Friday, December 11, 2015

Deepinder Mayell Hate Allegation

Another "hate crime" or "fake hate"?  This is from the Star Tribune.  

When someone speaks publicly, there is a freedom to agree with what one says, or disagree.  

Statement Analysis gets to the truth.  

I ask readers to consider when a person has an agenda and just 'happens' to experience the very thing they seek to change, to consider the language, itself, as the basis for their judgement.  

Is Deepinder Mayell telling the truth?  When someone has an altercation, they will tell us so in direct, reliable language.  Passivity, on the other hand, is used as a form of deception, particularly in responsibility or identification.  

"The rock hit me in the head" is not to say, "He threw a rock at my head!"  

Truthful accounts will say so, plainly.

Deepinder Mayell is an attorney and director of the Advocates for Human Rights’ Refugee and Immigrant Program.

Statement Analysis is in bold type, with underlining and color added for emphasis.  


My run-in with hate speech at a Minnesota Vikings game

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It was my first Minnesota Vikings game and my first NFL game. I am not new to football, though. As an undergrad at Boston College, I went to many Eagles games, and I played junior varsity football. I knew what to expect on the field. I was excited, and, as I found my seat, I thought about bringing my family to a game in the new stadium.


Where a person begins a statement is always important, often revealing priority.  Here we are told that it was his first Vikings game, but not his first "football" game, and where he went to college.  



What I didn’t expect was for a man to push aside other people and point his finger in my face, demanding to know if I was a refugee. He needed to make sure I wasn’t a refugee, he said. There was anger in his face and vehemence in his accusation.

Please note the lack of commitment in the language.  The formula for commitment is the pronoun "I" and the past tense verb, directly linking the action.  

"A man pushed people and pointed his finger in my face..." 

Instead, he tells us only what he "did not" expect to happen.  Truthful people will tell us, plainly what happened and not what did not happen, was not thought, what was not said.  

I was stunned. 

Here we have the emotions in the "perfect" or "logical" portion of the story which is often a signal of artificial  placement.  The dating becomes important.  If this was something that happened long ago, time for processing would have elapsed. When someone recounts a true story from years ago, for instance, the brain has long processed it and the emotions end up here. 

But in truthful accounts where the event is recent, emotions are in the "after" part of the story; as following processing.  

When we see artificial placement of emotions, we seek if there is any repeated (sensitive) emphasis of emotions.  


He didn’t know anything about me. We were complete strangers. 

The "finger in the face" is alleged to have already happened.  This is very intrusive.

We do not expect to see the pronoun "we" here, as it indicates cooperation, connection, unity, etc.  


But somewhere in his mind, all he saw was a terrorist, based on nothing more than the color of my skin. He was white, and I wasn’t. He didn’t see anything else.

This is to report what the assailant thought, and what he did not thought.  This is the language of story telling. 


He didn’t know that I have lived in Minnesota for the past four years, that I was born and raised in New York and that the words “Never Forget” may mean more to me than to him. He didn’t know that when I went home and my children jumped on top of me and asked “How was the game?” that I’d be holding back tears as I told them about racism instead of touchdowns. He didn’t know that I am an attorney and the director of the Refugee and Immigrant Program at the Advocates for Human Rights.

In revealing to us what the man did not think, he now tells  us what may be the most important part of the article: 

What he does in life.  

Readers have seen this theme repeated:  a social justice warrior creates an event to fit his or her assertion.  


It was also abundantly clear that he didn’t know about refugees, dignity or freedom. He didn’t know that if he were speaking to a refugee, he’d be speaking to someone who feared persecution due to their race, religion, nationality, political opinion or social group. He didn’t know that many refugees are victims of some of the worst human-rights abuses occurring on the planet, ranging from being sold into sexual slavery to being killed in mass executions. He didn’t know that being a refugee is a badge of resilience and honor, not danger.

In statement analysis unnecessary words are deemed doubly important. 

Not only has he not given linguistic indication of an encounter, he ow tells us all the things he knows the man did not know.  

This is indicative of story telling and not veracity. 



In that moment, I was terrified. But what scared me the most was the silence surrounding me.

Please note that the "finger in my face" has already happened and there was the pronoun "we" connecting him to someone else.  Here we have another emphasis on his emotion:  he was "terrified", which is not only artificial placement (editorializing) but comes after he connected himself with the pronoun "we."

Pronouns do not lie.  

This is to say:  he was not "terrified."

Note the "silence" at a NFL football game with 55,000 in attendance.  



 As I looked around, I didn’t know who was an ally or an enemy. In those hushed whispers, I felt like I was alone, unsafe and surrounded. It was the type of silence that emboldens a man to play inquisitor. I thought about our national climate, in which some presidential candidates spew demagoguery and lies while others play politics and offer soft rebukes. It is the same species of silence that emboldened white supremacists to shoot five unarmed protesters recently in Minneapolis.

Note the introduction of "race" in his language. 

Note that this may be an embedded confession:  he was the inquisitor of his passive language. 

Passivity is used to conceal identity and/or responsibility.  Since the language suggests that he looked to start an argument, is it he, himself, that he references here?

The man eventually moved on. 


Note "eventually" is the passage of time and withholding of information.  Did he "move on" to another seat?  Or does this "moving on" concern conversation that "we" had?

It is very likely that "we" had a conversation and it should be learned if the refugee professional brought up a topic to seek an argument.  The pronoun "we" tells us that the artificial placement of emotions is confirmed.  

He was not afraid.  

I found security staff, and with a guard and friend at my side, I confronted the man on the concessions level. I told him that what he said was racist and that what he did scared me. I told him that I was afraid to return to my seat and that I was afraid that people were going to hurt me. I told him that what he did makes me afraid for my children.

Please note "with" between people indicates distance, which should then be compared to "at my side", which is closeness.  This incongruence speaks to the artificial placement of emotions, which then is revealed in order:

Note "scared" and "I was afraid" and then, lastly, "my children."

This suggests order and priority.  He is mentioned several times with these emotions, before "my children" entered his language. 

He does not tell us that his children were present, though he is afraid for them.  Please note this.  

Remember:  deception also comes by leading someone to think one thing, while not actually outright lie about it.  


Somewhere during that second confrontation there was a change. Maybe some humanity crept inside him. Maybe he felt the presence of the security guard. While he said he was sorry, his apology was uttered in an adolescent way that demonstrated that he felt entitled to reconciliation as much as he felt entitled to hurl hatred. He wanted to move on and enjoy the game. I told him that I didn’t want his apology. Rather, I wanted him ejected from the stadium because he made me feel unsafe.

Note passivity of "while he said he was sorry" follows the passivity which began the 'confrontation.'

Note the heightened elevation of his own emotion at a football game:  he did not want him ejected because the man was dangerous, posed a risk to people, or was out of control, but because he "made me feel unsafe."

The security staff talked with him privately. I don’t know what was said. 

This is very sensitive to the writer and the repetition is noted, as well as the unnecessary language of "I don't know..." (if it was private, he would not know)

This is to suggest how much it bothered him to be excluded from what was was said and indicates that the guard did not believe the refugee professional. 


He was not removed. 


This is an example of a truthful sentence by its structure and one of the few he gives that is technically reliable.  


Apparently, the Vikings do not think that hate speech and racism are removable offenses


My gameday experience was ruined. 

He does not mention his children being in danger.  


I tried to focus on the players, but I continued to take glances at the man who sat just a few yards away. I couldn’t help looking over my shoulder, wondering if he had inspired someone else. It was clear that I would not be bringing my family to a Vikings game.

He consistently uses passivity in language.  This is a form of deception.  Here he "continued to take glances" avoids saying, "he kept giving me dirty looks" or "he kept giving me threatening glances."

People do not like to lie outright as it causes internal stress. 


I am deeply troubled by what happened to me. Hate speech is a warning for us all. It is like smoke. Imagine your office, church or stadium filling with smoke, while everyone acted like nothing was wrong. That smoke eventually becomes an unstoppable fire, the type of fire that has consumed people around the world to commit horrendous crimes, the type of fire that can bring down the entire building. As President Obama stated in his address from the Oval Office on Sunday evening: “[I]t is the responsibility of all Americans — of every faith — to reject discrimination.” It is up to us all, from individual bystanders to institutions as big as the Vikings, to respond to and to stop the spread of racism and hate.

Note the reference to the Oval Office address by the President was in response to the murder of innocent people by Islamic supremacists.  Note his feelings were hurt in this article, but the context is those who are no longer alive to have hurt feelings.  

Analysis Conclusion:  

Deception Indicated 

The use of passivity, the lack of connection to the event, the artificial placement of the emotions, the pronouns and the editorializing of the account indicate deception. 

It is likely that he deliberately engaged a fan at a football game and incited a discussion about refugees, the very thing he does for a living. 

While watching a game in which men are physically beating each other with all their strength, his "feeling" was his priority, and the bulk of his statement is self promotion.  Note this in correlation with his children.  

"Fake Hate" and self promotion indicated.  

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79 comments:

Anonymous said...

This makes me wanna use the 'p' word!!

Anonymous said...

This is what it smells like to me:
He is "borrowing" silence in the more recent use of Marin Luther King rhetoric used by the pseud-Christians in their agendas. He assumes the the racist is Christian by his reconciliation comment.

His goal is ejection; not protection.

rob said...

It would have been nice when he brought up Obamas speech, to speak of some sympathy to the victims of his race/religion/ whatever. Maybe that would have shown that he is NOT like the 'white man' who he says intimated him.
In our local paper today, there was an article, with a photo of a woman in a head scarf (with regular clothes) about how these women fear that wearing the scarf will bring others to attack them. That they are taking self-defense classes and buying weapons. Who made people leary of them? Certainly not us. They did this to themselves.(not all of them, but some of them) The problem is who can tell who is who. What are the numbers of how many muslim women wearing the scarf or the whole robe and scarf, in the US are being attacked by us mean white people?
I for one would not to board a plane with them, or see them in a very large crowd, because I am fearful of the unknown of them. Are they all bad? NO Are all white men bad? NO

Anonymous said...

It is up to us all, from individual bystanders to institutions as big as the Vikings, to respond to and to stop the spread of racism and hate.

In the words of the sponge character with the square pants=-Bob somethin' or other-: Good luck with that!

mom2many said...

"He didn’t know that when I went home and my children jumped on top of me and asked “How was the game?” that I’d be holding back tears as I told them about racism instead of touchdowns."

Note that he brought up fear for his children, but according to this sentence his children were not even there with him. They were waiting at home to jump on him and ask how the game was.

Lis said...

It's getting so that as soon as there is a "hate" story in the news, I roll my eyes.

I'm trying to picture this whole encounter going on during the noise and activity of a football game, too.

Anonymous said...

Ot...kinda

ww.stltoday.com/news/local/fbi-alerted-to-suspicious-cell-phone-purchases-in-missouri/article_0441a40c-41bf-5e38-9ac3-94dc2b8fe20a.html

refer back to PigglyWiggly

Peter Hyatt said...

Is this guy making a point, or...

should we be very concerned that he is going to demand access to girls' bathrooms?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/1707/fifty-two-year-old-man-lives-six-year-old-girl-aaron-bandler

Peter Hyatt said...

Mom2many, this is an excellent point.

If you re-read what he says, he leads people to believe that he is afraid for his children while deliberately not saying if they are present or not.

He is not stupid.

To lie outright is something avoided.

He was neither afraid of the man nor was he afraid for his children. This is narrative, not truth.

You have picked up a finer point in analysis and you should be proud of yourself.

Peter

Vicki said...

I cant access all the news reports right now. This is a developing story, and what I have been hearing in the news sounds a bit hinky so far.



Fire at Grand Forks Somali restaurant intentionally set, investigator.
The Grand Forks Police Department also is investigating apparent vandalism that occurred overnight Thursday, when someone painted graffiti on the exterior wall of the building. The graffiti included what appears to be an SS in the style of a symbol for Nazi Germany’s Gestapo above the painted words “go home.”

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjjjKS5tNTJAhULoYMKHbTqBnEQFghOMAk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grandforksherald.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2F3898763-update-fire-grand-forks-somali-restaurant-intentional-marshals-say&usg=AFQjCNF8MMDdTvXCyXXGt8G-hC5jA2Tl-Q

Several organizations immediately offered assistance once they heard about the fire, including Hope Church and North Dakotans for Diversity and Compassion (NDDC). A GoFundMe page also has been established in support of the business. They have raised over $18,000. The fund was started by a college Professor.

2 days ago
Thanks everyone Who is showing support in my sister's Resturant. It honestly means a lot. We were feeling like we didn't belong here at all. But since everyone is in here showing our family some love thank you!!!

Anonymous said...

“This source added that as soon as the shooting took place, Obama convened a meeting with the National Security Council and the heads of other federal enforcement agencies to discuss a public relations strategy.” So his immediate concern after the jihad massacre was not for the victims or their families. He took no pains to bolster counter-terror efforts or to assure Americans that he was going to do so. No: his first thought was for a “public relations strategy” to cover for Islam and conceal the failure of his stance toward the jihad.

Daily Caller

Anonymous said...

when does this stuff stop?



The FBI has taken heat for failing to immediately classify the San Bernardino shootings as terrorism, but a new report shows that FBI reluctance could have been due to external pressure from the White House.

A source told Jack Murphy of SOFREP that the FBI instantly believed the shooting, which left 14 dead, to be a clear act of terrorism. The White House, however, didn’t feel the same way and quickly moved in to squash the terror classification.

This source added that as soon as the shooting took place, Obama convened a meeting with the National Security Council and the heads of other federal enforcement agencies to discuss a public relations strategy….

Peter Hyatt said...

Vicki

the foolishness of posting a swastika is quite indicative.

I can guess how this investigation is going to end!

Peter

Randie said...

Peter Hyatt, I know this is off topic, but would do analysis on Davey Blackburn's latest statement?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-davey-blackburn-taking-time-to-get-healthy-asks-church-not-to-let-wifes-death-go-to-waste-152210/#dzZOOGUsoieULZ8U.99

Peter Hyatt said...

https://www.gofundme.com/9ndxceb7

Note the wording of the sister of the owner....

People rush to throw money before using discernment.

They should be patient.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Yeah....someone being yanked out of the English dept or ELI

John mcgowan said...

"I am deeply troubled by what happened to me. Hate speech is a warning for us all. It is like smoke. Imagine your office, church or stadium filling with smoke, while everyone acted like nothing was wrong. That smoke eventually becomes an unstoppable fire, the type of fire that has consumed people around the world to commit horrendous crimes, the type of fire that can bring down the entire building."

We note what is repeated as sensitive. Why it is, is what we seek.

Has he given up cigarettes?
Has he given it up and is struggling? Is this why it entered his language?
Does he "smoke" pot?
Has he also given that up and is struggling? Is this, again, why it entered his language?
Has he been in a fire? Or witnessed one?
Has he heard something on TV, or heard someone talk about "smoke"?
Etc, etc..

Words do not come from a vacuum.

John mcgowan said...

*Recently

Anonymous said...

HOw do cliches factor in statement analysis?

In John's questions above about why smoke enters his mind. Can a person draw on a cliche such as where there's smoke there's fire when making a statement? I know people who use cliches all the time.

Anonymous said...

It's pyrrhic, John. Like Turkish Silver.

John mcgowan said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"HOw do cliches factor in statement analysis?"

Hi

Good question!

I could understand if, as you say, a "cliche"

Would it though, be repeated "smoke". He also, doesn't use a "cliche" "there's smoke there's fire"?

Peter!

mom2many said...

What do you make of this? Former Muslim, now Christian men, are entering Catholic Churches in Las Vegas and yelling that the Pope is Satan, among other things.

During the video, the man behind the camera can be heard loudly saying, "Repent and turn to Jesus Christ! Pope is a Satan! Pope is a Satan! Mary statue is a Satan!" as the men interrupt church services and distribute pamphlets.

Cardiel says, "If they're going to be afraid, I'd be afraid of dying without Jesus Christ, and dying in their sins."

He says the group never intended to scare anyone and always leaves when asked, adding that they typically enters the churches before Mass begins so as not to interrupt services. He also says the material, however disturbing to some listeners, is something he feels compelled to share.

"They are in jeopardy, OK, they need to be right with God, come to the Biblical Christ. So the language used there is correct. The pope is a Satan, I don't know if he (the man in the video) has an accent, a language barrier, but the Pope is an false prophet," Cardiel says.

In response to people feeling threatened by the display in light of recent terror attacks, Cardiel said, "That's understandable considering what's been going on, but the difference between us and them is we worship the one true God and God is a gracious and merciful God, slow to anger and of great kindness."

Cardiel did not clearly state whether he and his fellow ministers would continue entering churches despite the reaction from many people within the Catholic community.


http://www.ktnv.com/news/protesters-who-stormed-catholic-churches-speak-to-action-news

Anonymous said...

Guess I could make it clearer. Regarding the smoke analogy, if a person were thinking of the cliche "where there's smoke, there's fire" and incorporated that thought into their speech, would it have the same meaning as far as statement analysis goes.

Would that be part of cultural considerations such as normal speech patterns?

How do we analize someone who uses cliches in their speech?

RRH

mom2many said...

Back to the topic at hand, I notice in this article as well as the previous with the two women in the restaurant, after the situation is dispelled by the antagonist moving on, the Muslim individuals sought out their opponents to re-engage. It makes me think that there is a handbook or something out there instructing Muslims to attempt to escalate. These are verbal confrontations. I think the agenda is to provoke a physical assault. If one truly felt unsafe, would one really go seek out an individual perceived as an aggressor? In a stadium full of thousands of people, how exactly did he zero in on where his opponent sat?

mom2many said...

The other cliche that section on smoke brings to mind is "smoke and mirrors". In other words, the whole statement is just an illusion, or a sleight of hand, concealing the true intention.

Vicki said...

mom2many- yeah like a "smoke screen" or "blowing smoke..." :)

GeekRad said...

This isn't even a story, it is a fairy tale. He was afraid and afraid for his children? Who weren't there? It is not even a little believable.

mom2many said...

Vicki, yes! For the increasing prevalence of these sort of statements, you would think there were physically violent altercations going on everywhere toward Muslims in America, but I guess I've missed those news stories.

John mcgowan said...

mom2many said...

"The other cliche that section on smoke brings to mind is "smoke and mirrors"

Hi

That's a great shout!

John mcgowan said...

mom2many

I hope that doesn't get lost in translation. Lol. In the UK, it's a compliment! :)

tania cadogan said...

Peter Hyatt said...

Is this guy making a point, or...

should we be very concerned that he is going to demand access to girls' bathrooms?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/1707/fifty-two-year-old-man-lives-six-year-old-girl-aaron-bandler

December 11, 2015 at 1:29 PM


I saw the article and i snorted.
Why is he living now as a "child" when previously he claimed to be transgendered.
Child role playing often starts at a younger age, they miss what they perceive children should experience when young and should have experienced in their own childhood,and regress to childlike behavior.
I can't recall off the top of my head coming across a transgender male living as a female child.
I have heard of heteromales wearing female clothing as adult babies, these are known as sissiebabies (some include being forcibly dressed as a girl when male, masochistic)
I haven't heard of adult heterofemales dressing as boys.
I have heard of
I have a problem in that he was happy going from 8 down to 6 as often they have a specific age they want to be, babies and toddlers including diapers, bottles of milk, pacifiers and even to sleeping in adult size cots and soiling their diapers.
There are women who take on the role of 'mommy' this could be simply because they couldn't have their own children, they feel broody or they feel the need to mother really big babies.
I don;t get why he is pictured using a dummy, 6 yr olds are usually well past dummy age.

It is a fetish.
often in such cases the 'child' has a lot of issues going on, often they are men (it seems to be more male than female)they are in positions with a lot of responsibility and they revert to childlike behavior as it means no responsibility and a less stressful time of their life.

I wonder,if in his case, he was abused as a child?

"I don’t want to be an adult right now,
This leaves it open in the future that he will stop living as a child.
What changes in his life that he felt he could no longer live life as a responsible adult?
When will he start to live as an adult once again?

"We have a great time," Woscht said in his naturally deep voice. "We color, we do kids stuff. It’s called play therapy. No medication, no suicide thoughts. And I just get to play."
This sounds like he has spoken to psychotherapists and has introduced suicidal thoughts which were/are, treated by medication.
Currently he seems to be off his medication.
I would ask what he was taking?
Play therapy sounds like something a therapist would say.

Adult babies stay within their chosen age and gender, some use baby talk or toddler language as they role play the child.

I wonder how deep into the role he goes?

I would have concerns as to his interactions with children.
Adult babies are not paedophiles as it would contradict their internal perceived child personality.
Toddlers are not sexual beings.
Adult babies do not see themselves as sexual in relation to other adults and children.

My concern would be in relation to how his appearance and behavior is seen by children.

Literally, a genuine adult baby will act like their chosen age, this includes soiling diapers (moms get paid a lot more for doing that) baby food, even breast milk, again depending on their age.

It is a very specific fetish, sometimes linked to masochism such as school children being made to write lines or get spanked.

I would be interested to know what exactly his fetish involves as it would tell a lot about his own life experience.

Anonymous said...

It was not too long ago I was cornered into talking about a male gone baby when a once babysitter wanted to show her photos of a man wearing diapers and in a toddler's dress she took at the grocery store one night. She claimed he called her once and wanted to know the price she'd charge to come and change his diaper!

He'd hypnotized himself by bolting down the toilet lid and became incontinent after several months just so he could wear a diaper.

She then went on to talk of a 5 year old shoot his gay parents and thought he should be locked up for life. I said a few things, quoting history, and was told later I shouldn't have said those things as her son was gay. Well, oops! It was factual history and I couldn't rewrite if I wanted.

These people draw the media. Do the media build these people?

The guy that wore the diapers had been an actor on a famous hit movie in '70s.

John mcgowan said...

Tania

Hi

Wow!

"We color, we do kids stuff. It’s called play therapy. No medication, no suicide thoughts. And I just get to play."

"We do kids stuff"
"It’s called play therapy"
"No medication"
"no suicide thoughts"
"And I just get to play."

Without even applying, S/A (which, unless, one is trained, and Psychologically sound) it's very disturbing.

Girasol said...

I can see how in some "live" circumstances a person's choice of words can be very revealing. However, I strongly question whether as much can be gained from this kind of analysis of this kind of statement/story. To me it no more exaggerates reality that anyone who might conversely argue the danger of Islam from an encounter with a single person. There are real, and understandable feelings at play. Most of what he says, to me, rings true - he had some kind of altercation at a time and place when he was not expecting it, the intensity and confrontational nature of it shook him and caused him to keep glancing at the guy to see what he was up to and how he was behaving - searching for more "data" on the aggressor's motivations, and was it in fact over? It also seems to have launched him into a generalized fearful uncertainty about the future of his children. I do not identify with any minority but have behaved/reacted/reflected in exactly the same way on a couple of occasions when I have had such an altercation. I might well have chosen similar words to express these feelings, especially in a forum such as a newspaper story, a public arena where one usually writes in a different style than in a legal statement under cross-examination or when put on the spot by an interviewer. The "smoke" question? The poor guy is just searching for an analogy, to try to explain the feeling, it is a good one and makes total sense to me. I understand we are looking for sensitivity and indication, but this just seems to go too far, to the point of suggesting (at least to this reader) a similar degree of bias from the other side. I am appreciating the chance to learn about SA through this blog, but still feel I should call it as I see it, and continue to wrestle with its limitations.

Anonymous said...

I swear to God! If he'd just get his eyebrows waxed this type of thing would quit happening to him.

BallBounces said...

"Hate speech is a warning for us all. It is like smoke. Imagine your office, church or stadium filling with smoke, while everyone acted like nothing was wrong. That smoke eventually becomes an unstoppable fire, the type of fire that has consumed people around the world to commit horrendous crimes, the type of fire that can bring down the entire building."

It sounds like he's saying that when the Twin Towers went down, it was our fault. And that if we don't improve, we can expect more of the same, and it will once again be our fault.

Veiled threat?

Anonymous said...

A mosque was set ablaze. Maybe a prophet?

Jane said...

Why aren't these purveyors of fake hate stories concerned about credibility? I guess it's that they're not misguided political activists but rather today's version of flimflam men or women. Rather than selling fake Viagra or timeshares in a nonexistent beachfront apartment, these con artists just happen to operate in the political arena.

As added bonuses to their egos or bank accounts, victim status often means instant internet celebrity, new online 'followers' or 'friends,' a trending Twitter hashtag, and even donations on various websites.

Anonymous said...

What I don't get is he had a friend with him yet he is afraid of some (possibly beer drinking redneck) quizzing him. How did he find the guard so fast? Had he located him prior to the altercation?

Imagine what the concession area would have been like! Was it half time?

Anonymous said...

Blogger Peter Hyatt said...
Is this guy making a point, or...

should we be very concerned that he is going to demand access to girls' bathrooms?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/1707/fifty-two-year-old-man-lives-six-year-old-girl-aaron-bandler
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Thank you, Peter. Now how do i unsee that photo?

Apple

Shannon Duane said...

He even says they weren't there earlier in his statement. One of the first things he says is that he was thinking of whether to bring his family to the stadium before the "incident." That's means he was already there and was considering whether he should bring them to ANOTHER game. As soon as you mentioned fear for his children I thought "but they weren't there..." He was pretty clear about that point (he essentially said they weren't here at least twice). Expressing fear for them is ridiculous. What was he afraid of? That the guy would follow him home? Please.

New England Water Blog said...

The idea of a bunch of NFL fans watching an incident silently is laughable. Whatever position they took it would not be done silently. And lets face it, these days there would be little tolerance for this kind of bigotry. While many people are against what is going on to elicit an illicit invasion of this country few people tolerate face to face racism or bigotry anymore.

lynda said...

I find it interesting that in this "story" along with the fake hate of the 2 Saudi women in the cafe BOTH state that after the initial confrontation was defused or "over", they went BACK and confronted the alleged aggressor AGAIN. What is the purpose of this? Is it to make themselves look like they are heroes somehow because they called out a racist? That they didn't them "get away with it?" Why doesn't the story just end with the confrontation instead of both going back to confront and keep the "incident" going?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

John mcgowan @ 2:31

Re: smoke 3 x

My immediate thought was smokescreen. ;) His account is a smokescreen, thinly veiling his agenda. IMO, he instigated any confrontation, to bring attention to his cause.

There's nothing in his picture to support a "complete stranger" identifying him as Syrian or even Middle Eastern. I wonder what he wore to the game? Did he wear something identifying him as the Director of the Advocates For Human Rights' Refugee and Immigrant Program? Did he wear something, like a "Pro Refugee" t-shirt or button that announced his position? Pro team football fans are serious about their sport and team; they're paying good money to be there. They're usually a little too preoccupied with the game and the whole game day experience to mix it up about politics. Immigration and refugee issue aren't generally high on their priority list. Why would a fan single him out? Was he the only Middle Eastern-looking fan at the game? Highly Doubtful.

The Islamic Center of Minnesota estimated 55,000 non-Somali Muslims already in 2002. Depending upon the source, Somali Muslims primarily located in Minneapolis ranged from 14-15,000 (State of Minnesota) to 80,000 (Somali estimate per Minnesota Department of Children, families, and Learning). SOURCE: https://minneapolisfed.org/publications/community-dividend/size-of-twin-cities-muslim-population-difficult-to-determine

The area I live in has a disproportionate number of refugees and immigrants. I would be hard pressed to differentiate between Indian, Middle Eastern, and Hispanic at times- particularly when the men are all dressed "American". LOL

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Rob @ 12:40 PM

I hear you. We actively practice "situational awareness" as my spouse terms it, having had a close encounter at a relatively small local mall. It was terrifying, as I was shopping with my teen that day. Neither my teen nor I are likely to ever forget the fear. Peter is absolutely right-the store lights were brighter, sounds were magnified, my heartbeat pounded in my head, I was laser focused on the nearest side exit, my sole focus was getting us out of there. As we exited the parking lot furthest from the mall, we both felt physically sick for quite awhile.

Our family rule: we automatically and immediately leave any location if a woman is in a burqua. Profiling? No, situationally aware. When we are out and about, my spouse and I are alert for clothing oddities, as well as backpacks/oversize bags, etc. and packages/containers or things that just look out of place ("not right"). I confess, I scope out potential exits just like I consider where to go if the car next to me suddenly changes lanes. Paranoid? No. Self-defense, you bet. We're situationally aware- this is the world we live in thanks to a murderous religious ideology, the lack of national security, and a society that is foolish enough to discredit human nature and thousands of years of documented world history in favor of "world peace" and shares our President's philosophy that "We can all come to the table (the White House or Camp David) and discuss our differences and come to an understanding with mutual respect.".

We've been evacuated from a local Walmart (also shopping with the same teen that day). I continually scanned the crowd and deliberately herded my child out a less crowded and slightly obscured side entrance. There was NO way we were going out that front door- trapped in a panicked, defenseless, chaotic crowd with who knows what. I diverted us around the lot rather than making a beeline to the parking lot, with everyone else. We weren't going to be picked off coming out the front doors by any potential accomplices in the parking lot. Sad to say, I've learned a lot from school shootings. That experience birthed another family rule- we evacuate at all alarms- even if an employee assures us "someone probably just opened a fire alarm door". Oddly enough, no fire trucks responded that day (less than 2 mi. from a station) but police did. We avoid that particular Walmart if at all possible- the parking lot layout forces drivers into 2 lengthy lines, funneling to 1 of the 2 main exits = no way to get out quickly in an emergency.

In both cases, I was thankful for every lecture my spouse & I had ever given this teen on the importance of obeying immediately.

John mcgowan said...

OT Update:

Casey Parsons appeal denied by federal judge

SALISBURY, NC (WBTV) -
An appeal made by the adoptive mother of missing Rowan County teenager Erica Parsons has been denied by a federal judge, according to court records.

Casey Parsons and her husband Sandy are serving ten and eight years respectively in federal prison for fraud for continuing to take federal adoption assistance money meant for Erica long after Erica was gone from their Salisbury home.

Casey Parsons, 39, pleaded guilty to 16 federal charges October 1 of 2014. Sandy Parsons was convicted following a trial that same month. Both were sentenced in February, 2015.

Erica Parsons was reported missing by her brother in July 2013 at the Rowan County Sheriff's Office. She has reportedly not been seen since November 2011.

Casey and Sandy Parsons have maintained that Erica went to live with her biological grandmother in Asheville. They say they have not had any contact with her since February 2012.

Despite intense searches, no grandmother has ever been found, and during the trial for Sandy Parsons the federal prosecutor said that he believed Erica Parsons was dead.

A $50,000 reward is still being offered for information about the disappearance and whereabouts of Erica Parsons. Anyone with information is asked to contact the FBI or Rowan Sheriff's Office at 704-216-8700.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/30724703/casey-parsons-appeal-denied-by-federal-judge

Anonymous said...

So will bill boards near the home of the fake hate claimants be erected? just like the ones fb started w/postings of comments they've deemed inappropriate?

Anonymous said...

at 10:11

the reason for going back again is to exert dominance. feigning courage toward an aggressor. its an attempt to shame or cower while creating a narrative that is hoped will gain support.its agenda driven: sympathy. All the fake hate claims should be covered as loudly as the unchallenged stories covered by media.

Misha said...

OT article regarding stefonknee.
https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/transwoman-stefonknee-wolscht-lives-life-as-a-six-year-old-girl/

When I first read the article on this man I wondered what the 'mummy and daddy' were thinking expeosing this weirdo to their grandchildren and could only conclude that there were probably a sexual angle to it and went looking for more background information and the above article really fills out his background (amazing that the newspepers here and in the states reported on him as though he were an innocent.

Here are a few paragraphs from the above article:

Before coming out as her true authentic pediatric female self, Stefonknee (“Steph on knee”, geddit?) was a 53 year old man named Paul who was living his inauthentic life as the married father of seven children. According to him, he looked after the kids while his wife worked as the principal of an elementary school. He was also self-employed as an auto mechanic who worked on cars in a garage on the family property “mainly overnight” after his wife got home.

In 2009 he was charged with 14 criminal offenses of assault, uttering threats, criminal harassment, and criminal mischief. His wife and their two oldest children- then in their late teens- testified against him. He was found guilty of assault and uttering threats. The court also issued a two-year restraining order against him that applied to his wife and all seven of his children. He and his wife divorced.

He moved to Toronto on parole and became a “transgender activist”. He was employed, apparently at The 519 Community Center as a “trans consultant” until, according to transactivist Justin Travis “Julienne” Goins now Patience “patienceinbee” Newbury he was terminated

Misha said...

cont'd:

MPP Cheri DiNovo thanked our little girl by name in testimony at the passage of Bill 33 which stripped Canadian women of legal sex status, and all rights therein, replacing protections for women (to be housed separately from males in prison, etc) with the rights of men like Stefonknee to wag their dick around the women’s locker room, women’s domestic violence shelter, or women’s prison. (I tweeted at MPP DiNovo inquiring whether she would be introducing a bill to protect Stefonknee’s rights to have his age identity protected in public accommodations such as children’s tables at Chuck E Cheese, access to height and weight restricted amusement rides, and incarceration in the juvenile justice system if convicted of another assault. MPP DiNovo had not yet responded for comment at the time of this post).

Eschewing any transgender hormonal or surgical modification “treatment”, Paul utilized his newfound rights as a male under DiNovo’s Bill 33 and took a spot in a women’s homeless shelter on the basis of his gender feels, and began attending services at the MCC Church. There he spouted tales of his abject transgender transchild existence to kindly folks who put love into action (and who turned a blind eye to his simmering rage, manipulative lies and compulsive autogynephilia). “I have lost my children, have been disowned by family, church and friends, been homeless, I’ve lost all I worked forty-six years to achieve, I am unemployed for the first time in my life, I am now a convicted criminal, I suffer from PTSD and am constantly thinking of killing myself…”

Enter FetLife, the final chapter, and the total immersive realization of Paul/Stef’s truly superauthentic True Self as a trans-pedo transgender identified “six year old girl” sexually partnered to a similarly sketchy kinkster pair of polyamorous nudist inhabitants of Unsexy Erotic Lifestyles in Peterborough Ontario.

Fire up the cameras because this is one lady- I mean girl! – (and by that I mean middle-aged deadbeat father of seven) who really wants the world to know how Brave! And Heroic! It is for men to embrace and devote their whole life to their sexualized embodiment of what they see women and girls as.

“I felt like a woman!” reports Stefonknee of his “adopted dad’s” penis inserted man-on-man into his “six year old girl” rectum at the Oasis swingers club. “I was surprised I didn’t think I was going to be pregnant, I was so much a girl. I actually have an erection right now from it so I’m just going to pull my dress down a little bit,” he told the journalists who were covering his journey to girlhood.

John mcgowan said...

OT update:

Apologies if this is a re post

Pastor Davey Blackburn Taking Time to 'Get Healthy,' Asks Church Not to Let Wife's Death Go to Waste

Indiana Pastor Davey Blackburn whose pregnant wife, Amanda, was fatally shot during a home invasion on Nov. 10, says he's taking time away from the pulpit to get healthy and asked his congregation not to let his wife's death go to waste.

In a video message recorded on Nov. 29, directed at his small congregation at Resonate Church in Indianapolis, Blackburn urged them to use his wife's death to get more people to come to church.


"I believe that even in this situation one of the things that God wants to use and do in this situation is that he wants to embolden us with more courage to invite our friends into relationship with Jesus. And so I'm confident that within the next several weeks there's gonna be great opportunities for people to come to know Jesus, so I want you to invite your friends. I want you to invite your family.

"And I don't want this tragedy to be wasted. And so I want us to capitalize on seeing more and more people come to know Jesus as their personal savior," said Blackburn.

"In the meantime, my role is gonna look just a little different, my plan is to be back preaching on a regular basis. I'm not sure when exactly that will be. I want to make sure I am in a place where I am healthy and I am preaching out of a place where I can offer you something. Right now, I just need to take a step back and get healthy. And get filled up and kinda get redirected on what the next step is for our life," he continued.

He also noted that he wanted to make sure his young son, Weston, is in the best place possible after losing his mother.

"I also want to make sure that I am taking time to make sure Weston is doing really well in this bit of chaos — that he's finding some stability in, that we're really able to shepherd his heart in this process," said Blackburn.

The grieving preacher said he believes God called his family to Indianapolis despite his wife's death and said she gave her life to see the city changed.

"One of the things I do know and that I am confident in, is that through this entire season, what the Lord wants us to do, and what Amanda would want us to do is not give up any ground. I wholeheartedly believe that God has still called me to Indianapolis, he called our family to Indianapolis, and that Amanda gave her life to see Indianapolis changed," said Blackburn.

"I want you to know that these are folks who love our church. Who love the vision of our church who are helping us carry out the vision of our church to see people far from God, coming to Christ, do whatever it takes, to connect people to a life change," said Blackburn.

"These people are going to come in with a heart to see people come in to Jesus and help people take their next step. This is again, not a time for us to back down from our mission but to actually carry it out with even fuller force," he added.


Cont..

John mcgowan said...

Cont..

Blackburn's 28-year-old wife was shot multiple times during a home invasion on Nov. 10.

A copy of the affidavit of probable cause against her suspected killer, Larry Jo Taylor Jr., 18, and his accomplice, Jalen Watson, 21, released last month by the Marion County Prosecutor's Office, painted an agonizing picture of how she died.

The autopsy conducted on Amanda Blackburn on Nov. 12 revealed: "(She) sustained a gunshot wound to the back of her head. She also had a gunshot wound to the lower left arm which traveled up to her biceps. She also had a through and through gunshot wound which entered and exited her upper back."

She also had "scratches to her left cheek, a split lip and a lower tooth knocked out."

Police say a confidential informant told them that Taylor confessed to killing Amanda after she attempted to attack him.

"Taylor stated that she charged at him and he shot her somewhere in the upper body so he would not be scratched. Taylor then told them that he leaned over her body and shot her in the back of the head. He leaned further, looked at her face, and watched her bleed," explained the informant.

In the video message to his church, Blackburn thanked his church for their support during his time of bereavement.

"I honestly do not know that anybody could have gone through what we've gone through without the family of God. Without the body of Christ. And you know one of the things we say all the time, is it's impossible to do alone and I'm really feeling that conviction as a reality in our life right now. So I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart," said Blackburn.

"I am not with you guys this week, and I want to thank you for understanding through this process, my absence. It's difficult to figure out how to process through all of this right now but at this point I'm just trying to take a step back and trying to figure out what's next for me, what's next for Weston, what's next for Resonate Church," he said.

Plus VT below

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-davey-blackburn-taking-time-to-get-healthy-asks-church-not-to-let-wifes-death-go-to-waste-152210/

maudes harold said...


I am posting this video to emphasize how the authorities in Dearborn handled the situation. The interaction between the "protestors" and the authorities starts at about halfway through the 22 minute video.

The majority of what the Christian group filmed was mostly children throwing and shouting things, but it's when WCSD Deputy Chief Mike Jaafar confronts them that it gets interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

The "protestors" were ultimately told to leave or get arrested because they were creating a dangerous situation which the authorities said they did not have the manpower to cover. For a rebuttal to this, watch the ending of the video and the amount of police used to "escort" them away.

I feel for many of the police in this situation.



http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/dearborn-no-go-zone-where-islam-rules-and-christians-are-stoned


"This incident crystallized in a single afternoon what happens when a sovereign nation relinquishes legal control of portions of its territory. So-called “No Go Zones” have become ominously commonplace across Europe: These are places that are effectively off-limits not only to non-Muslims but to the law enforcement and security forces of the country as well. In France, they go by the anodyne name of “Zones Urbaines Sensibles” (ZUS)."

Anonymous said...

Peter Hyatt,
Could not locate info on LSI website regarding sale of book by Avinoam Sapur about Genesis Inquired via email,but havent received response. Still interested.

tania cadogan said...

"In the meantime, my role is gonna look just a little different, my plan is to be back preaching on a regular basis. I'm not sure when exactly that will be. I want to make sure I am in a place where I am healthy and I am preaching out of a place where I can offer you something. Right now, I just need to take a step back and get healthy. And get filled up and kinda get redirected on what the next step is for our life," he continued.

Why does this make me think of rehab?
Clearly he doesn't think the school hall is enough anymore in that where he is currently isn't offering people anything (he has that right)
When someone speaks about a need to get healthy, they aren't talking about an illness.
If he had a physical ailment i would expect him to say i have such and such a disease and i am now taking the time to get treatment so i can be around for Weston.
He didn't feel the need to bring it up any sooner blah blah

Healthy is mentioned twice making it sensitive.

I wonder if he is referring to sex addiction(it would fit with his sexualised sermons)
Does he have an STD (how would he explain that away?)
Is he abusing drugs since he spends so much time in the gym (steroids perhaps?) it could account for his anger issues.
What about other drugs?

Alcohol perhaps?

He isn't healthy, he has told us this.

What is his definition of healthy?
Physical or mental?

Is he perhaps realising the net is closing and he is now dropping hints that he has mental health issues (insanity plea anyone?

He has a history of telegraphing his intent and the future in his sermons.
The punching someone in the mouth knocking their teeth out.
Shooting at your worries.
Discussing his sex life and degrading and debasing his wife in public, even to referring to an anal sex scene from Last Tango in Paris and then laughing at Amanada when she didn't get what the butter referred to.

His wife was viciously hit in the mouth losing a tooth, left naked and exposed from the waist down and shot 3 times, all of which had been in his sermons.

Is he now telegraphing his future intent?
is he planning to go somewhere where he has to be extradited back from?

It is also worth noting he uses the pronouns MY and I all through the statement right to the end when he suddenly uses the pronoun OUR in relation to OUR LIFE

Who is the OUR he is referring to?

John mcgowan said...

""I believe that even in this situation one of the things that God wants to use and do in this situation is that he wants to embolden us with more courage to invite our friends into relationship with Jesus. And so I'm confident that within the next several weeks there's gonna be great opportunities for people to come to know Jesus, so I want you to invite your friends. I want you to invite your family.

"And I don't want this tragedy to be wasted. And so I want us to capitalize on seeing more and more people come to know Jesus as their personal savior," said Blackburn.


More people = More money.

Anonymous said...

John, some times selfish Christians believe they are more blessed based on the amount of gold they acquire. Their actions-be they illegal, self-serving, or downright narcissistic-are God's way of furthering the Kingdom.

America is becoming divided based on us against them throwing demographics in one of two categories:Christian vs. Muslim.

Actually, it's been that way for a long time and those of us that have had to live through the terror never realized it until it was too late. If you aren't able to take a daily dose of it then you aren't godly enough to stand among them.

I heard a woman say she'd moved 5 times in one year. I had been thinking of moving and I thought should I stay in the same area nothing would change. Hearing her confirmed it. The odds of living near a tin-foil Christian, Christians who think they can do and be everything to everybody and fail to take care of their children, neighborhoods,and believe it is their godly duty to gossip about others while others are being torn down, victimized by crime, fake charities, and general extortion were extremely high when they'd prefer psychobabble over reality. Trying to be "cool" and accepting and not wanting to appear prejudiced meant not demanding safety, health -both physical and mental-in lieu of "God can do all."

The numbers increase rapidly within a segment of society. The same holds true of other types of religion such as Islam. They are in it for their betterment and the betterment of their race of people known for their religion.

Nothing sells better than a murder;DB knows this. There are many out there just like DB.

Anonymous said...

O/T -- A recent Facebook post by Tammy Moorer
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I am overwhelmed at the community support that has poured in since that one sided show aired - packed with the 2013 lies. Our phones have been slammed with messages of support from the community, thank you all! I am so grateful that the good people of Horry County have been there for us, and have come forward with so much information since the bond hearing in January of 2015 laid out the truth. Evidently this show didn't take a minute to do their job as far as research goes. If you have taken a curiosity in this case keep your wallets sealed and look at the hate and threats spewed on little children. Ask yourself what type of person can even ponder such a thought. Definitely not a human being. Then look at all the fake profiles they have created just to torture anyone that asks questions or tells the truth. Makes ya wonder, don't it? The few that actually use their real names have some interesting backgrounds. Go ahead and research their criminal pasts, and while you are it look at mine. Not even a traffic ticket! Research the past of those begging for your hard earned money and ask questions about what they have used it for so far. You will get the reaction many locals have experienced when asking the same questions. It's not good and know that you and your children will be attacked as all of our families have been. I wish to God I could tell all of you the truth, but we're not allowed to speak up. We can't tell you what all has happened to us. We have had our constitutional rights taken away. We have been falsely accused of a crime that may or may not have even happened!
A lot of people are coming to my page to see who Tammy Moorer is. I am a mother of 3 that is happily married. I am a woman of God, and I praise Jesus daily for the wonderful things He has done for us. I was raised by a loving mother and father and my relationship with my parents was and is amazing. I have the best sister a girl can ask for. I have the greatest friends on this earth that have been through hell for showing their support, because they truly know us, and they know we could never do something like this. I love animals and we rescued many over the years. I love photography. I love music. I don't judge people, and especially now I keep an open mind when I hear any reports the media puts out there. They will say anything for a rating. When offered Christmas gifts this year from friends and generous strangers we have asked them to instead donate to abused women and children shelters, animal rescues, or the homeless. We have been blessed these past few months and God is taking care of our needs.
Now watch what happens with this public post. It will be shared by hate groups filled with fake profiles. If these people cared one bit about a missing girl this is the last thing they'd be doing. It's disrespectful to her and to a community that actually cares about what really happened. The surprise will be when all of you find out who the mastermind is behind all of this hate. It won't be long until his name is released and some of you will be shocked. I know who he is. I bet a lot of you do too!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Anonymous said...

O/T -- A recent Facebook post by Sidney Moorer (although it's probably really written by Tammy
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OK... I am going to set the story straight here. Yes I paid a person for sex. NO I was not dating said person. No we did not go OUT on dates or anywhere else other than for me to receive my services. Sorry if this comes out sounding bad but I am sick of the lies from people that have lied and lied and lied and have been caught doing it. I have cooperated from the beginning and did so until my words were twisted and I was lied about. SO here is where I am at Jimmy Richardson. Put up or shut up. We didn't do this and you know it. Stop wasting taxpayers money and go after the person you have evidence on. Tell the damn truth for once. Stop stalling Jimmy, set a court date or move on. Thank you all. And to all the haters and the ones too dumb to think for themselves, Have a Disney day!!!

Anonymous said...

I think I remember reading this a long time ago. IIRC, this is the one where the apt. of the missing-now occupied by a new tenant-was being entered and lived in while they (he/she) were away. Food missing, food added, no toilet paper, etc.

What she has posted may be true. Typical of how kidnapping and extortion rings operate.

And, I recall the media trying to profile them based on dog dookie in the yard. Lol!

Nope, the media does nothing to further constitutional rights. If they had their way all any of us would be doing is contributing to their causes and acting like mindless,spineless drones for their betterment based on their "studies" and fictional interpretation of history.

The author gets it: note all the causes they (he/she) promote.

tania cadogan said...

I wish to God I could tell all of you the truth, but we're not allowed to speak up. We can't tell you what all has happened to us. We have had our constitutional rights taken away. We have been falsely accused of a crime that may or may not have even happened!


Oh dear.

If she was innocent of the crime she is accused of, why can she not speak out loud and proud of her innocence.
Innocent people have no reason to be told to say nothing.
There is no comeback if an innocent person tells the world they didn't do said crime.
There is no legal requirement that says an innocent person can say nothing about their innocence on pain of punishment.

However, guilty people will be told by their attorney to shut up and say nothing, since they know anything their client says in public can and will be used in court against them.
If their client says nothing at all, then there is nothing incriminating in their statements.

Note also she invokes a deity which weakens her statement.

The surprise will be when all of you find out who the mastermind is behind all of this hate. It won't be long until his name is released and some of you will be shocked. I know who he is. I bet a lot of you do too!
If this is true, why does she not tell us who the so called mastermind is?
Only some of us will be shocked?

Also worth noting, in all her statement, not once does she say "I did not kill Heather Elvis"
If she can't say it,i can't say it for her.

Anonymous said...

Tania, let's play a game: Hunt for the reason why a person should not be entitled to a lawyer.

tania cadogan said...

Everyone is entitled to a lawyer.

Let's play another game.

Why would a lawyer advise their client to say nothing if they did not do the crime they are charged with?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Post 1 of 3

Tania at 10:04 AM Nicely done!
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Tammy uses 3 rambling paragraphs attempting to convince the world how squeaky clean, compassionate, and upstanding she & Sidney are...yet no reliable denial. Innocent people accused of a crime are offended and righteously indignant = loud, angry, and pointedly specific in their denial.

"I am overwhelmed at the community support that has poured in since that one sided show aired - packed with the 2013 lies." The priority is not a strong, reliable denial. She never once addresses one lie and rebuts it with factual evidence. Her priority is to deflect by attack. She lavishes praise on their supporters and quickly moves to attack the character of anyone who doesn't believe her/them (weakness). She attempts to shore up her/their position and character, using the character of others (her sister, generous strangers, look what we're doing NOW)- further highlights weak position. To use Tammy's word,she evidences an "overwhelming" need to persuade. Three paragraphs; not one logical, factual rebuttal.

"If you have taken a curiosity in this case keep your wallets sealed and look at the hate and threats spewed on little children."- Order is important. She instructs people to keep your wallets sealed first. Money is sensitive to Tammy. Why? Then comes threats spewed on little children. Note she does not say little children were threatened or even children were threatened. Note she does not identify whose children were threatened. Note the children were little. Why weren't big children or older children threatened? Deception indicated; attempting to emotionally manipulate and generate sympathy.

"Ask yourself what type of person can even ponder such a thought. Definitely not a human being. Then look at all the fake profiles they have created just to torture anyone that asks questions or tells the truth. Makes ya wonder, don't it? The few that actually use their real names have some interesting backgrounds. Go ahead and research their criminal pasts, and while you are it look at mine. Not even a traffic ticket!"- No criminal record does not mean one has not committed a crime. Deception indicated. It often simply means one has not been successfully prosecuted for a crime.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Post 2 of 3

"Research the past of those begging for your hard earned money and ask questions about what they have used it for so far."- Tammy's second reference to money indicates increased sensitivity. [See Sydney's admission of paying "a person" for sex]

"We can't tell you..."- Can't means something is preventing Tammy. Who or what is preventing Tammy from telling us?

"We've had our constitutional rights taken away."- How so? In what way? Have you hired an attorney and instituted a civil rights lawsuit? Contacted the ACLU? Why not? Deception indicated by lack of defining detail and reciprocal action.

"We've been falsely accused of a crime that may or may not have happened."- First, a crime has to have occurred to be under suspicion, accused, and charged. This is the second most logical and natural place to issue a forceful denial- "I did not kidnap/abduct, harm or injure, or kill Heather. I did not conspire to kidnap/abduct, harm or injure, or kill Heather. I did not hire or coerce anyone else to kidnap/abduct, harm or injure, or kill Heather."

"I am a mother of 3 that is happily married." - Note order of importance with Tammy determining what she wants us to know about her. Mother comes before marriage; marriage is qualified with "happily". This speaks to a need to persuade. Being a mother doesn't guarantee one of if good character (Casey Anthony was a mother). Marriages are assumed to be happy, unless one tells us otherwise.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Post 3 of 3

"I am a woman of God, and I praise Jesus daily for the wonderful things He has done for us."- Tammy's second and third invocation of deity; attempting to use religious language to deflect accusation and suspicion. A woman of God does not chain/tie her wandering husband to their bed (her previously self-stated reason for why Sidney could not have gone and met Heather that night/early morning). A woman of God does not use her Facebook page to call a woman a whore/prostitute, much less excuse her husband's repeated adultery while blaming the missing victim. A woman of God doesn't use the hate-filled language Tammy has repeatedly spewed against Heather and her father. Tammy does not identify herself as a Christian (i.e. Christ-believer,Christ follower)- deception indicated.

"We have been blessed these past few months and God is taking care of our needs."- Tammy's fourth reference to deity; increased sensitivity. Her need to persuade is strong; no reliable denial issued.

"Now watch what happens with this public post. It will be shared by hate groups filled with fake profiles. " Dissenters are automatically members of "hate groups", whose members are "filled with" fake profiles. No reliable denial and freely and recklessly assassinating people's character- Projection.

"If these people cared one bit about a missing girl this is the last thing they'd be doing. It's disrespectful to her and to a community that actually cares about what really happened."- Has Tammy ever joined a search for Heather? Why isn't Tammy out searching for Heather? Discussing Heather's case and considering that Tammy and Sidney may be complicit is disrepectful to Heather? In what way? Since when is Tammy concerned for Heather or with being respectful of Heather? Tammy is moralizing as a deflection tactic-no reliable denial. Note distancing in Tammy's refusal to use Heather's name. Note subtle disparagement of the victim "a missing girl".

"The surprise will be when all of you find out who the mastermind is behind all of this hate."- Use of "mastermind", speaks to a conspiracy between two or more people...leaking marbles. Note use of mastermind, in context with "behind" (position word) and "hate". Sidney is not the brightest bulb in the shed; servant to his sex drive. What kind of wife has to chain/tie a man to her bed to keep him "faithful"? What kind of a guy agrees to that or needs to be chained/tied? One who lacks self-control or simply repeatedly fails to use it and a wife who know him well. "This" hate",in context and compared to a missing and assumed murdered Heather? Tammy's concern is for herself. Lack of reliable denial to rebut and stop "this hate".

Note Tammy's language throughout this diatribe: slammed, hate and threats spewed, tortured, begging, attacked, hate, disrespect, missing girl, and mastermind. Her own words evoke violent imagery. With this in mind, reread the second paragraph with it's overwhelming need to persuade and mask who she is. Hers is the language of violence.

Anonymous said...

Elvis may have fled persecution from the oddball couple. Why else would they let people with murder charges pending prosecution move to another state?

I wouldn't want to be around the two. If they have no evidence connecting her disappearance to murder, they will carry on their freak show elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I would look more into the connection of drug and human trafficking among this couple, their friends and the community in which they thrive. There is a reason these accused murderers are allowed to roam.

Her deity-God if you will-allows her to do good things to work towards redemption.
She has a fondness toward: children, animals, and people's wallets.

Her husband excuses his behavior by claiming services rendered (sex with the missing) were paid for. (His God in a nutshell)

I can only imagine people who know them or have come in contact with them know a lot more about them but the subject has never been broached. Most likely anyone not like them aren't going to talk about them as it would be too painful knowing these drama couples not only exist, but thrive in their environment taking on hostages in their wake.

The girls car was found locked with personal items inside. If someone told me I was going to get my azz whooped, I wouldn't dart out in the middle of the night to meet them. Not alone! Not unarmed!

Unless I was a mooney-eyed, lovesick girl that got a call from an older man and was convinced we'd run away together.

The use of "mastermind" is these two match wits with others that are like them. It will be convoluted, sick and twisted.

She threatened. Next day the person disappeared. Can coincidences happen? Yes. However, the charges are justified.

Look for the missing's background. Was she prostituting? A drug user? Other conflicts of interest?

Watch her apt. It's very important in this case.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the man who is now living as a 6 year old girl...seriously, call the funny farm. What an idiot!

If it is fetish behavior, why isn't he dressing up like that with other adults? I think it is so alarming he is allowed near children.

That guy is whacky as all hell!
And to think some church started a support group just for HIM!!! Yeah, it must require so much support to abandon your 7 children and sit around coloring all day!

On a separate note, he is the creepiest looking "little girl" I have ever seen!

This guy belongs in a mental institution or he needs a Marine drill sergeant in his face to scream at him to grow the hell up!

Seriously though, how is his behavior all that different from what seems to be the societal norm of men (even of middle age) just deciding they don't want to be Dads anymore and regressing to child-like behavior...watching TV all day, smoking pot, throwing tantrums. Behavior that is so unmanly they should be deeply ashamed brings about NO SHAME! This guy has just brought it one step further where he makes a kind of parody of it, but I think this is the direction MANY men are headed in where they have as much masculinity as a little girl (none) and feel free to have NO responsibility of ANY KIND.

My own child's father is 46 years old and decided being DAD is too much work so he sits around in his place watching movies in ALL of his spare time and his MOM yelled at me that I put too much pressure on him to be a DAd because it is too much strain on him, he should not be expected to do ANYTHING ANYMORE, that includes something as simple as giving my son a ride anymore, and that when her precious son yelled at me and called me names I should have "backed off" because he had every right to scream at me for expecting him to be a father.

Believe me, there are a lot of guys out there who are middle-aged and should be wearing dresses. Men are not men anymore. This guy found a crazy couple to "adopt" him. MOst of these guys have families that baby them and act like the "poor man" shouldn't have to be a Dad, it's way too much stress.

Anonymous said...

Tania,
I read more and am convinced the girl was kidnapped by someone she knew. The father claimed someone drove by and yelled they had Heather and Morgan was next.

It's a drug, human trafficking ring that operate like family feud.

Anonymous said...

I found this: http://wbtw.com/2015/08/24/sc-human-trafficking-may-be-more-prevalent-than-thought/

A little behind the curve is most likely an understatement.

The apt. being entered while the occupant was away is a telltale sign of their operation. They wish to control people inside their homes, their family, friends, and whomever they deem their slaves. It's an entrapment program.

Tammy and Sidney are symptomatic of the problem. If they cared about their children in the first place they wouldn't boast about their extra-marital affairs online. Their friends are probably the same way. Tammy is an over-grown high school bully that picked on a girl half her age. She thinks and acts like a immature goddess of controlling her man.

The other rednecks jump on board taunting the father of the victim. Other rednecks back the Moorers. It won't end well.

These operations are allowed to exist in areas with no trained police force. Often they rely on churches or charities to do the policing. The problem then explodes.

The girl will be found dead. Others will live a miserable life in hell barely making it though each day as these do-gooders try to force them into their lifestyle.

It's a pseudo-Christian stance to a rising problem in America.

It is often associated with illegal immigration as many smugglers haul them in for farming, construction, and restaurant jobs.

They called it a "study" but it was easy to see from the journalists profiling based on dog dookie that they merely want to rename the problem, not solve it or offer assistance in any way.

The police want the newly trained "psycho journalists" to do their job for them and help them get promoted and pay raises. In return, they get access to crime in the area. Nothing gets done.

Bet alot of people are living in a hellhole there.

Anonymous said...

And, there's a pic of the Jeep that claimed they had Heather. The father said no plates on it. And, someone spray painted a red X on his business door.

It went from kidnapping to extortion in no time at all. The wacko kiddie lovers are guilty, perhaps not of murder, but the man may have baited the girl out and someone else took her.

If he is interested in girls her age, odds are he has male friends that age, too. Bet he's an alcoholic and frequents a bar(s) often. Maybe he buys for underage kids since they love them so much.

I'm often leery when I hear of biker groups wanting to take the helm on confused teens. It's likened to a cult.

If they are in Fla. there's enough of their kind there and it won't be long until they are doing the same thing.

Anonymous said...

The place where the girl worked- The Tilted Kilt- catered to middle-aged beer guzzlin' men who liked being around young girls with big boobies while watching sports on the many TVs inside. The food doesn't look all that great, and the male to female ratio is appx 20:1.

That tells you a little about the culture in the area. You can bet they'll be acquitted.

Remember that Hooters waitress in Fla that was gunned down by a patron? A much older man. The judge refused to give her a restraining order against him though he was always wherever she was, wrote, called and threatened. No, "Oops, I made a mistake on that one!" Freedom of speech was the main concern;not life itself, or even quality of life.

The Moorers have support from their community because...........you guess.

Anonymous said...

It's the "we" factor, Tania.

They don't need a reliable denial when there are too many other suspects.

BTW, where are all of you?

Anonymous said...

Out on some top secret mission for Homeland Security or merely out hoarding "hot wheels" and dead animals?

Turtle said...

His children were not present. He says that very clearly earlier on, when he imagines bringing them to the stadium, and regrets that he will not be able to tell them with joy about the game when he returns home. He was afraid for them in the sense that they have to grow up in a world where people will question them based on the color of his skin.

The main red flag for me was "he eventually moved on". A confrontation does not usually end this way, just slowly dying out.

I also suspect perhaps there was an incident or comment, but that it may not have been about refugees.

Anonymous said...

Tania, you must be a contributing editor to the Truth Voice.

They, around the time you posted your inquiry, found evidence the victims father could be the murderer. These investigative journalists learned that the 54 yr old was charged with forgery in '79 and shoplifting in the early '80s-about the age of the professional investigators/journalists.

To back up their claim, they show exhibit A: a sword blade purchased on Amazon with comments made by the name of the father. What they do not show is the shipping address or payment method. Who hasn't seen packages stolen from porches in the news? Lol!

Now, if they'd just post the medical treatment received by the victim the day before her disappearance they may be able to connect the Tods.

This information, coupled with the continual burglary of the victims apt., the attempted illegal entry of the accused home in which trespassing charges were filed, the vandalism and threats to the victims father's person and place of business, and the threats toward the accused family members-and a visit to a spring shop inquiring about a lift kit on a Jeep- the kidnappers may be easily caught.

Any outfit that has to tell its readers it is the "Truth" needs to be looked at closely when it publishes information so...for lack of a better word:stoogey.

The English dept. and journalism training is failing in every university across America! They are teaching gossip, stalking, terror, and ways to victimize the victims and victimize the accused once they are caged.

Their parents failed them.

tania cadogan said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tania, you must be a contributing editor to the Truth Voice


I am not

Lisa21222 said...

OT:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/14/bill_cosby_sues_seven_women_who_say_he_sexually_assaulted_them_for_defamation.html

I think, in general, most of us are likely to find this surprising, as he could be deposed, and forced to testify under oath.