Tuesday, June 21, 2016

Update: Indiana School Teacher Missing Found Alive!

Krista Perdue (pictured), 42, of Tippecanoe County, Indiana, went missing from her home on Monday after falling ill the night beforeIndiana second grade teacher, 42, goes missing from her home just hours after falling ill with indigestion

Krista Perdue (pictured), 42, of Tippecanoe County, Indiana, went missing from her home on Monday after falling ill the night before
An Indiana second grade teacher who fell ill on Sunday night went missing Monday morning, according to authorities. 
Woodland Elementary School teacher Krista Perdue, 42, of Tippecanoe County, Indiana, was suffering from indigestion when she decided to sleep off the illness. 
When Krista's husband of 16 years, Sam Perdue, who works at Dayton Elementary School, went to check on her in the morning, she was no longer in the house. 


Here is a statement from the husband:  

'She was sick all day yesterday, and she stayed in bed all day yesterday
'I slept in the other room, and I got up this morning, and I kind of piddled around, and I thought I'd go check on her.
'Her purse is here. Her wallet is here. Her driver's license is here. This is her car sitting where I parked it last night,' 

It is not clear if this statement is one, or it is separated by the writer due to editing.  

It is interesting by way of example of the principle of inanimate object:

"car sitting."

When an inanimate object is given the designation of human body posture, it is an indication that the subject (speaker) is connected to it, in a 'living' way.  Here, the context shows the connection:  he parked it.  Had he not said, "where I parked it", the use of the car "sitting" would have suggested it.  

Other points of interest:

He repeats the word "yesterday" close together in the same phrases.  This makes "yesterday" important.  It could be for any reason, including the last time he saw her. 

He gave us the location of where he slept.  This is often an indication of something wrong in the relationship, as sleep is vital and when the location of sleep is mentioned, there is a reason for it. 

Some people, when sick, will sleep near a bathroom, yet it is he, not the sick person, that feels the need to tell us the location of where he slept.  

Next notice that he reports what he thought he would do.  Again, please be reminded that the quotes were separated in the article.  He doesn't use her name, but he might have, in the quote just prior.  This is very short.  In this shortness, however, there is a delay in getting to the point of finding her not where she should have been:

1.  "I slept in the other room":  we call this a "refugee from" something; indicating a need to tell us where he was sleeping, as it was not with her.  

The husband has a need to tell us not only that he did not sleep in the same room as the missing woman, but he has a need to tell us where he, himself slept.  

Sleep is vital to our health, both mental and physical.  When someone has a need to tell us the location of where they slept, they are telling us that there was a need that had to be fulfilled, vitally important to the subject, that could not be filled sleeping in bed with her. 

This could be insomnia, or he wanted to watch TV or anything that is innocuous to suspicion.  We might not consider insomnia, for example something of importance, yet to the sufferer, he could not sleep at a specific location, for whatever reason, and it is important to him that he report where he slept in comparison to where he did not sleep:  with the now missing person.  Did they argue?  

Or, was her stomach so upset that he could not sleep because she kept him up, so he offered her the comfort of staying in bed while he went elsewhere?  This, too, is possible.  

Or, it could be relevant to the investigation, though the article says police do not suspect foul play. 

2.  "I got up this morning ("this", versus "yesterday" being the day of the statement as current with the prior day being sensitive to him).  This is to separate the time from the sensitive time period of yesterday, which was unnecessarily repeated. 

3.  "And I kind of piddled around" is useless information and speaks to timing and pace, rather than simply telling us that his wife was not there. 

4.  "I thought I'd check on her" tells us intention but not action. Now it gets tricky because of the article's formatting.   

Here is the editing issue:  was there something said between this and:

'Her purse is here. Her wallet is here. Her driver's license is here. This is her car sitting where I parked it last night,' ?

and...what did he say after this?  

This is why I urge journalists to receive formal training. 

We would like to know if her purse generally contains her wallet and her driver's license or, are these three things all separate?  


Article:  
The couple and their daughter had just returned home from vacation on Saturday and everything seemed to be normal, Sam said.  

This is not a quote....but an interpretation.  Did he use "normal"?  Did he use his wife's name?  We do not know.  

He said the locks on the door made it appear as though she was still inside the house, however, the deadbolt was left unlocked.  

'The deadbolt was undone, but it looked like she had locked the door handle back when she pulled it. 
'That is the only sign. ... Her keys are here. That's why she couldn't lock the deadbolt back,' Sam said.

Update:

This from the victim's mother:

I am unable to put sentences together at this time. She is my heart, my life, and I need her back,” said Ramey.

On the Fox News Video, the husband says,

"We want her back, we want her back.  Please come home."

As to where she might be:

"“I got nothing. I am completely baffled. I have nothing I could say about that,”

As more quotes are available, this will be updated.  


Officers said there is no reason to suspect foul play. 


UPDATE:  She has been found alive!  Dazed and taken to the hospital but found alive!  
When her husband Sam Perdue (pictured) awoke the next morning, Krista was no longer in the house and he could not locate her

43 comments:

mom2many said...

Since this is an interview with a reporter, presumably after he has been questioned by police, is it appropriate to consider that he is inserting where he slept because that topic came up in his police interview? Would that be considered contamination, since we don't know whether he brought it up independently? I would expect the police to question why he didn't know she was missing immediately when he woke up. Having slept in another room partially answers that question. The further delay of "piddling around" would also contribute to why the delay in calling for help. Establishing the timeline is vital in missing person's cases, so I wonder if contamination should be considered in the media interview, and if so, how does that effect the analysis?

Nic said...

'I slept in the other room, and I got up this morning, and I kind of piddled around, and I thought I'd go check on her.

Peter said:
"And I kind of piddled around" is useless information and speaks to timing and pace,

************************

I disagree, Peter. "Piddling" is about wasting time. I'm very familiar with the term "piddling around". It's English; my mom (of English/Irish origin) used it all the time. As in "Stop piddling around." "Fiddled and farted around with" is another term used to describe an attempt to fix, with mix results.

Three "ands" and piddling around tells me that there is a lot of missing time and information.

and I kind of piddled around
"and I kind of" weakens the activity of "piddling around". Was he wasting time (piddling around)? Why would he be wasting time? I would want to know what his "piddling" entailed between when he went to bed and the next morning when he got up. Having a coffee and reading the paper is having a relaxing morning. People don't "piddle around" (waste time) in the morning unless they are waiting for a subsequent event to occur, i.e., their ride to arrive.

"I thought I'd go check on her."
I thought,he doesn't commit to the act of checking on her.
He does not say his wife's name. He does not assign a title to "her" and "her" does not have a name. Distancing.
___________

Conclusion: IMO, LE should be looking more closely at Mr. Perdue

Bobcat said...

"I honestly don't have anything to say," said Sam Perdue, speaking outside the couple's home Tuesday afternoon. "She's been missing since Sunday night and the Tippecanoe Sheriff's Department, those guys have been awesome. They've worked very, very hard. I can't thank them enough for their efforts. They've been great to work with. We just all want her back and back home."

http://www.wthr.com/story/32271758/tippecanoe-county-sheriff-investigates-disappearance-of-lafayette-school-teacher

I honestly don't have anything to say,
"honestly" is commonly used by habitually deceptive people when they want to be believed.

the Tippecanoe Sheriff's Department, those guys have been awesome. They've worked very, very hard. I can't thank them enough for their efforts. They've been great to work with.
Complimenting Law Enforcement while wife is still missing

We just all want her back and back home.
We just all (Changes from singular to plural)

We just all want her back and back home.
Does the first back indicate knowledge that she is 'gone' or dead?

Bobcat said...

The copied transcript above leaves out a number of ums and stutters, which can be heard in the video.

Nic said...

Bobcat said:
We just all want her back and back home.
Does the first back indicate knowledge that she is 'gone' or dead?


Wow. I'd say yes. Excellent catch, Bobcat.

Bobcat said...

More press, with video.
http://fox59.com/2016/06/21/search-for-missing-tippecanoe-county-teacher-continues-into-tuesday/

Nic said...

They've worked very, very hard. I can't thank them enough for their efforts. They've been great to work with.

very, very
need to persuade
each "very" weakens the level of effort he says they've achieved
there is worked hard
there is worked very hard
then there is worked very, very hard (not so very hard)
he is "thankful" for their lack of effort

great
complimenting LE for not working very hard to find his wife

work with
with is distancing

jmo

Nic said...

'I just didn't notice anything. Everything seemed OK,' Jeff said.

"I"
first person pronoun, he assigns himself to noticing

just didn't notice
"just" is in comparison to something else
what is reported in the negative is sensitive. He is not reporting what he noticed,

Everything seemed ok
seemed weakens "ok" (satisfactory)
he is not saying that everything 'was' ok (satisfactory)
________

Deception indicated. He is reporting what he didn't notice, although upon inspection everything appeared satisfactory. LE needs to go back and investigate the home. There might be something not detectible to the naked eye.

My posts are my opinion based analysis of my application of statement analysis to public statements made by Mr. Perdue.

Peter Hyatt said...

Nic,

That's not a deceptive statement.

Peter



PS: All

updated quotes.

Peter Hyatt said...

I have a post coming up in which I implore readers to go very slowly. Haste in analysis may seem exciting, but it is going to cause error. A conclusion is a powerful thing and it must be clear to us where it almost writes itself. The deeper one goes into training and experience (both are essential) the 'slower the pace' or rush to judgment.

The upcoming article is a reaction to two specific posts: the one in which I sought questions from readers, and the case of Amanda Blackburn where some of the most foolish conclusions are drawn that claim analysis but are not. Obsession with a case is easy to catch, but clarity demands stepping back. It is why I delayed the conclusion of the Blackburn case...waiting for emotions to simmer so cooler heads can obtain the information.

Anonymous said...

Krista Mitchell Perdue's mother, Donna Ramey, told the Louisville Courier-Journal that her daughter is the "perfect child" and a model kid, and now her kid has been missing for more than 24 hours. "She's the only child I gave birth to, and I just want her back."

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2016/06/21/update-teacher-still-missing-subpoenas-issued/86171286/

Mom uses the words "child" "kid" and "birth" Was Krista recently pregnant?

lynda said...

I just read about this online and then came here. I was surprised to see it being addressed already. This is a curious case. It's odd to have the assumption being made that her stomach hurt so badly that it clouded her judgement and she stumbled outside and has roamed so far that no one can find her? I don't know. The neighbors calling them "perfect" is a red flag on this site..lol

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous,

"child" and "kid" are often used to differentiate age, with "kid" often in school, or school age. There is no association with pregnancy in the context you reference.

The mother's plea was added to the article and is personal, strong and expected.

Peter

Hmmmmmminteresting said...

This is her car sitting where I parked it last night,'

Anonymous said...

Is that a pic of her husband at the bottom? Lmao. Looks like PeeWee Herman meets Silence of the Lambs.

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting that in many of these "missing" wife, girlfriend, or fiancée stories, their purses and keys are usually left behind but their cell phones are often conveniently missing (along with the woman). So we're supposed to believe that they would take their cell phone and leave everything else behind but then not answer their cell phone or make any calls?? What's the purpose of taking it then?? The obvious reason is that the person who committed the crime knows that cell phone activity can be traced and got rid of the phone, but I'm sure that draws more attention to the cell phone when LE noticed that it is the only thing missing. C'mon guys! Use your brains and stop using the same play book.

lynda said...

She has been found alive!

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2016/06/21/update-teacher-still-missing-subpoenas-issued/86171286/

lynda said...

Sorry..that link won't take you to the "found alive" story. It is running as a ticker on the Journal's site that she is alive and was found near a detention pond by her home. No other news at this point

Nic said...

Thanks Peter. I'm re-reading the sentence and applying the 'just' and 'what's reported in the negative' principals, and "seemed" is not definitive. To me he really comes across as being deceptive; however, this is an edited article and the full interview isn't available so I'm analyzing out of context? I'll look at it again another time; hopefully with more quotes.

Nic said...

Here you go,
http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2016/06/21/update-teacher-still-missing-subpoenas-issued/86171286/

Hors said...

Peter:

More sample.

http://wishtv.com/2016/06/21/search-continues-for-missing-lafayette-teacher/

umaybright said...

The husband's statement to her being found alive should be interesting.

Nic said...

When she was first located, she was disoriented; she was unable to communicate. She had to be roused to get her semiconscious and be able to talk," he said.

Perdue, however, was mumbling, and no one could understand what she was trying to say, Richard said. However, she seemed to understand what her rescuers were saying to her, Richard said.

She did not appear to have suffered any physical injuries, Richard said.

Pannebaker said the rescuers quickly picked her up and got her en route to a hospital.

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2016/06/21/update-teacher-still-missing-subpoenas-issued/86171286/

Peter Hyatt said...

Nic,

I think you may have attributed the wrong statement to the husband! The one with "just"...I don't think that is the husband's statement but a neighbor.

Re check. I could be wrong....

She has been found alive; what great news!

Peter

Nic said...

Peter, you're right. "Jeff" said that. I even highlighted his name and didn't even see "it" for all the times I read and re-read the sentence until you point it out! My apologies to Sam Perdue!

Yes, it is good news she was found alive and with no physical injuries. They reported temps in the 90's. I wonder if she suffered from heat exhaustion. No doubt we will hear more shortly.

I'm obviously still skimming/working too fast. I don't know if it's the advertising (static/streaming) that's distracting me from the text or the fact that I'm obviously "skimming". I'm going to have to try a different approach and cut and past the articles without advertising and photos to keep me focused.

Short of putting a period in-between each word I don't know how else to slow down and read each and every word.

Thanks for your feedback. :0)

Still dont like the looks of him said...

I still think the husband looks like Silence of the Lambs raided PeeWee Herman's closet.

Vance Holmes said...

Quotes in news reports are absolutely not reliable as transcriptions of actual statements. I know for a fact that reporters often misquote people. Editors also routinely alter quotes or place them out of order.

Bobcat said...

I'm so glad she's been found alive!

More news article quotes: http://wishtv.com/2016/06/21/search-continues-for-missing-lafayette-teacher/

Prior to the discovery, Sam Perdue broke down on his front lawn when speaking about her disappearance. It had been two days since he last saw his wife of 16 years.

“I got nothing. I am completely baffled. Completely baffled. I have nothing that I can say. It’s baffling,” said Perdue."

“It’s obviously tough okay. So I honest to God, I have nothing else I can say. If I knew anything, I would go do it,” he said.

Anonymous said...

If my husband dressed like that I'd probably feel sick to my stomach and wander far off too. Glad she's safe and back in the arms of that fashion disaster.

elf said...

It sounds like the poor woman may have suffered a stroke. I'm glad she was found. When I read the first part of the article in thought the husband sounded sort of confused. What caught me off guard was him saying that he parked her car.
In retrospect, could he have mentioned piddling around out of guilt? Like he should've checked on her sooner?

Anonymous said...

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2016/06/22/police-seeking-answers-teacher-recovers/86222508/

Anonymous said...

"He nearly dropped to the ground Tuesday after investigators found his wife."

http://wishtv.com/2016/06/22/community-students-rejoice-after-missing-teacher-found-alive/

Anonymous said...

Exclusive Interview

Husband: Medicine Disoriented Missing Teacher

http://www.kgw.com/news/nation-now/husband-medicine-disoriented-missing-teacher/253394962

Nic said...

elf, that's a good observation. I'm projecting when I say, "piddling around" has a negative connotation for me, as in my mom saying to using growing up, "Stop piddling around!" It's a reference to wasting time and to be done with [it].

I like your observation about guilt. She wasn't well, he knew it, and he took his time to check on her.

Suffering a stroke is also a good guess. Her husband reported she has a chronic digestive problem and she didn't feel well, that she stayed in bed all day. I did a quick search on signs of stroke ... It's fortunate they found her. The reported temperatures while she was missing, were blistering.

Women may have unique symptoms:

Sudden face and arm or leg pain
Sudden hiccups
Sudden nausea (feeling sick to your stomach)
Sudden tiredness
Sudden chest pain
Sudden shortness of breath (feeling like you can't get enough air)
Sudden pounding or racing heartbeat

A stroke happens fast. Most people have two or more signs.

The most common signs are:

Sudden numbness or weakness of face, arm, or leg (mainly on one side of the body)
Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes
Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, or loss of balance
Sudden confusion or trouble talking or understanding speech
Sudden bad headache with no known cause

Bobcat said...

This is a very interesting story.

Interview quotes from husband Sam Perdue (after wife Krista was found alive):
Talking about digestive issues/pain medication:

“She’s in a lot of pain when she’s like that," Sam Perdue said, explaining they've endured this before and it takes about two days for his wife to recover. "She’s dry heaving and pulling muscles and stuff.

“When you’re emotional like that, you don’t make good choices.”

“She’s a city slicker girl," he said. "I can hardly get her on a path. She can’t stand bugs or anything.”

“I wanted to thank everyone for their positive thoughts," he said. "The Tippecanoe Sheriff’s Department has just been phenomenal. They’re so awesome. I can't say enough nice things about them.”

Sheriff Quote:
"What she recalls is slipping on the bank and hitting her head," Tippecanoe County Sheriff Barry Richard said.

Bobcat said...

Sam doesn't express concern for what Krista endured during her exposure. He doesn't say Krista's name.

Anonymous said...

I call foul play: the husband looks crazy. Maybe he poisoned her.

Bingo3 said...

There is something wrong here. The husband "piddling around" sounds like Davey Blackburn "grabbing my gym bag" unnecessary extra language. And the sleeping on the sofa while she creeps out of the house into the night? Something doesn't add up. So glad this had a good outcome!

Wreyeter72 said...

OT- I think everyone will find this very interesting. A group of young adults went "hiking" in the woods, one friend turned back and is now missing. This story has quotes from one of the friends. He doesnt talk about his missing friend in past tense but what he does say makes me very worried!
http://m.newson6.com/Story.aspx?story=32297181&catId=112042

Bobcat said...

http://m.newson6.com/Story.aspx?story=32297181&catId=112042

When Michael Snelling and the rest of the group returned from hiking on the Buzzard Roost Nature Trail Tuesday, one of their friends was waiting behind in the truck, but Fagan had never returned.

"We asked him if he's seen Fagan and he goes 'no, we thought he was with you.' That's when we started hollering and everything else. He didn't show up, so we waited a couple of hours around, just to see if he would come out, probably mad at us or something. We waited, he didn't show up," Snelling said.

Snelling said, "Fagan, I know you're out there brother. Nobody is mad at you, we just want you to come home safely. Your family is here in Oklahoma, as well as your friends. We want you to come home and be safe man."

http://kfor.com/2016/06/24/man-missing-after-disappearing-during-hike-near-eastern-oklahoma-lake/

“About 20 minutes into the hike he turns and looks at us and says he’s going to turn back to the car because his ankles were hurting,” Michael Snelling, who was on the hike with Fagan, told Fox 23.

When the rest of the hikers returned to the car, Fagan was no where to be found.

“We sat there for a good 30 or 40 minutes hollering his name,” Snelling said.

Authorities say that some of the people who went hiking with Fagan have different accounts of what happened.

“Stories are conflicting, anywhere from when they got there to what they did after they left, to where they went, to who did what,” House said.

House said that during the search, dogs and deputies did not find any evidence that suggests Fagan is still in the woods.

Friends said Fagan has disappeared before and he was upset that his girlfriend recently broke up with him.

Habundia said...

http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/10/08/the-unsolved-murder-of-adrienne-salinas/

Boyfriend andtaxi driver cleared...boyfriend did seem to have motive...stating a fight occuring that night, 911 call, but not much speaking of subjects self only numberic line of that what has happend.
It was affirmed she got back home and changed clothes, who affirmed this isnt said. Witness had seen white car, to be hers drive erraticaly, was driver being seen? Was she being seen or just the car?
If she has a car why would she call a cab to pic her up to go to her boyfriend?
For me boyfriend at this point isnt cleared by me and seems a piont of interest
Will see if i can find more about this case for analiysis but now its bedtime!

Elizabeth said...

“It’s obviously tough okay. So I honest to God, I have nothing else I can say.."

Hopefully you will remember this sentence the next time a grief stricken husband or wife tries to speak out about their missing spouce.

We are not all articulate, we sometimes mumble and stumble, especially when in shock.

Had this poor woman not been found, I know how hier husband's statements would have been looked at.


Anonymous said...

I realize this is an old topic, but I was reading through some of the comments, and something came to mind...

I am from the same general area of the state of Indiana (about an hour-ish away, give or take, depending on the traffic), and I say "piddled around" all the time, especially when I am referring to just doing little things that take up time but that really aren't important enough to enumerate.

For me, piddling around in the morning after getting up would include:

Going to the bathroom
Petting/feeding the cat
Looking out the window at the neighbors
Looking out the window at nothing
Making coffee
Drinking coffee
Making a little breakfast
Eating the breakfast
Yawning
Trying to convince myself to stay out of bed
Perhaps turning on the TV
Perhaps checking email or Facebook
Perhaps taking a shower
Perhaps deciding on waiting on the shower
Perhaps checking the laundry, if there is any

And on and on. You get the idea. "Piddling around" is basically just...well, piddling around, doing non-important things, doing piddly things, and being a little drowsy and sleepy. Just a whole lot of nothing that takes up time. If someone would ask me what I do when I get up in the morning, I'd say something like, "Oh, I get up, make coffee, and just piddle around for a while."