Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
Imagine Publicity Blog : broadcast of the show on Madeleine McCann 2016.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2201 – 2400 of 4996 Newer› Newest»Bobcat - how do you know Robin wasn't able to sleep, and so she had got up again? Or she just stayed up very late, but maybe didn't want to say that? Robin says she's an early riser - insomniacs who don't like to admit they are insomniac sometimes say that - 'I'm an early riser' - which is not to say that every one who says they are an early riser is insomniac, or that Robin is, just that it could be a possibility. I don't see why it has to be suspiciousthat she dropped the pronoun there.
She may have got up, or had just stayed up chatting with a relative, as they were on vacation - or possibly speaking to someone on the phone - it's possible Amber called her, if she had any concerns about Amanda, and their 'getting lost' journey from the airport, or what Amanda had said or tried to say to her at the playpark. Or it may be quite as she said, and she just was up early drinking coffee when her phone rang, and it was Davey. Robin is not bound to say anything other than what she chooses to say just in order to satisfy public interest - I don't see how what Robin says causes you to believe she is 'concealing responsibility' - responsibility for what?
I should think all the parents were angry beyond words that Davey minimised Amanda's condition to the extent that they were only worried and praying whilst waiting on good news (Jono and his wife were even going to work) rather than thinking they needed to make immediate travel arrangements to be at Amanda's bedside. Davey said his thought was, 'if we can just get her to the hospital, she'll be fine - I thought we'd probably just lose the baby.' (from memory so maybe not an exact quote). That is probably similar to what he said to all the parents. I think they all are struggling with guilt, most likely due to earlier passing over of concerns about Amanda which should have been taken seriously, and also for the delay, though it was short and caused by Davey's lying first calls and texts, in leaving to be at the hospital.
Robin says they were far away. I think she says that out of regret that they thought not to return home immediately, and concern people may have thought badly of them for that in view of what had happened to Amanda - but they did not at first know that - they only had Davey's account, so probably they hoped and believed that within the hour there would be good news from the hospital, whilst also having niggling doubts about what Davey had said to them - they would have no reason to think someone had attacked and shot Amanda - it was not conveyed. They are sure to have some retrospective guilt that they did not immediately jump on a plane, because they were far away - if they had been at home when they received the call, they probably would have gone immediately to the hospital, even if they had believed Amanda would be fine. That would be a lot for anyone to live with, but they did not know what had happened to Amanda, and that due to Davey's lies. In the long term it made little difference as Amanda did not regain consciousness, and they were able to be with her till the end - but to be misled like that in what was clearly a life and death situation must have caused them to doubt Davey when they learned Amanda had been shot, and even more so from the moment they laid eyes upon Amanda's battered frame at the hospital.
I think a very frightening family situation, ongoingly so, as Davey has been 'cleared' - also, I think that's why there is no full account of texts and phone calls.
Mom2Many - thanks muchly for sharing the tip, I will order that next week. It will be helpful between then and when (I hope) to do Peter's home course.
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Peter - your blog is very helpful, for which always thanks, even when it makes for uncomfortable reading which quite often it does, seeing myself in there - I am not as truthful as I would like to believe, or like others to believe, which realisation is painful.
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I keep finding and making notes of new things. Such as there is an important distinction in SA between something which is 'indicated' and something which is only 'suggested'. That was an embarrassing discovery, as I have been using both terms quite casually and almost interchangeably, which I can see make at least a lot of my posts a disaster in not being aware those are SA terms with particular application - that is just one thing I learned from reading through some of the older articles.
Okay, Anon, please don't use what I said to Bobcat as agreeing with you. I don't understand your hateful comments toward Bobcat, but we all have the right to our own opinions, I don't agree with yours either. I like Bobcat's posts and her willingness to keep a timeline to help us all. It's okay to hear her opinions without disrespecting her for them. I like to hear what everyone thinks whether I feel the same or not. Bobcat has brought a lot of interesting info and opinions, without disrespecting others. I wanted her and everyone to know I felt differently without judging her. Hi Bobcat! I assumed you are a "her". Thanks for all you've done in this case! I'm glad you are here.
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Okay, Anon, please don't use what I said to Bobcat as agreeing with you. I don't understand your hateful comments toward Bobcat, but we all have the right to our own opinions, I don't agree with yours either. I like Bobcat's posts and her willingness to keep a timeline to help us all. It's okay to hear her opinions without disrespecting her for them. I like to hear what everyone thinks whether I feel the same or not. Bobcat has brought a lot of interesting info and opinions, without disrespecting others. I wanted her and everyone to know I felt differently without judging her. Hi Bobcat! I assumed you are a "her". Thanks for all you've done in this case! I'm glad you are here.
May 12, 2017 at 11:23 PM
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Isn't it rather arrogant of you to assume my opinion of bobcat has anything to do with you or visa versa?
Bobcat has pulled no punches in raking people through the mud in the name of SA, with no concern for their guilt or innocence. She will think she sees something in a statement and develop an entire bizarre scenario surrounding a dropped pronoun.
Bobcat hasn't brought anything to this blog...except far out fairytales.
It's not cool to casually accuse people of being murderers, and then take it to another level by "analyzing" (incorrectly) their every word (their publicly spoken words, of course) surrounding their tragic loss. Mom, dad, sis, bro.....no one escapes bobcat's relentless, mean-spirited, unfeeling, although baseless, attacks.
Regularly accusing, in a public forum, innocent people of murder and harping on it day after day is much preferable, though, to "trolling" this nasty person. Poor attached bobcat, although she available herself to "troll attacks" by putting herself out there with the evil and mean accusations and story-writing she published here.
Sure. Does that sound "nice" to the more decent people here? Do you really believe what bobcat does is ethical?
That goes beyond analysis.
It's not cool to casually accuse people of being murderers, and then take it to another level by "analyzing" (incorrectly) their every word (their publicly spoken words, of course) surrounding their tragic loss. Mom, dad, sis, bro.....no one escapes bobcat's relentless, mean-spirited, unfeeling, although baseless, attacks.
Regularly accusing, in a public forum, innocent people of murder and harping on it day after day is much preferable, though, to "trolling" this nasty person. Poor attacked bobcat, although she avails herself to "troll attacks" by putting herself out there with her evil and mean accusations and story-writing she eagerly publishes here.
Sure. Does that sound "nice" to the more decent people here? Do you really believe what bobcat does is ethical?
That goes beyond analysis.
Davey: "We (is me and Jesus) have nothing to hide."
I haven't complained about my opinions (and "Bobcat") being attacked for expressing them.
The most recent outrage to my amateur (I have studied independently at home) analysis of a public statement made by a close relative, describing the night before Amanda Blackburn was found with a bullet in her head, is understandable; especially if it prompted reasonable questions that the family member is unwilling to answer.
If my amateur analysis is all wrong or even partially wrong, I would like to read examples that help me and other readers learn from my errors. That shouldn't be hard as I listed the sensitivity indicators numerically. If I am shown to be all wrong, I will delete the sample.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Davey: "We (is me and Jesus) have nothing to hide."
May 13, 2017 at 12:37 PM
Dissociative Identity Disorder is a possibility in some people.
That explanation has been considered and rejected by context.
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/amanda-blackburn-murder-pronouns.html?m=1
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-to-help
"When Amanda passed there were mobs of people showering my family and me with a myriad of things—trinkets, tokens, picture frames, lava lamps, angels, wind chimes, most of which bearing some pithy theological phrase of hope or comfort. If it could be packed and shipped, we received it. While some of these were sweet and sentimental, most of them—if I’m honest—wound up shoved into a closet or a box to either re-gift or throw into the garbage. Please don’t misunderstand me, I truly appreciated the sentiment and the thought, but the last thing I needed in my life at this point was more clutter. My life already felt so chaotic. All in one moment I was forced to take on the responsibilities of a single parent without a home (my home had become a crime scene), a church to pastor, and a livelihood to consider—all the while trying to wade through the murky waters of loneliness, anger, frustration, loss, fear, anxiety, depression, and hatred toward the perpetrators who so flippantly took the life of my bride. In the wake of this, it's tough to say it was wind chimes and porcelain cherubs that cheered me up. You see the challenge?
Again, everyone had very good intentions. I certainly don’t fault people for that. And I'm grateful for all who cared enough to send us something.
But if I’m giving you advice on how to tangibly help a friend walking through loss, I would tell you, steer clear of the sentimental memorabilia and shower them with something practical. The best gifts we received were simple things like diapers, wipes, gift cards, cash, meals, trips, offers to stay in vacation homes as a family, and books (If you want to know some helpful books check out this post I wrote). These were things we could actually use as we tried to put the broken pieces of our life back together."
Cash and trips, please!
http://stuffchristianslike.net/2011/06/21/calling-your-wife-your-bride/
"Just send your cash."
https://youtu.be/MRfC9cqAUKw
Works for Haitians, and pastors.
OMG, I can't believe he said that. If he's gonna be honest, I think he should tell us more about what he really did that morning.
'Mobs' of people sending tasteless memorabilia, what? Mobs- as opposed to kind individuals sending something practical for Weston, picture frames for Amanda's photos, and odds and ends with 'some theological phrase of hope or comfort' - that would be scripture verses, I bet. Nothing as tasteful as bits of scrap wood with #nothingiswasted and 'The best is yet to come' daubed across them.
'Mobs' - I associate that word either with lawless mobs or adoring fans mobbing a celebrity. Maybe bands of unbelievers banded together to send crates of emergency porcelain cherubs and the purple glitter of mourning.
Well, even if he thought that, it was insensitive to say it. What makes him not care about the feelings of the gift-givers? Humble gifts.
Q: Why are you trashing all the memorial gifts, Davey? We thought our mantra was 'nothing is wasted'.
A: Cos, they were not cash, gift vouchers or free holidays, duh. They were trash, not treasure. As for us, we have no use for the poor widow's offering.
To be a bit fair, I can sympathise on the bad taste porcelain cherubs. (Still kept the tacky equivalent, though I might bin it, maybe next year.)
Davey said 'Pain is pain, you can't compare pain.' Now he's saying it's not all the same, which is a slight improvement on his earlier position.Anyone would be likely to agree there is no comparison to be made between the death of a young person and the death of an elderly person, but he didn't mean you couldn't compare different types of loss - earlier he was saying it was all the same, which left the impression that he did not experience the grief which would have been expected at Amanda's murder.
'....hatred toward the perpetrators who so flippantly took the life of my bride.'
Flippant - dictionary.com
frivolously disrespectful, shallow, or lacking in seriousness; characterized by levity:
The audience was shocked by his flippant remarks about patriotism.
Flippantly - how can a brutal murder be described as something done 'flippantly'? 'Flippant' normally applies to a too casual remark. One may be censured for flippancy - it doesn't get much more consequence than that. To describe a murder as done flippantly is to minimise in the extreme -or he does not understand the word? And Amanda was Davey's wife, not his bride - someone flippantly took the life of his bride - or someone murdered his wife, Amanda. Why is he saying it like that? Is it distancing, or a sort of distancing?
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Davey has conducted only three funerals since Amanda died, which works out as one every six months, which as pastoring IS his day job, shows very little call upon his services. I wonder how the online donation drive is going...
'Now that I’ve experienced the loss of the person closest to me in this whole world, you would think I would feel differently about funerals. You would think I’d step into those settings as more of an expert—like a three-time returning champion stepping back into the coliseum to lay waste to an opponent he’s already defeated thrice before.'
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That is the strangest thought process?
Also, Davey has only ever conducted those three funerals, throughout his entire time in ministry - not one while Amanda was alive. I wonder what the set up is - maybe over there funeral homes don't have a list of pastors who are called upon for the non-religious or those without a church, or if they do, he is not on the lists, or just not called upon. I suppose if it's only Resonate members who might call upon his services, three in that time period would be about right.
Third funeral - why would he think anyone might think of 'a three time returning champion stepping back into the coliseum to lay waste to an opponent he's already defeated thrice before'? I don't think that's what what most people would be likely to think. I'd think, 'Hmm, he's probably nervous, he's only taken a couple of funerals before this one.'
It is said that you should hang a wind chime outside your house after a loved one has died and every time you hear it chime that is a reminder that they are close by.
Or, you know, throw it into the garbage.
Would anyone like to hazard a guess about the use of the words "showering my family and me", "shower them" and "wade through murky waters"?
I have an idea that that the repeated references to water from Crazy Davey (and, curiously, the Byars) might come from CDs need to sexualise every relationship he has. He has said that Amanda's face sometimes morphed into her father's, (and that Phil somehow knew this and was secretly glad!), he introduced Amanda's brother (who had come to speak about Amanda's death) as a good looking man and warned the women in the audience that he "was taken", he got married to Amanda with Amber and his own best friend in a double wedding, etc, etc. IDK. I'm trying to find reasons that certain words, phrases and references to water might occur. If crazy Davey is sexualising his relationships with people, might the language of sexual abuse be found in their words?
Hey J said, ".....unbelievers banded together to send crates of emergency porcelain cherubs and the purple glitter of mourning." Hahahahahaha. You are so funny! I love it.
Blackburn blog: "Unfortunately I experienced—as I’m sure you have—the gamut of “consoling” jargon, most of which I could take into a theological debate arena and rip to shreds."
Not only do memorial tributes go into the garbage, but you'd better choose your words wisely, or crazy gladiator Davey could take them into an arena (he's very keen on the violent imagery of the arena and the coliseum) and rip them to shreds.
It's strange, Trudy - that he used mobs showering gifts - because realistically, it was individuals sending a gift or maybe two - one or two gifts is just that, different people sending a gift, so unless many individuals sent multiple gifts, no-one actually 'showered' gifts. Mobs showered him with gifts? That doesn't sound like anything which is likely to have happened - mobs somehow descended upon him, showering bad taste gifts? What is that - something like a baby shower, but a death shower?
"Instead ask someone who is close to the grieving party what they really need. Meals? House-cleaning? Laundry? Yard work? A massage? These small tangible acts of service speak volumes in times of loss. These are the things they need that they can't do for themselves or, in some instances, don't even know they need."
I didn't know that about wind chimes - that's a lovely thought.
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To answer Davey's question because I won't post on his blog:
WHAT ARE SOME THINGS PEOPLE SAID/DID FOR YOU THAT WERE HELPFUL IN YOUR TIME OF GRIEF? SHARE WITH A COMMENT.
From my youth. My father died suddenly when I was sixteen - I witnessed his death, which was horrible. The thing I found most helpful was an adult mentor friend who came to where I went, to my parish priest's house. He sat beside me and held my hand for a long time, maybe an hour, during which he was silent, as was I. That was so calming and comforting - the memory can still calm and comfort me. That's all I remember from the day which followed that night. Seeing my father in his coffin helped, too; he had been blue and in much pain when he died - he looked at peace in his coffin. Sedation helped, too - for three weeks, I was sedated with diazepam.
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Just don't say anything, or as little as possible, is often best - time and presence speaks more, in my experience.
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It's probably best to avoid talking about gladiators and conquering death - talk of death being conquered seems pretty meaningless during the time in which a loved one is laid out in their coffin. It's like, well, just at the moment death doesn't appear too conquered, to me, but it might be a conversation for later.
Is offering massages as a 'your loved one just died' gift even a thing? Well, I haven't heard of that, but maybe that's what they do in Indianapolis.
When I first read the blog I thought it was a joke. Does he have anyone around him to tell him to stop!? He actually tells people that the gifts they sent were thrown in the garbage. His advice it so not send encouraging gifts only money, gift cards and vacation homes. Is this real life?
I saw this today and if this is not spot on Davey I don't know what is! hehe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kYjswEhVDE
Hey J. Thank you for sharing about your dad and what consoled you, then and now. The silent presence of someone who cares has a dignity which gift cards, cash, vacations, and massage vouchers do not, and cannot have.
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Ashley and Derek gave crazy Davey a massage (voucher) a few weeks after Amanda was murdered.. He talked about it in a sermon. Remember the backhander he offered Derek in thanks? Something like "he needs to save his money for skinny jeans and deep necked vees".
Bingo, thank you! The Swag Ministries clip is hilarious. The reveal at the end! Gold.
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After months of telling everyone that God spoke directly to him in the shower and told him Amanda had to die so that the church could "come alive" crazy Davey is moving the goal posts. Part of the consoling jargon he has had to endure from the mob, is petulantly and summarily dismissed in a sentence or two. Look at this cf.
"God needed another angel.”
No He didn’t! God doesn’t NEED anything or anyone! I’m pretty sure Weston and I need her more than He does!
“At least she’s in a better place”
I know she is! And I’m super grateful for that, BUT SHE’S NOT HERE!! That’s what sucks right now!
"It was God's plan.”
No it wasn’t! Death was not part of God’s original plan for humanity! It was Satan that came to steal, kill, and destroy!
"Your loved one would want you to be happy.” (often people say that because they’re uncomfortable with your sadness)
Oh ok. You’re right. I’m just supposed to POOF, stop being sad because she wouldn’t want me to be!
"Cherish the memories, they'll bring you peace"
But the memories are what bring so much pain right now. At this moment having loved and lost doesn’t seem better than never having loved at all.
"How about them Colts?"
Really? You think I’m thinking about sports right now?
The stuff in quotation marks is the " gamut of consoling jargon" well wishers have foisted upon him. Crazy Davey is an immature, ungrateful, nasty brat, at best. If anyone is likely to be ripped apart in the theological debate arena, it is him.
What about nothing is wasted t-shirts? Are they deserving of the garbage?
Davey is critical of any response which wasn't a gift card, cash, or holiday. Even if he thought those things it is strange he finds it appropriate to say/write them, presumably to be read by at least some of the people who said them. Imagine how difficult it must have been to find something which might have been appropriate to say or to do, yet people - 'mobs' - tried. There is an incongruence in describing the thrown away gifts as having been 'showered' upon him - showered is a positive in the context of gifts, as in a baby shower - yet he threw them in a closet and the garbage. Showered with gifts by mobs. That is so weird.
Funny video, Bingo. :)
Trudy, I thought the same thing about all that you just posted. He was the one saying God needed to take her so Davey's church could grow, his PNL church could stop being dry boned and that epic revival could come. He is the one that said it was the perfect time for her to go, that she was buying Starbucks in heaven and sipping pina coladas. He is the one that said she was in the party portal. He is the one that said, "Sure, Amanda died, but destiny". He is the one that keeps saying the valley of death can give you your greatest potential. Can Davey just go ahead and call himself out for all the insensitive, horrible things he said and did. This is his most hypocritical blog yet.
Hey Jude, I thought about all the people who took the time out to send him thoughtful gifts. They thought the sentiment would console and encourage DB,only to learn he threw them in the garbage, stomped his feet and pitched a fit because it wasn't a gift card, money or a vacation home. SMH. I wonder if he tried to return in any of the "pithy" gift for cash. Ha.
Davey is like an evil but somewhat amusing caricature of the modern day dude bro church.
Yes, I think he didn't even really think those things about what people said to him - he's just saying them to give the impression that he was beyond consolation - the tv interviews show he was gleeful. It's so insensitive, he's meant to be a pastor.
Look at that:
'It was God's plan.'
'No it wasn’t! Death was not part of God’s original plan for humanity! It was Satan that came to steal, kill, and destroy!'
Bit of a sidestep. He doesn't deny it was God's plan for Amanda, which story he has spent so much time pushing. 'It was not part of God's original plan for humanity!' - so, what is he saying - that It was not part of God's original plan for humanity, but times change, and it was God's 'plan' for Amanda' as outlined to him in the shower? So, was it God's 'plan', or Satan's 'plan' that Amanda was murdered? How about it being, more simply, the plan of the evil ****** who murdered Amanda? Ah, I forget - it was not a plan, it was a 'random home invasion'.
To be a bit more fair, he did also say that meals, laundry, and yard-work were good offers, too - but then he said the rest, which, if it doesn't cancel that out, at least makes it seem he might not be so interested in those offers as with those as with gift cards, cash, and free holidays.
I have ordered my copy of the recommended SA Course Workbook from Amazon - hopefully it will arrive on Thursday - it was less than seven pounds, bargain - I am so excited. Not the best timing, as I will be busy for the next few weeks, but I can wait, and will still find some time. I wonder did anyone else get it yet, or going to? - Mom2Many, obviously. Bobcat - or is that one you did already as 'independently at home'?
"How about them Colts?"
Really? You think I’m thinking about sports right now?
If someone had asked him "How about them Cubs?" and offered free tickets, he would have crapped himself in delight.
Yes! Mine arrived. I haven't dug in, since my husband is away all week and my eldest daughter who is planning to study it with me, got a unexpected promotion at work and has been training every day! Tonight is her last training night. Would you be interested in having a little study group? I could set up a private blog, like the other case-discussion blog.
Yes, I'd like that - count me in, please, Mom2Many. :)
HJ and mom,
I haven't studied that book yet. Will you post the Amazon link again? I will also order it and would be happy to practice along with you.
I think that a "pastor" with his eye on the big prize would, at a minimum, have studied up on etiquette. Davey's latest blog is a huge fail to that end. A gentleman (or even a pretend gentleman) would never be ungracious about a gift.
You say: "Thank you! It's so thoughtful of you!" No matter what.
You don't EVER write a blog explained that you trashed someone's gift.
Did Davey write that blog as the first match to light the fire of a bridge that is burning? Or is he really that clueless to simple manners after all this time?
I realize I am also failing as it is inappropriate to point out other's mistakes in manners, but as we know Davey reads here ... Some lessons in grace would help Resonate grow.
Manners make life nicer for everyone.
Here, Bobcat.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0985382120/
I set up a reading group here, https://sareadinggroup.wordpress.com/
It's wordpress, because I am more familiar with it and hope it gives a little more coding freedom in the comments. This theme has a highlight option, though it is probably yellow. We should be able to include underlining as well as the usual formatting things we can use here. There is no content there yet. I'll get some things set up after I get dinner prepped, particularly, a page on what formatting things we have available and how to use them. The site is set to private, so you may have to request to join.
"trying to empathize with someone’s pain enough" is the phrase that is sticking with me the most from the new blog.
I also wonder if the introduction is aimed at explaining why Amanda's funeral was not about her. He wasn't experienced.
Most of the piece is generic platitudes and responses I have read in every other "how to deal with a grieving friend" article. Davey seems very shallow, not bringing that touch of authentic, personal experience you would expect from someone with a very close loss. How can he make himself out to be an expert and a counselor to others who are grieving if he has discovered no new insight into it in his own life? Compare Hey Jude's authentic experience (Thank you for sharing it!). It is so strange the things he says that actually do come from his personal experience. I guess I'm thankful he minimizes and sticks to platitudes for the most part, because he really fails at trying to empathize with someone’s pain enough.
"God needed another angel.”
No He didn’t! God doesn’t NEED anything or anyone! I’m pretty sure Weston and I need her more than He does!
But Davey said, "...there couldn’t have been a better time in Weston’s childhood for this kind of tragic event to occur.
Let me explain.
Amanda had the primary role in the most crucial developmental 15 months of Weston life. Frankly, in the first 15 months dads cannot properly replace the nurturing an infant and toddler need and a mother can provide. When Amanda was killed, Weston was old enough that his foundation had been built. Amanda did such an incredible job with him. I’m so proud of her. It was always such a joy to watch her mother. She developed inside of him some strong rhythms for his life that helped established emotional security in his heart. He has always seemed like he feels stable.
At the same time, Weston was young enough when everything happened that he doesn’t understand Amanda’s absence. Somewhere between month 15 (when we lost Amanda) and month 20 (when I’m writing this) Weston formed the ability to understand when someone is absent from his life. My parents tell me while I was in Israel he asked about me incessantly. He never asks for Amanda. I can’t explain this, other than when she was killed his cognitive memory hadn’t developed enough to remember that she was present. So now he doesn’t necessarily feel her absence."
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-is-weston-doing
“At least she’s in a better place”
I know she is! And I’m super grateful for that, BUT SHE’S NOT HERE!! That’s what sucks right now!
But Davey said, "For those who knew Amanda well, you know she’s sun-tanning on the shores of Heaven sipping her virgin pina colada . . . Loving paradise!” he tweeted on Tuesday. “Amanda was not well-traveled, well-read, or well-to-do but the moment she stepped into eternity she heard, ‘Well Done.'"
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2015/12/03/i-love-you-lord-grieving-pastor-releases-touching-prayer-his-pregnant-wife-penned-just-one-day-before-her-tragic-murder/
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/status/671672743339941889
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/status/671818635279773696
"It was God's plan.”
No it wasn’t! Death was not part of God’s original plan for humanity! It was Satan that came to steal, kill, and destroy!
But Davey said, "I had a thought this morning in the shower and um felt like the Lord spoke to my heart and said “Davey I want my church, I want my bride to come alive. And if I’d asked you Davey before this if you were willing to give up your bride so that my bride could come alive what would you have said?”."
and,
"And I believe that, that in some way, some shape, some form, that, and we can’t wrap our minds around it theologically, God didn’t, God didn’t cause this to happen, but he allowed it, to happen in such a way, he allowed the breath of Amanda to come out of her so that the breath could be breathed into you and into me so that we could advance the gospel in a way that history books have never even told. "
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/11292015-god-talks-to-davey-in-shower.html
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Part 2
"Your loved one would want you to be happy.” (often people say that because they’re uncomfortable with your sadness)
Oh ok. You’re right. I’m just supposed to POOF, stop being sad because she wouldn’t want me to be!
But Davey said, "And so, I couldn’t fathom it at the time and, and so I said “What do you want me to do? What would you want me to do if something were to happen to you?” And she said “I would want you to spend the rest of your life, reaching the city of Indianapolis and building this church.” And uh, about a week after I, uh, uh after all of this happened I flew back into Indianapolis not sure of what god was doing now with my calling because; our calling had now, been transferred over to just me. I was now half-of so I thought the person that I used to be.
8:00 And, I remember that conversation popping into my head, and knowing then that I could walk back into this calling guilt-free, and be able to reach a city who is hopeless and who is hurting and is looking for the hope to stand on in the midst of their trials. Knowing that we could intersect a generation of these underprivileged and at-risk kids. The same kinds of kids that, that killed Amanda. That we could intersect them now because, and I can walk into that guilt-free because of this organization right here.
9:15 Fortunately, because we set everything up, I’m now on babystep 8, overnight."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/1112017-dave-ramsey-lampo-creative.html
Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps:
Baby Step 1 – $1,000 to start an Emergency Fund
Baby Step 2 – Pay off all debt using the Debt Snowball
Baby Step 3 – 3 to 6 months of expenses in savings
Baby Step 4 – Invest 15% of household income into Roth IRAs and pre-tax retirement
Baby Step 5 – College funding for children
Baby Step 6 – Pay off home early
Baby Step 7 – Build wealth and give!
http://www.biblemoneymatters.com/dave-ramseys-7-baby-steps-review-is-this-a-debt-plan-you-should-try/
"Cherish the memories, they'll bring you peace"
But the memories are what bring so much pain right now. At this moment having loved and lost doesn’t seem better than never having loved at all.
But Davey said, "I helped Jesus present her to the Father holy and blameless. If I truly love her I can completely trust her to Jesus’ perfect love. His love is infinitely better than mine."
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/i-loved-her-first
"How about them Colts?"
Really? You think I’m thinking about sports right now?
But Davey said, "9 Jan 2016
Weston and I love slow Saturday mornings. Sportscenter, books and cuddling on the couch."
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/status/685864147880407040
I requested to join, Mom2Many - I like Wordpress, too, though it's an age since I used it.
When I was looking through my old emails on this account to find how to get into my Wordpress, I found two from people here, from ages ago, who maybe no longer post or changed their user names; if either or both of you see this, sorry to have not seen your messages till now, and to not respond there - I would prefer not to enter into private email with anons, but thank you for the messages, and just as good to post here. :)
I requested an invitation too. Great comments everyone. Yes. The latest blog is one of the most hypocritical yet. Direct contradictions, as well as the utterly nonsensical, seem to be crazy Davey's stock in trade. Black is white, up is down, white is up, black is down, today. Tomorrow he will tell you the opposite and butter won't melt in his mouth.
Shallow, callous, petulant, ill tempered, calculating and unfeeling, unable to even try to empathize with others, the Davey Blackburn show is like watching a car crash in slow motion. His sermons assault the emotions and intellect. If you have any doubt about Daveys position on pregnancy, watch the first three minutes of his latest sermon.
Amanda was murdered because she was pregnant again and crazy Davey couldn't stand it. Narcissitic sociopath.
"Fortunately, because we set everything up, I’m now on babystep 8, overnight."
Hello! Indy LE are you paying attention?
Trudy! What the heck? Did he really say that? Latest sermon??
What about this on his blog?
"You would think I’d step into those settings as more of an expert—like a three-time returning champion stepping back into the coliseum to lay waste to an opponent he’s already defeated thrice before."
First of all, what the heck and who says thrice? I bet he thinks he is such a great writer. Blah! Amanda was shot three times. Leakage anyone?
Davey had only conducted two funerals at that time, so he should have said twice rather than thrice - maybe he is counting Amanda's funeral, though he did not participate, unless one counts the tweet. 'Lay waste an opponent' is so inappropriate - a funeral is for laying a person to rest. I'd be so stressed by Davey's general aggression if I were a Resonater.
He uses 'set up' a lot - there (babystep 8) he was referring to the insurance policy/ies - he could have phrased it differently, but that was what he chose to say. Maybe that's what many people woukd choose to say - here we are more likely to say that we 'took out/have taken out' an insurance policy, or we 'had/have insurance'.
Bumping up the info if anyone else would like to join us to work through the text, Statement Analysis: An ISS Course Workbook, retails $9.99
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https://vimeo.com/199027709/d173841473
"Babystep 8" quote at 9:16
". Now that I’ve experienced the loss of the person closest to me in this whole world, you would think I would feel differently about funerals. You would think I’d step into those settings as more of an expert—like a three-time returning champion stepping back into the coliseum to lay waste to an opponent he’s already defeated thrice before."
It is bizarre to say the least. Who on earth would think that attending his murdered wife's funeral would make crazy Davey feel differently (better!?) about funerals? Why would that and officiating at 2 others would make crazy Davey an "expert?" A champion? Someone who has defeated death? How deluded can you be? In fact , it is death who has laid waste to the poor decedent. The fight is over and death won. It is time to mourn.
"Any mans death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind". John Donne.
I would like to see crazy Davey step into the coliseum, though, with a hungry lion.
Bingo, M2Ms comment @2:04, pointing out Daveys contradictions, reminded me of the life insurance policy that the poor, financially struggling pastor had on his newly pregnant wife. In the latest sermon he talks about the wildly emotional mood swings experienced by pregnant women (AND (significantly) their husbands) during the first trimester. He also says that a lot of very bad decisions are made during these times.
I'm sure LE never thought to investigate the life insurance angle.
Dang. They are so clueless.
I have commented on the Raven Abaroa case before. Peter has analysed the 911 call on this blog and it is well worth revisiting. Abaroa's wife, Janet, was a young woman in her twenties, pregnant with her 2nd baby, who was murdered by being stabbed three times, during a supposed home invasion/robbery while her young son was in his crib upstairs. Abaroa claimed he was out of the house at a soccer game. It took five years (!!!) for Abaroa to be charged and arrested. He was convicted about 9 years after he murdered Janet. He subsequently pled guilty (Alford plea) and is incarcerated.
I was watching some of the trial proceedings on you tube and part of the prosecutions claims led me to wondering about the Blackburn case. Abaroa is a self confessed "A" type personality. The type of person who likes order and control. The prosecution claims that police arriving at the "burglary"/murder scene found his drawers and closet in perfect order. They had not been rummaged through. Nothing much was stolen (a computer). Given that nothing much was stolen in the Blackburn case, I wonder about the state of Davey's drawers. (No pun intended. Eww.) A little while ago someone kindly posted an APC on a Pastor White, who had contracted a teenager to enter his home and steal certain valuables, warning the teen "not to go upstairs" and steal others. I wonder, too, about the state of Alison B's house after the "robbery". If she had a Tiffany pearl necklace, it seems likely she would have had other jewelry, but it's not mentioned in the APC. Was her place ransacked? Or were things left neatly? (Except for some empty bottles) Did Larry Taylor and co. even go upstairs in the Blackburn home? If not why not? Anyway, long story short, if the rooms are too neat after a burglary, it wasn't a burglary.
Btw, the prosecution claims that Abaroa's delay in getting to his son, (he got him during the 911 call) indicates that he had no fear of an intruder in the home.
Raven Abaroa had a $500,000.00 life insurance policy on his wife.
Big difference between Abaroa and Blackburn cases: arrests have been made, based upon forensic and other evidence in the Blackburn case.
"It doesn't matter how much darkness surrounds the story of what happened that terrible November day, your LIFE shines brighter producing light and warmth and glow that radiates Jesus to all who know you and all who hear the story of your beautiful life."
It doesn't matter how much darkness surrounds the story of what happened that terrible November day...
It doesn't matter what happened that November day...
Extra information: how much darkness surrounds...the story of
The story of what happened is surrounded by darkness.
The story of what happened THAT DAY. Day. Not early morning.
Amber's language from 12/24/2016 (where she used the word "ensued") continues to fit that something happened to Amanda (Davey kissed her goodbye on 11/9/2015) earlier than pre-dawn on November 10th, 2015. "Darkness" surrounds the STORY of what happened.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211253533435890&set=a.2591341624581.2145596.1285843155&type=3&theater
Early morning is day, even if it still is dark - well, perhaps not to everyone, but I'd think a lot of people regard a new day as beginning at whatever time they rise. Isn't Amber thinking in terms of what reportedly happened that day, November 10th - I think her use of 'that day' is likely to mean that Amber does believe Amanda was attacked on that day, early morning, as opposed to the 9th.
Yes, let's continue to accuse innocent people of being murderers. That's fine here. What's not fine here is insulting someone like you. No that's a no-no here. Maybe if someone were to effectively transform this blog into the "bobcat is a murderer" blog, you would enjoy that?
"And yet in that moment, standing in the very spot Davey had found you early Tuesday morning, I couldn't bring myself to believe it."
and later in the same post:
"It doesn't matter how much darkness surrounds the story of what happened that terrible November day, your LIFE shines brighter producing light and warmth and glow that radiates Jesus to all who know you and all who hear the story of your beautiful life."
^^^ Amber differentiates between the terrible November day, and Davey finding Amanda early Tuesday morning, in the same 'blog'.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211253533435890&set=a.2591341624581.2145596.1285843155&type=3&theater
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"Evie left this world protected inside of the one person who cherished Evie's life more than her own, and immediately entered into the arms of Jesus - her very Creator, who knit her so perfectly together in her mother's womb."
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209140795538763&set=a.2591341624581.2145596.1285843155&type=3&theater
Bobcat - the whole day was surrounded by darkness - Amanda was dying. Davey says he found Amanda in the morning, when he came back from the gym - he has always described it as morning - why is not appropriate for Amber to describe it as morning, and to distinguish that time (before Amanda was taken to hospital) from the rest of the day?
I think Amanda would have been the one person to cherish her baby if no-one, besides Davey, had known she was pregnant before that morning - some Resonators knew since the Worship as a Weapon talk two days earlier, probably Amber knew from the Sunday airport drive.
I think what Amber said there shows that she knew the attack on Amanda was drawn out, and that Amanda suffered on account of being pregnant?
http://watchkeep.blogspot.com/2017/?m=1
Did anyone see this on Amy'site? I didn't, so I was shocked! Teaching young girls every part of a gun? Unbelievable!
Blogger sirensong said...
http://watchkeep.blogspot.com/2017/?m=1
Did anyone see this on Amy'site? I didn't, so I was shocked! Teaching young girls every part of a gun? Unbelievable!
May 19, 2017 at 1:21 AM
Because they're girls?
Because there's something wrong with knowing every part of a gun?
Because guns are evil?
Because "anti-gun" people can't understand many people are gun enthusiasts?
Because you have a political bias?
Because Davey's wife was shot, therefore, he's being the same old insensitive Davey?
It was about gun safety - they also offered self-defence and how to change a flat tire classes - good things for girls, as well as boys, to know. Curious though - I would be interested to know how each part of a gun relates to the life of a Christian and the Church. Davey was not down as demonstrating that, or any particular class, he was a speaker. I'd think that type of event would appeal to families who have and use guns for hunting or self-defence and want their girls to have confidence they don't need to rely on a man to fix a tire or to see off an intruder.
Amanda couldn't rely on Davey to lock the front door, and we don't know if she was able to use a gun, or if Davey still owned the gun he was gifted.
Maybe it was a variation/modern interpretation of 'put on the whole armour of Christ'.
^God^, actually - but now I am thinking it was probably not that - can't see how it could 'work'.
Amy Smith, I have a task for your investigative reporter. Davey and Amanda's parents have been telling a story about a letter they received from a former classmate "Jonathan" of Amanda's who was in "Corcoran" prison in California from (at least) November 2015 - May 2016. Supposedly, "Jonathan" went to school with Amanda for only one year, in fifth grade. "Jonathan" sent a letter to the Byars in early Mary 2016. You can review the different versions of the letter story here: http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/05/982016-cedarville-universitychapel.html
Why does the handwriting on Robin's notepaper match some of the handwriting on "Amanda's" final journal entry?
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/a.177115712703742.1073741828.155083181573662/329736697441642/?type=3&theater
DB has two new podcasts up.
http://daveyblackburn.com/podcast-1/
Still no progress in "solving" (i.e., making the evidence fit your theory) this murder?
Well, imagine that.
https://daveyblackburn.com/posts/rest
Davey, Amber and Gavin are taking a vacation together. It was scheduled to follow the first trial, which has since been pushed back, but they are keeping the vacation date.
No podcasts at your link, Anon - podcast will be online on 1st June according to his blog.
"I love golf. In fact my counselor nearly forced me to get a golf membership to a local country club."
Davey's lastest blog.
So, where did he get a golf membership - at a swanky Florida golf club? Lol.
Blogger Hey Jude said...
So, where did he get a golf membership - at a swanky Florida golf club? Lol.
May 20, 2017 at 9:21 AM
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I'm pretty sure Florida would not be "local" to Indy.
Is this the same counselor that asked Davey if Amanda would say yes to come to Indy if she knew she would be beaten, sexually assaulted, teeth knocked out and shot three times? Davey chewed on it for a bit and decided yes Amanda led the way in surrender for the sake of Indy. bleh.
Anon, he doesn't say he joined a local club, and his counsellor only 'nearly' forced him - either he is being funny there and he didn't need any persuasion, or he didn't join a local club, preferring to play elsewhere, or whilst on vacation. Not that it matters.
'I love golf. In fact my counselor nearly forced me to get a golf membership to a local country club. He told me it’s well worth the investment into myself to make sure I finish well this race of pastoring and parenting. Sometimes I’ll golf with some other guys, but honestly, I enjoy going out by myself too. I’ll put a podcast in my headphones and walk 18 holes in solitude. It’s wonderful.'
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That counsellor is so ennabling, bless. :)
This was a breakout session at the young girls retreat in which Davey was the main speaker. He's inappropriate in many ways, foremost his degradation of women when he speaks and gravitational pull to violent imagery in his messages:
"This will be a fun, but also educational breakout. You will learn all the parts and the pieces of a gun and how they relate to the life of a Christian & the Church."
How fitting I guess that the main speaker at this retreat preached a sermon "Worship as a Weapon" depicting murder by gunshots to fight worry as a Christian 2 days before his pregnant wife was murdered in the same manner.
Q: Davey, why do you have a golf membership at the country club, when you're supposed to be building a world-changing ministry in the inner city of Indy?
A: My counselor made me get it.
Davey, Amber and Gavin are hitting the road (off social media!) during the week that Jalen Watson (court date 5/26) may well make a plea deal...and Davey mentions ministry "abroad"...
Is he (are they) going on the lam?
Golf club membership does not come cheap - Crossfit is also costly compared to other gym/fitness clubs - he must have a good income to be able to do both in addition to the vacations. They no longer say how many salvations at Resonate each week - so are numbers no longer a priority, or no salvations? Perhaps motivational speaking pays well - wouldn't have thought that was very lucrative in church circles, more expenses and a token payment, IDK.
'Babystep eight overnight.' That is so annoying how he said that, so pleased with himself.
Davey, Amber and Gavin are hitting the road (off social media!) during the week that Jalen Watson (court date 5/26) may well make a plea deal...and Davey mentions ministry "abroad"...
Is he (are they) going on the lam?
Lol!
Oh good lord. Bobcat, you live in an alternate reality.
Bobcat, I am a little surprised that Amber and Gavin are still so chummy with DB. I know ANON will say because they know DB didn't murder AB. Even if you take him murdering AB out of the equation, the horrible, crude, insensitive things he has repeatedly said since her murder are reason enough to stay far away. This case is just bizarre. I don't think we will ever find out the truth. I think the thugs will finally settle on plea deals and we will never know what actually happened.
Bingo,
You're right; we may not find out Davey's involvement in Amanda's murder
but we will get to see his failure as a "pastor" play out. He has no gift for
assembling an effective message, no ability to even fake compassion, no
obvious interest in the souls for others.
Right now he has Amanda's death and his faux "grief" to fan up publicity
and get gigs for him but that will prove fleeting. Someone else with a better
story will come along and chances are good no one is going to be inviting him
back for a second speech. The only way he can sell that lying book is in
back-of-the-room sales. If you're not speaking in any rooms full of buyers,
whoops, no sales!
If we can't see his involvement in Amanda's death outed, I look forward to
the day we can google his name and nothing comes up. That means all his
hopes of being the next Furtick/Noble/Whoever have been dashed. I'll
settle for that because being a nobody will kill Davey!
"Assuming Amber's eyeballs-deep involvement in a ruse framing LT & Co.; IF the rest of the family knows, and Davey has 'confessed' to them, it may explain why they stay silent."
^^This^^
Concerned you are so right. Even basic concepts such as keep holy the sabbath day have been misconstrued to mean something self serving and beneficial to his shallow, hedonistic self. The sabbath is a day spent in prayer and worship. But not for crazy Davey. For him, it's a day for total self indulgence, including sex (disgustingly referred to as "dessert" by the revolting pig of a pastor.) Behold the sacred sabbath, held on a Friday, as described by crazy Davey.
Friday we would drop Weston off with Amanda’s grandmother for the day and not pick him up until Saturday morning (as an aside, parents, this is one of the healthiest things you can do for your marriage and for your kids—carve out consistent time together as a couple without your kids . . . not doing this is living under the illusion that the world and your kids always need you. You will consistently feel burned out if you try to take on that Messiah complex). Then Amanda and I would spend the day with our phones off, brunching, laying around the house reading, often with a fire in the fireplace and candle aroma filling the living room. We’d set Pandora radio to our favorite relaxing music station and just enjoy each other’s company in peace. No work. No building. No achieving. No pressing. No striving. No trying to push the ball forward. Just simply resting. Inevitably that time together would lead to the most beautiful times of intimacy and connection. In the evening we’d go to one of our favorite restaurants, or try a new one, whatever we were in the mood for, and of course cap the night off with dessert . . . and most of the time “dessert.” Sabbaths were the most beautiful of days in each season of life. They always felt like a little escape from the stresses of church planting and parenting.
Hey Davey, the reason you are supposed to rest and not work on the Sabbath is to worship God, not yourself.
Davey's fantasy Sabbath memory is heavy on "would" language. He was probably taking his stud baby to football on daddy dates.
Concerned, exactly!!! Who can stand him for much longer?
As far as the Sabbath, yes Trudy it is self-serving just like everything Davey does. Most of it is also most likely not true. Also, the fact you have to pawn your child off on someone else in order to "Sabbath" is laughable. Who drops their young baby off once a week for over 24 hours? That is a once a month kind of thing.
He tries to portray his marriage as something so healthy, romantic and blissful. Everyone who watched the Love Song series knows that is just laughable!
"I’m grateful that Amanda and I weren’t in this middle of some like huge fight, and we weren’t on speaking terms; we couldn’t…talk, we couldn’t reconcile. We couldn’t talk to each other. We/were had this animosity or this tension between us I’m glad, and I’m grateful that that wasn’t the case ... I’m so glad that we didn’t have that. I’m so glad that there were some really good peace har, peaceful harm-uh, harmonious times, right before leading up to her death."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/942016-what-happens-when-you-die-week-5.html
He sure does say "leading up to her death" a lot! Wasn't her death was sudden and unexpected. It is not like she slowly died from cancer. Very odd verbiage.
Resonate is not growing. It looks smaller than it was when Amanda was alive and well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUXIRFXAJnT/?taken-by=jermhendricks&hl=en
Attendance is so bad that Davey has changed his church service time. It will now be at 10:15am, so hopefully the 23 parishioners pictured in the IG post above will be able to make the new service time.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUaJXImjBfF/?taken-by=resonateindy&hl=en
Disgusting. Resonate people. Zero judgment.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1807245636258368&id=100009188483818
And what does Peter say about those who get a thrill when witnessing horrific injury to others?
Anon, yes, the three Travis, Jeremy and Derrick are the church leaders under Crazy Davey. The stuff posted is disgusting. If you are in INDY, run, don't walk as far from Resonate as your feet will take you!! It looks like most people have. The church is not thriving. It is dwindling.
What kind of plea deal could JW, LT and DG be offered on a felony murder? LWOP? I think they will all plead not guilty and take their chances with a jury. Felony murder covers acts preceding, during and immediately after the commission of a crime - so even if JW and DG deny entering Amanda's home (which they will) they can be convicted. LT will say that he was under he influence of drugs and alcohol and has zero memory of the murder. (Not an excuse but has been known to create a sort of reasonable doubt on soft juries). Finger prints and or DNA retrieved from the swisher sweets packets (we don't know what forensics have) may make for compelling BUT still circumstantial evidence. they are in serious trouble, especially LT.
Davey is away on yet another holiday, without Weston, again. But this is the father who left his 15 month old child - who was in the house while his mother was murdered - to sit by the pool with PN, and walk on the beach with Miss Whoever she was. According to Davey, the poor child asked for his father constantly while he was away. Davey has all but abandoned Weston, relying on others to care for him. Leaving him alone for weeks at a stretch. No matter what he writes in his blog, Davy's unbridled delight in the aftermath of Amandas murder has been as obvious as it is disturbing for those of us watching. He can't rewrite history. Social media will tell the story. He has been on holiday since November 2015 (Also before this date, but now he has a lot more money and freedom to indulge himself. - RIP Amanda and Evie).
The horrific fallout from Amanda's death is continuing for many. When is crazy Davey going to use this tragedy to benefit someone other than himself? If crazy Davey wasn't involved in Amanda's murder, why hasn't he done anything about it? Why doesn't he speak (for more than a minute) about gang violence in a sermon? How about a series of sermons like the five week money series? Why doesn't he seek to understand the cycles of poverty, crime and drugs experienced by the youth in Indianapolis who (he claims) they came to help? He should go to the jails and the ghettos and share the gospel. How powerful would it be for a murderer to hear that they are forgiven? He can't do it because he commissioned the murder. Even his dark heart baulks at such hypocrisy. So he buys new houses, cars and clothes, he plays golf and goes to the beach and the mountains and Cubs games and Disneyland and holidays, holidays, holidays while he blogs about his grief.
He doesn't blog about grief. Pain and healing, but not grief.
I'm pleased whenever I know Weston is going to either of his grandparents' while Davey is on vacation - that's at least some weeks during which Davey is not spanking him for being a two year old. Brenda is hoping to potty-train him this time - good luck, Weston and Brenda. I think Davey doesn't have the patience, and Weston probably enjoys his breaks from Davey's experimental parenting - at least he tries, he has from what he says, been reading up on parenting and child development, so maybe things have improved for Weston.
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The most recent message was odd - Davey singing children's Bible songs, and going on about Gladiator again. His new little sardonic laugh the last several weeks - what's that about? I think he's being a bit of a drama queen, going on about what God would say to a dead Davey and a dead Zac.
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I am busy for some weeks now - I will try to keep up. It's easier to listen than to read or write - don't need to stop in order to listen. :)
I watched a bit of his last sermon after seeing the pic of the small congregation last week. If you look at the audience, several look very uncomfortable, especially the couple in the front with crossed arms. I watched bits and snippets as I can't stomach much. At one point, he compares reading the bible to "taking a hit." At one point, he spends about 5 minutes making fun of a kid that peed in the playground that Weston was playing. DB even grabs himself several times and then does an explosion motion from his privates explaining the pee incident. He also proves himself to be a pathological liar once again as he tells his congregation that he will be taking his very first vacation since Amanda "passed" without Weston. What about the trip to Israel? What about the mountain and beach retreats where he openly tells everyone he left Weston with relatives. Why does he lie when he doesn't even need to lie?
Trudy, I hope they don't take plea deals and it does go to trial. I really want to hear the 911 call and see Davey on the stand. The Swisher Sweets were possibly planted there. I still think Larry was set up. Davey was sure specific to tell the cops that those Swisher Sweets didn't belong on the counter, even though he was sure it was just a miscarriage. SMH
Great post Trudy. So true. And no he doesn't talk about grief, Bobcat, good catch. I sure wish we had ALL the evidence the court has. I'm wondering if they noticed the purse, cards etc.., were moved from the floor.
Pastor Terry Thompson (Pastor at Byars former church): (11/22/2015)
"...But after spending the morning with them as they said their final goodbyes to Amanda, I observed several things ... They led in a worship service at Amanda's bedside, minutes after her promotion to glory."
Amanda's father Phil Byars:
(9/8/2016) "As we stood by her bed and the doctors pronounced her dead, um. The family gathered around and our friends gathered around and everybody said “Let’s sing. Let’s just sing. Let’s worship, before the Lord”. ... I couldn’t even look at the family. I couldn’t even look at my daughter. I had to just turn, to the wall, and I just, with everything I was so Mad and so Angry. ... I was not angry at the three men. I wasn’t angry at the one trigger guy that took my daughter’s life. I was mad at the sin and the wickedness and the darkness that has entered into this world. Because those boys were just doing the will of their father the devil, Jesus tells us."
(2/16/2017) "The doctors came in and declared her dead and, um. ... And we all huddled around her bed, in the hospital room, and um, some of the- I don’t remember, I don’t remember now who, started singing. But somebody started singing and they started worshiping and, I turned my face to the wall. And I’m like, “I am NOT gonna sing this”. Because I was Mad."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html
Robin: "He [Weston] was, a little lost without his mommy. And she was, just, stolen away."
http://www.abc57.com/story/33690837/amanda-blackburns-mom-talks-about-her-daughters-legacy-a-year-after-her-death
1In those days Hezekiah became ill and was at the point of death. The prophet Isaiah son of Amoz went to him and said, “This is what the Lord says: Put your house in order, because you are going to die; you will not recover.”
2Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, 3“Remember, Lord, how I have walked before you faithfully and with wholehearted devotion and have done what is good in your eyes.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly.
Isaiah 38
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https://lizsarno.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/turn-your-face-to-the-wall/
Where does embellishment cross the line over to complicity?
Bobcat said...
"Where does embellishment cross the line over to complicity?"
Intention.
Variation in accounts proves veracity, not deceipt. If all details line up across the board, you know the story has been "gotten straight" between the players. Fluctuating details proves people are telling their own perspective and choosing which details to include or remove according to their personal memory of events.
Phil expresses more disgust at "the" family, than the thugs.
His anger at what was done to Amanda is natural and expected.
It is unexpected for his turmoil to be about "the" family.
He knows it was a setup, and he would have stopped it if it were up to him. (his words)
WHO or what possible larger organization (Wesleyan connections?) would have decision making authority/power over Phil, that Phil would angrily submit to?
Robin is his world (his words). Robin was up having two coffees while Phil slept. She "told" him what happened. By the time he got wind of everything, it was too late for him to stop anything.
"That night we were in the hotel room, and I had some- ... See the problem is, I didn’t know what I was gonna do. And I was desperate. And I sat in that room, that hotel- the hotel room, and I just, I, Robin was in the shower. I’m thanking God she was in the shower, because the, the, the- And I was saying ‘God, ... I’m gonna go down and I’m gonna- I’m getting pulled down into this hole and I’m never gonna come out. I don’t know what to do and I know you don’t give us more than we can handle and I know you’ve got this under control and I know you’re gonna help me but you’ve gotta just get me out of this one. ... And I just thank him, because, you guys, I don’t, I didn’t know what I, where I was headed for."
8/20/2015 Amanda receives Chevy Cruze
https://www.facebook.com/blackburndavey/photos/pcb.1469003183112067/1469002756445443/?type=3&theater
10/17/2015 Davey takes Weston to football game in Cruze
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/status/655405338154242049
2/28/2017 Davey blogs about Cruze:
"She glanced over at me and hesitated before she started, "Davey, I think we should pray about whether or not we should give this car away to someone who needs it more than us."
I was dumbfounded! Who needed this car more than us? It was clearly a Godsend in our greatest time of need! I was ready to rebuke her in the name of Jesus!
Shocked I put my head against the headrest of my seat with my mouth open and stared at the brake lights in the line of traffic in front of us. My wife was willing to give away what she wanted - and perhaps needed - most at that time."
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/the-last-book
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I guess he talked her out of it until October, at least...
Bobcat @ 11.37 - Is it not that Phil was struggling against the desire to kill someone for what had been done to his daughter? How else might a father be expected to react? Phil's rage has been barely concealed at times, despite his best efforts.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nothing-is-wasted-podcast/id1240897768?mt=2
Davey has a new podcast out on itunes.
Jalen Watson:
Additional discover filed yesterday 5/25/2017
Pretrial Conference 5/26/2017:
Parties not requesting trial dates at this time.
Oral motion for continuance filed and granted.
Next pretrial conference scheduled for 7/14/2017 (four days after Diano's scheduled trial date)
Why would they not want trial dates? Are they trying to gather more evidence? It has been 20 months. What is the hold up?
Thanks for sharing the podcast Bobcat. Davey's hair in that picture is ridiculous. It is like 4 inches high. You can tell he thinks he looks really good in that purple shirt and tight leather jacket.
"Now we talked about the fact that betrayal is at the foundation, is satanic, but in this case it was actually of Satan himself. First of all, he goes out and he betrays Jesus in the background, then Satan puts it into the heart of Judas to betray Jesus, and now it says, we find out, that Satan actually entered into him. Now we don't have time to get into this, but this is pre Holy Spirit, this is pre Holy Spirit living inside of the believer, okay, and so Satan actually enters into him. I believe that Satan actually possessed him at this point, Satan himself, not a demon. Satan himself actually possessed Judas in order to kill Jesus. And this is scary here because Jesus says to him - I don't know who ‘him’ is, at this point, it could very well be that he looked right through Judas and looked right to Satan, and said, "What you're going to do, do quickly." - but it reveals - what you need to understand is that betrayal always reveals what's in the heart of a person. Jesus said that what comes out of the heart, the overflow of the heart, is what comes out of our mouths and what we do. In fact, the good that we do is from the good that is stored up in our heart, and the evil, the bad that we do, is from the bad that we have stored up in our hearts."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/10/9182016-what-kind-of-kiss-is-that.html
Phil has too much love for Davey to condemn him. It was Satan himself inside of Davey -- not Davey.
He goes on to talk about four ways to deal with betrayal...
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/10/9182016-what-kind-of-kiss-is-that.html
"First, you gotta face it, and just understand, what I'm trying to help you understand is that betrayal is going to come, because we live in a broken sinful world with broken sinful people. Okay? So when it comes face it, but here's how we face it, here’s how God's people face betrayal. ...
What did Jesus' people do? You face it, and you go to him. No, hunking way, Phil. If you're like me, okay, if you're like me, when someone hurts me and betrays me, this is how my spirit is. 'You owe me. You have sinned against me and you owe me. I ain't going to you - you're coming to me, and you're gonna get it right, and I'm going to punish you until you do come and get it right.' That's not what Jesus people do. Look at this, in Matthew 18:15, Jesus says, 'If your brother sins against you, go to him and show him his fault.’ Now that seems backward, because they sinned against us - almost everything Jesus says is counter intuitive and backwards. No, because you have me, and you're in me, you go to them. If they've sinned against you, you go to them. And you don't go to them and say, "You sinned against me!" Get it right. That's not how we're supposed to go in love, and in patience, and in gentleness, and we're supposed to go to restore the relationship and point it out, because here's a truth.
Sometimes people betray us and hurt us, and they don't know it. Is that true? And sometimes that happens. In this case it's not - Judas deliberately did it, but sometimes people hurt us and they don't know it, so we give them an opportunity, but when we go to them, and we point it out - we give them an opportunity to say “You're right, I was wrong - I repent.”, so that we can all live happily ever after. But in, we're supposed to face it, and go - question is, have you see that person in the face, have you tried? Can you go to them? Will you go to them?"
"Second thing is, feel it. Use the energy of that loss, that grief, that pain, that anger that you feel against that person who sinned against you, and move forward in victory, serving everybody around you, determined you're never going to hurt anybody like that again. Or, or - period. Now, you can go to those people that have hurt you, and serve them. No hunking way. They don't deserve it, I'm not doing it. But what's the example? Jesus knew what was in the heart of Judas, and Jesus got down and did the hard thing, and washed his feet. That's what Jesus people do.
Thirdly, let it go. Let it go. If you can't fix it, you've gone to them, and you've tried to fix it, and if you can't fix it, and they don't change, you let it go. I can't get into this because I don't have time, but I just want to say, and some of you will probably disagree with me, and that's okay, but this is what I believe the scripture teaches, is that you cannot forgive those who do not request your forgiveness. God never forgives anyone who doesn't repent, and ask for their - for his forgiveness. You never see that in scripture. But there's an interesting thing that happens in the Body of Jesus Christ - you've got a person, you've gone to them, you've tried to fix it, and they will not repent of it, and they will not get it right with you. We don't hold that debt against them, in the way that we treat them, in the way that we respond to them, because Jesus people do stuff like this: love their enemies. Jesus said love your enemies, and do good to those, and serve those who mistreat you. So if you can't go to that person and get it fixed with them, then you let it go, you release them, and you love them, and you serve them, and you do good things for them.
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And the final thing I just wanna say to you is we need to examine ourselves."
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I believe the answer to why the "family" stays quiet; is CYA, and hope against hope that "Satan" doesn't hurt anyone else "like that again".
Phil's "kiss" sermon came one week after the family sat on the stage at Resonate with Davey; and two weeks after Davey's sermon in which he tells of rushing into the bathroom and kissing Amanda goodbye the morning of 11/9/2015, before raising a finger to his mouth.
It also came one day after Brenda Lepchenko claimed to be Davey (three times) on facebook.
And the following week, 9/25/2016, Me2l posted a list of questions for Peter here, wondering if Davey was "good enough" to outsmart LE.
RIP Amanda Grace Byars Blackburn.
I have just returned from helping my 84 and 85 year old parents move from the house in which they've lived for 49 years into an independent living villa. The villa is only 320 square feet smaller than their house, has an attached garage, dishwasher, washer/dryer, big screened terrace - it's beautiful. My dad has wanted to move to a smaller place with no maintenance for years already - mom has resisted - it finally happened.
Mom has cried more / shown more grief and anger this past month - over leaving their house - than Davey Blackburn has shown in the last year and a half over Amanda's shocking, unexpected, random, brutal death.
Please keep posting, Bobcat and others - people are reading here even if not always posting - "this story" needs to stay fresh and not fade away.
Blogger Bobcat said...
Phil's "kiss" sermon came one week after the family sat on the stage at Resonate with Davey; and two weeks after Davey's sermon in which he tells of rushing into the bathroom and kissing Amanda goodbye the morning of 11/9/2015, before raising a finger to his mouth.
It also came one day after Brenda Lepchenko claimed to be Davey (three times) on facebook.
And the following week, 9/25/2016, Me2l posted a list of questions for Peter here, wondering if Davey was "good enough" to outsmart LE.
May 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM
Boo!
Bobcat has to be the worst analyst ever, and I'm wondering why/how Peter can stomach it, knowing how out in left field she is. Peter knows. Peter knows. I guess the integrity is not there.
Bird, I didn't say bobcat's post was analysis. I said she's the very worst analyst. It was simply an observation based upon months of her analyses, theories, fiction, fantasy, and story writing. Most of what bobcat does here is not analysis. It's the musings of a bored person who spends almost 24/7 on this blog conjecturing from the base of an unhealthy obsession.
True - pointing out obvious discrepancies in storytelling and embellishment is not analysis.
However, it reveals multiple perspectives.
From each perspective, there is either intent to deceive or not.
Davey has been determined to have an intent to deceive and guilty knowledge.
Exploring discrepancies in statements of those closest to him are useful exercises in unraveling what really happened to Amanda Blackburn on 11/9 and 11/10/2015.
Anon @ 9:24 Your statement is tyrannical propaganda and indicates a need to persuade readers to disregard my posts. It belies the weakness of your position.
Bobcat said....
Anon @ 9:24 Your statement is tyrannical propaganda and indicates a need to persuade readers to disregard my posts. It belies the weakness of your position.
May 28, 2017 at 11:51 AM
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I firmly disagree with your posts, so yes, I suppose I would hope people disregard much of your nonsense.
Is there something wrong with that? If you're going to blather on with some of the trash you post, you probably should toughen up and expect some disagreement. Are you above being criticized?
Come down to earth, bobcat. Besides, your analysis pretty much sucks most of the time.
Your use of "belie" is a poor choice, although I know how you were trying to apply it. I could supply a couple of more apropos words if you'd like.
be·lie
bəˈlī/
verb
3rd person present: belies
1.
(of an appearance) fail to give a true notion or impression of (something); disguise or contradict.
"his lively alert manner belied his years"
synonyms: contradict, be at odds with, call into question, show/prove to be false, disprove, debunk, discredit, controvert, negate;formalconfute
"his eyes belied his words"
2.
fail to fulfill or justify (a claim or expectation); betray.
"the notebooks belie Darwin's later recollection"
https://www.facebook.com/notes/newspring-church/an-announcement-to-the-newspring-church-family/195997202121/
An Announcement to the NewSpring Church Family
December 4, 2009 at 1:58pm
Recently, certain events occurred that Pastor Perry and the Church’s leadership feel the NewSpring Church family needs to know about.
Earlier this year, a critic of the church from the Anderson community created a critical blog site and posted numerous blogs disagreeing with the methods of NewSpring Church and the messages that Pastor Perry has preached, including basic theological doctrine.
In February an employee of the church met with this individual in an attempt to resolve any misunderstandings and listen to his concerns. Since that meeting, the frequency and intensity of the critical blogs have increased.
In the summer of 2009, one NewSpring employee and two volunteers, acting on their own accord and unbeknownst to the Church, began a wholly inappropriate campaign directed at the author of the blog site. None of their actions were known to, or condoned by, the Church or its leadership in any way.
When the Church’s leadership was contacted by the author of the blog site regarding the activities of these three individuals, the Church requested proof substantiating his claims. None was provided. However, he claimed he felt there was a conspiracy by the church’s leadership causing and encouraging this harassment.
When the church later found out that inappropriate activity had taken place by an employee and two volunteers, the employee was immediately terminated and the two volunteers were removed from service to the Church.
Around the same time, a NewSpring executive pastor and his wife adopted a child that, coincidentally, the author of the blog site and his wife were also seeking to adopt. The decision with whom to place the child was made solely by the birth mother and was what she considered to be in the best interest of the child. Adoption is a legal process and it is a matter of public record that the Church was not a party to this adoption nor did the Church attempt to influence its outcome in any way.
On October 31st, the author of the blog site emailed the Church broadly outlining complaints of harassment and interference with his adoption efforts, and asking to meet with a Church representative. On November 17th, counsel for the Church met with the blog site author in an effort to resolve any conflicts he had with Pastor Perry or the Church. In the course of that meeting, the blog site author outlined a detailed list of grievances against the Church and his contention that there was a conspiracy by the Church to interfere with the adoption of a child.
Those grievances also included his belief that the church knowingly and willingly allowed this harassment and even encouraged it.
The blog site author ended the meeting with NewSpring’s counsel with a demand for payment of one and a half million dollars ($1,500,000.00) if he was allowed to share the pulpit with Pastor Perry during the Church’s weekend services or through various other “public options” in order to denounce the Church, its leadership, and its “culture of hatred.” Alternatively, the blog site author demanded payment of three million dollars ($3,000,000.00) from the Church in exchange for him to not reveal his complaints against the Church to the public. The Church, of course, rejected both offers.
NewSpring Church will not be subjected to hollow and exaggerated threats by critics of the Church seeking outrageous sums of money.
The Church is offering ministerial counseling to its former employee and two volunteers and is hopeful that it will, over time, result in their complete repentance and spiritual restoration. Pastor Perry and NewSpring continue to pray for all involved in this unfortunate situation.
Comment after above:
"My family and I were members for 4 years or longer. I LOVED my church, my kids loved this church, my ex-husband even loved this church. We bought it hook line and sinker. Then the senior managenment team decided my disabled son could no longer come to youth, even though we had been involved with the church and the youth since 2003. Things were said to me by Jason Wilson, Brad Cooper Shane Duffy, all with Perry's approval, that would make your blood grow cold. So much so that the church meet with me to apologize. Then they started to treat us like leapers. We left the church in 2007. Since that time I have heard many stories that just don't add up. I urge all of you to not just assume this guys is a nut. I have never heard of him and have no affilation with him. All I know is how they treated me and my family. Don't bury your heads in the sand, ask question, make them explain. You make be surprized just how far you DON'T get."
WHY did Phil Byars go to Newspring in Anderson with Davey?
http://www.walb.com/story/30599317/husband-father-speak-about-loss-of-amanda-blackburn
"They are visiting from Indiana. Davey used to work at NewSpring (during the time of the "Holy Rage" pajama pages harassment) and still has strong connections there."
http://pit.lefora.com/topic/3443757#.WTA2UGjyuUk
Recap: September 2, 2016
12:13 AM Updated blog to include statements to Uncle Ken Murphy:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/06/11102015-i-had-no-idea-daveys-evolving.html?m=1
shared here (scroll down):
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/06/amanda-blackburn-murder-part-four.html?commentPage=15
12:42 AM Anonymous analysis (following 12:13 AM post):
"And you just, go through all of those things in your mind, but especially the, the unlocked door. Right. It was just kind of, it was kind of habit for us, like I would leave in the morning. She was about to get up, anyways, and so, I wouldn't lock the door."
This "concern" of his that he is "feigning" concern about is actually a diversion.
His use of the word "those" indicates he is fabricating concerns, he's thinking what should I say? He's pulling the thought of the unlocked door into his head from a "distance".
Why? If Amanda was shot that morning he would merely need to fake concern over the door but if you look at his language, he is also feigning the time he is concerned about. His mind is at the time it happened (the previous night)...that is why he says "those" things, "those" things (that happened in the morning).
Again, this speaks of the timing of events. The feigned concern over the door pulled in from a distance is due to the fact that that open door is NOT what led to Amanda's death.
11:41 AM Charlene Patterson - facebook friend of none other than Newspring's Brad Cooper left feedback on Deception Indicated's facebook page:
"This page is highly offensive and exploitive of a very tragic situation. How dare this person(or people) create such a page to draw suspicion when the criminals that perpetrated this crime have already been brought to justice. This is not okay at all.
https://www.facebook.com/charpatt8182/posts/10104319050365367:0
In the same string of comments above, the transcript from Cypress Church was posted on August 29. The transcript where Davey puts himself two arms length away "with" Larry Taylor.
(Perry Noble is out of rehab at that point)
On August 31, another friend of Brad Cooper's posted a negative review of Deception Indicated.
"Totally false page. This is total hate for someone who is sharing his wife's story of tragedy and the triumph that we have in Christ even in death. Christ came to die for us sinners, so we can live in triumph and walk in hope because God loves us enough to send His Son to die for our sins. God want us to have a relationship with Him. He loves His children. He wants the best for us. THE BEST IS YET TO COME"
https://www.facebook.com/heather.nealey.7/posts/1245299785514814:0
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Who will fall next?
Amber's post 12/29/15, describing Amanda's home on 11/13/15
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10207974233535442
Reposted to Davey's blog 6/3/16
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/home
"Her Autumn candle was sitting on her kitchen countertop. There were two and a half pieces of candy corn in her candy bowl. Her pantry was stocked full of the best snacks and treats. The pictures on her fridge were updated with pictures I had never seen, and I stopped to take in all of the wonderful memories she had made. She had added a few rustic pieces of furniture to her living and dining room that I couldn't help but notice and admire. Her laundry was done and her closet was so perfectly organized. She literally had a place for everything and everything was in its place. Her Bible and journal were sitting where they always were. Her chalkboard in her dining room read - "You will keep in PERFECT PEACE, him whose mind is STEADFAST, because he TRUSTS in you." I couldn't help but think that in the midst of utter tragedy taking place in her own home, there these very words were written. As if God planted them there not only as a reminder to Amanda - something for her to glean strength and courage from in those final moments - but as a reminder to all who are left on this earth - To TRUST Him - To Remain STEADFAST - and to look to God alone for PERFECT PEACE."
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Bible and journal - "Where they always were" i.e. "normal"
Everything is described as belonging to "her" - Davey no longer has joint ownership of:
Autumn candle
kitchen countertop
candy bowl
pantry
fridge
memories
living room
laundry
closet
chalkboard
dining room
"own" home
The entire scene now belongs to Amanda alone - and the words God "planted" for her to see as she suffered.
The 'sitting there' is interesting, Bobcat. I'd like to know if Amber's personification of the objects point to Amber having arranged them herself, which would support your belief that Amber helped with a cover up - or if it can mean that Amber believes, knows, or suspects someone other than Amanda arranged the items, but for her own reasons, declines to say that? I know personification of an object can mean the person saying it placed the item/s themselves - what, though, if they believed someone other than the expected person had done that - might then they say 'sitting there'? I'd like that to be so, because that would support my belief that Amber is not involved, but rather finds it prudent not to say everything she knows or thinks.
Autumn candle might be interesting because elsewhere (not sure if it was Amber who said it) someone said Amanda always had a Christmas candle for decoration - but maybe not so interesting, as it was still early November - she may have intended to use up the Autumn candle and only add the Christmas candle tomthe decorations nearer to Christmas, Still, there seem some discrepancies between what Amanda usually did and how the Christmas decorations - and possibly other things were. I have my doubts that Amanda had decorated for Christmas herself. Also, that was pretty late Monday night laundry if it all had been done...Neighbours, friends - someone putting things straight for Davey and Weston, but not really doing it quite as Amanda would have done it, maybe?
I am curious about the 'sitting there', and if it is most likely to mean Amber arranged them, or if it could also mean that she is thinking, or considering the possibility, that someone other than Amanda had arranged the items.
The autumn candle, bible and journal were all "sitting".
Yes, Amanda would have put out her balsam candle along with her Christmas decorations that Davey's father spoke of being overwhelmed by...
For some reason, Amber's public narrative on 12/29/15 is that Amanda had not yet decorated for Christmas.
HJ, I'd also like to think Amber was not involved in a coverup on Monday, but her narratives suggest otherwise - unless someone else wrote them.
Who else would be the writer?
Ashley?
Meg?
And why would Amber allow someone else to do her writing?
Jalen Watson's final pretrial conference WAS scheduled for 5/26/17.
On 5/25/17, Discoveries were filed by the State in the records of all three thugs, and Jalen's trial date was rescheduled to AFTER Diano's trial.
On 5/31/17, Diano Gordon filed a motion to exclude autopsy photographs and requested a hearing.
Interesting.
"Her closet was so perfectly organised. She literally had a place for everything and everything was in its place."
Those "burglars" must have been OCD about neatness to have put everything back, perfectly organised, after they'd "burgled" the place, because it sure wasn't Amanda.
A few weeks ago I mentioned that Raven Abaroa's closet was very neat and tidy after his "home invasion". It was one of the clues that LE used to determine that the crime was staged.
The cleaning company was there the day after AB died, wouldn't they have removed carpets, painted moved things around. I only know of DB's father being in the house before they came (to pick something up for DB. Didn't he say the housesed as to how she saw the house as described in her was decorated for Christmas? I thought Amber went after the cleaners were there, and it sounds like Halloween candy was still out. I'm confused, did DB go back in and move her bible and journal?
Didn't he say the house was decorated for Christmas? I'm confused as how she saw the house the way she described in her journal.
Sorry, I should have reread before I posted.
I'm confused, did DB go back in and move her bible and journal?
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SA indicates that Amber (or whoever wrote her facebook "blog") may have placed Amanda's bible and journal "where they always were", which also indicates that they were not in their normal spot. The author moved Amanda's journal.
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It is interesting that Amanda's supposed final journal entry handwriting is mostly different from her earlier entries, but mostly similar to a notepage (listing what appear to be talking points) that Robin held in an interview a year later.
Ok, Yes Bobcat, Amber's entries are odd. They absolutely make no sense. Did the police go back in a put everything back in perfect place? Did the carpet cleaners tidy it all back up in an orderly, beautiful fashion? Why would her journal be placed back where she always kept it when Davey had it the whole time, using it to write his perfect story? One time she writes as though there was no Christmas decorations. The next time she writes about the tree being the very first thing she sees. This past Christmas, she writes that Amanda put all her decorations up in perfect order from the previous year which would be impossible since Amanda was dead.
Oh my gosh DB is developing curriculum now. He just won't stop until he finds something that will work. Think about it. He is has been in Indy for what 6 years and still only has a handful congregation but he thinks he can start developing biblical curriculum. I am concerned for anyone that chooses to study under him. I am sure it is just another way for him to try to gain donations. He is so delusional.
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On 11/13/15, Amber wrote her first Facebook "blog", ending with the lyrical "Turn your eyes upon Jesus...".
On 11/17/15, Davey reads Amanda's "final journal entry" which begins with the same lyrics (but different handwriting).
Don't look here...look at Jesus...
I think when Phil says he couldn't look at the family, "I couldn't look at my daughter", he is talking about Amber.
Bingo, he says he has"30" (liars number 3 included) "or so" leaders.
Ok, why would Gordon ask that autopsy pics be taken out? I have never heard of such? I would think that autopsy pics would have to be in court to show proof that she was actually shot? They didn't get any pics of her in the home because Davey didn't call the police. Did they deny his request? Gosh, I am ready for a trial on this odd, fishy case.
Another odd thing that Amber wrote is that Amanda looked beautiful in the hospital with just a bandage on her head. Jono wrote that she was beaten to a pulp and hardly recognizable.
Pathological liar, fabricator of reality...
5/19/17 blog http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/rest
"So next week, May 21st - May 28th, you won’t hear or see much of me. Gavin, Amber and I are going on vacation and my phone will be off most of the time."
6/1/17 blog http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/bible
"I went to the drawing board with our team and came up with a plan. Here’s what we decided:
On May 21st I concluded our Moodswingers series with a message on Why We Should Read The Bible. You can watch and/or listen to that message here (ResonateIndy.com).
Then I recorded an eight-week small group video curriculum called How to Read the Bible."
Since Davey, Amber & Gavin were on vacay from the 21st to the 28th, I guess Davey was busy filming on May 30 and 31. Did he also record on Memorial Day? He's so ambitious, but who needs 8 Weeks - EIGHT WEEKS??? - on "How to Read Your Bible"?
Seriously, you could cover that in a handout in eight minutes.
Just like Davey saying this last vacation was his first without Weston. I mean seriously why lie about that one when he snapchats, instagrams, facebooks, instacvideos, etc every single thing that he does and every single thing that he eats on every single vacation that he goes on. Pathological
Bingo, Gordon's defense will say that the autopsy photos of Amanda will unfairly prejudice a jury against him. (Rule 304) The coroner's written report will establish COD and MOD, so no need for photos. It's not unusual to attempt to have autopsy and/or crime scene photos excluded from a trial, they have a profoundly emotional effect on juries. (Unsurprisingly).
I agree about the 8 weeks to teach Christians how to read a bible, how patronising. Remember the five weeks of "money money money" sermons? No doubt it's all part of crazy Davey's master plan to intercept the unloveable, unforgiveable, far-from-God, at risk youth, that he came to Indianapolis to save - I hope LT, DG and JW are subscribed to Daveys blog so that they can gain exclusive access to his videos and study notes.
On the morning before Amanda was murdered crazy Davey says he was reading his bible and he knew that Amanda was up and doing the same. Then he went looking for her. He has never explained why he went looking for her (peering into the bathroom etc). Why did he think it was ok to interrupt Amanda's bible time that morning? He says he finally found her, on the floor on both knees, beside the bed, bowed, in a position of surrender. (That description always gives me chills.) then she said, " I was just praying that God would use me in a really big way". Crazy Davey says that's how he knows she would have "still said yes" to being murdered in her own home.
What will crazy Davey say in the next 8 weeks about taking time for yourself and allowing other people time, space and privacy to pray and read the bible, alone, without being interrupted?
I bet he won't preach what he practiced.
About 7:30 AM, November 9, 2015
I remember, you know I found her on, on a Tuesday when I came home from the gym but the Monday morning before, so that Monday was the last day I had with her.
I get up, get my shower, you know, get ready to go.
Weston’s up, she’s up with Weston
Weston, you need to know your mommy was brave.
I know it up-ended your world as much as anyone’s.
She gave her life so you could have yours.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she did what she had to do that morning to protect you.
I peered around the corner to check the bathroom. She wasn’t there either.
I looked in the bathroom and I didn’t, I didn’t see her in the bathroom either.
I, you know, rush into the bathroom while she’s, getting ready and I, kiss her goodbye, and I, () walk out of the house, and, uh, () spent the rest of that day, doing things. () Pushing the ball forward. () Building a church. () Meeting with people. () Pouring myself out.
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While Weston was up, he attacked her in the bathroom and then positioned her "bowing" hidden beside the bed.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-morning-of-monday-november-9-2015.html
Please save Weston - it's not too late!
Blogger Bobcat said...
Please save Weston - it's not too late!
June 4, 2017 at 3:20 AM
Please join reality.
You and a few others here have conjectured and created an alternative reality for so long that you believe your nonsense.
Don't you think LE would have looked into some of these things? Don't you think they've possibly found them to have no merit? Just because you create a fiction story does not make your theory valid. In fact, this is the most ridiculous of all the discussions in Peter's blog, because it relies upon lies, fiction, and baseless theories.
8:12am. You have the right to your own opinion. Please respect other people's rights to their own opinions. You do not have to agree with them. If you believe that Amanda was murdered as the result of a random home invasion, you are entitled to your opinion. I do not believe it was a random home invasion. Have you read all that Peter has written about this case?
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8:12am. You have the right to your own opinion. Please respect other people's rights to their own opinions. You do not have to agree with them. If you believe that Amanda was murdered as the result of a random home invasion, you are entitled to your opinion. I do not believe it was a random home invasion. Have you read all that Peter has written about this case?
June 4, 2017 at 6:25 PM
Not sure where 8:12 a.m. is. Doesn't really matter.
The point is, disagreeing with you is not showing a lack of respect for others' opinions. If that were the case, you are likewise guilty.
Why do people get so bent out of shape when their theories are punched full of holes?
I don't know if 8:12 a.m. has read Peter's analysis, but I have.
Your insults are not "punching holes" in anyone's theories. They are simply insults, they are disrespectful and do nothing to contribute to the discussion. Do you agree with Peter's (and the bakers dozen's) analysis and opinion about the Blackburn murder? They believe Crazy Davey was complicit in some way in the murder of Amanda. Do you? The point is you are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to berate and insult people for theirs. Please show some respect for yourself and others.
Does anyone know what power tools Amanda used in her garage? I vaguely recall seeing a power saw in an old instagram.
If Amanda was shot "around" 7:30 AM on 11/9/2015 in an interior bathroom, how loud would the approx. 160 dB be outside the home? What if country music was blaring from the garage at the same time? What if the sounds of wood slapping onto concrete were a common sound coming from Amanda's garage? Would anyone stop to give a second thought to a "bang" or two coming from her house - especially if it were muffled from an interior bathroom?
Bobcat, You don't think Amanda was at Trader Joe's and Maw Maw's house on the 9th? What about the video footage? It would be interesting to see Amanda's cell phone records for the 9th/10th.
OT. I hope you and your loved ones are safe, Hey Jude.
Anonymous Trudy said...
Your insults are not "punching holes" in anyone's theories. They are simply insults, they are disrespectful and do nothing to contribute to the discussion. Do you agree with Peter's (and the bakers dozen's) analysis and opinion about the Blackburn murder? They believe Crazy Davey was complicit in some way in the murder of Amanda. Do you? The point is you are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to berate and insult people for theirs. Please show some respect for yourself and others.
Do I agree?
No
I've said that many times. Has it not been clear to you?
And BTW, you're fond of throwing around insults, yourself.
Trudy,
Mamaw, Poppy, Amber, Audrey (yes, Audrey -- YES, AMBER! Your daughter Audrey! Poor manipulated kids...), Davey, Phil, and Robin should answer those questions.
Amanda's phone could have been taken around town that day.
As far as the Trader's Point video, there are definitely oddities.
Amber didn't reveal it until eight weeks later. The accompanying introduction features two hina clauses and an overabundance of detail. And Amber says the volunteer "ACTUALLY" sent her the video.
The person posing as Amanda looks slightly larger overall, and is wearing hot pink. I have NEVER seen a photo of Amanda in hot pink, although Robin wears it.
The smile does look much like Amanda, but when "Amanda" turns to the side, the nose profile is very different.
Hopefully Indy PD will do what they feel is appropriate when the time is right. Maybe they already have. The story is awful. Just awful.
Amber's storytelling memories released shortly after the murder are heavy on "pain" that she witnessed Amanda "endure".
10:45 Unfortunately, your position on this case is not clear and has never been. If you disagree with Peter and his bakers dozen, perhaps you could explain why. Do you disagree with his analysis in other cases, or just this one?
IMPD should research the provenance of Amber's Trader's Point video, AND her and Rowen's flight records.
The article that had featured the video a few weeks ago no longer shows the video. It's the same one that I pulled the image of Robin's notepaper from. The young reporter no longer works in South Bend.
http://www.abc57.com/news/amanda-blackburns-mom-talks-about-her-daughters-legacy-a-year-after-her-death
Interesting quote here:
“Amanda’s last physical appearance was at Traders Point Park, her and her sister amber and their kids they were there the day before this all happened,” says Robin Byars, Amanda Blackburn’s mother.
Byars says Amanda’s last smile documented is in a video taken by security cameras as Traders Point Park in Indianapolis.
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Amber's flight records, Trader's Point volunteer schedule and video provenance will reveal which day the video was made. If it was the 8th, then "this all happened" on the 9th. Amber also published a photo of the children "one year later, to the day" which should bear an original date stamp of 11/9/2015.
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Here is my screencap of the smile.
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/a.177115712703742.1073741828.155083181573662/337016820046963/?type=3&theater
CORRECTION:
The article that had featured the video a few weeks ago no longer shows the video.
*It's NOT the same one that I pulled the image of Robin's notepaper from.*
The young reporter no longer works in South Bend.
Peter's analysis conclusion as of 11/21/15: (This the first analysis conclusion. More to follow.)
Conclusion:
1. Davey Blackburn's language reveals that his ministry (work/career) was and is much more important than his relationship with Amanda Blackburn or his relationship with his child, and his deceased pre-born child.
2. Davey Blackburn's language affirms that Amanda was not a positive assistance to his career. This is to affirm what he asserted in a sermon about pastor's wives either being a "sling shot" upward for success, or to have a negative impact.
3. Davey Blackburn's language affirms that although some people, especially family, are "devastated" by her death, he, personally, is not.
4. Davey Blackburn's language affirms that his career is benefiting from her death. This is a strong and consistent theme for him. Amanda did not contribute positively in her role in his career, but has not only assisted him in her death, but he is able to quote precise numbers which reveal how important this is to him.
5. The language does not show greed for money, nor does the language show signals of sexual homicide. This is to say: in his statements, there is no indication of knowledge of a sexual homicide, nor is there specific references to possess. The import, focus and priority are all the same: people specifically coming to his church. With no linguistic signals of sexual homicide, if police were to later connect him, the sexual component may not have been pre-planned. If he were connected to sexual homicide, I think it would have crept into his language.
6. The distancing language is clear: it reflects that in many ways, there was unity between them, which is why he uses the word "we" about her specifically, in spite of complaints of sexual inadequacies. The distancing language will also show guilt: guilty for not being close, guilt for not being devastated for his own wife, which is shocking and can mimic guilt.
6. Davey Blackburn did not deny association with the murder of his wife. This should have been revisited by the Interviewer to give another occasion where he could have said, "I do not know the killer", and "I am not associated with her killer" in simple terms, which would have been statistically reliable in analysis.
Thus far, I am not able to conclude "guilty knowledge" on the part of Davey Blackburn, in the death of his wife, via a connection to the shooter. Although he has not denied it, in taking all of his statements together, he appears to know that he is benefiting, career-wise, from her death, and affirms that his unhappy marriage is over. He may be narcissistic, crass, and a theatrical manipulator of young people, but...
This still does not mean he hired someone to kill her.
Conclusion as of 9/7/16:
(DB) gives indicators of guilty knowledge of the crime committed against his wife and pre born child.
Davey Blackburn has been cleared by investigators and is not considered a suspect, including as an accessory to this crime, by any known law enforcement entity. The opinions here are only those of my own, as all are judicially innocent unless found otherwise in a court of law.
When one speaks publicly, it is presupposed that the audience will choose to believe him, or not to believe him.
I do not believe him. Hiding a poor marriage, hiding same sex attraction, hiding various crimes and misdemeanors, and so on, will not exempt one from the intense fear of the unknown brutal killers on the loose. Blackburn's indifference is well noted.
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn-analysis.html?m=1
The conclusion of 9/7/16 does not take into account Davey's "kiss her goodbye" statement from 9/4/16.
The conclusion of 9/7/16 also does not take into account ANY of Amber's, Phil's, or Robin's statements.
“Amanda’s last physical appearance was at Traders Point Park, her and her sister amber and their kids they were there the day before this all happened,” says Robin Byars, Amanda Blackburn’s mother.
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That is, I think, an unusual way to put it - rather than say 'the last time any of us, besides Davey, saw Amanda was on Monday...' I wonder why she chose to say it like that - t my mind it's like an alkusion to Jesus, post-resurrection, when he 'appeared' to his disciples.
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Yes, we are all fine, thanks, Trudy.
It is unusual. I wish I could confirm the transcription.
I am doubtful that the video is from November 9.
Amber's first post on 11/13/15 draws parallels between HER keeping vigil at Amanda's bedside during birthing labor and then "two days" beginning 11/10/15.
IF Amber and Amanda had really had a wonderful day together on 11/9/15 complete with a family dinner, it is reasonable to expect that that might be the perfect first memorial post after Amanda's death. It is also expected that she might post a photo of Amanda, but does she? NO. She posts a photo of her hands holding Amanda's hand. She did update her facebook at the time, one photo included Amanda in a mask, and the other was with Amanda and Amber looking at each other. No lovely photos of Amanda by herself. Not one.
What does Amber "blog" about before FINALLY introducing the perfect final day she had with Amanda?
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/04/christmas-decorations-flowery.html
11/13/15: Descriptions of Amanda enduring pain, accompanying photo is of Amber's hands holding Amanda's hand.
11/15/15 (Day of "Celebration" Funeral): Hashtags and taglines
11/21/15: Description of running a marathon with Amanda. "I saw the pain in her eyes"
11/26/15: Thanksgiving
12/3/15: Getting hair cut like Amanda's, looking like Amanda, and "dying laughing inside"
12/17/15: "Grown Up" Christmas list
12/23/15: Thank you to her supporters
12/29/15: HOME. No mention of Christmas tree, candle/bible/journal "sitting"
12/30/15: Lyrics accompany photo of concert (she was there with Davey)
1/5/16: Her SEVENTH blog, EIGHT weeks later, introduces the perfect day on 11/9/15, with the accompanying video.
I hope the FBI has it.
The FBI has it.
Bobcat, there is a time stamp on the video of around 2:30 on 11/09/15. I do find some of the stories of Amber to be contradictory especially the impeccable home that didn't have decorations and then it did. She also fell right along with Davey's story that this will be a redemption story and nothing is wasted. However I do think the video at T Point seems legit.
The video looks legit, but provenance needs to be thoroughly investigated in light of the delay in Amber mentioning the perfect wonderful memories of the 9th, and Davey's description of the morning of the 9th.
Even if original images and videos have conveniently been deleted, Amber's flight records need to be reviewed. Amber and Amanda's phone records of the 8th and 9th should also support Amber's stories.
Newspring swooping in and controlling the story while based at Trader's Point the week of the funeral, and their access to and experience with cinematic-quality video editing equipment, should not be overlooked.
The surveillance video bothers me
- because there are no still pictures of Amanda from that day or night - just this 47-second poor resolution video with no sound that a volunteer just "happened to ACTUALLY" give to Amber. There is not a single pic of the family together at Maw Maw's house, not a single pic of Amanda watching Weston run around the park, not a single selfie of Amber and Amanda together drinking their favorite Starbucks drinks.
- because it has been described as "Amanda's last appearance" - Davey said the last time Weston saw Amanda was when she tucked him into bed and kissed him goodnight on Monday night- is Robin saying that Amanda’s last physical appearance was at the park and not at the family dinner at Maw Maw’s house that night?
- because Weston runs down the hall toward the camera away from Amanda but Amanda doesn't turn to watch him, instead she is watching Amber and waiting for her. I wondered if Weston was running to someone he knew who was already inside the park - someone Amanda trusted and knew she wouldn't need to watch him?
And I wouldn't count that the date/time stamp on that surveillance video is accurate - google "how reliable are date and time stamps on surveillance video" or "how to alter a date and time stamp on surveillance video". NewSpring does have extreme capabilities in many ways. The video might prove that Amanda, Amber, Weston and Amber's child were at Trader's Point at some point in time - but can that date/time stamp conclusively prove that they were absolutely there together ON NOVEMBER 9th AT 2:30PM ?
This is from the Facebook description of the video linked here - https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/videos/10208026172233877/
It was finally time for her to go home. She was holding Weston in her arms as Davey loaded the car. I didn't even hug her goodbye because her arms were full, and we would be hanging out again the next day - Tuesday, November 10. I regret that decision every single day. If only I knew that would be the last time I ever saw my precious sister. It is a moment frozen in time - and one I will ALWAYS remember.
It bothers me that Amber wrote "it was finally time for her to go HOME" - like home to heaven with Jesus? - as opposed to writing "it was finally time for her and Davey to leave" or something similar. It also bothers me that Davey talked about if he only knew he would only have a certain number of days with Amanda - then he would've done things differently.
Amber also says when talking about November 10th "my heart and mind couldn't process anything. I was in complete shock" just like Davey repeatedly said about that morning.
Yes it is expected that a husband and sister would be in shock upon finding that someone had randomly broken in and killed/executed their wife/sister - also common to say yeah, if I knew that was going to happen then I would've done things differently - -
but something about the similarity in Amber and Davey's language in their blog posts and Facebook posts (along with Amber's placing herself alongside Davey saying "Davey and I giggled", "Davey and I held her hand", "Davey and I sat by her bed" - strikes me for some reason (and not in a good way).
Flightful said: 'because it has been described as "Amanda's last appearance" - Davey said the last time Weston saw Amanda was when she tucked him into bed and kissed him goodnight on Monday night- is Robin saying that Amanda’s last physical appearance was at the park and not at the family dinner at Maw Maw’s house that night?'
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I didn't even think of that - that could be what Robin is saying, unless by 'appearance', she means public - though she doesn't say that, and one would think more of a famous person making 'a last appearance' - it's a strange thing to have said, methinks.
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Amber repeats 'arms' twice - she couldn't hug Amanda because she was holding Weston in her arms - her arms were full. She could have just hugged Amanda and Weston as Amanda held him, but for whatever reason, they didn't hug. Is 'arms' sensitive only because she didn't hug Amanda, not knowing it would be the last opportunity? That seems likely.
Davey's story of the last time Weston saw Amanda wasn't published until April 2016 - and it was written with awareness of SA.
Robin's description of Amanda's last "physical" appearance wasn't reported until November 2016 when she was giving interviews (holding talking point notes with handwriting eerily similar to Amanda's "last" journal entry) to promote the live album recording.
IF the video actually shows Amanda and Amber, I think the date was changed from 11/8/2015 to 11/9/2015. IF it was staged, they did an excellent job. Amber's extreme sensitivity in her introduction of the video makes sense - especially if participated in the staging, possibly posing as Amanda (she blogged about getting her hair cut and loving looking like Amanda on 12/3/15). Either way, provenance, phone and flight records are needed.
I think Robin's use of "physical" is to weaken, because the "appearance" may have been faked.
Actually, I don't think it was changed from the 8th. I think the whole thing is staged (well).
IF Amber had had a wonderful day at the park with Amanda shortly before she died, she would never have waited eight weeks to share it.
Amanda's left arm couldn't hug Amber because it had a bullet in it.
"It was finally time for her to go home.
She was holding Weston in her arms as Davey loaded the car.
I didn't even hug her goodbye because her arms were full,
and we would be hanging out again the next day..."
Both Davey and Amber place Weston "with" Amanda at the time of going, or "goodbye"
In SA, "goodbye" often indicates the time of death. Horrific.
https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/05/saying-goodbye-in-homicides.html
Re: Hey Jude June 6, 2017 @ 6:30 PM
You said...
"Flightful said: 'because it has been described as "Amanda's last appearance" - Davey said the last time Weston saw Amanda was when she tucked him into bed and kissed him goodnight on Monday night- is Robin saying that Amanda’s last physical appearance was at the park and not at the family dinner at Maw Maw’s house that night?'"
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Hey Jude, your post made me realize what was bothering me with Davey's statement to Weston. He details for Weston the last time Weston saw Amanda, he details (excrutiatingly) seeing Amanda "the morning before/Monday morning", he details her "annoying" laughter" "the night before/Monday night", but not one detail about Amanda in any respect on Tuesday morning until she's "face down in a pool of blood".
For someone who seems to thrive on telling stories, his own, his Church's, his supporters,"Amanda's", etc., this is definitely unexpected on one hand. On the other hand though, as a narcissist, it's expected that he would be the star of the story in discovering Amanda, she would be quickly dispatched, he would quickly resume center stage as the victim of the tragedy, then as the triumphant victor overcoming the otherwise insurmountable...all the while promoting the business he built as the means of aiding others to overcome their circumstances. SMH
I was quoting Flightful, Fools.
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All this story-writing, but.....
Nothing has changed. No "breaks" in the case. Davey is still not arrested.
As long as this storytelling has been going on in this blog, I'm quite sure LE has had ample time to investigate if they had noticed anything of relevancy here. Of course, there is always the chance they don't take this blog seriously.
Imagine that.
I'm sure the blog owner makes sure to protect himself, but some of the discussion accusing family members (yes, including DB) seems very close to libel.
It would be interesting for some of the "accused" to enlist an attorney and put an end to the baseless accusations here.
Ya never know.
A couple of interesting links:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/in-libel-suit-melania-trump-says-maryland-blogger-held-reckless-disregard-for-the-truth/2016/11/12/f9074a12-a76d-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1_story.html
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/social-media-online-defamation.html
Yes, it is interesting that none of the 'accused' have made any denials.
If one were accused of libel, would that not prompt further investigation into the allegation?
Specifically, the provenance of the Trader's Point video purported to be from 11/9/2015? The supporting volunteer records? Phone records supporting described movements of accused parties?
Yes, I would think that if they were libeled, they would seek legal advice.
It hasn't happened......yet.
....as far as the public knows.
Indiana has an anti-SLAPP law.
Anti-SLAPP statute.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with the various aspects of anti-SLAPP. There comes a point where those making the defamatory statements would need to have admissible evidence of the truth of such.
Oh course, if it could cause a closer look at Davey, then that would be awesome.....even if there is the possibility of taking a few of you down with it.
Read up on anti-SLAPP, and not just the areas you like.
New acronym: BIFD
https://www.popehat.com/2012/06/07/why-yes-i-am-into-slapping/
flightfulbird wrote
Amber's words
"It was finally time for her to go home. She was holding Weston in her arms as Davey loaded the car. I didn't even hug her goodbye because her arms were full, and we would be hanging out again the next day - Tuesday, November 10.. . .
my words
It bothers me that Amber wrote "it was finally time for her to go HOME" - like home to heaven with Jesus? - as opposed to writing "it was finally time for her and Davey to leave" or something similar.
It bothers me more this morning after reading this part of Amber's post from 11/13/15 - particular attention to the last five words in bold.
"I talked to her yesterday in heaven. Through the tears and sobs, I could hear her sweet voice saying "Aaaaaaamber! My sister! Please don't cry. It's going to be ok. I know you're sad, but I'm in the presence of my Savior. The one place in this entire world I feel most safe. Most loved. Most fulfilled. Most perfected. My Jesus is here with me and Evie. He's squeezing our hands. He loves me Amber more than anyone else on the earth combined. I know it's hard, but I'm in the very place I've always desired to be. I'm home. My true home."
IND. CODE § 34-7-7-1 et seq. (1998)
https://anti-slapp.org/indiana
Any conduct in furtherance of free speech or petition in connection with a public issue or issue of public interest, is protected.
As expected, you haven't read the entire thing.
flightful
What is interesting is that as often as Davey says, "I came home from the gym"...almost EVERYONE connected to Davey/Amanda carefully specifies dates surrounding her murder.
Even Perry Noble in the celebration service: "And Tuesday, this Tuesday, this past Tuesday, I got a text."
"Phone, cell, text" often connect a perpetrator to a crime...
Yes - the text to Perry Noble that said pray for Amanda, she's fallen, she has a head wound?
Totally minimizing - actually misdirecting away from the true scenario Davey walked in from the gym to find.
"A" head wound is a far cry from three bullet wounds and Amanda in a pool of blood with furniture turned over and credit cards and duct tape scattered around.
Does Davey honestly think these discrepancies aren't being followed up? We know there is an investigative reporter involved now and that the FBI has been given information within the past few days.
Perry Noble knows Davey is not telling the truth and he wanted to be on the record from the start as to what Davey texted him.
"Please note that phone calls often link suspects to the crime scene, as they feel a need, in their statements, to report this connection. ... The phone calls connect her to the crime scene, but it is the additional wording that catches our attention."
https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2012/11/amanda-knox-email-analyzed.html
https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/07/example-of-analysis-brooks-houck-in.html
@ 5:18 Anonymous said...
Does anyone else find it vaguely threatening language eg. -"take a few of you down"? The troll is getting more hostile and vengeful.
Yep, especially whenever there's a mention of Amber's writing. Wow! Maybe Bobcat is on to something!??
MsDp
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