Monday, March 27, 2017

Father of Car Shooting Statements


Police in Ohio are hunting for up to three suspects after a driver who was allegedly speeding down a residential street was fatally shot for striking a 4-year-old boy.
Police said Jamie Urton, 44, was killed after he got out of his vehicle to check on the injured child and an argument erupted between him and onlookers Friday.
There was some type of confrontation that took place after the accident,” Cincinnati Police Department Lt. Steve Saunders told The Post. “I don’t know exactly what ensued, but as a result of that confrontation, there was gunfire that occurred and the victim was struck several times and was killed.”
No suspects had been identified as of Monday, Saunders said.
The boy’s father, Jamal Killings said that his son was released from the hospital with bleeding in his brain on Saturday — one day after the violence on Kenton Street, where police said the boy was hit by a car after crossing into the road.
We do not have a quote here but his son was released from the hospital with bleeding on the brain?
Killings, who was busy checking on his son’s condition, said he wasn’t aware that someone had targeted the man behind the wheel who struck him.
My job as a father was to get my son face first off the concrete and take him to see medical attention, and that’s what I did,” Killings told the station.
The car had been speeding at about 45 miles per hour just prior to the crash, he said.
“I initially stopped the car, you know, a lot of kids play on that street — that’s residential, 15-25. I initially stopped him. He slowed down a bit and then he kind of like swerved around me, hitting my other son. My son wasn’t hit in the middle of the street. He was hit on the curb.”
Killings apologized to Urton’s relatives, saying he didn’t agree with the apparent vigilante street justice.
“I apologize for your loss,” Killings said. “I don’t condone violence. I don’t teach my kids violence. That should never have happened … an unfortunate situation, unfortunate event, but I hope we can all learn from this.”
He does not teach his kids violence.  He repeats "violence" and calls the murder an "unfortunate situation" and an "unfortunate event."  This is minimizing language.  
Killings said the boy must be monitored closely for the next six weeks and could require surgery due to his injuries.
Witnesses told police that three people were involved in the shooting, WCPO reported.
“I pulled right into it,” witness George Gaines said of the crime scene. “He was parked in the middle of the street.
Gaines said he saw Urton slumped over into the car’s passenger seat as police responded to the shooting.
“The police pulled out from every place,” he said. “It was crazy.”
A passenger in Urton’s car was also injured by the suspects, but was not shot.  Police said it’s unclear whether the victims were dragged from the car or were attacked after they exited the vehicle.
Did the father's actions lead to this shooting?
We will likely learn more about this from the survivor.  
The race of the victim is not mentioned.  

37 comments:

Melody said...

Sounds like "bleeding on the brain" could be how the doctors described a Concussion, which may involve bruising, rather than a blood clot from the impact.
But how could a car going 45 mph be "initially stopped" before it again accelerated to that speed and hit the child on the curb?

lynda said...

if the car was parked in the middle of the street, how did his kid get hit on the "curb".

Jen Ow said...

“I initially stopped the car, you know, a lot of kids play on that street — that’s residential, 15-25 [mph],” Killings said. “I initially stopped him. He slowed down a bit and then he kind of like swerved around me, hitting my other son. My son wasn’t hit in the middle of the street. He was hit on the curb.”

This reads to me as if the boy was hit after the father had "stopped" the driver, and engaged with him in some way.

Jen Ow said...

My money is on the father and his friends stopped the driver/passenger and threatened or assaulted them, and the boy was hit as the driver tried to flee.

Sascha Stange said...

He wants us to believe that he saw a speeding car approaching and made the split-second decision to jump in front of it to give him a good talking to???

And where was this son? I don't mean the "other" son that didn't get hit in the middle of the road. Maybe that son was in the middle of the road, with the other following from the curb? Maybe this caused the driver to break and swerve, so as not to hit the child on the road, but sadly hitting the other child he might not have seen. If this was the case, he might have turned the steering wheel as soon as he saw the other kid and ended up further in the road.

But the father could hardly admit to that. As this would place the responsibility away from a supposed speeder and squarely on his shoulders as a neglectful parent who didn't look after his children correctly...

BOSTON LADY said...

The father's statements don't ring true. Did he initially stop the "car" or did he initially stop "him". Why did he change what he stopped?

“I initially stopped the car, you know, a lot of kids play on that street — that’s residential, 15-25 [mph],” Killings said. “I initially stopped him.


Next, did the car or him stop or did "he" slow down a bit? Did he swerve around the father or did he "like" swerve around? who is his other son? And then glaringly his son was hit on the curb but the car was in the middle of the road when the police arrived?

"He slowed down a bit and then he kind of like swerved around me, hitting my other son. My son wasn’t hit in the middle of the street. He was hit on the curb.”

Definitely more to this story than is being revealed.

Anonymous said...

Random observations.

The photo showing the parents and son is in daytime. But when did the event happen? Middle of day? Middle of night? Is the street well lit?

Is "another son" from another mother?

Mr. Killings doesn't use his son's name. But that may be in part the reporter protecting the son's privacy.

If the child suffered a concussion, he should convalesce in a dark, quiet room for a few days. From the news image, I don't see that happening. Three possibilities:
• Ohio's publicly-funded clinics are sub-par
• The parents ignored the doctor's treatment advice, because hey, free publicity to kickstart the Gofundme campaign
• The son didn't suffer a concussion

My mum was an ace at post defacto profiling. She would have said, "What do you expect from a man named Killings?"

Gofundme campaign in 3, 2, ...

John mcgowan said...

OT:

‘Dear White People’ messages pop on on campus to tell them how racist they are

“Dear White People” messages appeared all over campus at North Carolina State University last week to inform white people that they alone are the racist ones.

Based on the 2014 movie of the same name, the “dear white people” messages are incredibly racist and hateful, as expected:

“Dear White People… Black people can’t be racist. Prejudice [sic], yes, but not racist. Racism describes a system of disadvantage based on race. Black people can’t be racist since we don’t stand to benefit from such a system.”

“Dear White People… There is no such thing as ‘colorblind.’ You are perpetuation racism and white supremacy.”

“Dear White People… Your silence equals compliance.”

“Dear White People… I am here to burst your post-racial bubble. Yes Oprah may have her own network, but Ann Coulter is still writing best sellers, Black kids are still getting shot for wearing hoodies, and even here the few vestiges of Black culture are under attack by conservative groups.”

“Dear White People… Are you tired of your hum drum, Wonderbread existence of accidental racism and wishing you could sip on Henny out yo crunk cup without a Bitch giving you the side-eye? Course you are.”

NCSU’s Union Activities Board put up the posters for “Diversity Education Week,” according to The Blaze. How’s this for diversity:

“Dear White People… in a stunning reversal using the term ‘African American’ is borderline racist now. It turns out if you’re too worried about political correctness… to say ‘black,’ odds are… you secretly just want to call us n****** anyway… and truth be told, I’d rather you just be honest about it.”

The only sign that was removed was one that asked, “Have you read the 13th Amendment?” Someone scribbled in pencil underneath something about reading the Second Amendment. Campus police considered that an indirect threat and removed it.
Dear New Fascists, you don’t get a free pass to spread hate just because you feel justified in your anger. You’re the problem.

Cont..

John mcgowan said...

...Cont

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markmeckler/2017/03/dear-white-people-messages-pop-campus-tell-racist/?utm_content=buffer65957&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=David+Clarke

Anonymous said...

Most dysfunctional work environment ever been in was predominately AA female. No accountability. No improvement. No high standards. Poor performance. High pay. Full medical benefits. Everyone was equal on payday, whether you worked or didn't. In the rare instances of accountability immediate recourse to naacp and court.

Trigger said...

The statements by the father about the events sound odd and misplaced.

"I initially stopped him". This sounds true, but then immediately states that "he slowed down a bit." contradicting himself.

deception indicated

Anonymous said...

White college students are told they can't wear hoop earrings because the style results from 'oppression and exclusion' of black people

By Darren Boyle for MailOnline
11:55 EDT 28 Mar 2017.

When all you have for attention is GREVIANCE.

Bobcat said...

OT: http://www.local10.com/news/crime/butt-doctor-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison-on-manslaughter-charge

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - For years, Oneal Ron Morris has been in the headlines for illegally injecting Super Glue and Fix-A-Flat into the backsides of women, an act that led to the death of one of her patients.

During a Monday court appearance, Morris called herself a victim of media attention and said she took a plea deal so she wouldn't have to face a jury in the manslaughter case of one of her patients.

Morris, who is a transgender woman, was sentenced to 10 years in prison and five years of probation. She will serve her sentence in a men's prison.

The sentencing came after Shartaka Nuby, a woman Morris considered a sister, paid for a butt injection five years ago. She subsequently had complications and died.

In court Monday, Morris complained about the media attention.

"I've been found guilty by the media and outside sources based on lies," she said.

Those words were not enough for family and friends of the victim.

"So as far as I'm concerned, 15 years is not enough," someone who knew the victim told the judge.

Police said that Morris made a business out of performing cut-rate cosmetic procedures.

Nuby's mother spoke in court and said she believes Morris should take responsibility for her actions.

"My daughter died the most inhumane death," she said. "(For) 18 months she suffered with not knowing the full (story) of what she put in her body."

Morris disagreed in court.

"I have never ever or would dare ever to inject or have injected any human with any type of unknown substance," Morris said.

This marks the second time Morris will be incarcerated for butt injection crimes, as she'd previously served a sentence in Miami-Dade County for practicing medicine without a license.

Dave Jones said...

The father certainly seems to be distancing and obfuscating, although he may actually be sincere about his disapproval of the murder itself. The investigators say the four year old boy "darted out in front of the car" and the driver (who was headed back to work after his lunch break) didn't have time to stop. There's obviously no way the kid was hit by a car going 45 mph without sustaining any serious injuries or even being hospitalized. I read a couple articles from the local papers and they indicate that this is a terrible drug-infested, crime-ridden neighborhood, and several noted that the neighbors are being "tight-lipped" and "fear for their own safety," so I'd be surprised if anybody ever rats out the killers. The papers also noted that a local attorney was killed right near this same spot a few months ago when he got caught in the crossfire from a gunfight. If the races were reversed, I can almost guarantee this would be labeled a hate crime. The story also sounded fairly familiar to me, too, so I googled it and found this from a few years back.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/white-man-beaten-by-mob-in-detroit-after-hitting-boy-with-truck-was-it-a-hate-crime/

Anonymous said...

Report: Muslim employees at Montreal’s Trudeau airport “radicalized”. – ISIS, propaganda, homemade explosive documents
By Pamela Geller - on March 28, 2017

Oh CANDADA......dont you read the news from Eurape?

Amyl Nitrite said...

Bobcat, interesting that when it comes to prison you are placed according to your biology. Guys can start saying they feel like women and will want to be placed in a women's prison. Thank goodness they have common sense.

Anonymous said...

Why even bring up Canada? Indiana is crime infested and its been 6 weeks but no information about libby and abby. They claim theres been thousands of tips, but no clues? and interviews, but no known suspects, just the property owner. WHATS REALLY GOING ON HERE?

Amyl Nitrite said...

"I have never ever or would dare ever to inject or have injected any human with any type of unknown substance," Morris said.
He know the substance he was injecting into his victims.

Anonymous said...

The true super predators. Violent crime after violent crime and still free to victimize.


Woman, 19, was beaten and strangled to death during vicious attack by 'career criminal burglar' after she returned home to watch Friends reruns on her lunch break

By Regina F. Graham For Dailymail.com
17:16 EDT 28 Mar 2017,

Anonymous said...

Career criminals are a protected class.

Esme Phe said...

OT: Rachel Dozezal statement

“Kevin’s Blackness wasn’t the cause of our disconnect; if anything, it was his disdain for Blackness that created so much distance between us.”

it was his disdain for Blackness that created so much distance between us.”

Whose blackness?

Rachel knows it was her fake blackness that created the distance between them.


Anonymous said...

Whatever anon. Maybe Rachel just wanted an interesting career from which she'd believed she'd never be fired as a black woman. She almost suceeded. Smart lady imo.

Anonymous said...

Where is Me2l?

Bobcat said...

OT: Attention Seeking Mom who feeds "children" cookies on the sofa at IKEA
(I think the guys who hovered worked in Loss Prevention)
https://www.facebook.com/diandra.toyos/posts/1399781156755663

Part 1

I wanted to share this again publicly in case any of you want to share with your mom friends... I've added some details and some things to be aware of that we have thought of since talking about the experience.

I recently read a post written by a mother I didn't know, that went viral. She described an event that happened to her while she was at target. She and her children were targeted by human traffickers. She talked about how when she reported the incident after the fact, she was told that this was a very common way they worked.

I read things like that, and I always think "wow, that's so scary... I need to be careful". But I also always think "that could never happen to me."
But you guys, it did.

A few days ago, my mom and I took the kids (I have 3 kids. A daughter who is 4, and two sons, 1.5 years and 7 weeks) to IKEA. We enjoy going and it's always nice to get the kids out of the house! We went specifically to look at couches. We were in the couch section and the kids were enjoying climbing on each couch and trying them out. My daughter was trying to convince us which couch we should get. My older son was happily walking from couch to couch, flopping himself on each one. My baby boy was snuggled into the sling, sound asleep. After a few minutes, I noticed a well dressed, middle aged man circling the area, getting closer to me and the kids. At one point he came right up to me and the boys, and instinctively I put myself between he and my mobile son. I had a bad feeling. He continued to circle the area, staring at the kids. He occasionally picked something up, pretending to look at it but looking right over at us instead. My mom noticed as well and mentioned that we needed to keep an eye on him. We moved on... and so did he. Closely. My son wandered into one of the little display rooms across from the couches and I followed him closely with my baby strapped to me. My mom said she watched as the older man dropped what he was doing and quickly and closely followed us into the area. At the same time, she noticed another man dressed more casually and in his 20s. He wasn't looking at us, but was walking the same circling pattern around us as the first man. My mom and I decided to sit down and wait for them to move on. We had a gut feeling something was going on, but we hoped we were wrong and they would move on. So we sat in one of the little display rooms. For close to 30 minutes. And they sat too. They sat down on one of the couches on the display floor that faced us. That was when we knew our gut feeling was right and something was off. They sat the whole time we sat, and stood up right as we got up. We continued on and my mom turned around and realized the two men had moved and were sitting only one couch away from each other, still facing our direction. The older man was still watching us. She made eye contact... very clearly letting them know that we saw them. And we moved on. We managed to lose them at that point. (We talked with an employee, circled back and used the bathroom and went out into a different section). But still kept the kids right with us the whole time. I kept the baby in the sling which kept my hands free and my eyes too. I didn't have to keep an eye on the stroller AND two kids... I just had to watch my older ones. When we got through the maze of IKEA, we reported what happened to security.

After talking through the experience, there are some things I want to point out.
These men weren't shopping. While they walked around the store, they weren't looking at things... not really. The older man would occasionally pick something up and act like he was looking at it, but he'd look right over the top of it at my kids. Then he'd drop it and move on as soon as we did.

Bobcat said...

Part II

They weren't waiting for anyone. Often you see men in a place like IKEA waiting for their wives, but these guys appeared to be alone. They didn't even talk to each other. They didn't talk to anyone. They didn't smile casually at people (in fact, early on, I looked at the older guy when he got close to us and smiled... which is something I do regularly when I'm out.. I'm always making eye contact with people. He instantly looked away. That was odd to me).

They were dressed nicely but very differently. I would never have put these two together. And they didn't appear to be together.

The area they were hanging around had an exit right by it. IKEA is a massive confusing maze of a store. But they could have run out that exit with my child and handed them off to someone waiting outside and been gone before I could find them.

Something was off. We knew it in our gut. I am almost sure that we were the targets of human trafficking. This is happening all over. Including the United States. It's in our backyards. I'm reading more and more about these experiences and it's terrifying. If not that, something else shady was obviously going on. Either way, as parents, we NEED to be aware.

Please PLEASE be aware when you're out with your children. It's not the time to be texting or facebooking or chatting on the phone. When you're in a public place with your kids, please be aware and present so that you don't become a victim. Had I not been paying attention that day... or had I let my kids roam and play while I checked my phone... I may have lost one. The thought just makes me completely ill. (Especially because I've been guilty of this!)

Also, in hindsight, I would have taken a picture of the guys. Probably right in their faces so they saw me do it.

Trust your gut. It's there for a reason.

**after reading many of the comments I want to add a few things. Some of which I feel like are so unnecessary, and yet many comments are calling into question my parenting and my children's behavior.

My children were not using the couches as a jungle gym or misbehaving. We were in the market for a couch and therefor sitting on different couches to try them out. When I say climbing, I literally mean they climbed onto the couch to sit down. They're short. They're kids.

My children are also well behaved. They listen. They stay with me. I was 100% watching them when all of this happened. They were already close by me. I was not on my cell phone before this happened. I was very aware of my surroundings which is a big part of why I noticed this.

Bobcat said...

Part III

The photo attached to this post was taken by my mom before this all happened. This is the couch I liked and wanted my husband (who wasn't with us) to see. So she took a picture.
This took place in Southern California, however, kids can be targeted anywhere.

If I could go back and do things differently, there are some things I would change. Many people have questioned why I didn't immediately contact an employee or call the police. To be honest, we were so focused on where the kids were and keeping a distance from these men that we weren't thinking about much else. I loved someone's suggestion of using my cell phone to call the store and ask for security and explain the situation. That's an excellent tool if someone is ever uncomfortable. Our IKEA (I'm not sure if this is true of all) doesn't have a lot of employees in this particular area. So calling the store would have been an excellent idea.

This was not an employee that was undercover or loss prevention. We spoke quite extensively with the head of security when this was over.

This is not meant to scare you. We have to live our lives. I will go back to that IKEA again. Please don't boycott IKEA. The truth is, we need to be aware no matter where we are when we are with our kids. And unfortunately we can't always assume the best of people. Live your life. Take your kids places. But be aware. And be attentive.

Something was not okay here. This was not a situation that I misunderstood. Do I know 100% what harm these men intended? No. I'm taking an educated guess based on how things played out and what I know. But even if I am wrong about their specific intentions... I KNOW they were up to something and focused on me and my children.

Since posting this, I have been contacted by a LOT of people. More than I can keep up with. Some have been incredibly kind, and some not so much. The truth is, I will never know exactly what was going on that day because thank GOD we got out of there safely. It could have been a number of things. I do not claim to be an expert on human trafficking. I mentioned it because that was my first reaction. Since this post has been so widespread, I wanted to use it to point you to a couple of really good resources if you're interested in learning more about human trafficking or how you can help. www.IJM.org and www.a21.org are two great resources.

One more thing that has less to do with what happened and more to do with this post. I did not intend for this to spread the way it has. I simply posted experience, hoping to remind my mom friends to be aware and diligent. Friends couldn't share it with whoever they wanted to and the privacy settings wouldn't allow them to tag. So at the request of friends who wanted to share, I chose to post it again publicly. My kids ages are listed because I had posted it in a baby wearing group I'm part of and that's where I reposted this from. I did not expect this response, and frankly it makes me a little uncomfortable because of some of the comments. My intention is that someone will read this and remember to pay attention to their children, and help keep kids safe!

LisaB said...

BOBCAT!

http://www.snopes.com/california-ikea-trafficking/

Anonymous said...

Is this more of the Lefts work? The Dem party: from advocates for blue collar workers, to the party of immorality, to the party of false victimization, to the party of protectors of criminals, to the party of anarchy and treason.

BREAKING NEWS: Woman is led away from Capitol Hill in handcuffs after she 'tried to ram into a police cruiser and run over several officers' in crazed attack that prompted cops to open fire

By Jessica Chia For Dailymail.com

Ode said...

OT - Please view and share

This is mentally adult content. It will shake your utter core.

https://youtu.be/QiBXpJDYf5s The reality is this is real, the supply and demand is real.

Share this information, share the video viral.

The persons engaging "some for years" in the forums are real. They do not come with masks.
They do not look like Monsters. They are people in everyone's communities globally. They are quite comfortable in their self created dungeon of sorts, how they are able without intervention of any authority, could it be that Authority figures are the gatekeepers.

The Children, Newborn, Infant, Toddler, Kid, Teens probably too old.
They are someone's child, their images are collected and viewed, commented on.
As is more what they want, and wane for, these bastards. All in the Indy journalist's report/video.

They are seeking new and destroying children daily.

Article posted, same topic.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/pedophile-social-network-tribe-net-child-pornography-abuse-screenshots/

Esme Phe said...

IKEA "incident"

"(in fact, early on, I looked at the older guy when he got close to us and smiled..."
I believe she's telling the truth here.

"Please PLEASE be aware when you're out with your children. It's not the time to be texting or facebooking or chatting on the phone. When you're in a public place with your kids, please be aware and present so that you don't become a victim. Had I not been paying attention that day... or had I let my kids roam and play while I checked my phone... I may have lost one. Had I not been paying attention that day... or had I let my kids roam and play while I checked my phone... I may have lost one. lost one. The thought just makes me completely ill. (Especially because I've been guilty of this!)"
-- She is feeling a lot of mom guilt. She is becoming more aware of her own attention distractions. I believe she is truly scared by the trafficking stories, but her own encounter was embellished. Perhaps to remind herself to pay better attention to her children. Here's why I believe this...

"I may have lost one."

May have. May meaning most likely. She most likely would have lost her child.


"I was 100% watching them when all of this happened."
She was 100% watching them. Where was her mother? Why add 100 percent?

"To be honest, we were so focused on where the kids were and keeping a distance from these men..."
I believe this is true. She makes a point to say she's being honest which may indicate that she's not being honest otherwise.  



New England Water Blog said...

OT: Did this really happen this way?

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/search-on-for-renegade-runner-who-cyclist-says-attacked-him/

Christy said...

"Did the father's actions lead to this shooting?"

What parent *wouldn't* stop the car?
Why is this boy's father in the hot seat?
Because his name is Jamal and not Scott or Mark?

Linda Lazo said...

The father said he stopped the car (twice) but then said he slowed it down (incongruent language) and then referred to the car swerving and hitting the kid by the curb. It sounds like the father is admitting he stood in the street to block this speeding car and it didn't stop, it swerved and hit his kid by the curb.

Sara said...

Wow I didn't know there were workplaces dominated by recovering alcoholics. What, are they like placed there as part of a rehab program? Interesting

Anonymous said...

http://local12.com/news/local/kenton-street-murder

Friday, March 31st 2017


CINCINNATI (WKRC) - Police have named the man they believe attacked and fatally shot a driver who accidentally hit a child in Walnut Hills. There is a $2,500 Wheel of Justice reward for the arrest of Deonte Baber, 25.

Jamie Urton worked at the Cincinnati Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired. On March 24, he and a co-worker drove down Kenton Street on their way to have lunch. A 4-year-old child ran out into the street and was hit by Urton's car. As they got out to check on the child, Urton was attacked and killed.

The child was okay. Urton's visually impaired passenger wasn't hurt and has returned to work.

Friday, March 31, police released the 911 calls that followed the deadly shooting of Urton. In them the caller can be heard telling his son to stay strong and that he, "took care of" the driver:

CALLER: "I killed him. He dead. He dead. The dude that hit you by the car, he's dead. I killed him. I'm serious, he dead. The dude that hit you with the car, I killed him Jamaal. He dead. You hear me? He dead. I killed him."

lynda said...

This is outrageous...the man dead is white, he executed him.

I hope this guy never sees the light of day again. What an animal.

Jon said...

Me too Lynda.

If the races were reversed, this would almost certainly be classed as a hate crime and given more media attention.

His quote below:
“I apologize for your loss,” Killings said. “I don’t condone violence. I don’t teach my kids violence. That should never have happened … an unfortunate situation, unfortunate event, but I hope we can all learn from this.”

It sounds much more sinister now that we know more. "An unfortunate situation" as if to say, sorry, but this had to happen, and that "I hope we can all learn from this" seems to minimize his own actions of murder (!) and warns others to learn from Urton's death and to steer clear of Killings, even if it's an accident.