Friday, November 25, 2016

Sherri Papinni Found Alive






 34-year-old mother of two, Sherri Papini has been found safe three weeks after she went missing while jogging in northern California, the Shasta County Sheriff's Department said Thursday.

Sherri Papini was found in Yolo County, California, about 140 miles from the Mountain Gate trail where she was last seen.

Sheriff Tom Bosenko said Papini was spotted on the side of a road early Thursday by a driver.

"She is safe, in stable condition and receiving medical clearance at an undisclosed hospital. She has been reunited with her husband."

Papini told authorities she had been held and had freed herself from restraints, Bosenko said.

Authorities are now looking for two women in a dark SUV in connection with the case, the sheriff added. They reportedly are armed. There is no known motive in the case, authorities said Thursday.

An iPhone, a pair of earbuds and a few strands of what was believed to be her hair were the only leads discovered in the days after Papini went missing November 2. They were found on a jogging path not far from the Papinis home.

Neighbors told authorities Papini was last seen in the mid- to late-morning or early afternoon of November 2, Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said after her disappearance. She was wearing a pink jogging top.

Later that day, her husband, Keith, arrived home and it was unusually quiet, he said 

"On normal days, I would open the door and my family comes, runs and gives me a hug," he told the station.

Here he is telling us what happens on normal days; he is not attempting to portray this day as "normal."  

Papini was not home. Nor were the couple's two children -- ages 2 and 4. Her husband told the station that he called their day care center and learned the children hadn't been picked up.

Papini used an app to track down his wife's smartphone;  It was down the street from their home. "That's when I knew she had been taken or abducted, in my opinion," he told the station. Papini reported his wife missing.


Sheila Koester, Sherri's older sister, said, 
"She is an incredible human being.  Best mom I've ever seen."

Keith Papini said he hadn't told the children their mother was missing.

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Anonymous said...

This is just weird. Even the way the article is worded is weird-two women-dark suv-then the part about them being armed? I kinda would like to know that part first-but ok-this is an ongoing investigation with very little information to report-Other articles are stating that even though the victim was bound she was able to flag down the driver...I cannot imagine three weeks of being a captive-I'm also very confounded on THE captors-the two women. That is a special kind of evil. I am surprised to hear that she has survived.
Jj

Bingo said...

Very Interesting! Any chance they were shopping for reality tv offers? J/K, well sort of! ha! I will be following Peter

Nic said...

Thanks, Peter.

I really enjoy your lessons. There's normal and then there's (not) normal.
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"That's when I knew she had been taken or abducted, in my opinion,"

I found this statement odd. "in my opinion" struck me as extra wording. She wasn't home when he arrived home, the kids hadn't been picked up. He found her phone abandoned at the side of the road; "knew" and "opinion" are not the same thing. Maybe stating opinion was his way of weakening what he might have thought happened to his wife/conveying "hope" that she would be found alive? No doubt during the course of the investigation LE would have had the opportunity to ask the husband more about his "opinion".



Nic said...

I received a text message from her at 10:37am that day asking me if I was coming home from lunch. I usually don’t bring my personal phone in on, on my job. So I didn’t respond to that message until 1:39pm later that day.

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"from" lunch? Is this leakage? Did he get in "from" lunch that day? Did he go out for lunch?

Is the word, "usually" considered a dependent word?

"on" my job versus "to" work. "on", i.e., the job, is negative, i.e., sleeping/drinking "on" the job. Is he not allowed to make personal phone calls while at work?

He didn't respond to "that" message. Were there other messages he did respond to?

I just read that she was not jogging at her regular time that day, she was jogging around lunch.

Is the marriage good? Has he been faithful?

I just read about the on/off award status. What the heck?

I read he passed a polygraph. It would be interesting to see what they asked him.

Nic said...

What's the difference between taken and abducted, is what I would like to know.

Nic said...

I’m coming honey. I’m trying. I’m doing everything I can, and um, I love you.

She would never in a million years, you know, not pick up our children.

Bring her home, bring her home, ju bring her home


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The above is from an interview right after Sherri P. was abducted. The interview was broken up and injected with voice over. I find them interesting, in hind sight.

The husband isn't asking [them] to find his wife, or pleads to whomever has her to let her go. He just says "bring her home". No pronoun

Anonymous said...

The police say the investigation is "far from over", and "entering a new chapeter". We still don't know for sure yet whether or not the husband was involved. If he was involved, maybe things didn't go as he had planned/hoped?

Anonymous said...

One thing not clear in stories since Sherri Papini's return home: Was she released by her captors? OR, did she escape?? Anyone?

Anonymous said...

If the captors were "two Hispanic women", that would seem fitting with a "murder for hire", to me. Pure speculation of course. Usually women don't get together and say "Let's kidnap a woman".

Anonymous said...

I have a very VERY strong feeling the cops WILL get to the bottom of this! Wow - This story just got a lot more fun to follow, knowing she is now recovered. I just hope she is now "safe" as reported. Safe means the people close to you don't want you dead.

Anonymous said...

http://www.inquisitr.com/3744249/sherri-papini-facebook-staged-hoax-did-missing-california-mom-run-away-and-fake-kidnapping-by-2-hispanic-women-with-a-gun-opinion/

Anonymous said...

Below all cut-&-pasted from above article posted by Anon at 4:18. (Just some ppl's opinions/reactions)

Randy Aven: Am I the only one who thinks that Mrs. Papini just needed a few weeks to just get away from it all? #Staged?”

“Fl Buckeye Fan: All news media needs to stop with the Papini kidnapping. It’s a farce and will be proven so. Sketchy story CNN MSNBC”

“ChocolateBeauty: Sherie Papini was not [kidnapped] she just went back home for the holidays. She knows she messed up. #sherripapini”

“Gershwin Forever: I think there’s a good chance the Sherri Papini case is a hoax.”

“Tony Gonzalez: Something just doesn’t add up with this #papini #abduction“

Habundia said...

"From lunch", is an interesting saying.

"Asking me", we already knew she was texting him, so why the extra me...."she asked if I", would be enough.
"I usually DON'T bring my PERSONAL phone"
Does he has other phone(s) too?
If it wasn't usual he brought his phone to work, was it then also not usual she asked him "if he came home 'from' lunch"? (@his 'personal') phone?
Where was he when recieving the message and read it at 1.39 pm?
"He didn't respond UNTILL 1.39pm (what was his respons? What did he do?)

Iam also curious what has been asked during polygraph, infidelity came to mind.

"He didnt tell his kids their mom was missing", what did he tell them? Their mom gone three weeks, they probably have asked questions, so what did he tell?

Interesting case.

Anonymous said...

"She was very emotional to be released and hear her husband's voice and then a few hours later to be reunited with him," Bosenko said.

Papini was treated at a hospital for unspecified injuries and released. Officials said they were not aware of a motive for the kidnapping.

Investigators have spoken with Papini but hoped to get more information soon in the effort to uncover what happened over the last three weeks, Bosenko said. It was not clear if she knew the women she said abducted her, police said.

http://www.kcra.com/article/sherri-papini-very-emotional-after-being-found-in-yolo-co/8365830

Me2l said...


AnonymousNovember 25, 2016 at 2:58 PM
The police say the investigation is "far from over", and "entering a new chapeter". We still don't know for sure yet whether or not the husband was involved. If he was involved, maybe things didn't go as he had planned/hoped?



Well, the husband passed a polygraph, upon her return, she was very glad to see her husband, and the police have said the husband was/is not a person of interest.

Doesn't seem as if he's guilty.


https://gma.yahoo.com/know-investigation-sherri-papinis-disappearance-190704051--abc-news-topstories.html

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:14 We just don't know yet.

Habundia said...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1242684825786456&id=149449895109960
Statement of het Sister (live recorder) after het return.

Habundia said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3971744/What-great-Thanksgiving-Husband-California-supermom-safe-three-weeks-disappeared-breaks-silence-share-joy-post-happy-photo-two-children.html

http://umbrellaofsuspicion.com/2016/11/is-racist-rant-a-motive-in-sherri-papini-abduction/
Interessant theory......but could she have escaped (almost unharmed) two Hispanic girls of they 'got' for racial meanings?
Or is this Just a hoax as soms are suggestief and it's all about "showing how 'whites' are being attacked by 'hispanic' woman?

Me2l said...

A hoax?

Well, if that were the case, why would she choose to make her return in such a dangerous and risky way--by the side of a CA HWY at 4:30 a.m. when it's still dark (among other risk factors)?

Coffee said...

http://umbrellaofsuspicion.com/2016/11/is-racist-rant-a-motive-in-sherri-papini-abduction/ I'm curious what you think of this?

Anonymous said...

Very good questions Me2l

mm said...

The very probably faked robbery of Kim Kardashian comes to mind, and all the attention she got with her bound wrists.


What would the motive possibly be? And they just happened to be Latinas?


Of course the case of the blonde also from California (Vallejo) Denise Huskins ,that was so farfetched but turned out to be true.


When the husband says "bring her home" in the interview, he is echoing the language of the interviewer, when taken in context.

Anonymous said...

We got bigger problems to deal with. Jill Stein wants to recount the ballots in 3 states? Khazir is already counting all the cast & mailed ballots. Stein's paying $5 million for recount, but Khazir is doing it free. He's already counted 1,723 ballots in 2 weeks & should be finished by mid June 2017. Besides what if Stein got the 5 Mil from Russia. Also, will her sraff be vetted? What if her recount is hacked & Putin is the winner? What we do then?

Unknown said...

At first glance, this case seems off. Abducted while jogging? Yes. Breaking free from 2 hispanic female kidnappers with guns after 3 weeks? No. Somethings not right here. The dad looks creepy.

Anonymous said...

Sure she broke free?

Nic said...

@Habundia

Reference "until"

Until is the kind of word that makes me think he saw her text earlier, but did not respond until later.

This is in addition to the husband responding to "that" message. What other messages were there?

Then he also refers to "on my (the) job" inferring whatever he was doing, he wasn't suppose to be do while "on the job"/working.

I'm glad to read that LE isn't done with this case.

Anonymous said...

Woah, I just read that 2003 post by "Sherri Graeff". If that is Sherri Papini-Graeff, she would have been 21. Uh oh... Things are looking pretty fishy!!!

Here it is, if you want to read it:

http://umbrellaofsuspicion.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sherri-three.jpg

Anonymous said...

Oops excuse me - It says Sherri wrote that in 2007, so she would have been 25 when she wrote it.

Anonymous said...

Article:

Woman recalls seeing missing Calif. mom waving for help on road

A California woman gave a chilling account Friday of how she encountered missing mom Sherri Papini on a darkened roadside and called police.

Alison Sutton, 43, said she was driving north on Interstate 5 near County Road 17 in unincorporated Yolo early Thursday when she glimpsed a clearly distressed blond woman in her headlights off to the right.

"When I saw her, it really startled me. She was really close to the road, like almost out in traffic," she told the Daily News.

"She had some piece of fabric in her hands and was waving it up and down. I'm thinking it was a shirt. She was waving it like a flag," she said.

"The woman I saw had long blonde hair and was not appropriately dressed for as cold as it was. She didn't have a jacket," she explained.

"She didn't look like she was hurt, but she did look scared. It was just the feeling that I got. It was just a really brief moment, and I was driving at freeway speed. It was dark. It was just luck that I saw her at all," she said.

"The way she was waving the fabric seemed frantic," Sutton recalled. "I realized if she was that close to getting hit — willing to be that close to freeway traffic — she must really need help."

Sutton was about halfway through her 12-hour journey from Ridgecrest to Crescent City at the time and decided to pull over with her 14-year-old daughter in the car a little ways up the road.

"I didn't really know where I was. I drove far enough to find a road sign and called 911," she told The News. "I got through to a dispatcher, and they said they'd send somebody out."

Sutton had no idea who the woman was until an officer called her back later that day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-recalls-missing-calif-mom-waving-road-article-1.2887530

Anonymous said...

I be thinkin bout them storys bout honor killings. Always the muslum man killin the woman family member? Always. It cant be possible that only the womens cause dis honoring. I be thinkin its really about a sick man that likes to hurt a weaker person.

Anonymous said...

Article:

Report: Missing California mother found chained to object, beaten

A Northern California woman was chained to an object and had been badly beaten when found near an interstate three weeks after she disappeared while jogging, according to a newspaper citing a police-dispatch recording.

The Sacramento Bee reported that it acquired an audio clip of the exchange between dispatchers and officers in the moments after 34-year-old Sherri Papini flagged down a passing motorist near Interstate 5.

"CHP is on scene and advised that she is chained to something," a radio dispatcher told a responding officer. "CHP is advising that she is heavily battered."

Authorities previously said Papini was injured badly enough to require medical treatment when she was found before dawn Thursday, but have given no details of her condition. Calls to California Highway Patrol spokesmen were not immediately returned Friday night.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-missing-california-mom-abducted-beaten-chained-20161125-story.html

Anonymous said...

from Daily Mail news:

Sherri Papini is 'doing good' after she was discovered dumped by the roadside on Thanksgiving Day - three weeks after she disappeared.

Police are now hunting for two Hispanic women considered armed and dangerous, and driving a dark SUV, over the kidnapping.

Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said that the description of the captors was based on 'voice recognition' - suggesting that Papini wasn't able to see her captors.

Her husband Keith had promised their two children that 'mommy' would be home by Thanksgiving.

Her father-in-law Ken said that her return was nothing short of a 'miracle'
'None of us imagined it might actually come true,' he told DailyMail.com

Sherri vanished on November 2 while out jogging near her home.

The 34-year-old was found on Thursday at 4:30am 150 miles away.

Her sister Sheila Koaster said that social media and national news coverage 'was an intricate part in bringing her home to us'. She declined to say whether a ransom had been involved in the release.

from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3972860/None-imagined-actually-come-true-Husband-kidnapped-California-supermom-dumped-roadside-Thanksgiving-promised-children-d-holidays.html

Anonymous said...

What is a SuperMom?

Anonymous said...

Honor killing in Ohio. Reported in DailyMail today.
Jamal Mansour 64 killed his 27yr old daughter Tahani. He shot her 3 times in the head while she was in her bed. His lawyer said the suggestion of this being an honor killing is OFFENSIVE AND RACIST!!!!!!!

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
Honor killing in Ohio. Reported in DailyMail today.
Jamal Mansour 64 killed his 27yr old daughter Tahani. He shot her 3 times in the head while she was in her bed. His lawyer said the suggestion of this being an honor killing is OFFENSIVE AND RACIST!!!!!!!
November 26, 2016 at 10:20 AM


Name calling, or labeling is worse than murder. This is the message of CAIR and the absurdity of Obama, Hillary and the "non fake" news sites.

You can kill someone, but just don't commit "Islamophobia" by calling it what it is.

Absurdity.

Peter

Mouse74 said...

Cognitive Resonance at its best. I sure would love it if you would keep politics out of your blog and stick to Statement Analysis only.

Anonymous said...

The comments arent political. They're regarding morality derived from religion & culture that contributed to a 27 yr old daughter being murdered by her father in her bed for the apparent crime of dishonor. His lawyers spoken statement is relevant. Please distinguish concepts properly. The true motivation must be uncovered so these crimes against daughters, sisters, wives and mothers are not tolerated or disguised. They are crimes against the female human & must not to be condoned by politics.

Habundia said...

Could the difference be the use of force thats been used? Taken sounds less violently then abduction.....maybe that?

Habundia said...

Maybe that spot is chosen with purpose...so it looks like her abductors had left her on a risky spot to show how "dangerous" they are, so they didnt care she could be ride over by cars at the road.....if it is a hoax (which iam not convinced of yet) then itnhad to look like a real kidnapping and a real release. Hoax always has to look real, so this spot makes it complete.....that could be an explanation.

Habundia said...

I ment to say with UNTILL that he didnt responded untill 1.39pm so on that time he did responded....iam curious what this respons was. You would think he would then let her know if he would come home "from" lunch or not...
Then iam wondering....her phone was found without card....was this phone already cardless at 1.39pm?
Iam glad too police isnt done yet....maybe some cop there has joined peters classes hahaha they can use some SA analyser in this case (it stinks)

Saint Theresa said...

It's true. Sad so many will buy into it.

Habundia said...

As if politicians don't need to be analysed by their statements? LMAO....no they are always truthfull(smile)
Right! Then i am santa :-)

Habundia said...

I was on netflix and came up on a serie called "lie to me", its about a person whos a living liedetector. ...and reads facial exprecience to detect truth or lies....thought i shared it here, its in line with statement analysis i think

Anonymous said...

Page 24 of this report http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/docs/Sheriff/daily-logs/11-22-2016.pdf?sfvrsn=2 includes a reference to a blonde white female who looked like the missing person in a truck with a man. If it turns out that Papinni ran off with a lover and made up a story about being kidnapped, this case would make a lot more sense.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:56, I agree. It seems like the police felt frustrated in getting information from Sherri upon her recovery. They talked about how "emotional" she was, and that they look forward to following up with her, in order to get more information. I think she and her husband are both in on the hoax. Just my opinion of course. If that is the case, I sure hope the police will be able to get to the bottom of it.

Anonymous said...

SAN FRANCISCO — A newspaper report says a Northern California woman found near an interstate had been chained to an object and badly beaten.

The Sacramento Bee on Friday cited a radio dispatch recording it obtained describing the reappearance of 34-year-old Sherri Papini.

The dispatch recording quotes California Highway Patrol officers as saying Papini was chained to an unspecified object. The officers also told dispatchers that the woman was heavily battered.

Papini was found near Interstate 5 on Thursday after disappearing while jogging on Nov. 2. Police are looking for two women who allegedly left her near the spot she was found by a passing motorist.

lynda said...

I admit that I immediately had my hinky meter going off with the husband and the whole story.

One of the things I misinterpreted was "on a normal day". I recalled the highlighted "It was a normal day" as always something to watch for so to speak. That it indicated sensitivity as what was to follow was anything but normal.

So, I went wrong when taking the husbands "On a normal day" as being that BUT what he was actually describing was a PAST normal day for him. He did not say regarding the day of the kidnapping.."It was a normal day." Is that correct? If it is, great lesson learned by me.

I did not LIKE certain aspects of his words, particularly the "I know she is screaming for me" that just made me wince but if there is no SA applied to it, then it is just his language, correct?

My hinky meter is still going off wildly on this whole thing, tho that has nothing to do with SA.

Finding out that...

Sherri had posted a letter and self identified as a skinhead on a skinhead website that she discusses her problems with her dad being called a Nazi because he is proud of his German heritage and that he was always having to "stand up to the Latinos", and that she personally kicked the butts of 5 Latinas that were harassing her, her constant racist speech aimed at Latinas, her limping home on a broken leg, standing by your skinhead man, etc.

The Gofundme raised over 50K that went directly to Keith's sister/Keith and that it remained up and taking donations after she was found

The 2 Latinas that kidnapped her that she only "heard" not saw and then identified them as Latina (tho there are plenty of NON Latino's that can adopt that accent)

The being "released" after 3 weeks, seen and released from hospital within a few hours.

Keith NEVER telling children what happened but promising them she would be home on Thanksgiving..and she WAS!

The totally, off the wall, bizarre, "ransom" videos and anonymous person behind it.

Her being released 24 hours almost to the minute after the ransom payoff "expired".

Keith "finding her cell phone" before police

Keith actually getting to her when she was found BEFORE the Sheriff got to her. What's up with that??

The list goes on. It will be fascinating to see if she gives an interview because i would definitely be interested in what the people with real knowledge of SA have to say about that.

Anonymous said...

I always found it odd that the husband, during Sherri's "disappearance," made a point of saying that he hadn't told his kids she was missing. This struck me as odd. Perhaps for 1 day, but over the course of 3 weeks?? I always wondered if he knew his wife was fine and thus no point in upsetting their kids with their hoax...

Anonymous said...

I have faith in law enforcement to get to the truth in this case. It might not be what everyone likes or wants to hear, but the truth will prevail.

Anonymous said...

Many comments from locals, below article here. Gives a picture of the environment in that area.

http://umbrellaofsuspicion.com/2016/11/is-racist-rant-a-motive-in-sherri-papini-abduction/

Anonymous said...

I didn't like Keith Papini's choice of words when he said he thought Sherri had been kidnapped by "low-lifes". The expression "low-lifes", to describe others, is used by people who are morally bereft.

Anonymous said...

Or they're somehow entangled with shady characters. If so, why go out alone? How long was she beside the road b4 a driver saw her? Is that driver a stranger? Or a timing plant? Someone wanted her found. Could've placed her in the road so she'd be hit.

Anonymous said...

Sherri Papini is famous now. She and her husband, both. I wonder if they will appear on the Today Show soon? Will there be a book? Movie? Wait - I'm getting ahead of myself. Law Enforcement is entering into a whole new investigation, according to Law Enforcement. So, we will have to wait and see what develops.

Anonymous said...

Wouldnt torture cause trauma requiring at least a few days of observation in hospital?

Anonymous said...

It's so strange the husband promised the kids "Mommy will be home for Thanksgiving" and then she was.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:57 - I would think a "severe beating" would require at the very least an overnight stay in hospital, especially a young woman missing 3 weeks.

lynda said...

I misread sherri's post on the skinhead site...

It wasn't 5 Latina girls that jumped her and she fought off..

It was 5 Latina girls and 3 Latina men.

So..8..8 Mexican's jumped her, fractured her tibia, and she still defeated them ALL and limped home.

Makes you wonder how a measly 2 Hispanic women could not only kidnap her and get her into a vehicle, but hold her for 3 weeks.

Whew, IDK, this case is just weirder and weirder by the moment

Anonymous said...

The husband kidnapped her and beat her I bet. And I bet SIL helped. jmo

It was probably just an extended version of her hostage-like situation in the home.

jmo. No way do I believe 2 strange women did it...if they did they knew hubby.

Anonymous said...

If her dream was to be a stay at home Mom why were her kids in daycare while she was at home???
These 2 things do not add up. And I bet hubby is behind it.

Anonymous said...

If hubby did it, do you think she can tell people that? She would be too scared.

Anonymous said...

Does not seem random. Seems arranged.

lynda said...

I just noticed that on Sherri's mom and dads one and only media interview, 2 weeks after Sherri was missing, they were both wearing T-shirts that advertised the rental storage facility that dad manages. Not T-shirts with Sherri on them. Odd.

Anonymous said...

I'll bet Law Enforcement in that area loathe their jobs right now.

Anonymous said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Papini_2016_abduction

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU86kyKLaUM

Karen T said...

Mouse74 said...
Cognitive Resonance at its best. I sure would love it if you would keep politics out of your blog and stick to Statement Analysis only.
----------------------------------------
Seriously? Are you really telling Peter Hyatt what he may or may not post on his own blog? Arrogance at it's best.

Anonymous said...

http://www.redding.com/news/local/Security-experts-weigh-in-on-Papini-case-403058276.html?d=mobile

Anonymous said...

I can't stop thinking about the husband Keith's statements ("Bring her home") and demeanor shortly after Sherri Papini's disappearance. I'm thinking this kidnapping might be a hoax, planned & pulled off by Keith and Sherri Papini. I so appreciate this blog because it is dedicated to truth; I look forward to further updates and Statement Analysis is such a fascinating case!

Anon "I" said...

$49,205 of $50k goal
Raised by 496 people in 23 days

https://www.gofundme.com/help-find-sherri-papini

Anonymous said...

How was the money used tania?

Anonymous said...

The gofundme money all goes to Keith and Sherri, to use however they need. I think that's what gofundme money is meant to be/do.

Anonymous said...

A hoax to scam the goodwill of concerned strangers? OMG. There should be abductors finger prints on her body. Or on the restraints. A criminal abductor would've been smart enough to place the phone in a different location to mislead investigators instead of exactly where they grabbed her to give LE a definate starting point. Either they're involved in something bad and the baddies grabbed her to warn them or its all staged. Did med exam check for narcotics like pain meds? Someone roughed her up but that also can be part of the hoax fir misleading investigation.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:02, yep. We will just have to wait now. I'm pretty sure it will all come out.

Anonymous said...

I'm disappointed this story isn't at the top of the heap here. I wish everyone was looking at it.

Pak31 said...

I've just been lurking here, reading comments and just basically seeing what people are posting. It's so easy to sit and judge. Something just isn't right here though. The story is extremely typical. Woman out jogging. We've seen it before. What strikes me is the lack of media information. It's very basic. She went missing but then all of a sudden she's found and there's no information available. Seems very hush hush. At first pictures of her made her appear sweet which she might be but then I saw her nose ring. I'm not biased but it told me she had an edge to her. Now with the Latina rants I'm thinking what we see isn't what she's like behind closed doors. I'll be interested to see what transpires. This story is too cookie cutter and all info is vague.

Peter Hyatt said...

It is a fascinating case and we may learn why the husband was so convinced she was abducted.

Peter

lynda said...

LE in this case have announced they blasted out over subpoenas for cell records, cameras, etc. and are actively investigating Sherri's "past" and such. IMO, until something is positively found..LE will stick with the standard.."We have no reason to believe its not true" YET.

Anonymous said...

A person on Facebook:

Its Didi2 hours ago
According to law enforcement, there are still two armed kidnappers running around loose up and down the I5 Nor Cal corridor, who snatch people up, hold them for weeks, beat them and then chain them up on the side of rural roads in the middle of a dark, cold night. This, and we are on day 4 of Sherri Papini's reappearance with no further details. No composite sketches. No time frame of when she was dropped off so that MAYBE they could find potential witnesses traveling the area at that time. If I were a betting gal, I would say Shasta County Sheriff's office doesn't give a damn about finding these dangerous kidnappers who pose a threat to the public, according to their own claims. Unless, of course, there is another explanation they are aware of.

Anonymous said...

I never saw this video 'till just now - I had seen the first one, but not this second one from the guy representing the anonymous ransom guy. This second one (below) was posted on Youtube shortly before her "release". I like the comment below asking how does he know there is more than one captor. Ha ha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4mjpWpaY8

Anonymous said...

I anyone re-watching Keith Papini's statements after "abduction"? I love the one where he says "Bring her home" and adds "And the sooner the better."

I can't find that video. Maybe it was just a text interview. Hmm...

Anonymous said...

Online piece dated November 11, 2016:

Keith Papini has been talking with detectives and submitted to a polygraph earlier this week as the investigation into his wife’s disappearance intensified, said Lieutenant Anthony Bertain, a spokesman for Shasta County Sheriff’s Office.

“The results of the polygraph examination indicate he has no involvement with the disappearance of his wife,” Bertain said in a statement. “Sheriff’s Office detectives have confirmed his whereabouts on the day in question, and there is no physical evidence at this time suggesting he had any involvement.”

Keith Papini said authorities already knew he had nothing to do with his wife’s disappearance.

“They [the sheriff] already knew at that time it wasn’t me,” he says. “Once this story went everywhere, it was time for them to release to the public — so it is not like it was a relief for me, because that is not where my head has been this whole time. My head has been trying to find my wife.” he told People.

He says his wife was abducted and has made an appeal for her to be returned home.

”I just want her back, and I want her back safety,” he told People.

“Just bring her home,” he said to whomever is responsible. “Please bring her back. The sooner the better.”

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/missing-jogger-sherri-papinis-husband-keith-takes-lie-detector-test/news-story/da136a4cce452e98209ce5b89972c7db

Anonymous said...

On Inside Edition just now they said she was found in "heavy chains and with hose clamps on her wrists". I have no idea what "hose clamps" are. I hope the Inside Edition from tonight will be posted online. They addressed the skepticism about the story, it being a hoax, and they even interviewed Cameron Gamble, the man who makes those Youtube videos promising ransom money for her return. He said something like "No, I don't believe it was a hoax. If it was, she'd be like a Houdini."

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Geo-P6zss

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqnELlnaTe4

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAruvfKOnc

Anonymous said...

Below is my own made up dialogue but based on real statements by Keith Panini:

(Because sometimes imagination/play is a way of looking at things)

Keith Panini: "Return my wife, bring her back home."

ReplY: "Okay, but when? Like, when should we bring her back?"

Keith Panini: "The sooner the better."

Reply: "Okay, we'll just keep her for a while. When should we bring her back?"

Keith Panini: "I have promised my children she'll be home for Thanksgiving."

lynda said...

Husband gave an interview with Good Morning America today...I will try to transcribe. Sheriff's dept and husband have conflicting reports of her injuries from what I can gather right now.

Anonymous said...

The husbands statement is like a lecture. Is that normal following the return of one that was missing?

Anonymous said...

This story still seems hinky.

Anonymous said...

The injuries seem more about humiliation and punishment. If it was sex trafficking they probably wouldnt have cut her hair and disfigured her with bruising and burns. Seems like something else underlying. Husbands' thanking the 'world' for assisting then on to schooling the doubters. Hinky. Fishy. Doesnt yet add up.

Anonymous said...

Can someone clue me in why everyone keeps saying it's ironic that they found her in Yolo County? Is that a common place where people are abducted or dropped off???

Anonymous said...

YOLO - You Only Live Once

Anonymous said...

And Nor Cal reputation as a haven for drug mafia super rich.

Shannon Duane said...

I agree. Something is way off about this case.

Anonymous said...

The husband is saying her hair was chopped off, but didn't the person who found her on the side of the road describe her as having long blonde hair??

Anonymous said...

Thoughts on Statement from Husband Today:

In his statement today, the husband called the doubters of their story "sub-human", and their skepticism "disgusting".

He had no words, good or bad, for his wife's abductors/captors/kidnapper(s).

He said the bad part about this era of the internet, is that people nowadays want "immediate gratification", which in his case means "people want the story, pictures, proof..."

He protests that his family is a private one, who doesn't like putting their stuff on internet.

(I've never seen more stuff on the internet from one family - especially personal family photos.)

He gives a description of when he first saw (and felt) his wife upon her release:

He says he felt "overwhelming nausea" and "revulsion" and that her appearance was "graphic and gruesome", and called it a "grotesque tragedy".

He said her face was bruised, the bridge of her nose broken, that she had lost about 10 pounds (87 down from 100).

He said "her signature long blond hair had been chopped off" (the woman driver said she had long hair on the side of the road).

He said "She has been branded and I could feel the rise of her scabs under my fingers."

He didn't say he saw the branding - He just says he felt it.

"I could feel the rise of her scabs under my fingers" Very strange wording.

Just some thoughts on the statement today.



Bobcat said...

She is back home Where She Belongs. Very disturbing extra information. Not where she is safe, warm, and loved; but Where She Belongs. I hope she gets out safe before it is too late.

Bobcat said...

The branding is stated in a different tense. Did he do the branding? Did he order the branding of his beautiful doll human that is now back home in her place where she belongs??? Angry.

Shannon Duane said...

That's the thing that got me. He went straight to abduction. I'd be scared of murder...that of course involves abduction, but I wouldn't be so adamant about the kidnapping part like he was. I think I'd be focused on the missing/probably dead part. His insistence that she was abducted was just strange.

Shannon Duane said...

Peter, this link has the husband's written statement. Is there anything to be learned from it? He calls her "My Sherri" and "our girl". Are those things you'd ever highlight, and if so, why?

http://www.redding.com/news/local/Keith-Papini-on-GMA--403578496.html?d=mobile

Anonymous said...

He starts his description of seeing her with "Nothing could have prepared me for what I was about to see".

Anonymous said...

His focus is on the doubters/skeptics of their story, but not on the captors of his wife.

Anon 6:02 said:

In his statement today, the husband called the doubters of their story "sub-human", and their skepticism "disgusting".

He had no words, good or bad, for his wife's abductors/captors/kidnapper(s).

Anonymous said...

Seems like a business hit that didnt turn out as bad as it could have. The 'world' is not obligated to automatically believe what he says. Read the comments in DailyMail by its readers. Most believe theres more to the story of what happened to Sheri and doesnt seem quite believable.

Anonymous said...

Missing from his statement:

Feelings of anger or fear towards the abductors.

Any description at all of the abductors.

Any description at all of her experience (where was she, who with, what happened) other than describing her injuries, and his reactions to them.

Anonymous said...

He has such strong words ("sub-human" & "disgusting") for skeptics of the story, and yet he has zero words for the captor(s).

Anonymous said...

Since captors freed her were they going to let her die on side of road after freeing her? If she died after being freed they'd now be murderers if caught. Mom will be back by thanksgiving? Because a phone call will be made to ensure it if a passerby doesnt see her and get help by a certain time. Else she could die and someone is now an abductor and murderer.

Anonymous said...


Cliff's Notes on Husband's Public Statement Today:

This is not a hoax, and here's why: because you're sub-human if you think that, and because she's really beat up.

Anonymous said...


He gives a description of when he first saw (and felt) his wife upon her release:

He says he felt "overwhelming nausea" and "revulsion" and that her appearance was "graphic and gruesome", and called it a "grotesque tragedy".

Anonymous said...

Any ideas why he hasnt verbally condemned those whom abducted and assaulted her?

Anonymous said...

"If he doesn't say it, we can't say it for him."

Anonymous said...

Maybe doesnt want feud to continue?

Anonymous said...

...but he's willing to attack and insult public who doubt, but calling them "sub-human"? Doesn't sound like a "peaceable" approach to me.

Anonymous said...

He may be worried about the people who already showed him what they're capable of & willing to do. Because they're familiar with each other. IMO if she was not raped then the abduction was by familiar persons who were sending a strong warning. He got the warning and wants it over with.

lynda said...

Keith Papini statement

The first thing I would like to address is the overwhelming amount of gratitude our entire family has for the thousands of people that have been on this torturous journey with us. I cannot possibly name each and every person, although their names are eternally etched in our hearts. Thank you to our strong family, devoted friends, the entire Redding community and countless communities around the world. Specific thanks to the Shasta County Sheriff's department, FBI, NorCal Alliance for the Missing, the Lost Coast Trackers, Shasta Support Services, the Guardian Angels, my own personal A-Team, Cameron Gamble, Cody Salfen, Jim Linnan, Sean Ditty, Don Armstrong, Yolo County Sheriff's Department and hospital, the medical personnel that helped our dear Sherri, social media and many news outlets. Thank you to LRT Graphics and Signarama. Thank you to the extremely generous, anonymous as well as named donors all over the world [who] selflessly gave to our family. Thank you to the many incredible humans that have never known Sherri that facilitated in sharing our heart break across the globe. Sherri has always captured my heart, and it is no surprise that she has captured the hearts not only through the country but throughout the world. Thank you, truly, immensely, sincerely and with my entire heart.

Secondly, we live in a nation of free speech, accompanied with an era of technology that provides immediate gratification. This is a double-edged sword. I am grateful for this system, as it is what spread my wife's face quickly throughout the world, gaining the attention of thousands. The unfortunate side is that some people have been sitting in angering, expectant positions, waiting for the gory details.

Rumors, assumptions, lies and hate have been both exhausting and disgusting. Those people should be ashamed of their malicious, subhuman behavior. We are not going to allow those people to take away our spirit, love or rejoice in our girl found alive and home where she belongs. I understand people want the story, pictures, proof that this was not some sort of hoax, plan to gain money or some fabricated race war. I do not see a purpose in addressing each preposterous lie. Instead, may I give you a glimpse of the mixture of horror and elation that was my experience of reuniting with the love of my life and mother of our children.

Nothing could have prepared me for what I was about to see upon my arrival at the hospital nor the details of the true hell I was about to hear. The mental prison I was in over the past three weeks was shattered when my questions of my wife's reality became known.

lynda said...

Keith Papini statement continued..


The officers warned me to brace myself. My first sight was my wife in a hospital bed, her face covered in bruises ranging from yellow to black because of repeated beatings, the bridge of her nose broken.

Her now emaciated body of 87 pounds was covered in multicolored bruises, severe burns, red rashes and chain markings. Her signature long blond hair had been chopped off. She has been branded, and I could feel the rise of her scabs under my fingers. She was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists and a bag over her head. The same bag she used to flag someone down once she was able to free one of her hands. Sherri was taken from us for 22 days and suffered incredibly through both intense physical agony and severe mental torture. My reaction was one of extreme happiness and overwhelming nausea as my eyes and hands scanned her body. I was filled with so much relief and revulsion at once. My Sherri suffered tremendously, and all the visions swirling in your heads of her appearance, I assure you, are not as graphic and gruesome as the reality.

We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy. My love for my wife took [precedence], and it was clear we had to be exposed in ways we never would have been comfortable with. So please have a heart and understand why we have asked for our privacy. This will be along road of healing for everyone. Ultimately, it was Sherri's will to survive that brought her home. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

His overly descriptive language nakes me think of a MOVIE in the works. Why not just thank supporters and go back to anonymity? As he stated the whole world is aware.

Anonymous said...

Odd word choices. Her will to survive brought her home? Her captors let her go. Very unsettling story. Hopefully LE is still looking.

lynda said...

You can't say that Keith doesn't know how to tell a story. Very descriptive. "Signature Blond Hair" It's not speech analysis but "signature"..that's just weird.

He doesn't call the people that kidnapped his wife and tortured her "sub-human"

Anonymous said...

Good point. He actually is engaged in story telling. But why? Just thank everyone and go back home.

Anonymous said...

Having experienced SEVERE mental 'tortue" for 22 days, but released from hospital. Who would risk releasing someone from medical observation knowing severe mental torture?

lynda said...

The Sheriff has stated that he was "blindsided" by Keith Papini's statement and that it compromised the investigation, and he only found out about it an hour before he was set to go on GMA..

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/shasta/sheriffs-office-surprised-and-disappointed-by-keith-papini-statement/191592075

Anonymous said...

And intense physical AGONY. Sounds like at least one month of hospitalization for observation, supervised recovery, psychological monitoring in case of PTSD and rehabilitation. She doesnt need it? Is this woman Robo Cop?

Anonymous said...

He reminds me of Blackburn.

Bobcat said...

Amateur Conclusion:

There are marital issues. There are likely financial issues.

With Keith Papini's knowledge, Cameron Gamble kidnapped Sherri:
1) So she will be thankful to return to and stay with Keith to care for their children together
2) To promote Cameron's consulting business
3) To raise cash donations

Sherri was beaten and branded during her confinement.

Sherri needs a very good lawyer and protection services.

This is my opinion based on public statements made by Keith Papini and Cameron Gamble.

Anonymous said...

For her sake I hope LE is looking at everything

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


lynda @November 29, 2016 at 10:29 PM -Thanks for the heads up!

you said...

"The Sheriff has stated that he was "blindsided" by Keith Papini's statement and that it compromised the investigation, and he only found out about it an hour before he was set to go on GMA..

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/shasta/sheriffs-office-surprised-and-disappointed-by-keith-papini-statement/191592075"
______________________________________________
The Sheriff not only said they were "surprised", but disappointed that Keith released key pieces of information.

So, having taken a polygraph and been interviewed while Sheri was missing, Keith not only compromises the investigation, but also her/their/their family's safety because he can't handle a little negative social media publicity??? Why?

Who is the focus of Keith's statement? His injured wife Sheri or himself? What is the purpose of the statement? To thank supporters? To let the public know how Sheri is being cared for and recovering? To elicit sympathy for Sheri or himself? To alert the public about the 2 alleged-Hispanic kidnappers? A plea to the public for information on the kidnappers (complete with Crime stoppers/Local LE/FBI toll-free phone numbers)? A call for potential witnesses to call? To defend the narrative, by publicly shaming, belittling and demeaning any who dare question it?

Keith not only compromises the investigation, but also her/their/their family's safety because he can't handle a little negative social media publicity. He passed a polygraph and was not considered a suspect early on. Why is he angrier now that his injured but alive wife is returned than when she was "taken"? He should have been more offended that she was taken at all.

Odd that he specified that "I just want her back, and I want her back safely.". Why the need to qualify her condition? What's the difference in wanting her back and wanting her back safely? Safely? Safe is not a word normally associated with a kidnapping. Safe versus what, unsafe? It's almost as if he expected her to be damaged, but not dead. Like he knew there was no threat of death, only harm. Yet, how could he know that? Unless, he was in on the "kidnapping" or knew who perpetrated the "kidnapping".

"I just want her back..."- Why the need to say that? That should be a given. With "i want her back safely." though sounds like he has some measure of authority and he's giving orders on how he wants his property returned.

His description of his appraisal of his wife is cold, egocentric, and alarming. The injuries weren't to her, but to his property. His language lacks any empathy for his wife and evidences that any injury was to him personally-his trophy wife.

So what exactly did he tell his children, when the "Super Mom" they were bonded to and interacted with daily wasn't there to feed, clothe, bathe, cuddle, play, chauffer, comfort, tickle, hug & kiss, giggle with, talk to, laugh with, sing to, dance with, walk with, wake them up, and tuck them in for 21 days? Where did he tell them she was?

What about Sheri's parents? Why were they silent?




Foolsfeedonfolly said...

This is going to sound horrible, but I'm a little surprised that her injuries are so minor (per Keith's account). A large number of missing cases end far worse (rape, sexual trafficking, death, never found). Spoiler Alert: Having read Keith's comments and statement, I am skeptical.

The witness said she saw her with long, blonde hair, but Keith says they chopped her hair. Unless, some of her was chopped, somebody's lying. If some was chopped and the rest needed to be cut to even it up, Keith is exaggerating for effect.

While a broken nose is painful, it is not fatal. Noses heal and given their online wedding picture shoot and rings, it looks like they can probably afford cosmetic surgery.
http://www.brettandemilyphoto.com/2009/11/17/keith-and-sherri-we-heart-you-san-diego-wedding-photographer/

No question that beatings and bruising hurt a lot, but note the lack of broken bones versus the repeated beatings- no broken cheekbones, jawbones, hand bones, wrists, forearms. Note the broken nose, but no missing teeth. Again, noses tend to heal well and can be surgically fixed. The mouth and teeth are a little more "iffy".

"Heavily battered" with no internal injuries or internal bleeding? These injuries sound more consistent with fight-related injuries than a kidnapper abuse scenario.

His description of her branding is off- "feeling the raised scabs beneath his fingertips"? I would be willing to bet that the branding is likely not in a highly visible place, is not of a large scale, and will scar little if at all.

The branding mention aside, the injuries seem "minor" (more surface, cosmetic) for what I"d expect with this type of scenario. Sexist as this sounds, I think she'd be beat up far worse if this involved two women. These injuries seem more like a warning, IMO.

Michael Anderson said...

“She was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists, and a bag over her head,”

The passive voice seem odd here."Vehicle" vs Car"? "Thrown From" vs "Thrown out of"

Peter Hyatt said...

Michael Anderson said...
“She was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists, and a bag over her head,”

The passive voice seem odd here."Vehicle" vs Car"? "Thrown From" vs "Thrown out of"
November 30, 2016 at 4:26 AM





Passivity is used when the responsibility is concealed or unknown. Here, if the subject (speaker) does not know the identity of those who were responsible for the event, passivity is the only appropriate language.

As to "vehicle", this is sometimes used for a variety of reasons, including unknown identity (is it a car, truck, SUV, etc), while at other times, it is a slight 'distancing' language which may be due to not knowing the identity of the owners/responsible players.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Because he's constructed the narrative, we really dont know if she was actually thrown from a vehicle. Pushed out? Probably. But thrown? IMO focus/scrutiny of LE should be on husband. The story teller. Just as DB constructed the narrative that LE apparently bought hook line and sinker what happened to Sheri is being constructed by her husband. Remember DB's entire alibi is basically: he wasnt there and that some unknown said the snoop dogs were.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the detail of the long blond hair vs. hair chopped off is that significant. It either is that the husband is exaggerating the length of the hair that was cut or that the witness "filled in" that detail in her head later when she recollected on all of the pictures that were posted all over the internet of SP. Remember, she was in a passing car on a highway at 4:30am. Would be hard to see detail.

Karen T said...

Peter, I wish you would, or could, comment on the accusatory nature of people's posts. I am disturbed at how willing people are to accuse the Papini's of wrongdoing.

I am also struck by the fact that Keith did not condemn the abductors in any way.

Also, I wonder if people think about what happens if the Shasta County Sheriff's office puts all the information they have out to the public. How do they convene a jury if all known facts are made public? Instead of accusing the Sheriff of incompetence shouldn't we be glad that he wants to build a solid case against the perpetrators? Don't we want then to be convicted and sent to prison? Tainting the jury pool in Shasta county would be very foolish.

Anonymous said...

I wish. Accusatory nature. I'm disturbed. Accuse again.
At least provide example of perceived accusations.Do you understand the blog is about deception and crime solving?

Peter Hyatt said...

Karen,

look carefully at your post.

You ask me to comment on the accusatory nature of people's posts.

Then, you wrote, "I am also struck..." with "also" linking yourself to them.

You're doing what you should be doing: seeking answers, but that is what others who question this case are doing, as well.

When someone speaks publicly, there is a presupposition that they will either be believed or they will not be believed. Many people here felt that the husband killed the wife, based upon the husband's words. I have been able to correct some of them privately, though no enrolled students made this claim. This is why I referred more than a few to enroll in training to learn analysis.

Without having others to correct our work, we will fail. Working with others is an iron that sharpens iron wonderfully. The same material is needed.

I have not weighed in much on this case, outside the corrections, which I may explain my reason after the case is closed. For now, police are looking for the kidnappers.

The unusual nature of the case caught the attention of not only readers here, but around the country. Look at the comments in the early news articles. The husband was convinced she was abducted.

Given how popular deception and exploitation has become ("Go Fund Me"), and how many scams are now pulled, I don't think people have been overly suspicious in their comments. Those that I corrected were those who sought to use S/A principles in their opinions; but those who just speculated I did not.

In the Maddie McCann case, I only deleted one person from Facebook. This person wanted "the hate" to stop.

This is the "politically correct" propaganda that is used to stop the free flow of ideas and speech.

This is the bane of moral narcissists who see themselves as superior to others, morally, rather than be open minded and learn. Had the person disagreed with some point of analysis, I would be able to look at the point, and see if it is defensible, or if I have made an error.

This is not what the FB poster wanted, however.

When I first heard of "global warming" I wanted to know if we were, indeed, polluting our world and dangerously causing temperatures to rise.

When I saw politicians rushing to it, I hesitated.

Back then, scientists debated global warming, which is, in essence, what produced America: the freedom of competing ideas. If we were not free to disagree with the king, we would not be the United States. For some, this was "treason" while for our forefathers, it was freedom.

In global warming, it soon became propaganda. The defense of the scientists was to silence dissent.

Once I saw that, I no longer worried about global warming. I, too, saw the irony of global warming conferences being cancelled due to snow storms and read what the "bad" or "fake" scientists wrote about long term weather patterns.

When an idea is defended by coercion, the idea cannot stand upon its own. When scientists who disagreed lost their job, credentials, standings, etc we are left with

Islam terror with hundreds of thousands death, displaced, homeless, etc with John Kerry saying

"air conditioners are more dangerous than ISIS."

Statement Analysis is a scientific process that produces extreme accuracy.

It must be always subject to scrutiny.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

PS for Michael Anderson:

with the correction about passivity, I should have added that I respect the attempt to find the answer on your part, rather than just speculate anonymously.

With correction, we may grow and appropriately apply principle. You will see, should you continue, how this will produce accuracy for you, going forward.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

For an example of purchased opinions, see

Casey Anthony trial

Or easier, see how many vets recommend corn as the number one ingredient for your dogs.

Backed by millions of dollars of studies.

Next take a series of close up photos of your Fido.

Then feed him meat, preferably raw including uncooked bones, with small amount of veggies but NO dog food. Imitate a diet if your beloved Fido had to kill to eat.

In three weeks, repeat photos.
Mtake a whiff of his breath.

Then read about all the professionals who quote studies to tell you how dangerous this is for your dog.

Go to studies.

Seek to learn source of financing the study.

Smile at fido's rich coat, pigment, eyes, energy levels and small stools.

Smile.

You can substitute the meat diet w cooked (no bones) or fresh frozen meat diets sold.

Corn from experts paid for by corporate America versus

You with no vet college education.

Report results.

I hope this exercise suggests to some why the elite are so concerned with global warming.

💀

Anonymous said...

Which is the only mammal in the world that does not and will not provide its offspring with provided milk? Instead uses factory concoctions and then milk from another mammal specie usually bovine. Criminal expertise. Women no longer understand what their breasts are for. Those that do are ridiculed. But the misuse: tatoos, piercings, show & tell and artificial enhancement? Considered normal.

mom2many said...

The global warming alarmists are still flying private jets. If they are not concerned enough to change their own behavior, why should I take them seriously?

I live a "low carbon," frugal lifestyle by necessity, and out of respect for the command to subdue and exercise dominion over the earth. I don't need to be frightened into doing so.

I object to any use of fear to attempt to control behavior.

Anonymous said...

Good point mom2. Respect for vs fear.

LisaB said...

“This has been the most amazing Thanksgiving that our family could ever ask for,” Koester told the station Friday. “We’re all very, very, very excited, very, very relieved and just very thankful for getting our Sherri back.”

There are a LOT of "very"s in that quote!

https://heavy.com/news/2016/11/sherri-papini-kidnapped-abducted-hoax-mexicans-truth-lie-fake-publicity-redding-california-facebook-photos-police-reward-gofundme/amp/

Peter Hyatt said...

Regarding the question about the husband's lack of reaction towards the kidnappers...

it is an interesting point to raise. We look to hear the disposition the subject will have towards the assailants.

No reaction....was it edited out?

Was it due to knowing them? (nefarious, as in conspiracy to defraud...)

Was it due to police asking him not to say anything? (cooperation with LE)

Was it due to suspicion of who they are? (not willing to say anything that might alert them)

Was it due to fear of reprisal against him and his family?

The point is taken and I do not have an answer as to why.

The case is bizarre and you'll hear the caution in the chief's voice as he considers different possibilities.

When the truth comes out, I think we will understand.

LisaB said...

"We are a very private family [who] do not use social media outlets prior to this grotesque tragedy."

Except when we are blogging about our white pride?

Peter Hyatt said...

There is almost $50,000 at Go Fund Me.

It will be interesting to see if the family returns the money, since she has been found.

Skeptical Sam said...

Did they return her with, or without her engagement and wedding rings? What caused her to go out for a jog halfway through wrapping a gift? And if she was located at 4:30PM, why did her husband go through with the balloon release vigil 3½ hours later? Surely he had been informed by then that she was no longer missing!

Skeptical Sam said...

Did they return her with or without her engagement and wedding rings? What caused her to go out for a jog halfway through wrapping a gift? And if she was located at 4:30AM, why did her husband go through with the balloon release vigil 3½ hours later? Surely he had been informed by then that she was no longer missing!

LisaB said...

Sam,

I see you changed the time she was found from PM to AM, thank you. It IS surprising that he continued to seek publicity to "find" her hours after she had been found.

No broken bones? Nor even chipped teeth? Seriously? She was thrown from a moving car with her hands bound and a bag over her head. No way to break her fall...

All the injuries described seem like things that would heal or (in the case of her hair) grow back.

I have 24" long hair, and as much as I would hate to chop it off, I might consider it for $50K. If I could cut 12" off and make it look choppy, I'd be even more likely to do it, and a trip to the hair salon would make it look okay while it was growing in.

I was one of the people who NEVER expected her to come back alive, and was suspicious of the husband finding the phone even though the headphones were connected (which would mute the sound).

Rumor has it that her ex was released from a jail sentence just 2-3 days before her kidnapping. Could he have arranged it? Or could she have gone to him willingly?

Anonymous said...

BBC reporting the branding mark may be a message.

Anonymous said...

CRUMBLING TOWN – REDDING, CA
The horrific demise of a once beautiful and peaceful town in Northern California.

Anonymous said...

Now its reported that sheri made it to a church b4 signaling a driver for help.

lynda said...

Sheriff has stated that her phone that was found on the side of the road was "set" there. Phone was face-up and the ear buds were wrapped up and placed on top of screen. This is the phone that the husband found first.
Husband also got to sherri BEFORE Redding police when she was found.
Also being reported on local media site that GOFUNDME will most likely "go to Sherri and Keith"

I'm seriously starting to think that somebody might be in cahoots here. I wonder about this "hostage negotiator" guy Gamble who came literally from out of nowhere.

http://www.today.com/video/abducted-mom-sherri-papini-s-husband-she-has-been-branded-820762179981

LisaB said...

Again... Why would he proceed with the "Bring Sherri Home" vigil and balloon release if HE HIMSELF had already spoken to her?

According to him, "the officers warned" him "to brace himself", but he was unprepared for the huge amount of superficial damage, so I am wondering where the information came from that he got to her first.


http://www.today.com/video/abducted-mom-sherri-papini-s-husband-she-has-been-branded-820762179981

lynda said...

Good pick up LisaB!

The Sheriff himself said it in an interview that he gave to news stations. I read it myself. Sherri was found 150 miles away, I'm assuming Keith beat Redding police to hospital and local LE THERE told him to "brace himself". I'm assuming that, I don't know for a fact

Anonymous said...

Live press conference today at 1:30pm PST - link here - -

http://www.krcrtv.com/krcr-news-channel-7-live-stream

Anonymous said...

You've just described classic narcissism, as I've mentioned in previous posts.

"can't handle a little negative... publicity". They must be adored, worshipped, and coddled. They will not tolerate anything slight or criticism.

"cold, egocentric, and alarming". I saw it in his photos.

"His property". They treat everyone like objects to use and discard.

"Lacks any empathy for his wife"

"Any injury was to him personally". Yes they are always the victim (and martyr). It is always about them.

Anonymous said...

He was keeping the kids in the dark under the guise of protecting them. He really didn't want LE questioning them I bet. After several weeks the kids wont recall anything to help LE. Hows he gonna explain her injuries? "This is what happens when you disobey Daddy"?

And by releasing info about the branding, LE cant use it to determine what only the real perp knows vs the general public knows.

Very reminiscent of the T eresa Huston suicide in 2013. I believe her husband was an abuser from all his statement and interviews and coldness and he drove her to commit suicide. He said he didnt want the kids interviewed so they wouldn't know about their mom (tho there were flyers all over about her then-disappearance. Not to mention the news. And that guy showed a lot more red flags and contradictions than Keith.

Anonymous said...

I read where the witness said Sherri was with 2 Hispanic men in a blue truck. So were they in cahoots with the 2 in the black car? Cant depend on accuracy in the media. My friend thought maybe it was drug related (not due to race but that area in Calif is pot country). Perhaps Keith was in trouble and taking his wife was a warning.

Anonymous said...

Good point. Maybe to keep her from speaking out and accidentally incriminating him in the media once she has healed.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Were you expecting love poems? Are we never to question motives, point out inconsistancies, evaluate, speculate, or theorize? Critical thinking skills arent utilized enough today.

lynda said...

Interestingly, Keith's "sub-human" remark is a word that white supremacists use quite a bit. Comes from the Nazi "Untermensch"

even tho it is in my 25,000 word index, I don't recall EVER using that word.

Anonymous said...

Ya but sheri's ex husband said she wasnt the person who wrote the story about the latinos. He says it was unknown class mate

lynda said...

Anon @ 6:44

yes..they dragged the exhusband out for a sound bite. He said it was written as a "high school prank"...IT was written 3 YEARS AFTER SHE GRADUATED...what? someone from high school waited 3 years after graduation and then wrote it as a "Prank". How does he know that? He then admits that they don't know who wrote it!! Then how does he know it was someone from high school?? I call BS on THAT explanation.

Anonymous said...

EMBEDDED CONFESSION??
He's saying people want proof of certain things they've heard. They are NOT accusations. But:

“I understand people want the story, pictures, proof that this was not some sort of hoax, plan to gain money, or some fabricated race war. I do not see a purpose in addressing each preposterous lie.”

Http://www.sacbee.com/

Anonymous said...

I was thinking a book. Its laughable. And yes they will capitalize on this. Hollywood loves attractive blondes too.

Narcissists use cliches and other people words because theres nothing in their heart to express. My faves:

"and all the visions swirling in your heads" (like sugarplums?)

"Nothing could have prepared me for what I was about to see upon my arrival at the hospital, nor the details of the true hell I was about to hear,” he said “The mental prison I was in over the past three weeks was shattered when … my wife’s reality became known.”

"We are not going to allow those people to take away our spirit, love, or rejoice in our girl found alive and home where she belongs."

Have you seen all the contrived modeling type photos of her as well as them together? Both seem a bit full of themselves.

Anonymous said...

He nailed it. We do want proof its not a hoax or something other than an abduction by strangers. Everyone who contributed in any way should want that certainty. Because so much seems off and most things he said. He's trying to nip in the bud any doubt of his narrative. And the doubts are not preposterous lies.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know more of this which you speak off, any link you recommed?

Anonymous said...

Because he is LOVING the attention. The longer he can draw things out, the better. And im sure he wants to look highly educated.

Anonymous said...

Very plausible. Who offers ransom with an EXPIRATION date? Is that normal? Heres what Gamble said and it makes no sense:

"while it may never be known what prompted her release, it was likely no coincidence she was released 24 hours after the donor announced the ransom became a reward."

But the ransom wasn't claimed. How is that a coincidence aside from the anonymous donor and inclusion of Gamble being a rouse to legitimize the "crime" keep the story in the media. It would explain the expir date too I guess.

Sacbee.com

Anonymous said...

Purported interview on 20/20 Friday evening with the husband, KP.

Anonymous said...

Sacbee headline: "Ransom negotiator says Sherri Papini ‘found the key to stay alive"

But he never said what she did. All I read was she waved a piece of fabric around to get a car to stop. I think anyone would do that.

His wording made me expect some defense technique or survivalist skill. Something admirable.

So does it sound like that's what he really thinking? That she was locked up in storage or the basement or left in the woods (by hubby or his assoc) and she found the key to staying alive for 3 weeks? That would make her more of a hero.

Whats their m.o.? Don't kidnappers feed their hostages? wouldn't they ask for ransom or take it if it's offered? They didn't kill her, but just let her go? It takes all kinds sure. But its really off.

Deemarie said...

He has never said during all his interviews that they will get the culprits.

lynda said...

Oh my...this "we are very private" said by Keith Papini is now giving an exclusive interview to 20/20 on Friday.

I am seriously starting to think the "ransom dude" C. Gamble is maybe a part of this. He appears out of nowhere, saying they don't care about justice, offering a reward for the return of Sherri, anonymous donor, he makes all these creepy videos, Keith Papini is all "Yes, you can believe in him" and Gamble is of course, promoting his own business of hostage negotiator superman. Hire me! Call me!

Do you want to be really creeped out? Watch this Vimeo that Gamble made for his company with someone that is basically a Sherri clone and please give me your thoughts.

Perhaps Keith Papini DIDN'T know where she was, DIDN'T know who took her because he wasn't TOLD. You can't lie and get caught by SA if you weren't TOLD who, what, where, it was going to happen.

This vid is mind blowing when compared to Sherri...I can't help but think that LE is ALL OVER THIS

https://vimeo.com/57336088

lynda said...

Keith Papini said

"I do not see a purpose in addressing each preposterous lie.”

But...let me go on 20/20 anyway. I think Keith will know exactly what to say and be aware of the words he's using. He reads EVERYTHING

Anonymous said...

Wow. Good find.... You're right looks like her. Alot!! Couldnt watch all of it. But what a coincidence.

Anonymous said...

If the untrained see something awry, then LE must. But they gotta have proof.

lynda said...

Gamble has said over and over that they(meaning HIM and Keith) are not interested in prosecution or even who they are. "WE don't care about justice".

I guess they don't since no one seems interested in catching these monsters except LE

Maybe because they know there are no Latino monsters per se, at least in this case

Sherri has been shown video from where she was supposedly kidnapped and is unable to find the vehicle that took her.

lynda said...

Anonymous said...
If the untrained see something awry, then LE must. But they gotta have proof.

November 30, 2016 at 10:42 PM
_________________

You know what they say, follow the money. It may also be relevant that Rod Rodriguez, Keith's step father that was posting anywhere he could about how perfect their family is and jumping on the kidnapping bandwagon is MILLIONS of dollars in debt and tied up in court having his assets liquidated and sold at bankruptcy court. Shasta Enterprises. Public record.

Anonymous said...

An ad for gamble says he's a hostage negotiator for abducted Missionaries. Never heard of that, but report said sheri went to a church b4 flagging down a passerby. Didnt say if anyone was at the church. Or if she just limped to the property. Coincidence? Or nothing?

Anonymous said...

His language seems like a screenplay. Overly descriptive.

lynda said...

Snippet of Keith's interview on 20/20 coming on Friday..

She was a..BOUND, she had a metal, uh sorry, a chain around her waist, that is correct. She had a bag over her head, that is correct.
Her left hand was........in the vehicle chained to something. And she was..
Interviewer interrupts "To make sure she didn't jump out of the car."
Keith - Yeah, she was always, she was chained, anytime she was in a vehicle. They opened the door, she doesn't know cuz she had a bag over her head, they cut something to free her RESTRAINT that was holding her into the vehicle, and then, kind of pushed her out of the vehicle.

End of clip.

Keith has a very distinct way of talking. Remember how Chandler Bing on Friends would always put emphasis on a particular word in a sentence? Could that BE any funnier? That's how Keith talks. He puts a louder, harder emphasis on certain words.

So all you SA smarties :) Here's a little clip to analyze!

Anonymous said...

Why is he on national news? The story is 2nd hand. It didnt happen to him. And no one knows if he's truth or story telling. Why is he setting the stage or constructing the narrative about his wifes experience? Cant media wait for sheri to say what happened? If she ever does how will anyone know now if its her story or his story?

Anonymous said...

Or maybe it is leakage and there was an actual key she had to find to get out of whatever box or room he kept her in. Like one of those Saw movies. Lol

Katrina said...

Why would Sherri be so important she would be kidnapped, bound, bag over her head, starved, chained, branded, like someone kidnapped down in Mexico till their family coughs up millions of dollars?

Only there was no ransom. Noone wanted a single dollar.

I think the guy's full of shit. I think the husband just kept her somewhere and did all that shit to her. And then dropped her off. She knows he did it. She's not going to tell. He's been isolating her for a while and messing with her mind...even putting her kids in daycare so she could be a stay at home Mom with no kids at home...now she's REALLY scared and she knows cops don't think he did it, and he's convinced her noone will believe her.

The story is preposterous. The husband did it.

Anonymous said...

He seems like a talker and astute LE should be listening. I wonder if he and she were interviewed seperately? I'm sending Detective Columbo to Redding California to start investigation. Jim Rockford is heading there now from Malibu to participate and talk up the locals. Lotta trouble in Redding & Clint E is on the team in case the NorCal drug goons slither into town.

Anonymous said...

"she was chained, anytime she was in a vehicle". A VEHICLE? How many vehicles was she in? And why did they drive her around so much?

"They opened the door, she doesn't know cuz she had a bag over her head, they cut something...".

Tense shift anyone? "Cut" could be either. Sounds like he's making it up on the fly.

Did she have a soundproof bag on her head? The sound and feel of a door opening on a moving car is unmistakeable.

"they cut something to free her RESTRAINT that was holding her into the vehicle".

So we have "something" tied to a restraint that may or may not be the chain that she always had to wear in the car.

If the "something" is the chain, they cant easily cut that. If the restraint is the chain, why did he stop using the word "chain" at that point?

HER, not THE, restraint. Shows closeness. And they did not free HER. Only her RESTRAINT.

"And then kind of pushed her out...". How do you KIND OF push a person out of a moving car? Isnt "push" too soft? Shoved or forced her out.

Also her restraint, not the kidnappers, was holding her in(to) the vehicle.

Too many unnecessary words. He seems to remember an inordinate amount of minute details. For someone who knew about the interview in advance, he didnt sound polished or well educated. Total opposite of the poetic b.s. he used when addressing the public.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely

Anonymous said...

Don't be ridiculous. This is a job for the A-Team.

Anonymous said...

I think hes spending a lot of time drumming up publicity.

Look at me look at me! Oh I'm such a victim. Feel sorry for MEEEE! Admire me for being a concerned husband! Look how cute I am in our pictures! Look how strong I am. Look I can cry and be all sensitive-like. I'm a 2 year old in an adult body!

Remember meeeeeee.....

Anonymous said...

Dont you mean preposterous? Anyway, Clint be ok. Lee Marvin and Chuck Norris on call. Time to drain the cartel swamp. A Team at Trmp Tower. Big job being planned.

Anonymous said...

She would've been better off with real kidnappers.

Anonymous said...

There are sick people out there...the hubby sounds like a sicko...the guy prob looks at VERY violent porn and decided he'd act some of it out on his wife. While also teaching her she is his prisoner. Thats pretty much the story with a lot of these sickos.

Anonymous said...

Preposterous,sub-human, whatever. Lol

Anonymous said...

He wants a sex slave who exists only for his sexual needs (even thiugh he seems kinda gay). He wants a sex slave/prisoner. Sadistic. They should check to see if hubby might have harmed/killed in the past. This is not a fantasy he just developed last month--its been brewing in his head for years.

Anonymous said...

He enjoys degradation. Torture. Check to see if they can tie him to the other blond CA misding person. This is one sick puppy.

Anonymous said...

Yes those types usually have some kind of addiction. Watch enough ID channel and nothing will surprise you. After I was dumped by a pathological narcissist (thank God) I found out from his ex-wife that in addition to all the typical abuses, he forced her to sleep with other men and often mentioned he wanted her have another man's baby. It felt gross to have been with such a monster.

Anonymous said...

I agree. Also that he seems gay. There are a couple of theories about homosexuals and narcissistic personality disorder, but nothing official. I bet he is on porn sites and has cheated on her.

Anonymous said...

What kind of job he have?

Anonymous said...

Actually a lot of this abnormal behavior starts to form during early childhood and teenage years.

Anonymous said...

Does he know that hostage negotiater guy?

Anonymous said...

Best Buy.

Anonymous said...

Wondering about job because photos seem to say they're wealthy. They look wealthy. One pic looked like Caribbean vacation maybe?

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