Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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TXLurker is paying.
Pastor's kids can get away with murder - true or false
So it appears. But I don't think he will get away with it. Tick tock tick tock.
TX Lurker has set up multiple chat rooms - including private ones - for us to discuss this case to our heart's content, unmolested and unridiculed and uncensored and unmoderated. We drink together, we scheme, we share theories and pass information on to the media and law enforcement, we laugh and poke fun at Davey and his lies -
- and we will not cease in our quest for justice for Amanda Grace Blackburn and her unborn child.
Nothing is wasted indeed. The best is yet to come - for sure. Karma rules. And this bastard on wheels is going down. Circle the wagons, his friends and family - and prepare for doom.
Tell us how you really feel, Flightful. Lol.
Bananaboat, Bananabat, you are missed at Chatzy. I don't know if you read here, but I wish you'd come back.
YES BB, I am not sure why you left but we do miss you!
Peter, I am not sure if you have heard the latest but Larry Taylor has requested for the state to pay an expert to test the cell phone pings that morning. They don't match the script laid out to the public and according to the dossier it would prove thugs were not at the first robbery on Sunnyfield that morning. Very interesting and odd happenings. Larry is fighting this as much as he can with no money and little resources.
Peter, this was posted in Chatzy, a transcript done by CJ of part of Davey's latest podcast
I added paragraphs, in chat room it comes across as all one line because if you hit return it posts it. Thanks very much to CJ for the transcript. . .
41:09 Davey: Well, I think, Brittany, you know you talked, you alluded to the fact that you feel guilt, and, certainly I've had to wrestle with that as well, of just thinking about all kinds of things like man, what if I had locked the front door?
or what if I had set the alarm when I left? or what if, you know, I had been there, could I have protected her or could I have defended her from this, and, um you know, um as you were talking Daniel, about your time with, with Lindsay in the hospital, I remember when I first was allowed to see Amanda back in the hospital room, that, that was, um, in that breaking down moment of seeing her like that, that I just, I just, I just kind of fell on top of her and I just sobbed and yelled I'm sorry, I'm sorry I wasn't there, I'm so sorry I wasn't there.
And I'm not sure she heard me or not, I'm not sure if she was actually aware at all. you know, as she was unconscious there, there in the hospital bed, but I felt this overwhelming guilt, um, um, and I remember wrestling with that for a long time and trying to process through that, especially asking the Lord, Why? Why was I not there?
I would have gladly given my life so that she and Weston could continue to live together, and our, and our, and she could have little Evie, and they could be a family. And I would gladly have laid down my life. Why could I not have been there? And I wrestled through that, and so much...
^^^ Cj commented that "Davey's not in the picture" - and he isn't - the picture he painted of Amanda and Weston and Evie together - see bolded in last paragraph. He's not there. He says THEY could be a family - not WE could be a family. Nice catch.
And look at all the stammering on "and our, and our".
IMO Crazy D says "THEY" because in this scenario, he is dead. "I would have gladly given my life....".
I think it's interesting that his scenario "if I'd just been there" still ends in death for one of them. If, in a perfect world, (if only) crazy Davey had been there to protect his pregnant wife, Amanda, and his son, Weston, from the gun wielding burglars, he should have lived to tell the tale about how he fought to save his family and they all live happily ever after,I would have thought.
And how, exactly does one protect ones pregnant wife and child, after you've "gladly laid down" your life? Would the burglars, having shot Davey, suddenly say "ooops sorry, we'll see ourselves out" and leave Amanda and Weston unharmed, Davey?
The words "I would have gladly give my life so that she and Weston could continue to live together..." Doesn't sit right with me. I'm not quite sure why not, yet. It's the inclusion of Weston, I think. I'll come back to that one.
"......so that she and Weston and our, and our...and she could have little Evie...." Why can't Davey say "our daughter"?
Question for Peter and/or anyone that wants to answer - is Davey Blackburn being truthful about feeling "overwhelming guilt."
PS: I note that His guilt is in the past tense. DB "felt" guilt he Does not "feel" guilt. He "remembers wrestling with" and "trying to process".
"I felt this overwhelming guilt" is a very strong past tense statement.
"I just sobbed and yelled I'm sorry, I'm sorry I wasn't there"
Davey can't bring himself to say 'our unborn baby'
When he says "they (Amanda, Weston, Evie) could be a family", it fits the theory that they had talked of divorce.
RIP Amanda & Baby
Trudy- I think what's bothering you is you're having an issue with phrases like this...
Davey: " I would have gladly given my life so that she and Weston could continue to live together,..."
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Absent Amanda being murdered, why wouldn't he expect them to live together? Davey's scenario is that if only he'd been there, he could have laid down his life, then Amanda and could continue to live together- not that Amanda would continue to live.
It's expected that a mother and her toddler will live together until the toddler grows to adulthood and leaves home. It's that Davey has the need to verbalize that, along with the "Good Guy" assertions ("I would have gladly given my life...").
Amanda didn't need him to give his life; she just needed him to set the alarm and lock the front door- Be responsible...something Davey has difficulty being and doing (5 launches for his Church, emptying their Savings accounts trying to float his failing business venture, while he enjoys a gym membership and spends their money living the "successful lifestyle" of the mega-church NewSpring culture). Even in the wake of Amanda's death, he was far too instrumental in promoting "Amanda's story" to stay home and actually take care of Weston, who'd lost his mommy (primary security, nurturer, and caregiver).
Davey's account makes it clear someone was going to/had to die. It was either him or Amanda.
Please note, CJ's transcription needs to be reviewed before SA.
Davey is flat out lying on this podcast. But he does now answer my ?. They DID have an alarm and he didn't set it! He SHOULD feel guilty and needs to walk away into the sunset with his greedy little self BUT he won't and he doesn't feel guilty at all.
Also, Davey told the neighborhood watch lady that he left the door unlocked to teach Amanda a lesson about her keys, something cold like that. He has not ever had one ounce of guilt, he is just trying to play into the trust of this couple. He needs to have a connection to a couple who is remarried so it will all be alright for him to have gotten remarried (to the Christian public). He is manipulative and intentional in all he does.
He did the same thing with Dave Ramsey. He had to connect with DR and promote his financial planning scenario to let everyone know WHY he got such a big life insurance on Amanda. Dave told him to! He plays into the Christian community because they are his market.
He is as big a con artist as they come.
Davey revealing he didn't set the alarm will also help the defense. He left the front door unlocked, failed to set the alarm and blabbed on the phone to his bestie for over an hour and finally, waited to go into the home for 50 minutes. He conveniently never mentions blabbing on the phone to Kenneth that long, where's the regret there? Where's the guilt? If you feel bad about not locking up, wouldn't you feel even worse knowing your wife is bleeding out, fighting for her life while you sip on starbucks and yuck it up on the phone?
Davey has zero connection to the second pregnancy, he hated the fact she was pregnant and those around her missed the warning signs and in the end, decide to enable Davey beyond measure.
Phil's church seems to be growing by leaps and bounds, wonder how that makes Davey boy feel.
Interesting how one of Amber's besties had a baby that died of "sids" even though she was at her wits end with him and left him after failing to feed him or take him to the doctor. The same buddy who allows a daughter to develop a nasty rash and post about it on social media rather than take her to a doctor. What is in the water over there?
I knew Mike Colaw was deceptive, and the BS Moody radio show was propaganda.
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/insights/?referrer=page_insights_tab_button
For those of you at Chatzy (especially Trudy), thanks for the tangents. ;-)
David Drury is back on facebook! I keep hoping for the truth, that the Wesleyans won't lie (any more? / in court depos?) for Davey - at least now that "Monday" is out of the bag...
Who is the friend? That is suspicious
...And that friend has another "friend" whose baby was "crushed/smothered" by a box fan in her own crib. And they have an independent family ministry (of course).
Anon @ 4:18
It doesn't matter. She presents as the perfect Christian achiever soccer mom - who are apparently untouchable in Indiana. And she's bore three more children since.
Hey hi everyone.
Thanks Foolsfeedonfolly @ 10:59pm. You're right. I think that's what was bothering me. I appreciate your insight.
Bingo and Kate I agree with your comments and had to lol at "walk away into the sunset with his greedy little self". The new detail about the burglar alarm is interesting. Now the question is did the Blackburn's routinely set the alarm? Megs might know.
What tangents are you talking about Bocat? I thought I was back on track. :)
Maybe not tangents - there is too much to review in a week in the chat, but I saved it all in one fat searchable doc.
This goodie: "The Megs post on the day of Amanda's murder, well the 10th anyway" ... regarding the Christmas ornaments.
And also the Christy comment after the Colaw blog. That wasn't you, but it was a great find!
I wonder if they routinely set it, will be interesting to find out. What stands out to me is, law enforcement again, clearing him so quickly. Now we have the alarm that wasn't set that morning to add to the list. How in the world would any law enforcement clear a man in record time like they did Davey and make sure to have it blitzed all over the media to ensure every single person knew he was not involved in the murder of his wife, when he had ten million things pointing directly to him? At the very least enough to raise an eyebrow, yet their main mission was to get the word out that Davey was 100% in the clear.
Davey also has a common theme on his podcasts bringing on guests who have similarly lost their partners in hoping to justify his behavior. I believe he brought his last two guests on, Daniel & Brittany Brooker solely for the purpose to show that these two suffered loss and remarried in the same time frame he, (Davey), had done. Same with Erb and on and on.
Last thing, I noticed Davey always avoids talking about his lengthy phone call to KW, he always says he "wrapped up his conversation and went in". I think he does this deliberately as that little part of the story is going to be blown apart. I wonder, if Amanda had tried to place a call to Davey that morning? Especially after the pin problem......
Yes. I wonder if he got an alert from Chase bank about suspicious activity on Amanda's card, too.
CJ: 42:24 And I wrestled through that so much and I remember, the Lord just speaking to my heart in, in such a way that only the Lord can, and, and, just reminding me that, um, that sh-, that Amanda walked through some serious fire in the last 45 minutes of her life, but one of the best ways that I can express love to her and be, um, that defender to her now, on the other side of things, is to continue to carry her story. And continue to help people, and minister to people through that. And I’ll never forget that moment where you said, hey this is what I have for you to do now. And this is the way that you continue to show her that, that love., um, even when you can’t tangibly do it. And it was in spaces where man, I felt like, like all of that love that I’d felt had no outlet, whatsoever, and so it was just kind of sittin’ there and festering inside of my body even becoming physically sick, because everything just was so pent up and the grief and all of that emotion, and um, and I began to feel that release of just going, okay, this is the cross that I’m called to carry now, for the rest of my life, and that’s, that’s the sacrificial love that I can show her, uh, even on into the rest of my life. Um, but, but that, that wrestling with guilt, I’m sure there’s so many people that wrestle with the “what ifs,” well what if I had just changed this little tiny aspect? You know, what if I had been a couple of minutes off, or a couple of seconds had been different here, or this decision had been different? I’m sure that there’s so many people that wrestle with that….
Transcript compliments of CJ Schizzle B
All the pain, grief, blah blah blah DB! You wrote the best is yet to come when you announced her death. Just shush! Trudy, he absolutely uses peeps to make his story sound better. And I am sure he received a call from the bank too. Did the police check his phone that morning?
As far as we know, Bingo, the police checked video of CD at la fitness, and that was it. Once they saw that he was there, they didn't check anything pertaining to CD. Seems they only wanted evidence that followed their theory, which never had CD as hiring a hit. IMO
I think you are right Sirensong. I like to watch Homicide Detective. He always says never just go with your first theory. You look up, down, side to side and all around. He says it almost always something more than meets the eye. I wish he had been working in Indy that morning.
Amanda knew something that could destroy people around her.
Did she have an STD from Davey that was discovered after routine prenatal testing?
Amanda was going to divorce Davey because he committed adultery.
Matthew 19:9
1 Corinthians 7
OT
Hi everyone. Have a look at this 1000 word face book post allegedly by Casey James Lawhorn, confessing to the murder of his mother and Avery, and threatening suicide.
OT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/8au0kz/guy_who_killed_his_mom_and_friend_just_made_a/?st=1Z141Z3&sh=bc6ea4e5
Casey James Lawhorn is on the run in Mississippi after allegedly writing a long facebook post confessing to the murder of his mother and a friend.
I think Casey James Lawhorn is dead, and his brother Chad, is the killer. The link above is to Casey James Lawhorn's face book post in its entirety.
Consider that Casey chose to type it, rather than speak directly on camera. Please also consider the type of language Casey uses, in particular, with reference to his brother, Chad Lawhorn. Let me know what you think.
OT continued. This is the brother, Chad's, bio, which has been updated to include Caseys alleged confession to double homicideand suicide. Please note. Casey has not been found yet! wtf? It's a bit premature, don't you think?
There is something very off with this case.
https://everipedia.org/wiki/chad-lawhorn/#seeAlsoPanel
PS Chad Lawton's facebook indicates that he has run to California and condolences are trickling in. To be clear. I think Chad murdered his mother, brother and friend, and also wrote the confession and suicide fb post, blaming his brother, Casey.
I think Casey's body will be found at the bottom of a lake.
Well they found him. Casey James Lawhorn IS dead. With an apparently self inflicted gun shot wound. I think the brother, Chad did it, and wrote the Facebook post. LE should compare Chads voice with the voice on the 911 call, confessing to murder.
Don't give me or my family your thoughts and prayers. No one will be hurt by this more than my brother, (Chad Lawhorn) He will probably need a lot of help getting through this, and if you think you are helping him just by talking to the sky, you're f---ing wrong. If you want to help him in this insanely difficult time I'm putting him through, actually do something, don't just think about it. I'm sorry to him more than anyone
That said, I don't want or need forgiveness from anyone. What I did is unforgivable. And prayer is a waste of time, nothing happens after death, but if there is a hell, I'm going to be in the lake of ice at the bottom.
Excerpt from the Facebook post.
As if Chad didn't write that himself. He may very well get away with triple murder by framing Casey. RIP Casey.
Peter, are you ever going to tell us what the Mesa Investigators said about Davey Blackburn?
I'd love to know what Mesa investigators said, too! I still can't come up with a reasonable explanation for all the coincidences and abnormalities of this case!
So Larry Taylor will not get the cell phone expert he asked for: https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/crime/larry-taylor-denied-request-to-hire-cellphone-experts-at-public-expense-in-amanda-blackburn-case
Haha murderer/rapist scumbag.
Just an fyi: If the cell phone records so obviously don't match up as people here say, he wouldn't need an expert to show that. The fact that he wanted the expert shows desperation because the cell records, among other things, will prove he was there when Amanda was shot. He wanted to show doubt that the pings are location accurate, not that the pings don't match the timeline. Too bad. He's going down.
Irrelevant to your personal views on this case, it isn't solely based on placing LT's cell phone pings/records. There is a great deal more to this case and IF it should make it to trial, all the anomalies surrounding the case will come to light, including the pings and whether or not they match up/place LT's location. Doesn't matter if they accommodate LT's experts or not, the court records will be rifled through with a fine tooth comb, making it difficult for either side "expert" to stretch the truth and it would open the door to future appeals.
I'm not sure why you would suggest he is "desperate" because he requested an expert to weigh in on his behalf, I found it to be rather clever and a bit telling given his prior (granted) request for Davey's unpublished disastrous flop of a "book". The book alone is going to raise eyebrows and after all is said and done, he only needs a shred of reasonable doubt to come up during the trial and in this case, it will definitely come up on an hourly basis. Unfortunate for Davey, but that's the breaks when you lie over and over.
Poor Kate. You want so badly for a "shred of reasonable doubt" to set Larry free to murder and rape again. You're going to be so disappointed when your "clever" boy is locked up for life. Sad face :(
I said "among other things" in my comment, so clearly I'm aware there is more to this case than the pings. There IS other evidence besides the cell records that will seal his fate.
Maybe after you mourn the conviction of your favorite murderous rapist, you can make more videos claiming the grieving parents of Sandy Hook are just actors and that all the dead children never existed. Because you really have your priorities straight. Lol.
Oh geeze. This case sure brings out the crazy. Let's try to be civil, shall we?
The trial will be interesting to say the least. If it is true, and I guess it is, that all the defense needs to acquit Larry Taylor and Diano Gordan, is to show a jury an alternative suspect, with the motive, means and opportunity, to murder Amanda Blackburn, then they should toss MG into the mix. For the record, I don't think she's involved, but she sure looks like she could be. I'm certain most jurors would agree that the Meg factor constitutes reasonable doubt of Diano and Larry's guilt.
Of course, we don't know everything the prosecution has, lets just wait and see.
http://www.thejuryexpert.com/2009/07/this-other-dude-did-it-a-test-of-the-alternative-explanation-defense/
Can you ever have a civil conversation? You do realize how foolish you look, don't you? None of your points will be made to anyone new coming in here, because you make yourself look absolutely ridiculous. Don't you want people to think you are sane and have valid points? It won't happen with your ten million user id's and childish behavior. Grow up.
I don't want reasonable doubt to come up, I want justice for Amanda Blackburn. If Larry Taylor is proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be guilty, by all means lock him up and throw away the key. However, despite your mocking and name calling, there is no disputing the amount of reasonable doubt in this case. Even if you pass up the cellphone records/pings altogether, you still have Davey's 50 minute phone conversation in the driveway, his 911 call, leaving the door open, not setting the alarm, video surveillance that may or may not be damaging, his flop book that has come back to bite him hard in the ass, potential affair(s), etc. etc. etc.
Initially, reporters asked le if the Blackburn's knew the perps, even went so far to say that was the word on the street, a strong suggestion that will be brought up by defense with potential evidence to back it up. This case, if it makes it to trial, will be a nightmare for the prosecution. Why do you think it's taken 2 and a half years? If it were so open and shut, it would have been wrapped up by now. Lord knows Davey's in no hurry to see any justice, only to forgive the men who brutally beat and murdered his wife and unborn child.
Kind of interesting that you seem to have quite a bit of disdain toward Larry Taylor, perhaps you should seek counsel with Davey and he could guide you toward forgiving Larry Taylor just as he has, that is what Davey wants for his young pupils.
"Can't you ever have a civil conversation" says the woman who accuses the grieving parents of murdered children of being fakes. Wow.
"You realize how foolish you look, don't you?" says the woman who spends all her time making whackadoodle conspiracy videos for other whackadoodle conspiracy theorist Sandy Hook "truthers."
You're completely lacking in self-awareness. No wonder you fit in so well with Bobcat and Frightful and the gang.
Davey not locking the door will not create reasonable doubt that Larry Taylor killed Amanda. Davey blabbering on the phone in the driveway will not create reasonable doubt that LT killed Amanda. None of us know what's in the book ... you're using your overly-fertile imagination on that one as usual.
"Video surveillance that may or may not be damaging"? How can something that might not be damaging create reasonable doubt? Lol. "Potential affairs"? Well, were there affairs or not? Show me proof.
The trial delays have all been caused by LT himself in his desperation to save his own neck. He waived his right to a speedy trial. If this trial were a nightmare for the prosecution, he would've wanted it to proceed right off the bat instead of giving them years to prepare. Duh. This case will be open and shut for the prosecution. Hide and watch.
Kind of interesting you have such a LACK of disdain for rapist/murderer Larry Taylor. Seems you're a lot like Davey. Yuck.
You're so obsessed with proving Davey's involvement that you're willing to give a pass to a murderous rapist. Do you understand how warped that is? I'm guessing no.
Is Davey still hitting the porn sites? Does Kristi have to babysit him like Amanda did? Or is he a big boy now and able to actually be a responsible husband/father? Lol, his legacy is turning out much differently than he anticipated, hopefully Kristi is taking the reigns when it comes to locking up the home and setting the alarm. We all know Davey's responsibilities consists of phone calls, working out at the gym and starbuck drinks. Oh and forgiving the killers, forgot that big one.
Nothing is wasted, including the 911 call that Davey placed that morning.
Hope your day gets better, maybe try to get out for a walk and catch some rays, it sounds like you could use some fresh air and exercise. Davey wants you to forgive the killers, fall in line and do as he says. Good luck!
And once again, a post someone wrote here - a question someone raised here - brings out the crazy and the insults. We should keep a list of which subjects bring out these individuals. Every overreaction like this one brings us that much closer to the truth.
Find the subjects that are sensitive, find the names mentioned and compare to what brings out the defensive posts. It's like a little trail this past two years.
If these cases were as open and shut as some want them to be, they would be finished already
And all the prosecution needs to do is point to another likely candidate who could have pulled the trigger on Amanda. Point to Davey's lies - he says Larry Taylor is the guy who actually pulled the trigger on Amanda - why believe Davey?
Creating reasonable doubt for "these guys" WILL involve shedding a great deal of light on Davey's suspect words, actions, lack of grief. His demeanor even in November 2015 was all but rejoicing. It will reveal the 911 call. I'm sure Davey will be asked why he cruised on the driveway for 50 minutes and had Kenneth Wagner tweet about his phone call with him for the first time ever. Dianne Moorman might even share her suspicions that Davey was involved - who knows.
Whether or not these guys get convicted of anything (and no I've said before they are not choirboys and it would be good if they were locked up if guilty of this crime or others), Davey is going to be exposed for the liar that he was then and continues to be today. In the process of creating reasonable doubt, what Davey has said and done will be fair game. He can't even keep track of his web of lies and misdirection.
Hide and watch. I thought it was "for us, we have nothing to hide" ?
Kate, if you're interested in Davey's porn habits, why don't you ask him? Surely you know how to email him or call him. And I'm sure he'd be glad to hear you've forgiven the killers and that you're praying they'll soon be free to rape and murder again.
Frightful, the news article I posted brought me here, you dolt. The "crazy" has always been here. Look in a mirror.
And I know you're tweaking your nipples at the thought that I'm Davey or someone else connected to this case, because you're desperate for his attention. If you want to pretend that I am in order to make you feel better about spending years of your empty life here saying the same crap over and over, go ahead.
None of Davey's behavior will erase LT's guilt. Too bad for you and your fantasies about LT being acquitted as Davey is dragged off in cuffs. Lol. Just think of all those comments you've made saying LT was framed and Davey shot Amanda (with Amber's help, no less). Embarrassing!
In this article, published today, they speak of Brittany McNew and her Mother, Michelle Lee who pushed for the new law sb203, regarding fetal homicide which was recently signed by Governor Holcomb. She helped to mandate a law for unborn fetuses.
In the same article, all they can point to with Davey is how forgiving he is against the three who brutally beat, robbed and murdered his wife and unborn child. This was deliberate, it shows how he gave not one iota since Amanda's death about anything other than his agenda to push forward his message of how grand he is, because he chose to forgive the killers in 2.2 seconds. What a stunning difference in human beings. It's also the same "loving" husband who couldn't even put a flyer up in town or donate some of the thousands of dollars he received to the reward money. What a thug. https://www.christianpost.com/news/indiana-charge-suspects-who-attack-pregnant-women-with-murder-if-unborn-baby-dies-222798/
"Two and a half years ago, I walked into my house on Sunnyfield Court to my worst nightmare. I was coming home from the gym, early, and walked in to find my wife face down on the floor in a pool of blood. And that was the start of a valley that I never thought that I'd have to go through. It's one of those things that you'd always say, that stuff happens to other people, that doesn't happen to us, especially, especially those of us who are serving God," he said.
From the article linked above.
What does SA say about "I was coming home from the gym" versus " I came home from the gym"? I can't quite put my finger on it.
Also the word "early". Is it a NTP? Crazy Davey has said that he was up early, and that he liked to go the gym early. This is the first time I've heard him say that he came home, early.
Great point Kate @ 3:31. Davey Blackburn has not made a stand against gang violence, or the rights of murdered fetuses, despite having been given the platform. He hasn't even done a PSA, warning people to lock their doors. What does Davey Blackburn's "full frontal assault on hatred and bitterness using love and kindness and forgiveness" actually look like in practical terms? What's he doing?
A whole lotta nothing.
"I started realizing that if I continue to let bitterness and hatred fuel everything that I do, then it's going to perpetuate, blow up everybody that I care about around me. My son's going to perpetuate bitterness and hatred. My staff's going to perpetuate bitterness and hatred. My friends, everything, and it's going to start this cycle. And so the way that I stop that cycle, the ways that I stop generational cycles, is that I have a full frontal assault against bitterness and hatred with love and kindness and forgiveness, and that, friends, is how we become dangerous against darkness," he said.
In my opinion, bitterness and hatred have a place. Why not feel bitterness and hatred? at least towards the sin of murder/feticide, if not for the sinner.?
Anyway, to me, it looks like like crazy d is deliberately confusing the desire for justice and social change, with hatred and bitterness. The desire for justice for murder victims, is not hatred and bitterness. To conflate those concepts is a way for Davey to shirk responsibility for Amanda, the unborn baby, as well as his wider responsibility to society as a whole.
If Davey was not complicit in Amands murder, you can bet your bottom dollar he'd be screaming about vengeance (not just Justice) from morning until night. His silence (and eagerness to forgive) speaks loudly to his guilt.
Too bad for Davey that many of his sermons contain anecdotes of his bad temper, his desire for an Old Testament God who would smite his enemies, and his eye for an eye mentality.
He said that he refused to speak to Amanda for 3 days because she had accidentally dented his BBQ grill.
He said that "Braveheart" was "coming alive" for him in the aftermath of Amanda's murder. (A movie about vengeance for a murdered wife).
To say that he forgives Amanda's murderers, in fact, forgave them before they were even arrested, is, therefore, in stark contrast to his very nature. It is in contradiction to his character.
This, from Ralph Waldo Emerson sums it up nicely. — 'Don't say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary.'
Exactly Trudy. And all of this is just based on the very little we do know - can you imagine what bombshells will drop if it goes to court? Especially that 911 call that they've been lucky enough to keep under wraps for 2.5 years.
In my opinion, the neighborhood surveillance video(s) will be important. If they show Davey's driveway, it will be interesting to see if Davey remained in the car the entire time. He can't sit still for five minutes, as he often states, yet he sat in his car for over 50 minutes without having to stretch the legs? Interesting and difficult to conceive. Also to see if he had passed by LT while LT was out for his morning stroll, wide open in the neighborhood, talking loudly on the phone, did everything he could to draw attention to himself and made sure he was a visible citizen that morning. A little too convenient and controlled for me.
In the next few months, I wouldn't be surprised to hear KB's pregnant. I'm figuring a pregnancy is inevitable given the way the cards are falling for Davey. It will add to his "testimony" and the manipulations can continue to grow.
I wonder why Davey was booked to go to SC tonight, on the eve of the pretrial conference where the state has to put up or get slapped with contempt?
#flightrisk
Davey's written a new blog post about his 2nd trip to Israel in the 2 years since Amanda's murder.
From the blog. “Why is this trip different, Lord? Why is it lacking the same feelings I had before?” I asked out loud. Just then, as I stared at the muddy waters of the Jordan River looking for clarity through these muddy emotions, I felt the Lord nudge me.
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Too bad the Lord didn't nudge him a bit harder, face first into the river.
"I'll be Mawmaw and tell the truth of what happened on Monday nite"
Yes, Davey, the one who walked in to see his wife shot three times, naked and beaten up was the FIRST to call us all to forgive them. What a swell guy! I personally would hope my hubby would fight to the end to justice for me. He also did NOTHING to help find the killers while the neighborhood met, prayed and kept in constant contact with the police. Davey skipped town and started his Nothing is Wasted site, did a media blitz and got on Inside Edition. SHortly after, ran to the dealership and bought a 50,000 car in cash. His neighbors won an award for their hard work on supposedly finding the killers. Davey was invited but didn't even respond to the invite. Yes, Davey is awesome!! How dare any of us question him
It's notable how often "Mawmaw" and "laundry" are repeated together on chatzy.
Really Bobcat?
What, sirensong?
Chatzy = reams of leakage by insiders.
Is that an admission, Bobcat?
What, mom2many?
Exactly what my kids say when they are caught deep in it, Bobcat.
Is Bobcat fabricating? Have a look. Funny how she insinuates but doesn't leave a link for others to decide.
http://www.chatzy.com/52262130095040
I'm not interested in Chatzy.
I’m having trouble following Chatzy. Anyone else prefer SA?
That works, Jude.
Chatzy appeals to my millennial sensibilities.
Loyalties, you know. Call me old fashioned. :)
Not that there are many rule-followers here but FYI:
Chatzy limitations of use: "Invitations may only be sent to people who know the sender and only for the purpose of inviting these people for a chat."
Bobcat is, and always will be, full of sh*t and living in a bizarre fantasy world where she's one of the key players in this case. It's fascinating. Like a train wreck, I can't look away.
I think it's a shame the conversation has gone off site - that must be good news in Davey's quarters, though. Still, it has not much or often been of SA here, so Chatzy might be more appropriate to those who do just want to chat.
How does that go, Bobcat - Chatzy owner identifies and invites known insiders, who all accept and obligingly volunteer reams of valuable 'insider' information? Sounds unlikely, but there you go.
It was a worthwhile diversion, but a diversion nonetheless.
1st round of depositions tomorrow.
I wonder if anyone will be asked about Amanda's condition on 11/9/15.
Any one know who Larry is deposing? Should be interesting!
OT, but Peter's recent video has me thinking about adult victims of childhood sexual abuse and how opening doors comes into language.
It also makes me think of the 'purity' culture. How does that work if a perfect christian pastors daughter has been abused in her childhood? Why does anyone need to know about any young woman's 'first' ANYTHING? It's nobody's business; intrusive and disgusting ... and if a woman has been abused, does that mean she can never be "pure" ... or will she become a brilliantly skilled liar to fit into the fetishized ideal?
It really bugs me that that was something that Davey bragged about Amanda in the Love Song series. It's sick and twisted.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/09/elizabeth-smart-purity-culture-shames-survivors-sexual-assault
Hey Jude wrote
I think it's a shame the conversation has gone off site - that must be good news in Davey's quarters, though. Still, it has not much or often been of SA here, so Chatzy might be more appropriate to those who do just want to chat.
Hey Jude, I liked your insight and thoughts and I look here often to see what has been posted. I understand for sure that it's your choice whether to enter the open Chatzy room or not. If you ever came over and posted there as well, you would not be the first one who entered under a different name than we would recognize.
There is a lot more going on over there than just chat though - especially in the private room. Things are being shared in that room that would make Davey feel sick and definitely more paranoid than he already is - instead of dangerous.
Nobody should believe the cause is finished, the case is locked up and that nobody is trying anymore just because so many of us are in this random chat room now and not on the SA board as often.
Many of us still read and sometimes post here.
But iIndeed, exponentially more is happening behind the scenes over there than would ever have happened had we stayed over here.
Sort of like Amanda impacting exponentially more people for Christ in her death than she E V E R would have been able to if she had lived.
Chatzy offers a much more collaborative space with instant feedback and real time discussions. I think significant progress is being made there. Those who haven't made the leap yet should consider it. Since tex paid for premium (thanks tex!), we can also private message one another which has been great for forming 'real life' friendships.
Nothing happening there that you are willing or able to share here, Flightful?
What does 'progress' mean?
Hey Jude: not directed at me, but I'll attempt an answer.
The public chatzy room has been great for real time conversation and quicker discourse. It's more conducive to fleshing out ideas and theories. Anybody is welcome to join and see what's happening in there.
The private room is a different animal entirely. A handful of us have exchanged our real identities and have been having both in person and virtual meetings. I think it's fair to say that we've made progress, but the things happening there are far too intertwined with each of us personally, and also nothing will be posted bc we don't want to tip anyone off.
The comment strings here may be drying up, but I'd argue that the fight for justice for Amanda has intensified significantly since we've been having our private meetings as real, transparent, and out people. And good god, d-loc can drink me under the table.
Well, thanks for the info. I find it discourteous how the 'mother ship' blog was largely and almost instantly abandoned in view of Peter's hosting of the conversation here since Amanda's murder.
How it looked: Peter did not make a new Blackburn post or share what the Mesa investigators said about Davey Blackburn, so some of you took umbrage and stomped off. Flightful came back to post this:
'TX Lurker has set up multiple chat rooms - including private ones - for us to discuss this case to our heart's content, unmolested and unridiculed and uncensored and unmoderated. We drink together, we scheme, we share theories and pass information on to the media and law enforcement, we laugh and poke fun at Davey and his lies - '
If that's what some of you want to do, it is - my interest is in SA.
In court today, depositions were cancelled.
Instead, Larry filed a Notice of Discovery Compliance.
Peter has, on multiple occasions, shared his dismay at what has been posted in the Blackburn threads, as well as the view that those particularly attached to the case are not likely to enroll. He has been beyond generous not to lock us out of these threads altogether. The number of comments available here are limited. As such, with the trials seemingly no closer to beginning, it seems prudent to carry on discussion where we will not intrude on Peter's work, and will leave space available to return when trials happen. I see nothing discourteous about it. Quite the opposite. There hasn't been genuine, disciplined statement analysis in the comments here for a long time. Why should we continue to detract from Peter's discipline, with our theories and opinions, and subject his teaching to being viewed as quackery?
Hey Jude, we definitely didn't stomp off in anger. I didn't stomp off at all -I don't think anyone else stomped off either - more like migrated. I watched there for a long time before I entered the room to write something, not sure about engaging. I'm still here watching and sometimes posting, although far more of my attention and time is spent there now because it's a more productive environment at this time.
I was absolutely so disappointed that Peter teased (it was teasing in a way, for sure) that there was information from Mesa AZ investigators taking about Davey - he actually said "more later" - but more never came. Perhaps that's because Peter is involved actively in the case right now and has been for some time, hence the reason he cannot engage and share more. He always said if he was actively working a case, he would not comment.
But my reason for straying, if you can call it that, is that I was tired of the trolls here attempting to derail the discussion and ridicule us who are only trying to find out the truth. It was said so many times that this is Statement Analysis board and our "theories" were not SA. But we had so many people reacting to statements - it was always fun to see what brought them out, which statements ticked them off and made them defend and attempt to discredit so strongly.
I agree with mom2many that it is prudent to carry on in an atmosphere where we won't take away from Peter's work - it does seem to be the courteous thing to do. Plus which, in the private rooms, things are being discussed which should not be discussed here on an open board.
Here's hoping Peter will return to let us know about Mesa - I know there are many of us who would like closure on that statement.
I agree with the point about trolling. It has also been interesting to note when lurkers enter and exit the chat and don't post. We don't have that kind of feedback here. I am sympathetic to lurkers. I tend to do so on most places I read, but this case does make you wonder. If anyone prefers to lurk, an occasional, "hi," would be welcome.
Well, thanks for the belated explanations, Flightful and Mom2Many. It all sounds very admirable and considerate now, but I won't be lurking.
Tip: I think it would not be too advisable to give your personal information to people whose purpose is characterised as drinking, scheming and poking fun at people.
Also, I think Dossier Writer already did most of the leg work, and that the police are not stupid and they wanted justice for Amanda before anyone here even knew about Amanda, and that is unlikely to have changed.
Sorry to be a bit snarky.
Dossier Writer is with us over there !
The purpose is to find justice for Amanda, to be sure the truth is revealed to those who can make a difference - and then waiting for them to make their move . . . not to drink, scheme and poke fun. Although we do that as well.
The drinking is for fun when Davey uses certain words in his appearances (my drink is Coke Zero) - I'll leave the scheming out of it but it has to do with catching this guy in his lies - and poking fun is necessary to maintain sanity after we've spent hours sharing information and watching videos and transcribing and discussing this tragic case.
Plus which anyone who dresses like Davey does and has hair like he does is literally begging for someone to poke fun at him.
Yes, I assumed Dossier Writer was there. That sounds better - not sharing your transcripts here, though? Whatever. I'm glad it"s only Coke. :)
Also fair game for someone to draw the attention of the fun-pokers - -
- Someone who honestly expects ANYONE to believe that he honestly had no idea anyone had been in his house, given the description of the living room and of Amanda in the Affidavit of Probable Cause discussing the case - with earbuds, credit cards, change scattered around - a lamp and ladder turned over - a Swisher Sweet package on the kitchen counter that HE said did not belong in their residence - and Amanda with her shirt pulled up and underwear off.
- Someone who honestly expects ANYONE to believe that his first honest thought was that we just lost the baby right here, but um, if we just get her to the hospital she's gonna be ok, given the fact that Amanda was lying in a pool of blood from bullet wounds to her left arm, right upper back/shoulder and severe head trauma to the back of her skull - multiple upper teeth knocked out - bruised and beaten to the point that her own brother-in-law wouldn't have recognized her if not for other family in the room.
C'MON - seriously ! Do you think people are f-ing stupid Davey ?
I don't think any full transcripts have been done. Partials have been posted back here. Check the thread, you'll see. I'm supposed to be working on parts of the initial two press conferences, but real-life has gotten in the way.
Recently, I realized that as JW had no phone by which they could track his movements, his testimony is worthless. There is no way to prove he was with LT in the home. If his eye-witness testimony is impeachable, we are left to either DNA or prints (finger, foot) in the home to place him there, or Amanda's DNA somewhere on him. Since there was no announcement that his DNA was discovered when testing came back in Dec, I tend to believe it's not there. The case against LT looks weaker and weaker, at least from the perspective of what is known.
I like the chat format because it lends easily to back and forth debate to work out holes, errors, faulty assumptions, etc. Trudy and I had a great session the other night. She's been playing prosecutor pretty well. I'm not sure what role I play. The jury? I don't want to defend LT, but I do want to see the evidence from all sides.
Hey Jude- I'm still here and regularly checking in too, for what it's worth. I'm interested in the Statement Analysis of Amanda's case. Words are what they are, whereas emotions can color all kinds of things all kinds of shades. Words don't lie; people do.
The whole concept of the subconscious and a person's conscience outing them is fascinating and I see it regularly confirmed in my own experience. I'm a much better listener these days. Today, I found myself stalling, uncomfortable...not wanting to lie, but unwilling to confirm a hard truth because I knew it would seriously wound the innocent daughter-in-law who asked (and angry at the mother-in-law perpetrating the lie for her behavior, the lie itself, and putting me in that position). I hedged, not answering the question directly, carefully (and slowly) choosing my words.
Hey Fools, me too - I haven't listened to much of Davey lately, avoided Resonate, for the time it takes - I tried his most recent podcast today, but it turned out I wasn't listening.
I read an article, forgotten where, about subconscious bias, and how it is maybe a bit pointless for businesses and organisations to hold training sessions to try to make people more aware of their unconscious bias, as the problem is that if it's unconscious it's likely to stay that way - you can only really try to adjust a conscious bias - not sure what to think of that. I'm sure I have had unconscious biases which became conscious when I was made aware of them - or maybe they were always conscious, just not acknowledged or owned. Bias doesn't have to be a negative, anyway.
Mom2Many - the first press conference is what makes me think they are not going to let Amanda's murder go or an injustice be done. I'd like to read the transcripts if you get them done. There was no announcement about the results of the forensic tests, just that they were expected to take months - the results would only be made generally known at the trial. I wouldn't be convinced it was LT if there were incriminating prints only on the bottles at the neighbour's home, and/or on the Swisher sweets pack as those could have been planted. For what happened to Amanda, her murderer's DNA would have been on Amanda, her clothing, and all over the place.
I'd think Davey should be keen for the trial to go ahead ASAP if, as he says, he has nothing to hide - I know he didn't actually say that and it was "we have nothing to hide".
Yes, add lack of push for justice for Amanda to the file of DB's unexpected behavior, a file which is overflowing.
There will need to be corroborating evidence for any CI or other witness statements to be convincing. That evidence should include DNA, prints, fibers in the Blackburn home, and/or similar on LT, his shoes, clothes, etc. It took weeks for the arrest, but I bet he kept at least his shoes, or some other articles he wore that day.
I pray for a satisfying conclusion, not just some questionable testimonies and convenient appearance of evidence on the bottles or swisher sweets, as you pointed out HJ.
The only thing DB cares about in relation to the trial is his book being published. I love that his book is on hold for a little thing called Justice For Amanda! haha Davey!
Larry Jo Taylor, Jr.
4/23/18 Administrative Event
Order granting motion to take depositions at public expensive emailed to parties and mailed to defendant.
I wonder who is on the new list?
KRISTY MONROY ! ! ! perhaps?
See the post from today in the open Chatzy room. . .
All of Larry's depositions were cancelled today.
Reason: other.
What are the new developments? I’m having trouble sitting through Chatzy.
Jalen Watson
04/27/2018
Status Conference
Session: 04/27/2018 1:00 PM, Judicial Officers: Hawkins, Grant W; Hart, Peggy R-MAG
Comment: Attorneys only (factual taken 10/27/2017 and PSI already ordered) possible pick sentencing date
Diano Cortez Gordon
05/18/2018
Pretrial Conference
Session: 05/18/2018 9:00 AM, Judicial Officers: Hawkins, Grant W; Hart, Peggy R-MAG
Larry jo Taylor
03/05/2018
Hearing Scheduling Activity
Final PreTrial Conference scheduled for 06/06/2018 at 9:00 AM was cancelled. Reason: Other.
03/06/2018
Automated ENotice Issued to Parties
Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 3/5/2018 : Jeffrey Scott Neel;Mark Hollingsworth Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 3/5/2018 : Jeffrey Scott Neel;Mark Hollingsworth Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 3/5/2018 : Jeffrey Scott Neel;Mark Hollingsworth
06/06/2018
CANCELED Final PreTrial Conference
Reason: Other
Session: 06/06/2018 9:00 AM, Cancelled
I can't see anything about LJT for today. Link?
Larry Jo Taylor.
04/26/2018
CANCELED Pretrial Conference
Reason: Other
Session: 04/26/2018 1:00 PM, Cancelled
Comment: Hearing room d from 9-noon and again from 1-4pm
04/26/2018
Hearing Scheduling Activity
Pretrial Conference scheduled for 04/26/2018 at 9:00 AM was cancelled. Reason: Other.
I was looking at Larry Jo Taylor's other murder charges (Hernandez instead of Blackburn.). My mistake.
That's not saying LT's depositions were canceled, just the pretrial conference. The pretrial conference is to hear motions in limine (like requesting certain testimony be excluded, etc) and other pretrial motions. It is also used to go over witness lists and exhibits. Since LT asked for and received a continuance, it makes sense that the pretrial motion would be canceled and set for a date that is closer to trial.
Bobcat, are you the same Bobcat in Chatzy? You seem like two different people in SA and Chatzy.
Anon @ 1:03PM - Thank you for clearing that up.
https://www.wthr.com/article/amanda-blackburn-murder-suspect-pleading-guilty-to-robbery-burglary
In the private Chatzy room, a different poster linked the same article as Kate and pointed out the last sentence (bold below) and noted that the person who wrote that article knows Davey is involved.
Amanda was married to local pastor Davey Blackburn and was pregnant when she was attacked in her home.
Statistics don't lie.
And look at this Twitter, thanks to the same poster -
Amanda Blackburn murder suspect pleading guilty to robbery, burglary. Because it is hard to get a murder charge when the husband's selling his book about it. Hint, hint. Nudge, Nudge. #WTHR #DaveyBlackburn
https://www.wthr.com/article/amanda-blackburn-murder-suspect-pleading-guilty-to-robbery-burglary … via @WTHRcom
https://twitter.com/JJ_Bristow/status/989939117059379201
Something
Is
Happening
NOTHING about this case is random.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/indiana-charge-suspects-who-attack-pregnant-women-with-murder-if-unborn-baby-dies-222798/
"Something
Is
Happening"
perhaps:
ser·en·dip·i·ty
ˌserənˈdipədē/Submit
noun
the occurrence and development of events by chance in a happy or beneficial way.
"a fortunate stroke of serendipity"
synonyms: (happy) chance, (happy) accident, fluke; More
one can hope.....grasshopper
"We don't know exactly what happened, um, but there was a struggle, because th-the room was torn apart." Phil Byars
Phil's story - 9:00 minute mark
https://www.cedarville.edu/Chapel/Watch/good-good-father/oTjpxgSIm0ytNub5gC3svA
Direct conflict with Davey's version.
What happened to Amanda Blackburn on 11/9/15 was medieval, hidden behind the castle facade of polished modern "Christianity".
Her oxcart was a black SUV.
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"Buddy" 11/19/15:
"It's small consolation in the grand scheme but Yes, we're gonna fry these bastards."
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/amanda-blackburn-murder-q-part-two.html?showComment=1447960008618#c6827665962878158260
They are discussing the case tonight on the show "Dancing with Ghosts" at 10:15 EST. They are first going to discuss Delphi and then discuss Amanda:
https://www.facebook.com/latalkradio/
https://www.facebook.com/rebeccatfearing/videos/10156327116594803/
If you missed the show last night, you can view it again here.
I can't view it. ^
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Been lurking here for a while. Nothing to contribute but a big thank you to those who continue to labor for justice for Amanda.
silver
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/we-flipped-a-house
Repulsive.
Who else but crazy Davey could do something so obviously for the purpose of profiteering whilst insisting he's doing it for altruistic reasons?
Talk about pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining.
Tidy.
I found some interesting usage involving dropped pronouns and "word", as used by Davey, his mother, and our disdainful angry and occasionally anonymous poster "Brenda".
In at least four retellings of his time between 4:30 and 6:11 AM on 11/10/15, Davey says he, always with a dropped pronoun, "(X) spent some time in the word."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html
When Jono wrote his "One Year Ago" blog in 11/2016, he quoted a text from his mother, who also drops a pronoun: "(X) Just got word that her blood pressure is dropping - we need to keep praying."
http://apotheolotics.blogspot.com/2016/11/one-year-ago_12.html
Disdainful Brenda/Angry Anon 6/2017:
"No....you wait for word from peter, then you run with it."
https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2017/06/lyn-balfour-statement-on-death-of-her.html?commentPage=3
There is one degree of separation between the Byars and former Gov. of Indiana Mike Pence.
Jim Bontrager (friends with Robin Byars on facebook)
https://www.outreach.com/events/christian-speakers/Jim-Bontrager.aspx
Was a 'courtesy' extended on behalf of the Byars in the premature '100% clearing' of Davey and family members?
Thinking about trudy and M2m chatzy discussion from April, regarding "death during the commission of a string of felonies is felony murder"
If Amanda was shot on 11/9/15, well before the "string" of burglaries began on 11/10/15, and the "string" was really a line of baited crab pots leading the burglars to Amanda's languishing soul ... they were set up to take the fall.
An incredible storyline for sure, but there is no way to ever sell it as true without making Indiana LE and 'Poster Christians' look evil and as racist as the day is long.
I hate to say it, but like so many murder victims, Amanda is better off free from all of them. IMO.
HJ, someone named "t" (Bobcat???), has been going off on you on the chatzy board, for some reason. "T" has been posting excerpts of your comments from way back and insinuating that you know Amanda's friends and family. Very bizarre, as I think you live in England and not a small town in Indianapolis, IN.
http://us21.chatzy.com/52262130095040
Diano Gordon has made a plea deal for burglary and robbery. Murder charges dropped.
http://fox59.com/2018/05/23/second-suspect-in-amanda-blackburn-case-agrees-to-plea-deal-wont-face-murder-charges/
golden boy aka Davey, if you or your friends are reading here - although your blog might've disappeared, all of your blog posts were archived in their totality - forever preserved for use as evidence and proof of your lack of grief about, and justification for, Amanda's murder - including your long-winded blog post explanation of how and WHEN you and Kristi met (although you conveniently and totally left out the part about you guys being members of the same LA Fitness location on Shore Drive long before you mentioned seeing her at Crossfit).
What goes around comes around - prepare yourself. Even Jono knows things are not as they seem, as you wanted them portrayed.
There are far more than enough people vested in justice for Amanda who have made multiple transcriptions and screenshots and copies and printouts of the shit you've written and said this past two and a half years, your attempting to explain away and actually glorify this murder.
How different could it have been if you had just been quiet and grieved like you had really loved Amanda.
How different could it have been if you had told 911 dispatcher that someone had invaded your house and your wife was in extremely critical condition and to please send investigators along with paramedics/medical support. EMTs arrived at your house expecting to tend to someone who had fallen from a ladder and was knocked out/unconscious from the fall - not the gunshot wounds and injuries they found with Amanda lying in an active crime scene.
The impression YOU gave to Robin Byars and Perry Noble (to name at least two people, there are more) was that Amanda had "collapsed", "fallen", "hit her head" - you have also said multiple times that you thought something was wrong with the pregnancy and/or that you had just lost the baby, too - yet you didn't mention that to any of these people. NONE of their reports of what they were told say anything about losing the baby - yet you said multiple times that this was your first honest thought when you walked in and saw THAT SCENE?
Pointing out to Robin that maybe she fell from the ladder - that wasn't smart - when the EMTs who walked into the scene are going to describe exactly what they saw as observers, along with their medical insight as to how Amanda's multiple injuries could have been inflicted.
The more you've talked, the deeper of a hole you've dug, the larger the web of lies you've spun - about what you saw, what you thought, when you first met Kristi, your reasons for doing the things you've done. You can't even remember the stories to keep them straight anymore. But the internet always remembers - even if blogs have been taken down, the words remain.
Did a lawyer advise you to remove your blog posts, I wonder ? It's not like you would've updated your site during the daytime, with thousands of people queuing up to purchase your "pillars of wisdom" e book. You never would've wanted to cut off access to that during daylight hours.
So. . .
DB releases a new book and the first thing he says about Amanda suggests she's an idiot. Nice. I thought what he really wanted us to know about her was her love for Jesus? Nah, let's show how ridiculous she could be. Priority.
https://www.daveyblackburn.com/blog/thriving-in-trial
"I couldn’t believe it! She was trying to power up a printer that wasn’t connected to the power source! Now, I know that seems funny and ridiculous when it comes to electronics but it becomes a sobering illustration when you think about how often we do this in our own lives. How many times do you and I try to operate life in power without being connected to the power source—Jesus?"
I noticed that too mom2many. I wonder how a comparison of stupidity would work out when Davey tries to explain why he said, what he said, on the 911 call. He's had enough play time, creeping up to 3 years of playtime, it's time to own up to his own stupidity. They can stall as long as they want, sooner or later that 911 call WILL be released and then the full circle of stupidity will be brought to light and Davey will be completely exposed for the lying, manipulating, conning, hateful monster that he is.
By his own admission, he just "sat there", no pressure to the wounds, no 911 op telling him how to care for her and her wounds? This call will help LT tremendously, hope he's had a chance to listen to it by now.
Maybe the 911 call is what is on the disk they failed to give LT the password to the other day!
Interesting info uncovered. The CI was not Diano Gordon. It was some guy named Darnell Gilbert that was with the suspects that morning. About to get interesting
The Chatzy rooms are jamming ! - especially the private one.
Credit to CJ for the transcript below -
This is from Davey's most recent appearance (I refuse to call his thundering and ranting and pacing and self-glorification and talking about Weston's toilet training pitfalls / fails as a "sermon") -
http://www.redcedarchurch.com/under-the-...
12:28
Davey: Can I be very transparent with you for a second? Um, I feel stuck in the middle of a process right now. I took a walk two days ago, we were in Minneapolis I walked from my hotel over to the Mall of America and I just was frustrated, I’m like God, I’m in a process right now and I don’t know what you’re doing in this process. I have a book that’s set to release at some point but Amanda’s trial has to be completely finished in order for us to release this book and I really wanna’ help a lot of people I think it will, an, by releasing this book and being able to share with people our story, but it’s stuck, and the reason it’s stuck is because the guy who killed Amanda, the was [sic] 18-year-old boy, now 20-year-old man, has decided he’s gonna’ to represent himself and he’s dragging out this process as long as he possibly can. You ever feel frustrated in the process? God, I, there’s something I know you’ve called me to do, but I’m not there yet. What do you do in the middle of the process?
MY hotel. Weren't you staying there with your wife Kristi? What happened to "our" / ours - this soon into your newly-minted marriage? Are you really already back to "my" whatever ? - just like when you said those guys broke into "my" house (not yours and Amanda's) ?
Kristi should see the writing on the wall - you'll never change. You're disparaging Weston who trusts you - how long can Kristi and Natalia hope to remain immune from your rage and insults?
I would love to see Statement Analysis of that transcript above - others in the Chatzy room would, too. Thanks again very much to CJ for taking the time (and making the effort to actually LISTEN repeatedly) to transcribe.
Nice try Davey with the Instastory of you and Weston in the car - trying to look all so close and chummy - - with you saying "I missed you, buddy" and being all so friendly and nice to him.
Boy time and girl time huh - you're telling him Kristi's with "Talia" and you're with me / I'm with you. Bullshit. What if you just *didn't* talk about his bathroom habits for a month when you are onstage at International House of Pancakes or (my favorite) the Pipefitters and Plumbers Union #247 monthly meeting.
Weston is not even four years old - but he can tell when he's being strung along. And it's way more confusing to him if you're talking shit about him one minute and being nice the next. I would rather someone be as mean as a snake to me every time we interact than have it be so two-faced. . . like you are to him.
Nice timing posting it too, just after you were called out for making fun of him and sharing his toilet training fails to your audience of however many at Red Cedar - so sorry it's not thousands hanging on your every word around the globe just yet.
Maybe if that book comes out - YEAH that's the ticket. But I don't think Simon & Schuster want to take a chance on being part of your story - because your story is not as it seems (as you would LIKE it to seem).
Davey: Can I be very transparent with you?
Why, yes, crazy Davey, you can be transparent. We can see right through you!
I thought the purpose of the trial iwas to get justice for Amanda, not a marketing tool to promote your book. You forgive Larry Taylor for mudering your pregnant wife, but not for delaying the release of Nothing is Wasted? Nice.
http://us21.chatzy.com/52262130095040
Viv come join us in the public Crazy Davey Chatzy discussion room, if you'd like !
I still can't get over him using the Karate Kid movie in his latest traveling preacher gig. I love Mr. Miyagi as much as the next person, but this guy grew up in a pastor's home, became a pastor and the best grab he has is the Karate Kid?
Wax on, wax off Daveyson, you're still toast.
What happened at 6:56 AM on 11/9/15?
UNBELIEVABLE! He is unbelievable! No call for justice, just get this trial over so I can release my crap book?! WOW. Also, Weston is in crisis. He is not potty trained, holds it in for weeks at a time and smears his feces all over the walls? I just wish they had detained Davey in the beginning like they should have done. Weston would be with Amber, in a safe loving environment and Weston would not have all of this trauma of living with a psychopath. Davey may say that Weston is totally over Amanda and never asks for her, but he is wrong. That hole in his heart will never go away and top it off with such an unloving, selfish Dad, the poor boy is in a stressed state. Why did they not bring Davey in for questioning the first minutes after this happened. It could have been cleared up so fast. Davey is a horrible liar and can't even keep his stories straight to this day!
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UNBELIEVABLE! He is unbelievable! No call for justice, just get this trial over so I can release my crap book?! WOW. Also, Weston is in crisis. He is not potty trained, holds it in for weeks at a time and smears his feces all over the walls? I just wish they had detained Davey in the beginning like they should have done. Weston would be with Amber, in a safe loving environment and Weston would not have all of this trauma of living with a psychopath. Davey may say that Weston is totally over Amanda and never asks for her, but he is wrong. That hole in his heart will never go away and top it off with such an unloving, selfish Dad, the poor boy is in a stressed state. Why did they not bring Davey in for questioning the first minutes after this happened. It could have been cleared up so fast. Davey is a horrible liar and can't even keep his stories straight to this day!
Please provide links for the above claims; particularly re the child.
Peter
Peter, Davey repeatedly speaks about Weston's toilet training fails and mistakes - he mentions it virtually every time he speaks - but this is the most revealing and disparaging instance yet.
The reference to Weston's holding in his feces and smearing it on the walls while he and Kristi and Natalia were getting ready to go to Natalia's ballet recital (at a time when Davey was trying to make a good first impression on Kristi, early on) was this past Sunday at Red Cedar Church in Wisconsin - video link here - start at 3:40 into the video
http://www.redcedarchurch.com/under-the-hood/under-the-hood-week-1/
Regarding Davey's mindset of "getting this trial over with so I can release my book" -
Kate and CJ transcribed this portion of the above-linked video, starting at 12:28 into it -
12:28
Davey: Can I be very transparent with you for a second? Um, I feel stuck in the middle of a process right now. I took a walk two days ago, we were in Minneapolis I walked from my hotel over to the Mall of America and I just was frustrated, I’m like God, I’m in a process right now and I don’t know what you’re doing in this process. I have a book that’s set to release at some point but Amanda’s trial has to be completely finished in order for us to release this book and I really wanna’ help a lot of people I think it will, an, by releasing this book and being able to share with people our story, but it’s stuck, and the reason it’s stuck is because the guy who killed Amanda, the was [sic] 18-year-old boy, now 20-year-old man, has decided he’s gonna’ to represent himself and he’s dragging out this process as long as he possibly can. You ever feel frustrated in the process? God, I, there’s something I know you’ve called me to do, but I’m not there yet. What do you do in the middle of the process?
Regarding Weston's never asking for Amanda -
Davey posted this to his blog on April 22, 2016 - fourth paragraph, right after the words "Let me explain" -
At the same time, Weston was young enough when everything happened that he doesn’t understand Amanda’s absence. Somewhere between month 15 (when we lost Amanda) and month 20 (when I’m writing this) Weston formed the ability to understand when someone is absent from his life. My parents tell me while I was in Israel he asked about me incessantly. He never asks for Amanda. I can’t explain this, other than when she was killed his cognitive memory hadn’t developed enough to remember that she was present. So now he doesn’t necessarily feel her absence.
https://www.daveyblackburn.com/blog/how-is-weston-doing
Larry Taylor's defense should use this video to point out Davey did not care about justice for the murder of his wife and unborn child, he only cared to push his book to break through to his self proclaimed success. Using his own words, it would not be hard to prove to a jury that Davey's only concerned with Davey and it has been this way before, during and after Amanda's murder - hence the two out of three plea deals that they were "pleased" with.
This is his latest "sermon" at Red Cedar Church, where he opens up with a lecture about the growing church and to not get used to it, to look at it like a child who looks at their first fireworks. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, his numbers continue to dwindle. https://vimeo.com/274405090
That can be arranged ^
is there a link and time where he actually said his child smeared his feces on the wall?
https://vimeo.com/274405090 Start around the 6:00 mark.
https://vimeo.com/274405090
Transcript re Weston - skip to 6:40 portion for smearing on wall, skip to 7:40 for holding it in for two weeks and the air of shame from Davey's punishment of him - -
5:50
And then we enrolled him in a school this past year where they said hey, he needs to be potty trained - he was the youngest one in his class and so everybody else was potty trained, and he wasn’t yet, but I was like it’s all, it’s ok.
I’m gonna send him off to my mom, Nana, is what we call her, and she is a, the DEAN of Early Childhood Development at a community college in Brevard, North Carolina - she will take, if ANYBODY can take care of this, she can take care of this.
So I send him off for a week, to Nana, and I’m tellin you two days into it, she’s got him dialed in, completely potty trained. I think she maybe did the boot camp thing, where he’s like runnin around naked all the time, right -and like, they went out in public and he’s runnin around naked and it’s like “don’t worry about it, he’s just potty trainin, it’s all good right?” And so she’s got him dialed in, completely, sends him back to me after this week I’m like “sweet, my work’s done, thanks mom, 'ppreciate that" - I was a single dad at the time, I could’ve used the help, absolutely.
6:40
And the first day back - I kid you not - the first day back, I am at the time dating Kristi, trying to make a really good impression, her daughter was doing a ballet recital and so we’re like rushin, we’re gonna show up and Kristi tells me “whatever you do, you cannot show up late”. I’m like “ok”, so I’m gettin up and I’m gettin Weston all ready to go, whatever, and I leave him there and, I go and, I get myself ready an, I’m kinda managin that, and I come back in, thinking that Nana had taken care of getting him potty trained, and I come back in to see poop smeared ALL OVER his walls, room.
7:11
Of course, this day that I’m trying to make this great first impression and here I am now havin to clean everything up and we’re runnin late and I’m like, come on kid, I’m draggin him to this thing, and I started gettin really frustrated with the process because he MASSIVELY regressed ! Nana had him dialed in but then he just started goin down this road where he was just poopin all the time in his diaper, and I’m like “COME ON, KID” - he became that kid that was pooping at school all the time and they’d send him home with this bag and I’m like “you pooped again kid”.
7:40
So I tried everything. I tried, I tried rewarding him - didn’t work. I tried punishing him - that really didn’t work - it started bringing this air of shame on him and he- an an pretty soon he stopped pooping altogether. I’m talkin about like, for two weeks. Nothing. He’s got this BELLY that looked like, you know like the commercials with like, the kids from UGANDA that like have their, you know, it was like, that was my KID, and he’s got this like, he’s all, he's cramping and (bending over, mimicking Weston’s distressed voice) “Daddy”, and I’m like, finally I’m like “ok kid, listen, you just got, you gotta poop somewhere”. It j, i, it doesn’t matter where.
(mimics Weston’s voice again) “Can I poop in my diaper?” I’m like, just poop in your underwear, that’s totally fine with me, ok, Captain America with brown all over it, that’s gonna be a win. I don’t care.
8:25
Peter, there are many sermons where Davey talks about Weston and his potty habits. He is livid at Weston for not being perfect and embarrassing him. This is just one of many other examples starting at 14:40:
https://resonateindy.com/sermons/better-together/whats-in-a-name
Weston pees on himself twice before Davey takes him to meet his new teacher at what Davey calls an "elite" school with "elite" parents. Davey yells "Blackburn's don't do that!" He talks about stripping down Weston in the parking lot in front of everyone. It is all so disturbing. He literally spends 5-10 minutes shaming Weston in every sermon.
Davey also posted a instastory of Weston peeing next to Davey's truck after Davey kept him at a movie shoot the entire day. Films the wet area where Weston peed and tauntingly asks Weston what the wet spot was. Embarrassed, Weston says he doesn't know as he's trying to jump in the truck. New wife taunts Weston's response.
It is alarming, but what I was looking for was an actual and accurate quote about his son physically handling his own feces.
It is a specific action that for me to analyze, I would need the quote. I understand he talks about the topic a lot, but I didn't find the direct quote of the above.
Peter
" and I come back in to see poop smeared ALL OVER his walls, room."
Weston is and has been having a few issues to contend with, according to Davey. Weston bites the back of Davey's leg and takes a chunk out of it. He says Weston does this because he thinks it's cute or something. He also talks about Weston lashing out and biting Davey's Mom in the car. I had put these two clips back to back in a 2:53 minute clip, I keep these vids private but put it to unlisted for now if anyone wants to see it. When he finishes the story about Weston biting his Mom in the car, he proceeds to call him a "selfish little brat".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-hjoQQLvM0
Peter Hyatt said...
It is alarming, but what I was looking for was an actual and accurate quote about his son physically handling his own feces.
It is a specific action that for me to analyze, I would need the quote. I understand he talks about the topic a lot, but I didn't find the direct quote of the above.
Peter
Peter - the relevant portions of the video with respect to Weston handling his feces -
7:00 - 7:11
I get myself ready an, I’m kinda managin that, and I come back in, thinking that Nana had taken care of getting him potty trained, and I come back in to see poop smeared ALL OVER his walls, room.
9:08
I am happy to tell you, that tragedy to triumph, my kid is now pooping . . in. . the potty. Well he’s not really pooping in the potty so much, he’s learned that he gets reward, he gets a gummi worm if the poop IS in the potty, so he’s pooping in his pants, taking it out, and putting it in the potty (with hand motions showing the action of taking it out of pants and putting it in the potty)
9:23
but C’MON SOMEBODY, that’s a win. He knows where it’s supposed to go now, you know what I mean?
9:28
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I had ended the transcription yesterday before the part about Weston taking poop FROM his pants, picking it out and putting it in the potty. He is definitely physically handling it at that point and Davey calls this being "potty trained" now. And to smear it all over his walls, room - yeah he was definitely physically handling it at that point, too.
We noted in the Chatzy rooms yesterday that the smearing was the day that Davey and Weston were getting ready to go to Natalia's ballet recital, running late, first day back from Nana's, new relationship with Kristi and Natalia.
Thank you for taking a look at this for all of us.
Video link again for above quotes - https://vimeo.com/274405090
Thank you, Flightbird. He is a very disturbed and troubled young man, but that his 3 year old would smear his own feces indicates impact.
Blackburn's preoccupation (the language; the unnecessary statements, the repetition) aside, what this suggests is acute impact upon the child.
I will check with other analysts, but the physical handling of feces is a red flag of abuse. As startling as it may be, it should not be entirely unexpected if we listen and follow the language of his father.
Over all, this is more than just the impact of eye witnessing trauma. The context is the incessant referencing to sex and here the bodily functions from a very troubled parent.
Professional intervention is needed.
Peter
the handling of feces is associated with sexual abuse.
Blackburn's incessant speaking of sex, including the last few years of obsessively asserting that he is heterosexual, now joins this public speaking about his son's feces:
red flags. .
I would wonder about what he saw regarding his mother;'s murder, by the feces spreading but when viewed in light of all that Blackburn perseverates about?
It is alarming.
Wow! Thank you for the insight Peter!! And thank you to all who posted these incidents for Peter to see. I am so glad to see people caring about Amanda and her son. Heartbroken that her family hasn't realized Amanda needs their help in making sure justice is served and that Weston is taken care of properly. Money and nicevthings, especially from a murder victims life insurance, don't make a loving and caring father or stepmother.
Peter, I thought this portion was significant too, or might be -
I think she maybe did the boot camp thing, where he’s like runnin around naked all the time, right -and like, they went out in public and he’s runnin around naked and it’s like “don’t worry about it, he’s just potty trainin, it’s all good right?”
Davey's emphasis that Weston was running around naked (and THEN he placed him in public, with Nana, running around naked) - why say that? Why create the visual. Why the focus, twice? And while I'm not versed on toilet training techniques, I'm almost certain that the Dean of Early Childhood Development at a college wouldn't have her grandson naked in public, much less runnin (sic) around.
He also spoke in the appearance before this one (if I'm not mistaken on the date) about Weston's penis, what they call it ("peeps"), that Weston says it's getting bigger if I understood correctly. I am not positive, but can someone confirm or deny that it was when Weston and Natalia were bathing? Something in my mind at that point raised the question of "dear God I hope it's not together at the same time".
The penis getting bigger was alarming to me. I have 3 boys and none of them have ever mentioned their penis's getting bigger. I would have passed out if they had said that as 4 year olds! I am worried about Weston. The Byars need to be very worried. This may go beyond just a control-freak, mean father.
And the fact he talked about it in a church service. Oh. My. Gosh.
"Just a control freak, mean father"
That's bad enough.
From the link above that Bingo left - Davey is telling the story about taking Weston to daycare for the first time and arriving in the parking lot.
"And when I pull him out of the carseat, he has, (laughs), I don't know if it was his water, now I know it wasn't his water, something was all over the front of his pants and I had put him the cutest outfit ever, c'mon. Was like, you will make the Blackburn name proud, by going and being in a cute outfit today. And so, I pull him out and he's just soaked all over and I'm like, noooooooo.
So what do I do? I do what every self respecting parent does, right in the middle of the parking lot, while all the parents and kids are walking by, I strip him down buck naked. Haha, I start cleaning him up and all the kids are looking at him "oooh ahhhhh" you know, an-and I'm like hey you know let's try to tuck you behind a tree or something getcha some privacy I don't know what we gotta do here, but I'm trying to get his clothes on because I'm absolutely embarrassed by my kid, who could not even make it, the commute DRY.
Oh it doesn't stop. We get to the classroom, we get him into his classroom and I go over and do the whole parent mingle thing and I walk back to his classroom an hour later and he's in different pants, definitely not the outfit that I sent him to the classroom in and I was like "so honey happened?" and they're like "well, we had an accident" and you know the teachers, the preschool teachers are so nice, "we had a little accident", like oh-ho-ho okay, (points finger), "we will talk when we get home".
So, so I'm like buddy what happened?, you know he's all distracted playing and I'm like it's okay let's go, no big deal, it's just an accident, all 3 year old's have accidents, 'cept for Blackburn's... you know like, and so we start to, he starts to walk to the door and he's walking out and he's saying bye to his teacher and I notice on his backside there's a whole nother big spot, I kid you not THREE times in one hour! He went through three pairs of clothes in an hour. I'm like let's just go to the bathroom, please don't let Ms Durcton (sic) see this.
I have not seen the feces issue in cases of eye witnessed violence alone; I have only seen it (investigator and analyzed) with relation to sexual abuse. This is why I am going to seek input from others, including one of our nation's top forensic pediatricians.
Alone, it will raise the concern of sexual abuse, but when coupled with the father's fixation in language, it is difficult to imagine it being unrelated.
Eye witnessing violence against one's own mother, very early in childhood, is trauma producing. Those who eye witness it can actually have worse repercussions than actual victims of the violence.
People marvel at Islamic terror and violence against women because they do not grasp what happens to a boy who not only sees his mother assaulted, but the mother affirms it to him as "scared duty."
He is impacted by the violence, he is impacted by the conflict of submission and duty (save mom),
he is further confused by fear,
he is further impacted by the hormonal impression upon the brain...
he is, in short, desensitized to violence but so much worse: it is idealized within him and is how he grows up relating to women.
Europeaan rape crisis.
If the Rape Epidemic was "fake", the governments would not be concealing statistics nor silencing police. It is worse than we know.
Whereas it is seemingly impossible for most men to become sexually aroused at the thought of violently attacking a woman, bloodying her, etc, it is seen as a norm within cultures impacted by Islam. Even in the afterlife, they are rewarded with raping virgins, as if this is somehow "better" and worth dying for.
Blackburn is deceptive about his conduct and about the ideology of Christianity. See the recent investigation reported in the blog article about the exploitation scheme of a quarter of a million dollars.
Schools, scouting, sports and religious organizations can draw in pedophiles.
Blackburn is using Christianity to exploit. I have seen enough examples to know that what he considers Divine revelation and authority, he can immediately place himself above.
This is more dangerous than non-religious. It is personality driven.
That he has this difficult situation with his son is one thing, his public addressing is inappropriate just as most things he says are inappropriate, errant, but deliberate betrayal of ideology, and deception as he builds his empire.
It won't last.
Peter
Thoughts from the public Chatzy room -
From Davey's blog post entitled "Lisence (sic) to Sin" - link here - https://livingtherealworld.blogspot.com/2006/03/lisence-to-sin-maybe-for-james-bond.html
It was NOT a good situation and it just reminded me about the consequences that accompany each and every one of our actions. My parents always told me it takes a lifetime to build up a reputation but one stupid decision to make it all come crashing down. AND THAT'S SO TRUE!
Tonight at Newspring, Perry talked about David and how severe his consequences were with his sins (You can check it out for yourself in 2 Samuel 11). Just think, David slept with his best friend's wife and then had his best friend killed when she got pregnant. He tried to cover one mistake up with another. Two wrongs DON'T make a right. Have you ever tried to lie your way out of a lie and it just keeps piling up until you are so far in you don't know how to move, let alone get out of it.
March 25 2006 - you said it yourself Davey. . . each and every one of our actions have consequences. Have you ever tried to lie your way out of a lie and it just keeps piling up until you are so far in you don't know how to move, let alone get out of it? Those were YOUR words, twelve years ago. And now it's coming full circle to you. You have spun a web of lies about Amanda's murder that is so twisted and strung so tightly that there's no way you can escape.
Davey - you said "I had no idea that anyone had been in my house". . . COLOSSAL lie, and there's no way anyone would ever believe that you walked in and found Amanda in the condition she was in and thought that she and Weston and Mel had gotten her into that condition. And your first honest thought was that you probably just lost the baby right here, but um, if we just get her to the hospital she'll be ok - you had no idea there were gunshots / didn't find out until you got to the hospital that there were gunshots and that there had been a h-home, uh, invasion in your house (or however you said it). More lies.
Yeah, FFB (flightfulbird) definitely thinks Davey should've stuck with the "someone broke into my house and assaulted my wife" story. Because there's no way Davey is going to be able to sell his lies when he's on the stand as a witness. A fledgling defense attorney could pick Davey's story apart.
The homeowner said numerous times on multiple occasions that HE HAD NO IDEA ANYONE HAD BEEN IN HIS HOUSE ! ! ! - so how can anyone except those who were in the house be responsible for what happened to Amanda Blackburn ?
oooops Davey. . . .
And Kristi the bride looked totally shellshocked in that Instagram pic from today with her and Davey's dad. She was waylaid with the three fathers lying in wait to walk her down the aisle. She looked like she'd been crying in that pic (not tears of joy either) - not as a celebrating happy bride.
Maybe we should request the 911 call again from the Marion County Prosecutor's Office and find out if it is STILL considered to be part of an active investigation.
Others in the Chatzy room noted that it must've been a really quick 911 call if Davey had time to hang up with the dispatcher and then call his dad while waiting for the paramedics to arrive. He called 911 at 8:22am and IFD Engine 12 was already there and calling for IMPD to respond for a possible assault by 8:30am.
Why wasn't he remaining on the phone with 911 following instructions instead of sitting on the floor with Amanda and waiting for them? Why was he taking mental snapshots of things that were out of place so he could tell investigators later - if he had no idea anyone had been in his house?
Was he on the phone with his dad and also cleaning up, staging, doing other things before the paramedics arrived ?
Whatever he said to 911 dispatcher, the words were successful in holding off IMPD's arrival for as long as possible.
If it was short enough of a call for him to have time to say whatever he said, hang up and call his dad - and given the fact that IMPD was not rolled at first - it really does sound like he just said something along the lines of "I just walked in from the gym and my wife is unconscious, maybe she fell and hit her head, I dunno, please send a medic".
He called at 8:22am -and not even eight minutes passed before paramedics were calling for IMPD, which means they got to the cul de sac and were there inside the house evaluating the situation in less than eight minutes.
His dad's cellphone records would be interesting - to see what time Davey called him after calling 911 at 8:22am.
If the 911 dispatcher thought there was bleeding to stop, attention that could be given, any idea at all that the situation was what it was - I don't think he/she would have LET Davey hang up - therefore he wouldn't have been free to call his dad while doing whatever else he did before paramedics arrived.
Did Davey even tell the dispatcher that Amanda was lying in a pool of blood ?
Don't get me started on what he did / had time to do between waking up at 4:30am and leaving the house at 6:10am. . . grabbing his gym clothes/gym bag takes three seconds and we know from his appearances/talks that he spent around ten minutes in the word and prayed for Amanda and Evie's protection while sitting on the living room couch.
And how long does it take to NOT lock a door?
How long does it take to lock up a dog?
Great post FFB. Not to mention, early on, he talks about grabbing a gym bag but later says he came bk home because he forgot his bag, otherwise he would have gone straight to work. (his words) He didn't even have a place of work to go to at that time, so that was a lie in itself. He only got a church office for his glorified Sunday School class of 100 people after the blood money came in from Amanda.
From Kate's video "Documenting the Story" - link here - https://youtu.be/6WKpAM6ihqk
Transcript today of 7:50 through 9:57 of the video - watch and listen to the part at 8:30 in particular - Clint Dupin has his hand over his mouth at that point, he TOTALLY doesn’t believe Davey’s account of what happened. He keeps his hand over his mouth from 8:30 until the transcript (and that section of the video) ends at 9:57.
. . . and then I left for the gym, um, and s uh, came back, and uh, walked in the house an-and found Amanda unconscious on the floor.
Uh, Weston, our l-, he was fifteen months old at the time, he was up in his, his crib, um, and- and it no-nothin' really made sense to me when I, when I, found her, um, she was unconscious in, in a pool of blood and she was breathing. . . but, I didn’t kn-, it didn’t click with me that somethin' had happened, nu- uhh, that people had broken into my house. I didn’t really get it. Although there were things that were out of place that didn’t seem right but in the moment you’re just in shock, you know you’re just like whaaaat, so all I could do right there was just, "Jesus no Jesus no please please" . . . ih we're- just pray. . . um, for her.
8:30
And, and so I thought, that something had, h-had gone terribly wrong with her pregnancy, she was three months pregnant. And so I honestly thought mayb-, ok SHE’S gonna be ok, we probably just miscarried the baby, we just gotta get her to the hospital, um, thought she had just gotten dizzy, passed out, somethin' had fallen on her and hit her head.
And um, and so, got her to the hospital. And it wasn’t until I got, in the hospital waiting room, and the doctors came to me and had gotten her, I can’t say stabilized, but, but under respiratory system and all of that, that they told me what had happened, that she had three bullet wounds, um one in her arm one in her back an- and one in her head. And that, they gave us a very very grave prognosis, um, an-, and even in that moment we were like, “but God’s gonna do a miracle, like, this is gonna be somethin’ that, that is, you know, an an I remember prayin’ with the doctor right there when he told me the news, like, I don’t, I can’t, I can’t explain to you why, the Lord gave me faith in that moment?, or grace in that moment?, I can’t explain it. Part of it was probably rea-, a lot of shock, um, an-, but I remember prayin’ “OK God, there are people in this hospital that don’t believe in You, and they need to believe in You, and so You’re gonna work a miracle here so that people will come to know You".
And so that was our prayer for the next probably 20, 24 hours, um, until they, they came to us and said hey there’s no brain activity, um, she’s - she’s gone, we’re just keepin' her alive right now.
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Which is it, Davey? You gave two very different reasons IN SEVENTEEN SECONDS, right behind each other, for Amanda's condition - neither of which were correct.
Please choose one -
(1) - you thought something had gone terribly wrong with her pregnancy, you thought we probably just miscarried the baby right here
(2) - you thought she had just gotten dizzy, passed out, somethin' had fallen on her and hit her head.
That whole appearance, the almost-breathless delivery of the explanation, smacks of a kid who was caught in his parents' room or somewhere else when he wasn't supposed to be there and he had to come up with an explanation for all the reasons he had to go into the room.
And there's no way in hell when a jury sees photos of that scene and hears your 911 call - that they will believe that you thought (honestly or not) that EITHER of these things were the reason Amanda was on the floor unconscious.
Peter, are you ever going to tell us what the investigators in Mesa said about Davey Blackburn? If so, when? If not, why not?
Yes please Peter, we are hanging ! I for one was thrilled to know that investigators were talking about him.
Also this - a poster known as OPN was commenting on one of your Statement Analysis posts about Amanda Blackburn back in November 2015 - here are some copy/pastes from them -
OPN said...
Bullets can penetrate the skull (enter and then stay there) or perforate the skull (enter and then exit). Entrance wounds are SMALL and the skin retracts over them because skin has elasticity. When the skin retracts, it makes the entrance hole appear even smaller. These wounds can be difficult to see. Medical personnel have to pull the patient's hair back and separate it to find entrance wounds.
Exit wounds are always significantly larger. They aren't hard to find/see. The large exit wound is likely the only wound that Davey Blackburn saw.
Bullets frequently deflect off objects inside the human body once they are inside the body. This changes the bullet's trajectory. For this reason, exit wounds are frequently not found in a straight line from the entrance wound. The non-aligning entrance and exit wounds or seeing only one visible wound (the exit wound) make it difficult for non-medically trained people to determine a gunshot was the source of the injury.
November 25, 2015 at 4:45 PM
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OPN said...
It's possible that the bullet only penetrated Amanda's skull (didn't make a large exit wound). When her skin's elasticity retracted it over the bullet hole, the entry wound would appear very small. Since Davey Blackburn has never worked in an ER or as an EMT, he wouldn't recognize such a tiny injury to be a bullet hole.
November 25, 2015 at 4:59 PM
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OPN said...
He didn't take her into the bathtub and wash the blood from her to search for other wounds. He walked into the house and saw a pool of blood and his wife's hair covered in blood. He told the EMT dispatch that she had a head injury. That was a truthful statement. He isn't an ER doc or a paramedic/EMT and would know what to look for to determine if it was a gunshot wound. If you aren't an ER nurse or an EMT, you wouldn't know what to look for to determine if it was a gunshot wound either.
November 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM
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OPN said...
Blood is not like oil. It clots. If the exit wounds were against the floor, the blood pooled and some of it would have clotted on her skin, near the exit wounds, and clothing. Davey Blackburn didn't take Amanda into the shower to remove all the clotted blood to check for all her injuries before calling the ambulance. He saw a head wound, found she was unconscious, and he called the ambulance. There is nothing hinky about about this. He didn't possess the medical knowledge to immediately diagnosis a bullet wound which had clotted blood all around it and possibly covering it.
November 25, 2015 at 5:26 PM
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OPN said...
If I found my spouse on the floor with a head wound, I wouldn't start picking off all the gooey clots to see if it was a bullet wound. I'd call the ambulance, tell them what I saw (my spouse lying in a pool of blood), and I'd beg them to hurry.
Would you pick off all the gooey, large, black clots to impress the ambulance dispatcher with your pseudo medical knowledge?
November 25, 2015 at 5:30 PM
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Peter, some people in the Chatzy rooms believe this person known as OPN might have been, or was, THERE in the Blackburn house that day. Can you comment - will you comment ? - does the language in the posts above by OPN suggest this individual's presence there in the house?
No.
There is too much lack of sobriety.
Peter, thank you for taking a look. Would you explain lack of sobriety as it relates to Statement Analysis?
That person known as OPN in the posts above was talking in November 2015 about a "slippery bathroom floor" - which was weird to me because Amanda was found in the living room.
I wonder who that OPN individual might've been. This person had medical knowledge and also a need to support Davey - and explain why Davey did or didn't do things - or why Davey might or might not have known things.
We know for certain that Kristi went to the same LA Fitness location as Davey - way WAY before they ever "saw each other for the first time" at Crossfit or at Resonate Church. Davey wrote a whole blog post explaining how and when he and Kristi met - hiding the truth that both of them trained at the same (small) gym where Davey was seen on the morning of November 10, 2015.
Davey openly said that the gym was a place of temptation for him.
Why would he want or need to hide the fact that he knew Kristi from LA Fitness on Shore Drive - and for as long as he did?
Kristi has medical knowledge and IF they were seeing each other before this happened to Amanda (or if there is a remote chance that Kristi was involved or even had knowledge of anything that happened), she would have a vested interest in "clearing him" or explaining why he did what he did - it fits.
CJ wrote awhile ago
"Flightful, OPN's language is interesting. We don't know that Davey told the EMT that Amanda had a head wound. The affidavit says he told 911 that she was injured and unconcious, and doesn't specify where. Davey later talks about finding her and thinking she had fallen, or something had fallen on her, or that something had gone wrong with the pregnancy. To the best of my recollection, he has never talked about his interaction with the EMT. I also find it weird that OPN says twice that Davey "didn't take" Amanda into the bathtub/shower to wash her off. I would have expected "wouldn't have taken," the language of conjecture."
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Yeah how does OPN know and/or be able to say with such certainty what Davey did or didn't do - very different if OPN had said "probably wouldn't have" or even "wouldn't have taken". It really does seem like maybe they were there.
Linking this video by Kate again - https://youtu.be/6WKpAM6ihqk
I keep coming back to the fact that Davey says he had no idea there were bullets, that he didn't find out that Amanda had been shot three times until he got to the hospital and the doctors came in and talked to him after they got her "I can't say stabilized, but" (as Davey told Clint Dupin).
Was he not right there with the paramedics, or at least nearby (to give them room to treat her) but interested in finding out what had happened and if she'd be ok? - didn't he hear them call for IMPD almost immediately?
It seems like either he would have heard the discussion - or - they would've told him - - that there were bullets / that she'd been shot.
Didn't Davey wonder why the need for IMPD to be summoned to the house if it was a miscarriage or a fall from a decorative ladder, as he says he honestly thought it was ?! Why the need for IMPD to be summoned if Davey had no idea anyone had been in his house, although there were some things that looked out of place (to say the least) ?!
And Amber spoke of telling Gavin about Amanda while she was running around getting ready to go to the hospital, how she'd been shot, you know. . .
When did Davey tell Amber that Amanda had been shot ?
-Davey called 911 to report his wife Amanda Blackburn "injured and unconscious" on the living room floor
-Davey called his dad after he called 911 and said he thought something was wrong with the baby
-Davey texted Perry Noble and gave him the impression that Amanda had fallen
-Davey called Robin and said there was a decorative ladder and maybe Amanda was hanging something or cleaning something and maybe the ladder fell on her head
-Davey's brother Jono and his wife Tessa were initially told that Amanda had "collapsed"
-Various churches were told that Amanda had "a serious head injury"
-Davey's sister-in-law Amber WROTE that Amanda was "found unconscious"
It goes on and on. And all of this that friends and family were told gave no indication whatsoever of the severity of the situation -
and it is more obvious with each day that passes that the 911 call also did not reveal what Davey actually walked in and saw.
It bothers me especially that Davey told Robin that maybe Amanda was up, hanging something or cleaning something and maybe the ladder hit her - utter horseshit.
Quote from Robin in 2/2017 appearance -
"So, I, called him back ... And, um, he said ... He said, um. I. There. She had a ladder, um, in her living room that held blankets on it, and he said the ladder was on the floor. He said “I don’t know if she was up, hanging something or cleaning something, but, maybe the ladder fell on her head, but she’s got a trauma wound to the back of her head”.
C'mon Robin and Phil and the rest of Amanda's family and friends, can you not see straight through this ? Each and every single one of you know that Davey hid the truth from you, misled you, misdirected you, flat-out lied to you.
Utter strangers on the internet who never met this sweet girl are way more invested in finding out the truth about what happened that morning.
Additional discovery of autopsy documents have been added to the case records for Larry, Jalen, and Diano.
I wonder what bearing, if any, the additional discovery will have on Jalen and Diano's pleas. And in Larry's case, the state submitted a fourth motion to quash today.
Thank you for the response, Peter. Just a quick question, when you say "lack of sobriety" you're talking about us, not the investigators from Mesa, right? Lol.
Gooey, black, slippery:
https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/10/sensory-description-in-analysis-of-sex.html
"Black" blood clots:
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2017/01/statement-analysis-color-in-analysis.html
This sounds familiar . . .initial appearance, motive (maybe two motives). . .
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woodland-hills-sementilli-arrest-20170616-story.html
The wife of a hair products mogul who was found stabbed to death in his Woodland Hills home in January was charged with capital murder Friday along with her boyfriend, the Los Angeles Police Department said Friday.
Monica Sementilli, 45, and Robert Baker, 55, were both arrested Wednesday in the San Fernando Valley and booked on suspicion of murdering Fabio Sementilli.
The body of the 45-year-old hairdresser was found in a pool of blood on the patio of his home on Jan. 23. Initially, his death appeared to be the result of a home-invasion robbery.
However, after months of investigation, detectives determined that his death was the result of a plot to collect $1.6 million in life insurance, according to LAPD Robbery Homicide Capt. William Hayes.
"Fabio Sementilli was directly targeted in this case," Hayes said. "Monica Sementilli and Robert Baker were involved in an intimate relationship for a year and half."
and. . .
Monica Sementilli and Baker were charged Friday with capital murder with a special circumstance of murder for financial gain, making them eligible for the death penalty. They are being held without bail.
Monica Sementilli and Baker met at an LA Fitness gym in Woodland Hills, Hayes said.
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10216198830825234
"Oh how much I miss my sweet sister. It seems like the really hard days - even now - take me right back to the very beginning when every single day seemed hard. I remember there were many nights when I couldn’t sleep, or my mind would just continually process the details of what had happened to Amanda, or I would find myself with my face buried in my hands as grief would completely overwhelm my heavy heart. And today is one of those days.
I remember so often calling Davey when I just needed someone to understand the way I was feeling. I would sit out on my back patio in the exact chair and spot I would sit when I called to talk to Amanda. Davey always answered, and spent time just listening to me as I tried to process through what was happening. And even though he was processing through his own grief, he always had a word of advice or encouragement or an amazing piece of truth from God’s Word that would always calm my anxious heart and focus my mind on what is true. In many ways, my talks with Davey were a lot like my talks with Amanda. She always had such wisdom to offer and never ceased to point me back to Jesus.
Davey sent me a copy of this incredible ebook he wrote. I found myself reading through and finding such strength and wisdom in its pages. There are still so many days when I feel as if I’m “surviving” through this journey of loss, but I’ve decided that what I really want is to THRIVE in the midst of it. I feel so grateful to have this book in my hands now - when I need it most. And I know there are so many of you going through pain and loss and trial and hardship. This ebook is pretty incredible, and I would love for it to help you in your time of need the way it has helped me.
Thank you Davey for taking the time to write this. Thank you for all the moments you picked up the phone to help me in my time of need. And thank you for continuing to help me even now. You’ve been there for me on my best days and my worst days - pointing me to Jesus. And I’m hoping this book will do the same for many, many people who need it.
(If you or someone you know could benefit from this book, you can download it here. http://daveyblackburn.com/ebook)"
Circling the wagons, much, with this Facebook post ? - like, don't you worry Davey, I'm with you ?
Or is it a shameless plug for his e-book . . .
. . . or both?
"Ovaltine?!?!? A crummy commercial?!?!?! Son of a bitch!!"-A Christmas Story
*P.S. I realized my last post might be taken as trolling. It wasn't. I think Amber's post is a commercial. A crummy commercial.
The only difference I see, FFB, is luckily the investigating Police department wasnt IMPD. The investigators in this case did what I would expect any Police Dept. to do. And the perpetrators didn't say I came home from the gym... I came home from the gym... I came home from the gym.... I came home from the gym........
Yes, I wish it had been any police dept besides IMPD. They flubbed it big time IMO.
Amber's post makes me concerned for her mental well-being or common sense ability. Your former brother-n-law writes a book making fun of your sister and talking about how much better his life is without her and you praise him. I am baffled. Truly baffled. The book is so awful. It is so dishonoring to Amanda and it completely self-serving, even explaining to other husbands to take out huge life insurance policies on their wives, potential for copy cat murders. He disrespects people who are truly grieving, those who may need medical help for the deep grief. Davey taunts them by saying he barely needed anything but a couple tylenol pms and a golf membership. I have truly lost respect for Amber at this point. If she found inspiration in this book, I truly question her state of mind right now. Justice for Amanda! Someone fight for her, please.
It's so quiet now that everyone is lawyered up.
What do you mean Anon @4:04? Who has lawyered up?
Two circles are forming. The one surrounding the Wesleyans is in close touch with Davey's relative Ken Shigley, past president of the Georgia Bar.
Davey's mom's 1st cousin Ken: https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2018/05/17/court-of-appeals-candidate-once-prosecuted-student-rather-than-drop-bad-case/?slreturn=20180606020518
https://www.myajc.com/news/crime--law/candidates-for-georgia-court-appeals-get-judicial-warning/3pRIxzOtYRzJb2J9bwfJ2K/
OT
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/volpe-s-father-says-warlike-stress-led-to-violent-outburst.html
Chatzy has died off.
There is a deposition in the judge's court on Thursday.
And this OT from Perry Noble today:
https://www.facebook.com/nobleperry/photos/a.539266166161879.1073741826.163968103691689/1789773581111125/?type=3&theater
"Two years ago today, it was announced publicly that I had been fired from my role as Senior Pastor at NewSpring Church. That day (and the days that followed) were some of the most humiliating and shameful I’ve ever experienced in my life.
People have speculated on the specifics since even before my termination was announced. And, while I wish there would have been a different outcome - the bottom line is I am the one who poured the drinks.
To say the days that followed were “dark” would be an understatement. Honestly I could not see a way out, or how I would ever be able to crawl out of the darkness I had plunged into.
My mistakes had cost me everything (family, friendships and ministry) and I did not believe picking up the pieces was even a possibility.. I dealt with intense bouts of loneliness, fear, depression, doubt and self defeat.
However, Ecclesiastes 3:11 says God makes everything beautiful in His time. And, while in my darkest season I doubted whether or not this was true - I am now beginning to see the benefits of all I’ve gone through…things such as…
#1 - Learning how to see myself the way God sees me, as His child - that His love for me is not based on my performance - but that, no matter what, I am completely loved, forgiven, empowered…and STILL called.
#2 - That even though I’ve lost friendships I thought I would always have, I’ve rediscovered what it means to be a friend to others—how to stand with people going through difficult times rather than abandoning them in the name of “tough love.”
#3 - Alcohol was a coping mechanism I ran to in order to numb the pain in my life. Going through and completing an intense treatment program put me on the path to discovering how to deal with the real issues from my past (trauma) that was causing me to overmedicate on alcohol - and it’s incredible to live in a place of true healing and freedom.
#4 - My physical health matters (and alcohol was supplying me with numerous amounts of “empty” calories.) Since going through treatment I’ve lost around 40 pounds and four inches in the waist and am the leanest I’ve ever been in my life. (I can actually see my abs now - didn’t they existed!)
#5 - My daughter, despite what I’ve put her through, still loves me, believes in me and told me just the other day that I am an “awesome daddy.” (Made me cry!)
Has everything turned out like I hoped it would?
Nope!
There isn’t a day when regret doesn’t try to shame me into silence.
However, when a person falls down they can either cry about the fall, try to blame the fall on others—or simply get back up and try to keep moving forward, and for me—I’ve chosen to get back up (even though laying down would have been much easier!)
Each day is a challenge - and sometimes I feel like I stumble through seasons rather than walking through them!!
A huge “thank you” to everyone who has offered prayer, encouragement and support during this time. I can’t express with words how grateful I am for the way the Lord has used you in my life.
And lastly - I know there are some people who are not supportive, welcoming or even accepting of what I’ve been called to do.
Let me clearly say…I don’t need you. I feel like I have apologized over and over for two years - and - while I am truly sorry, it’s time for me (and you) to move on!
You did not call me into ministry—and you can’t call me out of it.
I’m not mad at you, nor will I fight with you - I’m simply going to do my best to “focus forward” and try to reach as many people for Christ as possible. Besides, the affirmation of people who don’t care enough to find out the entire story simply doesn’t matter to me.
God is a God of Second Chances - and it’s my hope and prayer I can make the best out of mine!"
It is absolutely true that the public / nonprivate Chatzy room is not active like it was.
The reason is because so many individuals came in and lurked and didn't post. Except for Bobcat, we did not know who anyone was and consequently we did not trust discussing sensitive details of this case and investigation in an open room.
And, some of us were posting in both the open room as well as the private room and there was some overlap - it was time-consuming to keep up in both rooms.
So we have moved to yet another private Chatzy room - a brand new room - where the discussion continues (heatedly and productively).
Davey, don't rest easy just because we aren't talking about your crime on this board or in the open public Chatzy room.
This isn't over.
By the way, Amanda deserved SO much better than you.
So I am in DE and started seeing a symbol I haven't ever seen before on a lot of car windows. I started asking people I work with if anyone knew what it was after I couldn't find it anywhere searching most of the day, which led me to U"Church", KW, DB, which led me down a rabbit hole till 4 in the morning posting this.
My Co-workers went to the DB sermon at UC. Apparently they thought the story was as weird hearing it as I did reading one article about it. I have now read everything I could find on the internet about it. Someone here posted maybe new wife went to LAFit? Didn't find anything about that, but guess who did?
https://twitter.com/jenkbeck08/status/374906015827132416
The other person in the cul-de-sac whose house was burgled by burglars who like to hang out and drink beer and wine for an hour. The very same person who got to their house and called the police 5 minutes before DB. Whose job was not a night job from what I could find. Was she at the gym that morning? Was she involved, or just tabs being kept so DB knew when the house was empty? Any other information out there on her and DBs relationship? She went to a (real)church minutes from his (school), went to the same gym (assumption since it is the closest LAfit to her house too) where DB was so tempted, and lived a few houses down. What's the deal? I need to go to sleep.
Oh and her sweater that tied DNA evidence to alleged...
And she stopped posting on twitter 10 days before the murder and hasn't posted since that I can see.
Wrong Alison Becker, anon @4:10am
Correct A. Becker https://www.facebook.com/ambecker10
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