle of meeting, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter the tabernacle of meeting, because the cloud rested above it, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle."

So Davey in his choice of words associated a top of the line metal grill in Lowes Hardware store with the term used "to describe the light on the mercy-seat of the Ark of the Covenant in the Holy of Holies, the Shekinah symbolizing the Divine presence." (Ex 25:8).

So, a metal grill, in this young pastor's fantasy a suburban counterpart to the ark (overlaid inside and out with pure gold). Fiery coals and smoke from the grill would attest to Davey's proximity to God (in his theology, Jesus). Of note, even Moses was excluded /protected from this experience: "The intensity of the Shekinah glory of God would have incinerated Moses and would anyone who saw Him."
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2014/05/17/what-is-shekinah-glory-is-this-in-the-bible/

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about?

Anonymous said...

I'm starting to find DB likable and a sympathetic character in this whole thing. I'm sure he was abused as a child. Today I finally watched the video where he says "bring the butter" and the whole talk was so fine and not "demeaning and disrespectful to her" like ppl are saying. She never acted "humiliated" and I thought the talk was fine, and not disrespectful to her.

rosy said...

GeekRad said...
Will you please stop with the Christmas tree at the Blackburn house? As rosy points out, it was in the Elkhart church and posters changed the facts in a series of posts. Can we please stink to the facts?
December 6, 2015 at 6:51 PM

Hey,sorry about this, NO! I pointed out that the Christmas tree was in their home. And that Davey's father mentioned it in his sermon at his church after he returned to N Carolina.

I'm willing to agree that Amanda may have put up the tree early, before Thanksgiving. She and Davey were probably scheduled to celebrate Thanksgiving away from home with the family in Elkhart. If so, in their house there would be no clash of Christmas v Thanksgiving decorations.

GeekRad said...

Funny anon at 7:11😀. Not a Freudian slip, me not paying attention to the facts.. note to self, read all the comments before posting.

Anonymous said...

Me too! I need a break as well!

AnnaFranklin said...

Kind of heartbreaking to see the beautiful things Amanda did with her business. She gave that which was dead ... life. Did someone else give that which was alive ... death? Look at the love in these photos and how she features Weston:

http://www.pikore.com/weatheredwillow

Anonymous said...

Hi guys!! I called 911 numerous times- I take care of seniors. Everytime when I called, the emrgency personnel came as well as the police, regardless of what I said on the phone. I doubt that police did not show up there. I had a lady 103 yr old that passed away during the early morning, and when I called 911, i explained she passed away, there are no signs of life , and the police was too. So, Think about! Dianna

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Blackburn started with "speaking to my heart" but then he went to exact quotes.

It is to take the Isaiah 6:7 story and use it to his advantage with him being sent out to supra-historical events.

The "speaking to my heart" is to signal "I am not crazy hearing voices" but then he makes the mistake of using exact quotes. He claimed God told him that Amanda died to give life to his church.

You can try to package it anyway you wish, but the message was clear.

As to the vision, he quoted Ezekiel, and said that this is what he "saw" when he looked out upon them. This is a "vision" and they were "dry" and "dead."

The article is accurate. If one wishes to qualify that "speaking to my heart" is different than "speaking", it will not change the message, but once he moves to direct Q and A, I simply reported what he said.

If anyone wishes to believe this to be true, it is their own business. It is honest to simply say so, but to attempt to defend him by changing the classification of "how" this was said, is disingenuous.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Both made comments how they loved to play Christmas music and start decorating Nov 1st.

Anonymous said...

Oh my gosh, you guys!!! I just saw Davey at the grocery store and about had a heart attack!! I live north of the city, probably 20-30 min from his house, so I have NO idea what he's doing in this area. All I could think was, I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL EVERYONE AT SA!!!!! He did seem fairly loving to his son as he put him in the cart. And his sweaters must be ingrained in my brain b/c I saw that before anything else, which made me do a double take!

rosy said...

A Christmas tree is up in this pre-Thanksgiving photo from November 2013:

AmandaGrace ‏@AmandaGrace 16 Nov 2013
Sitting by the fire, reading and listening to Christmas tunes. #wonderfullife http://instagram.com/p/gyRazDr6ZL/

Christmas focus began that year on Nov 1:

AmandaGrace ‏@AmandaGrace 1 Nov 2013
November 1st. Christmas music, Christmas candle, Longs donuts. #tistheseason http://instagram.com/p/gLHfgyL6dd/


Sus said...

DB said,
"And I BELIEVE Ezekial spoke the gospel, of Jesus Christ, over, that valley of dry bones. The Bible doesn't indicate what he spoke and AND SO WE HAVE TO KINDA FILL IN THE BLANKS THERE..."

That says it all.

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are you talking about?
December 6, 2015 at 7:23 PM

Not sure you're talking at my post at 7:20 PM directly before yours, but if so--

I'm talking about his 2 day anger at Amanda over damage to his "Shekinah Glory Grill." I've lost the video link.

rosy said...

Sus said...
DB said,
"And I BELIEVE Ezekial spoke the gospel, of Jesus Christ, over, that valley of dry bones. The Bible doesn't indicate what he spoke and AND SO WE HAVE TO KINDA FILL IN THE BLANKS THERE..."
That says it all.
December 6, 2015 at 8:00 PM

This is the method of Christian reading reading of the "OT." He's been trained up in a particularly obnoxious version of it.

Anonymous said...

Here's the link to the video.

https://vimeo.com/120572218

And the transcript again:

Davey – talking about finding his grill face down on the patio:

“… and completely defaced it. Now I was ticked. I was, I was literal, I can’t remember another time in my life that I was that mad because I spent a lot on this grill. I mean this was a, this was the Chicano Glory grill. I mean, this was no just, little tiny, I’m like, and so she’s like, Dah, (claps hands) I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, and I was just like, Whatever…
Husbands, huh, free marriage advice. Don’t ever tell your wife whatever. OK, just, huh, that’s, (claps hands) that was free, huh…
I’m like, whatever, and I didn’t talk to her for a couple of days. She’s like Davey, I’m so sorry, (claps hands) I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry, and I was like, I can’t, and here’s why (claps hands) it was so painful. I still have that grill to this day, and every time I pull that grill out, I look at the front of the grill and it’s dented. It won’t even open up properly, you open up the thing and it’s like ku, ku, ku, right, and you’re like, ahhh, and you’re trying. Every time (claps hands) I get in front of that grill, every time I try to grill, go, grill out it reminds me of when somebody did something to me that hurt me. They put a dent in my life.

Now listen (claps hands), that’s my grill story. But I wonder, in here, how many of us, that’s our life story. I wonder how many of us, who would be honest. Now, I know you’re not used to being honest in church (makes face & sighs – time 8:19), but I wonder how many of us would say, hey man (claps hand), somebody did something to me, or somebody said something to me, that caused pain in my life and it dented me up, (time 8:32) and it hurt, and every time you think about that person, and every time you think about that situation, every time you look back on that, or you see the person at the grocery story, it reminds you of that pain. The feelings of that pain well up inside of you. And listen, I get it. There, there’s probably not one of us in here who have not been hurt at some point in our lives.

And I want, I want to talk about, like, like, legitimately, how do we get over that pain? This is not going to be one of those messages where it’s just like (angry coach voice? Time 9:09) “You gotta get over it. You shouldn’t feel that way.” Because, I mean (claps hands), seriously, it’s real. There are some of us in who (9:16), here who have experienced pain, that, like, if you were to, tell us the story we wouldn’t believe it, because it’s so unfathomable how much pain you’ve had to endure from other people.

But I believe (claps hands), I believe that Jesus Christ not only died on a cross but raised from the dead so that, listen, we could overcome that pain.”

Bobcat

Anonymous said...

Shekinah Glory Grill?? Oh my.

Bobcat

Sus said...

Rosy,
I do not understand. Are you saying DB is trained to say he speaks for God? That he can fill in for what is NOT said in the Buble?

GeekRad said...

So sorry rosy. I apologized twice and further commented on my stupidity another time. I personally apologize to you. Note to self, don't hurriedly try to catch up with hundreds of comments.please accept my apology rosy. I did exactly what I was calling others on.

Anonymous said...

DB was using the grill story to tell the true story of "senseless/accidental damage" that happens to all of us. I think it happened to him, in a big way, at a young age.

Anonymous said...

Narrowing it down here - I can't remember what placement means in SA. Davey says every time he is "in front" of the grill.

"Every time I get in front of that grill, every time I try to grill, go, grill out it reminds me of when somebody did something to me that hurt me. They put a dent in my life."

Bobcat

Anonymous said...

yeh bobcat, his words show that his damaged grill reminds him of a deeper pain.

Anonymous said...

...caused by someone's neglect/forgetfulness.

GeekRad said...

Ha! I noticed my dropped pronoun in my apology to rosy. And have applied SA. I think that I did not, at the start of my post, want to own up how serious my uninformed post was. Rosy was, to me, just a blogger I don't know. And I am just a blogger who is embarrassed about my mistake. I think I tried to minamalize my mistake. And then, the core of me came. The core being I respect people and know when I am wrong. What say you SA friends? Short statement and would love your SA input.

Anonymous said...

Damage my grill and I'll be so mad that I won't talk to you for a couple of days AND I'll be reminded of my pain every time I look at that grill. Thanks a lot for ruining my life! You haven't heard the last of this.

(But if you beat and murder my pregnant wife, well, oops, accidents happen. it's such a conundrum! I want to be angry but I choose forgiveness.)

Anonymous said...

That's crazy! So it was just the 2 of them?

Louise K said...

Amanda: "im so sorry Im so sorry im so sorry"<<<not speaking of wrecking the car or the smashing the boat into the pier, but a FEKKING GRILL.

What does this tell us about this marriage?

It mustve been HELL

Louise K said...

Geek Rad

I don't know what you did or said and I cant be bothered looking so I say

forget about it :D

Anonymous said...

Possibly a home group that meets on that side of town or perhaps there's a mega church with Sunday night services where he went to hijack the microphone?

Louise K said...


"Every time I get in front of that grill, every time I try to grill, go, grill out it reminds me of when somebody did something to me that hurt me. They put a dent in my life."

erm...this implies that he has another tantrum and has refused to grill since

"every time I TRY to grill"

You either grill or you don't Davey which is it

Is he soooo traumatized by the dented grill he can no longer stand to grill?

Or did he grill but use it as an opportunity to sulk for another two days, bitch about the grill, demand apologies about the grill, basically expect Amanda to Never Hear The End Of The Grill.

She asked for a divorce I betya - 7 years is the Breaking Year for many a marriage

She possibly also had some dirty knowledge on Davey

Being his wife and all

"I'll tell everyone about what you do to me and what you're really like"

"oh no you wont"

If she did tell folks it would ruin his reputation again

Put a dent in his life again

I think THIS is the dent he is alluding to

Amanda threatened to ruin his reputation by divorce - this could not be allowed AGAIN - he already lost his reputation once he was not going to have it challenged again by a mere woman especially one who is supposed to be his Left Hand.

Anonymous said...

hmmm... I smell troll. There is at least one very busy little troll who's not very smart possibly posting under different names.

Lets just think about what Anon@7:24 is saying.. watching the Q&A was THE instumental factor that caused "Anon" to sway an existing opinion to something far more favorable. That DB's interaction with Amanda caused him to start to see him as likeable and have sympathy towards him.
What does SA say about hyperbole?
Anon tells us "the WHOLE talk was SO fine" and then states again "the talk was fine" This makes me think "Anon" doesn't really believe what he/she is saying. The MO of a troll is take a position with the sole purpose of evoking heated response.

Louise K said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
hmmm... I smell troll. There is at least one very busy little troll who's not very smart possibly posting under different names.

Lets just think about what Anon@7:24 is saying.. watching the Q&A was THE instumental factor that caused "Anon" to sway an existing opinion to something far more favorable. That DB's interaction with Amanda caused him to start to see him as likeable and have sympathy towards him.
What does SA say about hyperbole?
Anon tells us "the WHOLE talk was SO fine" and then states again "the talk was fine" This makes me think "Anon" doesn't really believe what he/she is saying. The MO of a troll is take a position with the sole purpose of evoking heated response.

December 6, 2015 at 9:22 PM
**********************************************************************



IMHO y'all are trolls

posting without an ID

Also

OFF TOPIC

Kate said...

Davey is completey narcissistic so I don't understand why he refers to himself as Davey. Never Pastor Davey (or not that I've seen anyway), just Davey. He said the name has stuck with him all this time. Who can take a grown man who is suppose to be the Pastor of a church seriously with a kid name like Davey. People couldn't respect him or look up to him because he has no respect for himself and refused to grow up.

Bobcat said...

Kate
Davey's dad goes by Dave, so that's already taken. I've noticed that juvenile boy-man names are more common in the south. Davey has an uncle that goes by Eddy, a step-relative Robby...you get the picture.

Anonymous said...

Louise at 9:22, Just found this by googling "do people in Australia say y'all": (from a person in Western Australia)--


"I say You guys", I don't really ever hear people say "y'all" here.

G'day!

Anonymous said...

To be brief, Louise K in nearly everyone of her posts and nearly everything she says is right in tune with my thinking about Davey Blackburn and poor Amanda. You can add my name to hers' and you'd be right. Rosy also comes close to my thoughts, as do a couple of others. I can't add much more than they have already said.

I am SO sick of this man and his supposed, 'guessing at his mental problems' but never being quite sure what his disgusting problem is. His PAIN? I'm sick of hearing about that too. Any pain he has he caused himself since he reached the age of consent; he has never tried to help himself and has used his 'pain', which I question, to his advantage all of his rotten life and continues too. Jesus CHRIST, you don't let a damned grill destroy your mind. Poor Amanda. She lived lower than a dogs life with this fool.

The b'stard was a mean and hateful son uv a b'tch, and has no excuse for it; using anything and everything at his disposal to blame others for the shyt he doled out on whoever was at his disposal, in this case, poor Amanda; before this, his parents. But that's not enough, he even blames God for his warped crap, citing Ezekiel and other Bible prophets of old , even Jesus, that he uses to his advantage.

I tell ya, I am SICK of him. The son uv a b'tch needs to be stoned to death or shot between the eyes with a slingshot; in old biblical times he would have been.

Beyond all that, I am totally in line with Peter's analysis, no questions needed or asked. We have only to ask: "What are the odds?" Hell, there aren't any! ABB


P.S.. I am SO sorry about your cat, Louise. I know how much this hurts. It's been 23 years since I lost my precious Priscilla and I still miss and love her. I've had other kitties that I loved but she was so special, actually they all were, but she had my heart longer and the pain was deeper. I'm sorry Louise. ABB

Anonymous said...

I'm the person that posted that very confrontational response that included the snarky remark about Freudian slip. I apologize for that, it was altogether uncalled for. If I had seen your apologetic post before I hit publish, I definitely would have deleted the snarkiness. It is so fascinating what SA can reveal. I think you have a keen eye and I admire your self awareness and maturity.

Kate said...

Thanks Bobcat, but why would he leave his title of Pastor off? Is that common these days as well? Or more with the youth Pastors? I would just expect him to open up his service with "Good morning, I'm Pastor Davey" and it's really no big deal, just strikes me as odd.

Sus said...

Dianna,
It's in the probable cause document that the dispatcher sent only medical personnel. They then realized police were needed and called them. Police showed up as Amanda was being taken out the door to the hospital. Detectives spoke to DB at the hospital.

rosy said...

Sus said...
at 8:15 PM

He's trained to believe in the pre-existence of Jesus Christ. That's fairly conventional among Christians. Beyond that, it seems he takes all OT reference to "the Lord" as intervening in human life to refer to Jesus. In his Ezekiel piece, he takes this further still. English translations read "The hand of the LORD was on me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD...." For Davey, "the Spirit of the Lord" means Jesus.

I don't understand how he gets there. What's prominent is the notion that the Lord breathes (ruah - wind, breath, spirit) life into the bones just as at Creation. I guess Davey must believe Jesus breathed life there too, by speaking.

John says "In the beginning was the Word" (logos). Davey says, "I believe Ezekiel *spoke* the Gospel of Jesus Christ over that valley of bones. The Bible doesn't indicate what he spoke, and so we have to kind of fill in the blanks there, but I know there's only one truth that can bring life, and that's the light of life, that's Jesus ....."



Concerned said...

I've got a giant pot of soup of yummy chicken soup on the stove and
I wish you could all join me around the table for a bowl.
We could discuss the case and Statement Analysis like calm adults interested in the same subject.

We've seen some bickering here over the past weeks and it wastes all our time, don't you think?
Someone suggested we behave as though we were guests at Peters house, it being his blog and all.
What do you say we move on and not try to exact a pound of flesh from someone who makes a mistake?
I'm in!
Pass the cornbread.

Anonymous said...

nonymousDecember 6, 2015 at 7:58 PM
Oh my gosh, you guys!!! I just saw Davey at the grocery store and about had a heart attack!! I live north of the city, probably 20-30 min from his house, so I have NO idea what he's doing in this area. All I could think was, I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL EVERYONE AT SA!!!!! He did seem fairly loving to his son as he put him in the cart. And his sweaters must be ingrained in my brain b/c I saw that before anything else, which made me do a double take!


Is this by chance close to Northview Church? Someone posted on Resonate page that they prayed for their church this morning so perhaps DB decided to pay them a visit tonight.

Concerned said...

Kindly drop that "of soup", will ya'?

Anonymous said...

I have a funny story to share Concerned :-)
Yesterday I made a pineapple relish dip to take to a Chrisrmas party. I put the bowl with all the other appetizers and my friend asked me about my dip. I told her to try it because it wss so yummy. We both dipped a chip in and took a big bite when I suddenly realized I had grabbed the wrong bowl out of the fridge and had brought cold potato soup! We couldn't stop laughing.
I'll brig potato soup to our SA party!
BC

rosy said...

Concerned said...
@ 10:04

A pot luck supper on the internet. Sounds good.

Concerned said...

BC,
I love that story.
Freeze that potato soup and we'll have popsicles!

Rosy,
What are you bringing?

Somebody bring the Swisher Sweets and we'll invite Alonzo!

southerngal said...

I want the recipe for the pineapple relish. I'm a southern girl who loves dips (while we are hanging around here waiting on the Indy LE to maybe follow some leads?)!

Concerned said...

Anon at 10:06
You shoulda' asked Davey to our SA potluck.
He could have Grilled something!

Louise K said...

Hi ABB and thank you for your kind words about my furbaby - she truly was one in a million also.

Thank you for being right there with me - you can smell him too cantya? Old Satan in that light over there with that mic...

As far as an Aussie saying y'all, I guess I spend too much time on American boards so have kind of picked it up. It reminds me of my childhood "yous" as in "yous guys" sort of invented descriptor that somehow everyone understands.

I love the English language...btw...

Yes and I'd like some soup also and I've never had cornbread so some of that too please!

Re the boyish Davey - wouldn't it be more normal for him to be DJ, or David Jnr? Wouldn't it be more normal for Weston also to be a David?

As far as seeing DB in the grocery store - omgz are you kidding me? you mustve nearly died...just as well you're anonymous!

Concerned said...

southerngal,
I'm an ole Alabama girl and I'm about done with the spinach dip at all potlucks, aren't you?
It does look really cute in that round, carved-out bread though!

Louise K said...

Lol I was on another board when one of the posters saw a troll at the supermarket

wheeling his dad around in a wheelchair

he ran and hid with his dad wondering what the hell it was all about, left without his cigs

and another situation where the troll attended a court hearing

got approached

ran into the toilets and hid

its a small world :D

lol!

Anonymous said...

Southerngal It is actually super easy because I bought the relish from Harry & David and just mixed with cream cheese! It's called Charred Pineapple Pepper Relish I believe. I also made a really good Cranberry Jalepeno Salsa at Thanksgiving from a recipe on Allrecipes.
BC

Louise K said...

Yeah all you do is mix a jar of relish into a jar of cream cheese.

Super easy.

Concerned said...

Louise K,
Come on over!
Any girl who spells "Y'all" the right way is welcome.

What do youse guys have at all your potlucks..Kangaroo-Kabobs? (Sorry. Nothing like a cliche among friends.)

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to ask if anyone else has experienced anything like the grill falling off the deck? If the grill is how I imagine it, I can't see how it would just fall due to a gust of wind. I'm from SC and the wind there was not too bad and if it was a crazy windy day, that is something the news team would have reported. Also if anyone was home, wouldn't someone have heard it fall?

Also the fact that Amanda had to tell her husband she was moving it anyways seems a little odd to me. If she needed it moved, it seems like something he should have done for her.

It seems more likely that she moved it, later he saw that she didn't move it back for him. In a huff and a puff went to move it himself. He was so mad that he on accident knocked it off the back deck and then decided to blame her.

Either way, she was obviously sorry and it was an accident. To not talk to her for days is really crazy. I haven't had the best relationships in my life but I have never been with someone that wouldn't talk to me for two days because of something I did on accident and felt horrible about. I guess that is why his name is crazy davey. Poor girl

Louise K said...

Hehe yes at times

I've served roo many times

its actually very nice

you can also get emu/buffalo/kangaroo/crocodile kabobs at the local market

If you're of a mind to go fully bush tucker

There's bush tucker restaurants and you buy it in the supermarket also - relishes marinades and the like

A lot of native plants are similar to your regular plants but native to Aus

that we now eat on a mass scale.

But also we are deeply multicultural so have strong greek Italian Asian influences on our cuisine.

Lots of salad and seafood everything very fresh.

Anonymous said...

Everything is better with cream cheese! My fav is jalapeño jelly served over cream cheese.

So seriously never tried cornbread???
BC

Louise K said...

The weirdest thing about "i didn't talk to her for 2 days" is the idiot doesn't realize how ABUSIVE this is.

He actually records videos telling others how to drive their marriages, yet goes off in a toddler sulk and isolates his wife over basically, Nothing?

And he doesn't see the HUGE GAP between how HE behaves, and how he tells his congregation how to behave....??

That is some conceited thinking, right there. Conceited and hypocritical and No One including the great Davey himself, apparently even noticed!

Bizarre just - fucking weird

Louise K said...

Nope Ive never had cornbread

Never had a waffle

Never had a bunch of things you guys eat

like that sweet yam/marshmallow deal - I mean - ugh...

Louise K said...

One of my friends just went to the States

said the food was disgusting but for one thing

Chowder<<<<TO DIE FOR

southerngal said...

Thank you! If we can't get CD arrested by Christmas, we can at least exchange recipes! This is the most infuriating case!

GeekRad said...

Thank you Louise k. Anon at 7:48, I did not take your comment, directed at mine, not me, to be snarky. This is the essence of SA, read it and call it out. I applaud your attention to detail. That happened with me was posting to fast. It happens, hundreds of comments. Thank you for your interest!

Concerned said...

Anon at 10:26
Having grown up in the house with an angry maniac, I can tell you a little about this.
My father decided in advance when he wanted to blow up, knock things (and people) around and verbally abuse us.
Nothing new real had to happen to set him off; he could always find something.

I'm guessing, based on Davey's words, that he was secretly furious at Amanda about refusing him the kind of sex he wanted when he wanted it or some other grudge he was holding. Or he could have just been mad that she was in the way of some other woman/man he wanted to pursue.

And there's always the probability that he was just mad at life in general.
So the grill was the excuse and seeing the damage gave him permission to rage any time he wanted.

My father could use something as simple as running out of bread to take off and leave for weeks!
If only he had known how happy we were to see him go!!

I

Anonymous said...

You have to try the sweet potato casserole from Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. The recipe is online. It's like dessert!
BC

Concerned said...

BC at 10:41
I bet it's good but I try not to get filling side dishes at RC because I want to leave all my tummy room for the steak.
Best restaurant ever!

Louise K said...

im going to find this Ruth Chris Steakhouse recipe of which you speak

I love sweet potatoes and theyre good for you too

BTW I don't expect Davey will be caught by Christmas a lot depends on the dna testing that is predicted to take weeks if not months.

They mustve tested the heck outta that place

A lot mustve gone on in there

Yet allegedly no sexual assault...so what WERE they doing...

Louise K said...

Dear Google

can you just give us fucking numbers instead of goddam grass and palm trees

it would make life a lot easier

Thanks

Pissed off user who (apparently) doesn't know what a fekkn waterfall looks like

Louise K said...

canned sweet potato :O

GeekRad said...

You crack me up Louise. Even though I live in the desert I apparently can't identify a cactus from those poor quality photos.

Louise K said...

I know right

some of us are a bit long of tooth

and those tiny blotches are nothing more than tiny squares of indecipherable sheer torture

WTF is that a cactus or a what

I fail the street sign ones especially

and I think its Google that screws it up not me....:D

Louise K said...

is someone having a lol because I just got "click the bowls of soup" and im not even kidding

GeekRad said...

Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all and to all a good night ( and morning to all our international friends)

Anonymous said...

I'm not a robot, but...

Our grill has blown clear across our deck before, in high winds, but, we have rails. Since grills are on wheels, and the deck can be aligned parallel on the wooden slats/boards of the deck, wind can evidently just roll it along, as if on train tracks.

I agree with others that DB's language when discussing being positioned in front of the grill, "trying to grill," dwelling on the grill reminding him of other painful times in life (yes, his high school lie and alienation comes to mind), using the dented grill as symbolism for pain in life, and, most absurdly, not talking to Amanda for two days (and, yes, an extended silent treatment is extremely passive aggressive and a form of abuse), announcing this hurt to the world and blaming Amand, and obviously still unable to let it go...indicates a very troubled person with serious unresolved issues. I wouldn't have been able to last a week in that marriage, if even a day.

-L

Anonymous said...

I'm sleepy. Correction:

* Since grills are on wheels and, and the *grill* (not deck) ca be aligned parallel to the wooden slats...

-L

CJ said...

It looks like Kaleb White preached again today at ResonateIndy.

BTW, check out the repetition in tweets over the last few days advertising T-shirts for sale and soliciting stories about Amanda.

https://twitter.com/resonateindy

OPN said...

Narcissist Davey's expensive grill was tied to his self esteem. When the grill was damaged, it became a narcissistic injury. Rages always follow narcissistic injury. Davey didn't talk to Amanda for two days and, because he's a narcissist, when he started talking to her, he treated her with severe contempt. Poor Amanda. She had to tiptoe around Davey 24/7.

Kate said...

I don't understand how he can rationalize being pissed off for two days. It was her grill too, did he think she did it intentionally? Did he think she wanted a scratched up and dented grill? Did he think she wanted to put up with the wrath of Davey over it? I'm sure she did every single thing she could possibly do to avoid any confrontation with him. On an earlier "sermon" he talks about when they first moved to Indy and how he came home day one and Amanda had everything set up in the home. Ever see sleeping with the enemy?

Good to know he's terrified of mice, won't even take the mouse trap out of the wrapper. Another failure at protecting his family. What a catch.

Sus said...

Thanks for explaining, Rosy. What I hear from DB is:

"The Bible doesn't indicate what he spoke, and so we have to kind of fill in the blanks here..."

Don't interpret his words. Only listen to what he says.
-Before this he told us Ezekial spoke
-Now he tells us there is nothing in the Bible saying what he spoke.
-Importantly, this is in action form. The Bible (doesn't) indicate. DB lays the
responsibility square on the Bible.
-AND SO means that whatever DB is about to say is important to him. He wants it known.
-This is what he wants us to know because the Bible didn't tell us -
WE KIND OF HAVE TO FILL IN THE BLANKS HERE. He is setting himself up to fill in the
parts the Bible didn't tell us.
-Either the WE is God and he, or he assumes all agree with him. I don't know.

DB is a narcissist to the nth degree and suffering from delusions. He's going to crack soon.

Concerned said...

"All I can do is pray for mine . This world is a dirty mfcka . The streets don't love nobody and these days ya main man could be the main one plotting on you . Smh , & the police against em too 😔 I beg God to keep his arms around Lonzo "
Posted by Donae Mitchell, Alonzo Bull's wife on Facebook back in April

This was months before Amanda's death.
It's sad to see a 17 year old mother caught up in this world, isn't it?

But I think we can see her fascination with Alonzo, (in spite of him being her baby's father), will diminish one day, probably sooner rather than later.
Probably then LE will hear the truth about the Blackburn murder. I still think he was in charge that night. And I think Donae is on LE's radar now.

Sus said...

Kate,
He's not rationalizing it. He's not rational. Notice he didn't even mind telling he'd done it. Ignoring is a common emotional abuse strategy. The silent treatment leaves the other party feeling confused and wanting to reconcile. You heard him say how Amanda repeatedly said she was sorry. It sounded like an accident. Do any of us besides DB really think Amanda tried to cause him great harm?

Concerned said...

Sus at 12:15
Amanda didn't need to do a thing.

But I do believe Weston's death may have helped her re-think what she was willing to tolerate.
Sometimes a mother will rise up and fight for the first time when her child is mistreated.
I think Amanda did.


"Narcissists will invoke the silent treatment upon a partner for days, weeks, and even longer, often with no explanation, as a way to control and demoralize their victim. Narcissists are fond of using the Silent Treatment as a cruel (but not unusual) punishment for doing nothing wrong at all and, from experience, I can tell you that the affect of this method of control is sheer torture."

from the NarcissisticPersonality.com

BallBounces said...

Peter Hyatt said...
Blackburn started with "speaking to my heart" but then he went to exact quotes. It is to take the Isaiah 6:7 story and use it to his advantage with him being sent out to supra-historical events.

* * *

Peter, As I said previously, I found DB's message false and the way he used Amanda's death appalling.

But where do you get Isaiah 6:7 from in DB's message? He doesn't mention Isaiah. He doesn't speak of seeing a vision of the Lord as Isaiah did; he doesn't speak of being transported into heaven or seeing the Lord on his throne; he doesn't speak of confessing his sins and being cleansed by a coal of fire as Isaiah did; he doesn't speak of the Lord saying "who shall I send" with him replying "here I am, send me".

You say DB plagiarized the Isaiah call and "used it to his advantage". Where's the evidence for this? And why Isaiah's call and not, e.g., Jeremiah's call, which includes a Q and A?

Louise K said...

Re: Davey in the supermarket with Weston

He doesn't NEED to be in any supermarket

Let alone with Weston; but apparently he neeeeeeeds to be in the supermarket, alone with Weston

(he has a million willing Christian ladies just waiting to eat that all up including Shopping for Pastor)

On display as the Recently Widowed Hunk of Burning Pastor Struggling As Best He Can

Its a miracle he hasn't called the paps...or has he...

Louise K said...

God the arrogance and ego is amazing


he needs CONSTANT adoration

Hes like a gaping hole where a Pastor should be

Louise K said...

Sus

exactly

its so disturbing how he just normalizes it too...

like, heck yeah she pissed me off

(again)<<<subtext

rosy said...

Sus said..
@December 7, 2015 at 12:04 AM
DB is a narcissist to the nth degree and suffering from delusions. He's going to crack soon.

Yes. He was already on this tear, or working up to it, before Amanda was killed.

He misjudged reality in his Shoot Your Worries and Love Song videos. He over-asserted his own reality in his train station videos. In his FOL's church, he was close to losing touch with reality. He needed everyone to rivet their eyes on him. He seemed unnaturally calm and intent on elevating himself alone above everyone else in the assembly at that church.

Anonymous said...

Concerned @ 12:23--do you mean Weston's birth?

Louise K said...

Personally I doubt DB is any threat at all to Weston

Weston wasn't his problem



Skittles said...

Girasol 2:18... well-said and ditto.

amj said...

Something that's been bugging me about the timeline... They are estimating the time of the shooting based on the neighbor who supposedly heard gun shots and a scream. 6am in November in Indiana is definitely not window open weather. So presumably they heard all that through the Blackburns closed windows and their own closed windows. Someone said Weston was in his crib crying and the dog was either in the garage and/or a kennel when DB got home. How is it possible they didn't also hear Weston crying or the dog barking? Furthermore, how is it possible DB didn't hear any of that while he was sitting in the driveway for nearly an hour? It's almost impossible to think Weston slept through all that. There's no way.

Another thought... Why the heck would Taylor say he was going to kill AB if the other 2 didn't come back and get him if he had already shot her? The more I think about it, I wonder if maybe Watson/Gordon/Bull really did set Taylor up to take the fall for it. Maybe they knew about his about his indecent exposure charge and that's why they staged the rape scene?

OPN said...

The grill lid replacement part was likely under $70, but he didn't replace it even though he says it made him mad for years. It became an emotional weapon to use against Amanda.
http://www.charbroil.com/parts/index/index/?model=463343015

Giving a sermon on the emotional pain he suffered because his grill was dented was absurd. If Davey wasn't a narcissist, his pain would have been minuscule compared to emotional pain many in his audience have experienced. Davey's narcissism makes it impossible for him to relate to others' suffering. He can't identify this deficit, so he can't hide it. This unhidden deficit is another reason he will fail at church planting.

Anonymous said...

Crazy Davey is soliciting stories about Amanda from others for one reason only; so that he has a collection of warm, genuine and heartfelt memories that he can trot out as anecdotes when asked "what was Amanda like?"

His own recollections are cold, lifeless and involve Amanda only as far as they relate to him. Sneaky sociopath.

amj said...

One more thing... I watched a Dateline this weekend about Raven Aberoa who came home from playing soccer to find his PREGNANT wife murdered and their son in his crib. There was also something about a staged burglary next door, too. The 911 call was unbelievable. It took LE a few years to get Aberoa though. I can't wait to find out all the missing details in Amanda's case. I hope she doesn't have to wait too long for justice.

The Beckster said...

Like many others, I am not addicted to this site. I don't post often but I read everything on here. Here are some of my meandering thoughts and questions the last 24 hours: (Feel free to scroll on past because this is just me needing to get all these crazy thoughts out of my head)--

1) Grill sermon is CRAY CRAY. I've been married for 8 years, my husband and I were together for five years before that. After a couple years of dating, I crashed his car (another car ran into me). His brand new, super nice car. That he jokingly told me "don't crash this now please!". I had borrowed it because my own car was in the shop. I remember being so afraid of how mad he would be. And when he came and saw the damage you know what he did? He hugged me. He knew I was okay. He wasn't hugging me because he had thought I was injured or hurt. He just wanted to make sure I KNEW he wasn't mad. Of course, he was totally bummed about his car and he didn't pretend not to be. But never for second did he blame it on me or get resentful. So, I know everyone is different and some people get angry at their spouses / significant others for things like a dented grill ( I guess ) but NOT TALKING TO THEM FOR TWO DAYS?? In his fake-o video about men "leading" he says you have to study your wife's heart and even be willing to die for her. Okay. But you are such a man that you have to sulk for TWO days over a dented grill? He just constantly shows his hypocrisy, like, at all times.

2) He seems to HATE listening to other people. Especially Amanda. He is practically chewing off his pursed lips to get "his turn" to talk in every single video. He does not care to listen to Amanda at all, ever. There are two specific times on video where this is abundantly clear.

First -- In the Love Song (vomit in my mouth) video (the excruciatingly long one) she seems to infer that he is just listening to her during date-night in order to butter her up for sex later. (I know I know the butter comment Last Tango in Paris - yuck - I get it). So anyway, that was the first AH HA moment for me that she is WELL AWARE that he is not sincere in listening to her (or studying her heart as he claims to be in a later video). She also says in that video that 'this will keep happening' when he interrupts her mid sentence.

Second -- He makes a comment about, how, when "studying your wife's heart" during the WIVES SHOULD BE SUBMISSIVE train station video, you should really listen to her. Which, he admits, he understands (guys out there) that this is REALLY HARD because believe him he KNOWS how much women like to talk on and on and on. Basically saying, I hate listening to Amanda talk but I do it so that I can then claim to know her heat well enough to lead her in my oh so godly way.

I just had to write about that because I am sick of thinking about it.

3) Questions:

-What do the other commenters on here do? Is anyone in Law Enforcement or Social Services? I work as a teacher. And I have two young kids. PLENTY to do all day but yet obsessed with this case like I'm investigating it for a living. There seriously needs to be a break in this case so we can all move on a bit.

-Does anyone go to other sites to find up to date information on this case? I google it and nothing but sympathy for Davey comes up. There don't seem to be ANY reports that indicate suspicion,

-People who live in Indy -- are people talking about this case? Do people seem suspicious?

Okay thanks for indulging my rants and random questions everyone!

The Beckster said...

HAHAHAHA Statement Analysis just proved me to be deceptive. I should have written I AM addicted to this site. WTF?? I can't believe I wrote the opposite, lol. What does that mean?

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
Davey is soliciting stories about Amanda ....
December 7, 2015 at 1:24 AM

At least one person following him on Twitter identifies herself as a ghost writer. Look for a book, "By Davey Blackburn with XYZ." How much of it will be about Amanda? A decent ghost writer will make sure it does include her.

Sus said...

Ok, Beckster, you just seriously cracked me up. I mean I am laughing out loud.

In answer to one of your questions. I am a retired teacher of behavior disordered / emotionally disturbed adolescents. If I weren't retired, I would have to right now to follow this case. :-)

rosy said...

BallBounces said...
at 6.01 PM

Thank you for transcribing Davey's Ezekiel sermon.

rosy said...

The Beckster said...
at 1:28 AM

further to "I'll bring the butter" - searching, I see there is a product, on sale at well-known online stores, "Sex Butter Organic Personal Lubricant." So maybe DB's allusion doesn't reach back as far as Marlon Brando in Paris. "Made from all organic plant based (vegan) oils" This product is sold for vag*nal purposes. Outrageous price.

I still think that the remarks he sent over Amanda's head, with a side wink at his audience, are meant to be indecent. And this really odd coming from a pastor.

rdk said...

What was he buying? And wasn't it a little late to have a toddler out, so far from home? Whatever became of his babysitter (former intern)?

Juliet said...

http://www.heysigmund.com/the-silent-treatment/

The Surprising Truth About the Silent Treatment

(It's not surprising.)

---

Davey shopping with Weston - it's all about the image. Ten minutes round the supermarket, plenty of viewers, witnesses to his hands-on parenting, more chat-stops than shopping, drive home, unload baby to babysitter, grandparents, or whoever, till the next public appearance.
Well, I wouldn't be surprised, and it would be preferable to him spending lots of time inflicting Babywise 'wisdom' on the poor baby.

Cyndi said...


I wish commentators would refrain from using profane language.

Intelligent observations may be made without resorting to obscene and vulgar phraseology.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

You'll want to cook fresh for the recipe. BC

Anonymous said...

Cyndi, I can take anything but the g-d word. I'm guilty myself, it is so easy to slip into slang language, even tho the Bible does caution us to put all perverseness away from us, and warns us that every idle word will be brought into the judgment.

I can laugh about the F word in general conversation, and frequently even say it myself; but I really hate the F word when it is used in my own home. F this, and F that, and F you, and F yourself, it gets VERY disgusting when one can't even seem to carry on an intelligent conversation without the F word; and yes there are better and more intelligent words one could find to use. I came to hate it so much that I tried to break the F word habit myself, and did for the most part.

However, the g-d word stops me dead in my tracks because it is to curse God and God is not damned. This is not cute. I HATE this. HE is the one we will have to face. I shudder to think of it. Now THAT's where I draw the line. But lots a luck telling others how they should and should not speak. It ain't gonna work. I've tried; alls you can do is just pay attention to your own language. ABB

Ali said...

The Raven Aberoa case is interesting. Particularly the 911 call. I highly recommend looking at Peters analysis on this site.

It made me think about CDs 911 call. The fake ones were funny but I want to apply some SA principles and think about the expected. It might interesting to compare with the actual 911 call, if we ever get to see it.

If he is guilty, I would expect:

A greeting - hi or hello
Alibi building - I just walked in
Request for help for himself (and not Amanda) - please help me
Invoke deity - God help me, Jesus
Introduction of self by name without being asked - my name is Davey Blackburn
Incomplete introduction of Amanda - my wife
Incomplete or inaccurate description of Amanda's injuries - she looks like she fell, she hit her head or something
Failure to address Amanda - (Can you hear me? Amanda!)
Subtle disparagement of victim - she must have knocked this ladder over, there's a ladder on the floor
Weston left unattended at beginning of call - my baby is upstairs
Absence of fear an intruder may be in the house - (see above)
Delaying tactics - I have to get my baby, he's crying
Feigned distraction comforting Weston/can't hear operator - it's alright, shh, shh...what?
Irrelevant information - the door was open, there's a Swisher Sweets Packet on the bench
Mention of doors and/or lights and or water - the door was open, all the light are on/off, she must have come out of the shower
The word sorry for any reason - sorry I can't hear you
Stammering, especially on the pronoun "I" I...I...I....I
Politeness. "Thank you, yes ma'am, please"

What did I leave out? Is there anything on the list of "expected" that shouldn't be there?

Cyndi said...

ABB,

Thanks for your observations. I appreciate it!

D said...

Have we heard about when the last time Amanda was seen? What did they do the day before? DB has some anger issues, who gets that upset over a grill.

Anonymous said...

Good observations Ali. Wow. You're better at this than I am! ABB

Anonymous said...

D, only a fool. No real Christian does. And certainly not a minister of the gospel, or pastor of a church. His damned grill meant more to him than heaven and earth, like he might never get another one; not that he ever did any actual "work" to earn that one. When did he ever have a real paying job? It was purchased with money grifted from scammed church donors, wasn't it? So let'im grift another one.

He puts on a horrible show of the divine and pure teachings of Jesus; that is to say, NONE. He forgets, or ignores, or never read the scripture: From the teachings of Jesus, the one we're supposed to be following: "Lay not up thy treasures on earth where moths and rust doth corrupt and thieves break in to steal. Lay up thine treasures in heaven...." Or words to this effect (I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but you know the one).

AND, since his damned grill meant so much to him he should have been out there moving it himself, or should have left it securely positioned where he wanted it in the first place, since it WAS his grill and he WAS the one who used the grill. So this really makes it HIS fault that his stupid grill fell off the deck and got dented. Serves him right! The b'stard.

Unfortunately, Amanda is the one who paid for it for the rest of her horrible marriage to him and his anal buttered up sex that publically hinted at and forced on Amanda. Poor girl. He sickens me. He is a despicable human being guised as a man and a minister of the gospel, a leader and a pastor.

Actually, now that you mention it, I don't think anyone has mentioned when was the last time Amanda was seen or spoken too? Good question. ABB

Anonymous said...

Davey has no business raising this baby! Actually, he shouldn't even be allowed around that child other than under supervised visitation. He is dangerous and he is evil. Even if by some stroke of a miracle (on his part) that he had nothing to do with her murder, which I don't believe for one second, just LOOK at the way he treated Amanda, his own wife that he was responsible to love, cherish and care for, til death do us part; with her helpless to however he treated her which was BAD. I'd lay money on it that this poor baby is already scared to death of him.

Would he treat a helpless child any better than he treated Amanda? Oh my God no. He would treat the helpless innocent defenseless child even worse. God help that child! The child can't pick up and run, or tell anyone without fear of being slapped around. Amanda could at least walk out the door occasionally and breathe in some fresh air away from his dominating domineering presence, AND threats, which I doubt was very often. And should he remarry or have a live-in roomie; the child will ALSO be at the mercy of his replacement bed partner who will pick up on HIS ques as to how she (OR he!) treats this poor baby. This baby doesn't stand a chance at Davey's mercy.

Meanwhile, neither sets of grandparents will be paying one speck of attention to this poor and tragic baby, looking straight ahead and worshiping their wonderful Davey as usual; just like they didn't pay any attention to the way he treated hopeless Amanda right up to the moment HE killed her or made sure somebody else did; and STILL aren't paying any attention to the signs all around them.

These silly, simple-minded air heads don't even live in the real world. These people live in a dream world of butterfly kisses and don't want to be awakened. To those who think Amanda's parents are just biding their time, silently waiting and looking underneath the covers? You have GOT to be kidding! ABB

Juliet said...

ABB - Davey is or was a substitute teacher, which supplemented the pastoring, I believe - can't check the dates now, as I am on my iPad so it's difficult to get any of the links, but I think he taught in Indy, still might.

You can bet it was Amanda's grill when it came to cleaning it. :-/. Does anyone know why was she moving it, anyway. - I missed that.

D said...

I agree with the world you described ABB. I am shocked over how they can forgive so quickly. I wish the anon would of gone up to DB and ask him how he was. I am sure the anon didn't have a hour or more to listen to him talk and preach.

D said...

Amandas fb pages says remembering Amanda Grace Blackburn. Is that what happens when someone passes away? I have friends that are gone too, and that is not on their page.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I believe you're right Juliet; now that I remember it, he was doing some substitute teaching. Okay, so I'll give him that, but how much substitute teaching, how often and how much did he actually earn? $150, $250, $300 a week? Or less? Substitute teaching is not a sure thing and only happens infrequently, unless a teacher goes out on extended leave. It would be interesting to know how much he actually earned from this. It probably wasn't even enough to make the mortgage payment.

I've known of several ministers who had a small flock of followers and no full time requirements being laid on them, like weddings, funerals, (professional!) counseling services, ad-hoc committees they sponsored and many other daily church activities; where these pastors had full time jobs for years before they grew to being able to live off their church income. Davey was in no such position.

I consider Davey Blackburn basically a free loader. He didn't actually have a church facility with a dependable membership. He had worked himself up to renting space in a school auditorium for (once?) weekly services, growing to approx. 120 warm bodies with no guarantee of any stable amount of donations and/or tithes coming in consistently. He had NOTHING he could depend on. And certainly no credit worthiness/borrowing power. He couldn't have walked into a bank and gotten a loan if his life depended on it because he had no stable dependable income.

For an able bodied man, fully physically cable of getting a full time paying job, earning a living wage, this is nothing; not even dependable groceries and utilities after paying the school rent for his little bitty congregation. And credit cards? Guarantee you he was maxed out. Yes, he IS a freeloader and not even a good one. Poor Amanda had all this heavy weight on her mind too; her fault, of course. ABB

D said...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/02/12/facebook_legacy_contact_who_manages_account_when_you_die.html

Answered my own question... This wouldn't be on my mind if my husband died unexpectedly, especially from murder.

Concerned said...

Anon at 12:51
Thanks. I did mean Weston's birth, not death.
It was late and I fell asleep right after that...Thank goodness!!

Anonymous said...

D, I do not know who is posting on Amanda's face book pages, anyone is free to post there as long as they are kept open; but I do know that it is hard to close out one after the holder of the face book page passes away.

My son had more than one face book page, several email addresses and several web sites when he passed away. He had changed his password several times and I no longer knew what it was at the time of his death so now I can't even get into his email, not knowing the password, so there is no way I can get into his email or cancel those email addresses..

Now get this, his girlfriend at the time he passed away opened up another face book page where she has invited only certain ones to post, but blocked me so that I cannot even read it. Now how she did this I do not know unless she opened it in her own name, however I have seen the logo of the page and it is in HIS name, using some of his photography. The b'tch. I had really liked her and always spoke up for her, but now this? My son had wanted to drop her and I had talked him out of it, now I am SOO sorry. There ya go, lesson learned, too late now.

The websites will drop off on their own when the maintenance fees are not kept up.

As far as the face book pages he set up, I can have those cancelled but it is not easy to do. I am his closest adult living relative, his daughter is a minor and he had no wife. It is up to me to do it. I would have to submit his death certificate with a formal request stipulating my reasons for closing it and etc etc etc. I don't want to do it because this is the only place I have to go to, to see his beautiful work and talk to some of his friends. There is no way I can bring myself to delete it.

He had hundreds of friends going all the way back to his childhood, many of them I knew, and many more he had over the years, plus former clients who adored him, and many of them still post their condolences, talk about their visits to his gravesite where they leave trinkets, and still meet up for cocktails to celebrate his life and so on. It's all I have left of his beautiful life and I just can't delete it.

As for Amanda's face book pages, Davey is the one who would have to have it (or them) closed down as he was her husband at the time of her death. However, he can't just go into it and close it down. This is very hard to do, but he could do it if he wanted too. If you find it closed, it will be Davey who did it. ABB

Anonymous said...

D, they can forgive so quickly because they don't think they have anything to forgive. IMO, It has never even entered their simple minds. Like I said, they aren't even living in the real world, and this has nothing to do with their being Christian or minister/pastors, although this could play into their total lack of concern for Amanda's horrible marriage and her tragic murder.

They have their head buried in the sand like and ostrich and glad to do it. They see no evil, think no evil, speak no evil. They live in a fools paradise. IMO, they will be no help whatsoever in investigating or prosecuting Davey. "For what?"

Davey's father did not learn his lesson when Davey tore the family apart and forced them to be uprooted when Davey caused him to have to give up his lovely church and home and start all over when he was in high school, or all those other times he ran headstrong all over him that we don't even know about;

nor did Amanda's father learn any lesson, and won't, when they were so happy and relieved that she had married a minister, glory be and by golly the son of another minister/pastor, could they ever have hit upon such luck, which is every minister/parent's dream for their single daughter; never paying the slightest attention to how he was treating her and they don't want to hear it now either. She made them proud and that's that, and the best is yet to come. ABB

Anonymous said...

Yes, once a person passes away, their Facebook page becomes a Memorial page for them. Unless a family member has their FB password, it cannot be changed or altered in any way. It remains as a Memorial page, with friends/family still able to post on it.

Anonymous said...

Fact check: Davey graduated from the same high school where he told that lie in 11th grade. His dad's new position was only 45 minutes from the city where Davey went to high school.

Anonymous said...

Anon @10:10, you are slightly wrong. The face book page only becomes a memorial page if someone posts on it that the person has passed away, but in effect, the face book page goes on just as it was before as if the holder of it was still posting there himself/herself, with anyone posting there however they see fit.

To close it using the holders password requires the holder closing it himself/herself; otherwise, closing it has nothing to do with having the holder's password. If this were true, anyone could run around closing out the face book pages of anyone whose password they had possession of. Husbands/boyfriends, wives/girlfriends, anyone who gets PO'ed could shut down your face book. It doesn't work this way. It least, this certainly is the way it was presented to me.

It takes submitting the holders death certificate with a formal request and verified, to be able to close out the former (deceased) holders face book. I know. I had it looked into. ABB

Anonymous said...

Anon @10:14, there as been a lot of controversy on some of these pages pertaining to Davey graduating from his old high school vs transferring to a new high school. I don't know where to tell you to check it out, but there have been posts made here, with links, that showed he graduated from the new school he transferred too, from Birmingham, Al to Tuscaloosa, Al. Now, where those links are I cannot tell you. I don't keep links or repost them. ABB

Anonymous said...

I am the one who saw him at the store and I can't stop thinking about it. I think there are way too many "coincidences" with this case and have been checking back here every two minutes to see if there is new information. However, seeing him has really gotten to me, and maybe I'm way off, but I feel the need to defend him a tiny bit because he has been ripped apart on here. I was seriously shocked to see him and had so many thoughts as to what kind of stunt he was going to pull, but he was in and he was out. I saw him talk to no one but the cashier, and he was very polite. He drew no attention to himself and acted like a completely normal, loving father to his son. (It wasn't that late and I was there with my toddler too.) And in fact, I got the impression that he was worn out. Just the way he walked out seemed very, defeated. I would have never even noticed him if I wasn't OBSESSED with this case! I find his interviews and sermons to be a bit sickening and blasphemous at times, but I'm afraid we have taken it a bit too far sometimes on here. Especially if he really is innocent. No, he's definitely not perfect and maybe he did treat Amanda poorly, but that's a far cry from killer. I don't know, my husband thinks I'm the crazy one that this is affecting me so much, but it just is. I am NOT a troll, just someone feeling convicted over some of the thoughts I've had about him.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate that. Seeing someone in real life reinforces the point he is a human person.

I am intrigued by this case because the distortion of the Christian message is deeply troubling. Also, I think it is easier for me to focus on one case like this than on all the turmoil going on in our country and world.

That said, I do think he is guilty of something. But like you, I do not see the benefit of making outlandish claims that go far beyond the scope of what happened that morning.

I am praying that LE is taking a hard look at DB's involvement, if any.

Canada

Anonymous said...

10:45 I know you meant "conflicted", last sentence. It's interesting your impressions of DB in person. That's the feeling I get watching his videos - that in person he would be pleasant, polite, nice, normal. And that's interesting what you picked up from his exit from the store..."worn out" and "defeated".

Anonymous said...

Forgive me if already posted,
But someone on the Justice For Amanda Blackburn page posted this comment from LE concerning the crime. I think it is very interesting
https://www.facebook.com/Jutice4AmandaBlackburn/

"Could the robbery spree that culminated in Blackburn's murder also be a gang crime, perhaps even an initiation?

When asked Monday, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Sgt. Kendale Adams emphatically said no.

"Gangs are fluid," Adams said. "There was no known gang activity connected to this particular crime."

MzOpinion8d said...

Just for comparison purposes, here is the statement by Tiffany Thornton, whose husband Chris Carney was killed in a car accident Friday.

'There are so many things I want you to know about Chris but most importantly you must know how earnestly he pursued the Lord, especially in the past year.

'No one is perfect in this world and we all have our battles but it's the way we get back on our feet and turn it around that really counts. And he did it. He was so on fire for God and I know he flew straight into the arms of Jesus, his best friend.

'Please if you're reading this know that Chris would want you to know the Lord. Don't wait to run back to God. Our days are numbered and God is just waiting for you to come back to him.

'There is so much power in the redemption God gives us and I am so grateful that Chris and I got to fall in love all over again this past year.

'He was on such an amazing path for the Kingdom, having just gone on a mission trip to Peru with his dad where he shared his beautiful testimony and brought so many people to the Lord.

'He finished writing, directing, producing and editing his first Christian film and he and I got to star in it together as love interests who end up getting married.

'He was THE BEST father my children could ever have, an incredibly loving and sensitive husband, a wonderful brother and amazing son.

'He is already so dearly missed but I promise to spend the rest of my life sharing his testimony so that those who feel they have no place or have come from a place of struggle can learn that the love of the Lord can save us all.

'We will have a service in remembrance of him Monday, December 7th at 3pm and First Church of the Nazarene here in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Visitation will begin at 1:30pm.

'Thank you for your continued prayers for our family as we grieve the loss of my best friend Chris, the most incredible person I've ever had the blessing of knowing.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3348529/Tiffany-Thornton-s-husband-Chris-Carney-seen-slamming-shots-fatal-car-crash.html#ixzz3tePX1x2M
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Anonymous said...

Anon @10:45, perhaps I am wrong but I thought you left a post up there somewhere that Davy was having pleasant conversations with people, and etc., but since I can't find it now I must have been wrong.

However, in response to your comments above, I think we all have a sense of compassion on here when we see someone who has been wronged, but in light of the way we KNOW Davey treated Amanda, both in his sermons, videos they made together and in his own insulting and humiliating words to and about her, not to mention all the "odds are against it" in the many MANY coincidences in her murder, and not foregoing his blasphemy and butchering of the Holy Word, ultimately placing himself right up there on high with God;

some of us, LIKE ME can't find one word of compassion for him. Not one. He treated Amanda "POORLY"? Are you serious? He destroyed Amanda. He was "worn out", he "seemed defeatd?" Well, praise God for at least that much weight he has to carry, IF that's even true. Davey Blackburn is all about HIM, whatever he portrays is what he wants you to see. "Whatever it takes."

Sorry you are becoming exhausted with this case, I understand that, and wish you well, but there is more than likely a long long way to go before anything is ever resolved in Amanda's gruesome murder and maybe never as it concerns Davey. ABB

MzOpinion8d said...

RE: Facebook and deaths

On a PC/Laptop, if you go to "Settings" and then "Security", there's an option for "Legacy Contact". Description from FB "A legacy contact is someone you choose to manage your account after you pass away. They'll be able to do things like pin a post on your Timeline, respond to new friend requests, and update your profile picture. They won't post as you or see your messages."

I think this is a really nice feature for FB to have.

Cyndi said...

911: What's your emergency?

Hey, this is Davey Blackburn, you know lead pastor at Resonate Church here in Indy..Well, I was at LA fitness this morning, you know, from about 6:15 to 7:20, and anyway I come home all pumped up and everything, and I find my ministry partner lying on the floor. Her name's Amanda, and I think she has some kind of a head wound or something. I'm really baffled as to what could have happened to her. She likely fell off the ladder putting up the Christmas tree, 'cause, you know, she's not well-read or well-bred or whatever. Well, I'm going to shepherd little Weston downstairs right now and let the Lord minister to my heart.

If you can come over and solve this conundrum for me, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks and sorry for the trouble.

Anonymous said...

It IS a nice feature MzOipnion @11:19, but the individual has to know they are going to pass away, or plan for the day they might. My son didn't, nor did Amanda.

BTW, that is a beautiful, beautifully written and touching lifes' memorial from a wife to her husband. Now this is the way it ought to be when a pastor/husband loses his lifes' partner and spouse, the mother of his child and one soon to be.

I just cannot imagine that Davey could not find any of these same glorious words for Amanda. It is troubling and heart breaking that Amanda's life AND DEATH mattered so little to those who were supposed to have loved and cherished her. ABB

Anonymous said...

Love it Cyndi @11:31! It probably did go something very much like that!! Will we ever know, though? You're guess is as good as mine. Something or 'somebody' is keeping everything under wraps and carefully parsing their words. I don't like it either, it sort of smells rotting cheese in Denmark to me. Not good. ABB

Anonymous said...

I meant "your".... ABB

Anonymous said...

ABB, I live here. I know people that know him. As of a week or so ago, they still fully supported Davey. Not only did I have a bit of compassion upon seeing him, I also take our mutual friends into account. I fully trust the judgement of our mutual friends, despite my thoughts on the case.

Saying he "destroyed Amanda" is what I'm talking about when I say he is getting ripped apart on here. That is a major statement to make when you actually have no idea. I agree that she seemed pretty annoyed with him, but that doesn't mean he was destroying her! I simply stated what I saw and it was not the grandiose Davey I expected.

M said...

Anon on 12/6 at 7:58PM - Hamilton County?

Anonymous said...

M, yes.

Vicki said...

Do you think DB wrote this? Why even mention "returned from the gym". This may have gone over before, but I just saw it. Even in asking for money for the family on the church's website there is a need to say he was at the Gym.


Blackburn Family Support Fund


On November 10th our pastor Davey Blackburn returned from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home and his wife Amanda had suffered a gunshot wound. She was rushed to the hospital where she later died as a result of her injuries. Please consider supporting our pastor Davey, their son Weston, and their entire family during these hard days ahead. We have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are hoping and believing that the best is still yet to come.

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