Saturday, March 19, 2016

The Arrest of Tammy and Sidney Moorer


Police arrested Tammy and Sidney Moorer and in doing so, rolled the dice with a particular hope in mind:

Sidney, now separated from Tammy, would not only confess to the murder, but would allow the Elvis family to give Heather the Christian burial she deserves, and allow the family to begin to grieve by yielding the location of the remains.  

It is easy to criticize the police (DA) for this gamble, but it was an accurate read of the characters, with, perhaps, one mistake made, yet one that might have been outside their control.  


Tammy's aggression and Sidney's submission set the stage that should they learn where the duo disposed of Heather's remains, the only chance would be in getting Sidney away from Tammy's domination, and leave him somewhat 'free' from her control.  

This was a roll of the dice that was well played, statistically, yet in hindsight, the shadow Tammy cast over him was larger than predicted and it may have been the legal machinations were just enough to allow the shadow to impact Sidney, month after month. 

This, too, reflects back to the control the much more powerful personality had upon Sidney.  This may be one of the rare domestic violence relationships in which it is the man under the control of the female, due to the threat of violence, departure, or even the withholding of the maternal coddling Sidney craves, that brought him under submission.  

Tammy's language stood in agreement with body language analysts who said she 'wore the pants' (from another era) in the relationship.  Yet, this phrase does not do justice to the power and control that she had, and has, over Sidney.  

Tammy and Sidney:  law enforcement gambled hoping to get a confession, and I think the risk was worth taking.  Not every stat works out in a single instance, but this was a good call and one that should be defended.  They know that both killed Heather and had a better profile of Tammy given to them, they might have seen how difficult it is to crack her. 

No body, tough case. 

With Sidney separated from Tammy, it would have taken stronger isolation to break the hellish bond she has over him, in hindsight, but even now, this is yet another insight into the rage poured upon the victim. 

We saw that originally Tammy attacked, boldly, the victim which statistically is something we do not see overtly.  What did this overt attack tell us?

Tammy raged against the victim, unconcerned on how much attention it would bring upon her.  

Tammy did not rage, as did the recent author of an article on Terri Horman, in order to manipulate readers; specifically women who have been cheated on by their husbands.  She showed no intent for propaganda nor emotional black mail. 

She raged. 

Her rage targeted the teenaged victim; not the adult male, further showing her dominance and view of Sidney.  He is a child to be scolded, yes, but the victim was someone who would feel Tammy's rage. 

How much rage?

Consider the following:

The isolation of Sidney from Tammy was not strong enough to break the submission.  Whether it was letters or the short encounters in court, Tammy get the powerful hold over the emasculated Sidney.  The petulant child remained confident he would be nourished by his 'mommie' figure, and, sure enough, Tammy was right:  they were released. 

The power of this bond is such that it further highlights the fury that Heather met and suffered under. It gives us even more insight into the cruelty and likely deliberate expansion of suffering and terror that Heather experienced under Tammy.  If the Facebook post did not show enough rage, the silence of Sidney further shows how only death, itself, could mitigate the suffering that the victim underwent. 

This control is everything to Tammy.  For her, it is her life and breath and she would sacrifice anyone, and anything, to keep her life.  The ultimate in narcissism, even children are neglected so she could fulfill her needs of child fantasy at Disney, in which Sidney is one of her subordinate childhood characters. 

The single most important detail: 

That Sidney would overcome this twisted maternal control, overthrow her authority and heighten the insult with a younger, and beautiful girl was to break at Tammy's very existence; her fantastical Disney fantasy world where she is always the front and center character, and there is always a happy ending, was shattered, not by Tammy's unattractive demeanor or appearance, nor even by Heather's youth and beauty:

This was, itself, bad enough, but it was not the chief source of Tammy's rage. 

Sidney shattered the magical fantasy in his exploitation of the teenaged victim. 

Sidney was, for a very short window of time, the one thing that Tammy could not abide:

Sidney was a man. 

This is something utterly destructive to the fantasy life, embedded in all things Disney where children are wisdom personified and men do not exist except in the form of darkness who must be repelled by the innocence of children.  

By seeking after the young Heather sexually, Sidney gave all the usual insults to the older woman, but as bad as this is, it was the destruction of fantasy and her control that caused Tammy to be incapable, at that time, of holding back her public rage, no matter how much suspicion it brought upon her.  Men have no place in the fantastical yarn, except for sinister roles. 

When she had control over the victim, it was a regaining of control over the fantasy, and the ultimate dispatching of the evil step mother, the wicked dragon, and all the monsters in the closet. 

The story had to be played out. 

The story needed time and this is, for me, the most frightening element of what they did to Heather Elvis.  

The death would have to be lengthened and the torture complete to quench the burning appetite, not just for revenge for infidelity, but for destruction of the dream, the fantasy, the "happily ever after" promised within the classics.  

Sidney knows all of this but it is his self preservation and yielding to his superior that keeps him silent. He did what he knew he had to:  obey and be silent.  He could do no more than yield his obedience to her, and, as she likely promised, he would be, like the supporting roles basking in the main character's glory, safe and sound in the end. 

Thus is so appears yet there is something else about the death of the victim that I believe, based upon the raging language still coming from Tammy. 

The victim's death is the only thing that stopped the torture. 

Tammy is not satiated with the blood of Heather.  Something interrupted the episode, the grand finale must prior to completion and this may have been that Heather had the temerity to die before Tammy said her peace and did what the script demanded. 

Two of the most vile criminal figures we have the misfortune of reading about, Statement Analysis told us all we needed to know early on, yet the rage continues only giving us possible insight, using the words within the rage, into what the innocent victim underwent and why Tammy, and those close to her, must continue to attack the victim's father:

They cannot sleep thinking that he and his may be healing. 

This also tells me that the star, the director and the producer, did not complete the story and remains less than satisfied with the pain she inflicted.  Life for a life, she may ponder, with her Disney fantasy life destroyed, not by Sidney, but by the victim, who escaped the fullness of wrath in her death, so she must now continue, raging against prosecutors and police, yes, but more so, against the father who dared to stand up for his daughter and point the finger precisely where it belonged. 

That Sidney became, for a few weeks or so, a "man", triggered deep resentment, formed in early childhood against men in general, and could not be abided.  Her post showed that she blamed the victim, yet must castrate the villainous little male child, publicly, so that he gets, at least, some form of punishment. 

No, the emasculated Sidney remained faithful to his fears, allowing the fantasy to continue, but the resentment of Terry Elvis is the resentment of a man. 

A man who struggled in trying to keep his teenaged daughter from growing up too quickly, knowing that there were lesser men out there who would prey upon the young, using the age and financial disparity to exploit.  Yet she wanted her own place and she wanted the adult world; the world that Terry knew was fraught with all sorts of dangers; the dangers fathers of beloved daughters, know of and do what they can to protect. 

This act of protection, itself, enrages Tammy who cannot stop, herself or working through others, from attacking Terry, because Terry is a man who sought to do that which no man had afforded Tammy; protection.  

I expect the attacks to continue with no one able to talk Tammy Moorer out of her attacks, including attorneys.  It is who she is and she has shown how far she will go to protect her Disney fantasy life.

It was a calculated gamble by law enforcement and one where critics can have their field day, but they tried, where others allow the case to go cold to pad their own win-loss records. 

I respect the attempt and separating the two was the only chance of gaining the revelation of Heather's remains.  

They did it for Heather. 

They did it for justice. 

They did it for Terry, which Tammy well knows, which fuels her incessant rage.  

The fantasy is as real as photoshopped pictures. 




85 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wish they had done the same thing for baby lisa and ayla.

Anonymous said...

There has been some speculation (granted, on Facebook by people who don't know the Moorers personally,) that Tammy may have been sexually molested by her father. Based on her personality, do you think that may be the case? Given her father's passing, I feel like the defense may try a similar trick Jose Baez used -- maybe blame Tammy's dad?

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:45,

Is he? Im not too sure about that. Plus, what about the rumors of him sexually abusing Heather combined with Heather writing on her tumblr "Like mother like daughter, literally"...a statement that has yet to be analyzed on here but a statement whose meaning is obvious. Yeah, he's a real protector.

Anonymous said...

Rumors of him sexually abusing his daughter? From where? Facebook? LOL. Heather thought she share commonalities with her mother and posted that to her Tumblr? Is that what's "obvious?" Big deal.

Tammy's continued postings -- posted to her own page, Sidney's, her son's and a variety of other sites are far more concerning and intimately revealing of the hateful, dangerous, jealous, vindictive woman she is. That woman is certifiable. That she has so openly disparaged the victim is outrageous. As her trails looms, she's becoming more unhinged. If there weren't a young and beautiful and much-loved young woman missing and presumed dead, it would almost be comical to watch. She is pathological.

Anonymous said...

One quick thing: I'm not sure whether that photo of Tammy is photo-shopped. She is definitely wearing a lot of make-up though. I've been thinking about how make-up is in a lot of ways a tool of deception... Any thoughts on this?

Anonymous said...

http://dericlostutter.com/alexandria-goddards-shoddy-coverage-heather-elvis-case-2/

Anonymous said...

Anon at 2:05 -- Tammy uses photoshop a lot. In some pictures, she and Sidney both have green eyes (to match a shirt color) and in others they are very blue. Using photoshop isn't a big deal to me -- it's incredibly common. That said, the use of photoshop and yes, the heavy makeup are, IMO, the work of a woman who is incredibly insecure about her looks. My secretary at work recently found out that her husband was cheating on her. She has elected to stay in the relationship, but has been overhauling her own appearance. I applaud her considerable weight loss and her new interest in dressing nicely, but her obsession with changing her appearance (and it is a DAILY obsession -- trust me) is due to her incredible insecurity. She seems to blame herself for her husband's indiscretions and believes he would not have strayed if she had taken a more vested interest in her own appearance. Tammy may be dealing with the same issues, but I personally doubt it. I believe that, with her, Peter's post is dead on and that it is all about control. She does not seem to be a person many people would much care for.

Anonymous said...

Terry i believe is a sociopath with OCD, judging from his sign shop business where he would use his penchant for exactness to cut the signs to exact specifications.
Terry's rages over lost house key: Why did Morgan write about how Heather would sneak in window and sleep with Morgan to avoid Terry's rages over her losing the house key. Does this sound like a "protector" who puts his daughter in fear over a lost key?
And does Morgan have Terry under her thumb? Recent interview, Morgan cuts off the mother to say how Heather would "act strong" when Terry "would get upset with her" but then would go cry. I think Morgan knows what happened to Heather and is keeping Terry uncomfortable enough by leeking info publically about his rages towards Heather to keep Terry under her thumb. Who can blame her really? She has witnessed his raging at Heather.

Anonymous said...

Anon, Terry is not a likeable figure but Sidney is not the poor dominated man-child Peter thinks he is. He probably sticks with Tammy due to convenience, getting fed, and enjoying the frequent trips to Disney World. Sidney is sleazy. Sidney himself states how his cheapskate ass exploited Heather by buying her a coffee abd expecting to be sexually serviced by a vulnerable young woman who was attempting to confide in him about her troubled life. Sidney sounds like a shark, a predator in his own right. Certainly not the beaten down puppy dog banging on the bars of Tammy's dungeon. Sidney was a bad man who ensnared Heather by offerimg her some fake compassion.

Anonymous said...

Sorry I meant to write "Tammy is not a likeable person" in post above

Anonymous said...

Tammy is a sleezy old woman, totally enraged with her husband and mistress. This is a old bag that smiled in her mugshot. Sidney should have protected the vulnerable girl knowing that his psycho wife would have a field day with her.

Anonymous said...

Yes you are correct. But noone was protecting Heather. She was surrounded by sharks.

Anonymous said...

You absolutely nailed this! She continues to rage against beautiful Heather. I do believe she's mentally ill. Gosh, I feel bad for her children.

Anonymous said...

"Terry i believe is a sociopath with OCD, judging from his sign shop business where he would use his penchant for exactness to cut the signs to exact specifications."

Ummm, wouldn't most people refer to this as doing exceptional work?? We've seen Sidney's "work" -- picking up hot young chicks because he was dominated by a wildabeast at home.

Perhaps Terry and Heather fought over a lost house key. Perhaps she lost it several times and it was a sore spot. Big deal. Show me a young, independent woman who hasn't had disagreements with her parents. That certainly doesn't mean they didn't love and care for one another. It was her dad she texted on her date, expressing pride in learning to drive a stick shift. If she was terrified of him, I hardly think she would have been interested in showing off to her dad. So stupid. No matter their disagreements as a family, the man didn't deserve to have his inexperienced and seemingly in love daughter murdered.

Lis said...

Anonymous said...

" One quick thing: I'm not sure whether that photo of Tammy is photo-shopped. She is definitely wearing a lot of make-up though. I've been thinking about how make-up is in a lot of ways a tool of deception... Any thoughts on this?"

I use photoshop a lot in web design. The photo is highly photoshopped.

Anonymous said...

Anon, I wont attempt to argue with your "what's the big deal?!" spin you put on everything as it's not a valid angle.
Terry shows many signs of OCD (which can be very dangerous when combined with psychopathy) as well as a penchant for "doing things right". This probably did create exceptional results in his sign shop but could create frightening results if Terry was crossed or angered. Please recall how Terry had posted the "correct" way to hide a dead body a few months before Heather disappeared.
Heather texting Terry the driving pic was her looking for love, approval and pride from her Dad, Terry. Did Terry write anything back like "Great job honey!" No, Heather's text was met by cold silence from Terry, this man who loves to write. Terry simply shut off his phone and continued his "ominously normal" evening while the rage built up inside him.

Anonymous said...

Well, you have a point, if he didn't comment with gushing praise over his daughter. At what point did he see the text? That night? The next morning?

Terry shows many signs of OCD... I've not heard of an official diagnosis of this, except from you, in anonymous comments on a message board. Do you have additional evidence? My neighbor has a diagnosis of OCD, which he openly shares. He also has 5 sons. Should I expect one of them to disappear? That would be terrible, as I adore all of them.

Your "mays" and "rumors" and "possiblies" are pure conjecture. The state had enough evidence to hold the Moorers for a full year and to keep the kidnapping charges intact. It's been explained enough why the state MAY have dropped the murder charges, so I won't go into that here.

Since we're hypothesizing, I will add.... I believe that Heather's body has already been found.

Anonymous said...

He saw the text right when she sent it.

The state didnt have enough evidence, they were bluffing to try to get a confession.

Oh, so do tell why you believe Heather's body has been found.

Trigger said...

Great post, Peter.
I think that you are right on about Tammy and Sidney.

Anonymous said...

Just a hunch. No more, no less.

The state had plenty of evidence to arrest them and lock them up for a year and to go to trial, which, if I am to believe rumors on Facebook as you do, should be in June.

Why did rage build in Terry over seeing a photo of his daughter learning to drive a stick shift?

lynda said...

I cannot even let my mind go to what that poor girl suffered under those psychopaths. It's to much. It certainly would be enough to drive a parent insane.

Nic said...

Her rage targeted the teenaged victim; not the adult male, further showing her dominance and view of Sidney. He is a child to be scolded, yes, but the victim was someone who would feel Tammy's rage.

I don't know if I agree entirely Peter. I think this is a codependent relationship. I agree Tammy is dominant - a bully disguised (projected) as a "sexy" dominatrix (as per the handcuffs she used to cuff Sidney to the bed as punishment). No doubt Sydney has his own baggage to be the submissive to someone like Tammy. jmo But I think Tammy's reluctance to hold Sydney accountable for his infidelity and blame Heather, instead, speaks to her own insecurity regarding her own body image, age and ability to "compete" with Heather.

I like the fantasy evil hag spin regards Tammy's obsession with Disney. Heather was the fairest of them all.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Lis re: the photo-shopping. I don't take a lot of pictures. I know people use a lot of filters these days, which is sort of like photoshop. Back in the days of film, the flash on cameras often made people look different (especially if they were wearing a lot of make-up) and that photo of Tammy has a similar quality.

I'd love to hear Peter's thoughts on make-up and deception.

Anonymous said...

Why did Terry's rage build from seeing the photo?
If you read Terry's writing where he describes himself receiving the text, he builds anticipation that something is going to happen and then...he receives the text. I believe his rage built bc he frequently raged at Heather, she had moved out, she was on a date with a guy, he may have been angered that her date was able to quickly teach her something he could not, he may have raged at her for failing to learn. Terry may have viewed her as "his" and felt usurped by this other man who she seemed happy to be around and who was teaching her skills he was not able to teach her (driving stick shift).
I dont know why you have a hunch her body has bedn found. I see no reason this would be kept a secret.

foodiefoodnerd said...

Quoting Peter:
"The isolation of Sidney from Tammy was not strong enough to break the submission."
~~~~
Peter, would you expect an abused male to break out of the years-long spell any quicker than female victims?
This affects his thinking and perspective on every aspect of his life and has for a long time; he has ahead of him years of the-first-one-without-Tammy reminders and emotional landmines even if he's completely past any love or affection toward her.

I'm not criticizing the police strategy, just asking about Sidney's emotional prognosis, and his ability to aid his defense, since you see mitigating factors that lessen his intent?

Like the battered women who actively help their men find, abuse and torture new victims and sometimes their own children: what about when the spell finally starts to loosen, Sidney's own mind gets a little stronger, gets back some sense of individuality, then it starts to sink in all of the horror he helped her inflict.

Lemon said...

" I expect the attacks to continue with no one able to talk Tammy Moorer out of her attacks, including attorneys. It is who she is and she has shown how far she will go to protect her Disney fantasy life. " - PH

Word.

foodiefoodnerd said...

Quoting yet another random Anonymous:
The state had enough evidence to hold the Moorers for a full year and to keep the kidnapping charges intact.

How long a suspect is held in custody before a trial isn't evidence for or against, but as to perspective it looks worse for the defense than the prosecution.

We have the right to a speedy trial, and I can't imagine rotting in a filthy, dangerous prison for a year or more (Casey Anthony three years) if I were innocent.

I would be yelling for my speedy trial, demanding, "Bring it on! You've got nothing because I didn't kill Victim!"

Anonymous said...

And yet, they waived their right to a speedy trial.

"Why did Terry's rage build from seeing the photo?
If you read Terry's writing where he describes himself receiving the text, he builds anticipation that something is going to happen and then...he receives the text. I believe his rage built bc he frequently raged at Heather, she had moved out, she was on a date with a guy, he may have been angered that her date was able to quickly teach her something he could not, he may have raged at her for failing to learn. Terry may have viewed her as "his" and felt usurped by this other man who she seemed happy to be around and who was teaching her skills he was not able to teach her (driving stick shift).
I dont know why you have a hunch her body has bedn found. I see no reason this would be kept a secret."

I see a lot of "he may have"... simply speculation... And yet, we know SM talked to HE that night, we know she called her roommate in despair. We know TM sent threatening texts. None of these things in and of themselves make someone guilty, of course, but all combined, it sure starts to build a case. What we don't know is what we don't know -- and my belief is that there is a great deal of what we don't know that will come to light when the Moorers go to trial. You can hate on Terry all you want. He may not have been a perfect parent. As a parent myself, I don't believe there is such a thing. But Terry didn't kill his daughter and attempts to paint him in that light are simply silly deflections. My heart goes out to a family that will never be whole again.

My hunch is simply a hunch. But legally, there is no reason for LE to report that her body has been found. This isn't CSI. They don't HAVE to tell the public. They would likely have to tell the family. I may be wrong, but that's my suspicion.

Anonymous said...

I cant even follow this thread anymore. It is so ridiculous to believe that Sidney is a "battered man". Really?! What is the evidence pointing to that? Because Tammy supposedly cuffed him while he consented and had more than enoughb physical strength to resist (oh I know, a mere technicality, battered women being beaten by men with 50 times their strength is insignificant--the strength imbalance is insignificant--big strong Sidney is a battered woman. And is the implication Sidney would not be responsible for assisting with kidnapping and killing Heather?
What is the evidence that he is a battered male? How is he controlled? Is Tammy physically stronger than him? Is he called names that degrade him? Did this taje away his freedom and self-esteem? Did this interfere with his sexual exploitation of Heather?
He doesnt sound battered...he sounds like a horrible person saying he bought Heather coffees in exchange for blow jobs. How do you fit that into the image of a cowed quivering man shaking with fear because he is so battered? It sounds like he feels he is a pimp which is the exact opposite of a dominated person. He certainly exploited Heather, and even after her death, still does by saying horrendous degrading stuff about her. You cant have it both ways: is Sidney a battered woman or an exploiter of teenage girls, and further, someone who brags about his degradation of Heather even after Heather's death. Someone who preyed on this troubled girl and who speaks of her as if she were a prostitute who he paid woth coffee (adding a more disturbing layer where he is essentially bragging about gaining sexual favors for the price of a coffee. If I had a daughter I wouldnt want that piece of shit anywhere near her and the last thing I would refer to him as is a "battered man". How anyone can conjure any pity for him is beyond my comprehension.

Anonymous said...

"He doesnt sound battered...he sounds like a horrible person saying he bought Heather coffees in exchange for blow jobs. How do you fit that into the image of a cowed quivering man shaking with fear because he is so battered? It sounds like he feels he is a pimp which is the exact opposite of a dominated person. He certainly exploited Heather, and even after her death, still does by saying horrendous degrading stuff about her. You cant have it both ways: is Sidney a battered woman or an exploiter of teenage girls, and further, someone who brags about his degradation of Heather even after Heather's death. Someone who preyed on this troubled girl and who speaks of her as if she were a prostitute who he paid woth coffee (adding a more disturbing layer where he is essentially bragging about gaining sexual favors for the price of a coffee. If I had a daughter I wouldnt want that piece of shit anywhere near her and the last thing I would refer to him as is a "battered man". How anyone can conjure any pity for him is beyond my comprehension."


100 percent what you just said... except that I don't believe for one second it's him posting about trading BJs for coffee... it's Tammy posting on his account. And it's reprehensible. I have n pity for him at all, but I don't think it's him at all posting that crap. It's the MRS -- on all accounts. Writing styles are all the same. She know what's ahead of her and she's trying to hide her terror. But it's coming.

Anonymous said...

Homestly, I wouldnt cry a tear for Sidney if he got handcuffed or got grounded from going to Disney if it wpuld stop him from exploiting teenage girls like Heather. Sidney is a CREEP.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
I wish they had done the same thing for baby lisa and ayla.
March 19, 2016 at 12:23 PM

I believe it would have worked in both cases. In both cases, the females involved would have yielded up the info.

I believe it would have gotten a confession from Shawn Adkins, too.

Anonymous said...

I think the prosecution is being very smart considering they don't have a body. Kidnapping carries a stiff prison sentence. They are trying to avoid a Casey Anthony verdict.

Anonymous said...

Tammy cannot stop herself from attempting to portray them as a loving couple. She's since removed them (likely after a stern phone call from her lawyer), but last night she posted several pics with the caption "Thank you Sidney." The photos were of a Maserati emblem (probably a car she saw in a parking lot), a pricey purse (still on a store shelf) and several photos of a luxury hotel. None of the family were in any of the photos, so no doubt they were faked pictures in her attempt to demonstrate that they are living a fun-filled, expensive, carefree life while waiting an impending trial for kidnapping the young woman he had an affair with, who is also presumed dead by their hands. She is a strange, diabolical woman. Those pics , in my mind, validated Peter's post that she is still desperately trying to live out a fantasy in which she is a beautiful, pampered princess rather than an unattractive woman married to a weak man who preferred the company and bed of a much younger, prettier girl.

Peter Hyatt said...

I think it is almost impossible for anyone in the prosecutor's office to not consider the Casey Anthony verdict, just as all involved in any race card crimes think still of OJ Simpson.

Injustice has many areas of impact.

Anonymous said...

Have they not hired some bully to write articles deflecting their guilt? Is this legal? I am curious since this person is being allowed not only to write articles, but attack random people and threaten them. Surely this Deric person can be charged. Can you comment on what you think about his involvement. I just recently became aware of his articles and threats so just looking for some insight.

Anonymous said...

This case could be prosecuted quite easily without a body as long as the circumstantial evidence they claim to have is really there regarding the timing of the phone calls, Moorer truck on video, a "disappeared" Heather. What may have happened is, as Sidney claims, evidence implicating someone else has surfaced.

Anonymous said...

The DA will not prosecute if the defense has evidence to win the case.
Legally, I guarantee you the kidnapping charges will be dropped. If they cant prove murder, they cant prove kidnapping (in this case where the 2 are intertwined). There is some kind of evidence that puts a big hole in the Moorer did it theory.

John mcgowan said...

Timeline of events in the Heather Elvis case

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24788974/timeline-of-events-in-the-heather-elvis-case

lynda said...

Peter's right...Caycee and OJ still are remembered thruout the nation, and why? Because they had 2 of the stupidest juries in history. Plenty of evidence to convict but the truly moronic actions of the juries is still mind boggling.

Anonymous said...

I have a question. Is that a picture of Sidney clean-shaven above in article? I mean no disrespect by saying this, but he looks gay. That would make sense as didn't he say that Tammy didn't realize Heather (the person he was communicating with on phone) was "a female" at first.

Nic said...

Has anyone noticed how Tammy and Sidney hold hands? If you look in pics of them leaving the courthouse, she's 'on top'. Like she's leading a little kid.

I don't know, maybe it's me. But when I take my husband's hand, I'm reaching towards his hand. Or I'm hooking my hand in the crook of his extended arm/elbow (hand tucked in his pocket).

I just find their appearance/unification reversed and staged -- unnatural.

Nic said...

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/myhorrynews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/13/d138ea78-5e48-11e5-b005-ff47915106e8/55fc7cad48574.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800

Nic said...

Better....

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/ex43uu/picture33184548/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/Moorer%209115

Anonymous said...

I actually did just google images of Sidney...I see what you are saying...she is leading him. I also noticed he has very above average fashion sense (see outfit he wore to court). His fashion sense is superior to hers. I wonder if they have a mixed-orientation marriage? With him being gay. Most men could not put that outfit (with the red shirt together nevermind trying to match the tie.

Anonymous said...

She also looks very downtrodden. He looks exuberant! Something is very strange.

Anonymous said...

Last night, I was also thinking it was strange the way Sidney remembered and included the detail of what type of coffee Heather would order (pumpkin something or other). No straight man wpuld remember or include that detail. Something is very "off" about their marriage, that's for sure!

elf said...

I kinda remember something about Sidney dying his hair right before they were arrested. Probably an attempt at either trying to look more youthful and hip or to disguise his looks because of the local interest in Heather' s plight. Maybe a combination of the two.

Anonymous said...

"Have they not hired some bully to write articles deflecting their guilt? Is this legal? I am curious since this person is being allowed not only to write articles, but attack random people and threaten them. Surely this Deric person can be charged. Can you comment on what you think about his involvement. I just recently became aware of his articles and threats so just looking for some insight."

Yeah. I seen that. Hope they're paying him a lot. Guess jail time isn't a big deal for him. I'm sure LE is on top of it. It's bad though. He seems to fit their type tho to me. IMO

Lemon said...

To Nic-

Sidney is in a Mickey Mouse tie. How apropos.
Sidney is not a sharp dresser.

Anonymous said...

THE MAN WORE A MICKEY MOUSE TIE TO HIS BOND HEARING -- A VERY SERIOUS OCCASION. That is not a sharp dresser, that is a little squirrelly obedient husband, who has few clothes that don't feature the Magic Kingdom. I wondered at the time if his lawyer couldn't have lent him a tie? He looks straight up Goofy (pun intended.)

Anonymous said...

Lemon,
Im talking about where he is in grey suit with red shirt and tie. Odd he would wear red shirt to court, however she dressed in black, the color of mourning. Also, she displays her electronic ankle monitorer. I REALLY wouldnt be surprised if Sidney is gay. Do most straight men love Disney World?!
Most straight men, there is always something a little off about the shirt/tie matching...with Sidney we see him able to coordinate perfectly red shirt and tie...contrast this with Peter's photo above...Peter's shirt and tie match and he looks nice but I wouldnt say they are "perfectly" coordinated.

Anonymous said...

If you go to google and browse through images of Sidney, you will notice he also color coordinated his sunglasses with the shirt. In one of the photos you will also notice him holding Tammy's hand (awkwardly)while critically eyeing her choice of silver bracelet that she is wearing on her arm. Is that something most men would do as they are going into court for their bond hearing?!?!

Bad Juju said...

How can you tell he's "critically eyeing" her bracelet when he's wearing sunglasses?

Anonymous said...

The expression on his face. He is certainly not admiring it.

Bad Juju said...

What I mean is how can you tell he's critically eyeing anything ... or looking at her bracelet ... neither or both? Maybe he's looking at the backside of a woman in front of him, haha. Maybe he's critically eyeing the camera man's shoes. How can you tell?

Hey Jude said...

Peter - I can't get my head around the article - it is not like your usual writing, there seems an almost surreal element to it. Will you give some help, please, on this, for instance - on how you formed this opinion:

The power of this bond is such that it further highlights the fury that Heather met and suffered under. It gives us even more insight into the cruelty and likely deliberate expansion of suffering and terror that Heather experienced under Tammy. If the Facebook post did not show enough rage, the silence of Sidney further shows how only death, itself, could mitigate the suffering that the victim underwent.

There is no body. Is there even forensic evidence to link Tammy and Sidney to Heather's murder - has it been established beyond doubt that Heather is dead? I know she is most likely dead, yet how can you be confident, not only in the Moorer's guilt, but also of the likelihood that Heather was made to suffer torture and died sooner than Tammy intended? - if you are correct on their guilt, I still don't understand where all the rest is coming from - especially that Tammy tortured Heather, and that Heather died before she was done. How was that horrendous image formed? Why do you find it was a case of torture and suffering, rather than, say, a split-second bullet to the head?

I have not followed the case closely, so I don't know what Tammy has said to enable you to say those things. I remember there was an early vicious diatribe against Heather, after she disappeared, but not what she said.

It's unlikely I'll be able to catch up in enough detail to know the case well. I only learned yesterday that Tammy owns handcuffs, and Sidney allowed himself to be handcuffed to their bed - that Tammy found that a reasonable, or even satisfactory, way to respond to his infidelity. It is so weird - how can anyone even begin thinking as either of them might?

Maybe I am being dense, and it should be obvious that a woman who restrains her husband with handcuffs is not likely to do anything less to his lover - if so, it is not obvious to me. I would think the handcuffing could not have been serious, and must have been consensual, part of some BDSM role playing they were into, as what man, seriously, would allow himself to be treated in that way, (much less to be handcuffed by an enraged woman), if it were not for his enjoyment? It could have been Tammy doing what Sidney liked, in order to keep him at home, and away from Heather. If Sidney is a submissive, he may not be, or see himself as a victim, even if others would, if that is what really he likes. I don't know what either of them have said about it, having only read that it happened. He could be a victim of domestic abuse, who has been forced into a submissive role, but that would not be my first thought about why Tammy, or they, own handcuffs.

If I can find and read all you have previously analysed from Tammy, would it help me to see how you arrived at the point of being so confident in saying the things you say in this blog post? How do you extrapolate so much from what source?

Hey Jude said...

I was thinking about Tammy's Disney obsession. Arrested development, maybe, to obsess over and uncritically embrace everything Disney, rather than sometimes have to endure it, as an adult. What type of Disney princess handcuffs her prince, anyway? Maybe Tammy is not seeing herself as a princess these days, unless Disney has added a Princess Dominatrix to the collection.

I noticed that Sidney is an anagram of Disney. I wonder if that is his real name, or did she Disney-fy him, too?

Hey Jude said...

I visited Auschwitz and critically eyed the garish 'Disneyland' tee-shirt the guy in front of me found fit to wear - it might have been 'Disney World', I'm not sure now, only that it was Disney, and offensive.

lynda said...

Hey Jude said

"I noticed that Sidney is an anagram of Disney. I wonder if that is his real name, or did she Disney-fy him, too?"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Great catch! Plus, it made me spit some of my tea out of my nose Bahaha

Anonymous said...

PS. Good catch with the Disney-Sidney connection

Hey Jude said...

Anon - thanks, that's an interesting response. I haven't thought of Peter as being susceptible to projection in the same way some of us are, or might be, as normally he concentrates on analysis, and keeps such a tight self-discipline in that over hundreds or thousands of words - this blog post is so different to his usual ones, as he's not making clear where what he is saying is coming from, so I find that confusing.

Lynda - I'm always pleased to have caused a tea incident., or for someone to cause me to have one. :)

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Anon - how can you equate Heather's guilt to that of whoever murdered her? If it was Tammy, Heather was still just a twenty year old girl who was no doubt Iove struck, while Sidney was a long married man with a family, who should not have gone after her, or encouraged her, but kept his family responsibilities in mind - just say no. The greater responsibility was Sidney's. Killing a rival would surely be a vey temporary 'solution' - only workable until the next distraction from the marriage came along, and then only if murder seemed liveable with - I can't see it would fit too well with the Disney fantasy lifestyle - the case is so utterly bizarre. I don't know what to think.

Hey Jude said...

H, sorry, Anon - I misread you - you mean Heather was as guilty as Sidney, not equally responsible for her own murder, I think. I'd still disagree, as Heather was so young, I'd give benefit of the doubt on how aware she might have been of her wrecking potential,mshe'd know it was wrong, but not necessarily comprehend the potential impact upon the marriage, kids, and especially Tammy. Young people's brains/thinking processes aren't fullydveloped till mid-twenties. Sidney held most responsibility, IMO.

rob said...

TE acts like a loving father who wants justice for his daughter.
TM acts like she's living in the good-ole-days. Back when she was a young, hot, stripper. Chasing rock bands, bigger in her eyes than anyone elses'. Sidney was the one she got to bite, then lives her big talking life on-line, with photo shopped photos, living the Disney dream.
The M's are pathetic, God help their children.
My prediction is, if this goes to court for the kidnapping, a SC jury will find them guilty in a matter of a few hours. Then it will up to the judge, I hope there is a minimum sentence that will have to be given.
I also predict the Emanual 9 trial will end in a guilty verdict, but not the death penalty cause the guy is so young. My hope is they will give the deal for LWOP for a guilty plea. (In SC, the solicitor does let the victims families have a say in whether or not to seek the DP.)
Those are my thoughts and predictions and I personally cant wait for these 2 trials to take place.

rob said...

Hey Jude said

"I noticed that Sidney is an anagram of Disney. I wonder if that is his real name, or did she Disney-fy him, too?"


That is odd. Whoever heard of anyone named Sidney "St. Claire" Moorer is SC anyway. (Unless St. Claire is his mothers maiden name.)

Peter Hyatt said...

Did Sidney wear a disney tie, or was this humor?

Also, as a reminder to commentators: the blaming of the victim or the victim's father posts go into the Spam folder until the IP goes there permanently.

If you answer them by copy/paste method, your post ends up in the same.

Statement Analysis of the topic showed guilty knowledge of the death of Heather Elvis.

Analytical Profiling, that is, a profile from Statement Analysis is far more subjective, and is lots of guess work; yet educated guess work based upon language. It can be so distinct that it can even identify an actual author.

Anonymous said...

No, Sidney wore a Disney tie to their first bond hearing.

Peter Hyatt said...

Rob,

Tammy and Sidney would be a research criminal psychologist's dream.

A: That Sidney wore a Disney tie to their first bond hearing is something I would have questioned as mild humor.

It only affirms my first sentence to Rob!

Peter

Anonymous said...

Has anyone watched the post dropping of murder charges interview with Elvis family? What do you make of what the sister says?

Anonymous said...

Also when I was clicking through pictures of Sidney as someone suggested, a picture of the sister showing the tatoo she got in honor of Heather from a newspaper article cane up. . It's pretty touching and quite interesting and the adjoining text shows what a caring young woman Heather was.

Nic said...

I'm betting every time Tammy looks at Sidney she is reminded of Heather, so what was the point of "allegedly" kidnapping Heather. Tammy can't get in Sidney's head and erase whatever intimate memories he has of Heather, or when they get played out. So Tammy loses that way. I'm betting Tammy says Heather's name every time when they're together as she takes her rage out on Sidney, in the name of "pleasure". So ultimately, Heather lives.

Nic said...

Anon @ 3:49, Do you mean...

"There's going to be a conclusion eventually and that's what we are holding out hope for," she said. "We can stop holding our breath and we can face people in the community and say, 'You know, it's over and it's OK. Because it's not just us that's hurting."

I'm thinking they know Heather is gone and a speedy trial isn't going to change that. The conclusion they're seeking is justice and they are willing to wait for it.

Heather's mom wants her back so they can provide a proper burial for Heather/know where she respectfully is, and visit her when they want to.

God speed to the Elvis family.

Katprint said...

According to http://wpde.com/news/local/murder-charges-dismissed-against-tammy-and-sidney-moorer-in-heather-elvis-case, Tammy Moorer's attorney gave a statement then "He added, 'since the gag order is still in effect because of the kidnapping charge and the medicaid fraud charged, I think I'm limited on what I can say.' "

So, the kidnapping and the medicaid fraud charges are going forward even though the murder charge has been dropped. Both of these charges 1) are supported by very strong evidence against the Moorers and 2) have statutes of limitation requiring prosecution within a certain time period. By contrast, there is less evidence of murder -- in particular, that they killed Heather as opposed to, say, selling her to a brothel in Mexico -- and there is no statute of limitations on murder. My educated guess is the prosecutors decided to put the Moorers in prison for the time being based on the crimes they can definitely prove while they continue to look for more evidence to support the murder charges. I expect they are keeping the Moorers under covert and/or electronic surveillance including GPS trackers on their vehicles in hopes that the Moorers get nervous about wherever they put Heather's body and go there to check to make sure it is safe from discovery.

Anonymous said...

Nic, It would be interesting to have a full transcript of the sister's words. It's unusual to see one of the family members speaking as she does, particularly the statement about Heather being a caring person who would act "tough" when Terry would get upset with her abd then go cry. I find that she is speaking as if Terry is not standing right there. Do you think he liked having that info shared with the world? Im intrigued as to why she is acting the way she is.

John mcgowan said...

The jury is still out with me. I can't conclude, yes or no. Are they directly / indirectly involved, or not? There is guilt in both their language. That doesn't necessary mean, involvement. I think, i don't know what others think. This, for me, is, the exception that broke the rule. In S/A terms, demeaning of someone, so overtly. Is this the exception?

What i will say, is. In the UK. There is no way that someone would be charged with "kidnapping" without a shred of evidence, that we know of.

I trust S/A. Something is off. I can't put my finger on it!

Anonymous said...

John,

I think Tammy and Sidney were up to no good that night, but I don't think they did it.

CptKD said...

To the few 'believing' - That it IS in fact, Sydney 'creating' & composing under this new Facebook Profile of 'His'¡
Think again!!
It is, once again - Tammy who is the 'Mastermind' behind & 'Within' that whole 'Creature'!

If one notes the dates/times, on many of the posts & comments made by 'Sydney' - They ARE at times where he 'would' technically be working, in order to provide for his family . . .

Given every opportunity & consideration to relocate to Florida to find employment - Similarly with the choice to 'Homeschool' the kids - I'm quite confident in deducing, that 'mid-morning' comments & early afternoon posts, are left and made, compliment of the 'Mrs'!!!
SHE, most certainly isn't out 'making a living' to feed them all!

In my opinion anyway . . .

That all said - This Case remains a wretched heartbreak¡!
May Heather be brought Home
&
Justice Prevail!

Thanks for the Great Post, Peter!

rob said...

Katprint and CptKD, I agree with everything you both said.
Getting them back in jail for anything sounds good to me.
And no, there is no way Tammy is actually working a job.

CptKD said...

Same as, there being no way - That it'd be Sydney authoring such ASSAULTIVE & VITRIOLIC 'Long-Winded' Compositions, attacking everyone & everything. Having the AUDACITY to literally contact Heather's best Friend, BEGGING and PLEADING for her to to REVEAL various (What come off as being) Flat-out untruths & 'Fabrications' she & Sydney have suddenly 'created' . . .

I was disgusted, not to mention 'shocked' when I saw the comment to Brianna from Tammy, from Tammy's actual FB profile!

In my experience - In my years of training, studying, and knowledge of the Canadian Criminal Code - Our Justice System!

ONE SHOULD NEVER BE CONTACTING, OR COMMUNICATING WITH A POTENTIAL WITNESS IN ONE'S TRIAL!
ESPECIALLY A WITNESS WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING 'A G A I N S T' YOU!

The woman has absolutely NO Boundaries¡!

Clare said...

I have followed this case from get go... I think the only reason Sidney didn't turn on her is because she has something over him and their kids.. Tammy is a loose cannon. But not the brightest bulb. Something will be found eventually to convict them. I think it was smart for them to drop mirder charges just in case.. I think the best thing will be for them to go to jail for kidnapping/fraud..

I've read most of Tammy's posts- past to present. If you were truly not involved in a crime you would just want it all to go away- but the constant degrading of heather and her family is just proof she's trying to convince people she didn't do it- while continuing to hatefully abuse heather even after her death. I do believe she is dead. I think Tammy had a lot of time on her hands to make sure she did it somewhere that it would be impossible for someone to find evidence. It happened somewhere deep in the woods I would guess.

I do hope that the Elvis family gets her remains back so they can heal.

Anonymous said...

http://wpde.com/news/local/trial-date-set-for-man-charged-with-kidnapping-of-heather-elvis


A trial date has been set for Sidney Moorer on the kidnapping charge.

Anonymous said...

So, Tammy had punched Heather in the weeks prior to Heather's disappearance?

And rumors that Heather was pregnant?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3_Xa_8g8-4Q/UtsYA9VYSII/AAAAAAAAJsE/m4QYzi_3JV8/s1600/preggomyeggo.JPG

Nic said...

I remember reading the "preggo my eggo" post.

Who knows whether it was a declaration of fact, or desire.

___________

Moorer is a tradesman, I'm supposing his father-in-law was too? I wonder if cement was ever kept around.

jmo

Aries said...

Tammy had control over her husbands phone,by putting a pass code on it, etc However when he was initially questioned after she disappeared HIS PHONE WAS IN HIS POSSESSION....very obvious that both of them are guilty as this is a huge red flag in my opinion!

Aries said...

Tammy had control over her husbands phone, by putting a pass code on it, etc However when he was initially questioned after she disappeared HIS PHONE WAS IN HIS POSSESSION....very obvious that both of them are guilty as this is a huge red flag in my opinion!