Monday, December 21, 2015

"For Us, We Have Nothing To Hide"

                   What is my own conclusion in this matter?

Consider the lengthy discussion into the murder of Amanda Blackburn and why this case has caught such interest. 

A young pregnant woman is murdered in a home invasion robbery and with video tape, police announce quickly that the husband is not the shooter and shortly later, criminal thugs are arrested.  

Case closed?

Not so fast.  

When a pregnant woman is killed, especially in her own home, the husband or boyfriend is the statistically most likely killer, but here, with video, the killer is behind bars but interest in the case, instead of subsiding, actually increases the 'who done it' conversation. 

"For us, we have nothing to hide."  Davey Blackburn, on Fox News.  

Instead of saying how it feels to be investigated in answer to the question, Blackburn said it was "hard to swallow" and then added a line that immediately invites new questions:  "For us, we have nothing to hide."  Had he said, "I have nothing to hide" he would have invited 'search' and suspicion, but retreating to the plural, he doubled up on the suspicion, something he had been doing since his first words after her murder.  

The public quickly concluded what Blackburn's mentor would later say:  "Something is wrong with this guy."

Indeed. 

Statement Analysis of his statements issued and then of his interviews showed that Blackburn, in relation to the murder of his wife, is concealing or suppressing information.  His choice of words reveal deception via withholding information.  He uses the language of guilt.  

I have not concluded the source of guilt fully yet, however, basically because interviewers have avoided asking the very same questions they generally ask in murder cases.  Like Steve Doocey's embarrassing pass, they either ignore entirely any connection to the murder, or preface embarrassingly their questions with deference to ministry.  I do have a sense, though, as time has passed and he has spoken out again and again.  

There are various possibilities to the source of guilt which is being hid, but two main themes have emerged. A major difficulty, however, arises in the two: 

I.  Guilt due to prior knowledge of the murder
II.  Guilt over sexuality 

III.  Unknown

Q.  What is this major difficulty with the two?  
A.  The major difficulty is that the circumstances speak to both hypotheses 

I.  Guilt due to prior knowledge of the murder seems to dominate commentators here.  It is the suspicion of many in law enforcement.  Here is why:

a.  The marriage 

The husband's obsession is with numerical success and his wife wanted his attention.  This became very quickly a bad marriage, from the day the honeymoon ended.  He said it got worse when she became pregnant.  She became pregnant again and was murdered. The obsession with numerical success die his interpretation of Scripture to hyper-pragmatism; that is, "whatever it takes" which has led to a very specific choreography.  

b.  The timing 

The murder took place on the very day in which he always goes to the gym and always talks on the phone to the very same person but on this day, as luck would have it, the phone call kept him out of the house for 40 crucial minutes:  40 minutes which had he entered the house, might have led to earlier intervention into stopping the blood flow.  Might remaining outside the house for 40 minutes have cost her her life?

c.  The aftermath

Immediately after the murder, Blackburn showed little linguistic connection to the victims, instead focusing upon his career.  This was of alarm to Fox New, but what stood out more so to analysis is his utter lack of fear of the unknown killer returning to kill his son or himself.  The detached, driven husband's focus was solely on how many people he could get to notice his church through her death.  This was so dominant that he was incapable of stopping himself, even quoting the number of people who came to his church via the internet.  

If this wasn't bad enough, he went on to claim to have a conversation with divinity in which he received the news that his wife died for the church; supplanting Christ's own death, and that he was going to have a church that was so big that it had no historical precedence.  

That he mentioned the specific location of his meeting is significant in Statement Analysis:  the reference to water ("shower") is closely associated with sexual abuse.  That his wife's clothing was removed in her murder is not lost here, but the reference could also be due to his own childhood where he may have been a victim of sexual abuse, bringing him to the conflicting sexuality today. The connection with sexuality and deception is noted.  

The statements made and the behavior both show guilt in relation to the murder of his wife.  Is the source of guilt a prior knowledge of her murder?

This would mean some contact with a local gang where payment is made and low level gang members (kids) are sent out robbing, with the additional duty of murder.  The young gang members would not likely know of any connection and would not give up names of higher ranking gang members.  Better to go to prison silent, then go to prison and be sentenced to death as one who has revealed the information.  This would explain why he had no linguistic expressions of concern for his son, the neighborhood, himself, or for justice for Amanda.  

That he continues to subtly insult the victim also fits both categories:  guilty knowledge, and sexuality.  This adds to the confusion.  

II.  Guilt over sexuality. 

"For us, we have nothing to hide" was said in regard to the fact that police were investigating or looking into his life over Amanda's death.  This is not only to affirm that he has something to hide, but it gives the notion that what is hidden is in relation to someone else, with "we", but this too is then further emphasized, by the use of "us" in his statement. 

In the free editing process, he chose this word in less than a microsecond of time.  Either he needed to hide psychologically with "others", using the plural, or he is specifically thinking of at least one other person.   In either case, he compounds the guilt. 

Is what he has to hide sexuality?

Some of the very things in section one now support section two:  his lack of linguistic connection with Amanda, for example, could be guilt from either.  

It does not, however, explain the lack of fear, nor does it answer to the coincidental nature of the lengthy time on the driveway. 

What does support it?

1.  His self reported history. 

He spoke of a lie in high school that was told in which his parents, teachers, faculty, coaches and even peers abandoned him.  Lies will generally bring condemnation from peers or adults, in high school, but not both.  The only thing I can think of that even friends would not support is a destructive lie about sex.  This may have been severe enough to move to another city, and his father to give up his church and move to another.  

2.  His mentor's statements. 

His mentor not only told us that he recognized something "wrong with that boy" but in a memorial about Amanda, the mentor had Davey on the mind:  he spoke in sexualized terms about Blackburn, physically, as one would speak if sexually attracted.  The mentor qualified this with, "if you're a man you know what I am talking about" (to which men have said that they do not know what he means) to exclude himself as homosexual.  

His mentor's language appears supportive of this.  

3.  His own 'sermons.'

In video taping his messages, Blackburn wears tight fitting shirts, and walks back and forth, choreographing himself as if in a performance, while speaking repeatedly about sex:  specifically communicating to his audience of his great heterosexual sex drive; so much so that his wife, the victim, could not satisfy him.  His drive for sex with aa woman is so great that he said he was incapable of concentrating on dinner conversation.  This is the language of sexual addiction; something many gay men seek help for.  His need to convince his audience that he is a heterosexual is evident.  

4.  The disconnected language. 

Who would not give linguistic connection over the loss of his wife?

a.  One who orchestrated her death;  or...
b.  One who was trapped in a relationship  against his sexuality.  

The deception exists, but is its source guilty knowledge of the crime, or that of sexuality?

Lastly:

Or is it something else?

The Unknown. 

What do readers think?

"For us, we have nothing to hide" is:  

I.   Prior knowledge of her murder

II.  Sexuality 

III.  Something Else either unknown or both?

In either of the two above, his statement, "for us, we have nothing to hide" is specifically why defense attorneys do not let their clients speak.  

Police investigators know that this is something said when the subject is specifically thinking of something he does not wish to be known.  This is no different from a 7 year old boy who harbors a guilty secret. 

The 911 call has not yet been released, and we may see further arrests in this case still, as gang connections are made.   

In either case, he has 'outed' himself with this phrase of hidden guilt, inviting closer inspection.  

I have been long asked my opinion but have yet to give it...this, however, is where I am currently:  

With his additional statements, I think the guilty knowledge is about his personal life that he is hiding, and that Amanda may have known about.    I think a connection to the gang may have been found by now, yet, it is his language that persuades me that this is a co-occuring deception: 

that is a deception that happens during an investigation where the subject is deceptive, but it is about something else, appearing at the  time that creates suspicion. 

That he has been deceptive is clear, but where, and why, have been ongoing questions that I have become more comfortable categorizing with his subsequent statements.  

The 'shower' reference makes this argument stronger.  

With the release of the 911 call, this could change, and it is only an opinion of the source of the withheld information.  

The deception regarding sexuality is his own business.  If he continues to speak publicly and is not involved in the murder,  and his statements are in line with this, I will not be analyzing statements with regards to his sexuality.  





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Anonymous said...

What I find odd beyond DB himself, is that everyone seemed to only talk about Amanda in terms of themselves, not really about her as a fully formed person. Her Mom talked about her in very distancing language, 'that girl never gave her (mom) a moment of trouble'. Dad talked about her in terms of his protecting her as a girl. Nobel talked about her as a fix for CD -- in fact spent most of her memorial talking about him. She was so objectified, I guess it is not that surprising those around her did not notice Davey treating her like an object upon which he projects his issues.

Amy Smith said...

DB has already moved on to dancing and gladness per his latest tweet this morning. Preview to his big Dec 23 Resonate Indy return? He sure got "healthy" quickly.

Pilgrim said...

The only thing that would cause a father/Pastor to shut down a ministry and move to where the family isn't known isn't something as common as sleeping around with girls, but if the boy "comes out of the closet" as a homosexual, THAT would do it. If Amanda wasn't his desire sexually (but to keep up appearances) then getting rid of her and then not speaking affectionately (or in the abstract) are very valid outcomes for a man who doesn't desire women personally or sexually. I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me. Food for thought: WHY did "god" have to speak to a man while naked in the shower? This (to me, anyway) suggests intimacy. As for Davey and his "Holy Spirit" complex, that's another story altogether.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the boy truthfully claimed he had been sexually abused, and then was coerced into retracting it, calling it a "lie", and the devastation / embarrassment to the family was such that they had to move away.

jbb said...

The resonate page now has all the testimonies about Amanda posted. I had not seen it before. Does anyone know how long it's been up? I got there through a Twitter or FB link. It seems to only show for me when I click the Resonate icon/name at top of page. I think this is DB's attempt to show everyone just how much support he has. Many of the people posting the Amanda testimonies also send Davie support, love, prayer, encouragement, etc., so I think he thinks he is outdoing the naysayers.

To me, his guilty knowledge/deception might come from the fact that he knows the gang-banging thugs. He does seem to be awfully amped up in his sermons and drug use definitely crossed me mind--and a lot of other posters have said the same thing. Maybe thugs came to intimidate and collect money. Maybe they mixed up the Blackburn house with the first one they robbed on the culdesac. Don't they all look alike or very similar? The only true coincidence might be that they robbed two houses instead of the intended one--Blackburn house!

He knows something....the "we/us" is too weird and now that I understand what this means in SA, there's no way I could disconnect DB from this murder.

Even if has guilt by association, even if he didn't pull the trigger or "plan" for this to happen, his extreme religious fervor does not surprise me. From what I have seen in this type of Christian, they generally go full boar into finding a "reason by Jesus" to explain everything away. "Giving it to God" couldn't be a more perfect excuse or way to distance himself from this crime for DB. I think his religious zeal in this matter will increase at an almost crazed rate. Can't wait to hear what comes out of his mouth the next time he's on the pulpit. Yeah, ok, "WE" have nothing to hid--who, Davey? YOU and GOD?

ShayShay said...

OFF TOPIC

To those who have read a book on the Ramsey murder case which one would you recommend?

Anonymous said...

I just want it noted that NOT ONLY Gays can have sex addiction but straight people too. Very characteristic of Bipolar Disorder.

Anonymous said...

I would think that even as a gay man, he would have loved her enough as a person and mother of his child to be upset about her murder. If it was only about his sexuality, why wasn't he fearful of the murderer being on the loose?

There is something more to it that we aren't realizing yet. I still wonder about the drug angle, his eyes so seem very shifty. Of course that could be nerves, too, when he is interviewing. I am anxious to see what comes out in his sermon.



JBB said...

@ Amy 10:30

Oh my:-( I just read the Tweet. Davey Blackburn is truly sickening......

DB's daily Tweet for 12/21/2015:
"You have turned for me my mourning into dancing; you have loosed my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness," Ps. 30:11

Anonymous said...

I agree, Anon @ 12:25-

Even if Davey is gay or bi, one would think he would still mourn Amanda's death. She was a person that he lived with, if nothing else. And, the no fear of the killer(s) on the loose seemed very telling, or suspicious, at the least.

-L

Anonymous said...

I grew up in an abusive household, and everything was a secret. I never dared to talk about myself to friends because forbidden to "reveal anything personal" about the family because "it's nobody's business!" When I was DB's age, I was so cut off from myself I couldn't muster a tear in front of others, ever. The message I had always gotten at home was "One must NEVER cry or reveal real emotions of sadness/sorrow/fear/worry in front of others." I'll bet if someone in my family had been murdered I had been interviewed about it at DB's age, I would have had dry eyes, and would have come across as deceptive.

rosy said...

Two foreshadowings of Davey's "God spoke to me in the shower" tactic in his father in law's church occurs in a video he made in February 2015.

I suggest that this is his MO under stress.

An unmade, or sloppily made, bed is visible in the background of the February pep talk video. I suggest that this may function like the reference to the shower in Davey's revelation of contact from God.

Secondly, in this February video Davey already claims that God talks to him, through the page to which his bible chances to open. He laughs about it, he knows this is a superstitious practice. Nonetheless he plants this notion in his viewers' minds.

I don't think he was under the influence of any drug or controlled substance in this earlier video. I think he was under the influence of his own bodily and psychological reactions to high stress.

Why does the unmade bed matter? This video is a pep talk addressed by Davey as leader, or boss, to his team. The aim is keep them engaged and working and believing in him despite a recent setback. He seems oblivious to the norm by which, even if an informal setting might be allowable(considering that he uses coffee shops as his office), an intimate setting is inappropriate for a manager addresses his staff.

The key unspoken factors in this video are 1) his massive disappointment in himself; 2) his refusal to think outside the box he has built so far. He never mentions disappointment in self. He thanks them all for their extreme efforts on behalf of the recent event, says he was disappointed by attendance but, emphatically, "We cannot control people showing up, God controls that. He draws people as he wants to draw people..."

Then comes God speaking to him. He says on Sunday afternoon he was "still hung up on the fact that we didn't see 400 people there." He wished he could have "really celebrated the 16 salvations..." Then, with remarkable detailing:

"Monday morning I opened up my bible, just pulled it out of the bag - out of my backpack - my bible's leather-bound and so, kind of folded some pages up, and I started to unfold the pages, and one of the pages was Philippians One. And, er, it was not what I was going to read in my quiet time, I'm reading Genesis right now, but it was like (hand gestures and eye widening for "Wow" or "Awesome surprise!"). I did what I advise none of you guys to do (laughs) and I was like, I wonder if God wants to tell me something?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbHB3lCY5E from ~2:50- 3:21

God wanted to tell Davey via Phil. 1:3 ("I thank my God every time I remember you") to thank each and every one of his staff. The key was verse 6, "this was where the Lord spoke to me." According to Paul in that verse "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." Davey riffs on this - he and his church are like the Israelites who have just stepped out into the Red Sea .... etc. "Soon as I read that it just stirred my heart... we're the kind of church that BUILDS. ... We're not called to do a Big Bang...." More riff on how so much goes on at Northview school people "WILL see us, will see our vehicle parkers... and they're going to be drawn...."

All the while in the background what the viewer sees is the rumpled bed covering. Does it make any difference, like the shower reference? I think it does.

I think Davey uses inappropriate intimate disclosure, self-baring, as part of the same EXCUSE PROCESS by which he evokes hearing God's voice speaking to his heart or mind. He uses both together to defend against overwhelming sense of failure. He uses both together to distract other people from accusing him of failure. He uses these combined tactics, symbolic bodily exposure and putative spiritual eleveation, to distract others from blaming him for something for which he cannot afford to blame himself lest he fall apart.

rosy said...

Someone asked about "Taylor" in Davey's Shoot Your Worries video.

In the February 2015 pep talk video Davey notes on the positive side of attendance stats, "Taylor Anderson brought five of her friends."

Probably no more relevant that Larry Taylor, but does anyone know of a Taylor Anderson or her friends?

JMTO said...

What bothers me is that those thugs broke into the house next door first- and stayed there. For awhile.

Long enough to loot, drink up, and steal some oranges. They stayed there happy as clams. Almost like they were waiting for something or someone. A cue.

If you just broke into a random house, that no one is home in- I would think you would be in fight or flight mode- not relaxation mode.

1. You just broke in. Criminal.

2. You robbed someone else earlier.
Double burglary if you are caught with materials from first burglary.

3. It's 5am ish- you have no idea when the homeowners left, or when they will be back.

4. Daylight is coming. People will be out and about. Tight knit neighborhood cul de sac. Not recognized car in the drive.
Owners who are away a lot.

So in light of all of these things that would make someone want to take what they can and run- these jack wagons decide to have a party? Relax even????


No - he is involved somehow.
How he's involved I don't know if we will ever know. But he is.

In order for them to be so relaxed they had to know the owners wouldn't be back soon - and that means they had to be tipped off somehow.

I can understand them casing the neighborhood- but there is no way with garages and in door light timers, that they would have known with absolute certainty that they wouldn't be caught.

They had about as much fear as being snuck up on as Davey had fear for his and Weston's well being after Amanda was murdered.

JMTO

Anonymous said...

Two things have bothered me about CD

1- Why would he think "marriage was going to be 100 percent of the time sex feast"?

2- Why does he not talk about the horror of realizing he spent 40 minutes in the driveway while Amanda was dying?

Peter Hyatt said...

As to being homosexual and mourning her death one must consider the context:

His language is that of both guilt and distance. The subtle insults are not only 'justification' in a sense, but they are embittered towards her; insulting.

The burden of secret carrying may even have led him to blame Amanda for homosexuality.

This is a deeply troubled young man and even those of us who, at this point, think what is hidden is sexuality and not association with the gang, would not likely be surprised if he was arrested.

I hope the 911 call sheds more light.

This is a very troubled young man with deep scars and what is likely to be life long deception.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
I grew up in an abusive household, and everything was a secret. I never dared to talk about myself to friends because forbidden to "reveal anything personal" about the family because "it's nobody's business!" When I was DB's age, I was so cut off from myself I couldn't muster a tear in front of others, ever. The message I had always gotten at home was "One must NEVER cry or reveal real emotions of sadness/sorrow/fear/worry in front of others." I'll bet if someone in my family had been murdered I had been interviewed about it at DB's age, I would have had dry eyes, and would have come across as deceptive.


Concealing, or, in this case, suppressing information is a form of deception that is recognized in the speech patterns.

Peter

Anonymous said...

I would like tighten that sack cloth.
Hahaha

Anonymous said...

Yeh - no real frame of reference from which to speak freely and openly about your real actual feelings / experience. Having been silenced - an internal mute (gag) so deep that it prevents access to real feelings, feelings which might be more than one could possibly bear.

rosy said...

JMTO said...
at 1:21 PM
So in light of all of these things that would make someone want to take what they can and run- these jack wagons decide to have a party? Relax even????
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Yes I think they may have been waiting for DB to leave. Need to figure into this that he left later than his usua;l gym schedule (30 mins later? I forget where the reference is for this).

If they are rational and were not totally "messed up," as Larry Taylor claims he was, then your analysis is spot on.

Strengthening your analysis, in the burglary on Nov 3 Watson asked the victim what time her boyfriend was coming home. Despite Taylor crossing the line by raping and continuing to rape after Watson told him to stop (or claimed he did), Watson was time-conscious. They left the apartment before the 10 PM deadline.

Anonymous said...

Peter Hyatt said:

"Concealing, or, in this case, suppressing information is a form of deception that is recognized in the speech patterns."

I see the distinction you are making. A person might be secretive in general, but the pronoun switch happened while being asked direct questions about an event.

rosy said...

Peter Hyatt said...
at 1:27 PM
Concealing, or, in this case, suppressing information is a form of deception that is recognized in the speech patterns.
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I suggest (at at 12:49 PM above) that the rumpled bed in background of the pep talk video February 2015 is a visual display or flashing on a par with reference to the shower in DB's intervention at his father in law's church.

These are forms of indirect communication midway between full concealment (repression) and full disclosure. They are nakedly physical/material factors displayed as mere incidentals in the background of "high" spiritual matters (God spoke to me).

This backgrounding may disguise their prominence in the original trauma which keeps repeating or reenacting whenever stress peaks in the life of the subject (Davey).

mom2many said...

I would be more willing to side on the co-occurring deception side if, two days before the murder, Davey had not preached about a woman in a relationship getting her teeth broken, as Amanda had her tooth knocked out, and demonstrated shooting your worries away, as he had just called 'kids' and 'finances' a worry. My mind just cannot move beyond this level of coincidence to think he had nothing to do with nor any prior knowledge of Amanda's and his unborn child's murders. And THEN, to have the immense poor taste to allow the sermon video to post after the murder, anyway. It is too much.

JMTO said...

On point as always Rosy- I just had the same thought upstairs getting ready to pick my oldest up from school.

Watson had a time restraint.
Why not a time restraint then before Amanda's murder?

Add to that KNOWING Amanda had

1. Weston upstairs

2. Pregnant herself

3. Was home alone, married, pregnant, with a small child

After taking so long at the house next door, how could they not be sure that Davey hadn't forgot something and would be back?

Davey called Amanda, she did not answer, worried about the unlocked door, suspicious vehicle in neighbors drive, etc. and came home to check.

Or just coming back regular time but they have no idea if he left for the day or went to get a coffee.

Would they really be taking as much time as they did?

If they didn't know he wouldn't be back?

That's why I think Davey had something to do with it. There are a lot of other things, not concrete, but I can't wrap my head around this.

Plus how much time he spent talking outside, as if he was stalling, not wanting to go in and see what they did.

If they were messed up- I would think that would heighten the paranoia- but idk.

rosy said...

Blogger Pilgrim said...
at 11:42 AM
The only thing that would cause a father/Pastor to shut down a ministry and move to where the family isn't known isn't something as common as sleeping around with girls, but if the boy "comes out of the closet" as a homosexual, THAT would do it. If Amanda wasn't his desire sexually (but to keep up appearances) then getting rid of her and then not speaking affectionately (or in the abstract) are very valid outcomes for a man who doesn't desire women personally or sexually.
======================
Look at photos of Davey immediately before and after he met Amanda and I think you may see that he transferred toward Amanda an ecstatic "In Love" lit-up facial expression previously shown toward Gavin, her brother-in-law. Gavin was part of the male combo that arranged (or proposed) their marriage.

Amanda taught Davey how to light up his life in a gender appropriate way. She taught him by example how to present himself as photogenic (smile, posture, clothes, hair) along the lines of a male model. She had been taught from early childhood up how to present herself to the camera in gender appropriate fashion according to the tenets of her family's faith (back to her grandparents' generation) while at the same standing beside her sister as a "star" example of Christian happiness passed down.

Amanda was naturally unable to teach Davey how to become gender appropriate on the "macho" or hyper-masculine pattern of her brother and brother-in-law. She herself did not DESIRE that kind of masculinity. She did not shape, mold or direct Davey toward it.

They were happy together up to a certain point.

The lie in high school may have involved retracting a truthful statement. Davey may have actively lit up and responded to what he took to be an approach by a peer or older man of the type he was attracted to later on. This person may have denounced him. Davey may have claimed it was consensual, then retracted it and called that claim a lie.

From then on (if not long before) God was his refuge.

Concerned said...

JMTO at 2:12
The fact that Davey sat in his driveway all that time until his neighbor drove in, then entered his home and called 911 just 5 minutes after she did is the big cherry-coincidence-on-top for me.

I have resigned myself to the fact that we may not know how he was actually involved for a long time but one day, we will. I believe LE has a pretty good idea of how it all cam together; they just have to convince the DA they can get a conviction.

MissStevens said...

I very curious about the high school secret/lie. I feel though it may be unrelated could have valuable information about the murder of his wife. Has anyone dug that up?

Sus said...

I do not think DB is gay. I think he is either, or; or whatever. He is whoever he is, through that period of life.

I cannot express enough what a narcissist is. And DB is a narcissist. If DB looked like and acted like Gavin, that's because he was Gavin. He took on the characteristics Gavin has. When he met Amanda he took on her character, he became her. To be with a narcissist is to be with everything you love about yourself, everything you want...at first.

Somewhere along the line the cracks began to show. DB couldn't be all of Amanda's character. It's obvious from his words it has to do with her REAL AND TRUE relationship with God. DB doesn't have that.

Where I am having a problem absolving DB of involvement is that not only is he using Amanda's death to say, I do get this "stuff." Not only is he declaring God talks to him and gives him a purpose for her death. More disturbing, DB insinuates Amanda needed to be cut out, that she was willing to be. He spoke of Jesus as a master surgeon using a scalpel. That bothers me immensely. That's speaking of cutting out what needs to go, not what needs to heal after.

Sorry to ramble.

Kate said...

I'm not sure how any of Amanda's family or friends can view Davey's sermons and not snatch Weston up in a heartbeat. I've gone through almost all of Davey's vids and when he talks about Weston, it is troubling. If you were to watch one clip with Davey talking about Weston, it's not such a big deal. Combine all of them together and we have -

1. Davey dropping Weston on the ground, but he's just kidding.
2. Davey drugging Weston, but he's just kidding.
3. Davey laughing at Weston's disgust for Carrots, then shows a video with Weston crying. (That one really disturbed me, though they don't show Weston crying, you can hear Weston crying and Davey finds it absolutely amusing.)
4. Davey speaks about Weston playing with a barbie doll on several occasions and talks about spanking him, but he's just kidding.
5. Davey talks about Weston possibly being developmentally delayed and states (at the time) Weston couldn't clap, all he could do is hit himself in the face and Davey mocks this.

Although Davey seems to show more love regarding Weston, he still doesn't have that connection. He speaks about Weston sobbing his eyes out until Amanda took Weston out of Davey's arms, only then did Weston stop crying and boy oh boy did that hurt Davey's ego. I'm sure along with everything else, Davey was extremely jealous of Amanda and Westons relationship.

If Davey is never arrested, if Davey gets to continue on with his life as usual, at the very least I really hope someone is checking in on Weston on a regular basis. Heavy prayers out for Weston, he is going to need all he can get.

rosy said...

Sus saod....
at 3:00 PM

I cannot express enough what a narcissist is. And DB is a narcissist. If DB looked like and acted like Gavin, that's because he was Gavin. He took on the characteristics Gavin has.
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Sus I don't think he looks like Gavin. Impossible for him to do so. On the contrary, as a young man (19/20) he was smitten by/with Gavin. He responded to Gavin's type of masculinity:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502422091358&set=a.502334916058.2000087.141700116&type=3&theate

Peter Hyatt said...

Mom2many, and others...

It is a difficult position for me to claim that what he is hiding is related to sexual activity on his part, as the arguments for him to be associated with the actual murder are strong.

I recognize this and have struggled with the source of guilt and withheld (suppressed, really) information. There is so much, linguistically, that points to sex.

As to being only narcissistic, this is closely related to pleasing oneself and sexual addition would fit.

Much discussion is missing due to an environment where opinions are not 'politically correct', which I also recognize.

What he is hiding has likely been 'in play' since high school.

Peter

BB said...

1. We (everybody speculating wildly!) have no idea what the secret in high school was. It could be ANYTHING. It could be nothing. He could have made it up for the sake of a sermon. It could be something super minor that a high schooler and a narcissist who got caught in a lie would blow out of proportion. It could be typical teenage crap: Cheating on a test, drinking, skipping school etc. that can feel like the end of the world, but isn't really in the grand scheme of things.

Also...Pastors get moved around a lot, but don't move churches of their own free will very often! Being a pastor is a calling and you make the sacrifice and go where the leadership sends you. That's how it is. Seems more likely to me that dad got a different "assignment." That seems to be suggested by the commentary on how upset the family was...

2. I do not buy co-occuring guilt. All of the hinky is related to the fact that he boldly and obviously displayed disdain for her and wanted her gone. All his videos/sermons/social media documentation in advance reveals (not on purpose) that he looked forward to it and planned it strategically. He went to great lengths to document their "love story" via social media ahead of time. It is all fake and shallow.

3. No way he is not involved. No way.

4. His connection to the trigger man/gang scumbag thieves is truly, inexplicably odd, but simply HAS to exist somehow.

rosy said...

Anonymous Kate said...
at 3:10 PM
I really hope someone is checking in on Weston on a regular basis. Heavy prayers out for Weston, he is going to need all he can get.
===============

Add to your list,

Davey cycling with Weston on the back of the bike, neither of them wearing helmets. Oct 5 2015
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn

Davey putdown of Weston similar to Amanda not "well-read," with photo of him playing with a building toy in the library" "I was really hoping his first trip to the library would begin a life-long love affair with books. Oh well." Twitter Oct 24
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn

Concerned said...

The high school lie that caused such across-the-board disdain for Davey is a "conundrum", isn't it?
Before the Jerry Sandusky case, I didn't know or consider that men's gym showers were wide open scenes of naked horseplay. I still don't know if that's true but it has made me wonder if Davey accused someone...perhaps a coach....of doing something inappropriate in the gym shower. If the wronged person from the lie was a coach, that could explain kids, teachers, admin and, of course, coaches dissing Davey. I guess something like that could also contribute to Davey's troubling gym comments?

Anonymous said...

I have to start with the caveat that I think "he's innocent until proven guilty" and I think it's unfair to speculate without evidence. So my comments are only based on what I do know of the situation and his public comments before and after. I give them only in the spirit that this is a message board for sussing-out meaning from statements - and that this is a mere possibility. And frankly not likely...

Could the language of deception be from him somehow knowing she was on the floor, hurt, and doing nothing about it on purpose? Like: did he simply walk in, and then walk right back out and sit it out for a while - for myriad reasons? There is no evidence to suggest this happened.

M said...

Lynday - Have you gotten a response from LE yet?

M said...

Lynda not Lynday

M said...

Anon at 3:33 - except for the fact that he got off the phone at 8:18 and didn't call 911 for 4 minutes. Set your timer for 4 minutes. It's a loooooonnnng time.

rosy said...

Links for davey & weston photos. He treats Weston as an accessory to his own lifestyle.

1) the child, sans helmet, is trying to hold on. Davey jokes about the child giving him a wedgie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQjTTm7WsAAPrIY.jpg:large

2) child playing with construction toy (most parents would be proud):
I was really hoping his first trip to the library would begin a life-long love affair with books. Oh well . . .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSFrIpjXAAAIdXC.jpg:large

Concerned said...

Kate at 3:10
Well done list!
I would also add that when a father is asked what he loves about his son, so many things would come to mind, but never, never would a father say the best thing is that he sleeps all the time...12 hours at night and two 1 & 1/2 to 2 hour naps.
So, rarely seeing Weston is Davey's favorite thing about him.


BB at 3:25
I too am convinced Davey is involved.
Regarding his ties with the gang, I go back to Davey being Facebook friends with Treezey until the day that fact was mentioned in the comments here. Then...whoops!...one of them decided to unfriend the other.
Before Davey friended Treezey or accepted him as friend (whichever!), he only needed to look through a few posts to find he might not want to cozy up to someone so dangerous.

rosy said...

Anonymous Concerned said...
at 3:31 PM
The high school lie that caused such across-the-board disdain for Davey is a "conundrum", isn't it?
Before the Jerry Sandusky case, I didn't know or consider that men's gym showers were wide open scenes of naked horseplay. I still don't know if that's true but it has made me wonder if Davey accused someone...perhaps a coach....of doing something inappropriate in the gym shower. If the wronged person from the lie was a coach, that could explain kids, teachers, admin and, of course, coaches dissing Davey. I guess something like that could also contribute to Davey's troubling gym comments?
============================

Maybe I'm the only person here who thinks this but I surmise that the big "lie" was in fact true, and Davey was forced to retract it, so his parents moved. From then on Davey felt a compulsion to re-acknowledge this situation but allowed himself to be convinced and to convince himself that he had lied. I would hazard, he did lie, by retracting the truth.

Check out the trailer and/or first episode of American Crime season 2 and the sentence "You need to very careful with that word." As it happens, the story line is loosely based on events in Indianapolis in 2013. It was filmed in Austin TX but set in Indianapolis. It's a story that has happened all over the USA.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=american+crime+trailer&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

rosy said...

Better link for American Crime "You need to be very careful with that word"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okDHhCKMSNY

rosy said...

OT (slightly):

Indianapolis gymnastics coach Marvin Sharp died of suffocation

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/12/21/indianapolis-gymnastics-coach-marvin-sharpe-died-suffocation/77691840/

Anon "I" said...

The children of pastor's have extraordinary stress placed upon them to be the perfect little angels that are the product of a Godly family. Many go the other direction at break-neck speed once they have opportunity as a way of rebelling. Both DB and AB were both pastor's kids. It seems AB was forever the good girl who was praised and I bet DB resented that he couldn't measure up to that standard. He couldn't even fake it properly next to AB's abiding love for Jesus.

I do wonder if DB wouldn't be more than relieved if one side of the family took Weston and cared for him. That would accomplish two things. It would take the burden of caring for his son 24/7 off of him and it would free him to further pursue and harness his ideal congregation. He needs to be free to use his talents for his god (hint, hint to the grandparents...) Although he is damaging to the butts in seats, at least they can evaluate his rhetoric for themselves. Weston is totally dependent and at DB's mercy.

Oh, and OT:

Josh Duggar's wife plans to stay with him. I recognized this when she first said how much denial she had as to his horrible lies and activities, but ended up saying it was the road "we have to travel" or something like that... She immediately gave away that they were still a "we." Sure enough, today I read where she is staying to keep her vow to God and to her husband. 'Til death do us part might take on a new meaning if I was her and was exposed to who knows what diseases as he played Russian Roulette with her (and her unborn's/kids) health. But, then I wouldn't have to kill him, I'd just divorcee so fast his head would still be spinning 6 months from now. There is no way I would allow him anywhere near ANY children ever again.

Bobcat said...

Anon 11:55 - I agree!
Rosy 2:20 - Yes!
Peter - Yes, deeply disturbed.

I think the deception includes BOTH guilty knowledge AND sexuality.

This is a tragic case - sadly the only type that brings me to Peter's blog.
I think I'll ready more of his SA on politicians just for fun!

Anonymous said...

Davey, did your cousin hurt you? The wrestling champ you couldn't get away from?

2011: "I was a pretty lean, mean machine back then. Now I'm just mean."

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 10:12 AM
What I find odd beyond DB himself, is that everyone seemed to only talk about Amanda in terms of themselves, not really about her as a fully formed person.
===================

This is part of the culture imposed from early childhood up and outwardly accepted by the women within the fold. Yet outward signs can be deceptive. Reality is more complex. For example take Amanda's sister, a registered nurse with a Bachelor of Science in Nursing. She has worked as a hospital nurse since 2008. She is the mother of 3 small children. She is a strong woman in her own right. She is one of the people close to Amanda who viewed Amanda as an ideal:

"Amanda is original in EVERY way. She always has been for as long as I can remember. She loves to be unique. It's WHO she is. She doesn't EVER go with the flow. In fact, she makes it her goal to go against the grain just to be different. She stands out. She can't help it. People are drawn to her stand - not only for Jesus - but WHATEVER she chooses to stand for. She stands unapologetically and with confidence. She does NOT care what people think when it comes to - well, anything. She never lets what others think of her influence her decision-making. She does the right thing. Always. She hungers and thirsts for righteousness. She's a trend-setter. She doesn't want to be like anyone else - except Jesus. She's authentic. She draws people in by her sincerity. She's real - never fake. What you see is what you get. She's not a people-pleaser. She speaks truth - sometimes hard truth - but always in love. She loves everyone. No matter who you are."

Concerned said...

I saw on Kenneth Wagner's Twitter recently an announcement that his plant was large enough to now need two identical services. I thought I once saw here that he was up to 400 "members/owners/whatever".
I suppose that's why Davey was so disappointed the day he had less than the 400 he wanted for a special "service" (while blowing off the 16 who accepted Christ).
I'm convinced that part of what made him lose it was hearing every Tuesday about the booming success of Kenneth's Delaware plant. I don't know anything about Kenneth's wife but I'm guessing she was a slingshot?

Anon "I" said...

BB: Pastors are also moved around to tamp down conflicts, infidelity, molestation, crime, etc. At times, its because the church is sweeping things under the rug for legal/loyalty/to avoid a scandal/financial reasons, etc., and information doesn't always necessarily transmit easily to a new congregation.

I got the impression that they moved BECAUSE of DB. That would have to be a hum-dinger of a reason that would affect even his father's career. Did he have trouble when he was older communicating and relating to his family and AB helped smooth some of that over, or am I mixing this up with another case? Please and thank-you if you can remember. :)

Bobcat: I agree with you. It doesn't have to be an either/or. It could just as easily be both reasons and then some.


It seems like DB is using the rope provided. Keep doling it out and he'll keep talking until he convicts himself.

Anonymous said...

Wow, those comments about Weston really shine more light into Davey's character. Because the Weston comments and pictures (w/o the helmet) are sprinkled everywhere you don't quite catch it at first. He used Amanda and Weston as just props for his stories.

An other note...remember before the killer was caught and in an interview he was asked if he had any idea who could have done this and he said "I don't know, Amanda doesn't have an enemy in the world". Why would he automatically assume this horrific crime came about because of an enemy of HER'S?? He disconnected himself so quickly from this tragedy. That type of comment was like it came from some long distant neighbor on a different block, and not seeing the actual condition she was in. A better answer would have been "I have no idea, but there is a psychotic killer on the lose and people need to be on guard!"

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 11:55 AM

belated acknowledgement, yes! I'm not so sure about calling the (hypothesized) situation sexual abuse. Maybe, or it may have been sexual activity or consensual homoerotic activity.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 4:41 PM
he was asked if he had any idea who could have done this and he said "I don't know, Amanda doesn't have an enemy in the world". Why would he automatically assume this horrific crime came about because of an enemy of HER'S??
===========
Yes, why assume she was targeted in any way, why not assume she was killed because unknown home invaders happened to find her in the house, in their way.

The question from FOX was designed I think to put him off stride. At that early stage FOX still treated him as a possible prime suspect.

Anonymous said...

Peter, I appreciate very much all that you share--it's incredibly helpful and fascinating and sharpens my thinking far beyond just the individual situations you write about. Thank you.

I appreciate also how thorough and careful you are with facts and with conclusions, and that you welcome discussion.

If DB's guilt is not because he has any association or knowledge of Amanda's murder, these are some of the coincidences and questions that come to mind. I know these have been mentioned by you and others, I'm sure there are more that could be added:

1) Of all the neighborhoods in Indianapolis, the suspects drove a significant distance from their first burglary and randomly chose this street;
2) Then, of all the houses on this street, they break into the one house known to be frequently unoccupied, where they hang out and drink for a surprising period of time;
3) Next, of all the rest of the houses on this random street, once they leave the unoccupied house, they choose the Blackburn house and walk right up to the front door, which just happens to be unlocked;
4) Amazingly, they arrive at just the time of day when the man of the house (who owns a gun) will be gone;
5) On this random day, DB just happens to be running late, plus sits in the driveway to finish a call;
6) Of all the victims they could have chosen to murder, they happen to choose one who's husband is so disconnected from her that he doesn't appear to grieve at all, makes no mention in his initial statement of finding comfort that she is now in Heaven, and makes no reference to his unborn child;
7) DB is completely unafraid of the killers returning to harm him, his son, or his neighbors, or any other random victims;
8) DB is not just seemingly free from grief in the death of his wife and unborn child, he is apparently unfazed by the traumatic, violent scene he found in his home. There is no sense of fear, violation, or shock.

The cumulative weight of these coincidences and the astronomical odds they represent are astounding to contemplate if DB is not involved.

Random observation and questions:

1) DB did early interviews alone, but soon his father-in-law joined him. In one of their earliest interviews, where they sit beside each other, I was struck by the contrast of PB's open solid posture and DB's posture which was closed with legs crossed, one arm held across his body, one hand tucked between his legs and gripping a leg, and one hand gripping his arm. http://whns.images.worldnow.com/images/9326739_G.jpg
2) If DB's guilt arises from something not connected to the murder, how does the element of humiliating Amanda's father in his own church fit in? DB interrupted PB's final call and prayer (as a preacher himself, DB understood how this interruption would impact the momentum and appeal that PB had been building toward the entire service), and then boldly insulted PB and his church members. Why did he do that and what did that fulfill inside him? KM

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 5:30 PM

DB did early interviews alone, but soon his father-in-law joined him.
-----------------
Quick footnote on this: From what PB said in one of his church services, he did not seek interviews. He was asked to drive down from Elkhart to S. Carolina overnight to do interviews that Perry Noble set up with national media. The fullest was done by a local (Indiana) FOX affiliate who flew down to SC for the occasion.

So for Davey too, that set of interviews was done on Perry Noble's turf and orchestrated by Perry Noble.

Sherrie Johnson said...

Quite true. I personally did not perceive the comments made in the article to imply sex addiction is in any way linked to "just" gay people. However, those who are sensitive to the subject may have. I can see that.

Also note-worthy, as sex addiction relates to Bipolar Disorder: the characteristic is addictive personality and it manifests itself in the sufferers addiction of choice. Usually something that can be obtained without too much suffering. Although, as the addiction grows, the sufferer will continue to give up more and more to get their next fix.

The addiction comes from deriving pleasure from something, something to ease the pain and that can be used to "take you away." Therefore, statistically Bipolar Disorder or most of the Personality Disorder's will have co-morbids that are some form of addiction. Sex addiction being one that is easily used to self-medicate because for quite some time while a person is building their addiction, having a sexual relationship with some one or some others is quite the norm in our society. So the signs of it being an addiction can remain quite hidden for some time. Unlike, drugs, shopping, alcohol, etc... they become obvious to the sufferer and those around him/her a lot sooner than a sex addiction does.

Just my 2 cents, since we are making the comments clear to readers. Mental Health Awareness in our society is quite lacking and I would hate for readers to associate Bipolar Disorder to sex addiction, as if they go hand-in-hand; as you did not wish for readers to associate gay and a sex addiction to go hand-in-hand.

Bobcat said...

We'll probably never know for sure, but I think Davey watched Amanda bleed while on the phone.

Kate said...

rosy said...
Add to your list,

Davey cycling with Weston on the back of the bike, neither of them wearing helmets. Oct 5 2015
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn

Davey putdown of Weston similar to Amanda not "well-read," with photo of him playing with a building toy in the library" "I was really hoping his first trip to the library would begin a life-long love affair with books. Oh well." Twitter Oct 24
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn
December 21, 2015 at 3:26 PM
..............................................................

Kind words coming out of Davey Blackburn's mouth are few and far between, which would be okay if he was a regular Joe, but since he's supposed to be a Pastor, one would think his words would be chosen carefully and that he would have some type of filter, but he has none.

These are things we know about, I can't imagine what we don't know. He is one sick bastard, in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

OT Does anyone esle see similarities between Davey Blackburn and Tyler Deaton?


Tyler Deaton,the cult leader and Bethany marry.
Bethany is found dead in her car 10 weeks later.
The investigator rules it a suicide. Tyler, like Davey, does not use words of sorrow.
Micah Moore, a member of the cult, confesses to killing her. He was allegedly ordered by her husband, the cult leader. Moore recants his confession.
Deaton denies any involvement in his wife's murder. He has not issued a reliable denial.


Transcript:
https://thecosmiccathedral.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/fall-from-grace-48-hours.pdf


CBS new with quotes
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-the-mysterious-death-of-bethany-deaton/

Rolling stone article
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/love-and-death-in-the-house-of-prayer-20140121

Tyler Deaton denies his relationship with wife as "murderous" (his choice of word)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963353/I-affect-people-Alleged-cult-leader-laughs-denies-killing-wife-case-remains-mystery-two-years-dead-minivan-appeared-suicide.html


What 48 hours didn't tell you about Micah Moore
https://thecosmiccathedral.wordpress.com/2015/02/25/what-48-hours-didnt-tell-you-about-micah-moore/

Amy Smith said...

Yes. Tyler Deaton quickly came to mind.

Amy Smith said...

And Matt Baker in Waco

Anonymous said...

And Tyler Beaton struggled with his sexuality, first trying to suppress his gay desires...

Anonymous said...

Oh yes,
Matt Baker, except th case is closed and he's been sentenced...

Anonymous said...

OT- Tyler Bethany Deaton case

Would someone commit suicide:
-sitting in the back seat of their car?
-write a suicide note that starts off with My name is....

My name is Bethany Deaton. I chose this evil thing. I did it because I wouldn’t be a real person and what is the point of living if it is too late for that? I wish I had chosen differently a long time ago. I knew it all and refused to listen. Maybe Jesus will still save me.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Sherrie. I thought bi-polar from the get go but reluctant to say so as there are many armchair psychiatrists here.I based it on a man I once knew who was like DB...constantly proselytizing.

He was a kind old man. A bail bondsman. Some one sought to make me think he was after me as they would leave literature like his.He helped me during a tragedy and called frequently. In fact, he replaced my Bible...a bad thing for someone wanting to rid the world of Bible thumpers and get more people involved in their causes. However, I checked and they did not match.
Later, several years later, his wife told me what was wrong with him. He'd became severely depressed when before he'd always been upbeat...more than the culture could stand.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe the police are even looking at him. The only ones interested in him are Internet sleuths and those wishing to beat someone down when they are already down, and of course, those that jump on the bandwagon like grown up gang bangers.
Of course, mayhem instigators conducting research to cull out the population as to fit their agendas.

Girasol said...

rosy @ 5.42

I had forgotten about this - and now I think about it again, it seems very strange - why would PN orchestrate all this, and why on his home turf? Why "recall" DB like this, dragging him away from his local context, as if PN demand trumps anything else that might be necessary locally in Indy (time with church members, family-in-law, Weston). Why couldn't it have been done in Indy? OK, brand control, but so sudden, strong and soon?

Also an unrelated point, but I'm hoping maybe someone remembers - wasn't there some statement about DB father being on the scene in Indy quite early - at the house even? Or was that PB?

Girasol said...

Anonymous @ 6.10

Tyler has always seemed more sinister to me, where DB seems desperate but in a. insecure, goofy, try-hard kind of way. Hungry for recognition and approval but lacking the charisma that might naturally attract it.

Concerned said...

Donae Mitchell on Facebook today...
Fasho I just feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Don't nobody feel my pain even the one person I thought really had my back against me right now. I'm always the bad guy. Feeling like everyone would be better without me. For real.

I hate to see anyone so miserable but Donae might be the one most likely to spill some truth about Amanda's death.

M said...

LYNDA!

(I feel like I am in a crowd and need to shout to get your attention.)

Did you get a response from LE?

M said...

or was it AMY?!

Who called out the poster about the response from LE?

rosy said...

Girasol said....
at 7:43 PM

Davey's father or both parents may have arrived at the hospital sooner than Amanda's parents and other family. PB, wife and some other family members were in California, had to fly back and drive from Chicago.

Davey's father, in a sermon at his church, recalled going from the hospital to the house to pick up something needed at the hospital, maybe on the 11th. Neighbors met him and escorted him through media outside the house. He said the Christmas tree was up and he was moved by how much it all looked like Amanda.

Anonymous said...

Davey left Shades Valley High School in Birmingham, Alabama in 2003 as a junior. He then went to Tuscaloosa County High School in Tuscaloosa, Alabama his senior year. Surely, there are alumni from the 2003 graduating class of Shades Valley that new Davey and the lie? There was one year difference between Davey and the seniors. Classmates.com hmmm.....

Anonymous said...

Davey graduated from Tuscaloosa County High School in 2004

Concerned said...

This makes me uncomfortable to type but I'd like to know your thoughts on this:
The PC on the November 3 crime says Taylor first raped the victim with his finger, then the vibrator, then with his penis.
I'm guessing he was first concerned about leaving DNA, then just went for it in the end.
He knew he was leaving DNA but he didn't kill the victim. If he was so set on murdering someone, why not her?

Yet in Amanda's attack, he (supposedly) says he shot her to keep her from scratching him and I'm guessing he did it so there would be no DNA. If caught, he would only be charged with robbery and these thugs don't do much time for that.
Why did he completely change his MO with this one? Why murder her knowing he would get life in prison if caught?

I know I'm one of the few here who still thinks Davey might have shot Amanda before leaving for the gym.
Even if I venture from that theory, I just don't see these guys killing her without instructions (and payment) to do it.

Anonymous said...

I read the article about Davey's Dad going back to their house after the shooting. (Sorry I do not have a link). What struck me as odd was it sounded like he was there for quite a while searching for some thing(s). What was he looking for that took so long to find? The first thing I thought of, was did he search for a private journal of Amanda's? But, that is just speculation on my part.

Also, this is OT, and doesn't pertain to the case, but Davey was an 8th grade baseball coach this year. Here is a message he wrote to the parents:

https://www.smore.com/dkv2f-eastwood-athletics I did a search of the phone number he has listed, but nothing came up.

letter from our 8th grade baseball coach - davey blackburn
Hello Parents!
First of all I just want to say that it is an honor to be able to coach Eastwood baseball again this year. We’ve had some massive transition take place in the athletic department over the last year and we’re really excited about the direction we’re headed! We feel like with Jamie Tutin at the helm and the great coaching staff he’s put together in all sports, Eastwood will soon become a staple in Indianapolis sports!
A little about me: I played baseball on scholarship for 4 years at Southern Wesleyan University in Central, SC. After graduating college, I became a youth pastor at a church in Anderson, SC called NewSpring Church. 3 years ago, my wife Amanda and I moved here to Indy to plant a church called Resonate Church (resonateindy.com). We’ve been highly involved in the life of the Eastwood community since we moved here. We just had our first little boy, Weston James, back in July and we’re enjoying every bit of that!
I have a couple goals for your son this season. First and foremost I want him to become the best person he can be. I want to help instill character, integrity, perseverance, and the grit required to be successful on and off the baseball field. Secondly I want to coach him up in the fundamentals of the game so he can have the best chance possible to play at the next level. My experience and interactions on and off the baseball field growing up really helped shaped who am I today. Doug Vinton, a teacher here at Eastwood, will be coaching the 7th grade team and we’re really excited about partnering with you in the shaping process of your son!
I wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page about when we’re cranking up the season and how we’re doing it. The reality is not everyone who comes out for the team will be on roster, but we want to give your son the best shot to show off his ability and potential. Because of that we’re going to do things a little differently than we have in the past. Please refer to the practice schedule and instructions on the next page for more details.
We will hold a parent meeting after selections have been made to give you the game schedule.
Thank you guys again! I’ve included my contact info if you need to get in touch with me! Would you each do me a favor and send me an email so I can begin compiling a contact list to better communicate to you! Look forward to meeting each one of you if I haven’t already!

Davey Blackburn – 8th Grade Coach
Cell Phone: 864-552-0126
Email: davey.blackburn@resonateindy.com

Kate said...

Rosy, weren't Amanda's parents and one or two of the kids on vacation as well?

rosy said...

Kate said...

Rosy, weren't Amanda's parents and one or two of the kids on vacation as well?

December 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM
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Yes, at Yosemite, visiting California family with the new grandchild. Mentioned in a sermon.

tg said...

to KM @ 530pm

Excellent points, especially points 7 and 8.

On pastors who kill, there was also the "sinister minister" who killed two wives - A.B. Schirmer.

I hope someone is able to reach out to Donae..quickly.

Kate said...

Rosy - Thank you. Do you remember if either Amber or James were along? Pretty sure James was, but can't remember if Amber was.

Seek Justice said...

What about their gun and her phone? She couldn't get to either one? Does anyone think DB could have taken one or both with him in his car and put them back when he got home? I find it curious that her phone was upstairs on the night stand by the bed. Usually if you are up for the day and downstairs you take your phone with you. Could AB possibly have heard something and come downstairs thinking it was DB? Not sure why else you would come downstairs if you just heard noises and didn't know who it was?

rosy said...

Davey's father's mention of the home visit incident comes up at around 36 mins 40 secs into the sermon called "Weathered Willow," 11/22/15, on this page below. Audio (open with Windows Media player or similar).

"While we were still at the hospital and they had just pronounced Amanda Grace... there was something at the house...."

http://nextchurchnc.net/media.php?pageID=6&view=mobile#3

Anonymous said...

How ironic...Davey helped found a group called "Kill Apathy" on Southern Weslayan's campus.

https://www.causes.com/causes/35964-kill-apathy/members


And although probably not linked at all, there are two members in the group with the last name of Watson: Joshua and Daniel.

rosy said...

Kate said...
at 9.01 PM

Amanda's parents were at Yosemite with their son and daughter-in-law, James & Angela Byars.

M said...

Okay - I figured it out. On 12/19 Lynda contacted (not sure if she called or emailed) Kendale Adams. He's with media relations for IMPD.

Lynda - did you get a response from him? Did he say that they are absolutely not looking at DB for any reason?

Kate said...

Thanks Rosy, I just found this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUO10inFl7o I think Amber was along as well? It's at the :50 second mark.

This only interests me because if both Amanda's brother and sister were along for the trip, why wasn't Amanda. Also, any survivor's guilt by having two of your three children with you. It would be right up Davey's alley to have the entire family called back from their trip, any feelings of jealousy maybe?

M said...

Kate - but how convenient that the were far enough away that they couldn't get to the house too soon.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at at 8:16 PM and 8:17 PM
-------------

Baseball, 2 queries, can someone help me understand?

Do most high schools have baseball teams?

Davey's sport in college and down to the present is baseball. Did he play it in high school? He was a junior at Shades Valley High School in Birmingham, Alabama in 2003. That yearbook, online at classmates.com, seems to make no mention of any baseball teams.

In 2004 Davey moved to Tuscaloosa High School. Unfortunately, classmates.com does not show yearbooks that recent for that school.

Anonymous said...

Yes. All high schools here have baseball teams, especially high schools of that size. However, I'm thinking that the Tuscaloosa County classmates might not know as much about the lie as the school Davey left in 2003, Shades Valley. I will try to copy an article from al.com.

Anonymous said...

He played at Shades Valley High School.

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/11/indianapolis_pastor_whose_wife.html


Scroll down in the article and there is a picture of him playing.

Anonymous said...

This Tuscaloosa HS page lists previous students/baseball players who went on to play college and/or professional baseball. Davey is listed with '03 players:

http://www.post34baseball.com/Former_Players_Still_Playin.html

rosy said...

Baseball, #2 of my 2 queries, or maybe it's a comment:

Does anyone else sense anything odd in the way Davey ties his church to a middle school auditorium while at the same time coaching 8th grade (middle school) baseball?

His determination to keep Resonate in that auditorium may have frustrated his ambition for growing the church. His pep talk videos to his church team don't give a full picture of pros and cons from the team's side. But listening to his side it sounds like he persistently argued against suggestions to look for another venue.

I wonder how many Indianapolis churches use school auditoriums.

Anonymous said...

Whoops, my post at 9:57 is a link to "Post 34," which I think is an American Legion team, not high school?

Anonymous said...

Here it is!
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/11/indianapolis_pastor_whose_wife.html

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 9:56 and 9:57 PM

Thanks! I did know he went to Southern Wesleyan University on a baseball (or athletics) scholarship.

Kate said...

M - Never thought about that angle! Yes, very convenient as well.....

GeekRad said...

Anon at 7:34, I agree. I don't think LE is looking at Davey either. I hope I am wrong and will be gleefully shouting it if I am. let has gangsters in custody, DNA and surveillance images. They have DNA from the rape of another victim. They have a huge crime problem and no one local of family (that we of) asking them to look at the insane pastor. They have their case, imo, and won't put effort into Davey. With the new rape evidence even the defense attorneys will have a huge challenge. Reasonable doubt is easy with juries who can't seem to put two plus two together. I hope I am wrong!!!

rosy said...

Anonymous Kate said...
at 9:39 PM
Thanks Rosy, I just found this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUO10inFl7o I think Amber was along as well? It's at the :50 second mark.
This only interests me because if both Amanda's brother and sister were along for the trip, why wasn't Amanda.
============

You're right, Amber was on the trip with her baby son Rowen. Gavin stayed home.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how similar Davey's Christmas sermon will be to the one Levi Lusko gave right after his little girl died.

GeekRad said...

I meant LE has gangsters

rosy said...

GeekRad said...
at 10:33
Anon at 7:34
================

I agree, LE are not looking.

Maggie said...

GeekRad,
Unfortunately, I'm starting to believe you're right. I read that the authorities didn't seem to be investigating Scott Peterson either, but Modesto CA probably had a lot less crime than Indianapolis so more time and manpower. Indie has far too many unsolved crimes, so this one, with the gangbangers wrapped in a bow is a feather in their cap (regardless of the truth).

Hope we're both wrong.

kristi hurley said...
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BB said...

It isn't unusual for churches, especially new ones, to meet in schools around Indy. That didn't seem odd at all to me.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, it appears that if family and close friends don't press LE for more answers, they don't pursue obvious leads. Amanda's family and friends have let her down because they are drinking the Kool-Aid.

Bobcat said...

Yes another convenient coincidence that Amanda's immediate family (except for Davey's favorite buddy Gavin) are all out of town.

Kendale Adams was led by hand into the police system starting at NORTH CENTRAL high school.
http://www.ibj.com/articles/39249-2013-forty-under-40-kendale-adams

He was also part of an unsuccessful lawsuit against the city of Indianapolis:
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1656450.html

rosy said...

Am I looking in the wrong places - I can't find Resonate Church listed in directories such as Yellow pages listing of "Indianapolis churches," Business list of Indianapolis churches, or usachurches.org. Why would they not list themselves if they are aiming to attract more visitors?

So far I've found one other church that holds services in a (high) school, and over 300 that do not out of over 1500 (according to Yellow Pages church listings). I'm not pursuing it further.

Anonymous said...

Now he's tweeting to Steven Furtick's church.

rosy said...

Why does he not follow @kennethwagner? Kenneth follows him.

lynda said...

M and whoever else was wondering...I sent an email to Kendale Adams, the public relations officer for the police dept. It stated:
to kendale.adams
Mr. Adams.. On a blog I read, a poster on there stated you told her "Our investigators are looking at many possibilities but one they are not is the husband ."

Is this a true statement? If so, why would you tell a civilian that and have her post it all over. So if someone has a legitmate tip that implicated Mr. Blackburn in having a hand in the events of the morning his wife was murdered, they should just not bother letting LE know because you won't investigate? I would like an answer please. Thank you..

I have removed my full name from the emails.

I also did a quick little search on him. He is HEAVILY involved in his "non-denominational" church and is also a "mentor" of the church. His FB is completely open (having been married to a cop, this is odd..they usually do not want ANYONE knowing what they do, where they go, etc.) and he is openly Christian and seems to be very active in promoting young black lives, million man march, etc. Nothing wrong with any of this..just stating fact.

First response from him..

Adams, Kendale
Dec 19 (3 days ago)

to me
Happy holidays! As you can see from this automatic reply, I'm out of the office until January 4, 2016 on a much needed vacation! I will have limited access to email therefore responses will be delayed. If you need immediate assistance, please contact the Media Relations Office at (317) 327-3424.


continued on next post..

lynda said...

continued...

This email then came less than an hour later so I guess he sat down at home and wrote it out taking time from his vacation.

Adams, Kendale
Dec 19 (3 days ago)

to me
Hello (removed my full name) and thank you for the email.

This particular investigation yielded many request for comments and/or information. As with any investigation our office works directly with our investigators to determine what information should be released. Much of this belief that the husband is involved is pure speculation and sensationalism brought on by notational media outlets to increase viewership.

Our number one priority is the identification and apprehension of suspects in these types of investigations. Having said that, our investigators made it very clear to our office that the husband was and is not being considered as a suspect based on investigative information available to them. these types of investigations remain active, and should new information develop that leads our detectives to a different conclusion we would communicate that at the appropriate time." Currently, no investigative link has ever been established to implicate the husband. Our investigators have made two key arrests on this case and that has not changed since my original statement.

I hope this provides some clarification to your question. If not, please ensure you let me know. Our investigators will track down all and every information available to them, however our investigators are privy to information not in the public domain. We will never deter someone from coming forward with additional information but to date that has not happened.

Respectfully submitted,

Kendale Adams
Sergeant - Media Relations
Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department
Department of Public Safety
50 N. Alabama St. T-120
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 327 - 3730 direct
(317) 327 - 3424 office
(317) 775 - 1539 mobile
kendale.adams@indy.gov
IMPD Leadership Academy 2011-01
Southern Police Institute #133

****************************************

Isn't it interesting that he slams the media with pure speculation to increase viewership when the media (except for FOX) has handled him with kid gloves? Plus, he himself, is in the media.
So, my take on this is that nobody has snitched yet. If they do, they will investigate but as of now, there's nothing to look at cuz they have no corroborating facts or info from a snitch. He also shows that "his" office and the "office" of the investigators are two different entities.He releases what the detectives tell him to release. HE is NOT an investigating officer on the murder. This leads to the implication the detectives know more but are just not telling him. He just parrots what they tell him to say.

Thoughts?

lynda said...

Concerned said...
"Donae Mitchell on Facebook today...
Fasho I just feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Don't nobody feel my pain even the one person I thought really had my back against me right now. I'm always the bad guy. Feeling like everyone would be better without me. For real.

I hate to see anyone so miserable but Donae might be the one most likely to spill some truth about Amanda's death."

December 21, 2015 at 7:55 PM

***************************************

Interestingly, Donae has DELETED that post 20 minutes ago and replaced with this...


Donae Mitchell with Whitney Dycus.
21 mins ·
Cuz the REAL MVP! Shoutout to you, you just made our WHOLE night!! 😘

BB said...

LE isn't going to say if they are on to DB. If their official stance is that DB is cleared, then that's what they are going to tell anybody who asks.
The question is, are they telling the truth? Or just giving DB opportunity to hang himself?

lynda said...

WEll, he is stating that if someone gives them a lead to look at davey in a different way they will definitely follow it. You are correct tho, and I feel the same way. Public relations just parrots what investigators give them. He did not say that they will NEVER look at him tho, nor will they pursue other leads if they pertain to him...just the opposite in fact.

Anonymous said...

lynda said...blah, blah, blah

Thoughts?
December 22, 2015 at 1:03 AM

One sentence stands out, and you should pay attention.

"Currently, no investigative link has ever been established to implicate the husband."

Stretch it, twist it, misconstrue it, misrepresent it to your heart's content, but you cannot change it.

If I've counted correctly, Sergeant Adams provided you with three telephone numbers and an e-mail address. Got something? Report it. If not, oh well...nice try.

Your comments reveal that you are uninformed, to put it politely. Please stop. I'm embarrassed for you.

Anonymous said...

Sounds good to me. Case closed.

Anonymous said...

HI Davey!!!

(((Waves)))

lynda said...

HaHa..no need to be embarrassed for me. No twisting, miscontruing here. We've got the links to the murderers and DAvey and they have been now been reported. We'll see. I don't anticipate this taking overnight. May be never, may be in 3 years or next month. Whatever.
I certainly did not misrepresent it. He clearly states if info comes in, thats the way it will go.
I can hardly wait for Davey's sermon on the 23rd :)

Anon @ 2:11...and he certainly didn't stay the case was closed. You are the one twisting and misrepresenting. Case is ACTIVE. That's about all that those of us who think he had guilty knowledge that we can hope for at this point.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 2:07. I agree with you . Lynda and others seem to be in denial about what LE is saying . LE is making it very clear ... Davey is not involved . There is no link to him and the killers .
Lynda is the very one that did not believe that a poster had contacted LE , and that they responded back . She called it bluff , said she would contact them and doubted she would get a response . So , they respond to her , AND she still is blah , blah , blah about his response , because it's not the response that she wants .
So many amateur sleuths on here . Why not listen to the real professionals , the LE ?
Just because you want Davey to be involved , will not make it so !

Anonymous said...

lynda,
I would speculate he wrote back personally, though on vacation, out of concern for himself and family. He is into black lives matter so I'd assume he is black.

It is difficult to relax and constantly look over your shoulder not knowing what type of obsessed nutjob will do you in for not responding properly, considering all lamb-brained theories, or contributing to the henpecking of their blogging buddies.

I don't know if I read you had once been married to LE or if it was "God" talking to the back of my head, but if that is the case there is another cause for concern. It is unnerving that the MMPI test missed judge of character. When will another officer turn on me? might be on his mind.

Black officer gunned down at beach by crazy white woman looking for fodder along with evidence in a long since solved case.Not how I'd want my vacation to end.

Perhaps you should volunteer for studies on why police officers marry such people and help them straighten out the relationship issues on the MMPI tests.

Anonymous said...

Here it is;"(having been married to a cop, this is odd..they usually do not want ANYONE knowing what they do, where they go, etc.)"

Perhaps your ex didn't want you to know what he does, where they go (get it),etc.

M said...

What makes a post disappear?

ANON @ 4:23

I was also skeptical of the first poster who claimed to have received a response from Officer Adams. It was a poorly worded response coming from someone whose job is communication.

There is a difference between people wanting DB to be involved and wanting him to get caught because they believe he IS involved. I am on the fence about whether his guilt is related to the murder or something else, but if he did have anything to do with her murder, I want him to get caught, too.

You have misrepresented what Adams said in his response to Lynda. He said that DB was and is not a suspect. The word 'suspect' is a legal term. A suspect must be given Miranda Warnings. Adams did not state that "Davey is not involved." He said that 'these types of investigations remain active."

Interesting leak in your post. How do you know DB?

Elizabeth Norway said...

"...the mentor had Davey on the mind: he spoke in sexualized terms about Blackburn, physically, as one would speak if sexually attracted. The mentor qualified this with, "if you're a man you know what I am talking about" (to which men have said that they do not know what he means) to exclude himself as homosexual. "


I dont understand this. Did the mentor talk sexually about Amanda or Davey..?
If it was about Davey, why would other men understand that?
And how would that exclude him of being homo? If anything, talking sexually about a man does not diminish the mentors chance of being seen as homo.

That poor woman, she must have been terrified, what a horrible way to die.
I see the killers are black, was it a hatecrime also?

kristi hurley said...

OT- In relation to the Heather Elvis case... Is it possible to do an analysis on an article/blog? The author claims to be an "investigative journalist". http://truthvoice.com/2015/12/horry-county-police-bungle-missing-case-of-missing-girl-heather-elvis/

Anonymous said...

Listen Anon @ 2:07
(Davey)

We know it's you here @ 4:23.

Nobody spaces their periods and commas apart one space apart like that.

Also the blah, blah, blah was very telling, along with LE over and over.

You talk to yourself all the time, right?? In the shower even??

Anonymous said...

I am thinking Davey watches this blog religiously (haha pun).

His narcissism couldn't hold itself in after Lynda posted that, he had to rejoice in hearing the husband wasn't a suspect.

Except that isn't what the message said.
Haha

Anonymous said...

@Lynda,

Isn't it interesting that he slams the media with pure speculation to increase viewership when the media (except for FOX) has handled him with kid gloves? Plus, he himself, is in the media.
So, my take on this is that nobody has snitched yet. If they do, they will investigate but as of now, there's nothing to look at cuz they have no corroborating facts or info from a snitch. He also shows that "his" office and the "office" of the investigators are two different entities.He releases what the detectives tell him to release. HE is NOT an investigating officer on the murder. This leads to the implication the detectives know more but are just not telling him. He just parrots what they tell him to say.

Thoughts?""

Yes, my thoughts: Please keep emailing him with slurs, innuendos, and hypocrisy theories. Tell him why you ex was a bad cop that didn't take the bad guys out of society and you can do a much better job. Email him photos with geotagging enabled so he will know your whereabouts. If I'm not mistaken, you are emailing state police. They can meet you when you cross the state line to get in there and show them how to build a snitch society in which every person has the equal opportunity to live in terror from online snitch/beotch leaders who call upon other critical thankerss to rise up and pound other commenters that do not agree with their idiocy because someone has posted a rant about his leanings as if they were a crystal ball.

Surely a neighbor, congregation member, or local burglar can provide you some assistance if you just apply enough pressure. Kinda like strong arm robbery but not.

Anonymous said...

The one thing that all of you are missing -
If, indeed, some "big lie" happened when he was in high school, there would be people coming out of the woodwork. But, nada. Zilch. Nothing.
Davey Blackburn is a tool. He is a horrid human being. He is a liar. He is a narcissist and he is absolutely gay.
The only thing he is guilty of, IMO, is not giving a damn that his wife was murdered.
I'm done with this witch hunt.

Anonymous said...

This whole incident is tragic. Regardless of who did it, if it was planned, if DB is glad it happened even if he did not have a part in it... regardless it is tragic.

I read this article: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/12/18/charges-blackburn-suspects-attacked-women-days-before-slaying/77573272/

One week before the murder of Amanda Blackburn, these same criminals broke into an apartment, found a woman in the shower, raped her with a gun to her head, robbed her, and took off with her phone and computer... It is assumed they entered through a patio door...

Whatever your thoughts are concerning the murder, If you love your own family or live on your own, LOCK YOUR DOORS. We do not live in Mayberry. No one can assume they are safe. It is imperative to be vigilant about your security. When you are home keep your doors and 1st floor windows locked. When you leave for work LOCK YOUR DOORS. If you leave for 5 minutes to run and get a coffee LOCK YOUR DOORS. When you get in your car at the shopping center, the first thing you should do is LOCK YOUR DOORS. Don't leave any opportunity open for a criminal to take advantage of...

I truly believe if this was a burglary, that these criminals would have moved on to another house had the door been locked. They might have walked around the back of the house and checked the side/back door but would have moved to a different house had the doors and windows been locked. People naturally choose the path of least resistance... they don't want to work for what they get...

My heart breaks for the victims of these crimes. Those responsible should be executed. But please, for the safety of yourself and your families, please lock your doors.

Anonymous said...

Why not second floor windows locked. Is it inconceivable an intruder might use a ladder laying around-at your house or a neighbors-or a nearby tree to crawl to the second floor window?

How many times have we heard of someone trapped in a chimney-often dying-trying to enter a home?

sha said...

Isn't it a little risky to go killing your hostage *before* you know if she gave you the correct bank code? Isn't that the whole reason of having someone stay at the home, with the victim, whilst the others make certain they get their money? She was small, she was pregnant, and I would assume quite easily controlled with the threat of hurting her other small child. Then I wonder about the husband coming home and blabbing on the phone for *HOW* long before he went inside? How much of the "golden hour" to get Amanda help was wasted with him on the phone? You would think just that, just not going inside right away, would be enough to pile on a whole heap of guilty feelings. He reminds me of a mannequin, no more emotions than a wax figure.

Turner said...

I'm struck with how many people think he's gay. I agree. The first thing in his video that caught my ear was they were newlyweds, he married a virgin, and everything went bad immediately following the honeymoon?
As pointed out, his sexuality may provide some guilt in his language but it doesn't replace any and all emotional connection to his wife, baby and the horrible death he walked in on. I think that's why we are all so comfortable identifying him as a narcissist.
But I'm also surprised at how many think her family is patiently waiting on the police to swoop in and bust Davey. I don't know what LE is doing and it's really hard to judge what Peter thinks:)
But, I do not have any confidence in Amanda's family! I've finally watched all these videos; I dreaded it as I knew it would be painful to see people grieving but it left me more confused. I know they aren't involved but why do they seem so strangely accepting of this?

One other thing: I don't think Davey is smart! That's been repeated over and over. He's self-absorbed, calculated and manipulative but not intelligent.

Turner said...

No, a suspect under arrest must be given Miranda RIGHTS.

Anonymous said...

To ShayShat at 11:59

The book you want about the JonBenet Ramsey murder is Perfect Murder, Perfect Town by Lawrence Schiller

lynda said...

Wow...lol

Haters will hate haha. I like how you are all anons too!

Whatever. Everyone on this blog knows he is not a suspect. Where have you been? After all the PR hyperbole, what was actually stated was that if they do find evidence that he is/could be involved..they will follow it. They do not have it at this time. The case remains OPEN and ACTIVE. They have not closed the case. Period. Which is good.


M said...

Turner - Both words are used. Whether or not one is in custody is what seems to determine the need to be formally 'warned'.

This website might help some to understand when it is necessary:
http://www.tlgattorneys.com/2012/04/when-a-miranda-warning-is-required/

I can understand why police would want to keep a potential 'suspect' as just a 'person of interest' for as long as possible, especially if that person is talking.

Kate said...

The case was botched from the start, IMPD was duped by Davey's act. There is no shortage on corruption within the IMPD. All one needs to do is a google search on it.

Lynda, thank you for sharing the response you received with us. Both responses seem very strange. May just have to settle with the thought that Davey Blackburn is not being investigated and will go on to live his life as if nothing ever happened.

If Davey Blackburn isn't being investigated, why hasn't the 911 call been released? Why haven't ANY of the 911 calls been released? Why didn't they show the better surveillance picture of the suspect(s) instead of the grainy, black and white photo of a back side? There was a killer and a rapist on the loose, yet IMPD didn't show any sense of urgency to the public whatsoever. Why did they come back a day later to collect evidence after everything had been clean?

Anonymous said...

Or maybe he did lie to cover a truth and it was found out.

Anonymous said...

In his Bio for the Middle School coaching gig, he doesn't say he played in the All-Star game, just that he was selected for the All-Star team. He also lists playing in a huge game for the American Legion team
out of Tuscaloosa. Tuscaloosa HS went to State Semifinals that year and I believe he would have mentioned that in the Bio if he was on that team. The American Legion does lists him from Tuscaloosa HS but that doesn't necessarily mean he played for them it just means where he was a student. Someone posted he was on the list of Tuscaloosa graduates that went on to play College or pro, but again this doesn't necessarily mean he played with them. Our small HS doesn't have a baseball team but the American Legion team is called by our HS's name and the boys are listed from our school. I can't find any articles that say anything about him playing in the All-Star game, just that he was selected for the team. I'm wondering at that level of play if they test for Performance Enhancing drugs before the game? Also if Alabama is like Missouri's HS Sports Association he would not be eligible to play for the first season he was enrolled at Tuscaloosa in order to minimalize illegal recruiting practices.

Anonymous said...

For anyone familiar to the SgtSleuthy/Truth_Indy twitter accounts with their crusade against wanted felon Christopher Price. The Indianapolis Media has now picked up on the story and published an article last night about LE failing to act on social media tips. Also, look at the screenshots that WRTV6 posted from Truth_Indy in which he alleges that IMPD has assisted known felon Christopher Price.
Considering what Kate and Lynda have posted this story regarding Sleuthy and Christopher Price is very interesting.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/call-6-investigators/call-6-how-does-local-law-enforcement-respond-to-social-media-tips

https://twitter.com/KaraKenney6/with_replies

MDB said...

Lots of conversation about why LE hasn't released the 911 call. In Indiana, they can withhold it if in the middle of an investigation. Two equally plausible scenarios:

1) They still are suspicious of Davey, they may be withholding the call because it could implicate him and cause him to shut up and lawyer up, as opposed to hanging himself with ongoing public statements.

2) They are still NOT suspicious of Davey, and are keeping the 911 call suppressed because it reveals details about the crime scene that would only be known to the guilty. This might be because they have to corroborate the CI's account of the events without worrying about whether the CI is fabricating or altering their story to match the details revealed in the 911 call.

So while hearing the 911 call would give us a LOT more information about DB's state of mind and perspective at that time and a LOT to analyze, I don't think we can draw any conclusions from the fact that it has not been released - not releasing it would be consistent with either possible scenarios regarding DB's guilt or suspected guilt.

Anonymous said...

Lynda---- I am the commenter whose remarks you find disgusting. In fact, I brought it to Peter's attention of ABB's criminal threat to cause criminal property damage after she/he went on and on about her capacity to cure drug addicts, welcome homeless homosexuals/transgenders/ and giving advice to a problem teen who will not tell her therapists the truth:the diagnosis which ABB had rendered and threatened criminally until the girl changed the truth to her liking as it were.

Maybe it was all just hyperbole for Public Relations and I'm not smart enough to get it.

Here's your response:
Hopefully a mod will catch up and delete this. What a filthy, reckless, coward you are ANON @ 8:14 am. I hope Peter blocks you. what you did was a full frontal vicious attack on a poster that had no redeeming qualities at all. Nor did it perpetuate the conversation about the Blackburn murder. Yuck. I wonder if you are who used to be called Louise? Haven't seen her around for a few days at all. Even if you're not..shut your mouth about other posters personal lives and definitely about their deceased children!
A better question to me is, why am I THE ONLY ONE disgusted by that post towards ABB????? Rise up people!

Kate said...

Why are you the only one disgusted towards ABB?

Just to speak for myself, I'm not disgusted because people are entitled to their opinion. Because when I log onto the big world wide web, I understand it's complex and people can be absolute lunatics on here as well as having very different opinions. I also understand I am not going to change anyone via the internet, so I roll and scroll and do my best to stay on topic. I also found ABB's posts entertaining and passionate, I don't always agree with what she or others say, but I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with everything I say. So you take the good, discard the bad and move along. At the end of the day, it's Peter's decision.

Just my thoughts and opinion.

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 10:34
Thanks for detail on baseball bio. I'll leave it to you and those up with baseball to asses this side of his career. For example, is his coaching a paid job, providing income to supplement pastoring, or is volunteer work?

Pak31 said...

I just feel like I want to go somewhere and scream as loud as I can. The frustration over this case is crazy! The list compiled above, not sure who the poster was, of all the strange "coincidences" is just SO telling. How,as some have said, could police NOT look into this? It can't be a closed case. I also find it odd that Davey didn't at least TRY to sound like a grieving husband when interviewed. Did he know if he faked it that it would look fake? Or is he so I'll that he truly can't say anything that involves emotions? I asked myself earlier how a person could arrange to have his wife and unborn child killed but if he has no feelings, then it would be easy for him. I watched Forensic Files last night. It struck me how some of the cases were investigated further with less clues and odd behavior than this situation. Those investigators looked at every little piece of information even though in some cases they had others arrested. So why is this case different? Unless that is just something LE is saying to draw attention away from DB. The red flags are flying in this case yet no one seems to notice. I don't get it. I truly hope they are lying low and maybe the trial for the arrested will open the doors somehow.

rosy said...

Anonymous said...
at 4:23 AM
LE is making it very clear ... Davey is not involved . There is no link to him and the killers .
So many amateur sleuths on here . Why not listen to the real professionals , the LE ?
Just because you want Davey to be involved , will not make it so !
==============================

In this case it is of concern to think that LE may be as oblivious as Davey is to facts such as his bringing an Airsoft pistol onto the stage in his middle school auditorium "church" a few days before the murder and "shooting" it at a young woman in a hoody to get rid of "worries."

IMPD or some spokesperson of theirs told the media Davey was "100%" in the clear before reviewing his history.

IMPD had been unprofessional in dealing with some high profile cases. They have also failed to to clear a massive backlog of unsolved crimes of violence in the city.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe this subject has come up again! Thank you Lynda & Kate for speaking kind words for me, and for coming to my defense, Lynda. It is deeply appreciated.

However, I'd like to clarify the false accusations made by an anony(s) poster(s) concerning twisting my comments and reposting them in ways I did not say, and now causing others to believe I did. I did not make a single one of the comments as they were restated and that I was falsely accused of making. Not one. As it stands now, I have been insulted AND lied against by an unknown poster-troll(s) who is harassing and stalking me, which is causing me great mental and physical stress.

To clarify: particularly, I did not threaten bodily harm to anyone. My threat was a warning not to continue lying about and insulting my deceased son, and me; the threat was clearly stated towards the PC ID use, not the physical body of the person. THAT's a vast difference. AND I meant it. PCs are not hard to trace if one has the know-how and wherewithal to do it, and I do, not even for those posting anonymously; when in fact, we are ALL posting anonymously. Peter may have removed some posts but make no mistake; they are still on my hard drive. ABB

Please email me, Lynda, at: annebraunbroker@hotmail.com



Anon "I" said...

Pac31- LE said that the case was still ongoing. It took years for LE to nail Drew Peterson, but in the end, the truth came to light. I was reading elsewhere, and someone mentioned that DB IS showing emotion: Happiness. I'm not sure who said it, but if anyone knows, please help me find the reference. It fits with a narcissist getting something he wants, IMHO.

Anon "I" said...

I just caught my irony of "light." Truth shines in the light and there is not much DB loves more than the spot-"light."

Elizabeth Norway said...

It took 8 years to get David Temple convicted of killing his pregnant wife.
It took two years to convict Scott Peterson. It took four years to convict Matt Baker.

Justice will come, if he is guilty. However, Amanda was raped, which makes me believe that the husband may be innocent.

I dont know, but hopefully the police will get him if he did it.
Coincidenses do happen, and sometimes nasty people are innocent even if they seem guilty.

Anonymous said...

I agree with your post entirely, Rosy at 11:21. I said from the beginning that LE was not investigating Davey, they couldn't have been, not even from the moment they entered the home; allowing him to remove Amanda's cell phone, diaries, computers and whatever else he chose to dispose of, including having the carpeting cleaned the next day; THEN announced him 100% cleared. He had free roam and range of movement in everything he did. He had nothing to do with his wifes' murder?! LIke, how the HELL could they know THAT? They had not viewed the neighborhood CC videos themselves at that time. They didn't know SQUAT.

I have come back and asked several more times of those who keep inferring that LE is secretly investigating him, keeping it close to the vest, like we are all idiots; in that, what the hell could they be investigating since they had already let him remove all the evidence? I also said at some point that I'd be surprised if LE was reading here, and I would. (I think that post got deleted).

Many hours have been spent here by posters who have researched and played and replayed and analyzed his many videos and sermons and photos and face book connections backwards and forwards; NO WAY would LE in Indy expend all the resources to do all this investigating that has been done right here on this site, looking for a connection to Amanda's murder so it is only reasonable to expect that they are ignoring every bit of it including this site. I was hoping I was wrong.

BUT, to blatantly admit that they are not looking into Davey Blackburn as a possible person of interest, now THIS is just astounding even to me! Yep. They are one sorry-ass, do nothing, piss-poor LE agency. "we've button-holed our killer and did from the start and you can all go to hell". THIS is what it adds up too. Davey Blackburn is off the hook, free and clear. That's pretty much the way I'm seeing right now unless something comes up from LE stipulating otherwise. ABB

Pak31 said...

@anonymous 4:23. I feel like you are embarrassing YOURSELF! LE is not saying DB isn't involved. They said he's not being considered a suspect based on the info they have. He also says these types of investigations remain active. There is no way you can say this case is closed! You are pretty naive if you believe a generic statement from LE. Do you know how many cases in history were "solved" only to be re-solved years later? To say that DB is innocent or not involved because a rep fro LE said he's not a suspect is 100% ignorant. The trial for the arrested suspects hasn't even taken place yet. There is NO way that you know what is going on behind the scenes of the police department or the investigation. So to tell others they are wrong is laughable. I'm not here to say he's guilty or innocent. Just that none of us know. If DB is not involved then my wish is that the next time he preaches, that he say SOMETHING, just one thing nice about his deceased wife. Anything! I don't want it to be about her love for God or the church. Just a heartfelt statement about DB and Amanda. He can't do it. He can't say anything without promoting his "church". So my Christmas wish is for him to show us that he truly LOVED his wife and loves his son. She's been gone for over a month and not once have I heard him say anything remotely loving about her(not in regard to faith) or his son. Not to mention his unborn child. That's not a man. A real man shows emotion and speaks lovingly about his family.

Anonymous said...

Elizabeth @11:58, you are right of course, plus several more wife killers that I can think of that took a long time to bring to justice.

But in everyone of those cases that I'm familiar with, LE was ALSO investigating some of these killers without evidence, only under suspicion; but in some of them they were being urged and coerced into investigating the killer husbands, in particular those cases where someone was going to bat for the deceased/murdered wife, like a family member.

No one is going to bat for Amanda; no one in Amandas' family suspects Davey or even wants him investigated; not to our knowledge. IF I were related to Amanda, particularly her parent, I would have hired myself an attorney and a PI the first day. But not these people. They couldn't even ante up a decent reward. ABB

Pak31 said...

Elizabeth Norway @ 11:58. I've questioned this before and I know I got an answer but are we sure Amanda was raped? I thought there was no evidence of sexual assault. Just that her underwear was off and her shirt pulled up. The previous victim was raped and the suspect is charged with that. Even if she was raped, why would that make you think DB wasn't involved. If he didn't care that she was going to be brutally murdered why would he care what they did to her? I just don't think it means anything as far as guilt or innocence.

Anonymous said...

Donae's Fb posts, and then the deletion of, troubles me.

I wonder if Donae reads this blog.

I'm sure with Alonzo being involved in this case, and the others even being good friends of hers, that she can't help but be drawn to googling her name (or his name) to see what comes up.
I hope it brings her here, to Peter's site.

I am not saying she does, bc she might not know anything at all about this case other than what she has told, but if she would happen upon this blog and be reading- if she knows anything- anything at all about any connection someone else has to the murder of his young wife and her unborn child, that she finds it in her heart to do the right thing as a mother and go to the police.

Too much emphasis is placed upon "snitching" these days - especially when it comes down to doing hard time.
It's almost glorified to keep your mouth shut.

Why would you be ok with your child's father, uncle, friend, etc. being sent to prison for the rest of his life, missing out on everything, only seeing him at certain times- just so you aren't viewed as a snitch??

Loyalty?

Just because someone swears to be there for you in your darkest hour, doesn't mean they will be.
When times get tough, and money runs out, friends usually do, too.
Anymore, it's an everyone out for themselves world.

If there is someone that planned this murder- and she knows about it - do you think he or she will lose an ounce of sleep laying in bed at night thinking of these thugs being in jail for the rest of their natural born life?
Not seeing their children except certain times?

No.

I know that the men who did this despicable act to Amanda are now in police custody - well deservedly- but we won't know until it goes to trial what really happened- if even then, if ever.
Are they guilty- absolutely.
But are they the only ones?

They deserve to do time for the role they played- no matter what- taking an innocent life of a mother and child is absolutely
inconceivable. Horrible.

However, it would be a miscarriage of justice if they are blamed for the whole deal- if there was a bigger fish (or fishes) involved that walks free.

I pray as a mother, daughter and sister that if she does have information, that she puts herself into Amanda's shoes that day- and if she knows anything she does the right thing and speaks up.

For Amanda and Evie who no longer have a voice, and who never will.

For Amanda's parents and siblings, who deserve to know the truth.

And finally for little Weston.

Anonymous said...

Why get so angry about it, 12:10? Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion, even you. ABB

Pak31 said...

Anon @12:22, personally I'm shocked at the strange attitudes of all her family members. It's like they all are on happy pills. Or brainwashed by all the religion. None of them have acted like normal people in all of this. I am a Christian, don't get me wrong, but I'm not oblivious to my surroundings. How her close knit family, especially sister didn't see anything wrong with the way DB treated her frightens me. People think this is ok? They are just too over the top religious for me. Yes, let it be your life but there has to be a balance.

Lis said...

This is a little bit off-topic in that it isn't statement analysis per se but has anyone noticed that in the video where DB is saying he wants information to find his wife's killers, he is shaking his head "no" while he is saying it?

in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S64tyQ7_E7M&t=11m43s

he says
"Well if ahem if there was um if I could say something to somebody who who knew something, I would I would beg em to come forward and and share whatever information they have um you know I mean we we we want to find whoever did this we want um aheh it's such a conundrum"

and, btw, did you know you can link to an exact spot in a youtube video like I did above? You just put the url of the video and the time in this form and it gives you the link http://youtubetime.com/#

Anonymous said...

Lis, yeh that part of the interview is striking how he gestures towards himself while talking about withholding information. And it's mind-boggling how, when asked what he'd say to anyone who has information, he describes it as a "conundrum" and goes on to explain that he has mixed feelings on that because Amanda would want "forgiveness" for whoever did it. This was only a few days after the murder. He tells us plainly that he has mixed feelings about anyone coming forward with information, and that he might even prefer that they not.

Pak31 said...

ABB, lol. I am not angry. Far from it. I was speaking only to the anon poster who said case was closed. I disagreed with him or her and I voiced my opinion just like they voiced theirs. I don't need a mediator thanks. I used caps, for emphasis not anger. That post was from the bottom of my heart and I thought I was allowed to say it. Why do you feel the need to scold me? I didn't say anything vicious. If we are both allowed our opinions then that's what we just did. He gave his and I gave mine. I'm a grown woman and can fight my own battles. I just don't understand why people think the case is closed because LE says he's not a suspect. That's all. 😬 I apologize to all if I'm posting incorrectly. If Peter finds it inappropriate, he can delete it.

Anonymous said...

Wow Lis, thanks for the info. I'm not at all computer savvy but might try it when I work up a strong enough stomach to be able to listen to this fool. So far I have only been able to do it twice and only then briefly. I had already seen the comment you posted above. I have never in my life heard someone who sounded (and acted) so guilty as Davey Blackburn.

I am NOT making a flat out accusation; however, as a matter of fact, I'm one of those few here who thinks Davey could have shot her before he ever left for the gym that morning, leaving her severely disabled but not dead. He had 41 minutes in which to do it before he walked out the door. I also feel that he may have deliberately let her continue to suffer and bleed while he was talking to his good bud on the phone after he returned.

Who can say if he is the one who left her panties lying beside her (specified as panties, NOT underwear; 'underwear' denotes other types of under garments as well) or if she was raped or not. LE said not, but I specifically HEARD a member of the INDY LE (black guy) say she WAS RAPED on the Nancy disGrace show, who immediately cut him off, but he HAD already said it. IMO, we won't ever know the truth. ABB

BB said...

Take a deep breath and go enjoy the holiday with your loved ones. This isn't getting solved anytime soon. Regardless of what they say we don't know what LE is pursuing and have no way of finding out until it is public.

Crime and murder situation here in Indy is horrible, record-breaking crisis with gangs and heroine becoming a bigger and bigger problem. If LE are looking at DB, they clearly want to keep it quiet and are not going to reveal ANYTHING!! They are not going to ruin their case because some armchair investigators on a blog are curious. (And yes, I include myself in that group!! :) ) Just let this go for a bit and enjoy your time with your loved ones. At least part of Amanda's family is going to have a very rough holiday.

Anonymous said...

Anon @12:17, you made many wonderful and thought provoking comments in your post; but I wonder just how bright this young girl is? I mean, she's all of what, seventeen? Holed up with this criminal nasty dude for what, one or two years? LIke she's got good sense? You do realize, 'birds of a feather flock together?' Maybe she will wake up one morning, but wake up from what? To bite the hand that feeds her? Oh well, we can always hope. Anyhoo, I did like your post. ABB

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
at 12:30 PM

This was only a few days after the murder.
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Yes, and it was on the day of her funeral (Celebration of Life) in the auditorium in which her plain wood coffin (casket) had been on display.

I prefer the straight news clip rather than the one with the spooky music.
https://youtu.be/DjO11rWx55w?t=1m36s

Cyndi said...

When a pregnant woman is brutally murdered the husband is usually the first suspect. LE is certainly aware of this obvious fact as well as the other indications (too numerous to mention) that potentially incriminate DB in Amanda's murder.

The fact that LE is publicly dismissing the possibility of DB's culpability is a deliberate and calculating attempt to divert DB's attention and to bolster his level of comfort. I believe he is very much under their radar!

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Anonymous said...

Kate, ref your post @ 10:10 this morning, you raised some excellent questions and made some good points. Apparently that local Indy LE agency isn't worth the salt that goes into their bread. (yeah, I use a lotta clichés', it works well for me in my business and has become a habit. Some get a kick out uv it, people like to break the ice sometimes). Sorry about that...

BTW, you are welcome to email me too. Would love to chat off line with you and Lynda. That really is my email address. I have never lied about who I am and was telling the truth all along, using my real initials. What's to hide? I AM ABB.

Anonymous said...

Ha ha!! I just read the word Trump used last night in Grand Rapids, Michigan, to describe Hillary Clinton's 2008 primary loss! Wow, I can't believe he said that!!

jbb said...

According to the court case filings for Gordon, Watson, and Taylor, there have been no rape charges filed against any of them so far. The latest update to the records is today (12/22) and was for the pretrial conference rescheduling from 01/08/16 to 02/05/16.

So, the reports of "sexual abuse" and "Sexual assault," etc. are stiil unclear. Was there a news report of "rape?" I have said this before, but I am very surprised that the local Indianapolis news has not covered this story more closely. Why not a follow-up? How about revisiting the question, "Can you clarify whether or not David Blackburn has been ruled out as a suspect?"

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oops that was bad timing.

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Anonymous said...

Cyndi @12:59, I hope you are right. I really do, but LE certainly hasn't given any indication of it. It may take a new force taking over in that precinct. I guess time will tell.

Anon @1:14, what did Trump say about Hillary's 2008 loss? I missed it. It wouldn't surprise me, anything Trump says. I love the one where he snooped over to low-energy Jeb Bushs' web site and bought it out from under him, rerouting the traffic to his own site! Now THAT is hilarious. ABB

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Peter Hyatt said...

I think we are awaiting testing for the definitive answer on whether or not she was sexually assaulted.

Sex, however, is a part of the murder.

Consider:

*the shower phrase used in correlation to his wife's murder in which she was found with her clothing removed.

If she was NOT sexually assaulted:

a. the assailant attempted to sexually assault her, removed her clothes, but stopped for whatever reason
b. the removal of her clothing was for the purpose of staging, which, statistically, goes back to a connection with the husband.

When the 911 call is released, I will post analysis.

Peter

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If the 911 call is never released, AND it just might not be; I will still see guilt written all over Davey Blackburn 'til kingdom come. I can't see it any other way. Just him finally coming out (if he ever does) and (lying) and saying he 'loved her' won't change one iota of his guilt when we already know he didn't and doesn't.

He doesn't have a problem with declaring his love love love for 'you guys' at his little church group and he wouldn't have had a problem declaring love for Amanda either if he ever had any. He didn't. Too late now. ABB

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Anonymous said...

Lynda,
(Good enough for me case closed.). I'm anon @ 2:11. I was being sarcastic. It was a poor attempt at humor. I'm not twisting or misrepresenting anything. Everyone is becoming so defensive on here lately. Sorry. Geez.

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Anonymous said...

Thank you Anon @2:48, I think I'll do that very thing. I do have some other things I need to take care of. Now. Have a good rest of the day! ABB

lynda said...

Anonymous said...
"Lynda---- I am the commenter whose remarks you find disgusting. In fact, I brought it to Peter's attention of ABB's criminal threat to cause criminal property damage after she/he went on and on about her capacity to cure drug addicts, welcome homeless homosexuals/transgenders/ and giving advice to a problem teen who will not tell her therapists the truth:the diagnosis which ABB had rendered and threatened criminally until the girl changed the truth to her liking as it were.

Maybe it was all just hyperbole for Public Relations and I'm not smart enough to get it."

Here's your response:
Hopefully a mod will catch up and delete this. What a filthy, reckless, coward you are ANON @ 8:14 am. I hope Peter blocks you. what you did was a full frontal vicious attack on a poster that had no redeeming qualities at all. Nor did it perpetuate the conversation about the Blackburn murder. Yuck. I wonder if you are who used to be called Louise? Haven't seen her around for a few days at all. Even if you're not..shut your mouth about other posters personal lives and definitely about their deceased children!
A better question to me is, why am I THE ONLY ONE disgusted by that post towards ABB????? Rise up people!

December 22, 2015 at 10:52 AM
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I'm done with you. Anyone that has that kind of hate in their heart to write what you did is someone I want nothing to do with.

Kate...thank you..I shouldn't have assumed because no one wrote anything I was the only one disgusted.
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Anonymous said...
Lynda,
(Good enough for me case closed.). I'm anon @ 2:11. I was being sarcastic. It was a poor attempt at humor. I'm not twisting or misrepresenting anything. Everyone is becoming so defensive on here lately. Sorry. Geez

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No Anon, I'm sorry. Didn't even occur to me it was sarcasm cuz as you can see, I got lambasted by some Davey lovers :)


For all the murders in Indiana in the year 2015, over 50% are still unsolved. This is a police force that has acknowledged corruption and upheaval. There has been a change in leadership which trickles down to the beat cop/detectives depending on whose "side" they were on. They will either work willingly for the new chief or they will make his job very difficult for him. Politics is in play, money, and yes, I do think the whole Pastor,Christianity, etc. circle is also in play. The PR guy for the dept. is not very professional and you can see that he has taken a "side". The fact that he talks about the media sensationalizing and such, when in fact, the media has been very quiet. The media certainly hasn't printed anything like what he said in the email to me.

Whoever said they don't think LE comes here to read, I believe they do.

I was disturbed also by Donae's removal of her post and then saying her cousin just made "OUR" night. Donae talks about prayer and God quite a bit, if she does know something more, perhaps if she is really trying to be a servant of God, she will come forth with info. Who knows? I do think LE has mucked this investigation up tho. Davey wasn't even taken to the station to be questioned, no poly, no gun residue test, (that we know of) To not even LOOK at him as a suspect is poor police work IMO. Again, as we know it today..and it also is JMO but I think the PR guy has his own little agenda he is running. It's disheartening to see such chaos in a dept. There's a reason why over 50% of the murders there are unsolved.

Anonymous said...

ABB,
Why is this blog about you? Why do you come here to offer your personal information?

Yes, we all have opinions, however, you keep coming back to offer more of your personal life.

Isn't the purpose of Peter's blog to learn from Statement Analysis?

Granted, we've all experienced tremendous heartaches but I cannot understand why your opinion means more than others who might disagree with you. Can you just understand that others have an opinion? Perhaps you're too emotionally biased?

Maybe I've misinterpreted your posts. I wish you would leave out your personal notes and experiences and engage without the flaming defense and hostility.

Kate said...

ABB said.......
He doesn't have a problem with declaring his love love love for 'you guys' at his little church group and he wouldn't have had a problem declaring love for Amanda either if he ever had any. He didn't. Too late now. ABB
December 22, 2015 at 2:15 PM
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That's what I don't get. Last night I was clipping some Davey vids and (sorry if I already mentioned this) he was crying over one of his church member's having a miscarriage. The next clip, he cries about a church member's mother on her death bed. The final one is when he is reading a child's book about father's day (this was in his father's day sermon), he can barely read through the book, choking up and weeping like a school boy.

But queue the crickets when it comes to Amanda being murdered and possibly sexually assaulted.

Kate said...

Another thing I noticed by watching all of Davey's bs videos is his ending. It's like clockwork. The slow, sad music starts as Davey begins speaking to his audience, letting them know that he knows, how much pain they are in. He pounces on this at the end of each of his sermons. Playing on their vulnerability and letting them know he understands their pain, he's been there dontchaknow.

In almost every single sermon he does, he mentions that he knows he is a mess and that he needs counseling. He also refers to himself as A.D.D very often. I don't know how cops can say he's not a suspect, or how they cleared him right away. One thing is for sure, this is definitely one for the record books. I've never seen a husband cleared that fast, ever. Has anyone else?

jbb said...

Kate @ 3:53 said,
"That's what I don't get. Last night I was clipping some Davey vids and (sorry if I already mentioned this) he was crying over one of his church member's having a miscarriage. The next clip, he cries about a church member's mother on her death bed. The final one is when he is reading a child's book about father's day (this was in his father's day sermon), he can barely read through the book, choking up and weeping like a school boy.

But queue the crickets when it comes to Amanda being murdered and possibly sexually assaulted."



These are great examples. I have not watched many of DB's video. I just can't get through them. He is so fake and it's hard to watch. Thanks for having the stomach to watch DB perform. DB has shown NO remorse in the news interviews I've watched. I don't even remember a tear in any of the interviews! Do you?

JBB said...

Kate @ 4:01--
I am baffled by the seeming lack of interrogation of DB as well. Was he ever even taken in for questioning? It certainly wasn't reported. It seems as if LE has backed completely off DB. Seems like unless one of the perps or the GF (Donae) flips with some info., DB's prayers just might be answered and he will walk free....

BB said...

"Blackburn’s husband, Davey Blackburn, is scheduled to speak for the first time at Resonate Church since his wife’s death on Wednesday, December 23 at the 7 p.m. Christmas service. That takes place at Northview Middle School."

Link to article CBS4: http://cbs4indy.com/2015/12/18/suspects-in-murder-of-amanda-blackburn-face-rape-burglary-charges-in-separate-case/

Kate said...

JBB, thanks. I'm telling you, it is hard to sit through his sermons, I usually take breaks in between because he is so hard to stomach. In one vid, he's talking about sex and both of his parents are in the audience. It's not the sex part that make the ears perk up, it's the words that he uses and his tone. Both sets of parents knew this was Davey's preferred method to preach and evidently didn't have a problem with it. My mind drifts to a Duggar style family, completely sticking their heads in the sand, but at least the Duggar's owned up to it. Davey can't even own up to what a jerk he was for leaving the door unlocked or sitting out in his car for almost an hour, yapping on the phone.

Davey was questioned at the hospital. Rumors were that Davey sobbed in the hospital. Was it real? Or was it Davey's performance of a lifetime? I can just imagine Davey smirking at himself in the mirror. Getting away with murder is tough these days, so if he is involved, his ego must be the size of China by now.

BB said...

I'm half tempted to show up there tomorrow evening and see it in person. If it weren't Christmas I totally would....Just so I could witness his weirdness in person with my own two eyes and ears.

BB said...

I'm sure he'll forgive us.

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JBB said...

Katie @4:27.
No kidding. DB must be really puffed up now. Invincible.

I was reading a new story in the "Gospel Herald" just now. Here is an excerpt from the end of the article. "He" refers to DB.

He looked out, and he said, 'Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing.'

Just like Jesus said!

Unbelievable.

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