Monday, July 18, 2016

Barak Obama Warns Police


"Black Lives Matters" terrorist group began with the lie of "hands up" and has been embraced by Barak Obama as it fits the narrative he has long espoused.  Here is a statement of his to follow for consideration. 

Beginning shortly after he was elected, he targeted a Boston police officer, rushing to judgement before knowing the facts, for "harassing" a black teacher.  In the shooting of an armed felon and child molester, Obama called for no patience or calm. 
How selective is his patience?

When the Orlando Islamic terror killer called 911 and said he was a soldier of ISIS and was obedient to the Islamic call to kill the infidel, Obama asked us to wait because "we don't know the motives yet", emphasizing "motives", plural.  The press went on to avoid the ideology of Islam, instead targeting "right wing" Christians, as well as guns, themselves.  Since 2008, he has continually demonized police and order, itself.  Even when a suspect confesses his motive, Obama knows otherwise.  

Recently sharia compliant headlines  from main stream media of  "Trucks kill people in France", met by comments such as "planes attack Pearl Harbor" and "we must outlaw trucks so only outlaws have trucks" used ridicule to make the point.  No event is beyond politicizing, including police funerals.  None of the slain officers was a "son" to Obama.  

When Obama spoke at Dallas where officers were slaughtered by Black Lives Matters, he condemned the killing while using unnecessary additional language to justify the killing.  
The statistics across America show that blacks kill blacks in numbers such that more than 98% of murders of blacks occur at the hands of blacks; not police.  Police make up .04% of the killing of blacks, with investigation after investigation showing a response to a threat justifying the shooting.  Statement Analysis of "hands up" claim showed the officer in Ferguson was truthful in his account; although Obama ordered 40 federal investigators to find otherwise. The officer was saved by not only the truth he spoke, but of the many black witnesses who testified that there was no "hands up; don't shoot" and the officer fired in self defense. 
Yesterday, he made this statement.  

"There are legitimate issues that have been raised, and there’s data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters. 
"And if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there’s a problem and there’s an issue, then that, too, is going to contribute to real solutions.  And, as I said yesterday, that is what’s going to ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer.  It is in the interest of police officers that their communities trust them and that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated."

To warn or caution police is victim blaming.  It is akin to a conviction and as foolish as blaming a rape victim's clothing.  Yet, it is even more lethal in context.  

Here is an article from the Wall Street Journal on the "data and evidence" statement:

But what if the Black Lives Matter movement is based on fiction? Not just the fictional account of the 2014 police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., but the utter misrepresentation of police shootings generally.
To judge from Black Lives Matter protesters and their media and political allies, you would think that killer cops pose the biggest threat to young black men today. But this perception, like almost everything else that many people think they know about fatal police shootings, is wrong.
The Washington Post has been gathering data on fatal police shootings over the past year and a half to correct acknowledged deficiencies in federal tallies. The emerging data should open many eyes.
For starters, fatal police shootings make up a much larger proportion of white and Hispanic homicide deaths than black homicide deaths. According to the Post database, in 2015 officers killed 662 whites and Hispanics, and 258 blacks. (The overwhelming majority of all those police-shooting victims were attacking the officer, often with a gun.) Using the 2014 homicide numbers as an approximation of 2015’s, those 662 white and Hispanic victims of police shootings would make up 12% of all white and Hispanic homicide deaths. That is three times the proportion of black deaths that result from police shootings. 
The lower proportion of black deaths due to police shootings can be attributed to the lamentable black-on-black homicide rate. There were 6,095 black homicide deaths in 2014—the most recent year for which such data are available—compared with 5,397 homicide deaths for whites and Hispanics combined. Almost all of those black homicide victims had black killers. 
Police officers—of all races—are also disproportionately endangered by black assailants. Over the past decade, according to FBI data, 40% of cop killers have been black. Officers are killed by blacks at a rate 2.5 times higher than the rate at which blacks are killed by police.
Some may find evidence of police bias in the fact that blacks make up 26% of the police-shooting victims, compared with their 13% representation in the national population. But as residents of poor black neighborhoods know too well, violent crimes are disproportionately committed by blacks. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, blacks were charged with 62% of all robberies, 57% of murders and 45% of assaults in the 75 largest U.S. counties in 2009, though they made up roughly 15% of the population there. 
Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force.
The Black Lives Matter movement claims that white officers are especially prone to shooting innocent blacks due to racial bias, but this too is a myth. A March 2015 Justice Department report on the Philadelphia Police Department found that black and Hispanic officers were much more likely than white officers to shoot blacks based on “threat misperception”—that is, the mistaken belief that a civilian is armed. 
A 2015 study by University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway, formerly acting director of the National Institute of Justice, found that, at a crime scene where gunfire is involved, black officers in the New York City Police Department were 3.3 times more likely to discharge their weapons than other officers at the scene.
The Black Lives Matter movement has been stunningly successful in changing the subject from the realities of violent crime. The world knows the name of Michael Brown but not Tyshawn Lee, a 9-year-old black child lured into an alley and killed by gang members in Chicago last fall. Tyshawn was one of dozens of black children gunned down in America last year. The Baltimore Sun reported on Jan. 1: “Blood was shed in Baltimore at an unprecedented pace in 2015, with mostly young, black men shot to death in a near-daily crush of violence.” 
Those were black lives that mattered, and it is a scandal that outrage is heaped less on the dysfunctional culture that produces so many victims than on the police officers who try to protect them.

41 comments:

John mcgowan said...

Peter

this guy does not pull his punches re blm and Obama. It's a must see!

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE CRUSHES DON LEMON OVER HATEFUL BLACK LIVES MATTER

VT

http://thepeoplessheriff.com/2016/07/18/sheriff-david-clarke-crushes-don-lemon-over-hateful-black-lives-matter/

Ang B said...

Do you think obama is creating a race war so he can impose martial law?

tania cadogan said...

off topic

EDITOR’S NOTE: Philip Klein, a private civil investigator based in Texas, has been investigating the disappearance of Idaho Falls toddler DeOrr Kunz, Jr. since last fall.

Klein released a full report on the case Saturday evening. It is posted in its entirety below.

Klein is not a police officer and cannot make arrests or conduct an official investigation of the case. Additionally, law enforcement investigators have not confirmed to EastIdahoNews.com any information or details contained in this report.
The release

We are issuing the following report to the people of Idaho whom have donated money in order to further the investigation into the disappearance of DeOrr Kunz, Jr., a three year old child. The following is our report to the public.

Background

KIC Texas was brought into the case after turning it down two times in the late summer and fall of 2015. The family had no money to hire an investigator and through family and friends applied for funding from KIC Texas.

In November of 2015 KIC Texas agreed to take the case and through fundraisers with the general public $29,201 was raised for the investigation of which $20,000 was used for investigators and equipment travel and hotels only.

Investigator hourly cost and all other costs have been donated by the Klein foundation that is funded by KIC Texas and the stockholders of KIC. DeOrr Kunz Sr. agreed to be the figurehead on the contractual side only if the public would provide the funding for the case. We have no idea what happened to the $9,201 other money given.

DeOrr Kunz was a three year old male allegedly fathered by Vernal DeOrr Kunz and mothered Jessica Mitchell Anderson of the State of Idaho.

During a camping trip on July 10, 2015, Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell Anderson reported to 911 Idaho that their son DeOrr was missing at a camp ground near Leador Idaho. Massive searches were undertaken within 5 sq miles of the site where it is alleged the child went missing. There was no trace evidence found.

Agencies Involved

The following public and private agencies are currently investigating this incident :

Lemhi County Sheriff’s Department – Lead Criminal Agency
Bonneville Sheriff’s Department – Idaho Falls, Idaho – Backing Agency
USDOJ – FBI – Backing Agency
USDOJ – FBI – Washington DC – Missing Children’s Division / Lab
KIC Texas – Child Rescue Team 7 – Lead Civil
Mr. Frank Viltz – Private Investigator (resigned)

Currently, all active agencies are sharing information, leads, and theory based information through a hard drive set up and accessed through each department / agency. Further, communications are made between the groups on a regular basis as needed.

Previous Findings

KIC Texas came into the case in November of 2015 “cold.” KIC did not review, read, or correspond with any agency or media group until after phase one was established in the investigation. This phase included but was not limited to 1) interviews with family, friends, relatives, witnesses and site location information.

Post completion of phase one – it was determined the following theories needed to be examined:

An animal or Large animal had taken the child for food.
The forced or unforced kidnapping had occurred, up to and including a “sale of the child.”
A homicide being either by accident or intentional.

During phase two each of the investigation each theory was examined and compared to the witness statements of each of the family members. As well, an extensive timeline was created based upon the parents and those whom were at the camp ground on that day. Equally, each and every witness was re-interviewed and evidence was recovered. As well, comparison with documents, statements and evidence held by the USDOJ, Lemhi County SO and Bonneville County SO was had.

tania cadogan said...

cont.

Phase three began in March of 2016 (after the public was advised) as all of the information was gathered, placed together, timelines completed and witness interviews completed. After careful analysis of the information it was determined as follows :

There was no evidence the child was taken by an animal.
There was no evidence that a forced or unforced kidnapping had occurred.
There was evidence that a homicide had occurred by either accident or intentional means.

Further timelines and witnesses were reviewed and applied to the theory. During this period it was discovered that manipulation and outright deception was undertaken by Vernal Kunz, Jessica Mitchell Anderson and Robert “Bob” Walton. It was further found that after refusing to speak with KIC Investigators, that Issac Reinwand came forward to investigators and gave four statements.

After examination of such – the following conclusions based upon evidence at hand was made :

1. Vernal Kunz was deceptive, had failed five (5) polygraph examinations and had told six different stories. Vernal Kunz was declared a suspect in a homicide either by accident or intentional means.
2. Jessica Mitchell Anderson was deceptive, had failed four (4) polygraph examinations and had told five different stories. Jessica Anderson was declared a suspect in a homicide either by accident or intentional means.
3. Robert “Bob” Walton was deceptive, had told two stories to KIC investigators, and was inconclusive on his polygraph examinations. Bob Walton was declared a person of interest or witness in a homicide either by accident or intentional means.
4. Issac Reinwand was truthful, had told the same story to KIC investigators and Law Enforcement four times. However, some details had been left out of one of the stories. After review Reinwand was declared a person of interest as a witness in a homicide either by accident or intentional means.
The above stated findings have not changed and in fact have become stronger post phase three of this investigation. We are in full agreement with Law Enforcement’s findings.


Current Status of Investigation

The following are the current public notes regarding the status of this investigation :

Search of June 2016

In June of 2016 investigators arrived in Leador, Id, and completed a five day targeted search. Investigators flew in Tracy Sargent and her dog “Chance” who is a well known and well respected searcher from the state of Georgia. As well, the team flew in MJ “Jane” Holmes, of the state of Georgia whom is well known for her advanced interview and operations skills. During the five day operation, law enforcement agents from both Lemhi and Bonneville Counties were represented.

During the five day operation the following objectives were met :

Time distance study to fully verify or disprove Vernal Kunz’s timeline.
Time distance study to fully verify or disprove Jessica Mitchell Anderson’s timeline.
Cell Phone Impact and Signal Study of known directional “pings” in investigators possession.
Site location study to verify or disprove the testimony by witnesses to KIC and Law Enforcement.
Dog Search – to verify or disprove the testimony to KIC and Law Enforcement.
A secondary dog search in the city of Idaho Falls, ID, at two locations.

tania cadogan said...

cont.

The following were the results :

The time distance study failed to verify Vernal Kunz’s testimony in his timeline.
The time distance study failed to verify Jessica Mitchell Anderson’s testimony in her timeline.
The Cell Phone Impact study was able to determine that Vernal Kunz’s testimony was fabricated. As well it was determined that Vernal Kunz’s testimony that he drove 1.5 miles to get a cell signal was not truthful.
The site location study was successfully completed and it was determined that the testimony of Kunz, Anderson and Walton not only could not be verified, but physically according to their statements to KIC and Law Enforcement, the events as portrayed could not have occurred.
The dog study presented five areas of “hits” further explained below.
The secondary dog study was productive and is further explained below.


Tracy Sargent’ Report of Findings

Investigator Sargent reports the “Chance” whom is a trained cadaver dog hit five different unknown targets. Chance is trained on human decomposition and human blood pathogen decomposition.

The following are the hits (limited) :

1. “Diaper Tree Area” – This is the area to which it was testified that “a diaper” was hung in the tree in the campground.
2. 139 Feet East of the Cattle Guard in the camp ground – in a loose ground area.
3. 10 Feet Due East of camp site.
4. 2.24 miles due Northeast of the 15 mp stake, in the ravine near 221 southeast fence.
5. Camp site ground .75 miles due East of the camp ground.

Area 1 : There was no evidence obtained.
Area 2 : Excavation was undertaken by LE and KIC – this area needs to be further exhumed and was turned over to Law Enforcement for further investigation by their team.
Area 3 : This area was excavated by hand – and found that a previous animal had been buried at this location. During the burial the subject who did the burial cut his hand and bled into a towel wrapped around the animal.
Area 4 : Investigators have turned this area over to law enforcement.
Area 5 : Investigators believe this site may have been a “holding site” for some type of human body.

There was no other evidence found.

Secondary Search Sites

Area 1 : The Clegg Residence in Idaho Falls, ID, was searched with permission. The house, trailers, camping equipment and other equipment (other than a shovel) was cleared. It is important to note that Trina Clegg has not been named a suspect and investigators have no evidence to suggest such. We are unclear if she has any information – however – she testifies she has no information. Her 2nd polygraph is pending with the USDOJ FBI.

Area 2 : Investigators searched by permission in the 900 block of Ada, Idaho Falls, Id, which is the former residence of Vernal Kunz and Jessica Mitchell. Both had been evicted for not paying rent and had left in the apartment furniture and clothing. In such, the landlord had cleaned out the apartment and move all of the articles to near the dumpster for removal as the property had been declared “abandoned” by the landlord. Investigators were given permission to search the abandoned waste by the landlord. During the search we will report investigators found the following :

1. Four matchbox cars described previously by the parents as “missing and they did not know where they were.”
2. A camo child’s jacket similar to being described by both parents as being worn on the day of the event and suggested to be missing with the child.
3. A credit card used by a family friend with seemingly purchases of items unknown to investigators in testimony.
4. An insurance tracking device box and instruction package.

All evidence was turned over to Lemhi County SO for further testing with the USDOJ – FBI.

tania cadogan said...

Off topic.

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WBTW) – The Horry County Coroner says a 6-week-old baby boy died from drowning in a pond near Tanger Outlets Saturday evening.

Coroner Michelle McSpadden says King Khalil Jair Alexander was recovered from the Tanger Outlet pond off Highway 501.

The child was from Chapel Hill, NC.

The Horry County Police Department is investigating.

News13’s will bring you updates once they become available.

http://wbtw.com/2016/07/17/6-week-old-drowns-in-pond-off-highway-501/

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I wonder how this death will be 'explained away'?

lynda said...

I am so sick of our leaders doing NOTHING to stop all this violence and/or terrorism. What more has to happen? I'm sick of all these idiots thinking their tweets, memes, FB profile pics, candle light vigils, etc. actually does anything. IT DOESN'T. We sit passively by and and shake our heads and say, "can't everyone just get along?" Love and tolerance will win out.
Are they serious??
I'm all for prayer, but it's not going to change things now. We as a people have to start screaming at our leaders to DO SOMETHING. Isis doesn't give a shit about our tweets! They laugh as they mow us down. This BLM movement needs to be SHUT DOWN.
We continually hear "they were known to police", if they are KNOWN, go find them! Find out if they are going to be a problem and if they are..DEPORT THEM.
The interview that Don Lemon that idiot had with the sheriff is such a good example of how MSM is minimizing what it happening and coming down on the side of the terrorists, because right now, BLM group as far as I'm concerned is a terrorist group. That sheriff looked like he was about to punch Lemon in the throat which would have been delightful to shut up that smarmy mouthed, violence inciting, hate building Lemon. Ugh.

Sarah Highcove said...

Tania thank you for posting about Deorr, I had not seen the latest until today. I've missed quite a bit, I had no idea Jessica remarried already. The fact that Jessica is remarried already is absolutely shocking to me. I know that it is possible to be in denial and to use life changes as a coping mechanism, but I also recall that she has two other children that are in full custody of their father and not her. Now she is remarried again after her third child went missing and less than a year after the fact. This seems to be someone with an extremely shaky foundation in life. I really appreciate that the private investigation firm has followed up with a report and is cooperating with the police and the FBI.

Peter Hyatt said...

Lynda,

they have done worse than nothing.

They have caused the deaths of thousands of our soldiers and tens of thousands of the deaths of Middle Eastern Christians.

They have empowered Iran with billions of dollars and now we learn that George Bush and Bill Clinton were guilty in covering for Saudi Arabia, with similar motivations.

Saudia Arabia donated millions of dollars to the Clinton machine, for example, and we do not know what businesses dealing with oil were behind Bush's weak abdication of leadership.

On 9/11, he should have asked Congress for a declaration of war against Saudi Arabia.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Sorry, Ringo,

when you wrote that unarmed blacks were killed by police but under reporting meant much more, you lost the privilege of posting here.

Under reporting?

I give you a "B +" for trying to pass that lie off on us. It was nervy enough of you to warrant a passing grade.

Peter

Ms. Lynch said...

More Muslims and less guns with love for terrorists will make america safe again!

Jon The Layman said...

You're a good man Peter. Keep up the good work because we all, as moral human beings, need to keep speaking out against these atrocities against mankind.

As someone outside of the US, it really does appear that Obama is a virtual Muslim double agent doing his best to cause civil unrest within America, which basically serves as a diversion away from dealing with what should be dealt with - ie ISIS/Islamic terrorism/Islam itself.

And it doesn't take a statement analysis genius to see that he's so duplicitous and two-faced depending on who the victims/attackers are. On one hand he'll say "these people don't represent anyone" when it comes to the BLM ideology, but when it comes to police officers it somehow represents (against all the statistics) a systemic problem amongst the police force.

Anon said...

Off Topic: From Daily Mail, the truck terrorist was gay and had a 73-yr old male lover. Is there a link between homosexuality and terrorism? I think it's fair to ask that question at this point.

sidewalk super said...


I agree with Ang B and Jon The Layman.

Peter Hyatt said...

There is a link between terrorists and sexual perversion with inordinate amount of findings of pornography, including child pornography.

The excuse of 'integrating with the west' in order to commit terror does not hold up; the porn begins early.

I will post analysis on this in the future; why so many are given to sexual perversion along with their hatred of women.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Peter,
I look forward to reading your article. It seems so imperative that people wake up to whatever is desensitizing these terrorists to the point where they have absolutely no human compassion and kill even children brutally and without an oumce of remorse. Sexual perversion has to be a factor as you say. These terrorists' minds are very sick.

Anonymous said...

Re: DeOrr Kuntz, what do you guys think happened? I do not believe he was ever at the campground. I am leaning away from thinking homicide...without going into much analysis, what do you guys think about the fact parents never referred to DeOrr in past tense, even spoke of a sighting (which I believe they fabricated although may contain leakage that another individual was involved--a man) where they say that DeOrr was filthy and "just bawling"...so they spoke of DeOrr active and in present tense? I believe parents are lying and did something with DeOrr but I am hoping and praying it was not homicide.

Anonymous said...

Re: DeOrr

Check out this short clip where parents are being asked if they killed their son.

At 2:35, Vernal says "He was left with a trusted adult and when I come back he was gone."

This is a strong statement. Again, this IMO leans towards DeOrr was possibly sold to someone..."left with a "trusted adult".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Chj5UGdX2Y

Nic said...

I believe he was killed.

I flip-flop between whether he was even at the camp or not. At first I thought he was there and that he drowned accidentally (so why not call 911?) or maybe he got into a baggie of drugs thinking they were candy (why they wouldn't call 911; they were afraid of the repercussion of being in possession of illegal drugs). Then I thought he wasn't even there because of how Issac Reinwand was reporting the time up to jr.'s disappearance.

I really believed that IR *assumed* jr. was there because he reports hearing sr. getting after jr. about the fire from his tent. So he heard the (one-way?) discussion from his sleeping bag, but didn't see them per se. This needs to be clarified because from what IR said, he got up to use the "comfort station" and then went back to "bed" until noon. (He had his own tent.) So anything heard was from his tent. Or, IR leading Mitchell to a fishing spot and sr and jr lagging behind them, so not really seeing jr, just assuming they were there lagging behind. Even leaving the city, he was traveling with GGP so the young family was in another vehicle and when they arrived to their camp site, sr. said there was hardly any light left in the sky and that they kept their distance. So again, parallel interaction, but no reported, "real" face-to-face. Unless a deceased jr. was in a car seat in the back "asleep" and that's why IR thought he saw jr. (when they finally were able to get him at his place). KIC report that .75 miles due East of the camp ground could possibly have been a holding site. Maybe they quickly stopped on the way in to drop jr. off for the night. The next day sr. went back to see if he was still there (was never carried off by animals as hoped?)

And let's not dismiss the fact that the party was very persistent about making sure IR, a stranger to Mitchell, sr and jr, didn't miss his ride/opportunity to fish that weekend. Their lawyer is trying to paint him with the "stranger danger" brush.

However, in the last interview video I watched (that John linked?) Issac Reinwand was adamant and clear he saw jr. at the campground. The interviewer was very clear in his questioning of him about this (did he see jr). So, I have to go with what he said he saw until such time it can be proven what he actually thought he saw was an illusion.

The parents behaviour is really unexpected. What they've done is more than move on, it is a revolution -- a complete rotation away from what once was. And so is GGP's behaviour. He could drag his oxygen tanks over rocks and through brush, etc., to show IR where to fish, but asked IR lead Mitchell and sr. and jr to the spots for him, leaving the "I thought he was with you," scenario to happen.

The whole thing is fishy and smells of "Denmark".

What I post is my opinion based on public reports by LE and private investigators, and statements made by Issac Reinwand, Mitchell and DeOrr sr.

Nic said...

In the People magazine interview, DeOrr senior talked about driving between states and hoping to see jr. some day. For all anyone knows, maybe jr. is somewhere between Idaho and Vegas. I wonder if sr. drives the same truck and if a cadaver dog was ever used to 'investigate' his rig.

jmo

Nic said...

So, I have to go with what he said he saw until such time it can be proven what he actually thought he saw was **not** an illusion.

Elizabeth Norway said...

I really hope USA choose the right president this time. The threat of islam and its insane followers is the only thing of importance now. Everything else have to take the back seat.

DKG said...

What I keyed in on right away in Obama's statement was the "data and evidence" phrase. I've seen both sides of this issue oversimplify data, so-called lying with statistics. But the recent Harvard analysis of the data shows that blacks are not more likely to be shot by police, and that whites are more likely to be shot accounting for all the variables like population and number of encounters. It did find that blacks are more likely to experience force, although that in itself does not necessarily point to racial bias. Still the Black Lives Matter narrative that has gone unchallenged by a swath of individuals is that blacks are specifically at risk of being shot by police, and essentially all the data in context is showing that is not the case. I actually think there are some questionable practices regarding use of deadly force, but people, either ignorantly or disingenuously, are manufacturing this into a racial issue, and the one certainty in that scenario is that it makes it more emotional and less rational for a lot of people.

Nic said...

The November election can't come fast enough.

It's summer. Aren't the golf courses calling Obama?

Nic said...

One thing about the DeOrr "timeline" I forgot to include is that GGP brought up whiskey for anyone wanting some.

DeOrr sr, Mitchell and jr kept their distance, so I assume that they did not drink. GGP doesn't drink "anymore". IR said he stayed up late and does admit to drinking but didn't say how much. I would be interested to know what kind of self-control he has and if maybe he imbibed a little too much making him very tired the next day/nursing a bit of a hangover; hence why he didn't get up until around noon. GGP and IR have known each other for appx 5 years. Do you think GGP might know what IR loves best?

And I do find it peculiar that a man with an oxygen tank would have a fire going. My mom's friend was on oxygen and she would only allow battery operated tea lights. No flame! My mother-in-law is presently in the hospital on oxygen and they won't even use a petroleum based product on her lips, i.e., vaseline, for fear of combustion (and then there is the inspiration of the petroleum product into her lungs which she would not be able to "absorb"/process.) So is GGP really on oxygen or is it tanks of air? I'm serious. Has anyone check on this? Where does he get his tanks filled? My mom's friend had to carry tanks (plural) with him when he went places and he had to time his time away from his ability to get more. He was always looking at his watch. How many tanks did GGP pack into the campsite? LE need to ask him.

DKG said...

Lynda: "I'm sick of all these idiots thinking their tweets, memes, FB profile pics, candle light vigils, etc. actually does anything. IT DOESN'T."

Amen. It's called virtue-signaling. People do it to show how good and decent they are, but it's actually shallow, self-interested and attention-seeking behavior. Instead of writing some sort of substantive commentary or doing some actual activism, people look for a pat on the back for re-posting crap like this. I can exclude candlelight vigils from this because a lot of people feel that organized prayer can be powerful, not sure how I feel about that personally but at least it's a little more active than hashtagging or using an honorary filter. Disgusting.

DKG said...

@Nic, you've raised some interesting points. I didn't realize GGP brought whiskey. That's concerning to me, didn't he and IR know each other from AA? Sounds to me like IR was probably hungover if he slept til noon, especially likely if he had been sober for some time previously.

I haven't followed this case as closely as I followed others, but I had contemplated the theory that Jr. was never alive at the campground. There were multiple campsites, correct? The whole thing is extremely "rotten" as you put it, but I feel like if the details can get stamped down the story is there to see. The discovery of the camouflage jacket in their evicted home is HUGE - some of the biggest evidence for the aforementioned theory to date. Eyewitness testimony can be wrong, but who knows with this case. It's a bit heartening to see that IR seems to be cooperating. I hope he can help LE solve this case, because I think it makes a lot of sense that Mitchell and Sr. were hoping to make him into the scapegoat!

Hey Jude said...

Claims made in comments on family Facebooks - he had more than one camo jacket, and many little toy cars, so of course those aren't the jacket or cars he had when he went missing. It would be very difficult to prove he had only one jacket and that those were the missing toys cars.

DKG said...

@Hey Jude:

I thought the same thing about the toy cars, since four were found and it wouldn't be surprising if he had more than that. The jacket was a little weirder to me, perhaps LE will be able to determine if there was actually more than one through photos or purchase receipts.

Anonymous said...

A nobel peace award, just for being elected. His election was more a repudiation of the W years. Finacial corruption bubble bursting, unnecessary war for 'Noble Cause' that was never explained. However the warring expanded, global instability accelerated.

valyriew said...

Deleted my comment. Figures

Alexandra said...

Nic, DKG, Hey Jude,

Thank you for your thought-provoking input. Last night while reviewing the case in my head, I really focused in on the sensitivity of "walking", DeOrr having trouble walking, boots, even "shoes" (remember Jessica claimed searchers thought they may have spotted a "piece of a shoe or something" from a helicopter.
My first instinct about the case was I got an impression of something very dark happening to DeOrr. It is horrifying but my first impression is that they just left him somewhere (not at campground bc I dont believe he was ever there) but somewhere in the vast wilderness surrounding it. I believe they may have carried him into the wilderness (however far I dont know) and just left him there. And this is why there is so much sensitivity around "walking"...both their "walking" and DeOrr's difficulty walking, also the fixation as far as what kind of footwear he had on.
The other dueling thought I have is that he may have been sold, and I hope and pray this theory is correct and that he is still alive, bc it does seem like there is some leakage regarding another "man" who may have been involved, possibility DeOrr still has his blankie, etc.

Trigger said...

I remember watching a news video of the Islamic mother of the Boston bombers crying out that "America killed my sons"

The fact that her sons were mass murders was not a problem, as the victims were infidels, who deserved their punishment of death in her mind.

No crying for the victims, just tears for her sons, who were sent by Allah to bomb Boston's Marathon.

Anonymous said...

You realize, don't you, that conspiracy theories abound regarding the Boston Marathon bombing?

Anonymous said...

Next phase. Duterte styled law & order. Due to decades of appeasing criminals. Reducing felonies to misdemeanor. Destroying morale of law enforcement by releasing the violent back into society. No strong moral leadership anywhere. Chicago is the Beirut of US. Activist judges playing revenge politics on the bench. Open gateways for drugs entering through southern US.

Jessica Blans said...

Nic, DKG, Hey Jude:

The toy cars were double-bagged and stuffed under couch cushions (according to investigator Klein in this video interview http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment.) So there seems to be something more suspicious than the discovery of two random toy cars. Some are saying that the jacket and cars were found when the cadaver dog alerted on them, as least according to sm posts, but I cannot see that confined in mainstream media. If so, that would mean these particular items were identified as being significant.

Jessica Blans

Anonymous said...

Chicago's demented criminal element continue shooting & murdering. No word yet if BLM protesters will shut down Mich Ave or downtown shopping to demand justice for the injured & dead in their neighborhoods. No speech yet from WSHNGTN offering assistance to those wanting to live in peace & resources needed to end the open warfare on Chicago streets.

Trigger said...

Why isn't there an outcry when blacks kill blacks since that is the greatest threat to the lives of black people?

Why doesn't the media report the truth about who is the biggest threat to black lives?

Why is our president targeting the front line of protection for citizens, our police force?

Is he wanting to show Americans how special and untouchable he is by adhering to an agenda of tyranny and lies for his own selfish interests?

We see the show of power that the Obama Administration wants us to acknowledge and validate. It smells of rotted flesh.


Hey Jude said...

Jessica - I don't know which place they mean - the home of Dennis DeOrr Kunz, the grandfather they were living with, who has since moved to Vegas with DeOrr Sr - or the home Jessica and DeOrr Sr shared before they moved in with the grandfather. If it was Jessica and DeOrr's old place, those things would have been abandoned a long time before DeOrr disappeared, as they had all been living with the grandfather for six months, maybe a year - don't recall, but it was quite some length of time according to the grandfather.

DeOrr's residence, at the time, presumably grandfather's home, was searched by FBI when DeOrr went missing - I'm wondering now if really they were all living there, or if they claimed to be so as to not have their own place searched. Surely the original searches would have brought up the cars and jacket if they were at the grandfather's home? Double-bagged is strange as hat's what forensics do with some types of evidence - were they hoping to hide some scent, or did little DeOrr maybe bag them and hide them himself if they were his special favourites, or something - IdK, probably too young to play like that - and it's not as if he had siblings at home with whom he might not want to share.

It doesn't make sense that the cars would be bagged and hidden in their old abandoned home, from which, presumably, they went to live with grandfather following their eviction - at that time DeOrr was alive and well, as supposedly they lived with grandfather for months. I'd expect the items to have been in the grandfather's place and already discovered by the FBI - yet the report is that the items were amom get belongings from Jessica and DeOrr's abandoned apartment - the grandfather lived in a small house, not an apartment complex. Maybe they will give us a timeline of where they lived and for how long - it doesn't add up.

Interview excerpt:

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

Hey Jude said...

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trustmeigetit said...

I doubt even with those facts they will care.

Like Hillary supporters. Even with solid proof of dozens of lies many say they "trust her"

It's unreal how people can see yet ignore..,