Saturday, July 22, 2017

Mark Redwine Arrested


As readers here know, Mark Redwine was indicated for both deception and guilty knowledge in the death of his son, Dylan. 


Congratulations to the dedicated investigators who stayed with this case. 


Dylan Redwine's father arrested in connection to son's death

KUSA - The father of Dylan Redwine was arrested early Saturday morning in the state of Washington in connection with his then-13-year-old son’s death, 9Wants to Know has learned.
A source familiar with the investigation told 9Wants to Know Mark Redwine was in Washington because he works as an over-the-road truck driver.
According to an indictment distributed by the La Plata County Sheriff's Office Saturday afternoon, Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death, 
According to a booking report posted online by Whatcom County, Washington, the 55-year-old is being held on "fugitive from justice warrants." 
He was booked into the county jail at around 1:20 p.m. 

Dylan Redwine disappeared from his father’s Vallecito Lake house in November 2012. His partial remains were found on Middle Mountain in June 2013. 
The boy's death has been ruled a homicide. 
Mark Redwine was identified as a person of interest in his son’s death early in the investigation, but no charges were filed until now. 
Items of interest were found during a July 2016 search for information related to Dylan’s disappearance. What those items were remains unclear. 
It was one of a number of searches during the past four years.
Early on, Dylan's mother, Elaine Hall, said she believed Mark Redwine had something to do with the disappearance of her son. 
Hall, her son Cory Redwine and her husband Mike Hall were cleared of any involvement in Dylan Redwine's death. 
Elaine and Mark Redwine have been divorced for years. Dylan Redwine lived with his mother near Colorado Springs, but went to Vallecito to spend Thanksgiving with his father. Shortly after Dylan Redwine arrived in La Plata County, he was never seen again.

157 comments:

Anonymous said...

I knew it all along. I saw the story on Dr.Phil.

Jen Ow said...

Thinking of Elaine today...I'll never forget her heartbreaking interview with you Peter!

Anonymous said...

I'm so happy about this. Sometimes things do work out right.

LC said...

KUSA - Blood found on his couch and in his living room. The scent of a dead body in his pickup truck and on the clothes he wore the night his son was last seen. Odd conversations mentioning how investigators would have to find his son’s skull before they determined how the 13-year-old died.

This was some of the evidence detailed in the grand jury indictment against Mark Redwine, who was arrested in Bellingham, Washington early Saturday morning in connection with his son’s death and disappearance.

It was the culmination of an investigation that lasted four-and-a-half years and garnered national attention.

Dylan Redwine was last seen alive on Nov. 18, 2012. He was on a court-ordered visit with his father in Vallecito, a tiny town in La Plata County. The boy usually lived with his mother in Monument, and according to the indictment, had not been getting along with his father prior to his disappearance as he watched his two parents in the midst of a contentious divorce.

The boy’s partial remains were found on Middle Mountain in June 2013. Hikers found his skull 1.5 miles away on Nov. 1, 2015 – in difficult terrain that investigators say was easily accessible by a road that Mark Redwine was very familiar with.

The skull had injuries consistent with blunt force injuries and two small markings that appeared to be tool marks from a knife, the indictment alleges.

Though Mark Redwine has fervently denied a role in his son’s death, investigators say they’ve considered him a person of interest for years.

He is being held in Bellingham, Washington on a $1 million bond and facing extradition to Colorado, where he will be advised of his charges in La Plata County court.

A grand jury has indicted him with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death. Why it took years for Redwine to be arrested is unclear. He was in Washington state early Saturday morning because of his job as a truck driver.

Trigger said...

Justice is coming for Dylan. My heart goes out to his mother and brother. Mark has hurt a lot of people by his cruelty.

I would love to hear that Mark Redwine confesses to this tragedy.

He will most likely say it was an accident, like Casey Anthony did.

John mcgowan said...

This is well worth another read.


This case has been covered extensively in Statement Analysis. You will find excellent analysis by Kaaryn Gough.

Chronologically, here are some statements from the case. Mark Redwine's "denial", his charade on the Dr. Phil Show, where he said he would polygraph and Dr. Phil appeared close to getting a confession. Redwine did not polygraph and blamed the polygrapher.


Here are some exerts from analysis:


http://statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/statement-analysis-mark-redwine-father.html

I echo, Jen Ow's words.

Peter Hyatt said...

After the trial, I will have more to say.

With the trial, I hope to cover statements on this case with analysis.

Its a testament to investigators who did not give up and how fresh eyes can bring a case fresh enthusiasm.

Peter

Christy said...

We have not forgotten Dylan. My son will be 13 in two weeks. A sweet, fragile age.
May justice come swiftly for you sweet Dylan.

Bobcat said...

This is not a happy ending, but at least he will be where he belongs ...

Sarah said...

That's wonderful news. If I remember right, there was some suspicion amongst those here that Mark beat the crap out of Dylan in his truck over a combo of not wanting to go to a "sit-down" restaurant & Dylan defending his mother, Mark then put Dylan's badly beaten but still alive body on his couch and then discovered in the AM that he was dead when he couldnt "wake the boy." So very sad but it seems to be a common limguistic denominator when the victim is "so tired" (Madeleine) or "in a posture of surrender by the bed" (Blackburn) that the victim has already been attacked at that point & is dying (or dead if limguistically they "cant be woken" as in the Dylan case). Mark also couldnt answer questions about which videos he and Dylan watched after they got home from McDonalds indicating he had already attacked Dylan by that point. My guess is Mark beat him around the head judging from Marks comments about "they will need to find his skull to figure out how he died". I wonder if that mailwoman was paid by Mark to lie about having seen Dylan. Poor Elaine....I hope Marks arrest brings her some measure of peace.

Anonymous said...

And Peter, excellent work you did on the case as well as your interview with Elaine. So sad, Mark did kill Dylan to "hurt her forever" as you pointed out. She must feel some relief that Mark is now behind bars.

Anonymous said...

"Investigators said Dylan saw compromising photos of his dad and asked his brother to send the pictures so he could confront his dad about them"

http://kdvr.com/2017/07/22/dylan-redwines-father-arrested-in-sons-death-boys-mother-says/

Anonymous said...

Yes, Dylan saw pictures of Mark wearing a diaper eating his own feces. Marks perverted fetishes. How does someone become that disturbed that they eat their own crap for fun?
Very horrible if Mark lashed out in anger at Dylan if Dylan confronted him. Mark is such a scumbag. I bet the other inmates will have a field day if they learn about Mark's crap eating fetish.

tania cadogan said...

The father of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine, who went missing in 2012, was arrested in Washington state Saturday morning in connection with his son's death as authorities reveal the boy was killed after seeing 'compromising images' of his dad.

Dylan went missing after he was last seen on November 18, 2012. He was on a court-ordered visit with his father, Mark Redwine, in Colorado at the time.

The child's remains were found seven months later scattered in southwestern Colorado by wild animals.

A grand jury indicted Redwine on Wednesday second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death after the four-and-a-half-year investigation, according to 9 News.

Redwine has constantly denied playing a role in his son's death and at one point appeared on Dr Phil to blame his ex-wife for the child's death.

But investigators say they've considered him a person of interest for years; however, it's still unclear why it took so long for them to arrest Redwine.

According to 9 News, Redwine was in Washington state on Saturday because of his job as a truck driver.

In the grand jury indictment, investigators said blood was found in multiple locations in Redwine's living room, including his couch.

Cadaver dog's even found the scent of a dead body in various locations in the home and on the clothes Redwine wore the night Dylan disappeared, the indictment alleges.

In 2014, the cadaver dog also picked up the scent of a body in the bed of Redwine's pickup truck, according to the indictment.

But a year before that, investigators said Dylan's half-brother told them that Redwine had mentioned Dylan died of blunt-force injuries.

Authorities also said Redwine had mentioned how investigators would have to find his son's skull before they determined how the teen died.

Dylan lived north of Colorado Springs with his mother, Elaine Redwine, but went to his father's home near Vallecito Reservoir northeast of Durango for a court-ordered visit in November 2012.

His dad said he returned home from doing errands to find his son had gone. The two parents subsequently blamed each other for their son's disappearance.

But in June 2013, Dylan's partial remains were found on Middle Mountain.

Hikers found his skull 1.5 miles away on November 1, 2015, according to 9 News.

Investigators said Dylan's skull was found in difficult terrain that was easily accessible by a road that Mark Redwine was very familiar with.

The skull had injuries consistent with blunt force trauma and two small markings that appeared to be tool marks from a knife, the indictment alleges.

Months after the child's remains were found in 2013, Mrs Redwine said she believed her ex-husband killed Dylan.

'I always have from day one, when he was missing,' she told The Pine River Times at the time.

Mrs Redwine told police that her ex-husband had told her if he ever had to get rid of a body, it would be in the mountains, according to the indictment.

According to the indictment, Dylan had not been getting along with his father prior to his disappearance as he watched his two parents in the midst of a bitter divorce and custody battle.

Mrs Redwine told authorities that her ex-husband told her he would 'kill the kids before he let her have them', the indictment alleges.

In another incident Dylan's mother and father argued outside of his home.

According to the indictment, the argument stemmed from 'compromising photos' of Redwine that Dylan had seen. The nature of those photos was not discussed.

In 2015, Mrs Redwine filed a wrongful death suit against Redwine in which she alleged 'the death of Dylan Redwine was the proximate and direct result of the negligence of the defendant'.

Redwine is being held in Bellingham, Washington on a $1 million bond and is facing extradition to Colorado.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4721614/Father-charged-murdering-13-year-old-Dylan-Redwine.html

About bloody time.
I hope he gets LWOP

Anonymous said...

Wow, after reading what Tania put up, I hope they fry him (dearh penalty). Knife marks on Dylan's skull?! MARK REDWINE SHOULD GET DEATH PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Charge him with desecrating a corpse also!!! WHAT A SICKO! HE SHOULD BE HUNG!!!!

Anonymous said...

does Colorado have death penalty or theyre all too stoned?

Anonymous said...

LWOP would be appropriate. The family has waited too long and is bound to be tired of hearing about him by now. Death penalty would put him in the limelight for years-too many for them to live in peace.

It would be nice if they'd throw the judge that forced the visit to live in the same cell.

Anonymous said...

Im sure Elaine would want him to get death penalty. Im sure she is not "tired of hearing about him" bc its in the context of justice for Dylan. LWOP is not justice in this case. Mark killed 13 yr old Dylan bc he saw pictures of Mark in a diaper eating his own feces. Dylan died bc of Mark's repulsive perversions and selfishness. It sounds like he also desecrated Dylans corpse. He lied and lied about Dylans disappearance even blamimg it on Elaine just to twist the knife in her heart while Mark remained blissfully drunk, getting TLC from nurses with his fake alcohol paranoia attacks & getting slutty mailwomen to LIE for him increasing Elaine's pain. LWOP is a joke of justice for this case. Just f&ckin fry him. Or hang him.

Anonymous said...

Mark Redwine is one of the perps we have looked at in SA who I hate THE MOST! Dylan seemed to have been a great kid and you can tell how much Elaine loved him--Mark ripped her heart out FOR NO REASON just to be a piece of Sh$t!!!! He snuffed out Dylan's life after forcing Dylan to come visit him! From the sound of it, douchebag Mark was such a SHITTY father he didn't even get Dylan from the airport to his home ALIVE!!! Mark is a waste of space & I believe in the death penalty for people who severely harm or kill children and Dylan was his child!!!!!!!!!!!! What he did to Elaine was and will continue to be prolonged emotional torture. I hope the state will seek the death penalty against Mark.

Anonymous said...

Interview with Elaine regarding the arrest of Mark--the sadness in her eyes over the loss of Dylan is heart-breaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmhiKBOujj4

Anonymous said...

"Its a testament to investigators who did not give up and how fresh eyes can bring a case fresh enthusiasm."


I live in the area.

Not only had they never given up, the case was covered periodically in the news; it was a topic of conversation among people in the area and nearby communities in the Four Corners region. Everyone knew what the end result would be, and that the case was being meticulously investigated and tied up tightly so Redwine wouldn't walk.





Laurin Adams said...

It needs to be mentioned how tireless and involved Elaine has been over the years. Talk about not giving up.

Pak31 said...

I followed this case daily when it first came of light. I felt so awful for this boy. I, like many others, just knew the dad was lying. It's just unbelievable that a parent could murder their own child yet it happens all the time. It takes a special kind of evil to be able to do that. Maybe one day I will understand it but I just can't at this moment.

Anonymous said...

They're no more stoned than so many other areas. Yes, Colorado has the death penalty, but have executed only one person in the past 20 years.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...
And Peter, excellent work you did on the case




Peter worked on the case? How? Where? With investigators? Did law enforcement consult Peter?

Anonymous said...

right, Colorado has the Death Penalty, but currently an ineffective Governor who put a moratorium on all DP cases until his term is over - which is Soon, thankfully.

Anonymous said...

@9:41, Peter did lots of analysis on the case & determined that Mark had killed Dylan & when he attacked Dylan & why. He interviewed Elaine keeping the case in the spotlight as well as keeping the fact that Mark was Dylans killer in the spotlight.
Elaine is not upset with LE & the DA for taking an ABSURD amount of time to arrest Mark, but I am!!!! Dylan disappears in a rural area after Mark cant "wake the boy" while Dylan is "sleeping" on the couch, there was blood on the couch & cadavercdogs hit on a scent of death in Marks house and truck...THEN THEY FIND DYLANS REMAINS, and DUH THEY STILL CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A CASE TOGETHER AGAINST MARK?!?! Puh-LEEZE! They allowed Mark to create an absolute travesty of justice, as he roamed around free as a bird spinning his gaslighting lies on Dr Phil. I mean seriously. Blood & the scent of death in Marks house & truck, Dylans remains found near Marks house and DUH it still tookthem years to figure out how to arrest and try Mark?! COLORADO LE AND THE OLD DA ARE NOT ROCKET SCIENTISTS THATS FOR SURE!!!

Anonymous said...

Something should be done about the judge that ordered the visitation. He needs to answer for his part in this tragedy.

Why can't a 12 year old decide whether or not to see a perverted parent? Was this judge friends with Mark ? Did they share the same fetish?

Anonymous said...

These damn judges hand down decisions without comprehending the case facts OFTEN.

Anonymous said...

@11:57, Mark wearing a diaper and eating his own feces unfortunately would not cause any judge in this country to prevent visitation. Didnt Mark also have sex with some woman in ELAINES YARD WITH THE KIDS THERE ALSO? That also would not cause a judge to raise an eyebrow.
A lawyer friend once told me that if Charles Manson were freed he would be able to visit his kids (if he had any under age 18). There has to be proof of severe physical abuse of the kids for a judge to consider even ordering "supervised" visitation. And look how well supervised visitation turned out in the Josh Powell case.
The Dylan case perfectly illustrates our deeply flawed legal system where a bumbling perverted alcoholic can successfully refute his OBVIOUS INVOLVEMENT in his sons murder by saying "I know you are but what am I?", getting a slutty mailwoman to lie for him (oh hey I put out/drink with this psycho but lemme tell ya I saw Dylan from my mail truck that means Mark is innocent") and roam free as a bird getting nurtured INSTEAD OF INTERROGATED DURING HIS ALCOHOLIC "PARANOIA" ATTACKS. That would have been the perfect time to interrogate him. Feeling "paranoid" Mark? Havent slept? Feeling unsure you will get away with murder Mark? PERFECT TIME TO INTERROGATE HIM! Instead he probably got IV fluids and a massage while his sons remains were out in the elements being eaten and scattered by animals!!!!! Im not saying they should have waterboardied him but yes take his "paranoid" drunken ass, put him under bright lights with no booze or cigs & he would have TALKED! Instead they put him on a stretcher for fake "paranoia", give him coddling, comfy bed, IV fluids, a massage, comfy little socks so his feet dont get cold and probably somebody to wipe his &ss for him. Hope they put it in a bowl so he could eat it. WHAT A PIG!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

As I said, only one execution 20 years ago.

Anonymous said...

Those of us who live nearby knew his dad did it when it happened.

Anonymous said...

Judges make those rulings routinely, and often children lose their lives because of it.

Animal said...

"His father"...brings shame to the title"father".Some people shouldn't have been born.

Anonymous said...

They need to charge him with premeditated murder & go for the death penalty.

From his own words it's clear that he desecrated Dylan's corpse and hid his skull separately from Dylan's body as he bragged "they will need to find his skull to figure out how he was killed". One doesn't come up with that type of idea "spur of the moment". Mark premeditated his killing and how he would attempt to cover up cause of death while sitting on his drunken ass watching crime shows. He is a sicko. He deserves death penalty and Elaine should be allowed to flip the switch and they should put extra voltage into his electric chair.

Anonymous said...

Mark proved that a stumbling bumbling hallucinating paranoid drunk CAN OUTSMART LE out in Colorado!!! Mark proved he could be piss his pants drunk and get away with murder even with blood in his home and truck and his son's remains found right near his house in a rural area! That LE STILL couldn't fit the puzzle pieces together! Sorry but LE did an absolutely horrible job and they should be ashamed of themselves!!! Mark is not only an alcoholic but a mentally unbalanced sloppy fall down piss his panrs ear his own crap while wearing a diaper alcoholic and how the hell did he outsmart LE for years and years?!?! How is that possible????

tania cadogan said...

I am not sure if Colorado has a death penalty per se. It is considered a "de facto" non death penalty state.
Since mark has not yet been charged with capital murder but 2nd degree murder, i am not sure if he could face the death penalty hence my LWOP comment.
If he qualified for the death penalty i am all for it.
I just wish they were given a fixed amount of appeals at each level to be completed in a fixed amount of time and then executed rather than have them drag it out for decades flinging every excuse at the wall in the hope of something sticking.
If they were caught in the act either by witnesses of cameras or make a valid confession then no appeals, do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to the death chamber.

apital punishment, also known as "the death penalty," remains a legal sentence under Colorado laws for certain crimes. Colorado has executed a total of 101 people in its history (all of them male and for the offense of murder). However, since the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1978, the state has only executed one person in 1997 and is considered a "de facto" non-capital punishment state.

That being said, Colorado jurors still have the ability to impose the death penalty. However, the number of cases in which it can be used is limited as it only applies to class 1 felony cases involving certain murders, kidnapping, or treason. Generally, prosecutors must be able to establish at least one aggravating factor in order for the death penalty to apply. These factors can apply to murders which involve:

The death of a peace officer, firefighter, emergency services provider, judge, elected official, or federal law enforcement agent;
The death of a child under 12;
Dynamite or other explosive devices;
Pecuniary gain;
Especially heinous, cruel or depraved conduct; or
Extreme indifference to human life.

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/colorado-law/colorado-capital-punishment-laws.html

I wonder if mark premeditated this as a way to get back at Ekaine his ex wife since he was a domestic abuser and control freak?
Did Dylan finding the compromising images give mark an excuse to go ahead with his plans?

I wonder if the images were left out to be 'found' to test the waters perhaps?
Why would he take or have taken such damning images?
Was he looking for like minded individuals?
Was he hoping to be found out and perhaps treated for his pervesion?
Was there an ulterior motive?
His booking photo shows him as a hot mess, bloodshot eyes, looking like he is hungover, how did he manage to hold his job down given what was already known about him?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info Tania.

If they can prove premeditation and desecration of corpse that qualifies as heinous imo.
Regarding Marks disgusting pics, he probably took or had someone else take pics of his disgusting crap eating so he could look at them later and get "enjoyment" from the pics. I would wonder if Mark had any assistance in his brutal crime. Why did the mail woman lie about something so serious? Does Mark have dirt on her? Is she involved with his diaper/crap fetish? Who took the pictures of Mark in a diaper eating crap? Unfortunately too, its likely that fetish is only the tip of the iceberg...if his perversions have progressed to that level of wearing diaper snd eating his own feces (and you have to assume its actually progressed beyond even diaper wearing/crap eating there has got to be other stuff...a lot of other stuff, some of it EVEN WORSE, and there has to be other people who know about it.

Jane Doe said...

Great analysis.Right all along ;)

rob said...

Great analysis Peter.

Brian Harvey said...

Somebody else had a similar view about him,a few years ago.He is also right concerning him,and his guilt. https://youtu.be/zXt56MB-3vc or try this link. https://youtu.be/PqXwslCcPws

Anonymous said...

Its amazing to me that fleabag SCUMBAG Mark was ever with Elaine, an attractive woman with intelligence and remarkable strength, kindness and depth.
Mark should have drank himself to death or jumped off a cliff during his paranoia attacks.

Anonymous said...

It absolutely turned my stomach when I saw pics of Mark being carted away on a stretcher WHILE HE WAS SITTING UP nc he felt PARANOID. MARK WAS NOT INJURED AND DID NOT REQUIRE MEDICAL TREATMENT. Think of how many OVERDOSE cases could have used that stretcher. THINK OF HOW MANY SCHIZOPHRENICS OR GENUINE MENTAL
PATIENTS COULD HAVE BEEN USING MARKS HOSPITAL BED. INSTEAD THEY ALLOWED HIM TO MALINGER AND PAMPERED HIM LIKE A PRINCESS. I hope they feed him bowls of crap in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But no, they will put him in isolation so no other prisoners get ahold of him, serve him 3 hot meals a day, give him a TV, free pedicures and sedative meds Im
sure to ease him off the booze. F&CK HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

aNoNyMoUs said...

Aggravating factor is killing a child under the age of 12.
Anyone know WHEN Dylan turned 13?

Anonymous said...

They've ruled out animal kill (of course everyone did long ago) by determining the distance an animal would carry a carcass, yet the skull was miles away.

That's good to know so they don't have to depend on fairy tales at trial.

The man is everyone's worst nightmare. Able to convince a judge and local LE of his innocence and move on to murder his own son. Wonder who else he has injured or killed in the past?

Great job on this one, Peter. Too bad he lived near the woods or things would have come to a head sooner.

Hopefully he doesn't get the needle. Bet more comes in on him later.

Anonymous said...

@ 8:00,

Elaine says in an interview that Dylan was almost 14 when he went missing.
Aggravating factor is the PREMEDITATION.
Mark desecrated the corpse attempting to play a cat and mouse game with LE bragging they will need to find his skull to figure out how he died. Mark obviously must have seen a crime show he then imitated.
Elaine said on Dr Phil that Marks mind works in such a way he seeks vengeance for any "wrong" he feels was done to him. Mark premeditated the killing. He probably left the camera out at a previous visit with the crap eating pics so that Dylan would see the pives GIVING MARK "REASON" TO RAGE.
MARK DESERVES TO BE EXECUTING BY FIRING SQUAD.

Anonymous said...

It was determined Dylan had blunt force trauma to his head:

Check out this interview with Mark. I strongly suspect Mark hit Dylan in the head with a baseball bat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEwCBPy90w

Anonymous said...

After rereading old analysis, a statement was made about the importance of Dylan's friends. Also there is mention of "struggle" and getting him "down" to his friends.

My question would be, along some lines: did the man try to get or put false imagines in a friends mind to get him to lying or attempt to manipulate any of the deceased friends at any time?

It is apparent he did this to the mother at all times and most likely the brother.

Now that Dylan is gone, would any of these friends or their mothers have ties to his ex wife that he could use? An after thought after he has been "dumped."

Anonymous said...

@13:56 in video I posted, Mark can't remember what movie they watched. He also appears to be lying about going to WalMart before the movie. Mark had no food in his house and no Thanksgiving plans. So many things point to premeditation. As in he got Dylan from the airport and then killed him.

@ 12:36, yeah that is weird about "struggle" and "getting him down" to the friends.

"Struggle" is probably leakage of Mark's violence (even his first wife said he was violent).

Mark says he "monitored" Dylan and "made sure he was where he said he would be"----hypercontrol? Stalker-type personality? Mark definitely does seem to be jealous of Dylan's friends and seems to want himself to be the only person in Dylan's life.

Mark may have strongly resented Dylan hitting the teenage years and the fact that he probably stopped thinking that Mark was "super cool" just bc he was his Dad.

The rest of your comment I don't understand about Mark "putting imagines in his friend's heads"? Do you mean putting "images"?
I'm still not sure I understand, but Mark is a very manipulative liar who "spiderwebs" in his speech to distract as well as plant images in people's heads. For example, the way he so smoothly mentions that he was upset when he found out that Dylan was a "known hitchhiker".

Anonymous said...

Well,anon 12:52, I'm not talking about doing 500 laps around the schoolyard or PTA meeting place to see if there is anyone to connect to his mother there. I meant friends close to Dylan or mothers that had children that could be construed as friends of Dylans.

And, yes, images would be a better word.

Friends could attest to Dylans hitchhiking adventures. Things like that to keep up the suspense.

trustmeigetit said...

I wish judges that force kids to visit parents against their will could be held accountable as well.

Not the first time...sadly won't be the last.


Praying now for theother guilty parents to be arrested too.

Hailey Dunn
Isabel Celis
Etc etc

Anonymous said...

It is amazing that they write articles that a retired FBI profiler is the one who narrowed down suspect to a list of one-his father. All that after the mother claimed his threats to kill his own child, that child's unwillingness to endanger his life though a judge would, and, multiple lies made on TV.

The fear of losing a case must keep them from seeking justice.They could have easily narrowed down the people the mail woman claimed to have seen by interviewing his friends. Why would he take off with a stranger when he had plenty of friends to go with? It couldn't have been his brother if he had an alibi, though to send someone in and get him out of harms way wouldn't have been out of the question. But, they knew as soon as they found the first bone fragments.

Comparing every case to the Anthony saga is odd. The DA did the damage there though no one wants to admit it. Overcharging and making up storylines for tabloids lost the case for him. People tire of it quickly.

This man is in a class with that oddball that dismembered her handicapped Aussie step-daughter after months of ridicule and shame.Dunn falls in there, too, but to a lesser extent.

The others, who knows? Believe it or not kidnappings still happen.

Scammers came out on this one (as every child case brings them out of the woodwork)but the problem may lie in one case unsolved in that state from years ago that keeps them from prosecuting-JonBenet Ramsey.It's a bread and butter industry for retired federal agents and media outlets.Oh, an people involved in child porn.(Someone is circulating porn related to Hailey Cummings though she had not been born at the time it was filmed I read) They hope to drag out the cases for more donations an make a public spectacle for their own god).

Anonymous said...

A lot of times when I first wake up, an important clue will pop into my head if I am reading/thinking about a case right before bed.
This is what popped into my head earlier is Mark saying of Dylan that he is a "known hitchhiker". That is an odd phrase that most closely relates linguistically to the phrase "known prostitute". Since Mark projects his own flaws onto others ie. saying he divorced Elaine bc she had a drinking problem, THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE MARK ENGAGES IN PROSTITUTION WHILE ON HIS TRUCK ROUTE WITH HE HIMSELF BEING THE PROSTITUTE. From his fetishes, he likely sells himself tp men and requests that they degrade him.
Also it is likely Mark has killed a hitchhiker along his truck route at some time and justified it to himself bc of the fact that the person was hitchhiking since Mark speaks of hitchhikers as if they are beneath him, putting themselves in harms way and sees them as inferior and on the same level as a prostitute.
Marks mugshot shows he engages in some type of masochistic behavior. He apparently dies not groom himself which shows he is psychologically in some type of helpless infantile state (this links to his diaper wearing fetish). Likely he prostitutes himself to men who physically and verbally degrade him (according to his very masochistic fetishes.)
Mark has likely killed before, most likely a hitchhiker or prostitute.

Anonymous said...

God, what a bunch of pr&cks those English doctors are!!! What would have been the harm in letting the parents take Charlie Gard to the US for treatment?! Doctors are so sickening! They think they are "God" & cant stand having their opinions challenged. Yeah that sounds so scientific saying "his brain scan looks sad". I BET THAT DOCTORS BRAIN SCAN LOOKS VERY SAD!!!! And made up statistics like he has a 16-57% chance of the damage in his brain not getting better. (Right bc an infant does not produce new brain cells--BRILLIANT!!! )IF YOURE NOT SMART DONT TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU ARE!
I am well aware of how INCOMPETENT DOCTORS ARE. THEY ARE PISSED BC THEY DIDNT KNOW HOW TO HELP CHARLIE AND DIDNT WANT TO BE SHOWN UP BY AMERICAN DOCTOR! THERE IS ONLY ONE DOCTOR I RESPECT. THE REST HAVE GOD COMPLEXES WHILE BEING PROFOUNDLY INCOMPETENT AS TO HOW TO TREAT ANYTHING MORE COMPLICATED THAN EAR INFECTION & EVEN WITH THAT IM SURE THAT WOULD BE A VERY CONFUSING SCENARIO FOR THEM!
REST IN PEACE CHARLIE GARD. SORRY YOUR DOCTORS WERE SO INCOMPETENT AND HAD GOD COMPLEXES. IM SURE THEIR BRAIN SCANS LOOK MUCH SADDER THAN YOURS AND THEY PROBABLY JUST WERE WAY TOO STUPID AND SELFISH TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TALK TO A GOOD DOCTOR!

Anonymous said...

Anon @1:21, good post. Mark looks a lot like the suspect in the Abby and Libby murder in Indiana. He's spent time in Indianapolis and was strangely there passing out fliers when Dylan's remains were found. He had reddish brown hair but in his mug shot, his hair appears darker and shorter. Did he dye it and cut it recently? The strange sexual fetishes and anger issues have me also thinking that Dylan was not his only victim.

Anonymous said...

Oh wow he DOES look like the suspect in the Abby & Libby case. Those girls were right around Dylan's age too. You are so right about his hair being a diffetent color now too--I thought something looked different. And he's all over the place geographically in his truck and also see interview where he talks about driving Dylan to Philly, NY, Boston.
There is no way that Dylan was his first kill judging from the fact that it was planned (premeditated) and he went to great lengths to hide Dylans remains & cause of death & lies way too calmly & smoothly about Dylans disappearance. If he killed those girls in Indiana he wpuld not have much reason to hide the bodies since they would not be traced to him. All 3 were attacked in the head/neck area and a knife was used in all 3 cases. That is bizarre he was handing out Dylans missing fliers in Indiana. Maybe some of Dylans remains are there.
I will watch the rest of the 45 min interview to see if anything jumps out. Mark is a very dangerous man who has very likely killed before and after Dylan.

Anonymous said...

20:40 on Mark Redwine interview, Marks says he went to the Marshall's office so someone could "BANG him (Dylan) in the head and say 'hey your Dad's looking for you".
It was determined Dylan was subjected to blunt force trauma to his skull. Strange marks on his skull also they are saying caused by a tool or knife.
When I hear Mark using the word "bang" him in the head, I wonder if Mark attacked Dylan with a hammer. Because the word "bang" is used to describe what a hammer does. Earlier in interview Mark says of Thanksgiving plans that they hadnt "NAILED anything down yet". Again this suggests imagery of a hammer. I wonder if prosecution should take a look at the Mark interview: because he probably did use a hammer--if they are trying to build a case against Mark, that may be the weapon Mark used was a hammer.

Anonymous said...

Post a link to Redwine being in Indiana during the murders of those two girls, please. He does resemble the sketch.The odds of him being in the woods states away during a murder of two teens are between slim and none. The state police are warning people about the dangers of posting comparison photos and making suspects out of people who aren't. You may be funding Redwine's defense and helping set him free for the crime he is suspected of now.

Trudy said...

Anon 7:48. - I'm wondering about a hammer, too.

MR on taking another polygraph:-

MR:
I don’t… I don’t think so. I…I think that a polygraph is only a tool that is used by law enforcement. This is what they’ve reiterated to me over and over and over and over again. It’s only a tool. That being said, it’s no different than a carpenter building a house. I mean obviously you gotta’ have a hammer to do that. It’s only one of many tools that is…is important to utilize from whether it be law enforcement’s perspective or a carpenter building a home. It’s not the only tool available, and it’s not the only tool that we should be utilizing here.

:(

Trudy said...

Just listen to WHERE the killer/accomplice says the body of the victim WONT be found, and you will find your victim.

"Well, my move is, because I obviously don’t think that he’s in the area or in the county or necessarily even in the state of Colorado, I wanted to take his story to a national level, and that means if I got to travel personally all 48 states and talk to every newspaper reporter and TV reporter that I can get five minutes of their time, then by God then that’s what I’ll do!"

In the very next bit of this interview (all credit to Tricia and Websleuths) MR is asked about appearing on Nancy Grace (high profile, nationally and internationally) his response was:

"Umm…I’ll be honest with you. I’m not a huge fan of hers, and I don’t know that that’s the kind of avenue that’s gonna’ best get out…I…it’s not that I’m opposed by any means to going on Nancy Grace and that, but...I thought…"

SMH. By God, that's what he'll do.


Anonymous said...

I get the impression he thinks a traveling salesman or over-the-road truck driver has his son.
He went on Dr. Phil. That's national.
Who likes NG anyway?
Websleuths is a forum that stays stuck on some fragment or aspect of a case in whch they have no business and they terrorise others.

Anonymous said...

Redwine's trucking company is based in Indianapolis. The prosecutor mentioned this at his bail hearing.

"While law enforcement searched a nearby mountainside last week, Redwine was in Indianapolis, handing out fliers to truck drivers so they could look for his child on their routes. "

http://people.com/crime/dylan-redwines-remains-found-father-mark-redwine-denies-involvement/

I hope the FBI at least looks into what Redwine was doing on Feb 13 and 14 of this year.

Anonymous said...

There is always the chance, however slight, that Redwine could have done the murders (girls)for reasons of publicity.Many today do such things. The flyers he passed out were of his own child and not the two girls as I understand from the post above.

If he is such a wretched alcoholic, it's hard to believe he'd be able to pass his physical-especially at his age- to drive if semis were what he commanded.

Perhaps it would be better to look for the fetish stopover he enjoyed while out and about. Afterall, someone took the photo.

If the photo the girls took is all they've got, they had to assume many features.

He would have had to get access to the park as abandoning 80' of truck isn't as easy as you would think.

I found two articles which try to follow the serial killer genre like where you are going with this. One links a body found 120 miles away and another pushes innuendos at a 77 year old "habitual traffic violator." (Obviously people who write from a cage somewhere in some part of the world for unknown reasons).

Distance from Delphi to Indianapolis?

Anonymous said...

Delphi to Indianapolis is about 75 miles. And from what I understand, Redwine would sometimes drive his truck to Indy to get the 18 wheeler he would drive for work.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you notify the police in that area of the resemblance and let them check it out? Be done with it once and for all.

Is it really necessary to convince others of his guilt until it is proven? If so, why?

Anonymous said...

Cont from my post from 7:48 re: Mark interview: Towards the end of the interview Mark spiderwebs into talking about how he and Dylan were trying to find a certain baseball stadium but werent sure where it was, and when they walked around a corner, there it was and Mark says "It HIT us LIKE A ROCK."
I hope someone will let prosecution know that Mark likely attacked Dylan with a hammer and also possibly a large rock, brick, etc.

I also noted sensitivity when Mark states that Dylan could only get phone reception from the corner of the couch and MARK'S ROOM. Mark says "He DIDNT go up to my room."

Immediately following his talking about not being able to wake Dylan he mentions DOORS, stating he had a payroll issue and showed up to his work first thing in the morning BECAUSE "that's when the DOORS OPENED".
Unfortunately those linguistuc indicators combined with Marks sexual perversions and him leaving pictures of his perversions on his laptop where his kids saw them combined with Marks hypercontrol over Dylan, jealousy towards Dylans friends suggest the very disturbing possibility that Mark may have or may have tried to sexually abuse Dylan. In fact I am wondering if that may be a factir in what motivated Mark to kill Dylan.

Anonymous said...

Trudy I just read your post regarding Mark. Holy. SHIT. Yeah he had to have used a hammer. It is so important prosecution know that to build their case bc they dont have the murder weapon.

Anonymous said...

Libby and Abby got dropped off and walked down a road before they entered the wooded area didnt they? Mark may have seen them walking. Perhaps he considered them "hitchhikers". My guess is Mark prob thinks anyone walking along a road is a "hitchhiker" and therefeore considers them potential
prey. LE should definitely be told to look into Redwine re the Delphi killings since the guy has been Indiana and he looks so similar to the suspect!!!

Bubbles said...

I believe second degree murder is the right charge, because they can prove it. If they go too far with the charges we'll end up with another parent walking free and not being held accountable for killing his child. I am for the death penalty in theory, but in reality it's such a huge expense for the state, and considering what a heavy drinker Mark is, he'll probably die of liver failure long before he'd actually be executed.

Peter Hyatt said...

I think Dylan died as a hero.

Here is why:

it is beyond the scope of a single entry, but in the statements there is a conflict.

My guess is that Mark attacked Elaine to Dylan and Dylan defended her .

He was not a man, nor was he a boy, but in the most vulnerable places to be and he did not want to be with his father, for good reason.

the father's perversion would not allow for any excuse and I think Mark blamed Elaine for Dylan not wanting to be there.

Mark could not control himself because, in his perversity, he had decades of practice of gratifying himself above all others and at the cost of others.

Dylan may have died defending his mother. This makes him a hero to old school thinkers on nobility, sacrifice and manhood.

Peter

Laura said...

Peter, Great post. Dylan certainly did die a hero. As Elaine said on the Chelsea Hoffman interview (for anyone interested, Mark calls in at the end), Dylan "had his own voice" she says on the context of Dylan potentially having spoken up to Mark before Mark killed him.
I will be very interested to read any follow-up post you write re: this case.

I am also interested as to whether there is any video surveillance or receipt evidence of Mark going through the McDonalds drive through with Dylan or taking Dylan to WalMart.
Bubbles, I believe Mark deserves the death penalty. He is pure evil. His being an alcoholic in no way should get him off the hook under the assumption he will die soon from liver damage. My grandfather drank a liter of vodka a day snd lived to be 92 yrs old. Marks liver will begin regenerating as soon as the booze supply is cut off.

So much of what Mark says is so sketchy, even aboit the supposed "delay" of Dylans flight on his way to Marks.

No food in house
No Thanksgiving plans
No trip to WalMart
Was there a trip to McDonalds?

Dylan was obviously killed very soon after his arrival.
Prosecution will need to piece that together when & where it occurred.
Mark talks a lot about "the river" (he thought Dylan was at river, Dylsn often wandered down to the river. Is that where Mark killed him? At the river? Also, note the Delphi killer killed those girls near the creek and put their bodies in the creek.

tania cadogan said...

Dear anonymous ranting about Charlie guard.

I suggest you do some reading of the courts judgemens regarding Charlie Gard and his parents.

The american doctor who claimed he could help had not actually visited Charlie nor read the copious medical notes regarding Charlie and his disease.

The hospital was initially going to try nucleoside therapy but Charlie then had 17 days of near constant severe fits which caused brain damage and the hospital decided not to try the therapy as it would not have worked on Charlie.
The american doctor when asked by the parents withdrew his offer when he learned just how sick Charlie was. Remember Charlie has the rarerest of the mitochondrial diseases which not only affected his muscles, it also affected all his organs and his brain.
The suggested treatment had only been tried on people who has the less rare TK2 which affected only the muscles.
It would not have worked on Charlie.
The family claimed new evidence showing it would work and GOSH went to court and said OK show us and if you think it will work we will go for it.

"not only had he not visited the hospital to examine Charlie but in addition, he had not read Charlie’s contemporaneous medical records or viewed Charlie’s brain imaging".

The doctor had also not "read all of the second opinions about Charlie’s condition (obtained from experts all of whom had taken the opportunity to examine him and consider his records) or even read the Judge’s decision made on 11 April,” the hospital said in a statement read out in the courtroom by Katie Gollop QC.

“Further, GOSH was concerned to hear the Professor state, for the first time, whilst in the witness box, that he retains a financial interest in some of the NBT compounds he proposed prescribing for Charlie.”


The american dcotor showed up and after seeing Charlie in situ with all the tubes and machinery and all his notes plus the results of a new 4 hour scan said his treatment would not work.
The parents then withdrew their demand for Charlie to get treatment.
Charlie is blind, deaf and mute, he cannot move any muscles and he has profound brain damge both from the disease abnd also all the epileptic fits he has.
he cannot cough or swallow so his tubes need to be suctioned regularly to keep them clear. his kidneys are failing so he requires dialysis, his heart and liver are also failing.
Charlie is nearly a year old, every other sufferer with his exact disease has died before 4 months so GOSH have done well to keep him alive this long.

The parents now want him to die at home, having him for a week befiore they turn off life support, however the ventilator he needs to use would not fit through the doorway of their huse plus as he needs specialized care he would need an ICU nurse there 24/7 plus an ICU doctor close by. GOSH has suggested a hospice.
The judge has said in court the chances of him dying at home are remote given Charlie's needs plus a week would be too long to keep him alive due to the pain etc.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/gosh-v-yates-and-gard-20170411-1.pdf

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2017/410.html

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/charlie-gard-190617.pdf

tania cadogan said...

Doctors discovered he had a rare inherited disease - infantile onset encephalomyopathy mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome (MDDS).

The condition causes progressive muscle weakness and brain damage.
RRM2B.

The treatment which can be given orally or via injection would have to cross the blood brain barrier in Charlie's case and that would be very hard to do.

The treatment also would not have treated or reversed Charlie's brain damage.

The parents wanted a 30 MRI scan (i wonder why unless they thought something would be found that would contradict GOSH) or they would appeal and then go for the 4 hr scan giving them more time with a live Charlie)

Looking at the recent pictures, it looks like Charlie's head had stopped growing in relation to the rest of him despite the severe bloating which would be caused by his failing heart and kidneys. No head growth is a bad sign and would indicate his brain had stopped growing.

GOSH's priority is the same with every patient.
The health and well being of the child comes first and they will refuse the parents demands if they believe it will cause harm or distress to the patient, even going to court if needs be as we see here.
A classic case in America is Jahi McMath who is physically and legally dead yet her parents moved to another state where religious belief trumps fact and if the family believe heart death is the only death the courts will agree, which is why Jahi is in an apartment somewhere on full life support with her heart still beating even though she is brain dead and has been for several years
The parents of Jahi have refused independant doctors to perform test that would show if she was alive or bot including the apnoea test which would cause her to breathe or attempt to breathe once her CO2 reaches a certain level as the brain stem would initiate the breath reflex. No reflex means the brain is dead.

Anonymous said...

Tania, Im not impressed by all the doctor mumbo-jumbo. There is reason to believe Charlies braon damage was reversible. In the picture of him, he does nit look to be in any pain, he is sleeping peacefully.
If those doctors know so much, they would not have said his brain scans look "sad". Does that sound professional or knowledgeable? No, it does not. It sounds like a first grader giving a summary of a brain scan. Nope sorry not good enough. If Charlie's tubes had to be suctioned oh friggin well. They shpuld have given him a chance to get the treatment. For all we know, he didnt even have mitochondrial disease & also how can they tell he is blind, deaf and mute?! Did he tell them while he is unconscious with tubes in his mouth "I am completely blind. Oh, I also am deaf." If there was a treatmebt available that helped less severe cases, they shpuld have let him try it! There is no harm. Baby's brain cells are incredibly resilient. These doctors know so very little and imposed their God complexes onto Charlie Gard. THEY HAD NO RIGHT. And also HOW VERY CRUEL IF THEMM TO IMPOSE A PAINFUL DEATH ON HIM BY REMOVING THE BREATHING TUBES. WHY DONT THEY GIVE HIM A LETHAL INJECTION SO HE DIES PEACEFULLY NOT SUFFOCATING TO DEATH? WHY? ILL TELL YOU WHY BC THEY DONT WANT TO ADMIT THEY ARE KILLING HIM. THEY WPULD RATHER HAVE HIM DIE A PAINFUL INHUMANE DEATH BC THEY DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT THEY ARE KILLING HIM. LYING SCUMBAG DOCTORS.

tania cadogan said...

off topic

Police body camera footage shows the moment the father of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine was arrested for allegedly murdering the teen.

Mark Redwine was arrested in Washington state early Saturday morning after the Bellingham Police Department used GPS to track his tractor trailer.

Redwine was arrested on a second degree murder warrant for the death of his son Dylan who went missing in 2012.

He had previously denied having a part in his son's death, even to the point of appearing on Dr Phil in 2013 to blame his ex-wife.

In body camera footage from his arrest, which was released to Denver 7 on Tuesday, Redwine appears confused.

This body camera video depicts the moments police arrested Mark Redwine in Washington State. Denver7 Investigates' Jace Larson obtained the video. More on the arrest and insights behind the video: http://bit.ly/2eM7esG
Posted by Denver7 on Tuesday, 25 July 2017

The video shows police approach Redwine's truck with their guns drawn, giving instructions over a loudspeaker for him to leave the truck and get down on the ground, which he did.

Then Redwine, wearing a red t-shirt and a baseball cap, can be seen in the footage lying on his stomach with his hands by his head before police handcuff him.

'If you guys can, can you please explain to me what's going on?' he asks the officers.

Later in the nine-minute video, they tell him he is being arrested in connection with a warrant for second degree murder.

Redwine had bail set at $1million when he appeared in court charged with Dylan's murder on Monday.

Authorities claimed the boy was killed after seeing 'compromising images' of his dad.

Dylan went missing on November 18, 2012. He was on a court-ordered visit with his father in Colorado at the time.

The child's remains were found seven months later scattered in southwestern Colorado by wild animals.

tania cadogan said...

A grand jury indicted Redwine last Wednesday on second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death after the four-and-a-half-year investigation, according to 9 News.

Redwine has constantly denied playing a role in his son's death and at one point appeared on Dr Phil to blame his ex-wife for the child's death.

Redwine appeared in court for an extradition hearing, the Durango Herald reported.

However, the issue of whether he will fight extradition will be decided at a later date after confusion over whether Redwine was offered his right to waive the hearing.

Instead the court was given an outline of the charges against him and bail was set.

In the grand jury indictment, investigators said blood was found in multiple locations in Redwine's living room, including his couch.

Cadaver dogs even found the scent of a dead body in various locations in the home and on the clothes Redwine wore the night Dylan disappeared, the indictment says.

In 2014, the cadaver dog also picked up the scent of a body in the bed of Redwine's pickup truck, according to the indictment.

But a year before that, investigators said Dylan's half-brother told them that Redwine had mentioned Dylan died of blunt-force injuries.

Authorities also said Redwine had mentioned how investigators would have to find his son's skull before they determined how the teen died.

Dylan lived north of Colorado Springs with his mother, Elaine Redwine, but went to his father's home near Vallecito Reservoir northeast of Durango for a court-ordered visit in November 2012.

His dad said he returned home from doing errands to find his son had gone. The two parents subsequently blamed each other for their son's disappearance.

But in June 2013, Dylan's partial remains were found on Middle Mountain.

Hikers found his skull 1.5 miles away on November 1, 2015, according to 9 News.

Investigators said Dylan's skull was found in difficult terrain that was easily accessible by a road that Mark Redwine was very familiar with.

The skull had injuries consistent with blunt force trauma and two small markings that appeared to be tool marks from a knife, the indictment alleges.

Months after the first remains were found in 2013, Ms Hall said she believed her ex-husband killed Dylan.

'I always have from day one, when he was missing,' she told The Pine River Times at the time.

Ms Hall told police that her ex-husband had told her if he ever had to get rid of a body, it would be in the mountains, according to the indictment.

According to the indictment, Dylan had not been getting along with his father prior to his disappearance as he watched his two parents in the midst of a bitter divorce and custody battle.

Hall told authorities that her ex-husband told her he would 'kill the kids before he let her have them', the indictment alleges.

In another incident Dylan's mother and father argued outside of his home.

According to the indictment, the argument stemmed from 'compromising photos' of Redwine that Dylan had seen. The nature of those photos was not discussed.

In 2015, Ms Hall filed a wrongful death suit against Redwine in which she alleged 'the death of Dylan Redwine was the proximate and direct result of the negligence of the defendant'.

Redwine is still being held in Bellingham, Washington on a $1million bond and is facing extradition to Colorado.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730418/Moment-Mark-Redwine-arrested-murder-son-Dylan.html

Death Penalty for Mark Redwine said...

Im just going to ask the obvious and disturbing question. Why are there 2 knife marks on Dylan's skull? Wtf did Mark do to him?
He is being charged with murder resulting from child abuse? Oh no no no. That is bull. THERE ARE KNIFE MARKS ON HIS SKULL. Where are the prosecutors balls? They're gonna handle this flea bag with kid gloves? Marks not a child abuser who hit his kid too hard. He's more like a Jeffrey Dahmer. GET SOME BALLS COLORADO AND GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thats not justice. Mark roamed free for 5 yrs. If a stranger murdered Dylan and knife marks on Dylans skull, he would not be being charged with "child abuse". Mark Redwine is getting special treatment just bc he is the sperm donor. Its an absolute travesty of justice! This is not a "heavily circumstantial case" as some experts are flapping their gums saying. No, this is a slam dunk aggravated murder case.

Anonymous said...

It will be heavily circumstantial if and when the media runs the show.
As it stands, he will probably get a public defender-one who examines all the mistakes made in the last 5 years.
He showed diligence among his peers in searching for the boy and probably has drinking buddies that will stand with him. Though his children and his ex had no respect for him and were likely abused by him, more will jump on board to administer more abuse. You can count on it.

They hire a retired FBI profiler to tell them what everyone already knew.
A mail woman claimed to have seen the boy the next day. Maybe a mistaken identity since he didn't hang with his father much, but still a sighting.
Dog hits on spots...could that have been old hunting animal decay?
Blood? Did he cut himself fishing? In the kitchen?

And, there's the judge that sent Dylan there. What of the politics and how much will they back off because of it?

Hopefully those that lust for the child mutilation descriptions will back off at least until a conviction is in hand.

Media reports he fled to avoid prosecution. He is an over the road trucker. He had no idea that a warrant had been issued. The trial will be difficult and maybe moved because of these same lies.

His behavior will garner sympathy for himself.His ex knows him as evil...because she knows him. His photo makes him look pathetic and sorrow filled imo.(I don't know him)

Anonymous said...

Anon, Yes I hear what youre saying but prosecution needs to present a solid case of what happened. They need a profiler to present Mark as the sick puppy he is.
My only point is that from the details on the indictment it is ludicrous to spin it as "child abuse" resulting in murder. Mark should pay for what he did by receiving the death penalty. He crossed the line where he no longer can claim he deserves to walk around on this earth. My heart breaks for Elaine. I feel she might receive some peace if received the death penalty and was no longer on the earth.
Oh also, regarding Marks mugshot, He does look pathetic but I dont see the "sorrowful" look, imo he looks pathetic and and there is a disturbing quality that makes me want to look away bc he looks kinda crazy with the one eye looking off in different direction.
Re: The trial...they need a good cross-examiner to trip him up...he likes to talk and "spiderweb"....make it so he gets caught in one of his spiderwebs. Make it seem like they are falling for his bull and get him to say too much.

Anonymous said...

Anon, when you say "My only point is that from the details on the indictment it is ludicrous to spin it as "child abuse" resulting in murder." it is clear that is NOT your only point.

Your only point is Mark should be killed and his children should pull the trigger since they, and his ex, are truly the only ones that can present Mark as a sick puppy-and they will. You go on to say, "My heart breaks for Elaine. I feel she might receive some peace if received the death penalty and was no longer on the earth."

Perhaps a profiler should be posted outside the courthouse awaiting your arrival, eh?

Anonymous said...

And, here you are again:

Thats not justice. Mark roamed free for 5 yrs. If a stranger murdered Dylan and knife marks on Dylans skull, he would not be being charged with "child abuse". Mark Redwine is getting special treatment just bc he is the sperm donor. Its an absolute travesty of justice! This is not a "heavily circumstantial case" as some experts are flapping their gums saying. No, this is a slam dunk aggravated murder case.""

July 25, 2017 at 11:21 PM

Utilizing "formulated phrases" one would conclude you are from a mid-western state that employees tinfoilers as mouthieces with phrases such as: 'flapping their gums' in lieu of 'saying' and somehow managing to say nothing at least twice. The use of 'sperm donor' is used by those hoping to develop a cult following who aligns themselves with Army intelligence officers (assuming there is such)and hackers from around the world.Not mentioned in this post is "the powers that be" (a predominately Southern Baptist term also known to be used in the commission of their terror stalking blogs).

Inasmuch as that particular bullsh!t may work in certain regions including and not limited to Fla., Texas, Oklahoma, and parts of the country elsewhere, it may not fly in Colorado well at all.

John mcgowan said...

OT Update:

He was accused of obstructing justice in the Heather Elvis case. Now, he’s going to trial

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article163485968.html

Anon said...

Anon 11:56, Yeah I can tell you feel bad for Mark as you stated 'he "may" have abused Elaine & the kids, but he looks pathetic and sorrowful in his mugshot." Mark's a good actor. If it benefits Mark to look pathetic & sorrowful, Mark will look pathetic & sorrowful. Do you think Mark was sincere when cops had him get out if his truck with guns drawn & Mark sheepishly asked "If you can, can you tell me what this is about?" Do you think Mark had "forgotten" he murdered his son by beating him to death and then desecrated his corpse, blamed his heartbroken wife while animals ate his sons remains? Yeah what a sweetheart. Poor Mark Redwine.
Mark Refwine is a sophisticated manipulator who twists reality at every turn. A good example would be when he said on Dr Phil to Elaine "What kind of mother are you that you would think I would ever harm our son?" So Mark can murder his own child and if someone suspects him, that means they are the bad person. Love the mind-bending "llogic". Mark should be executed and yes I believe that people who murder children should be executed & that the parent of the murdered child should be given the option of pulling the switch or adminstering the lethal injection. Is that me bring not "understanding" enough towards Mark? Is that me being "mean"? No. Marks been pampered like a princess. He had 5 years of freedom after murderimg his own son with all evidence pointing to Mark. Mark did something VERY BAD to Dylan and desecrated his corpse and now Marks getting watered down charges of "child abuse". Yeah that sounds about right bc most abused children have marks from a "tool" on their skull. MARK DESERVES TO FRY.

Anonymous said...

And also you can feel free to go give your liberal hugs to Mark Redwine bc he looks "sad" in his mugshot. Mark is pure evil & the pain he has caused Elaine is excruciating and she will likely never be free of that pain & also he TOOK HIS CHILDS LIFE. If someone murders their child, they have crossed a line where they can no longer claim they belong on this earth. Elaine should be allowed to sentence Mark.

Anon said...

Also if Mark is so sorrowful, why doesnt he admit to what he did & plead guilty to spare Elaine the agony of the trial & having to hear the details rehashed & having to hear Marks lawyer talk about what a sweetie pie he is & you can be sure smear her. Remember Mark tried to blameshift his murdering Dylan by stating that Elaine had not packed a winter jacket for Dylan? Another mind-bending statement from Mark. Mark will not tell the truth & spare Elaine any suffering bc MARK CARES ABOUT ONE PERSON AND ONE PERSON ONLY. HIMSELF. Is he fifghting extradition yet? I bet he will.

But I am a robot! said...

Quoting one of a million generic Anonymous posters:

They need to charge him with premeditated murder & go for the death penalty.
~~~
This is what I thought as I read everyone (rightfully) calling for the death penalty! Even in Texas or Louisiana they can't ask for the death penalty for second-degree murder. And since there is a moratorium in Colorado at the time of arrest, they could later vote to allow it for shoplifting and they still won't be able to lay it on him for Dylan's murder, so WHY are they not going for first-degree to at least allow for LWOP?!?


... and they should put extra voltage into his electric chair.
~~~
Now this is just wrong. How could you even suggest such a thing?! That would make it more quick and painless. I'm thinking something more like the dry sponge sizzle-fest scene from The Shawshank Redemption.
(To any who believe this puts me on the same level as the cowardly, remorseless child torturer, so be it –– I would still feel exactly the same about any scumbag who harms your children, of which I sincerely hope you NEVER learn the soul-crushing pain and helpless rage Elaine and the rest of Dylan's family and friends now endure).

tania cadogan said...

Off topic and tickling my fancy

The white civil rights leader exposed for pretending to be black was accused of doing 'a runner' by Piers Morgan today as she pulled out of an interview.

Rachel Dolezal, 39, a former branch president for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, was due to appear on Good Morning Britain.

But Morgan tweeted: 'So Rachel Dolezal, the white woman who "identifies" as black, has done a runner and now won't be on GMB today. I identify her as a coward.'

He said on the ITV show: 'We were going to be interviewing Rachel Dolezal, who is the quite infamous American woman who is white - and was born to white parents - but identifies as black, which is obviously ridiculous.

'We were looking forward to talking to her about that, she's written a book, but she's done a runner.

'Couldn't stand the heat, so she's got out of the kitchen before we've even put the kettle on, to torture that metaphor.

Morgan added 'So, my apologies. Wherever you are, Miss Dolezal, I think we know why you don't want to talk about this, don't we?

'Because you're not black, you're white, and I was going to say to you "why do you pretend to be black when you're white?"

'Because actually it's incredibly insulting, very offensive and I think that's why you've done a runner. So, my apologies to our viewers who were looking forward to that debate, I was too.

'But I think she is now identifying as a coward, and there's not much you can do about that.'

Miss Dolezal, who was born blue-eyed and blonde, hit the headlines in 2015 after it emerged that she had been posing as an African-American for around a decade.

According to her parents, the activist had misled people about her ethnicity for years - and even tried to pass off a black child they adopted as her own son.

Miss Dolezal, who is from Spokane, Washington, once claimed to have faced repeated harassment from white racists who once hung a noose in her garage.

She also said watching the film 12 Years A Slave at the cinema was an ordeal because she was stared at by others wanting to gauge a black person's reaction.

The NAACP had publicly backed Miss Dolezal, but local members were critical and she said in June 2015 it was in the group's 'best interest' for her to step down.

She was also kicked off a police ombudsman commission and lost her job teaching African studies at Eastern Washington University in nearby Cheney.

She has not had a regular job since the revelations emerged,but has written an autobiography, 'In Full Color: Finding My Place in a Black and White World'.

Morgan, DailyMail.com U.S. Editor-at-Large, was expecting to interview her today and the GMB Twitter account said at 7.27am that it would be coming up.

But the 52-year-old presenter tweeted at 7.49am that she had pulled out to the dismay of ITV viewers who had been looking forward to the interview.

Lucy Weaver tweeted: 'That's annoying, I'm watching on +1 and was looking forward to that. Would have been a colourful discussion.'

And Twitter user SKB Baby added: 'Shame! I was looking forward to that interview. She is a high, highly offensive delisional individual.'

Meanwhile Simon Lennon tweeted: 'Maybe she identifies as being on GMB today. Saying otherwise would be oppressive.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4731514/Piers-Morgan-slams-race-faker-Rachel-Dolezal.html

But I am a robot! said...

Tania, thanks for the much more detailed info on the death penalty laws.This is why I usually read all of the comments before launching my yapper via keyboard. :^D

Quoting another generic Anonymous:
Mark may have strongly resented Dylan hitting the teenage years and the fact that he probably stopped thinking that Mark was "super cool" just bc he was his Dad.
~~~
Oh, that bittersweet moment in every young man's life, when he discovers his larger-than-life, superhero father is just another typical diaper-wearing, feces-gobbling suburban dad like all of the rest…
Seriously, this when considered with his sociopathic personality and rage issues, makes me wonder just how horrific were his punishments for real or imagined offenses?


Quoting generic Anonymous No.793,640:
Mark looks a lot like the suspect in the Abby and Libby murder in Indiana. He's spent time in Indianapolis and was strangely there passing out fliers when Dylan's remains were found.
If an experienced, calculating sociopathic serial killer had just murdered two more child victims out of state, and noticed the "Hey, isn't he that guy?!" expression on multiple faces, his first move would likely be to grab flyers out of his truck and start passing them out.
Alibi building for the poor little girls' case while boosting his dedicated, worried father image –– "Look how far he'll travel to find his poor, beloved son!"

But I am a robot! said...

Quoting Trudy, who is quoting Mark Redwine:
"Umm…I’ll be honest with you. I’m not a huge fan of hers, and I don’t know that that’s the kind of avenue that’s gonna’ best get out…I…it’s not that I’m opposed by any means to going on Nancy Grace and that, but...I thought…"

(Trudy's words here): "

SMH. By God, that's what he'll do.
~~~
Spot on, Trudy! This is the equivalent of beginning a letter to the editor with, "I know you won't print this, but…" or an online post with, "I know I'll get deleted, but…" to ensure it gets and stays published. Weak, childish and manipulative.


To the especially Ranty McRanterson Anonymous:
This quote by Tania makes it clear the American doctor is the incompetent blowhard whose bloated ego caused his crocodile mouth to override his cockroach brain:
"not only had he not visited the hospital to examine Charlie but in addition, he had not read Charlie’s contemporaneous medical records or viewed Charlie’s brain imaging".
~~~
If he'd actually managed to get his grubby hands (all !0 thumbs) on poor Charlie based upon this wealth of scientific analysis of the medical facts, it would amount to malpractice with extreme cruelty.


Quoting more of your shrill screaming:
how can they tell he is blind, deaf and mute?! Did he tell them while he is unconscious with tubes in his mouth "I am completely blind. Oh, I also am deaf."
~~~

Do you seriously not understand basic physiology? Even when comatose, the pupils will constrict in response to bright light IF the information is getting to the brain. Blown pupils are always a sign of brain damage.

They can test his optic nerves to evaluate if they're functioning, i.e.; if signals are getting through to the brain. Anyone with any degree of paralysis will tell you that dead nerves cannot regenerate or grow new pathways, period.
So, no matter if he grew an entirely new brain, it would be like replacing the picture tube (or microchips) in a TV you cannot plug into a power source – you still aren't going to be able to see anything.

They can evaluate the retinas to determine whether they are functioning. Retinas are made up of brain tissue, so damage to the retina is another good indicator of damage to the brain.

If he is unable to blink, and his eyes remain open for even an hour or two without artificial tears instilled every few seconds, his corneas will have severe scarring, again unrepairable nerve damage.

And the capper, again your own words:
If Charlie's tubes had to be suctioned oh friggin well.
~~~

Yeah, that'll show the little troublemaker to have supposedly incompetent doctors! He really needs to pay for that one! Who is thinking of Charlie's comfort and best interests here??

I will completely agree that they should have done it humanely, not just cowardly disconnecting his breathing tube! But again, we Americans aren't one to talk, if you'll recall Terri Schiavo. 


Anonymous said...

So you had your wheaties and orange juice so now you think you're a brilliant neurologist?!?!

You wrote:

Do you seriously not understand basic physiology? Even when comatose, the pupils will constrict in response to bright light IF the information is getting to the brain. Blown pupils are always a sign of brain damage.

They can test his optic nerves to evaluate if they're functioning, i.e.; if signals are getting through to the brain. Anyone with any degree of paralysis will tell you that dead nerves cannot regenerate or grow new pathways, period.

You are crazy. Baby's brains can regenerate. Why the hell do you know Charlie is paralyzed? Is that what you are saying?!? There have been cases of small children having to have an entire hemisphere of their brain removed, and the brain somehow completely restructured it's neuronal pathways to compensate for the entire missing hemisphere. WE don't know jack shit about how the human brain works and that is actually FALSE to say that paralyzed people never grow new neuronal pathways. It actually happens ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your points are all moot anyway, because the point is that Charlie Gard should have been allowed to get the experimental treatment.

Anonymous said...

But I am a robot wrote

"Oh, that bittersweet moment in every young man's life, when he discovers his larger-than-life, superhero father is just another typical diaper-wearing, feces-gobbling suburban dad like all of the rest…"

OK, that is funny.

Also, if anyone is interested, I read somewhere that Elaine said she thinks Mark looks "evil" in his mugshot and that he is evil and has always been evil. Just wanted to let people here know since there has been much discussion about how Mark looked in his mugshot.

Anonymous said...

Link with Elaine's comments regarding Mark's mugshot

https://durangoherald.com/articles/174574-dylan-redwine-x2019-s-mother-x2018-it-was-such-a-senseless-crime-x2019

tania cadogan said...

This made me titter.

Fact-checking website Snopes is on the verge of financial collapse after its owner was accused of embezzling company funds to pay for his contentious divorce battle and lavish overseas trips with his new wife, a former Las Vegas escort and porn actress.

The company's financial woes have gotten so bad that Snopes' owner David Mikkelson started a crowd-funding website pleading for donations this week, which raised over $500,000 from generous readers in its first day.

But DailyMail.com can disclose significant facts which are entirely missing from the fact-checking website's version of events - including the fraud allegations against Mikkeslon.

Snopes.com was started by David Mikkelson and his ex-wife Barbara in the mid-1990s as a website that debunked myths and urban legends.

In recent years, it has started to delve into the area of politics and 'fact-checking' so-called 'fake news' stories.

After the presidential election, Snopes was chosen by Facebook to sit on a panel of arbiters who would determine whether news stories posted to the social media site were 'fake news.'

But at the same time, DailyMail.com revealed in December, the two co-founders were involved in a bitter divorce battle in which he was accused of embezzling nearly $100,000 in company funds to spend on personal expenses and prostitutes.

Barbara asked a court at the time to restrict Mikkelson's bank access, claiming his wild spending was going to deplete the company's accounts.

Now an advertising and internet services company called Proper Media is making similar accusations against Mikkelson in a lawsuit filed in May in California which is scheduled for a court hearing next month.

Proper Media's owners last year purchased 50 percent of Bardav Inc., the company founded by both Mikkelsons that owns Snopes, taking Barbara's 50 per cent share.

Proper Media claims that over the past year Mikkelson 'engaged in a lengthy scheme of concealment and subterfuge to gain control of the company and to drain its profits.'

Mikkelson counters that Proper Media – which Snopes also contracts for advertising work – has been holding the website 'hostage' by 'withholding advertising revenue.'

tania cadogan said...

Mikkelson counters that Proper Media – which Snopes also contracts for advertising work – has been holding the website 'hostage' by 'withholding advertising revenue.'

In a plea for donations this week, the Snopes founder said the website 'is in danger of closing its doors' due to Proper Media allegedly refusing to turn over ad income or relinquish its control of advertising on the website.

'Our legal team is fighting hard for us, but, having been cut off from all revenue, we are facing the prospect of having no financial means to continue operating the site and paying our staff (not to mention covering our legal fees) in the meanwhile,' said Mikkelson.

But Proper Media insists that Mikkelson's personal spending and mismanagement is to blame for Snopes's money woes.

In legal papers filed in San Diego Superior Court, they say: 'But while Snopes is built entirely around the concepts of transparency and truth, its founder, Defendant David Mikkelson ('Mikkelson') has engaged in a lengthy scheme of concealment and subterfuge to gain control of the company and to drain its profits.'

The company says Mikkelson unilaterally broke the advertising contract earlier this year and has bristled at shareholder efforts to rein in his spending.

They note that even as Mikkelson claimed to be under financial duress in court filings in June, he signed the documents while on a trip to Orleans, France.

'If Mikkelson is permitted to continue unabated as a director of Bardav, he will irreversibly drain the company of important financial resources through personal and unnecessary expenditures,' said Proper Media in the lawsuit.

The company also claims Mikkelson carried out 'pervasive fraud' at Snopes and used the accounts to pay for lavish trips and personal items while refusing requests from shareholders to examine his expenditures.

According to the lawsuit, Mikkelson spent 'tens of thousands of dollars' from the company on legal fees for his acrimonious divorce from Barbara last year, a drawn-out battle that included disputes over Mikkelson's salary and alleged spending on prostitutes.

Court documents from their divorce and its aftermath revealed that he wanted to be paid $720,000 a year.

He is also accused of spending 'tens of thousands of dollars' on personal trips, including a honeymoon with his new wife to Tokyo Disneyland.

The lawsuit claims Mikkelson spent money on Young, who he married last year.

Young was an escort in Las Vegas up until at least 2015 and charged $500 per hour, according to her website.

She has also starred in adult films under the name 'Erin O'Bryn,' and ran unsuccessfully for congress in Hawaii as a Libertarian in 2004.

tania cadogan said...

Her site, which is still online, describes her as 'an elite courtesan who provides discreet companionship for those who appreciate the finer things in life.'

'I have an adult woman's build and and the soul of an indomitable force of nature burning within it,' she wrote.

Young now works as an administrative assistant at Snopes.

Mikkelson claimed in legal filings that Bardav Inc. spends $165,000 per month running Snopes.com – a cost that is larger than the advertising revenue Proper Media says the website brings in.

'Bardav's claims of financial distress are gravely concerning,' said Proper Media. 'Mikkelson, by his own admission, is operating Bardav at a monthly deficit and cannot be trusted with the Bardav purse strings.'

'[N]otably, while he argues that Bardav is on the brink of collapse, [Mikkelson] signed his declaration in Orleans, France,' continued Proper Media.

The lawsuit also claims Mikkelson conspired with a former Proper Media employee named Vincent Green in an attempt to seize majority control of Bardav Inc. this spring.

Green, a Marine veteran who was vice president of operations at Proper Media, allegedly became close with Mikkelson while working on the Snopes.com website as part of his responsibilities at the advertising company.

'Throughout his employment, Green worked extensively on the Snopes website, and, as a result, came to personally know and befriend Mikkelson,' said the lawsuit.

tania cadogan said...

In late February, Proper Media claims that Green removed the company's access to the Snopes content-management system, fired three Proper Media employees, and seized thousands of dollars of computer equipment from Proper Media's offices.

'On information and belief, Green did so in conspiracy with and at the direction of Mikkelson,' claimed the lawsuit.

In March, Green allegedly listed himself on Snopes.com's staff webpage as a business development employee. That month, he is also accused of removing 'Snopes-related data from Proper Media's communication and project-management tools, including Slack and Asana.'

That same day, Mikkelson allegedly terminated a business agreement with Proper Media to run the Snopes.com advertising, effective 60 days later. On April 1, Mikkelson removed Proper Media's access to the company bank account, the lawsuit claims.

But it wasn't until April 3 that Green officially submitted his resignation, according to the lawsuit. Proper Media claims that he violated his fiduciary duties to the company.

Proper Media is asking for punitive and exemplary damages, and is also asking a judge to remove Mikkelson as a Bardav Inc. director.

It even suggests the site could be closed completely.

The case, with its claims of misconduct, fraud and use of prostitutes, is not mentioned at all on the SaveSnopes.com website or its linked GoFundMe.

The GoFundMe remains open despite having exceeded its $500,000 goal within 25 hours of being set up.

Proper Media, Mikkelson and Facebook did not respond to request for comment.

However on Tuesday Mikkelson told another journalism website, Poynter.org, that the 'money we raised will be used to meet our basic operating expenses, the overwhelming bulk of which is the salaries of our staff'.

Poynter is one of the other sites Facebook said it would be turning to for arbitration on what stories on its feed are 'fake news'.

Snopes.com is asking for money from supporters in a statement on a new website - SaveSnopes.com - which makes a series of claims about its history and activities - some of which appear to contradict other versions of events its founders have offered in the past. Here we break down some of the claims.

tania cadogan said...

SaveSnopes.com says:

'Snopes.com, which began as a small one-person effort in 1994 and has since become one of the Internet’s oldest and most popular fact-checking sites, is in danger of closing its doors.'

Fact-check:

Barbara Mikkelson told CNN in 2004 that 'it was started out as our hobby' while in 2005 the two were interviewed on NPR and it was reported that it was founded by them both in 1995. In 2009, the New York Times's Brian Stelter, now CNN's senior media correspondent, reported that it was founded in 1996. Snopes.com offers no documentary evidence of exactly when it was established and who out of Barbara and David were the one-person effort. In his response to being sued by Proper Media, Mikkeslon claims:'I founded Snopes.com in 1994.' No court ruling on any aspect of his or Proper Media's claims has been made.

SaveSnopes.com says:

'We had previously contracted with an outside vendor to provide certain services for Snopes.com. That contractual relationship ended earlier this year, but the vendor will not acknowledge the change in contractual status and continues to essentially hold the Snopes.com web site hostage.'

Fact check:

The 'outside vendor' Proper Media entirely disputes the truth of this version of events, and provides an alternative narrative. It says that the equity owners of Proper Media are entitled to a seat on the Snopes board, that Mikkelson was defrauding the company, and that they have not withheld advertising revenues. Additionally, Proper Media brought the case against Snopes. SaveSnopes.com does not say that as the court has made no ruling, it is not clear what the truth is.

SaveSnopes.com says:

'Since our inception, we have always been a self-sustaining site that provides a free service to the online world: we've had no sponsors, no outside investors or funding, and no source of revenue other than that provided by online advertising.'

Fact check:

The five owners of Proper Media agreed on May 29 2016 to buy Barbara Mikkleson's share of the company in the course of her contentious divorce. To do so they obtained a loan from from Diamond Creek Capital LLC. The five owners of Proper Media are therefore investors, with outside funding. Snopes, Facebook and Proper Media have declined to say if Facebook provided funding as part of its efforts against 'fake news'.

SaveSnopes.com says:

'Our legal team is fighting hard for us, but, having been cut off from all revenue, we are facing the prospect of having no financial means to continue operating the site and paying our staff (not to mention covering our legal fees) in the meanwhile.'

Fact check:

The court in San Diego ordered the release of $100,000 from Proper Media in advertising revenue to Snopes - at the request of Snopes itself. That would seem to invalidate its claim that it remains 'cut off from all revenue'. The SaveSnopes.com statement does not say if 'paying our staff' includes giving Mikkelson his allegedly fraudulent salary and expenses claims, which are at the heart of the dispute. Mikkelson and Proper Media have both declined to comment.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

Anonymous said...

OT @ John
So, they dropped murder charges when they realized they couldn't have trial by media and the accused not defend as same.?

@anon nagger:
Her description of his photo comes from what she knows and feels. Those not in that circle may not feel the same (defense attorneys, his friends, etc.)
What they've charged him with is appropriate and more likely winnable in court. It is the best solution for the family in the long run. They are the ones that hurt, not you or me.

Anonymous said...

I have a question: If people know so much about the brain, why would an anti-anxiety/anti-depressant drug cause clicking in your ears (one ear at a time), muscle soreness, and when I upped the dose before bedtime, it made me fall asleep but yet I was conscious and having a horrible dream with a voice yelling at me ( It was actually terrifying and I actually read that that could be a side effect and laughed out loud cause it sounded so ridiculous till it happened to me!) Then later on I had vivid dreams that I was at a concert of my favorite singer. I feel like I am thinking more clearly yet I feel no anti-depressant effect and I feel tired. I guarantee there is no explanation of why any of this stuff hapoens bc we dont understand the brain.

Anonymous said...

anon, Whatever. I think its likely that someone who eats their own crap has gone over to the dark side. That is some seriously triubling behaviir.

Anonymous said...

Tania, Thx 4 posting. I always enjoy your artickes��

Anonymous said...

@Anon 5:41, Yeah I'm sure Mark's public defender will view him so different than Elaine does and will want to get all snuggly with Mark (after he makes sure Mark has gargled with turbo strength mouth wash...there is nothing like the smell of fresh feces first thing in the morning when the guy's getting totally underpaid to defend Mark, a killer who deserves NO DEFENDER.

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Anonymous said...

@5:42 and thereafter,
Perhaps your numbnuts doctor diagnosed you incorrectly (you should at least get a doctorates)and you are instead a catatonic schizophrenic who relies on your homies and their group stalking activities for you meds.The lucid dreaming may be from illegal meds manufactured somewhere close to whereyou live.

Ever thought of that?

trustmeigetit said...

No time to read all the 120+ comments but sharing what I just read on the critical evidence.


Does anyone remember them talking about blood or cadaver scent before?



First, investigators found Dylan's blood in Mark Redwine's living room.


Second, cadaver dogs indicate a dead body was in Mark Redwine's living room, his washing machine and in the bed of his truck.

Third, according to the grand jury indictment, Redwine had an odd conversation with Dylan Redwine's half-brother after prosecutors found some of Dylan's remains.

According to the paperwork, his father mentioned blunt force trauma to Dylan's half-brother multiple times and said investigators would need to find the skull to determine how Dylan died.

Anonymous said...

@8:42, I hope youre kidding bc that is retarded. I also cant friggin stand people who talk about "group stalking". My doctor does have a doctorate and I have anxiety and inspmnia. The side effects I described happened for about a half hour when I first fell asleep. The medication is known to cause vivid dreaming, nightmares, etc in some people. Your commemt was insensitive, stupid & worthless. Youre the one who sounds like a schizophrenic with your paranoid delusions. Very f&ckin rude too to insult someone with anxiety/insomnia or any other similar problem. It sounds like you have a host of mental
problems and you are also a complete jerk, so how about you go back to defending Mark Redwine and F&CK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Trustmeigetit, No I dont remember them talking about any of that...obviously they have known
that for a long time but must have gotten thrown off by the shit-lover mailwomans claim she had seen Dylan or the possibility a racoon had killed him. MARK ROAMED FREE FOR 5 YEARS EVEN WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTING RIGHT AT HIM!

Anonymous said...

I have PTSD and supposedly this med helps with hypervigilance anxiety and insomnia. When people take medicine it is bc they need it and youre a scumbag for belittling them saying their meds were made by group stalkers. That is retarded and rude. It just shows what a nasty person you are. That must be why you love Mark Redwine.

Anonymous said...

Look how upset Mark looks at the beggining of this video (first 5 seconds). WHAT is he laughing about?!?!? And then when he starts talking his measured way of speaking sounds like Ted Bundy. SCARY!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY

Anonymous said...

Here's a short clip from Ted Bundy (by the way everything he is saying about his home life is bull)...but is it just me or do he and Mark have the same cadence in their speech...like the same measured way of talking (factor in that Ted Bundy is much more intelligent than Mark so picture he sounds more stupid like Mark but don't they have the same measured way of speaking?). WEIRD!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlk_sRU49TI

Anonymous said...

I just read in a recent comment (posted 35 min ago) under a youtube video regarding what a profiler was saying about Mark that he is a psychopath and narcissist....anyway this recent comment stated that the commenter had "heard" that Dylan's skeleton was found buried on Mark's property. So that's probably the mystery solved of why they just arrested Mark. And it also means they have an extremely strong case against Mark/

tania cadogan said...

Off topic (again)

THE body of a two-year-old boy was found in a swimming pool during a wedding – despite him not appearing to be there when police arrived.

Cops say they scoured the pool with infra-red kit after being called to the wedding reception at a home in Birmingham, Alabama, yesterday.

Marquavias Thweak, two, was discovered in a swimming pool during a wedding party

But it was only hours later that they discovered the body of little Marquavias Thweak.

The family of the youngster did not report him missing for 45 minutes, police said.

And when cops asked to search for him inside the home, they denied them access.

It was only several hours later when an officer found the tot floating face down.

Police are now trying to establish how little Marquavias died.

Lt Sean Edwards told AL.com: “There’s a lot of question marks that we have.

“If you have a two-year-old missing, you’re going to be 125 percent cooperative… most normal parents would say.

“It’s kind of interesting. There was a time where we didn’t have eyes on the pool after we searched it. Anything could have transpired then.”

When police arrived at the reception in Birmingham, Alabama, they had scoured the pool but found no trace of the tot.

The youngster had last been seen 45 minutes before his family called police at 12.45am in the early hours of Monday.

He had been at the wedding reception attended by around 70 people.

Police have since said they believe his death to have been a tragic accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4092476/mystery-as-missing-tot-2-is-found-dead-in-a-back-garden-swimming-pool-after-a-wedding-but-cops-say-his-body-wasnt-there-when-they-looked-earlier/


This is concerning if they refused to allow the police access.
Also in one picture he appears to have two upper front silver teeth.
If these are real is it to replace two rotten teeth?
At that age it is a huge concern and unless for a medical reason, it suggest rotten teeth perhaps from too many sugar laden soft and fizzy drinks.
Could this be child neglect or child abuse?

Are any of the family/ wedding group known to the police or CPS?
When you have a missing child and you refuse police access inside the home to search, you have something to hide.
Drugs, guns, evidence of a crime?

If he wasn't in the pool when police initially searched and then he was, did he fall in during the search?
In which case how come none of the searchers or police heard him?
If he was placed in the pool when police eyes were elsewhere then it smacks of a non accidental death.
The autopsy should be able to show if he was alive when he got into the pool or not.
if he was dead then they are looking at possible/probable homicide.

Poor child.

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous Insomniac -
This is not the appropriate forum for you to disclose the details of your personal ailments.

aNoNyMoUs said...

Some of Dylan's bones were found in 2014 within 8 miles of Mark's mountain property.
Dylan's Skull was found more than a year later, within throwing distance near a road that has closed seasonal access.
The blood evidence and human cadaver scents were discovered shortly after Dylan's disappearance.
Why the need for a Grand Jury decision 2 years After that, to confirm that Mark should be charged?
that mystery is Not solved...

elf said...

Baby's brains regenerate? Have you told this to any (surviving) victims of shaken baby syndrome?

Anonymous said...

@12:21, Blah blah blah blah blah.

I'll say whatever I want. If you don't like it, scroll.

Hasn't imagrandma talked about like 50 different ailments, yet she's keeping an eye on creeping sharia?

Anonymous said...

@12:40, Thanks for the explanation. I agree, the mystery hasn't been solved. It makes no sense that he wasn't arrested years ago.

I lost all faith in LE when I tried to report a suspected kidnapping (man black as midnight approached me years ago while me and my son were at a local playground at a park) and told me that a little 3 year old girl with white skin, blond hair and blue eyes was his bio daughter...oh also the guy had an English accent and was well dressed and charming and the little girl had no English accent...anyway, he kept telling me that people doubt that the little girl is his bio daughter but she is and that her Mom lives 150 miles away by the ocean, he gave no explanation of why he was in my town or where he lives. I was juggling a stroller and walking home, troubled by the incident, not knowing what to make of it, I had to feed my son and get him to take nap, later had dinner with my sister who was employed at the local jail, I told her about the incident and expressed concern the little girl may have been a kidnapping victim and asked her should I report it to police, she said yes absolutely it sounds very suspicious, I immediately drove down to the police station and reported it, the lady said that because I waited 7 hours to go to the police station she didn't care and shut the window thing and refused to speak to me. I suggested they perhaps send some extra patrol cars by the park and spread the word, try to see if the man came back, and she refused to answer.

THAT is why crimes don't get solved. Police can have obvious evidence and facts right in front of their face and they are like duh, I don't care.

Anonymous said...

Yes, 50 or more ailments. Mostly psychological.

In her area, life is short for those with real problems or stage four cancer as their meds are replaced and the real ones poofed into thin air. They hope to get as many as they can on them so their keybumping crews can come in and promote more mental illnesses. If you don't have meds, they'll visit relatives in other states to try and figure out why and how to get you on meds.

Anonymous said...

And, there has NOT been much discussion on how MR looked in his mugshot.One comment on how someone who has not kept up with the media drama nor listened to his ex wife
s side would view him (similar to how a jury pool may view him). The nutjobs only have friends that pursue and hope to convict anyone in the vicinity of a crime, and really twist off over child murders (their bread and butter industry when they aren't thieving their way into new venues).

Theirs is a simple way of life: "fess up or be bullying to death."

Annah said...

Thank God!
What do you all think of this current missing child case ? http://m.bransontrilakesnews.com/mobile/news_free/article_e2f2b3ee-6e49-11e7-bb2d-2788f0b23dfa.html

Extra information - the mom makes soap for sale and buys commercial Lye in bulk.

habundia said...

First mom tells the girl ran away because she burned herself with the fire....then she left between 10pm and 8am the next morning.
Mom talks about family. So nobody went after the girl when she ran away? Autistic and nobody who followed? At least not to know if she left at 10pm or before 8am the next morning?
If mom was burned so bad then that would mean she had been taken to hospital, at least i asume because it isnt said in article, just a bad burn...it sounded like it needed medical care. So was 911 called? Did they call the biological father?

Pfff so many questions this little piece of text gives.

habundia said...

PLUS mom shows she's a good mom by denying his father access to her (moms) videos.

HOG HABUNDIA SPERM DRINKER said...

STFU U demon HOG HEADED SOW!!! OINK U SPERM GUZZLER

Anonymous said...

I throw my WARM SPERMS INTO YOUR MOUTH,THEY SWIM INSIDE YOU,

Anonymous said...

Theirs is a simple way of life: "fess up or be bullying to death."

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Fess up or clam up. Find an alternate humble and quiet profession. Spend your life in reflection and be damn thankful you aren't in prison.

habundia said...

My mom warned me about a neighbour's mom who poisoned her husband's mom with cyanide,she was evil.

Anonymous said...

It's the paranoid Petes and re-Petes issuing their simple way of life...do as I think or go to jail.

Anonymous said...

Oh youre right Anon! Mark deserves compassion the poor man! He trued so hard to be a good father! And of course his crap eating fetish deserves compassion. Also he was a cross-dresser, so liberals should go give him a super bear hug! It doesnt matter that he murdered his kid, what counts is his sociopathic narcissism that he thinks he is so omnipotent tjat he can deny his biological gender and change it to something he is not and will nevrt be--liberals LOVE that because it echos their own delusions of omnipotence! And I say go for it, way too many men out there with NO BALLS WHO MIGHT AS WELL BE WEARING A SKIRT SO WHY SHOULDNT THEY GET SURGERY SO THE OUTSIDE WILL MATCH THE INSIDE!!!! MOST MEN SUCK & HAVE NO MASCULINITY THAT IS WHY THETE ARE SO MANY DRESSED AS WOMEN!!!! WHO HAD TO BE THE MAN (AND WOMAN) IN THAT RELATIONSHIP? ELAINE. BECAUSE MARK WAS TOO BUSY DRESSING AS A WOMAN AND WEARING A DIAPER. THIS IS WHY SO MANY WOMEN TURN INTO LESBIANS. MEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STRONGER? REALLY? IM SURE SOME ARE BUT THAT AINT BEEN MY EXPERIENCE I DONT KNOW IF ITS BAD LUCK OR WHAT BUT I AINT BEEN WITH A GUY WHO IS STRONGER THAN ME EVEN ONE THAT I SUSPECT LOVED ME HE WAS A MUMMY AND DADDYS BOY ABD LET THEM PICK OUT HIS WIFE BUT STILL MISSES ME. REALLY?! TOO FRIGGIN BAD KARMA IS A BITCH HE IS STUCK WITH WHAT HES GOT CAUSE HE HAD HIS CHANCE SO MAJE THE BEST OF IT BUDDY!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

You must be the one that gets on here and screams: Be a man!

is that timeshare/meds thing not working out for some reason or has there been a lull n serial killer getting bidness?

habundia said...

http://m.fox19.com/fox19/db_330522/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=1e8WoNoT

I read this and then think back to the interview which someone posted a link of earlier....and do have to ask....what kind of personality (disorder) does he have?
The act he offered during that interview....there were little tiny moments where i saw angre look or annoying, but overal he made it look like he was an awesome father.

He reminded me to my ex who also can put up the most amazing act of innocence and greatness....but behind close doors he's nothing like that at all.

Anonymous said...

Habundia,

Yep Mark seems almost lovable in the interview where he begins w laughing (that part is disturbing). He seems gentle, trustworthy, If I did not know what he had done, I would feel safe with him. One warning sign though is his "hypnotic" voice. One of my exes had a voice like that and it lulls you into a state where your guard is down, you feel safe, nurtured & this guy is like a big teddy bear. HABUNDIA MARK IS A PSYCHOPATH. Watch the Ted Bundy clip I put up. If I didnt know what Ted had done, I would feel safe with him, he seems gentle, intelligent, introspective, benign.
This is why psychopaths are so dangerous but the "hypnotic" voice or the "too good to be true" act is one ALARM BELL. Look at how Redwine laughs with the loving glint in his eye...he disarms you right away. BEware of that warning sign.
Mark seems to be a narcissist as one wonders how could Mark lie and think he will be believed and get away with all this? Yet he DID het away with it for 5 years and almost got away w it totally. Also if he is a narcissist what kind would he be? Somatic? That seems very hard to believe since maintaining his appearance seems last on his list. Cerebral? Thats a real stretch too.
My guess is Mark suffers from a masochistic personality disorder...maybe BPD? Also Mark has psychosexual disorders.

Horse Chestnut said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4737058/Mum-finds-child-heatstroke-despite-not-sun.html

Peter,

I thought it was odd that she did not blame herself and prepped this tale by explaining the child put herself to bed. However, there are words missing. She does not actually say the child put herself down for a nap if you read closely. I am wondering if the child was left in the car anx this was staged, or mother has info she is not sharing.

Anonymous said...

WOW! Trump's speech to the Boy Scouts was BEAUTIFUL! He is the most amazing president EVER! I cant wait for my son to get home from Boy Scout camp to watch it. Our President CARES about the Boy Scouts. So AWESOME he gave them the CREDIT they deserve. They are great kids who help the community so much abd they learn to be PROUD of the skills they LEARN. Boy Scouts has been AWESOME for my son in fact he became his troop leader. HE IS ALMOST AN EAGLE SCOUT AND HE IS AN AWESOMD KID!!!! SO AWESOME TRUMP GAVE SUCH AN INSPIRING SPEECH!!! So HORRIBLE LIBTARDS ARE SAYING IT WAS "DARK AND INAPPROPRIATE"!?!?!?! Trumps speech will mean A LOT to my son when he hears IT!!!!!!

John mcgowan said...

OT:

Missing teen may be heading for Hollister

A 16-year-old girl from Ozark County disappeared from her home Thursday and her family believes she may be coming to the Hollister area.
Savannah Frances-Lee Leckie, of Longrun, is 5 feet, 3 inches tall, weighs about 110 pounds, has long brown hair and hasn’t been seen since July 19.
Her mother, Rebecca Ruud, spoke with Branson Tri-Lakes News Friday afternoon and said her daughter has high-functioning autism.

This is a child that if she wants something, she will get it,” Ruud said. “We’re just trying to figure out where she’s set her mind to."
On Tuesday, Ruud said she and her family were doing a brush fire on their farm when the fire got “out of hand” and Ruud was burned.
“I got massive second-degree burns from my wrist to my shoulder,” Ruud said. “She freaked out and I think that’s why she ran. She feels guilty.
Searchers believe Savannah was on foot, Ruud said.
She never did learn how to drive,” Ruud said.

Although their home is nearly two hours away, Ruud said she believes Savannah may be trying to reach Hollister because that’s where her biological father’s family is from. Another possibility is Savannah may try to go to her friends and family in Minnesota.
According to family friend Heather Tankersley, Savannah left home between the hours of 11 p.m. Wednesday night and 8 a.m. Thursday morning. Savannah took a teal and pink computer bag full of coloring books, a pillow and a blanket with her.

“Kids do not disappear without a trace,” Ruud said. “We’ve had no contact since I saw her Wednsesday.”

If you have information regarding Savannah, please call the Ozark County Sheriff’s Office at 417-679-4633 or dial 9-1-1.
The Branson Tri-Lakes News will provide updates as they become available.

http://m.bransontrilakesnews.com/mobile/news_free/article_e2f2b3ee-6e49-11e7-bb2d-2788f0b23dfa.html

MISSING! Autistic girl vanishes; family desperate for answers

A missing Missouri girl who may be headed to Minnesota has not been seen nor heard from since July 19; she’s considered endangered missing.

Savannah Frances-Lee Leckie, 16, of Longrun, Missouri, was last seen around 11 p.m. on Wednesday, July 19. Her mother, Rebecca Ruud, posted on Facebook that they had gotten into an argument because Savannah was “skipping homework again.”

When Ruud woke up the next morning around 8 a.m., Savannah was gone.

She took a blanket, pillow, clothing and other personal items with her, leading authorities to believe she left in a vehicle rather than on foot.

“She took her favorite pillow and blanket, and bag of coloring stuff… “ Ruud said.

When Savannah is upset she “clings to her favorite things.”

Leckie, diagnosed with high-functioning autism, is home-schooled and does not have any friends or family in the immediate area, reported the Ozark County Times. She has family in Minnesota, and authorities believe she may be seeking relatives of her late father there.

Savannah also goes by the nicknames “Mouse” or “Andy” and is Caucasian, 5-feet-2 inches tall, and weighs about 115 pounds. She has long brown hair, blue eyes, and was last seen wearing a t-shirt and jeans.

Due to her diagnosed autism, she may approach strangers without understanding possible dangers. However, it’s not apparent that she’s autistic, Ozark County Sheriff Darrin Read told the Ozark County Times.

If you see Savannah or have information in this case, please call 911 or the Ozark County Sheriff’s Office at (417)

http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/07/27/missing-autistic-girl-vanishes-family-desperate-for-answers/

Annah said...

Habundia, that's what I thought too. On mom's FB page comments -Rebecca Ruud- she has complained about her own exhaustion, she released two different missing flyers with different dates and different eye color listed for Savannah. It seems to me if my kid were missing I would know if it was tuesday or wednesday. I don't think Id be complaining about my own fatigue. She also stated Savannah had no friends yet LE thinks she got a ride ?

Annah said...

Thank you for drawing attention to Savannah !
Mom's FB:
https://m.facebook.com/theodosiafiretraining/#~!/rebecca.ruud.9?fref=pb

Two different flyers. Two different dates. Two different physical descriptions.

Anonymous said...

FYI: Closure is a concept sold in the media and by attorneys desperate to convince the victims to accept a plea deal. It does not matter if he lives or receives the death penalty, there will not be closure for Elaine. Talk to any victim of an offense of this nature and they will agree. The hope of closure is like a carrot dangled out in front of victims and then the magic day comes where the sentence sentencing happens and at some level there is hope that with the verdict will come some magic moment where suddenly I will feel some kind of relief or closure and no, it doesn't happen. My trauma will still be there unless I learn how to move forward. I wish people would quit singling that word around though, especially if it isn't something they have personally experienced. (for the record, I should not speak toward this either as my trauma wasn't anywhere close to Elaine's. I was raped. My children that lived to be born are all still living. I can't even fathom her trauma. However,in the online victim support /empowerment group, closure is a dirty word. The moms that have lost children to murder will tell our that it the only relief they receive is knowing the person is behind bars. Many of them actually believe the death penalty is harder because of the exhaustive appeals process, ongoing media hype, etc... because it becomes more about the pero than their child.

Habundia said...

Thank you anonymous for you reply. I am not sure what is meant with 'hypnotic voice'
Without all the facts you certainly would think he's a loving person, who cared about his son. I was thinking about narcisstic caracter, although he does make it seem hes all into the needs of the other (his son).
Like him saying his son wanted to sleep over with a friend and he was 'totally okay' with it, while others say he absolutely didnt want him to go sleep over with his friend. (as if he doesnt understand that these things can be checked or does he really think nobody would bother to check?)
Absolutely these kind of people are a danger. You just don't know what they are capable of.
As you say it, this would mean this man has many different personality disorders (psychopathic, masochistic, narcissitic, BPD, psychosexual)
How can somone have so many disorders and still seem like 'normal'..........that's really scary to think of this could be with many more people in this world.

@my fans...........thanks for your intelligent responses! It learned me a lot LMAO

@horse Chestnut.......She starts her saying with 'THIS was my evening'
What child takes a NAP in the EVENING? Naps are taken in the afternoon. In evening children go to bed.......they don't nap at night (evening)
If she had a heatstroke, how can she then be 'waken'? 'it took us 20 minutes to wake her up'
You dont 'wake up' people from a heatstroke, you get them back to consious state maybe, but people dont 'sleep' when they have a heatstroke.

@John Mcgowan: 'She took a blanket, pillow, clothing and other personal items with her, leading authorities to believe she left in a vehicle rather than on foot.'
So why do authorities think she left in a vehicle if mom tells us: '“She never did learn how to drive,” Ruud said."
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7164794708270892518&postID=5068011985053362937

Anonymous said...

@ Habundia,

You wrote:

As you say it, this would mean this man has many different personality disorders (psychopathic, masochistic, narcissitic, BPD, psychosexual)
How can somone have so many disorders and still seem like 'normal'..........that's really scary to think of this could be with many more people in this world

That is the million dollar question...How can someone with so many disorders seem
"normal"? Ask my ex. I believe he is a psychopath. Even his own MOTHER told me the stuff he had done to me combined with his LACK OF CONSCIENCE means there is something VERY wrong with him. His step-mother, yesrs earlier said to me "He's a Jekyl and Hyde. He can be the nicest guy in the world & then out of nowhere he will turn into a psycho. She said "There is something WRONG with him." He has been a COMPLETE PSYCHO to me for the 2 years I have been separated from him! He abandoned our son & acts like he doesnt exist. Recently, however, he switched back into "nice" mode, and when he does this this is the feeling you get: "This guy is the nicest guy in the world who cares deeply about me & wants to help me in any way he can. He would never do anything to hurt me. He is gentle & caring. How can I resist this wonderful man?" The reality is: He is a violent psychopath who wants to reel me back in so he can use me as an emotional punching bag.
Could those 2 things be ANY different? The facade & the reality? It doesnt work anymore on me, but his "nice guy" act is flawless. He put me thru such living hell I will never go back to him. Also the physical part of the relationship was just not good enough. For yrs I would immediately feel once it was over, I just want to get away from him, I did not want to cuddle etc NOT EVEN FOR AN INSTANT. He did not love me. Ive felt what love is like and what he offered didnt come close. I will never go back to him, I would rather be alone (which I do have attractive guy msging me almost daily but I dunno I just cant bring myself right now to just have that mechanical intimacy that leaves me feeling so empty. I dealt with that for 2 decades almost. And of course my head is messed up from talking to the other guy also--It seemed like the real deal way back when cause I dont know how you can fake that sh&t. Its very painful I just pray he is well thats all I can do. But no I will NEVER GO BACK to my psychopath ex!!!

Anonymous said...

It seems like there may be many things you don't understand.
TMI.

Anonymous said...

SHUT UP YOU HOG!!!!

Anonymous said...

(cont)

So he is just standing there & I said "Arent you going to sit down?" And he says "No. Just tell me what you want and I'll go up (to the counter) and get it." So he goes up there, and he's talking to the people behind the counter while they are making the food who we both knew well & after like 5 or 10 min. & I walked up there next to him to talk to them & he says "I thought you were going to sit over there." And I said "I wanted to come over here & talk". And he had never acted that way!!! And I just thought maybe he's seeing some girl and even though me & him are just friends maybe he's afraid the girl will see him with me but Im also thinking why would that be an issue since's moving in 2 weeks. And I just shrugged it off.
Fast forward: We went back to his condo (he had 2 roommates--his friend & his friend's girlfriend & his friend was out of state for some reason), and his mood remained glum & it was making me sad & confused & I had a few more screwdrivers on the strong side. About a 1/2 hr after we had gotten back, his roomate's girlfriend came in with 3 of her friends & they were in a happy giddy mood and it kinda cheered me up & I was giving him a hug and Im like come on cheer up but he was just very sad. So then his roomates girlfriend asks "him" if he will drive her and her 3 friends who were there too to a dance club and drop them off bc they want to drink and party and another friend is meeting them there later who is not drinking & will drive them home. So he did not want to do it but she kept begging him "Come on! Its my last weekend before I move...I wanna party with my friends! C'mon drive us there!" And Im
like "Go drive them!" So he reluctantly agrees. Meanwhile, yes I was drunk. (cont)

Anonymous said...

This is the last part: When he went to drive the girls, the girls were all excited to go out & they ran out of the apartment & ran down the stairs & outside. I was sitting on the couch with my back to the door & I turn around and he is lingering inside by the door and Im like "Arent ypu gonna go they are waiting for you?" And he says to me "Listen to me. Do not get in your car and drive anywhere. Stay here until I get back." I said "Im not driving anywhere, Im just gonna stay here & wait for you." And he says "Do not go out & sit in your car. Do not go out & get anything out of your car." And I was like "Why would I do that?" And he's like "Dont do it. Jist stay here." And I thought to myself 'he is just concerned that he doesnt want me to drive drunk even though I wouldnt". Then he says "If someone buzzes to be let in the building, do not buzz them in." I said "Dont worry, I dont even know how to buzz anyone in" and he's like "Good. Dont do it." (There was like only his apt and one other that could buzz in that entrance). I turned around and started drinking my drink & thinking wow I never knew he was so uptight about home security but he is a very uptight person so I guess no surprise). Then he says "Turn around and look at me while Im talking to you" and Im like "Whaaat?" And he goes "I am locking this door. (and he said something about the locks on his door--there was more than one and I was just tuning it out). He's like "Do you see what Im doing? I am lockong this door, I am locking this lock, this lock this lock and noone can get in this door. Do not unlock this door. Do not touch the locks or move them." And Im like "Oh my God I wont youre being so obnoxious". And I turned around and start drinking again and he goes "Turn around and listen to me" And Im like "Whaat?" And ho goes "Noone should be able to get in the building but if someone did and comes to this door do not unlock this door. Do not open this door no matter what they say, OK?" And Im like "OK I wont." And then he left and Im thinking OK he must be seeing some girl and doesnt want her to stop by and see me. And I was pretty wasted and was like "Whatever." And Im thinking maybe he is just very uptight about home security.
But, Im looking back & I see that it was something a lot worse than that. I dont understand did someone threaten him cause of me? He was scared of something, of someone & I dont understand cause his family had moved several states over so I dont get who it could have been or why? Like why was he actung like that? And I got so mad at him bc I was so confused by his sadness & weirdness & wtf I dont get it.

Anonymous said...

Like is it bc of Islam? I mean, we never even talked about religion it didnt occur to me actually it did for a split second like I thought could this be something to do with maybe he's not supposed to be with me & then I just thought thats ridiculoud his family lives a few states over so that doesnt make any sense for an explanation.

Annah said...

Peter, John, please look at this text on the new website set up by her mother, Rebecca Ruud.
"Savannah Frances-Lee Leckie is a 16-year-old girl with high functioning autism​ from Theodosia, Missouri​ in Ozark County, Missouri​. On July 20, 2017 she went missing after leaving home.

Personal Life:
Savannah Leckie is home-schooled and does not have any friends or family in the immediate area other than her parents. Savannah has high functioning autism​. Her mother is Rebecca Ruud.

Description:

Savannah is a 16-year-old White / Caucasian female​. She is​ 5-foot 2-inches tall, weighs approximately 115 to 120 pounds and has long brown hair. Leckie also goes by the nicknames Mouse and Andy. She was last seen in a t-shirt and jeans, and may have a computer bag with coloring books, a pillow and a blanket [4]​ Savannah's hair is usually unkept and her complexion is described as a fair to that of a "farmer's tan."

Disappearance:

On July 20, 2017 Savannah went missing and may be headed to Minnesota where she has friends and family or to Hollister, Missouri​ where her biological father lives. Leckie's mother Rebecca Ruud said her daughter was home when she went to sleep around 11 p.m. Wednesday, July 19, but when she awoke at 8 a.m. Thursday, July 20, the girl was gone. Ruud and a neighbor searched the family's farm and property off County Road 905 but could not find the girl. Ruud contacted authorities around 10 a.m., and dozens of people responded to the scene.

Ozark County Sheriff Darrin Reed reported that Savannah was entered into the National Crime Information Center​'s Missing Person database on Thursday July 20, 2017.

Reed said the search crew included several officers from both the Ozark County Sheriff's Department and Missouri State Highway Patrol​, along with volunteers from Pontiac, Missouri​, Theodosia, Missouri​, Caney Mountain and Lick Creek VFDs. The group dispersed in a variety of methods including on foot, on all-terrain vehicles​ and Sport Utility Vehicles​ and by patrol car​ on the area's roadways. Reed said an Ozark County reserve deputy flew his private plane​ over the area all afternoon, and the Baxter County Sheriff's Office aided in the search with their helicopter until dark Thursday evening.

Leckie took a large number of items with her when she left, Reed said, including her favorite blanket and pillow from her room, clothing and other personal items. Reed said he doubts she would be able to carry all of the items while on foot; therefore his office believes Leckie may have had a vehicle waiting for her when she left in the middle of the night. Reed said Leckie has family and friends in Minnesota​, and authorities in that state are also looking for the girl. Ruud said her daughter may also be seeking out relatives of her deceased father, Donald Pluff Jr., in the Hollister, Missouri​ area. "
http://www.findsavannah.com/
Mom FB
https://m.facebook.com/friends/center/search/?fb_ref=welcome_search&refid=7&q=rebecca%20ruud&submit=Search#~!/rebecca.ruud.9?fref=fc_search
The mother's comments about her own fatigue leading her to neglect notifying family members in MO and MN concern me. A lot about this concerns me. Mom said they had a brush fire tuesday and mom was burned which she believes Savannah felt guilty for and that is why she ran. But reports say Savannah missing wed night.

Anonymous said...

Regarding my post above, that involves possible Islamic shit, was he just being paranoid or did he have legitimate reason to believe that someone was potentially coming after him and/or me? Why that night was he so worried about me going out anywhere? It's like he basically barricaded us in that apartment & I am also remembering that when he told me to come to him and said I will meet you outside, he said he would meet me outside because his doorbell was broken (the buzzer that would allow people to be let up and I remember now also that he told me a few weeks before then that he had disconnected his doorbell when I asked why it didn't ring and it sounded like he had disconnected both of them so that neither apartment could buzz anyone in to that section of the building that could go to his apt. but he did not tell me why and just made it sound like it was no big deal like he had been trying to fix it and just made a mistake or something) and when he was waiting there outside and comes up to my car, he was like "did you lock your car?" and I'm like "yeah but there's nothing in there to steal" cause my car was a piece of crap and I was like "where is your car?" cause I noticed it wasn't right there in its normal space and he said "Oh I just parked it around the corner (of big building) and I thought that was odd but he was calm, he did not show he was scared. Except when we were in my car at the red light, he started shaking and like lowering down and like trying to hide it but I saw it. His mood was just very GRIM. Very sad and he wasn't himself. I had never seen him like that and he could not snap out of it...his mood was grim and sad. Oh and I also remember he told me not to go out on the balcony that night. Like it was many years ago but I just want to know why was he scared? Who was he scared of? WAs he just being paranoid? I started yelling at him at like 3 in the morning, and he would not tell me what was wrong and why he was so sad and weird, and then he moved like he was going to 2 weeks later. I just don't get it. It just hurts in my heart still because I just don't' understand.

habundia said...

@anonymous, I lived with such a personality too, for 5 years, so I am aware of these types, but what I was saying was about how much other personality disorders he has. He was not only described as psychopathic but with many more disorders, I just wondered what causes someone getting so much disorders. Sure the weed is in genes, but there has to be things happened for these seeds to blossom into a messed up person, like this man is.
I've stopped a long time ago to try to understand, these people can't be understood. They are what they are and nothing will change that, I've accepted that. Still the mind/brain fascinates me, it's a very intriguing mechanism to me.

habundia said...

"Savannah went missing and may be headed to Minnesota where she has friends and family or to Hollister, Missouri​ where her biological father lives"
"Ruud said her daughter may also be seeking out relatives of her deceased father, Donald Pluff Jr., in the Hollister, Missouri​ area. "

So is her father alive or deseaced? She does send out mixed messages as it seems.

Not right on date of missing, different eye color on different flyers.

Anonymous said...

@habundia, you asked what causes someone to develop a bunch of personality disorders and other disorders. Primarily, it's caused by parenting, very abusive and or neglectful parenting (these things usually go together). And also yes there is the influence of individual personality, resources (for example, I had better social skills than my sister, although again, THAT in itself may have been a factor of the particular abuse she suffered, but still my disposition was such that again I may have also suffered that abuse if I didn't have lots of energy to essentially "escape" the house and make lots of friends etc. So nature or nurture? Mostly, it's nurture. If a child receives love they are not going to turn into a raving psychopath. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
My ex is a moron. Cunning and cold. His facade is quite different. Why does he think because he helped me out ONE time by bringing me $30 worth of groceries and taking out the trash that he has the right to look at me lasciviously after the living hell he's put me through? Because that's how his mind works...he thinks because he threw some chump change my way and strained his muscles taking out the trash that he can look at me that way, oblivious to the fact of how repulsive I find him due to his evil personality? Of course, because he's a user. He was raised to be a USER. We become what we are TAUGHT. And the entitlement factor with these types of clowns is through the roof. They think they can treat you like utter garbage and you will then pay homage to them because they do ONE DECENT THING. BULLSHIT. bullshit. bullshit. He was raised to be a Neanderthal.

Peter Hyatt said...

Personality Disorders are (the basic ones) essential study for this work.

The parents are often relieved of all responsibility via diagnosis.

Peter

Annah said...

Look at this update from Friday
https://m.facebook.com/public/Rebecca-Ruud#!/ozarkcountytimes/photos/a.10151814488224381.1073741837.172460359380/10156088990554381/?type=3&source=48

I am thanking God that the Sherrif and MSHP are on track. Poor Savannah :,(

Annah said...

OT re: Savannah Leckie
Police doing a second search today and KY3 out of Springfield, MO setting up for a news conference.

Anonymous said...

Do the DNA

Delphi

Anonymous said...

ISP
Do the DNA

Anonymous said...

DO THE DNA

Anonymous said...

COVER UP ?
MR. OBVIOUS

DNA

FBI, ISP, and Delphi Police

Chicken

According to God, justice will eventually be served by him to all you crybaby heroes !