Monday, July 25, 2016

Obama On Banning Muslim Immigration

Barak Obama on halting Muslim Immigration:  
"That's not the America we want," he said. "It doesn't reflect our democratic ideals. It will make us less safe."
Obama also drew an implicit analogy between Trump's call for a ban on Muslim travel and the most "shameful" moments in American history when the government had mistreated its people, adding that then Constitution prohibited religious tests.
"If we ever abandon those values, we would not only make it a lot easier to radicalize people here and around the world, but we would have betrayed the very things we are trying to protect,"

"We are better than that."  
To date, Fiscal Year 2016, Obama has brought in 6, 276 Syrian "refugees" into the United States. 
To date, 6,243 are Muslim and 23 are Christian.
This is more than 99% Muslim and 0.003% Christian.   He intends to bring in more, reaching 10,000 by September 30th, but has now sought businesses to privately bring in many more, skirting the federal number.  These businesses often receive various government contracts. 
He says we are safer with more Muslims and less guns.  







44 comments:

Nic said...

That's not the America we want. It doesn't reflect our democratic ideals.
What is said in the negative is sensitive and important. Two negatives, make his assertion doubly sensitive.

It will make us less safe
Fear mongering. Hysterical propaganda.

Nic said...

o/t

Democrats Accuse Russia Of Hacking DNC Server To Help Donald Trump
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-24/democrats-accuse-russia-hacking-dnc-server-help-donald-trump

[snip]

"What is disturbing to us is that experts are telling us that Russians broke into the DNC, stole these emails and other experts are now saying that the Russians are now releasing these emails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump. I don't think it's coincidental that these emails were released on the eve of our convention here and that's disturbing."

Ah yes, the old "Russians are helping Donald Trump" strawman, as confirmed by "experts." The same Donald Trump who the media lambasted in November of last year that he had never actually met Vladimir Putin during a 60 Minutes episode, as he had previously claimed.

Oddly, Mook found nothing "disturbing" about the revelations that Hillary was the DNC's chosen candidate from the start, or the allegations that there was unethical collusion with the media, or that the DNC may have broken fundraising rules to boost Hillary's campaign.

....

Except... there is a problem with this "disturbing", if very amusing, tangent.

As The Hill reported, it wasn't some mysterious, Kremlin-based hacker/operator that provided the emails to Wikileaks. It was the Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 (not to be confused with the original Romanian hacker Guccifer, aka Marcel Lazar, who is currently in US custody and whose email revelations over a year ago unleashed the scandal involving Hillary's email server in the first place), well-known for previously leaked hundreds of internal DNC memos on his own website.

It is the same Guccifer 2.0 who, following allegations that he was working for Russia, conducted the following interview with Motherboard where he said the following:
....

end snip

Anonymous said...

Starting to believe that the purpose of syrian immigration in europe & us is no more than the war starters attempt to moralize their damage.

Anonymous said...

"That's not the America we want," he said. "It doesn't reflect our democratic ideals. It will make us less safe."

"If we ever abandon those values, we would not only make it a lot easier to radicalize people here and around the world, but we would have betrayed the very things we are trying to protect,"

"We are better than that."


Where's Wall"I"e?

Nic said...

What is "it"?

Who is "we"?

Which "people"?

What "very things" are "we" trying to protect?

Why say "that"? Why not say "this"?

Why doesn't Obama speak directly and "clearly" and say what he wants?

jmo

Anonymous said...

Never voting Dem again.....even michael moore is disappointed.... Its that bad. Murderers, rapists, armed assaults, walk free. Too many in prison?, all three of these crimes warrant capital punishment. Next day service!! Not 20 yrs of appeal. End Catch & Release.

Anonymous said...

Todays domestic terrorist atrack in Ft Myers Fla, Gov Rick Scott said it occurred at a 45 year low in crime.

Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/avavZKtf6-g

Terror in Germany: The Truth They Hide

Published on Jul 25, 2016
Imagine if right-wing extremist neo-nazi skinheads had spent the last 8 months carrying out the same amount of terror that Islamists are responsible for.

Focus, don't buy the farm said...

Remember Distraction is how they remove your eyes ears off and away
from what is " Truth" happening, The evil they do in front of our faces.
They no longer are covering up what they do in front of us.

This what they want, the DNC Fiasco, get all attention on Sanders, Clinton.
Forget them ! what is important is the Fool who is presently our POTUS
He is who is slithering under the radar, as long as the sheep are focused
on the theater of DNC antics. While the bread and circus is beginning
what is BHO doing? planning his winning the war on Christmas ? as he
added to his monumental speech, joking of Don't ask, don't tell, he said
his second term, it would be Raining men,......

https://youtu.be/oSIWR1pCh_U

Published on Jul 25, 2016
Obama Silent On Turkeys Coup And Suspension Of Civil Rights

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard Ft Myers council woman Terolyn Watson statements following the suburban terrorist attack last night? The most absurd statement of denial and condoning ever heard?

Kathead said...

He was telling he truth when he said it will make us less safe. He doesnt care.

Me2l said...

Because he's a politician?

Washington is overrun with politicians...and we'd be hard pressed to find a truthful, straightforward one.

Me2l said...

(That was in reply to Nic @3:18.)

Nic said...

Me2l said...
(That was in reply to Nic @3:18.)

July 26, 2016 at 4:57 AM


Yes, my initial post was rhetorical. :0)

I purposely took the quotes completely out of context to see if there was any reference, whatsoever, to "radical islam". He won't even say "muslim", because (as we all know) <-- first generation Americans are not muslim, they are "people"/American.


rob said...

First, it may not be the America 'we' want, but it is the America 'I' want.

Maybe he should move a couple of families of the poor Syrian immigrants into his new home in DC that the family will move to when they leave the White House. Plenty of room there. Him and Michele could show the rest of the country how peaceful islam is, in the same house with their 2 children. No guns or agents needed to protect the family, they would probably feel safer with these than with a couple of white agents carrying those horrible weapons.

Anonymous said...

THOSE values..those distancing
we are better than THAT..That is distancing

It will make us less safe..

We would make it a lot easier...


It doesn't reflect our DEMOCRATIC ideals.- We are a REPUBLIC

Anonymous said...

I guess Obama's values are letting everyone in and if they behead a priest at the alter during mass he's answer is "oh well, it happens"; if you haven't heard yet a priest was beheaded while conducting mass in Normandy France today by two radicals that were on their "watch list" but unbelieveably allowed to go about their business without supervision during certain hours of the day and now they've executed an 84 year old man in front of people who will be scarred the rest of their lives; of course President Hollande rushed to the site saying it was an outrage - whoopty do - all these leaders condemn, are outraged but what they hell are they doing to stop it - nothing

k - America, wake up, we've gone from occasional attacks, to monthly attacks, to weekly attacks now to daily attacks and often times multiple daily attacks around the world but the poor little migrants that Obama wants to flood our country with

Trigger said...

"that's not the America we want"

He is speaking in the future tense.

Who is "we?"

Those who would enact Sharia Law and punish any dissenters?

Anonymous said...

sorry, make that "with the poor little migrants that Obama wants to flood our country with" and is doing so right now;

I also read where bathers in Germany were threated by a group of young muslims with extermination for daring not to be covered up - were they arrested - no, they were let go to go threaten people waterskiing and partaking in activities they don't agree with

Anonymous said...

The french priest killer was KNOWN TO POLICE. Just like in US the violent have a long history of criminality. But they're walking free.

Anonymous said...

Davey Blackburn crashed the Gateway Student Conference.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4laho2

elf said...

is he speaking unilaterally for the united states or for him and his wife?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Davey Blackburn crashed the Gateway Student Conference.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4laho2

July 26, 2016 at 8:06 PM
.....

OMG, what the hell is wrong with him? From the video's description:

At 38:00 Davey Blackburn teaches 4,200 children to give "limitless forgiveness" to child molesters, not call the police. Gateway Church's Brian Cromer intentionally deceives 4,200 children, their parents, and youth leaders by hiding Davey's pre-planned appearance. Davey teaches children ages 12-18 that they must give "limitless forgiveness" to child molesters. No mention of calling the police for felony sex crimes. Skip ahead to 38:00 for Blackburn's tragically wrong instructions to child sex abuse victims.

Anonymous said...

Even for a sermon on forgiveness, it does seem odd/extreme/bizarre for the preacher to say "...it might be something small...or it might be something huge where you've experienced abuse, where you've experienced molestation, where you've experienced injustice in your life." (starts at 39:00)

Anonymous said...

...especially considering that he's speaking to a crowd of young people.

John mcgowan said...

Update on a previous OT:

Missing mum Karen Ristevski police probe steps up amid ‘silence’

DETECTIVES investigating the disappearance of Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski have been met with a “sudden wall of silence” from a crucial person of interest in the case.

Police officers will flood the local area on Wednesday in a push to make a breakthrough in unravelling the mystery.

It comes as a neighbour of the Ristevski family claims Mrs Ristevski’s husband Borce asked him on the day of his wife’s disappearance if he had any CCTV cameras at his house.

Read More:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/missing-mum-karen-ristevski-police-probe-steps-up-amid-silence/news-story/75593296d46b6773914f984e303f7c84

.........................

OT:

Mom: Missing Buckeye boy 'sweet' and 'mischievous'

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/southwest-valley/2016/07/22/southwest-valley-jesse-wilson-mom-missing-buckeye-boy-sweet-and-mischevious/87463160/

Listen to call mom of missing Buckeye boy made to police

Wilson, 10, went missing July 18 when his mother called the non-emergency police department phone number at 1:30 a.m., officials said.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/clip/12611188/listen-to-call-mom-of-missing-buckeye-boy-made-to-police

Raw video: Mother of missing boy makes tearful statement

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/clip/12608911/2016/07/21/raw-video-mother-of-missing-boy-makes-tearful-statement

Nic said...

"That's not the America we want," he said. "It doesn't reflect our democratic ideals.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289059-wasserman-schultz-booed-off-stage-in-philadelphia

"We know the voices in this room that are standing up and being disruptive, that’s not the Florida we know. The Florida we know is united, the Florida we know will continue to create jobs,” she said.

____________

It is evident the party line/strategy when trolling for votes, is to employ an "effective parenting" technique by correcting a perceived "behavioural problem" and coaching the voter forward.

I find it interesting how many "voter children" respond positively to this.

I find their strategy offensive and a personal affront.

Anonymous said...

Published on Jul 26, 2016

around 5:20 Bernie's Wife approaches, her words caught, hot mic
this exchange adding to the complicity of Sanders (his to Clinton machine), he doesn't acknowledge his wife's pleading - which is to tell the people the truth, nope

https://youtu.be/XNE_cjSFCXU

Most of us knew this already, but now here's proof. Is Bernie going down fighting for his political beliefs like a real presidential candidate would? Is he even being remotely honest with his supporters at this point? Nope. He's keeping his mouth shut and staying on script for Hillary — who everyone knows will be the worst kind of tyrannical dictator — saying, "I'm proud to stand with her".

Live Philly streets yesterday said...

Two live streams Downtown Philly yesterday

Mainstream Media is not discussing DNC Leaks
Mainstream Media isn't showing America's reaction in real time
Mainstream Media is yet portraying Hillary as America's First Female
President, vomit, illegally yes the nom, our president, we do or do not have a say?
Two videos

The American people are pissed footage downtown Philly
https://youtu.be/eOOFnEJWK-M

People on the street are not happy with Geraldo entering their
Protest - they verbal bitter anger with him and Fox News, people of mixed
groups including BLM, no longer supporting Hillary

-
One Hillary supporter, he shares good info https://youtu.be/rTo3UzjNazA

He isn't supporting her any longer, he provides insider information
that is once again Hillary is a psychopath: pathological liar as
PH has covered here. Why is she untouchable?

Nic said...

@Anonymous at 9:16am

Thank you for sharing! Very interesting!!

Nic said...

@Live Philly Streets

I really enjoyed " Democrats Will Be Campaigning Against Hillary Clinton"

Good info indeed. From the looks of it, your election is going to be a blood bath.

CJ said...

OT: Davey Blackburn at Gateway Student Conference

The context for DB's remarks are Brian Comer's presentation which preceeded Davey's:

…for some of you here, maybe you’ve been abused. Maybe you’ve been abused physically, maybe you’ve been abused verbally, maybe, for some of you, you’ve been abused, sexually.

... And so here’s what you need to know: because of what Jesus did on the cross, you have been completely, totally and fully forgiven. The past, present and future, all the mistakes that you’ve made, have already been forgiven, every single one. And in Jesus’ ultimate moment he displayed what God is ultimately like: a God of limitless forgiveness.

... And so when you truly understand, I’m talking about when you, at the very core of who you are, when you truly, when you really understand, what Jesus did for you on the cross, it changes everything. Because you’ll never have to forgive anybody on this planet more than He has already forgiven you. You’ll never —I don’t care how bad you’ve been hurt—you will NEVER have to forgive somebody as much as you’ve already been forgiven.

...So that’s step one: experience limitless forgiveness. Here’s step two: extend limitless forgiveness. Because once you experience limitless forgiveness then only then can you have the capacity to even extend limitless forgiveness.

…I don’t know your story. I don’t know what you’ve had to walk through. I definitely want to agree with you that it’s not that easy. But here’s what I know. Forgiveness is not always easy, but it is, but it is always right.

This past November, um, I was able to meet somebody that is now a great friend, um this is such a God relationship. And, um, um, I’m so thankful for this friend, and nobody has taught me more about forgiveness than him over the last eight months.

**********
IMO, the emotional manipulation in this presentation constitutes a special kind of abuse.

Anonymous said...

makes me wonder if he himself is necessary of forgiveness for molesting someone or a lot of someones? and to tell victims "you have been completely, totally and fully forgiven" almost implying they bear responsibility and have to be forgiven for what happened to them; I'd like to know who his great friend he met in November was - this man is totally messed up and needs to be driven out of the Christian community

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:07: Forgiveness is a struggle for sexual abuse victims, and by forgiveness I mean SELF-forgiveness. It can be a life-long struggle.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if DB was sexually abused in his childhood, by a man.

Anonymous said...


I find the appearance of the attorney general interesting,
with her layers of gold and her amazed/trapped/astonished
expression. Like her candidate and maybe future employer, she
speaks like a robot.
It is a curious effect bho has on his necessary underlings.

Anonymous said...

@5:48,

He probably was...by some homo...not saying all homos are perverts but some are, and quite frankly I can tell which ones are "OK" and seem like good, upstanding people, a person I would trust, and which are not, and I have to say my "do not trust them they seem like a pervert" radar goes off with most of them (NOT ALL). This is not politically correct to say, and again, NOT ALL of them are like that, but some are, and it really leans towards the majority of them (meaning more than 50%).

I had wondered about Davey's reference to a "pregnant church" and wondered aloud on here whether it might indicate leakage of some kind of sexual abuse going on in the church. It certainly is not a reference I have heard before.

Anonymous said...

And it's odd because the ones who seem like upstanding people I do really like, but there are some gays who give off a very perverted vibe IMO...not because they're gay...I don't really have a problem with that in and of itself, and there are some that I actually think are great people, but I would say about 50 % do seem perverted and like they are looking for men who are young and I think it's disgusting and very creepy, and I don't trust what else they may be capable of.

BOSTON LADY said...

John Kerry stated that air conditioning is more dangerous than ISIS.

Stupidity and ignorance. The 2 evil murdering ISIS men walked into a Catholic mass and slit the throat of an innocent 87 year old priest and then used nuns as human shields as they tried to escape. Has air conditioning ever caused this???

Stupidity and ignorance. Obama's administration with Obama at the top.

lynda said...

Raw video: Mother of missing boy makes tearful statement

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/clip/12608911/2016/07/21/raw-video-mother-of-missing-boy-makes-tearful-statement


That was the weirdest 911 call I have ever heard. Very calm tho not calm enough where she um..um...ummmmd her way to the fact that he was 10. Or that she gave the dispatch the wrong address, or she said numerous times that "he's done this before".

The interview itself...fake crying. NOT ONE TEAR

Anonymous said...

DB's appearance, as well as those of the other speakers at the youth conference (they are all clones), makes me want to puke. I feel sorry for the 4200 kids trapped in that auditorium.

Nic said...

for some of you here, maybe you’ve been abused. Maybe you’ve been abused physically, maybe you’ve been abused verbally, maybe, for some of you, you’ve been abused, sexually.

... And so here’s what you need to know: because of what Jesus did on the cross, you have been completely, totally and fully forgiven. The past, present and future, all the mistakes that you’ve made, have already been forgiven, every single one. And in Jesus’ ultimate moment he displayed what God is ultimately like: a God of limitless forgiveness.

... And so when you truly understand, I’m talking about when you, at the very core of who you are, when you truly, when you really understand, what Jesus did for you on the cross, it changes everything. Because you’ll never have to forgive anybody on this planet more than He has already forgiven you. You’ll never —I don’t care how bad you’ve been hurt—you will NEVER have to forgive somebody as much as you’ve already been forgiven.

______________

Whoa. Given the target audience (youth,) DB makes rape/molestation sound like a "it takes two" scenario.

There is a clear, definitive line between (legal) consent and rape/molestation. IMO, if anyone ever needed an example of circling the wagons (publicly "defending" the sinister, wrong-doer) and "blaming" the victim, here you go.

@Anonymous 12:30am, I linked to the video you posted. Has anyone else noticed that DB has changed focus from "Amanda's story" to "Davey's story"?


Anonymous said...

In November wasnt the Governor at the funeral service? Are they friends?

trustmeigetit said...

The more I learn about Islam, the more I am convinced Obama is Muslim.

So much about it is about domination and converting. And deceiving to advance Islam is cceptable.

They don't have to acheive this in their lifetime, but they are to help it continue to grow.

And if you think Mohammad started with really no believers, and now has millions..it's working.



The main thing I still can't get past is why people ever respected it as a religion.

They are believing the Quran is Gods words told thru their Prophet Mohammed...

If he spoke to God, then god believes sex with children is acceptable.

How anyone can get past that one point is beyond me and it is only the tip of the iceberg.

There is a book out called the People vs Mohammad. It's banned in many Muslim nations but it is calling Mohammad a liar. I see why it is banned because they don't want people to be educated but do as they are told.

This video is a former Muslim man who says now he knows the truth. That this book changed him.... That they have all been brainwashed.....

https://youtu.be/oL7tYyBSzTo