Saturday, December 12, 2015

Video: By The Numbers: The Untold Story Of Muslim Opinions and Demographics

As we cover criminal ideology and deception, this is a short video worth your time from a the position of a Sunni Muslim Female:

55 comments:

Lemon said...

#vive la vérité

elf said...

OT.
A hypothetical question -
A woman goes on a blind date and is drugged . She wakes up the next morning naked, with graffiti written all over her body in sharpie marker in the blind dates bed. She has no memory of what happened between the time she took a drink of soda the evening before and the time she woke up.
The question I have is will what happened eventually come back to her? If there was a statement made, could the her words reveal what happened?

John mcgowan said...

OT Update:

Four years later, Ayla Reynolds case still ‘open and active’

Mother Trista Reynolds and state police investigators still hope for results in the Waterville toddler's Dec. 17, 2011, disappearance as tips still arrive, one spurring searches over the summer.

WATERVILLE — This summer, police conducted several small searches in central Maine based on a tip related to the disappearance of toddler Ayla Reynolds.

It’s been four years since the 20-month-old was reported missing from the Violette Avenue home she shared with her father and her grandmother, but investigators don’t consider it a cold case.

Lt. Jeff Love, of the Maine State Police, said Friday the case is “open and active,” still under investigation, and tips continue to come in.

On Dec. 17, 2011, Ayla’s father, Justin DiPietro, reported to Waterville police that Ayla was missing from the home at 29 Violette Ave.

That report spurred what state police have said is the largest criminal investigation in state history, drawing hundreds of police officers from around the state to Waterville in the immediate aftermath of her disappearance.

Dozens of searches have been conducted — both on the ground and in the waterways that surround Waterville — and although police have said they believe Ayla is no longer alive, they have not given up on searching for her.

Love, who was the lead investigator on the case and now supervises the investigative team, wouldn’t give details on this summer’s searches but said they were spurred by a tip.

He said the detectives assigned to the case review the tips as they continue to come, following up on them to determine whether they are credible and whether they can apply to previous investigative work done over the last four years.

Those searches were the first in the case since Oct. 23, 2013, when police searched the woods off of Hussey Hill Road in Oakland. That one turned up only animal bones.

Love declined to comment on the nature of the searches this summer, or the tip that spurred them, and he also didn’t say whether the searches produced any new leads or evidence.

NO ANSWERS

Four years later, the Reynolds family still has no answers.

Ayla’s mother, Trista Reynolds, said she has not talked to police since November, when she heard that DiPietro had been arrested for operating under the influence in the Lincoln County town of Newcastle.

“I asked the same questions I always ask. ‘Is there anything new? Any new leads? Is there anything you can tell me?'” said Reynolds, 27, of Portland.

“I get the same answers I’ve gotten pretty much for the last four years, that there are still leads coming in, they’re still working on it, but nothing that has gotten them to actually solve her case yet.”

Cont..

John mcgowan said...

Cont..

“This year marks a lot,” said she said. “It’s not just the four-year anniversary, but it’s also been four years since we had a Halloween with her, four years since we had a Thanksgiving with her and now it also marks five years that we don’t share a Christmas with her. It’s really rough.”

Reynolds said she and her family, including her two sons, Raymond — who is 4 and still asks for his “sissy” — and Anthony, 2, will quietly acknowledge the anniversary of Ayla’s disappearance this week, though a rally in her memory is being planned around the time of Ayla’s sixth birthday in April.

Reynolds also laments that this is the year she would have started kindergarten and says she misses the chance to watch her daughter grow up.

“Next year for her five-year anniversary, if we have no answers and we’re in the same place we’ve been for the last four years, we’ll do something big,” Reynolds said.

Reynolds, who in the past has organized walks and rallies in memory of her daughter, told the Morning Sentinel in March that she was trying to focus on raising her two young sons and protect them from the public eye.

“I’m just doing something with my sons and my family,” she said in March shortly before Ayla’s fifth birthday on April 4. “I’m not doing anything involving a bunch of people. It has been a rough couple of weeks. I’m just kind of needing my space this year.”

ONLY SILENCE

The investigative team has heard only silence from DiPietro and the others who were at the Violette Avenue home the night of Dec. 16, 2011, and the next morning. Ayla reportedly was seen last by her aunt, Elisha Dipietro, around 10 p.m. when she checked on the sleeping toddler in her bedroom.

“There has been no follow-up communication. They have not called us, or have we reached out to them,” Love said.

At the time of DiPietro’s arrest last month, the Lincoln County Sheriff’s Office listed him as living in Waterville.

DiPietro could not be reached for comment last week. His mother, Phoebe DiPietro, who owns the house and was not home the night Ayla was seen last, also did not respond to a request for comment.

Reynolds said she has not spoken to DiPietro in three years and was not sure where he was living or how he was doing.

At the time of Ayla’s disappearance, DiPietro told police that he believed someone had abducted his daughter from the house and that he awoke on the morning of Dec.17 to find her missing. Police, however, believe it is highly unlikely that Ayla is alive and do not believe she was kidnapped.

DiPietro told the Morning Sentinel in April 2012 that he was doing all he could to “stay positive.”

“Every day doesn’t get any easier for me,” he said at the time. “Just please, please keep your eyes open and don’t stop, and we will get her home.”

Reynolds meanwhile has maintained that DiPietro; his sister, Elisha DiPietro; and his then-girlfriend, Courtney Roberts, are responsible for Ayla’s disappearance and has pushed for the Office of the Maine Attorney General to bring charges against them.

A COLD CASE?

In April, Reynolds was among advocates calling for the formation of the state’s new cold case squad.

“I don’t want to be one of those moms 30 years from now not knowing what happened,” Reynolds said at a State House news conference. “With all the help of every parent that has a missing child, we should try and get it funded so we can bring our children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews home.”

She said Friday that police have not yet marked Ayla’s case as a cold case and she was not sure whether it ever would be.

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John mcgowan said...

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“Whoever solves her case, I don’t really care. I just want it solved,” Reynolds said. “I want answers. I want people behind bars and I want to be able to bring her home and give her the proper burial that she deserves, because I’ve gone four years not knowing. I’ve gone four years not hearing her voice or watching her grow up.”

There are no clear rules for what defines a cold case, and while Ayla’s case has not been labeled as such, it is an example of an unsolved case in Maine that could be looked at by the new cold case squad, Love said. There are more than 70 unsolved homicides in Maine.

Funding for the new squad was approved in June, but it has yet to be fully formed, with the appointment of two additional police detectives coming just last week. Love, who was named to oversee the squad last month, will be joined by Detective Jay Pelletier, who works with the State Police Major Crimes Unit North in Bangor, and Detective Brian Jacques, who works with the Major Crimes Unit Central office at the Somerset County District Attorney’s Office.

The squad also will include an assistant attorney general from the Office of the Maine Attorney General, a forensic chemist and a victim’s advocate.

Patrick Day, of Rockland, a volunteer who helped write the legislation making the squad possible, said that while Ayla’s case has not been deemed a cold case officially, it is an example of a case that could benefit from the review of the new cold case squad.

“A lot of these missing people have been missing for 10, 20 or 30 years,” Day said. “As is the case with a lot of missing persons, no one believes Ayla Reynolds is alive. No one. So even though she’s listed as a missing person, she certainly also should be considered an unsolved homicide.”

Day also is involved in planning the April rally for Ayla, which he said was inspired after last summer’s discovery of the body of a 2-year-old child in Boston area, Bella Bond. Investigators looked at Ayla’s case and cases of other missing children before it was determined that the body, found on a Boston beach, was Bella, bringing other missing-children cases back into the spotlight.

The rally is planned for early April — around the time of Ayla’s birthday on April 4 — and will be in Waterville.

“I think we need to bring some attention back to Ayla Reynolds and her story,” Day said. “I think even though she’s listed as missing, the Maine State Police don’t believe she left that house alive, and we want to bring attention to that.”

Reynolds, too, said she no longer believes her daughter is alive, though she still has hope that police will find her. “My one Christmas wish would be for all three of my children to be able to sit down and open presents together and enjoy Christmas, but that doesn’t get to happen because there are still people walking the street not giving answers and not telling police what really happened,” she said.

She wants to bury Ayla someplace where she can sit and talk with her and feel as though they are together.

“I didn’t think I’d be making it to four years, and I sure didn’t think I’d be on five years not sharing a Christmas with her.”

https://www.centralmaine.com/2015/12/12/four-years-later-ayla-reynolds-case-still-open-and-active/

John mcgowan said...

OT Update:


Davey Blackburn
20 hrs · Twitter ·

Jesus is a master surgeon. Though it may be painful, trust His healing scalpel"

He does have a knack of choosing the most inappropriate words!

https://www.facebook.com/daveyblackburn

Anonymous said...

As she stated: we abandon human rights if favor of political correctness.

The ignorance they are forced to grow up in when war breaks out and children are taught such things as beheading, stoning, etc. to favor a god that would appear to have left them. They carry those precepts with them into adulthood.

Our national climate is quickly becoming one of religion (of whatever flavor) being used for politics based on numbers.

They try fruitlessly to terrorize certain segments and have the gall to label it research.

martin durfey said...

Thank you Peter.

Anonymous said...

Watched the whole thing. Almost makes me want Trump for President. People would rather avoid being politically incorrect, than to stand up for human rights. Why is it seen as politically incorrect to be opposed to horrible violations of human rights? Because the crimes are committed within a religion, and because this country was founded on religious freedom? How did everybody get so confused? Why are liberals telling us lies about this? Is it cowardice, or is it something worse? Wow, are those numbers accurate? I'm going to have to check out that website.

Jen Ow said...

Thank you for sharing this Peter, and I am thankful that this woman has the courage to speak on this topic. Nobody can argue that she is uninformed, or 'bigoted', so how will they answer her?

Common sense, and respectful debate/discussion has gone out the window on this issue, and as she said, this is the most important issue we are facing! If we can't speak frankly, and without a false pollyanna filter, it will be to our own detriment.

Anonymous said...

Quote posted on the Clarion Project website:

"Extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. This is a real problem that Muslims must confront, without excuse.”

- Barack Obama
President, United States of America

maudes harold said...

I wanted to know beyond what Reel was saying. She signed this.

http://aifdemocracy.org/declaration-of-the-muslim-reform-movement-signed-by-aifd-december-4-2015/

MUSLIM REFORM MOVEMENT

Preamble

We are Muslims who live in the 21st century. We stand for a respectful, merciful and inclusive interpretation of Islam. We are in a battle for the soul of Islam, and an Islamic renewal must defeat the ideology of Islamism, or politicized Islam, which seeks to create Islamic states, as well as an Islamic caliphate. We seek to reclaim the progressive spirit with which Islam was born in the 7th century to fast forward it into the 21st century. We support the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted by United Nations member states in 1948.

We reject interpretations of Islam that call for any violence, social injustice and politicized Islam. Facing the threat of terrorism, intolerance, and social injustice in the name of Islam, we have reflected on how we can transform our communities based on three principles: peace, human rights and secular governance. We are announcing today the formation of an international initiative: the Muslim Reform Movement.

We have courageous reformers from around the world who have written our Declaration for Muslim Reform, a living document that we will continue to enhance as our journey continues. We invite our fellow Muslims and neighbors to join us.
DECLARATION


A. Peace: National Security, Counterterrorism and Foreign Policy

We stand for universal peace, love and compassion. We reject violent jihad. We believe we must target the ideology of violent Islamist extremism, in order to liberate individuals from the scourge of oppression and terrorism both in Muslim-majority societies and the West.
We stand for the protection of all people of all faiths and non-faith who seek freedom from dictatorships, theocracies and Islamist extremists.
We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression.


B. Human Rights: Women’s Rights and Minority Rights

We stand for human rights and justice. We support equal rights and dignity for all people, including minorities. We support the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.
We reject tribalism, castes, monarchies and patriarchies and consider all people equal with no birth rights other than human rights. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. Muslims don’t have an exclusive right to “heaven.”
We support equal rights for women, including equal rights to inheritance, witness, work, mobility, personal law, education, and employment. Men and women have equal rights in mosques, boards, leadership and all spheres of society. We reject sexism and misogyny.


cont.

maudes harold said...

C. Secular Governance: Freedom of Speech and Religion

We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty. We are against political movements in the name of religion. We separate mosque and state. We are loyal to the nations in which we live. We reject the idea of the Islamic state. There is no need for an Islamic caliphate. We oppose institutionalized sharia. Sharia is manmade.
We believe in life, joy, free speech and the beauty all around us. Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights. We reject blasphemy laws. They are a cover for the restriction of freedom of speech and religion. We affirm every individual’s right to participate equally in ijtihad, or critical thinking, and we seek a revival of ijtihad.
We believe in freedom of religion and the right of all people to express and practice their faith, or non-faith, without threat of intimidation, persecution, discrimination or violence. Apostasy is not a crime. Our ummah–our community–is not just Muslims, but all of humanity.



We stand for peace, human rights and secular governance. Please stand with us!



Affirmed this Fourth Day of December, Two-Thousand and Fifteen

By the founding authors who are signatories below



#MuslimReform

Twitter: @TheMuslimReform

Instagram: @TheMuslimReform

Facebook: Muslim Reform Movement

Email: MuslimReformMovement@gmail.com

Website: www.MuslimReformMovement.org

Please sign our declaration at www.change.org



Founding Signatories



Tahir Gora,

Author, Journalist, Activist, Toronto, Canada

Tawfik Hamid

Islamic Thinker and Reformer, Oakton, VA, USA

Usama Hasan

Imam, Quilliam Foundation, London, UK

Arif Humayun

Senior Fellow, American Islamic Forum for Democracy, Portland, OR, USA

Farahnaz Ispahani

Author, Former Member of Parliament, Pakistan, Washington, D.C., USA,

M. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D.

President, American Islamic Forum for Democracy, Phoenix, AZ USA

Mohamad Jebara

Imam, Cordova Center, Ottawa, Canada

Naser Khader

Member, Danish Parliament, Muslim democracy activist, Copenhagen, Denmark

Courtney Lonergan

Community Outreach Director, American Islamic Forum for Democracy, Professional facilitator

Hasan Mahmud

Resident expert in sharia, Muslims Facing Tomorrow, Toronto, Canada

Asra Nomani

Journalist, Author, Morgantown, WV, USA

Raheel Raza

Founder, Muslims Facing Tomorrow, Toronto, Canada

Sohail Raza

Vice President, Coalition of Progressive Canadian Muslim Organizations

Salma Siddiqui

President, Coalition of Progressive Canadian Muslim Organizations, Toronto, Canada

maudes harold said...

*oopps that should be Raheel Raza, can't transpose...

Peter Hyatt said...

If you've struggled with the meaning of the word, this will make sense


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/12/dhimmitude_and_trump.html


Dhimmitude

This may open eyes.

Peter

maudes harold said...

"We reject violent jihad."-----My question is what is their definition of jihad (I've read many)and in relation to 'violent' jihad?



"We oppose institutionalized sharia."---Does that mean that they accept or agree w/ any version of Sharia besides 'institutionalized'?

Anonymous said...

Interesting video.


It strikes me that I think the Muslim faith does not seem to foster forgiveness or unconditional love.

In high school 25 years ago I had a close guy friend who was Muslim. I remember one time he and I were driving around after school in his car that he had worked to earn money to pay for. We were driving around talking and laughing down some winding country roads. He happened to hit the side of his tire against some large rocks on the side of the road as he made a turn, denting one of his hubcaps. I will never forget how terrified he became of what his father's reaction would be that he had dented one of the hubcaps on his own car while simply driving around. As I prodded for answers of why would his Dad be so mad, as he had not been doing anything wrong, I was unable to calm down his fear and he became so petrified he said he could not return home. Apparently he was not allowed to do anything after school, so he had lied and said he was at work. I yelled at him to just calm down, that it didn't make any sense why he was so scared!!! He said to me "You don't understand!" I have never seen someone so terrified, so I took pity on him and asked my Dad to help us, because (-----) was too scared to return home. We had to make it look like the hubcap hadn't been damaged. So we called around and found a tire place that was open and my Dad paid $50 to have the hubcap replaced. I said "Do you feel better? Your Dad can't tell now that you were driving around." He said "maybe a little" and had a look of terror on his face, had calmed down slightly but the fear was still there. It certainly left an impression on me that he was growing up in a much stricter environment than me and my father actually was very strict! It really seems like there is just not much wiggle room for making mistakes or disobeying in that culture. Maybe the Christian faith is more forgiving and I think that might be a very good thing!

Juliet said...

I think the video is constructive, and should be welcomed, along with The Clarion Project and all the other measured initiatives which seek to address the threat of radicalisation and extremism. Efforts in which Muslims seek to inform other Muslims, and the wider public, are most helpful in allowing the moderate Muslim voice to be better heard.

Terrible as the daily news reports of Islamist atrocities are, perhaps they will also turn out to be the necessary catalyst for the reform of Islam from within - ('never say never, and there's no such word as can't').

For anyone's interest, I found a letter written by an American Muslim woman who enquired, 'Why can't Islam be reformed?' along with the rather hideous response from a former Muslim who does not believe a reform of Islam is possible:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50116.htm

An angry person who also doesn't think much to the idea;

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe

So pessimistic, which I don't believe is necessary. I'm with the hopeful people, who do believe that Islam can and will undergo a reformation - religion has always been good at bypassing the inconvenient bits (evolving) in the greater interests of reason and comfortable living, so I don't see why Islam and its followers shouldn't be able to manage that, too - more then, than a lot of Muslims already do.

Plus, there was Kemal Ataturk, and his spirit lives on. Life was much better under Saddam's secular rule than it is now for the women of Iraq*- it can be better again. On the downside of chucking out the inconvenient bits, there's Perry Noble and the Ten Suggestions, but at least he's not throwing people who are gay off the top of Newspring church - bargain. Pros and cons - compromise can be good.

A while back, Peter asked a question to the effect of 'What makes people behave badly?' I can't remember the context, but my answer, or one answer is - conversations about Islam and Muslims.

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* http://muftah.org/was-life-for-iraqi-women-better-under-saddam/#.Vm41eHrfWrU


Anonymous said...

Juliet,

I don't know if Islam can be reformed. I am Christian and look how stuck in it's ways the Christian religion is. No church authorities will budge on things like a divorced individual being banned from receiving Eucharist. Women can't be priests, and I don't believe that will be changed anytime in my lifetime (I am 41.) These religions all have over a thousand years of being stuck in their ways and those at the top of the religious leadership ladders are those who stick by the rules not those who break them. Our present Pope is quite "liberal" but have any rules actually changed? No. Perhaps in hundreds of years Islam can be reformed. It will take time. Thinking becomes so entrenched in people's minds. Plus, even as a Catholic, sometimes I wonder if some of our rules are just so certain people can feel superior like "I'm no divorced. Haha! I can receive the Eucharist!" Same in other religions, people just want to feel like they are superior to those who are not "obeying" the "rules". Unfortunately, it may be a part of religion itself is the desire to feel superior to others or to feel self-satisfied, the very opposite of what Jesus taught but Hey that's how it is!

lynda said...

Thank you Peter for posting this video. I also posted on my FB. It was enlightening to see the actual numbers, the breakdown of different views, and with the breakdown how many that "percentage" actually stood for. This woman is very courageous, well-spoken, and has stellar credentials so I feel I can actually BELIEVE this video. So much out there has an agenda that we just don't know exists and the facts and numbers are twisted. Again, thanks for posting this.It has made me well-informed in an area that I felt confusion about.

Juliet said...

Anon @ 11.28 - It's sometimes said that Catholics not being able to receive the Eucharist due to divorce is (these days) a greater cause for scandal than that people would be scandalised if divorced people were to be admitted - the Church lags behind in its compassion, and it is often thus. I can't imagine what that would be like, to be denied the sacrament, and with no apparent hope of that ever changing - it would be soul-destroying for a devout Catholic, like a lifelong punishment (is it intended as such?). I don't get what that has to do with being a child loved of God, to be excluded in such a way, and for the rest of a person's life. I'd chuck that one in the shredder yesterday, if I were Pope Francis, except I wouldn't be able to, no more than he is able. ('Rule on rule, rule on rule, line on line, a little here, a little there'.)

Though even blessed Pope Francis says 'No - that door is closed', they are sure to have priests who are women once the male vocations finally dry up, and once they've made sure the world didn't really end for the Episcopalians with Katherine Jefferts Schori. It's only doctrine, and a doctrine can be developed.
Islam has to have some advantage in not having a Pope, at least. I can't think of what the advantage might be, but there's sure to be one.

People who speak about emotional intelligence don't always act like they always have it. Well, I find it incredible that the Church can stand between a divorced man or woman and their God in denying the sacrament, when the same sacrament is available to a murderer who repents (well, so long as he or she isn't divorced, which would put him/her beyond the pale). There has to be something at least a bit amiss there - like guys making up rule on rule to the detriment of common sense and to people's spiritual and psychological well-being.

I think religious people do sometimes fall into the trap of finding themselves to be morally superior - celibate priests, well, some of them are a breed apart.

Bas (The Netherlands) said...

He/she only opposes the institutionalized sharia. He/she might accept other forms of sharia. Same goes for the "violent" jihad quote.

lynda said...

Juliet...I don't know how it is there, but where I live in Ohio..the divorced Catholic receives communion, and also can remarry in the church, my sister was 7 months pregnant waddling down a Catholic church aisle..Catholic Churches around here don't even talk above excommunicating people from the church because of divorce.

Anonymous said...

ot

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/kill-all-children-with-down-s-syndrome-isis-sharia-judge/story-qWwH210IbqZN47CEBynKjM.html

Jen Ow said...

Agreed! There is no requirement banning a divorced person from receiving the Eucharist at my church.

The only thing I have ever heard on the topic is that any person with "the burden on sin" should attend reconciliation before partaking in the Eucharist...but nobody is withholding the Eucharist, or turning people away from receiving it.

One of my best friends got pregnant while unmarried, and still in high school. She was still allowed to serve on the altar, and assist our Priest in preparing the Eucharist. It raised a stink with some of the older parishioners, but our Priest quickly put them in their place by dedicating his entire homily to the idea that the Church is a place of refuge, and acceptance...not judgement, and condemnation. The message he was sending them was easy to discern.

trustmeigetit said...

I will never understand how Justin is walking the streets. They said the amount of Ayla's blood found in his basement means she likely is deceased. It's in his basement. In the home she was last alive at.

How is that not enough evidence to get the ball rolling.

trustmeigetit said...

I hate Trump. But he's the only one that will keep them out.

People call him a racist. He's not. He's trying to protect Americans against those here illegally and coming in from countries where Americans are hated.

They have compared him to Hitler. Again no! He's only trying to protect is fr terrorists. And Jews were not terrorists out to kill anyone.

This is about terrorists not racism.

Look at Sweden. Once one of the safest places to live, now that they have a high Muslim population they have the highest rape rapes in the world.

Juliet said...

Lynda - I think in a lot of places the Church has long moved on from the strict old days - it would be a rare priest who would deny anyone the Eucharist, though there are still some horror stories. These days annulment of previous marriages and convalidation of second civil marriages is the norm, which is just as well, as the churches would be failing at an ever greater rate in view of how alienating the official teaching is. The teaching remains, but Ihe practice is different. I remember a dear lady, the most devout Catholic, who was divorced through no fault of her own, yet who was denied communion for years. She continued to go to Mass almost every day but the priest would not admit her to communion - she suffered a series of mental breakdowns, and became an alcoholic, which I account to the cruelty of that denial. The priest was happy for her to keep house for him, and for her to cook his Sunday lunch - she was not invited to share that table with him either. Bad times, and not so long ago. Abuse of power where the concept of power should not even have been.

Here, remarriage in the Anglican church has been standard for a long time - Church teaching has 'evolved' as our Archbishops like to say. It is not so long ago that people were barred from ordination on the grounds that they were divorced, or gay, but no-one bats an eyelid these days. The Church got a heart, or abandoned its teaching, some would say - I prefer that the Church got a heart because it's not any of the Churches' jobs to make anyone more miserable than they already might have been: See Jesus. :) Well, that should be the idea, methinks.

Juliet said...

The teaching is harsh - divorcees, whether they are able to partake or not, still have hanging over them the psychological cloud of what the Church 'really' thinks about them. Here's one of our National Treasures, a convert to Catholicism, speaking on the subject last year:


http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/10/15/ann-widdecombe-churchs-ban-on-communion-for-divorced-and-re-married-is-unduly-harsh/


Even good old Pope Francis can't get a yes:

...'Late Saturday, a fraught, yearlong debate by bishops over family issues came to a close with the bishops withholding support for proposed changes to the church’s treatment of divorced or gay Catholics.

A group of more than 250 bishops had been debating the church’s approach to a range of family issues, but the most contested question was whether to allow Catholics who have divorced and then remarried to receive Communion. Church law currently forbids the sacrament for divorced Catholics who have remarried without an annulment of their first marriage.

But in their final report on Saturday, the meeting of the bishops, called a synod, omitted any mention of the Communion question.

“There’s no new recommendation” on access to the sacraments for divorced Catholics, said Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington in an interview on Sunday. “It doesn’t change the law.” The cardinal was one of the 10-member panel that edited the bishops’ final document.'...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/pope-francis-weighs-response-to-setback-on-divorce-issue-1445809918


So while, at his discretion, the parish priest may quietly get round the law, it doesn't change the fact that officially, that's still the position, that divorcees are a sort of lesser Catholic than others.





John mcgowan said...

OT Update:

Bill Cosby Sues 7 Accusers for Defamation

(Don't yeah just love lawyers!!)

Bill Cosby filed a defamation counter-suit today against seven women who previously accused him of sexual misconduct.

The comedian's lawyer, Monique Pressley, said in a statement obtained by ABC News that Tamara Green, Therese Serignese, Linda Traitz, Louisa Moritz, Barbara Bowman, Joan Tarshis and Angela Leslie have made "malicious, opportunistic and false and defamatory" comments about him.

The lawsuit was filed today in United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Western Division, Pressley said.

Green, who in 2006 told People magazine that Cosby drugged and groped her, filed a defamation suit against Cosby last December. This year, Serignese, Traitz, Moritz, Bowman, Tarshis and Leslie joined the suit.

"Mr. Cosby states plainly that he neither drugged nor sexually assaulted the defendants and that each defendant has maliciously and knowingly published multiple false statements and accusations from Fall 2014 through the current day in an effort to cause damage to Mr. Cosby's reputation and extract financial gains," Pressley stated. "Mr. Cosby's suit further states that defendants' multi-decade old, false, uncorroborated, opportunistic allegations of sexual assault have caused and continue to cause him to suffer substantial injuries and damages to reputation, business contracts, shame, mortifications, damages to property, business, trade, profession and occupation."

Cosby, 78, has been accused by dozens of women of sexual assault, drugging, or rape. Through his attorneys, he has repeatedly denied allegations of wrongdoing and has never been charged with a crime.

"Mr. Cosby now requests that the federal court provide him relief from the defendants' intentional campaign to assassinate his character for their own financial gain by awarding him compensatory and punitive damages to the maximum extent permitted by law, by permanently enjoining defendants from continuing their intentional, extreme, outrageous and morally repugnant conduct, and by requiring them to publicly retract and correct their defamatory statements," his lawyer added.

Lawyers for the seven women have not yet responded to a request by ABC News for comment.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bill-cosby-sues-accusers-defamation/story?id=35760449

Vance Holmes said...

Nobody objected to political correctness when Indians were being slaughtered, Black people were enslaved or Mexicans were routinely terrorized and murdered for their land. Until the 1920s, it was politically correct to deny women the basic right to vote. Civil rights legislation didn't happen until the 1960s. But, now suddenly, being correct is a huge offense and everyone wants a return to the good old days.

Anonymous said...

John McGowen posted:

"Mr. Cosby's suit further states that defendants' multi-decade old, false, uncorroborated, opportunistic allegations of sexual assault have caused and continue to cause him to suffer substantial injuries and damages to reputation, business contracts, shame, mortifications, damages to property, business, trade, profession and occupation."

Cause him to suffer substantial...shame.... How can you suffer from shame if you are innocent? A very odd choice of wording. I know his lawyer probably wrote this, but it certainly is telling and very well could have been spoken by Cosby during discussions and was repeated.

Lemon said...

Sharia in action - (Warning: Disturbing)

snipped:

"According to the Iraqi activist blog Mosul Eye, sharia judges have ruled that ISIS followers are authorized to kill infants with Down Syndrome or congenital deformities. Already since the religious decree (fatwa) was issued, militants have killed at least 38 children between one week and three months old by lethal injection or suffocation." ...

" The group says it has monitored the deaths of several children with Down Syndrome and congenital deformities. They learned of an “Oral Fatwa” issued by the sharia board of the Islamic State authorizing its members to “kill newborn babies with Down’s [sic] Syndrome and congenital deformities and disabled children.” " ...

"The Fatwa was issued by a Saudi sharia judge named Abu Said Aljazrawi.

The post also reports that most of the children born with Down Syndrome have been the offspring of foreign fighters who married Iraqi, Syrian and Asian women.

“We recorded more than 38 confirmed cases of killing babies with congenital deformities and Down’s Syndrome, aged between one week to three months. They were killed by either lethel injection or suffocation,” they said. "...

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/14/islamic-state-issues-fatwa-children-syndrome-murders-38-disabled-infants/

Juliet said...

Meanwhile, in other news: Jews sacrifice Gentile babies and mince them up for Passover matzo and MacDonald's burgers.

https://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/2012/10/25/why-the-jews-sacrifice-babies-and-eat-gentile-blood-in-the-matzo/

I'd say the Down Syndrome Fatwa also sounds a bit like old-fashioned propaganda, but that's just me.

tania cadogan said...

off topic

The trial began with gospel music ringing through the Belfast courtroom, where a DVD recording of the entire service in May 2014 was played.

He was questioned by police shortly after the church service, but no action was taken.

However, because the sermon had been streamed online, he now faces two charges under the Communications Act (2003).

In a landmark case, he is charged with improper use of a public electronic communications network and causing a grossly offensive message to be sent by means of a public electronic communications network.

On arrival at court, he said it was "a good day for a hanging, particularly to hang the prosecutors".

Around 100 of his congregation packed the public gallery. They greeted him with applause while others sang hymns outside.

In his opening speech, prosecutor David Russell said the decision to proceed with the case was "proportionate and necessary".

He said the pastor "characterises the followers of an entire religion in a stereotypical way and that's grossly offensive and that’s not protected from saying it in a pulpit".

"It has nothing to do with religion or freedom of expression of his freedom to preach," he added.

The prosecution said they would present extracts from radio and television interviews the pastor had given as circumstantial evidence.

The court was told that in a prepared statement given to police during interview, Pastor McConnell said he had not intended to cause offence, insult, arouse fear or stir up tension.

The defence intends calling an MP, a Catholic priest and an Imam to give evidence on the pastor's behalf.

Dr Al-Hussaini, a Muslim cleric from London, says he does not agree with what Pastor McConnell said but defends his right to say it.

Pastor McConnell, who strenuously denies the charges, faces up to six months in prison if convicted.

http://news.sky.com/story/1605677/pastor-on-trial-over-satanic-islam-sermon


I am not holding my breathe for when muslims get prosecuted for saying the same thing about christianity, homosexuality, the west in general.

tania cadogan said...

"Mr. Cosby states plainly that he neither drugged nor sexually assaulted the defendants and that each defendant has maliciously and knowingly published multiple false statements and accusations from Fall 2014 through the current day in an effort to cause damage to Mr. Cosby's reputation and extract financial gains," Pressley stated. "Mr. Cosby's suit further states that defendants' multi-decade old, false, uncorroborated, opportunistic allegations of sexual assault have caused and continue to cause him to suffer substantial injuries and damages to reputation, business contracts, shame, mortifications, damages to property, business, trade, profession and occupation..

I spy with my little eye something missing beginning with R

Reliable denial :)

I can state the moon is made of blue cheese, it doesn't make it so (it's green cheese)

Note the use of the qualifier plainly
Note he says neither rather than the expected and stronger did not

It strikes me as odd that his lawyer says false, uncorroborated, opportunistic allegations of sexual assault
Why the need to include uncorroborated?
If the allegations are false then there can be no corroboration.
If there is no corroboration then it is entirely possible that the assaults took place as claimed but there is little to nothing to prove they did.

I would ask for his definition of corroboration.
Does he mean physical evidence (it could be explained away as consensual as opposed to non consensual_
Does he mean she reported it to law enforcement?
Does he mean she reported it to someone else such as family or friend, counselor etc?

Juliet said...

Here's Pastor James McConnell's sermon:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UUJFIMciQA8

I can't believe some people willingly subject themselves to this of a Sunday morning.

tania cadogan said...

off topic

A teacher who claimed he was stabbed by a masked raider citing Islamic State has admitted making it all up, according to French prosecutors.

The 45-year-old sparked a manhunt on Monday after telling police an assailant burst into his classroom before lessons began at the kindergarten in Aubervilliers, northern Paris.

The teacher had claimed the raider attacked him with a box cutter and scissors found in the classroom and said: "This is Daesh (IS), it's a warning."

An official said: "He is being interviewed with a view to establishing the reasons for this invented story."

The teacher was taken to hospital after being stabbed in the side and throat. It is now unclear how he got his injuries, which were not life-threatening.

The French capital has been on a heightened state of alert in the wake of the recent atrocities claimed by IS.

A total of 130 people were killed in a series of coordinated attacks by gunmen and suicide bombers on the Stade de France, the Bataclan concert hall and restaurants in the French capital on 13 November.

The terror group, which control swathes of Syria and Iraq, had vowed to attack France which is a member of the US-led coalition carrying out airstrikes against it.

Jihadists have also made specific threats against teachers in France, with propaganda material claiming they were "enemies of Allah" and that schools cultivated "ignorance and moral corruption" in children.

The authorities said this threat had been taken into account and safety instructions had been issued to educational establishments, including bag checks.

Education Minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the terrorist threat was "real and permanent (and) all public places deserve protection, particularly schools".

"We will continue to reinforce security measures at schools in a context where schools feel threatened," she said.

In March 2012, gunman Mohamed Merah killed three children and a teacher outside a Jewish school in an attack which also led to the deaths of three paratroopers.

http://news.sky.com/story/1605439/french-teacher-admits-lying-about-is-stabbing

Juliet said...

He's having a go at Prince Charles, too - now that's uncalled for.

tania cadogan said...

Off topic .

Funny as heck and everyone needs a giggle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUdZ2VkG30


Jeanne Robertson can bring me to tears of laughter.

Anonymous said...

Jen Ow,

If your church is a Roman Catholic Church, then there is a requirement the divorced person be banned from receiving Eucharist. Your priest may not enforce the rule, but that doesn't change the rule.
I think it is absolutely horrendous that the church has this rule. Including for women who divorce abusive men.
It is all the same, religions have some of these rules so some can feel "superior".
I attend a Roman Catholic Church, I don't think I'm supposed to be receiving Eucharist because I had a child out of "wedlock" 15 years ago and my son happens to be very involved in helping out at the church. I think I'm supposed to "repent", that will never happen. If they ever approach me and tell me not to receive communion I will be out of there so quick. I already know one woman who has been reprimanded in a nearby community for receiving communion because she is divorced and told she can not receive it. Also I know a woman in our church who is divorced whose relatives tell her she cannot receive communion.
It is very disturbing.
Also, although I don't agree with abortion, it is very offputting to me the way the church has "adopt an unborn baby" campaign going on, so you are encouraged every mass to adopt a hypothetical baby to save it from a hypothetical abortion. Can you imagine how uncomfortable that would make a woman who has had an abortion who needs healing more than anyone there needs to adopt a hypothetical unborn baby? I explained to my son...sometimes people try to be so "good" that it's bad.
We rightly criticize more brutal enforcement of religious rules which we clearly are able to identify in other religions, however Christianity has it's own.
Juliet expressed it well when she says it is soul-destroying to the individual "banned" from Eucharist bc of divorce.
I will gladly leave if anyone ever says a word to me at the church I attend and attend the Unitarian Church. The only reason I am there is because of Jesus, not all the stupid rules.
Maybe the same for some Muslims...maybe they are there for Allah and don't like all the other stupid rules.

tania cadogan said...

Another off topic

A Georgia man facing murder charges in the death of his 22-month-old son is trying to get evidence showing he was sexting an underage girl at the time of the young boy's death thrown out of court

Justin Ross Harris, 34, is charged with intentionally leaving his son Cooper in a hot SUV for about seven hours on a day in the summer of 2014 when temperatures reached at least into the high 80s.

Prosecutors claim that Harris was sexting an underage girl while he was working in the Atlanta area that day and that he had previously researched how long it takes to die in a hot vehicle.

Defense lawyers filed a 35-page motion Monday arguing police violated Harris' Fourth Amendment rights by seizing and searching his cell phone and computers without probable cause or a warrant.

The attorneys are trying to suppress the electronic evidence filed against him, according to WTOC.

Cobb Police Detective Jacquelyn Piper testified on Monday Harris was arrested at the scene of his son's death after he became confrontational with a cop, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported.

Harris, who was not a suspect at the time, refused to stop talking on his phone and swore at an officer, so he was placed in handcuffs and his phone was confiscated and subsequently searched.

Lawyers for Harris claim the evidence is not admissible in court because of how it was obtained.

Defense attorney Bryan Lumpkin said: 'They wanted to go on a fishing expedition and see what they could find.

'Supreme Court says that's improper, we believe that's improper.'

Defense attorney Maddox Kilgore had previously argued the sexually explicit online conversations with the underage girl are unrelated to the murder and child cruelty charges Harris faces.

But Cobb County Superior Court Judge Mary Staley ruled against him, agreeing with the prosecution that those alleged actions can provide evidence of a motive for the murder charges and can demonstrate Harris' state of mind leading up to and on the day of the boy's death.

The medical examiner's office has said the boy died of hyperthermia — essentially overheating — and called his death a homicide.

Harris was indicted in September 2014 on multiple charges, including malice murder, felony murder and cruelty to children.

The eight-count indictment also included charges related to accusations that Harris tried to get an underage girl to send him a photo of her genitalia, had sexually explicit online conversations with her and sent her a sexually explicit photo.

Harris pleaded not guilty, and his lawyers have repeatedly said the toddler's death was a tragic mistake.

'The state wants to bootstrap every bad act they can come up with to suggest some grand scheme that doesn't exist,' Kilgore said as he argued for a separate trial on the sexting charges.

Cobb County police Det Phil Stoddard testified during the hearing that on the day his son died, Harris had multiple online and in-person affairs and exchanged messages with six women, including the underage girl.

There was evidence Harris was unhappy in his family life and had said if it weren't for his son, he would leave his wife, Stoddard testified under questioning by Assistant District Attorney Chuck Boring.

tania cadogan said...

cont.

Stoddard acknowledged when questioned by Kilgore that the underage girl told him that she knew Harris loved Cooper a lot, talked about how smart and handsome he was and would never do anything to hurt him.

The girl also told Stoddard that Harris said he loved his wife and would never leave her.

Even if all the allegations of conversations and relationships with other women are true, which the defense disputes, that does not amount to a motive for murder or prove that Harris wanted his son dead, Kilgore argued.
Police said that Harris (seen right in court in September) had researched how long it takes to die in a hot car

Boring countered that Harris had had numerous affairs both online and in-person, at least one of which was serious enough for him to tell a woman he loved her.

Harris wanted to be free of his family and free to pursue other relationships, Boring said

As he sat with his son at a fast-food restaurant the morning of the boy's death, Harris responded to an anonymous post on the social media platform Whisper in which a user says she's tired of being married with kids, Stoddard said.

Harris responded that he misses having time to himself and said his wife gets upset when he goes out with friends.

'I love my son and all, but we both need escapes,' Harris wrote in his response, Stoddard testified.

Harris is a native of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and moved to Georgia in 2012 to work for Home Depot.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3360125/Lawyers-Justin-Ross-Harris-trying-sexting-underage-girl-evidence-thrown-court.html

Jen Ow said...

Exactly!

Anonymous said...

OT: AHA! Big fight coming on tonight out in Las Vegas between Cruz vs Trump.

I hope Trump beats the shyt outta Cruz. Nothing particularly personal against Cruz, I understand he's a smart man; no quarrel with this. Not especially 'in-love' with Trump either; HOWEVER, haven't they ALL, everyone in Congress and the House of Reps, and in every other facet of elected officials, both Dem wits AND Repugs; had the opportunity time and again to actually DO something that helps us in this country but somehow never did? Haven't they only helped themselves?

I think this pretty much says it all. Just my humble opinion, FWIW. ABB

Peter Hyatt said...

I am looking for the European Holocaust museum article where Jews stay away and the local government hired only Muslims to work there. The article showed that it is empty, day by day, and the local Jews were refused employment there as it would have 'upset' Muslim sensitivities.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Gee Peter. I'm not familiar with this one. Sorry. ABB

Jen Ow said...

Hi Anon,

My Church is Roman Catholic, but as far as I know it is not enforced throughout our entire diocese. My Church alone, has 6 locations in our region, and they are serviced by 5 different Priests.

I've heard plenty of discussion by older parishioners about why so-and-so shouldn't be receiving communion, but it's the person's choice within their own conscience. Our Priest has said if a person feels 'the burden of sin', then they should offer confession, BUT he has also said that we are all sinners, and the entire idea of restricting the Eucharist from 'sinners' basically negates the entire reason for it's existence. (Christ gave his own body for the forgiveness of our sins.)

As for me, I don't care who takes it! It's not my place to question if they are worthy of the sacrament, that's WAY above my pay grade! ;-)

As I mentioned, it's mostly the older members of our parish that stay hung up on these issues. They may find themselves, or their loved ones, in the same position one day, and if so I pray their eyes and hearts are opened so that they will not alienate their own family in favor of faceless doctrine.

Dane said...

OT:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tamala-wells-one-less-headache_566b0708e4b0f290e522f3bd

Juliet said...

Peter - so far, I have found only this reference to 'Jews need not bother applying for the job' (of director of the Anne Frank Museum in Amseterdam) - it's from a long article in The Article. Perhaps this is where the claim originated from? It does not say that only Muslims are employed.


http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/


'l began the interview with a faux pas. A very large number of curators, guides, and directors in European Jewish museums, in my experience, are not Jewish. This is due in part to the general lack of Jews, and to the very large number of museums—Europe is a vast archipelago of Jewish museums. And yet somehow I made the assumption that Hinterleitner was Jewish.

“I’m Austrian, actually.” He didn’t know how many employees at the museum were Jewish, but, he said, “there are some people who have Jewish lineage.” He then added, in what I took to be an effort to explain my initial confusion, “Some people here think I’m Jewish, because I’m dark and I have a big nose.”

The Anne Frank House has never had a Jewish director (though Hinterleitner pointed out that at least two members of the board must have a “Jewish background”), and I would learn later that it is widely understood in Amsterdam’s Jewish community that Jews should not bother applying for the job. Hinterleitner said that the museum addresses anti-Semitism in the context of larger societal ills, but also that it recently issued a strong press statement condemning anti-Semitic acts in the Netherlands and elsewhere. He said the museum has made an intensive study of anti-Semitism in the Netherlands, and has learned that most verbal expressions of anti-Semitism in secondary schools come from boys and are related to soccer.

The Anne Frank House is merely a simulacrum of a Jewish institution in part because, as its head of communications told me, Anne’s father said that her diary “wasn’t about being Jewish,” but also, Hinterleitner suggested, because a museum devoted too obsessively to the details of a particular genocide might not draw visitors in sufficient numbers. “We want people to be interested in this issue, people from all walks of life. So we talk about the universal components of Anne Frank’s story as well. Our work is about tolerance and understanding.”

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The Swedish museum, there is just the one, in Stockholm - it appears to have a Jewish director. I haven't, so far, found anything to support the claim that only Muslims are employed there or that Jews do not visit.

I found this directory of Jewish museums:
http://www.science.co.il/Jewish-Museums.asp

And these LinkedIn profiles of directors - a fair number Jewish, going on the names:
https://www.linkedin.com/title/director,-the-jewish-museum

Juliet said...

The Atlantic - not The Article - auto incorrect.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHLcrfhwPtc

Bottle Cap said...

For analysis:

"Today. On a crowded bus. On Michigan Avenue. On my way home from a great job in a city in a diverse country that I was born in. A man screamed at me. Called me a sand ni**er. Told me I was the problem. That I need to get the fuck out of his country,” wrote 27-year-old Sharareh Delara Drury, a Chicago-based Iranian-American writer and editor in a Facebook post on Monday. "I may have been wearing my scarf higher on my head than usual because it was cold out. I may have somehow looked suspicious listening to Spotify. I am half Iranian, so maybe it was my skin or my eyes."

The man in question didn’t just stop at verbal abuse, Drury wrote; he also spit at her.

"Then this man spits at me. A man in a suit and tie. Like anyone else I'd see. He spits at me and looks at me with these regular eyes now filled with anger and tells me to get the fuck off the bus, do what I'm told, because this isn't my country. This isn't my place," Drury wrote.

http://www.refinery29.com/2015/12/99388/muslim-woman-facebook-response-antimuslim-abuse#slide

By the way, Drury is not Muslim.

A lot of doubters in the comments section in the above link.

Why would she look suspicious listening to Spotify?

Juliet said...

Peter - still looking, at intervals - maybe this is where it originated from - it seems quite likely, but one would probably need to visit in person and talk to the staff to find out if there is hostility over the manuscript - journalists and Wiki only say what they want to say:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/11/16/bosnian-jewish-museum-reopens-political-pressure.html

'They see this as a Muslim museum,” Dautovic said of Bosnian Serb leaders. “But by everything the museum possesses, this is really the national museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and our collections should be cared for on the state level. This is a museum of our state — if we have a state — and it should be a factor of coherence for Bosnia.”"

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The museum’s archaeological, ethnological and natural history sections chart life in the region from ancient times through the Middle Ages and four centuries of Ottoman rule. They continue through the incorporation of Bosnia into the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the 1914 murder of Habsburg Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, which sparked World War I. From Iron Age weapons to Roman mosaics and ornate Ottoman jewelry, the museum’s 4 million artifacts tell of a rich and diverse history and of long periods of ethnic and religious cohesion periodically racked by conflict.

The museum’s greatest treasure is a Jewish book with a 600-year history of shattered social harmony and flight from persecution. The bleached calfskin manuscript is a Haggadah — a narrative of the Exodus told at Seder services during Passover — created in 14th century Spain during a time of relative peace among Christian, Muslim and Jewish communities.

The Haggadah is remarkable not only for its lavish gold and copper illustrations but also for breaking with tradition among such texts by depicting the human form and showing the world as round — a heretical notion during the Middle Ages.

This precious relic was once used as a family prayer book, and its pages are marked by wine and food stains and by a child’s scribbles. There are also notes that hint at its voyage across Europe, which began when its owners fled the Spanish Inquisition’s persecution of Jews in the 15th century. By 1609, the Haggadah was in Venice, where a censor noted on one of its pages that it was not heretical — a judgment that saved it from the book burnings held by the Catholic authorities of the time.

It is unclear when and how the manuscript reached Bosnia, but in 1894 a man named Joseph Cohen sold it for a small sum to the National Museum, where it has survived more than a century of turbulence. Local lore says the Nazis hunted for the Haggadah when they occupied Sarajevo in 1941 but were tricked by the National Museum’s Catholic director and Muslim librarian, who spirited the book into the mountains for safekeeping in a village mosque.

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It might cause problems/discontent if the museum is run by Muslims and if the Haggadah is wanted for and by the Jewish Museum - it seems the Jewish Museum, housed in Bosnia's oldest synagogue, is an annex of the National Museum. I don't know if there is any dispute round the Haggadah, but it's the type of thing which people get upset about. It was restored with funding from the UN and Jewish community - conceivably they may prefer it to be housed in the synagogue, and resent having to visit the 'Muslim' museum to see it.
There are around 1,000 Jewish people living in Bosnia and Herzegovina, so on a day to day basis, very few would be likely to visit a Museum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina


Juliet said...

Umm...I don't understand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3361640/Saudi-millionaire-cleared-raping-teenager-telling-court-accidentally-penetrated-18-year-old-tripped-fell-her.html


Is that worth analysing?