Friday, May 6, 2016

Amanda Blackburn Murder Ideology Part Two


Ideology is the basis for culture.  You may not ascribe to the ideology, but you have been greatly influenced by its outworking; that is, by culture. 

Your language reflects this. 

You have a culture in your nation.  You also have a culture in your home, at your place of work, along with any religious or social societies of which you belong.  

There are some cases in which the ideology, itself, is a direct and powerful influence upon the language, more so than just the culture.  

In understanding language, the culture is important.  In understanding the culture, the ideology should be, in the very least, something the analyst is familiar with.  

In the Amanda Blackburn murder, I am preparing analysis on the ideology and the culture and it is important but I have a very different reason for doing so than most might consider. 

I have reported many times regarding Islamic crime, but I rarely post articles (and teachings) about the contextual work within Statement Analysis.  Much of it is too complex for casual reading, and is part of a much larger teaching, point by point, element by element, in which the student is presented with a statement that has obvious cultural reference points where he or she must counter our own cultural bias and projection, in order to the get to the truth.  In the criminal activity in Europe, it is important to understand the ideology first, the culture next, and how this is thus reacted to by the host nation.  Generally, projection is first noted, but when this fails, deception enters to protect the narrative.  

It is complex, which means that it takes much to cover; far more than in a blog, but also it becomes something often misunderstood, which I have learned from some 'rebuttal' posts over the years. 

"Well, if you are saying this is cultural, than that means that in this other case..."

These "other cases" that are cited are often very simple cases where guilt is indicated, but the emotions run high.  It is as if to search for a reason why the analysis can't be right.  

Statement Analysis is very complex, and its simplest forms are posted here on the blog. They serve their purposes, including inspiring some to dedicate themselves to obtaining knowledge.   Those who do not grow beyond the blog cannot put their name on analysis for very long:  the first error will be the last and credibility is lost and the science indicted.  This was the result of the UK testing I have cited in the past.  Yet speak to one who has studied at length and listen to the confidence he or she shows in solving any case where human communication is not hindered, and then move on to the actual track record.  

It is impressive.  

I am privileged to work with professionals from all walks of life, who share a desire for truth.  Narrative trumps truth for many today, but not among the professional analysts.  They don't "have a dog in the fight" but if they feel they have a 'puppy', they readily talk about it, seeking to counter its influence.  

All of us 'root' for one thing or another, including a belief that this sports hero, or that politician will 'save the day.'  

It is also unpleasant when one is seen as deceptive. 

I recall an email I received years ago from a well educated, polite and respectful gentleman who happened to be a baseball fan who's love of the game is intense. 

He read my analysis of Ryan Braun's denial of PEDs.

He thought that Ryan Braun was "very persuasive" and used so many terms to "really prove" how he did not put a needle of hormones in his rear end. 

Mr. Braun's denial has become part of the "101 teaching" that is useful in introducing principle, and leading analysts to conclusions. 

His denial was goofy.  

It was, technically, "unreliable", which does not mean "deception indicated" for us.  

In his denial was embedded information, including that his PEDs were administered via needle, not some 'random infestation of Mexican or Chinese beef'; the latest excuse in professional sports.  

The statement, in its entirety, revealed one who:

a.  Used PEDs
b.  Had a tremendous need to persuade
c.  Cared about his reputation
d.  Had used, likely, for quite some time
e.  Was willing to not stop talking until the audience gave in;

but there was something else his statement and subsequent statements showed.  

It showed a willingness to bring harm to others, even if only castigating a Fedex employee.  

It may seem to be minor ("only") but the man who made $46,800 salary to support his family has lost far more than Braun's weekly paycheck of $46,800 during his suspension.  Consider the devastation for one to lose his job in this case, or in the attacks of Lance Armstrong where he sought to (and succeeded in some degrees) to destroy men and their entire businesses.  He sought to destroy one woman by impugning her reputation as a woman.  It was cruel, petty and it also revealed his own depths of just how low he would go, instinctively, to protect himself.  He called the Irish masseur a "whore" to the public, which included everyone in her field of employment (athletics) and it is unknown how this impacted 

This is a personality trait of a habitual liar; not a panic or embarrassed liar.  

The habitual liar is a life long deceiver, who learned early in childhood years, that he, himself, is more important than anyone else in the world.  He has honed his craft his entire life and it is now instinctive for him.  In any day by day situation, it is not his impulse to, for example, put others first before him.  This is the element of 'sacrifice' inherent in all societies:  one sacrifices, or one is sacrificed due to the inequality and complexity of life.  

The habitual or "pathological liar" will, whenever called upon, harm others to protect self.  At times, this desire to harm one who dares question, or who actually contradicts (such as a witness) is realized with action.  Sometimes the action is civil, other times it is in the form of a threat, intended to intimidate, frighten, or even coerce its target. Sometimes the action is violent.  But there is another element that is important in advanced analysis and profiling, to consider:  

Sometimes, this action of harm was not even necessary in the overall case, elevating the emotional demand for some form of 'satisfaction' over the insult.  

In interviewing pathological liars, it seems that no payment is enough.  They do not feel 'full' or 'complete' and the animosity may go underground (passive aggressive) and the need to insult remains.  This is sometimes evident in the words of praise:  a touch of vinegar masqueraded by a strong intellect. 

It was for revenge, and the emotional satisfaction the liar receives in seeing what he calls "justice."  It is not justice.  

Liars will emotionally bristle, for years, over those who dared disagree with them.  They harbor, nurture, and protect this bitterness, even as it may be taking years off their own lifespan, as something of great value. 

You lie. 

I lie.

We feel it, within, and have a need to "make things right." Sometimes this desire to make things right even takes years where we have put it out of our mind, but something arises and we feel a need to straighten that which our tongue made crooked.  This is a reflection from childhood. 

It is precisely what I use to protect companies against illicit claims.  

We cannot project this childhood lesson upon others lest we err in our final analysis and leave ourselves, the company, or the public at large, at serious risk. 

The liar lies, and he, too,  also has a need to "make things right" but not as you and I do.  He needs to 'even the score' or 'balance the books.'

Why?

Because the insult of not being believed is more than just an insult; it is an insult that brings him right back to childhood, and it strikes at the core of his very being. 

You have not disagreed with what he said:  you have exhaustively condemned who he is, as a human being. 

You and I do not 'hear' what he hears and with this in mind, consider the ancient proverb that talks of those who do not sleep unless they have brought trouble to someone. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, the language of the victim's husband has not only been cited for deception, but noted for its bizarre nature.  Simply put, it is not expected for a grieving husband to use such distancing language from his wife that it appears "extreme", just as it is most unexpected for someone, in any field, to talk about 'business success' above and beyond linguistic concern for the two victims of this brutal murder.  

Religious Context 

Some have dismissed this as cultural (or ideological) while others think it is psychological disturbance, such as extreme narcissism joined to religious language. 

It is not. These do not understand the dynamics of a clash between ideology and personal gain.  

It will take some time to reach this point, and some effort on the part of readers to wade through detail.  I recognize that as a "blog", the expectation is short and to the point.  In this case, I think the high level of interest and emotions (note the length of sentences within the comments) justifies the content.  

This is what I hope to get readers to consider:

When one knows the truth of an ideology but deliberately treats it with deception ("deception" must include intent; as error or inaccuracy doesn't necessitate deception) for a discernible purpose, this activity reveals a very specific personality trait.  

When it is coupled with a strong intellect, it is even more pronounced. 

Without grasping this clash,  or contradiction, one will not understand the 'why' of the language in this murder case.  The theme of the upcoming article is this very thing:  what type of personality does it take to know the truth, and deliberately alter, edit, destroy, imbalance, or even negate, for a singular purpose, publicly, employing all of his skills and energy to do so?

Although this will be addressed in detail, it is not about legitimate differences and arguments among those who genuinely seek the truth.  

It is a pragmatic lie that is distinctly deceptive and it is for a singular purpose, and this purpose is employed publicly.  

For this classification, these elements must be present:

1.  Direct Knowledge
2.  Purposeful goal (pragmatism with resolve)  
3.  Very Strong Intellect 
4.   Courage, or element of fearlessness; not easily discouraged
5.   Unyielding position
6.  Public stance (which allows for public challenge).  This is important because any pragmatic view can be adopted without being challenged.  Consider what politicians have done the last few years when caught, hypocritically going directly against their words previously embraced.  Instead of being in the spotlight and being condemned as a hypocrite, they are praised.  Why?

"My position evolved."

This leaves one with no reference point, ever, for anyone, on any issue.  

With the element of religious ideology, it takes a very specific personality type to stand before public scrutiny and use deception.  

As we look at the ideology first, the deception second, and the results of the deception, we see a personality type emerge for us.  We take this with us as we analyze the words within the murder case to learn:

Do the words affirm this type?
Do the words deny this type?
Are the words indifferent?

With this answer, we then move on to the final analysis and conclusion. 

It gives a large portrait, yes, but more importantly, it allows the truth seeker to enter the shoes of the subject and understand his verbalized perception of reality in a much deeper and accurate manner.  

That which appears 'mysterious' loses some of the 'unknown' when the ideology conflict is recognized.  

It rectifies much for the listener.  

It is worth the study.  




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Bingo3 said...

I would lean toward Davey most likely gave Weston Benadryl if in fact this was an orchestrated event. The dog must have been in a crate, in the garage, locked in a room or in the backyard. No matter where he was in that tiny yard or house, I have a very hard time believing that he would not have been barking very loudly. Dogs can hear so much more intensely than we can and are very protective. DB may have given him something also. That dog could have been key if the police would have been alerted sooner to a crime scene. I lived in a neighborhood in a cul de sac very similar to this one and we heard everything in the houses next door. Babies crying, dogs barking, etc. The fact neither of these were heard, makes me very suspicious something was given to them. Also, Davey sitting in the driveway in front of the tiny house and not sensing anything or any baby or dog sounds is a huge red flag to me and always has been.

Leslie said...

Ima, that was a significant find about DB's high school coach. Good for you! Although I have no idea what "the lie" was about, I do tend to think that his family's move that coincided with his senior year of high school was related. And, his lie could certainly be linked to the coach's transfer to another school. Although I suspect he's either a sociopath with narcissistic traits, or both a sociopath / psychopath and a narcissist, I also see a little boy side to him, underneath the surface, at times. Amanda came across as more grounded and secure, not only in her faith, but, who she was (if they can be separated). As some have previously mentioned, I think those traits contributed to DB's eventual loathing of her.

Ima, I've been thinking about you and your parents. I hope you can get restorative rest.

And, Bingo I agree about that it was likely that Weston had been given Benadryl, if DB indeed planned Amanda's murder, and that Mel was crated in the garage. And, yes, it would still be very unusual for Mel to not have been ferociously barking, and gunshots would probably awake even a drugged baby, imo.

Does anyone remember who, in the early days/weeks after Amanda's murder, commented in one of the threads that they had saved DB's earlier blogs, just in case?

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Anonymous said...

Where is bobcat?

Anonymous said...

When speaking to PN about forgiveness, note that DB makes a point of stating " I had no idea who these guys were"... Seems to feel the need to reiterate a lack of connection between himself and the guys who allegedly killed Amanda. Hmm

Hey Jude said...

From Davey's Feb 11, 2007 Blog - the first time Davey 'heard' God speak to him

'...Back to tonight: One of my buddies on the baseball received Christ tonight!! It was awesome!! We've been praying for him and talking to him about Jesus for a while and he's been showing up at Bible study almost every week, but he's been holding off on a decision. Finally, tonight he accepted Christ into his heart to be the Lord of his life. As I sat and ate dinner with him afterwards I explained to him how this is just the beginning and not the end of the journey and how exciting the rest of his life is going to be as long as he makes Jesus his first priority.

I want to tell you a little about why this story is so cool, because I feel that God spoke more to me in this experience than he did to Bud (that's this guys name) or anyone else. A few weeks ago I mentioned something to my Media Ethics teacher that I really wish that God's hand would just write on the wall his will (in regards to what I'm supposed to do in the future). I was really frustrated because it seems that God spoke in all these awesome ways in the Bible and yet we don't get to have encounters like that with God anymore. Elijah saw him in fire from heaven on Mt. Carmel, Moses saw him in a burning bush, and Daniel saw his hand write on the wall. So I began praying that God would write it on the wall what I was supposed to do with all these decisions I'm presently making.

We went to Newspring last Sunday (great church; Perry Noble, the pastor, has a blog site and there's a link to it on my sidebar). Perry did a sermon about telling your friends about Jesus and bringing them to church (in religionese that's called evangelism). At the end of the sermon he had us go write a name or two on the wall of the sanctuary of a person that we would commit to pray for that week and to whom we would extend an invitation to church the next week. So I felt that I needed to write Bud's name on the wall.

As I approached the wall with the pen in my hand I had one of those de ja vu moments. It was like I had been there, or was expecting to be there . . . right there in Newspring sanctuary, facing the wall, I felt God speak to me. His words were few but powerful, "You wanted to see Writing on the Wall, Davey. There you go." Before me were hundreds of people's names who did not know Jesus, and at that moment I knew what God was saying to me through the writing on the wall. "Davey, I'll take care of everything. You just be concerned about bringing people to me." I can still feel those words resounding in my soul right now as I type. It stirred me to the core and for the first time I "heard" God speak to me as clearly as writing on the wall... '

Hey Jude said...

Ima Grandma - Sorry to hear of your troubles - it sounds like a nightmare. I hope your parents make good recoveries.

This:
'Could it be that he used his current methodology mechanism to falsely inspire (motivate) his congregants upon Amanda first? Practice makes perfect you know.'

I have wondered about him somehow motivating them against Amanda since that early interview with Ashley and Derek Barrett, and in view of the comments left on Davey's and Resonate's site and social media pages. So little expression of shock, surprise, outrage - such ready acceptance. As though they were almost waiting for 'something drastic' to happen - weird much. Whatever it is, it's more than difficult to account their muted reaction to the murder of a young woman, to faith. The Barretts can hardly contain their smiles while 'close friend' Amanda was brain dead, and on a ventilator. Now they are living with Davey and helping raise Weston. The obscenity of the hashtags when the decent thing would have been to suspend using them for at least a year or two. I don't know if that's the type of inspiration/motivation you are thinking of - as in against Amanda, but that's how it seems to me. If Amanda could see how little appropriate reaction there was to her death from her church family, she might have had an 'Et tu, Brute?' moment.

It's also weird how some, including some in Amanda's family, like to say that Amanda is cheerleading for Davey and Resonate from heaven - poor girl that they still have no higher hopes for her, and that they also have such a degraded idea of what Amanda's heaven might be like.

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Hey Jude said...

Davey's 'words' from God. It's an easy and ongoing means of manipulation in Davey's circle - who's going to say 'great imagination going on there, Davey' or more kindly, 'Wishful thinking, but...' - someone should have stopped him, right there, the day he made that blog post. That they did not now has the absurdity of God taking a shower with Davey in order to affirm the sacrifice/murder of his wife as also being God's plan, for Davey. It has only ever been all about Davey, but because "receiving a 'word' from the Lord" is such a mutually convenient 'thing' to so many of them, it is let pass.

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mom2many said...

I posted an old blog titled "Home Sweet Home" yesterday. I keep thinking of his description of a home as secretive. "The problem is the stigma that the Church has tagged to a home . . . for so long our culture has deemed a home a place that is quiet, safe, secretive, private"

Also his word choice of 'stigma' is unexpectedly negative.

What, in his experience, caused him to attribute a secretive home with Church culture?

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Fm25 said...

I have no idea. I just couldn't figure out why ii couldn't get her account to pull up. I am able to find her now thought so I have chalked it up to user error on my part.

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Fm25 said...

I believe the police can still get them with a subpoena. Her family, if they wished to see any, could not. It's off and unexpected for someone to erase all text history including those with his recently murdered wife. the way he announced it in his sermon and word choice was also odd as noted in prior posts.

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Maggie said...

I was just looking over the court records for Gordon and Taylor and I have some new hope because Gordon's attorneys appear to be requesting a lot of document production (phone records, etc.) Taylor's nothing. So maybe Gordon's attorneys will do the work the police don't seem to be doing?

Also of interest - Alonzo and Donae are getting evicted.

Hey Jude said...

Davey might be a bit narked the next time he checks in here and encounters the beauty and the horror of waybackmachine in the hands of Ima.Grandma.

Thoughts for the Da(ve)y:

'Remember not the sins of my youth...'
'Blessed are the merciful...'
#NothingIsWasted
#TheBestIsYetToCome


rosy said...

ima.grandma

Thanks for all your posts today! What a haul. And after all that you've been through.

Way Back Machine is the best. Meanwhile 2 of his blogs at least are still online, from 2006 and 2007.

One question, where did you find info on transfer of the coach at same time as DB"s high school move? That's interesting, isn't it?

Brad Cooper, as you may know, is now Executive Pastor of Ministries at NS:

"Brad oversees the Fuse, KidSpring, Next Steps, and Guest Services ministries found on every NewSpring campus and NewSpring College. Brad has a passion for people of all ages and for seeing their lives changed by Jesus Christ. Brad is the primary communicator for Fuse and has a unique ability of connecting with the students of NewSpring Church ...." https://newspring.cc/pastors

I believe he stepped in as one of the guest pastors for DB.

HISG said...

You guys should reexamine the language in his "finding Amanda facedown on the floor" ramblings.
As to how he "quieted"Weston: Benadryl given to Weston the night before would be NO GUARANTEE he wouldnt wake up in the morning. I have taken benadryl to get to sleep many times, and it actually wears off fairly quickly. More importantly, would Davey be willing to take that risk that Weston would be screaming bloody murder IF he did wake up? I doubt it.
Think of what he says: He doesnt try to revive Amanda at any point, his first instinct is to call 911 midaction "running upthe stairs" to check on Weston. Yes, probably bc he had to take the duct tape off his mouth pronto before ambulance/police show up. Next he grabs "towels" to "stop the bleeding. Really? What if he wet a section of one of the towels to wipe the sticky residue off of Weston's face once he took off the duct tape?
Davey does not tell us if Weston was sleeping, awake, crying etc when he checked on him. Wouldnt most people? He is hiding something beyond "Benadryl". If he had given Weston Benadryl, why wouldnt he say "Weston was sleeping. He apoeared OK." Look at what he is NOT telling us about Weston when he appeared "OK". He is not even telling us if he was asleep or awake. Why? Think about it.

rosy said...

Maggie, thanks for info. Do you have a link for the court docs? I've lost track of one I had.


I had a thought last night. Are we any nearer to a theory of how DB might conceivably have orchestrated the crime? We can speculate and analyze much further, perhaps endlessly, on DB's character, behavior, & motivation as revealed in his past & current use of social media and sermons. Is this bringing us any nearer to a theory or hypothesis of possible orchestration? Is every possible such theory a stretch?

Larry Jo Taylor Jr. committed 2 separate violent crimes prior to the events of Nov 10 - a rape on November 3 and a shooting murder on Nov 4. He was not charged with these earlier crimes until late December.

The rape in particular was discussed on TV and social media. But LT's hand in those crimes was not public knowledge, never mooted in press or media, and as far as I know unknown to LE.

How did LE crack those cases? How many people around LT and Jalen Watson (his co-burglar on the night of the rape, Nov 3) heard about either of those crimes at the time and refused to snitch? Did LT's girl-friend know? Did Alonzo and Donae know? Was anyone around LT in touch with DB or Amanda?

Was there any conceivable basis for DB to hear of either of those crimes, and leverage hearsay knowledge with a request for LT (and crew?) to do a job in his house? In exchange, no one would snitch on anyone.

DB's airsoft "shoot your worries - boom!" sermon fell on November 8, between LT's first 2 crimes and the attack on Amanda Nov 10. Was this sermon announced in any detail before LT's first 2 crimes of violence? I.e. did DB make prior mention of shooting worries with a gun? I don't see that he did.

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Hey Jude said...

HISG - From where are you getting that Davey ran upstairs to check on Weston? Has he ever said that, or are you basing it on someone's imagined scenario? Also, did you make up the duct tape on Weston to keep him quiet? Babies have very delicate skin - if ever there was duct tape on Weston, or the dog, it surely would have been evident to those police officers who found them.

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There was a rehearsal for that sermon earlier in the week, Rosy, a video was posted on Instagram and later removed. Davey made notes for 'Worship as a Weapon - Shoot your Worries' well in advance - he posted photo of his notes on Twitter or Instagram - it was discussed in much earlier threads. He was excited about it.

Fm25 said...

That statement about running up the stairs while calling 911 was not made by davey. A blogger here posted it as an example of a more reasonable reaction from davey.

Fm25 said...

The statement about running upstairs was not from davey. It was an example made by a blogger here of what they thought was a more appropriate reaction.

rosy said...

Hypothesis ctd: Correction, LE linked LT and Watson to the rape by November 23 (not December).

LT Jr was already in the system, "charged June 30 2015 with public indecency and public nudity."

LT's girl-friend's grandfather is religious, possibly a minister. Before he retired he worked for a prison system. He kept an eye on her FB posts and told her he prayed for her.

LT may have a similar connection with a parental or foster-parental figure in LE.

LT and/or girl-friend may have been steered at some point toward (religious/pastoral?) counseling. That's a guess.

Fm25 said...

The pre trial is 05/17z here sa link to case info https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6Ik9XWTNNRE15TmpFd01UVXdPakV3TXpVMk16SXlaREE9In19

Hey Jude said...

I thought that was so, Fm25.

HISG, if Davey didn't say he ran up the stairs to check on Weston,new can't say it for him, not only because it would be too kind. If he says it now, at this late stage, no-one but his fan club will believe him. Weston would have been on his mind the second he saw Amanda if events really had played out as he said they did - he would have called 911 as he bolted up the stairs. I think a baby could sleep through all that, though also might not, but it's strange the dog did not set up a racket.

rosy said...

Hey Jude said...

"There was a rehearsal for that sermon earlier in the week, Rosy, a video was posted on Instagram and later removed. Davey made notes for 'Worship as a Weapon - Shoot your Worries' well in advance - he posted photo of his notes on Twitter or Instagram - it was discussed in much earlier threads. He was excited about it."

Thanks! I knew about the notes, posted on Instagram. That is one example of how he over-claims originality. The theme of "Worship as a Weapon" based 2 Chronicles 20 is traditional. Other pastors had already put videos of their sermons on this theme on the Tube and their church pages, e.g. http://www.sdrock.com/messages/2013-09-22/

For Davey, taking a "selfie" of his notes and coffee mug = look, look how creative I am!

The main point is, if the rehearsal involved SHOOTING with the pistol and occurred before he could possibly have heard that LT had shot someone (on Nov 4) then, my hunch is wrong. Thanks for pointing this out!

rosy said...

FM25 thanks for pretrial link!

Hey Jude said...

New - we. ah, too much auto/predictive frustration.

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We try to be polite.

HISG said...

Hey Jude,

Sorry for confusing the statement.

However, he did say he checked on Weston and "he appeared OK" didnt he?

It's the lack of information that is concerning. Was he awake? Crying? Crying uncontrollably? Sound asleep. Why doesnt he describe this? In my opinion, it's because he doesnt want to describe the state Weston was in. He doesnt want to describe whether crying, screaming, saying "Dada", because his mouth was probably covered in duct tape.

rosy said...

Hey Jude,

on Mel the dog. Some people train their dogs early on, or have them trained, not to bark at strangers. Some dogs are super friendly and never do act as watch dogs.

DB and Amanda, as a pastoral couple, intentionally hept "open house" for members of Resonate including Amanda's teen group. The dog would have been used to people coming and going.

Larry Jo Taylor and his girl-friend had a dog like Mel. She posted a photo of their dog on social media, titled "We miss you Princess."

HISG said...

Also, upon 1st entering his home, he does not say "I opened the door and heard Weston crying from upstairs....". Yet he also does not say Weston was asleep when he checked on him. This would be important to mention that Weston was sleeping for many reasons, including feeling relieved Weston did not hear his mother being murdered by thugs. If it were me, I would say it. I checked on Weston and he was asleep and appeared OK. Davey does not hear crying upon entering the home, yet does not describe Weston as being "asleep" when he checks on him. Think about it.

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rosy said...

HISG

we have to distinguish between what DB or any witness may have SAID and what LE chose to write down and include in the Affidavit.

The document is for purposes of showing Probable Cause to arrest the named suspects.

Including e.g. that DNA was found on the pink sweater and even that DB acknowledged that a Swisher package should not have been in his house does go to Probable Cause.

Whether Weston was awake or still asleep and how Davey felt about Weston is not in the frame unless LE think the named suspects harmed or interfered with Weston.

DB is not their suspect, they don't write down anything he may have said on this topic.

HISG said...

Rosy,

No, the "I checked on Weston and he appeared OK is from a Davey quote. And he does not mention hearing Weston crying upstairs when he enters his home and finds Amanda. This is from what he has said publically.

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rosy said...

Ima.grandma

Thanks for those links. All I gleaned is that Davey took L-Arginine to build himself up ("Note to self: never pop 3 L-Argenine pills spontaineously. Shortened workout and hastened trip to the men's room immediately ensuing!").

L-Arginine has only a C rating from the Mayo Clinic for that purpose. I guess if he was taking it back then, he may have continued seeking pills to enhance his body-building.

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Leslie said...

Ima,
The thing that popped out about DB from the article about him organizing a Christian music festival is that he was a senior in high school. So, his family moved from Birmingham to Tuscaloosa (I somehow thought they moved out of state, but, that's 2 1/2 hours away) in time for his senior year of high school. That's actually impressive that DB took the initiative to do that. (I can't imagine moving during my senior year of hs, particularly if it was due to something I did that disgraced myself and my family.)

There was an old blog post about his family all holding each other, crying, and waiting on God, solely putting their trust in Him after the move. He made it sound like it was a huge upheaval and low point. We don't know for sure if Davey's Sades Valley HS lie was the cause of his father taking a new job and moving the family, but, it did seem to go together, in my mind.

Leslie said...

*Shades Valley HS

HISG said...

From what I just read in Davey's post "How is Weston Doing" it is very obvious Davey's lover is Amanda's best friend's husband. Or does a straight guy love having a good-looking sex-crazed straight man living woth him and his wife? Ding ding ding. Major clue noone's noticing!!!!!!!!

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Bingo3 said...

DB is constantly saying, "Let me be honest with you" and "Can we just be honest in church?" My friend who is a cop said that when someone says "Let me be honest with you" he knows Immediately they are about to lie. He has been a cop for over 20 years. I thought it was so interesting that DB said, if I can just be honest and transparent after he said it has been hard doing life without Amanda. Big Fat Lie. He has been quite gleeful doing life without his AB. He is a walking, talking, non-stop liar!

Leslie said...

For anyone who has not read DB's old blog post about his lie:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160510205338/http://livingtherealworld.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html

I didn't remember this part of the post:

"Tonight at Newspring, Perry talked about David and how severe his consequences were with his sins (You can check it out for yourself in 2 Samuel 11). Just think, David slept with his best friend's wife and then had his best friend killed when she got pregnant. He tried to cover one mistake up with another. Two wrongs DON'T make a right. Have you ever tried to lie your way out of a lie and it just keeps piling up until you are so far in you don't know how to move, let alone get out of it. That's what happened this weekend with the team. Emotions flared, tempers scourged, and some of the guys were forced to grow up and take responsibility for their actions."

Bingo3 said...

Thanks to the poster on update on the case. I am so curious to what is going on behind the scene with the gang members. I am glad to hear that the lawyers are requesting more documents. Is there a chance this will go to court? If anyone has any information on how this thing may play out from an attorney perspective would love to hear.

Hey Jude said...

HISG - Will you quote whatever part/s of Davey's blog post led you to that conclusion? I can't see it, but then I wasn't looking for it - there's no guarantee I would be able to find it, anyway. :) I suspect you are plucking some things out of the air, but if not, please share and explain.

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ima.grandma

Coach Lehman, it appears, started coaching well after DB left high school, in 2010. Or do I misunderstand the possible relevance?

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Discussion of the lie goes back to Peter's post
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/amanda-blackburn-murder-lie-in-high.html

"I remember my Junior year of High School, I got caught in a serious lie that affected my reputation with my teachers, the faculty at my school, and my baseball coach. I had spent several years building up a reputation and in one fail swoop, everything I had worked for crumbled in my hands. I had never felt so alone and empty. Even my friends didn't look at me the same after that. They all knew the life that I professed, but all that mattered to them was that my actions had not lined up with my talk. It took me a long time to build my credibility back up with my teachers, friends, and my parents.

"But, to be honest with you I wouldn't change that situation if I could, because that situation taught me that I can't get away with lies, I can't get away with sin, and it has partially made me into who I am today. Here are three things the Bible points out that we have to do when confronted with sin in our life and the consequences of that sin..."

and
DB blog April 10, 2006:

"My dad has always strove to be in the center of God's will. I remember when we moved to Tuscaloosa right before my Senior of high school. You better believe that he was concerned about uprooting his family and moving somewhere else, but he constantly reminded us that the center of God's will is the only place we will find true fulfillment. I recall one night in particular where our whole family sat in the living room, holding each other, crying, hugging, and praying, not knowing where God was going to lead us, only having each other as stability in this chaotic world."

HISG said...

Hey Jude and everyone,

I tried to post this earlier from Davey's blog post titled "How is Weston Doing?" but my phone would not cooperate. Now I am on my laptop.

This passage reveals Davey is gay with his "worship leader" Derek.

"My worship leader, Derek, and his wife, Ashley, live with me now. People have their own opinions about this living situation, but frankly I don’t care about anyone else’s opinion. They don’t have to live this thing out 24/7 like I do. I’ve learned to be very leery of taking advice from people who either (1) have never lived through the situation, or (2) don’t have to live out out the advice with you.

Both Derek and Ashley have helped tremendously in carrying the weight of household responsibilities. They have helped me make our home a haven for Weston. Ashley was Amanda’s very best friend. Her love for Weston and her involvement in his everyday life is something that would make Amanda beam with joy! She does all the cooking for us, she helps keep the house clean, she helps get him to and from places, and she spends time with Weston as if he’s her own. I love seeing this. As affectionate as I am with Weston, it is still so important for him to have consistent female/motherly affection in his life."

Full analysis to come later on tonight.

In the meantime, just ask yourself

1) What straight man would let a good-looking, admittedly sex-crazed porn-addicted man live with him and his wife?

The answer: NONE

2) What gay man would let a good-looking sex-crazed porn-addicted man live with him and his wife?

The answer: MOST

One thing you can look for while you await my analysis, is the overarching theme in Davey's little snippet which is that Amanda's "best friend" is now he and Derek's maid/beard/servant.

Also, if you look at the picture of Davey and Weston, you can clearly see that a gay man is picking out/shopping for clothes for both of them. Much too stylish.



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Here is the full blog post titled "How Is Weston Doing?"

https://daveyblackburn.com/2016/04/22/how-is-weston-doing/

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I'm a civil lit girl, don't know much about criminal but I do know my way around a courthouse. I plan on going to the ptc if it doesn't get pushed again. I'll def be posting here whatever I find out.

Fm25 said...

So glad to have u back on the thread ima. you're like a super sleuth on the web and you crack me up too :) was just watching the tornado coverage on tv, that's some crazy stuff! Glad to hear you and you're family are safe!

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ima.grandma -

thanks much for the coach link(s).

HISG said...

Imagrandma,

Thank you for your link...I checked out the main section of the website, and yes, absolutely, that is what we are dealing with here is a "false teacher/prophet who's personal life is full of immorality.

"Some false teachers carefully cultivate public images as teachers of righteousness, yet their personal lives are filled with sexual immorality, lies and manipulation of God’s people. Again their goal is personal gain."

CJ said...

One more ... DB's beginnings in Fuse:

https://tonymorganlive.com/2008/09/05/the-future-of-student-ministry/

Here’s how Davey recently described how we’re initially going to approach student ministry in Greenville:

Tonight we are cranking up what we’re calling Fuse*Groups. This will take place in 4 rather large homes across the city every week from 6:30-8:30pm. At these homes we will pack 40-60 students in a very relaxed and conversational environment. As our numbers grow Fuse*Group homes will spawn new homes. Our MINIMUM vision is to have a home for every grade per high school and middle school.

At these homes we will have some very intentional “hangout” time with students . . . A time of video teaching from all kinds if crazy intense locations . . . And some focused small group discussion time.

These small groups will be divided by age and gender and will facilitate discussion about how the video teaching can be applied to each of the student’s lives.

Then, once a month we will come back to the GVL Campus and, in place of Fuse*Groups that week, we will have Fuse* (a huge celebration and what I will call a “throw down”). You never know what’s gonna go down here so bring all your friends.

CJ said...

And an early video:
https://vimeo.com/1654504?pg=embed&sec=1654504

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"They have helped me make our home a HAVEN for Weston".

A haven from what?
Why would Weston require "a haven"?
The word "haven" implies a "a place of escape": It is Davey's love haven with Derek. HIs place where he can be gay without judgement or prying eyes. A place where he can keep it "a secret".

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ALERT:

http://fox59.com/2015/11/12/a-role-model-for-everyday-life-church-family-remembers-pastors-wife-shot-in-home-invasion/

Have you people seen this???? An interview done while Amanda was still hooked up to a ventilator with Derek and Ashley both grinning from ear to ear like Cheshire Cats? These 2 are scumbags...they, especially Ashley are grinning demonically, making Scott Peterson grinning about Laci's murder look like child's play.

I will tell you right now. Davey did not act alone.

These 2 scumbags are grinning and it is evil, unmistakable. Trust me, I've known some very evil people and I can recognize it.

You people want to be looking closely at these two.

rosy said...

The house may be a place to hold a FUSE group as described CJ's post above at 7:23 PM

HISG said...

If you watch the video pay special attention to Ashley's grinning and the look in her eyes.

This is not a best friend in mourning.

This is a woman who was intensely jealous of Amanda, and wanted her child. She looks absolutely thrilled, delighted that Amanda is near dead. Weston is a gorgeous baby and I bet Ashley was jealous that Amanda had such a beautiful baby.

There is absolutely no way these 2 were not involved.

HISG said...

Davey is so full of shit to say that Amanda found that homely nasty woman to be her "Mom hero" or to be so full of poise.

Amanda outshines Ashley like a light against darkness.

Ashley looks like a stoner who sits eating ding dongs all day on the couch in sweatpants.

Oh, that Ashley was jealous of her!

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Who is Brad Cooper? What's the purpose of spamming this thread with his blog posts?

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Anonymous said...
Who is Brad Cooper? What's the purpose of spamming this thread with his blog posts?

Lookey here Brad, you don't intimidate me buddy. #getalawyer

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Hey Jude said...

Maybe there are different understandings of borderline personality disorder.

I have two diagnosed borderline young people in my life (mid-twenties). One I have known since infancy, the other for several years; their personality types and backgrounds could not be more different - the only thing they have in common, besides being of the same sex, is that they were both badly bullied throughout their childhoods - they both fit this to a tee:

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/10714448-you-all-misunderstand-borderline-personality.

Here also, is my understanding of what BPD is - it's a similar outline:

http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/borderline-personality-disorder-bpd/#.VzJ5HvB4WrU

From what I can see, Davey does not fit BPD - he holds it together, he is confident, he believes in himself and he is very driven, whereas BPD people are so fragile, paranoid and vulnerable, that they sometimes are barely able to function - if they form plans, they often are unable to keep things together for long enough to complete what they would like to do. It can be a pretty debilitating condition, even with meds - quite heartbreaking, also disturbing, at times. I think we are either talking about different conditions, or what is meant by BPD varies a fair bit from place to place.

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lynda said...

Ima grandma, praying for you and yours, I can't even imagine both your parents having surgery and ill at the same time and then tornados! Oh my goodness. I hope you get sleep and peace and will continue to pray for all of you!

Bobcat is on vacation, isn't he? I think he might be the one that has saved everything concerning Davey.

Ima, what a catch with the baseball coach! Just another coincidence in Davey's life? Not.

I know that LE was led to Alonzo thru cell records. All these phone calls from the perps going to A's phone. That's why I think A is the CI, because he should have been arrested also.

HISG said...

After watching that video of grinning Ashley, I can see what happened: Amanda was like Sleeping Beauty and Ashley the wicked queen jealous of her goodness and beauty and who stole her child. Davey is gay with wicked queen's husband.

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HISG said...

The grin on Ashley's face...Best example of duper's delight I've ever seen.

rosy said...

Hey Jude -

I agree. He does not have BPD.

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Givemeabreak said...

Anon asked imagrandma

Who is Brad Cooper? What's the purpose of spamming this thread with his blog posts?

Imagrandma is the alterego of a sophisticated troll on here who disarms people with her "medical crises". Hasnt imagrandma been up for 36 hours yet so full of crime-solving energy.
It makes me doubt the SA skills of some on here that they dont recognize imagrandma for what she is.

Bobcat said...

lynda,

I'm back. I'm also a female.

I have DB's old (pre-2009) blogs saved, but not the most recent (2009-2012...) one. I did read the entire thing and posted relevant parts (the big lie) in a previous blog.

Givemeabreak said...

Who would ever think imagrandma was actually a troll when she presents herself as a sweet little old lady struggling to solve crime through major health crises and what was it today? Running from a tornado?

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Hey Jude said...

Yes, I do try not to respond solely from a position of personal bias, though, Ima - well, I am aware of it. :)

I made a little something for Davey and Brad and for all of us, too. Strictly mischief mode - God didn't speak to me in the shower.

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Davey's Complaint
"For you write down bitter things against me and make me reap the sins of my youth."
(Job 13:26)

For Brad Cooper
"Yea, he loved cursing, and it came unto him; And he delighted not in blessing, and it was far from him."
(Psalm 109:17)

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These Comment Threads
"There is no place where earth’s failings
Have such kindly judgement given."

(From a hymn of Frederick W Faber)
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/t/h/e/therwide.htm

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Just thought to put that out there. :-D


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Ima.grandma - I followed off another link on one you made earlier - it was about overcoming one's 'auto-petulance'. Apparently, if you really don't want to do something, rather than put it off, you have to say, 'I don't want to do this, but I am going to do it', and just do it,rather than being all petulant and not doing it. In this way auto-petulance can be overcome. Lol. I will have a go at that, tomorrow, maybe. :)

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Anonymous said...

Give it a rest, ima.grandma!

imagrandpa said...

imagrandma,

What is your point with these endless posts by "Brad"? Are you just trying to interrupt the continuity of the discussion and make it impossible to discuss the case?
Shouldn't you try to rest and get some sleep since you've been up for almost 48 hours now?

imagrandpa said...

Or at least give your alterego imagrandma some rest and let "Sus" come out for a while.

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I guess running from tornadoes brings out your obnoxious side imagrandma.

Really sick of your "Brad" posts.

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Bobcat said...

ima.grandma:

"Boom . . . Roasted

Anyone who has been a part of a creative team knows that this is STRAIGHT UP TRUFE!

Not to mention it’s flippin’ hilarious . . . If these principles are not applied, this is how your work can turn out . . .

Note: there's a video that can't link.

May 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM"

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Is the above a quote or personal post?

imagrandpa said...

imagrandma,

Time for some warm milk and bedtime.

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Lynda said:

"Ima grandma, praying for you and yours, I can't even imagine both your parents having surgery and ill at the same time and then tornados! Oh my goodness. I hope you get sleep and peace and will continue to pray for all of you!"

This is where Ima lost me. "She" has been unnecessarily wordy for some time, posting multiple times to the point of being confusing, but this is a SA blog; not a blog to seek sympathy and counseling. Also, she was a guard in a women's prison? Really.

Hey Jude said...

HISG - That video of the Barretts is rather concerning, I agree. I've thought that since November 11th, or maybe it was the 12th - it was before Amanda died, but after Davey announced that she was dead. Just Amanda, no baby at that stage.

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'Sweet dreams are made of this, who am I to disagree?' M- The Eurythmics, is going through my mind. Androgynous. Anyone want to go all Stream of Consciousness, now, seeing as the thread has gotten that way and is probably irredeemable? Brad's Stream I do not care for. But it's not all about me (as Davey would say, through recently straightened teeth). I don't mean it, plus it is time for me to sleep. Probably you should sleep, too, Ima Grandma. I don't know if I will.

imagrandpa said...

Anon 10:22,

Although constantly telling fabricated stories, imagrandma is a favorite on here, and noone on an SA blog can see though the "tall tales".

imagrandma gives it away in her screenname "imagrandma" that her persona is made up, however these are soft-hearted people on here, who, ironically, assume the best of people although on a crime-solving blog and who don't recognize deception quite as often as they should.

This blindness of theirs is an enigma to me.

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Bobcat said...

A few articles back, there was a poster Leave_Meg_Alone who used the phrase "flippin'"

I thought it might be PN, the grand poobah himself - who also favors "flippin'", but "LMA" assured me that he wasn't PN and corrected me using vulgar language.

So, we have "flippin'" and rude vulgar language.

Hello Brad Cooper!

HISG said...

Hey Jude,

I agree, the video is VERY concerning.

Ashley looks tickled pink that Amanda has been the victim of a brutal crime. I am paraphrasing but when she says something to the effect of "Amanda wouldn't want this to be the end" with a grin almost breaking into laughter, she is mocking Amanda. She is mocking her piety, her purity, and the fact that she held onto her faith in the midst of pure evil.

These 2 look like stoners. They act like stoners, almost breaking into laughter as they speak. The guy's got tattoos. Amanda was a graceful, well-dressed, composed, radiant woman who would not have fit in with those people and would NOT have enjoyed their company OR have wanted them around Weston! She would not have admired that woman as her "Mommy Hero".

I wonder what possible connections Derek and Ashley had with the home invaders. I wonder where Ashley and Derek were that fateful night/morning.

Oh, and there is no way in hell Amanda would be beaming with delight, as Davey claims, to have Ashley around Weston all the time.

Hey Jude said...

Ima.grandpa - some of us give people the benefit of our broad doubts, even if we suspect we are being played. It has been suggested previously that Ima,Grandma is also Sus. I think Sus, who denied being Ima,Grandma, adopted a different persona a little while back, one who posts quite frequently, in a similar style to Sus.

Everyone who doesn't post under their real identity is a bit of a troll, so it doesn't do to discriminate on the basis that someone might be more of a troll than the next person. Old-fashioned trolls are quite rare these days, mostly it's insult and vulgarity, which isn't real trolling. All the good words are stolen and reassigned to the sometimes undeserving. :) There was a time when there were trolls who trolled the trolls - now it's all Facebook and Kittens. It's almost enough to make some of us lose the will to live, but not quite.

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Ima,grandma - How can you be so confident that Anon is never Peter? Would you still speak like that if you thought it might be? Would you speak to anyone like that in real life?

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Hey Jude said...

I agree with much of that, HISG - it can't have escaped anyone else's notice either. Amanda's parents. I don't see how they cannot be besides themselves to have those gloating people replace Amanda in Weston's life.

I need to sleep - I have almost run out of days. :)

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This discussion is now derailed and reframed.

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This discussion is now derailed and reframed.

Right. Because of you.

Hey Jude,

I actually think imagrandma is the "turd troll" and "avinom sapir spelled backwards is rapist troll"...in other words a real troll, and a male.

Hey Jude said...

Imagrandpa

I don't like to be precious but 'turd troll' is not in my personal subjective dictionary, nor is it in my vocabulary. I get your drift, but I think I'd rather not Google it.

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I have to sleep or I'm going to miss my flight - I still have a day in hand to clean the house, and to pack, and get to the airport, which is a few hours away, but I am cutting things a bit fine. How to Overcome Auto-Petulance - just go to sleep.
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What relationship is Brad to Davey, again? - I missed that bit.

Imagrandpa said...

Oh yes...and "Lynda" is "Sus".

Anonymous said...

Who is Brad and why are we carried away with his blogging?
I'm sort of ready to give it a rest.

HISG said...

Anyone ever thought that what evil grinning Ashley, stoner Derek and Davey have in common and why they live together is DRUGS? Amanda, I'm sure, did not do drugs and did not want to be around them. THAT, in and of itself, is enough to make them TURN on her. She would been looked at as the big "bummer", lame, getting in the way of their high. I've seen addicts act like this, to where they literally want to "annihilate" someone they feel is getting in the way of their drug party.

Think of the word he used to describe his living situation with Derek and Ashley: a "haven". A "haven" perhaps, away from Amanda, who would have objected to their drug use. Both look/act high in the interview. Might even be meth.

HISG said...

From Davey's post " I want to tell you about your Mommy"

Weston, you need to know your mommy was brave. When you get older you’re going to have lots of questions about what happened the morning she was killed. I know it up-ended your world as much as anyone’s. She walked you upstairs the night before, sang to you, prayed with you, kissed you and tucked you into bed. And that was the last time you saw her. I know it is really difficult without her, buddy, but you should know she would have done anything to protect you. She loved you more than life itself. I found a quote on her phone that read, “Sometimes your greatest assignment in life isn’t what you do, but who you raise.” She embraced that assignment to the fullest extent. She gave her life so you could have yours. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she did what she had to do that morning to protect you. She loved you that much.

"She walked you upstairs the night before, sang to you, prayed with you, kissed you and TUCKED YOU INTO BED."

Is this leakage that Weston was not put into his crib to sleep but rather on Amanda's bed?
How do you sing to, pray with and tuck into bed if the toddler was put into a crib?
Why does he call the "crib" a "BED"?
Because if he fell asleep with Amanda in her bed and Davey slept on the couch "spent some time with the Lord right there on the couch", this changes everything and strongly incriminates Davey.

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A crib is a baby bed and the two are interchangeable in the South where Davey was raised.

rosy said...

Hey Jude said
What relationship is Brad to Davey, again?
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Brad is another pastor in the NewSpring "family," he was there around the same time as Davey. He was kept on staff. Current position:


Brad Cooper
Executive Pastor of Ministries
https://newspring.cc/pastors

I take it that ima.grandma, finding the trove of Brad's old blog via waybackmachine, was on a tear to demonstrate the culture of NewSpring. Emphasis on CULTure.

DB is not alone in his awfulness. Each of them is awful in his own peculiar style. NewSpring trains them to be awful to the max. The younger NS can get hold of kids, the sooner the brainwashing starts. FUSE groups etc. It's predatory.

https://newspring.cc/pastors/campuspastors

Avoid them!

HISG said...

Why does Weston have a red mark near his ear and hairline and also what appears to be bruising near his ear in the April 6 picture of him lying on his side sleeping in his playpen? That is an unusual place to have a bruise. Someone not treating him well in the new "haven" that is home?

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imagrandpa said...
"Anon 10:22,

Although constantly telling fabricated stories, imagrandma is a favorite on here, and noone on an SA blog can see though the "tall tales".

imagrandma gives it away in her screenname "imagrandma" that her persona is made up, however these are soft-hearted people on here, who, ironically, assume the best of people although on a crime-solving blog and who don't recognize deception quite as often as they should."

These commenters assume the best of each other; however, they have shown themselves to be easily lost in a world of fantasy, leaving behind SA to create movie-worthy scenarios regarding the murder.

Yet......imagrandma appears to be believed -- lock, stock and barrel, as you pointed out. Imagrandma has made me go "huh?" a few times now, beginning many posts ago, but the mom/dad/tornado story did it for me. Sure enough, look at the ensuing behavior through the intentionally derailing posts.

Maybe Peter will block the ip, so this otherwise pretty good SA discussion can get back on track.

MB

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Although my background is RC and my kids have been baptized RC and attend Catholic H.S., they know far more about religion than I do. It was a conscientious decision to put them into the Catholic system because in H.S. they go from RC to world religion which I feel is necessary to learn/understand because of the global community they will be living in/working in.

Having said that, I have a cynical view to religion. I'm speaking specifically about the RC church. I liken religion to a multi-level-marketing program. Each "man of cloth" (theologist/history teacher) I have been acquainted with has an earth-bound vocation that the church uses to their advantage. For example, the church up the road from us was restored umpteen years ago and at the same time they built a reception hall so as to create a revenue stream for the church. The priest's vocation was engineering and project management. His job is done and he has been relocated to another church because it needs work. Another priest I have been acquainted with, his vocation was business. He was parachuted into a new community with no church. His "job" was to grow the church, the money to be used to purchase a rectory and a plot of land to eventually build a proper church. The problem there was that negotiating with the city gave him heart problems and he had to retire. Fast forward fifteen years and they now have a priest in the area who once "resurrected" a flailing church in my city, proper. This guy is an excellent speaker, known for being able to pull in a crowd (making a lot of money). This guy was also arrested for defrauding the church of $$ and gambling it away. That was a few years ago. He's done his time, he was relocated to another province for a period of time, and now he's back at said church with a mandate: grow the church.

The reason why Davey and Amanda relocated to Indy to "grow a church" was because the area they relocated from was "saturated" with Springhill. (The thing about MLMs is that you usually don't know how many consultants are selling in your area, else you probably wouldn't jump on the "business opportunity".) Davey had worked through the ranks at home and he was promoted to pastor (go forth and multiply). They (upper echelon/whomever was investing in Davey,) had to pick a location that wasn't saturated with the "product" (religion) they were "selling" (tithing). Davey was weak, (love of Jesus,) but Amanda, who was the daughter of a man of cloth, (leant credibility to what they were selling,) made up for his shortcomings. She was authentic, and if she said she would pray for you, you knew she would, with her whole heart. If it wasn't for Amanda, he would never have been given the "business opportunity" to go forth and multiply. Amanda was the Golden Goose. To her dying day, she had no clue that she was just an attribute of the product [they] were selling. She was the "sizzle" in the steak commercial.

Davey is doing nothing but spinning gold with her memory. He wants to be a rock star, (thinks he is,) but even with his "new" make over, (face stubble and acid washed jean jacket rolled to the elbows,) he looks like Wham redux. In other words, contrived.

It makes me sad that there are so many "lost" and lonely souls. If church (community) is what these people are in search of, there are many "churches" congregating every day. From soup kitchens, to tree planting, to fundraising... and they're free!

jmo









Nic said...

Further to above, I posted in another thread about trends. Given the number of Baby Boomers (largest demographic ever,) in their golden years, religion is a booming business.

I think Davey and Amanda were used to "test market" the younger demographic who were thought to be living away/disconnected/estranged from their family. They were used to make religion look "hip", religion being their "friend". The purpose: get them in the door and retain them and their kids, and so on and so forth.

Kind of like Ketchup. If mom always bought Heinz, then chances are the kids will, too. (Brand recognition.)





Nic said...

Look familiar?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l3kiAhrmnRw/maxresdefault.jpg

Bingo3 said...

I just started watching a little of DB Mother's Day sermon and he talks about how emotional he is about the day while he smiles and doesn't seem even a little sad. I guess I need to be looking for the "Let me be honest" that is sure to come soon. Also, I can't wrap my head around what DB is wearing. He is dressing more and more feminine. I Look back at his Love Songs series. He does where tight clothes and pants, making sure that the ripples of his muscles show through as much as possible. However, he is progressively getting more "Wham-ish" (as one poster put, ha!) The clothes he wore the last few weeks including super tight rolled up jeans and tight jackets are downright lady-like. What is going on?

Hey Jude said...

Thanks, Rosy.

HISG - that's even more not vaguely SA. (Next step, 'photos of Weston have been photoshopped. I know an expert...'? )

Imagrandpa - Lynda is not Sus - beyond that no comment - it's pointless - people can be who they like online - maybe they have a good reason to pretend not to be themselves.



Hey Jude said...

Bingo - maybe he's trying to turn himself into the more authentic Amanda. Or he just doesn't want to waste her clothes
#nothingiswasted

Nic said...

https://daveyblackburn.com/2016/05/09/weston-i-want-to-tell-you-about-your-mommy/

snip] ...As you grow up I know there will be something magnetic about you because of your mommy. She had that. There was something in her beauty that was most certainly beyond the surface level and yet oozed out of her for everyone to notice. It was the kind of beauty that made every man take notice. It was the kind of beauty that made every woman angry and envious. She was radiant. [end snip]
____________

DB knows this how? Isn't the party line "Amanda had no enemies, everybody loved her."

Maybe he's projecting? Feeling a little too cool in Amanda's shadow?

Nic said...

Something else about MLMs and the business opportunity. When prospecting clients/customers, you want to target two sorts of individuals. The first, lost and in need of a place where they belong/be accepted (easy to groom/make dependent,) the second being those with more money than month.

The younger demographic has a tendency to be more emotional/spontaneous with their disposable income. If you can tap into that vulnerability, then you can skim the cream from the top.

It's exactly how ObamaCare was marketed and accepted. How else for a bankrupt government to pay for massive aging cohort in need of "quality of life" health care? The demand is crushing the government's budget. All western governments. They can't be so bold as to raise taxes to the level they need to support health care, so instead, in the US, they created a "universal" health care program, targeting the younger demographic with more money than month. Why allow them to put that money into their 401k? Why allow them to travel? Why allow them to save for a downpayment for their house *and* furnish it? Why, why, why... not tap into that "more money than month", strap them with obscene premiums and brand it with the name "Obama" so that nobody would dare balk at the government's audacity to blatantly pillage the tax payer, even more!

The trick is to tapping into the emotional response. Once you've engaged it, it's pennies from heaven, baby!

mom2many said...

I had two thoughts this morning. I might be spent for the rest of the day, since the baby is going through a rough patch in his night sleep.

I began to think about Amanda as a witness to the faith. We have all noted how much deeper and more authentic her faith was than Davey's. Is it possible, alive, she was detrimental to Resonate? Would she inspire true faith, nurturing that faith in others to the point they would begin to see beyond the brand and search for a real community of faithful?

We have a plant, somewhat similar but not quite as over the top, here in my little town. A church in a neighboring community that we were members of when we lived there, helped sponsor the pastor at the beginning, so when we moved here, it was natural for us to begin attending there. Within the month, I realized that church had nothing to offer a mature Christian. I went on a long faith journey, actually ending up converting to the Catholic Church.

Second, from one of Davey's sermons, maybe the second or third since he came off his "mourning" period, he told a story about over hearing gangsters planning a hit. The underling said something along the lines of, "Don't worry. I'll take care of it." Speculation about the friends Davey is living with brought that back to my memory.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to start using the word "flippin" in all my posts just to mess with poor bobcat, who thinks that term was invented by Perry Noble and only people from Newspring use it. Seems fair enough since she declared that any time someone defends Meg she's going to pick on Meg even more. [Cue bobcat posting a bunch of junk about Meg in 5, 4, 3, 2 .... ]

Bobcat said...

Anonymous said...
"I'm going to start using the word "flippin" in all my posts just to mess with poor bobcat, who thinks that term was invented by Perry Noble and only people from Newspring use it. Seems fair enough since she declared that any time someone defends Meg she's going to pick on Meg even more. [Cue bobcat posting a bunch of junk about Meg in 5, 4, 3, 2 .... ]"
May 11, 2016 at 11:10 AM
------------------------

This SA isn't about me, but you are very sensitive to my posts. Why? How close are Meg, Perry, and Brad to you?

Do you think DB's statements indicate guilty knowledge of Amanda's death?

You assert knowledge of my thoughts. Are you a mindreader?

Do you think Perry, Meg or Brad care about DB's language?

Do you think they care about the immature Christians they accept money from?

Anonymous said...

I don't have to be a mind reader. Every time someone says flippin, you flip out and say they're Perry Noble or someone from Newspring who posts here. It's hilarious.

Bingo3 said...

LOL Hey Jude about DB! And I meant wear instead of where. Ugh, I post in the morning before I drink enough coffee!

HISG said...

Hey Jude,

Actually photos are discussed quite a bit here. An example would be the photos which showed bruising on Ayla Reynolds face.
Of course, I guess that is irrelevant in this case to look at that photo of Weston which reveals bruising on Weston. After all, most here think his father is a cold-blooded calculated murderer, but surely he must be treating Weston well.
After all, it's so much more useful to discuss the roots of Davey's Newspring beliefs and whether he is lying about getting in trouble in high school both of which are exhaustively pointless in solving this case.

April 6: Photo of Weston on Davey's twitter or instagram or whatever the hell it is: bruising/red marks near his ear: unusual place for bruising. I am wondering if he is being abused.

Anonymous said...

Omg, y'all! In the Instagram photo DB posted two weeks ago, it looks like DB has two black eyes! Someone is abusing him!

Oh wait ..... it's just shadows, sun damage and a bad choice of Instagram filter.

Hey Jude said...

Okay, no need to be snarky - Newspring beliefs are part of the ideology, the subject loosely under discussion on this thread. PN will probably issue a disclaimer, all beliefs of his pastors are personal opinion, and not necessarily reflective of Christianity or its standards. Just suggestions, sort of thing.

I can't see any bruising - I'll have a look on my laptop later, the tablet screen is small. Even if he is bruised, he maybe bumped his head on the side of his crib, or fell down the stairs (again). Toddlers have bumps and falls. Just because some here believe Davey is a cold-blooded calculated murderer, doesn't mean that he surely is, or that he is abusing Weston physically.

mom2many said...

The red mark appears to be a mosquito/insect bite. I don't detect bruising, but I'm on my phone so if I looked at better resolution, it might look moreso. The skin around the temple area is often thinner/more translucent than in other areas. If there is bruising, he might have walked into a table. My youngest son is nearly exactly a month younger than Weston. He doesn't always know where the top or side of his head is in relation to objects, particularly tables. Also, Davey did mention he fell down the stairs. His particular scenario sounded neglectful, the way he described walking away from him. But such things are not always simply neglect. Kids that age move much more quickly than you expect sometimes.

Fm25 said...

I remember the first time and then again last night was in reference to the original time. So it's been one poster that he questioned bc of using the word "flipping". Really not a big deal, why so sensitive about it?

Bobcat said...

Fm25,

I believe that my catch of "flippin'" may hit too close for comfort.

That I am now the target is interesting for SA.

Troll phrases:

Flippin'
Flip out
Y'all
Mess with
fair enough
pick on

Anonymous said...

Omg don't flippin mess with Bobcat for picking on Meg, she'll flip out, y'all!

Lol bobcat you're not as good as you think you are. Not even close. You want SO BADLY to be talking to someone connected to this case, but you're not. Poor bobcat.

ima.grandma said...

A farewell post to the appropriate: #figureitout

http://love.catchsmile.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/I-Dont-Care-What-People-Say-About-me-I-Know-Who-I-Am-and-I-Dont-Have-to-Prove-Anything-to-Anyone.jpg


A farewell post to the appropriate: #youllknow

http://img.picturequotes.com/2/39/38934/you-are-important-and-you-matter-your-feelings-matter-your-voice-matters-your-story-matters-your-quote-1.jpg

rosy said...

Nic said...
10:30 AM

It's exactly how ObamaCare was marketed and accepted....
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Nic spent a paragraph attacking Obamacare, with no sound economic basis for doing so and no connection to this case.

Please keep presidential politics out of this discussion.



Leslie said...

I will try to choose my words wisely. I often say "y'all," and sometimes use "flippen," "friggin," etc (instead of the other F word). I'm originally from the South and these words / slang are commonly used there. I'm not a troll.

Ima, I enjoyed your input and contributions. I'm a bit lost in all of the dynamics of the various screen personalities, so I won't comment on all that transpired....

lynda said...

Imagrandpa said...
Oh yes...and "Lynda" is "Sus".

May 10, 2016 at 11:57 PM

______________

Nope! I'm Lynda and have always been Lynda. I'm just reading and waiting for Peter's next blog.

rosy said...

ima.grandma -

hey, nice picture quotes. Have you noticed how DB is using a lot more of these on his Instagram and FB in place of personal photos? Perhaps his media manager is choosing them for him with his approval.


DB and Resonate, and to an extent PN and NewSpring, are in crisis management mode. PN already had experience with this. Up to a point comparison can be made with Tylenol after the cyanide deaths disaster.

Business specialists say J&J saved Tylenol and swiftly made it even more popular than before by realizing

1) "Values based brands outperform non-values based brands on trust, credibility and listenability."

Resonate, like Tylenol, is a values based brand. To pump up "credibility and listenability," PN stepped in at the memorial service and sent in a line of preachers while DB was on hiatus. Whether "trust" was maintained/restored long term remains to be seen, but so far customer base has expanded and continues to grow.


2) "Crisis management is not about public relations driven ‘damage control’. It’s about business continuity. About affirmative strategic, business-centric action with a strong focus on the victims in a crises."

NewSpring and Resonate's explicit "capitalization" of Amanda's murder as an event that elevated her into the arms of Jesus in Heaven keeps a strong focus on Amanda as victim of the crisis while increasingly foregrounding the business itself as the best of all solutions to the "pain" of everyday life.

Three further recognized keys to Tylenol's recovery are more in doubt in the case of Resonate:

3. "Assume responsibility for the solution, even if you don’t have to, because it’s about the publics’ trust in your brand and the test of your character."

4. "Act quickly, honestly and decisively."

5. "Good behavior delivers great returns. Remember the high cost of low trust."
http://www.biznews.com/thought-leaders/2013/11/15/five-key-lessons-from-tylenol-crisis/
http://www.aerobiologicalengineering.com/wxk116/TylenolMurders/crisis.html

lynda said...

PN has the same "vision" that L. Ron had as far as I'm concerned. Wanna be rich? Start a religion. PN is trying, starting with the Ten Commandments being only "suggestions". All he needs is one good visit with God in his shower and he'll write a whole new story and people will follow.

Concerned said...


Alonzo Duguoise Bull
1 hr ·
"I don't rob but I'll def. Put my young Niggaz on you an act like I never knew."

Alonzo doesn't mind getting the word out that he sends young men/boys to commit planned crimes.
There is no doubt that he rounded up the thugs who killed Amanda and in my mind, there is little doubt that Davey knew they were coming.

For a thug who wears his waistband on his crotch, he has high standing in the Kilt gang. I hope those involved in the Blackburn crime say something that will open him up about Davey.
Won't the police have to reveal him (or whoever) as the CI in court?

Anonymous said...

Leslie, you can use flippin and friggin and y'all all you want. You don't have to tiptoe around the people who get mental about it.

Like you, I'm from the South and use those words, too. The word police should stop flipping out (lol) and accusing people of being from Newspring just because they use them.

mom2many said...

I believe that if they want to use any of the CI's testimony in court, he/she has to testify directly and be available for cross-examination.

HISG said...

My, my, my...

So, this is merely a sewing circle designed to talk about "bad boy Davey" and entertain, but only to pass the hours, the notion that Davey is a cold-blooded killer of poor Weston's mother. Not really a concept to take seriously. Oh no. He's a good-looking man, amusing to spend the hours waiting for his latest fashion show on twitter/instagram RATHER THAN SOLVE THIS CRIME AND HELP POOR WESTON!!!
How strange to dismiss the photo of bruised Weston as nothing (please look at it on a laptop). How peculiar to believe this monstrous killer's story that Weston "fell down the stairs". Just like Justin "fell" holding little Ayla and just like Ayla "got into a fight in the Chuckie Cheese ball pit". But Justin, unlike Davey-boy, looks like white trash, whereas Davey, dressed so smartly, hair styled so perfectly, could never be a child abuser, although most here believe him to be a mother-killer.
Have another cup of naivete while you continue the chit-chat about Davey being a baseball coach, and wrack your brains silly figuring out whether Davey really got in trouble with the principal.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION, BRUISING NEAR OR ON THE EARS CAN BE A RED FLAG FOR CHILD ABUSE.
I AM HORRIFIED TO SEE YOU SUPPOSED TRUTH SEARCHERS ARE BELIEVING DAVEY'S STORY ABOUT WESTON "FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS.
WESTON IS A CHILD AT RISK.
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

LBean said...

I don't understand. If Alonzo was linked to the murderers and also friends on fb w davey...how was davey cleared? You would think fb connections would be the first investigatory box to tick off, in 2016.

Is this connection unknown outside of this blog? Did anyone save it? WTH.

Concerned said...

I don't remember Alonzo and Davey being FB Friends.
I remember Alonzo's friend, Treezy being Davey's Friend until it was mentioned here and "poof!" that "Friend" was no more!
A look at Treezy's FB pages would leave you with little doubt that he is a burglarizing thug recovering from gunshot wounds.

rosy said...

Concerned said...

Alonzo Duguoise Bull
1 hr ·
"I don't rob but I'll def. Put my young Niggaz on you an act like I never knew."

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Good catch! Here's a thought. Why did Alonzo let Larry Jo Taylor Jr wear his black Pelle-Pelle jacket to go out on an armed-with-revolver job? Taylor was seen wearing that jacket in video from the 1st burglary and in 2 videos of his walking away from the Blackburns' house.

Did Alonzo expect the jacket to be recognized as his? Was he sending a message via the jacket to someone who'd seen him in it, someone he was putting LT onto?

Various possibilities - if the crime was a hit arranged by or on behalf of DB, was DB instructed to wait in his house until after he sees someone in that jacket enter the neighbor's house, then drive off to the gym?

Or if the crime was to punish DB or AB&DB or Resonate, was the jacket used as a signature to communicate where this punishment was coming from?

Or was the jacket a signature to tell other gangsters what AB is capable of?

Or was it a simple error on Alonzo's part, letting LT borrow?

rosy said...

Oops, I have 2 "ABs" in the post above. AB&DB -> Amanda and DB. The second AB is Alonzo Bull, who might have let Taylor use the Pelle-Pelle jacket as "colors" or uniform to boast to Alonzo's rivals. However, that assumes Bull expected the 3 bangers to get seen and described in the media if not caught, and we can't assume that. Stupid as they are, maybe they took selfies (joke).

rosy said...

HISG said...,

calm down, lose the CAPS, and post a link to the info on falling down the stairs with date for that. I looked at the photo, don't any bruise, see 2 small red dots, scratches or nicks.

LBean said...

OK so Alonzo's friend was friends w Davey. Does LE know this? I mean it seems so basic, but I have to ask. Surely "unfriending" someone is not an absolute negation of the connection, forensics-wise?

Are we just assuming LE will, or has stumbled across this, or has someone notified them? Or is the bureacracy so clueless that they'd disregard this degree of separation?

snap said...

It is not a bruise. It is slightly pinkish/rosy area. This is a pretty light-skinned child. 3 points: #1) he could have been sleeping on that side of his head and rolled over or had been asleep in someone's arms and just been lain down- my kids often had rosy areas where there had been pressure on the body part- I still get them when I have slept really hard in a spot- arms cheeks, #2) he looks like he was put down recently to the pics: the blanket is just right and he appears to be sleepy quite soundly- the way busy toddlers usually do, #3 there is no swelling at all.

I think making up physical child abuse claims is not cool. And it is distracting.

Even if it had been a bruise: toddlers get bruises and you can see from the earlier post he was playing with a bunch of cousins. It is a pack and play type bed- so he may not even be at home with Davey. Kids get bumped and scraped, especially at that age- it means they are not locked in a cage all day.

Also---Davey may do a ton of telegraphing all kinds of stuff - but he is clever enough to cover his tracks---he would not put an abuse pic up in the first place.



rosy said...

The 2 red dots at the hairline might have come from the stitching on the baseball lying next to his face.

HISG said...

snap,

There is a bruise. I am making nothing up. You people dont really believe he killed Amanda or you would be extremely concerned for Weston's well-being. I did not make up physical abuse...the falling down the stairs thing was posted by another poster here...I just repeated it.
You people are so blind. Look harder you will see a bruise. I am so sick of hearing about Alonzo bull and Davey's facebook friends. He wasnt friends with any of the thugs. OK.?!
Why was Amanda's best friend Ashley tickled pink when she was hooked up to a ventilator? Why do she and her hubby live with Davey and why is she now raising Amanda's son?

"When a woman strikes at another woman's heart, she seldom misses." --Valmont in "Dangerous Liasons"

ASHLEY IS THE KEY TO SOLVING THE CRIME.

rosy said...

HSIG
eagerly awaiting your solution

snap said...

Troll

snap said...

Ps

Troll: I had an economics teacher once that referred to our class as "you people".

Message sent. Message received.

The ultimate in distancing language of the superiority kind. That is what I learned from that polyester suit.

Concerned said...

Amen, snap.

ima.grandma said...
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rosy said...

ima.grandma -

"Mark A. Driscoll is an American evangelical Christian pastor, author, and the former pastor of Mars Hill Church, a megachurch in Seattle, Washington. He resigned on October 14, 2014."

Driscoll is a notorious figure in the new Evangelical circles. He flamed out big time. You'll find some of his videos on the Tube.

'In 2011, Preaching magazine named him one of the 25 most influential [English-speaking] pastors of the past 25 years. His influence is polarizing; he is described in a profile by Salon as being the center of a cult of personality, and using controversy to increase his visibility. The New York Times Magazine called him "one of the most admired—and reviled—figures among evangelicals nationwide." Controversy often surrounded his complementarian view of gender roles, Calvinist theology, perceived misogyny, plagiarism accusations, and culture of fear that allegedly supported his ministerial authority..." Wikipedia entry.

HISG said...

rosy,

In the video, Ashley says, while holding back laughter, "Amanda wouldn't want this to be the end (big smile)" as Amanda lay full of bullets hooked up to a ventilator.

There is a clue there.

Amanda wanted something to end, something to do with Davey's relationship with Ashley and Derek.

My gut instinct tells me that Davey was and is involved in a threesome-type relationship with the couple. More and more I am getting from the language that they got rid of her because she was considered interference to their threesomes (and probably drug use). Amanda wanted it to end. She wanted their horrible behavior to end, but Ashley was not having it. Ashley wanted Amanda out of the picture.

HISG said...

In Davey's letter to Weston called "Let me Tell YOu Abuot your Mommy", do you know what caught my attention?

When he writes "Your Mommy was absolutely perfect"...there is something of a tone of mockery there.

Davey, Ashley and Derek despised her because of her morality, her purity. In other words, she was a big stick in the mud in their eyes. But it became vicious, evil in fact, how they would come to view her, and the end she would meet.

ima.grandma said...
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HISG said...

"Your mommy was completely perfect. She was perfect for me and perfect for you. There isn’t another like her. I know today doesn’t seem as difficult for you as each successive Mother’s Day is going to seem, but I want you to know The Lord isn’t going to let you go without a plethora of “mommies” in your life. There are many women that love you and loved your mommy. They’re going to tell you all about her as you get older. And one day we’ll get to see mommy again. We’ll get to play with her in the park again and soak up the heavenly sunshine. And on that day you’ll get to give her a big hug and kiss and wish her Happy Mother’s Day."

"There are many women that love you and loved your mommy."

Really? Like who? Ashley?

rosy said...

HIS -

can you find the photo of the 4 of them on a trip to Chicago? OK, Nov 9 2013 (130w)

Chicago weekends never fail. Good times with fab friends!

Do you see anything there?
https://www.instagram.com/p/gghdGIr6Qj/?taken-by=amandagblackburn

Hey Jude said...

HSIG. Shades of ABB.

What Snap said.

Plus -I opened the image in Photoshop and enlarged it - I think what you can see is either a shadow or slightly darker skin below the line of a recent haircut - the skin is very light where the hair has been trimmed away. Enough time wasting, HSIG.

___

I'm feeling a bit mortified now, Snap, on the subject of 'you people'. I once (just the once) stayed at a convent for a couple of days retreat. The Mother asked if there was anyone in particular I wanted to pray for, and who needed prayer - I said 'Yes - you lot.' of her and all the sisters. She was a little taken aback, and so was I.

It was a long time ago. I thought they were wasting their potential, and their buildings, which they were.

___

I had an economics teacher who used to lob books and board rubbers across the classroom and slam folders down onto his desk when'You ignorant little *****!' wouldn't pay attention - he was brilliant. There was no questioning his superiority. It was all corduroy and leather elbow patches in my day.

It's maybe a bit superior to call someone a polyester suit?


HISG said...

Hey Jude,

It is OK, you neednt defend me, although I do appreciate it. I will recover from whatever barbs are thrown at me as I continue to seek answers into the horrendous murder of this innocent woman who was essentially a lamb thrown to the lions.

HISG said...

Rosy I see intimate body language between Ashley and Davey in the photograph.
I see more of a platonic brother-sister type body language between Davey and Amanda.
Derek appears aloof like he would be down for whatever was suggested by the more dominant Ashley.

Anonymous said...

Comparing you to ABB is not "defending" you.

HISG (?) said...

I did get a kick out of Rosy addressing me as
HIS- as this new theory would mean throwing another one of my theories about Davey right out the window.
This is how crimes get solved. Flexibility of thought.

Bobcat said...

HISG,

On facebook, Ashley lists her education as "Master's Commission Kansas City"

It sounds like a voluntary cult. It's not accredited and students are not allowed to date or work.

Hey Jude said...

Lol - you can read it that way if you like, HISG. 'What Snap said' means I second what Snap said at 5.43. :)

HISG said...

I looked through Amanda's instagram, and I am curious: Why was Amanda buying shoes for her and Weston at garage sales? This is not sanitary...was Davey forcing her to look threw dirty boxes of old shoes at garage sales to buy 50 cent pairs of shoes for herself and Weston while he splurged on his own footwear? Was he giving her only a very small "allowance".

PS. Hey Jude, don't worry, I've already forgiven you for joining with Snap on his polyester suit tirade. Let's get back to business! You seem like a person with high intelligence and a gift of imagination...please don't waste it pointing out my obvious character flaws. Thanks and good day!

HISG said...

Bobcat,

Thank you for that information. That is very strange and I will check it out.

Violet said...

HISG, I completely agree with your assessment of Ashley. She does in fact have "duper's delight" eyes as they were called. I see the deviousness coming from them, and watching her talk and her eyes dancing around, all bright and darting, sent chills down my spine.

I lived with a sociopath and pathological liar, and I recognize those eyes. Maybe others aren't picking up on it because they are inexperienced with it and unable to see it.

Her husband strikes me as being more "along for the ride", and I think Ashley wears the pants in their relationship. She was beaming about Amanda being shot. I feel more like she and Davey had something going on, and the husband is more of a cuckhold.

I, too, feel Ashley is the key to solving this case..something has definitely went on involving her. She is EVIL and vile.

Anonymous said...

Violet is obviously HISG.

Anonymous said...

Ashley and Derek
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203683061744099&set=pb.1443930430.-2207520000.1463016532.&type=3&theater

Anonymous said...

"Bobcat said...
HISG,

On facebook, Ashley lists her education as "Master's Commission Kansas City"

It sounds like a voluntary cult. It's not accredited and students are not allowed to date or work.

May 11, 2016 at 9:06 PM"

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Great. Thanks for encouraging the troll.

rosy said...

HSIG -

Sorry for HIS, I was trying to fix a typo of HIGS -- whatever that reveals.

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