Monday, October 16, 2017

Hillary Clinton's Statement on Falling

she powered through it...

Hillary Clinton canceled a series of speaking engagements without giving a reason.  She finally did,  she made a statement about it.  

During the 2016 Presidential election, questions were raised about her health, with speculation that she suffered from Parkinson's and often needed assistance to stand or get in and out of vehicles.  This speculation was fueled when Wikileaks emails came out as well as statements about Parkinson related medicines, spells, and so on.  

Question:  Does she reliably report that she fell?

“I was running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee in hand, I was talking over my shoulder and my heel caught and I fell backwards.”

Here is is again:


“I was running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee in hand, I was talking over my shoulder and my heel caught and I fell backwards.”


What is expected is, "I fell on the stairs."  It may be that one feels the need to explain how (or why) one fell, given her history and the video tapes that showed her falling or needing assistance.  Given this sensitive background, the need to explain why should be considered.  This wold allow for one explanation as to why she fell, even though a fall would not likely warrant any.  


What do we have with this statement?


"I fell backwards."


By itself, this would suffice and would be reliable on its sentence structure. 

She first, however, introduces the reason (s) she fell backwards.  This is very sensitive information to her.  No one would feel the need for more explanation when one says, "I fell on the stairs" or something common.  It is the expectation of being challenged in where we see sensitivity.  Here, however, she does not give a reason why she fell:


she gives five

1.  Running--not walking, nor descending, but "running" and this down the stairs.  This is difficult to picture


2.  in heels

3.  with cup of coffee

4.  talking over shoulder

5.  Heel caught



“I was running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee in hand, I was talking over my shoulder and my heel caught and I fell backwards.”


This is to give 5 reasons that she fell, rather than one, or instead of, 


"I fell on the stairs."


The need to explain anticipates being challenged.  What she did not consider is that simply stating that she fell or tripped on stairs would not likely trigger questions as to why she fell.


Once makes it sensitive to her, showing a need to explain why. 


But to need to blame 5 separate elements?


Analysis Conclusion:  

Hillary Clinton is not truthful about what happened.  

76 comments:

Laura said...

Interesting article!
Her statement jumped out at me as sensitive, but it had not registered with me that she actually gave FIVE reasons WHY she fell.
Her statement made me visually picture a scenario where he body was forced into moving in an awkward and unnatural way, perhaps due to a struggle. However, her statement is quite different than a more typical DV statement like "I got this bruise when I accidentally walked into a wall." I find the introduction of "stairs" interesting.
Im thinking that the breaking of her toe must have required someone kicking or stepping on her toe or something being dropped onto her toe or her abruptly slamming her toe into, for example, a wall.
The FIVE excuses make me feel like she is trying extra hard to cover up what happened.
Car running over her toe? Bill pushing her up against wall and attempting ti strangle her and in the process stepping on or impacting her toe with his foot? Or, someone forcing her down on the floor and her toe bending backwards under the attacker's body weight?

Anonymous said...

I can think of a reason why she'd feel a need to explain. There was a time when women said they "fell down the stairs" to explain a bruise when their husbands had hit them.

Larry Simpson said...

She forgot she was doing the hoopla hoop and juggling three weasels. It’s no wonder she fell. Now if she had said her foot got caught in her pantsuit Leo I might have believed her. When was the last time anyone saw her wearing heels?

Bobcat said...

Falling backwards might results in a sore ankle; a bruised calf, leg, or rear; a back, head, or neck injury, but a broken toe? No.

New England Water Blog said...

She misspoke, what she meant to say was that she was drunk and savagely kicking an intern.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

That doesn't explain her falling up the stairs at a Memorial celebration (and needing to be caught by her aides). Nor does it explain her falling (literally) into the open doors of a van (after being literally propped against a post for support while they pulled that up).

I'm not buying any woman running down the stairs,in heels, with a cup of coffee...much less a woman looking backwards while doing so.

Anonymous said...

A tad bit much. I can barely walk across the room with a cup of hot coffee without sloshing it in my bare feet. I cannot run in heels either. I can run down stairs with proper footwear. I would not look backwards as I am not that confident; and stairs aren't heights for me.

I am woman hear me roar?

OT:
http://people.com/crime/florida-man-murders-girlfriend-toddler-sells-her-property/
I have a theory about neck tattoos and mortality rates of those within arms length. YOu can see the anarchy symbol embedded.

tania cadogan said...

It is bad when someone lies automatically over what would be a simple incident if true, for normal people.
"I fell over and broke my toe"
Concise and to the point, it tells us what happened and the result.

Instead we are given 5 reasons as to how/why she broke her toe.
The problem i have is, as Bobcat points out, how do you break a toe falling backwards?

If she fell backwards on the stairs, i would expect a broken coccyx ( which is what i got after falling down 13 stairs on my butt)
Possible a broken had, wrist or arm as she tries to stop herself (i got a broken arm near my elbow when i was trying to stop myself going arse over tit)

Given her age possibly a broken hip or leg.

Broken toes usually result from having something heavy dropped on them, kicking something hard such as a door, stubbing ones toe even.

Why does she feel the need to be deceptive over how she broke a bone?
Is the sensitivity a result of all the talk about her falling over or needing help with steps etc?
Is she being deceptive as if if the truth would put the kibosh on any future plans she had for future office?
She is blaming everyone and everything for her not getting elected, she can't do that if it turns out she has serious mental health issue and would not qualify for president or holder of any high post of office.

Who runs down the stairs?
Was there an emergency?
If not then there was no need to run.

Who runs down stairs in heels?
Was there an emergency?
If not then no need to run.


Who runs with a cup of coffee?
Why run the risk of spilling coffee on one self
She does not tell us if it was hot or iced coffee so scalding may not have been an issue, just stains on her clothing and the stairs.

How do you run down stairs whilst talking over ones shoulder?

Surely if you are talking to someone you walk slowly in order to talk to them and hear their response.
Perhaps there was an emergency and she was told to move fast and whilst she was running she was being advised on the situation.

What did her heel catch on to make her fall backwards?
Surely forward momentum at speed would cause her to fall forwards?

Did she fall down because of something to do with an illness?
Did she lose her temper and lash out at something or someone and broke a bone?

If she is being deceptive, and it sounds like it, why is she fibbing?

Anonymous said...

One possible scenario

running= Bill said "Stop running your mouth."

in hand = Bill's hands around her throat

talking = airway constricted

over my shoulder =neck is directly "over (her) shoulders

heel caught = impact to foot during attempted strangling

Anonymous said...

What I posted at 10:31 is not a joke. You have to realize she is picruring the truth of what happened as she chooses words to create her lie and they are going to refkect the truth in a distorted way.

General P. Malaise said...

I'm surprised she wasn't running down the stairs with scissors !

Anonymous said...

Lol, thats funny!!

I just tried to watch an interview w her about why she didnt win, and I almost started to feel bad for her cause man, she just doesnt give up! Then, I read a comment where someone was flipping out on her regarding "forced lesbian sex using government mind control"! I mean, people freakin hate her!

Lemon said...

Hillary - the gift that keeps on giving.

Lemon said...

Also, Bill Clinton’s childhood friend, Dolly Kyle, tweeted:
“Hillary forgot to mention she was dodging sniper fire while running downstairs in heels carrying a cup of coffee when she fell.”

tania cadogan said...

Tee hee Lemon.

Off topic

Former hostage Joshua Boyle said Monday he and his wife decided to have children even while held captive because they always planned to have a big family and decided, 'Hey, let's make the best of this and at least go home with a larger start on our dream family.'

Boyle, his American wife, Caitlan Coleman, and their three children were rescued Wednesday, five years after the couple was abducted in Afghanistan on a backpacking trip. The children were born in captivity.

'We're sitting as hostages with a lot of time on our hands,' Boyle told The Associated Press in an email Monday. 'We always wanted as many as possible, and we didn't want to waste time. Cait's in her 30s, the clock is ticking.'

Boyle said the kids are now 4, 2 and 'somewhere around 6 months.'

'Honestly we've always planned to have a family of 5, 10, 12 children ... We're Irish, haha,' he wrote.

Coleman was pregnant at the time of their abduction and had the children while she was a hostage.

Boyle said after landing at Toronto's airport that the Taliban-linked Haqqani network killed their infant daughter and raped his wife during the years they were held.

In the email exchange, Boyle did not respond to a question about the fourth child. The Taliban said in a statement on Sunday that it was a miscarriage.

In another interview with the Toronto Star, Boyle revealed that he thought it was a joke when his captors told him Donald Trump had been elected president of the U.S.

'It didn’t enter my mind that he was being serious,' Boyle said.

Boyle has said conditions during the five-year ordeal changed over time as the family was shuffled among at least three prisons. He has described the first as remarkably barbaric, the second as more comfortable and the third as a place of violence in which he and his wife were frequently separated and beaten.

After returning to his parents' home in Smiths Falls, Ontario, Boyle emailed the AP a statement saying they had 'reached the first true 'home' that the children have ever known - after they spent most of Friday asking if each subsequent airport was our new house hopefully.'

He also emailed two photos of his son Najaeshi Jonah Makepeace Boyle and said the boy began 'raiding the first refrigerator of his life.' The picture shows the boy sitting on the floor in a dark corner with food in his hand. The other shows him napping with a blanket covering part of his face and surrounded by stuffed animals.

tania cadogan said...

cont.


Boyle later played with one of his sons in the garden of his parents' home. The boy appeared happy and healthy, digging in the grass as his father showed off the different plants and later spoke on a cellphone.

On a flight from London earlier, Coleman, who is from Stewartstown, Pennsylvania, sat in the business-class cabin wearing a tan head scarf

She nodded wordlessly as she confirmed her identity to an AP reporter on board. Next to her were her two elder children. In the seat beyond that was Boyle, with their youngest in his lap. Boyle gave a separate, handwritten statement to the AP then, expressing disagreement with U.S. foreign policy and saying, 'God has given me and my family unparalleled resilience and determination.'

Boyle, a former call center worker, said in an earlier statement that he had gone to Afghanistan with his pregnant wife to help villagers 'who live deep inside Taliban-controlled Afghanistan where no NGO, no aid worker and no government has ever successfully been able to bring the necessary help.'

Boyle was once briefly married to Zaynab Khadr, the older sister of former Guantanamo Bay detainee Omar Khadr and the daughter of a senior al-Qaida financier who had contacts with Osama bin Laden.

The Canadian-born Omar Khadr was 15 when he was captured by U.S. troops following a firefight and was taken to the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay. Officials had discounted any link between that background and Boyle's capture, with one describing it in 2014 as a 'horrible coincidence.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4985458/Ex-hostage-tells-AP-kids-captivity.html


A lot of people are doubting his story,
I am, i think something is off here.

Anonymous said...


How many people constitute a terror cell? 5, 10, 12?

Anonymous said...

Hey honey, let's make the best of it! I had the captors pour you a bubble bath into our piss bucket & I hope you dont mind if I sing you some Barry White using this guitar I made out of twigs and bubble gum wrappers.
Oh, you're pregnant! Thats OK I had the captors paint our cell half pink & half blue and I have this handy dandy flashlight so I can deliver the baby and I'll just cut the umbilical cord using my teeth like a wolf.
Ya feelin turned on yet hun?

Anonymous said...


Boyle also made this comment:

“My family is obviously psychologically and physically shattered by the betrayals and the criminality of what has happened over the past five years,” Boyle told the Toronto Star.



Only people you are aligned with can betray you.

InMyOpinion said...

Not buying it. Had she fallen the night before, her team would have contacted the interviewers she had scheduled the night before or by 4 or 5 am. Her just not showing up means something else happened. Not sure if it's a physical or mental issue she has but she needs to get out of the spotlight and just retire.

Anonymous said...

Hillary's demon was trying to break free from her, resulting in a struggle.

Anonymous said...


That woman actually runs?

ah come on!

Anonymous said...

Do you need a full boot and crutches for a broken toe?

Anonymous said...

Hey honey, do you like my new leprechaun beard? Feelin frisky yet?
--Josh Boyle

Let'sGetItOn said...

Remember how you said you hated sleeping under newspapers? Here's a burlap bag comforter I made using goat milk glue.
--Josh Boyle

Anonymous said...

@12:09, Hillary dances with the devil.

General P. Malaise said...

uncensored quote just found in an email dump

“I was running down the stairs with scissors in heels with a cup of coffee in my other hand, dodging sniper fire, while texting Huma, I was talking over my shoulder, and my heel caught and I fell backwards thinking about Webster Hubbell and Vince Foster.”

Buckley said...

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/will-hillary-clinton-s-11th-toe-trip-her-up-1.2766667?mode=amp

This might explain it.

Hey Jude said...

I think Hillary said all that because she's in deep denial about her health issues - she can barely walk at times, so as someone already said,it is doubtful she can still wear heels. She was carrying a cup of coffee - as if to say, hey, guys I can still balance a cup whilst running down the stairs in heels - usually, then, otherwise I wouldn't have been doing it - not only that, I also can, normally, look over my shoulder and have a conversation whilst running down strange stairs in heels, and balancing a cup of coffee...

I think her toe broke, whether on the stairs or otherwise, and she is trying to cover up her declining health and frailty - maybe she has osteoporosis - a stub could break a toe. She is in the UK, with a high pressure schedule - perhaps it is all too much, and some of our stairs are too deep - Bill had to cancel his engagement, too, as the weather was too bad to travel to Ireland.

Hey Jude said...

They might as well have stayed at home - him not going to Ireland, and her not showing up for Womens' Hour, just because she broke her toe...IDK.

Anonymous said...

It's hard to land a broom.

Anonymous said...

Especially with a broken toe.

Lars Bak said...

How can one fall backwards when running down - did she run backwards or did she fall back up the stairs?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

I was looking for clear footage that actually shows Clinton walking within the last few months and found this video of her disembarking an airplane (at 4:28-4:39 minutes in http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/18/hillary-clintons-score-settling-dem-rattling-book-tour-only-getting-started.html).

She waives to supporters at the top of the stairs and does not use the handrails, but is fully concentrating on each step going down (looking exclusively at the steps). As she nears the last few remaining steps to the tarmac, you can see her visually concentrating and gauging the step-down from the final step to the tarmac. Nearing the last two stairs, she reaches for the right handrail to steady herself. A she makes the touchdown, you can see her brace herself stiffly and her barely perceptible "wince" as she adjusts with her right hip. Hazarding a guess here, but it looks like she's having hip or knee trouble with that last step.

In the vast majority of videos I've searched, either her movement is limited to just a few steps (5-6) to greet fans or the interview or speech is recorded after she's already in place. I'm wondering if that's a one of the agreed upon terms of her appearance.

rob said...

Why can't this woman just go away. Even her fans want her to. I'm thinking she's just nuts enough to try and run again. and if the Dems let her, they deserve what they get.

Lucia D said...

It is actually a silly statement, and as smart as she is, I'm surprised she didn't realize just how silly it sounds. Shows how out of touch she is. And the degree of confidence she has in her ability to lie, and the degree of contempt she holds for the American public. I agree with others who said her momentum "running" down the stairs would much more likely have resulted in a forward fall. And as a woman who has worn heels will know, when one catches on a step (not hard to do at all) it impedes that leg from moving forward, making your body want to topple forward. Much like walking and having a Parkinson's freeze?

Habundia said...

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/02/dna-in-the-dock-how-flawed-techniques-send-innocent-people-to-prison

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

In 2009, she successfully navigated the flight stairs up to the airplane door, did the classic turn-and-wave-to-the-crowd, went through the plane doorway, and fell immediately after (video mid-page http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/07/hillary-clinton-needs-help-getting-stairs/). It appears her left leg/hip gave out on her.

The pictures (same site listed above) of her Aug. 2016 South Carolina fall (also up the stairs) also suggest her left leg/side is the issue. Note the attention being paid to that leg/foot by the man on the left as she begins to fall and also after she's on the front porch.

The 911 Sept. 16, 2017 video of her waiting on the van and attempting to step toward the van, she goes down on her left side also. Note also the rapid, fluid measures of her team and the Secret Service to "cover" her falling into the van to shield her from public view. This wasn't her first fall by far; they're far too practiced at hiding both her and hustling into the van (particularly her aides).

I cannot envision her running, much less in heels, much less down the stairs anywhere. Given the very public falls she's had, she's surely had falls in private. She's exhibiting focused climbing up and down stairs. I can easily believe she fell up the stairs and stubbed her toe, causing a broken toe/broken metatarsal. But going up or down, she consistently falls forward. I'm wondering if she has peripheral neuropathy in her legs or feet. Peroneal Nerve Palsy cause foot drop or Guillian-Barre (sudden weakness and can be paralyzing- as she seems to be in the Sept. 16, 2017 incident where she's propped woodenly against the post and seems unable to move of her accord).

Anna said...

I agree, something is off. Check out this arrangement of words:
“Responding to the questions, Mr Boyle said: “I’m a harmless hippie and I do not kill even mice. I’ve been vegetarian for 17 years. Anybody who knows me would laugh at the notion that I went with designs on becoming a combatant.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/man-held-hostage-taliban-group-didnt-believe-captors-told-donald/

I believe that’s exactly what he planned to do. And/or the people he planned to help — Taliban.
I also find his need to convince and ready willingness to talk about how “bad” things were to be questionable.

Anna said...

Exactly!

Anonymous said...

She paints a picture of herself as a youthful, agile person who can usually handle running in heels down stairs carrying coffee. Is this because she knows so many people suspect she is the opposite?

Stef said...

Can you analyze the interview of Maura Murray’s father, Fred Murray on the Oxygen series the disappearance of Maura Murray. Episode 3 about 10 minutes in? Please. Someone.

Habundia said...

@stef......do you have a link? Can't seem to find a link to that episode

Peter Hyatt said...

Stef,

did you transcribe it?

Peter

Peregrine said...

There are some really funny comments here today.

Maybe it's coincidental but it strikes me that the toe is the furthest appendage from her head leaving me to wonder if distancing language can enter into statements describing one's physical self?

Anonymous said...

Why does someone who falls a lot even wear high heels?

Random thoughts: Coffee = treatment for hangover (or drugs)? Maybe Parkinson's.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she had a stroke?

Anonymous said...

Re: Stroke

Remember this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-blood-clot-life-threatening-medical-experts/story?id=18101213

Anonymous said...

Here is the link to the Maura Murray episode. I will work on transcribing it.

Anonymous said...

http://www.oxygen.com/the-disappearance-of-maura-murray/season-1/after-the-crash

Anonymous said...

I know about this case--Ive read a lot about It bc I saw an article in newspaper about it in a thing about cold cases. Very intriguing case--I literally couldnt even develop a theory--well, actually one thing I thought of that to me made the most sense, is that someone must have been following her--like maybe not directly behind her, but en route to the same hotel to meet her which they must have planned. Like a secret boyfriend or something that maybe they were going to run awsy together, but when her car crashed, they just left it there and took off together and left the country or living somewhere very rural in the U.S. I admit thought the emoty alcohol bottles in the car make it seem that she was upset about something which doesnt seem to correspond with running away w a secret boyfriend, but I did not think the guy who called the cops about the accident did it--the one that lived nearby. I could not figure that case out!

Peter Hyatt said...

I watched what Parkinson's did to my father. The similarities are evident.

With Hillary, there is a motive to lie, although I don't know if it is a teaching position or a run in 20/20

We are now learning that the FBI has eyewitness testimony about the Uranium sale to Russia facilitated by Hillary in which, while Secretary of State, she facilitated it in exchange for millions of dollars to the Foundation.

Peter

Lucia D said...

HRC is a well known liar. More disturbing to me, is how many must be complicit in her lies and cover ups. If she really suffers from a serious health condition like Parkinson's (and after watching Dr Ted Noel's videos, I believe she does) that means she has physicians, aides, secret service, journalists etc helping to perpetuate her lie of good health. That so many had no problem fraudulently representing her as fit to be the leader of the free world . . .

Lucia D said...

Also, General P. Malaise, aside from your excellent screen name, your comments are hilarious. Thanks for the laughs!

Alex said...

Blogger Larry Simpson said...
She forgot she was doing the hoopla hoop and juggling three weasels. LOL, Three Weasels, Bill, Bernie and Comey.

Alex


Anonymous said...

Peter, I am so sorry about your father--it is so hard watching someone deteriorate due to Parkinson's, it robs them of so much.
My uncle, who was such a lovely person, so smart and friendly and full of life,he lived on a river & visiting him was always so fun, was oroginally diagnosed with Parkinson's, but it turned out he had Lewy Body Dementia which is very similar to Parkinsons but does not respond to Parkinsons meds. He rapidly deteriorated and died within 2 yrs. He became paranoid, thinking people were stealing things from his yard, and was always hallucinating animals (which is one peculiar marker of the disease). I feel the reason he may have gotten this disease is because he had been working in greenhouses since he was a teen & then had his own very successful greenhouse business (the White House in DC had him put their greenhouse in)....but I think its from the fertilizer/pesticides he was exposed to, as they have proven that can cause Parkinsons. Very sad disease. I dont know enough about Hillary to form an opinion, although its clear something is wrong.

General P. Malaise said...

look a squirrel, maybe Hillary needed an excuse with the news of the uranium deal exposed.

Stef said...

Interview with Fred Murray. Conducted my 2 interviewers. Maggie-oxygen network show host and Art-“a former police detective” working with Maggie.
The previous question to Fred was why he never would give an interview to James Renner who wrote a book about the disappearance of Fred’s daughter, Maura Murray. He says he never trusted Renner.


Maggie: that’s understandable now that the book has come out and there have been some pretty horrific allegations in it. And I do need you to answer one of these allegations and this is probably going to be the hardest question that I have to ask you.
Did you sexually assault Maura?

Fred: (chuckles) No. how can you even ask me that, you know?

Maggie: it was alleged in the book.

Fred: between the lines or something like that?

Maggie: mmmhhhmmm

Art: yes

Fred: because I didn’t...I didn’t pour through the book. Is there anything I can do about that?

Maggie: you can answer the question.

Fred: well, it’s...I resent being asked that question. No. Of course not. Of course not. This is my daughter for Christ’s sake. It’s my daughter.
Did he actually put those words in there? I didn’t...I wasn’t aware of that.

Art: there’s no direct reference that he says. He’s making inferences in the book about that that incident possibly could’ve happened.

Fred: how insidious can anything be? You put something out there, and it’s incumbent upon me to disprove it? You can say anything. Can you say anything worse? No.

Art: no.

Fred: is there anything possible worse that you can say? There’s one thing, and then you killed her. That’s about the only thing worse. Is that coming?

Art: no. No.

Fred: ahhh, man. Now. What now?

Art: I know, but we had to ask.

Fred: I resent trying to make a buck by trying to assassinate a guy in the position that I’m in.
What I really resent is that now I have to be on the defensive and deny something.

Art: I think you answered that pretty clearly.

End of interview

Anonymous said...

If you are running down the stairs and your heel catches on something, your foot is going to stop moving but everything else is going to continue moving forward. Unless your feet slip out from under you, like slipping on ice, and fall backwards on your ass, but that's not what she said happened. You'd trip and fall forward (down the stairs), not backward. Literally picture in your mind what she is saying. Running down a flight of stairs, holding coffee (so we're to presume she didn't have a hand on the rail... where was her other hand?), turned to the rear talking to someone. It's ridiculous. Also, she said she had a "cup of coffee in hand" not "cup of coffee in my hand" or "holding a cup of coffee". I have to doubt whether she was even holding a cup of coffee at this point!

I just really wish this lady would go away! I'm no HRC fan by any stretch, but I'm starting to get embarrassed every time I see her or hear her or read about something she said. Its getting painful watching her trying to stay relevant.

Laura said...

@Stef, The Dad doesnt make a reliable denial.

Didnt Maura stay overnight in his hotel room when he visited her at UMASS a frw days before shr disappeared? I thought that was odd.

Then she got a call at work at her job ar UMASS from someone and was very upset after the call. Then, for reasons unknown was travelling to NH I think to town & hotel her family was familiar with, she had told her job she wouldnt be coming in due to a death in the family, then leaves, her car crashes onna rural road, local guy talks to her, goes to his house nearby and calls the cops, the cops get there & she had vanished into thin air and there were empty alcohol bottles in the car. Also it was a frigid winter night with snow on the ground.
Had she been fleeing the father due to him threatening to kill her & he may have been chasing her in his car?
Anyone have a theory about what happened to her?

Stef said...

@laura.
I definitely don’t think the dad was chasing her or had anything to do with her disappearance. There are lots of questionable things about him. I don’t think he was at all trying to kill her. But yes, the rest of those points are pretty accurate.

Anonymous said...

@Stef, Yeah I dont think the Dad killed her. One other possibility is that she wandered into the woods and froze to death?
Some people think the car accident was staged and she got into a car that was following behind her that then circled around and picked her up. That she was a living a double life & wanted to get out of her engagement to her long disrance boyfriend. I tend to think there is something fishy about the accident itself.

Shelley said...

Fred said this about daughter Maura on Montel years ago.

I shared here and Peter commented on it but I can’t find the original post as it was just in comments.



Dad

Yes which is uh what frustrates me so much now because that means that when the police got there she was no more than 200 yards down the street, all they had to do was drive down around the corner, they coulda grabbed her and Maura would be here with me now. But they didn’t do that and she is not here with me now

Shelley said...

The fact she said there was a death in the family has always bothered me. It wasn’t true. Why did she lie and then go missing shorty after.

elf said...

If a woman is walking downstairs and the heel of her shoe gets caught, wouldn't she fall forward or down? What about gravity? Momentum?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

An object in motion stays in motion unless/until it is interrupted/intercepted by an equal or greater opposing force. Running down the stairs= forward momentum + gravity + speed. It would require a pretty sharp, quick, hard jerk to cause her to fall backwards (aside from one going unconscious).

Several years ago, I was home sick and had been on the couch for awhile. The dryer buzzer went off downstairs; I got up and hurried down the stairs to get the clothes. Somewhere about halfway down the staircase, I felt light-headed and passed out, falling backwards and slid down the stairs. So, it is possible to be going down the stair and not fall forward. But then again, I wasn't "running" (and I definitely wasn't in heels).

Having said all that, I would expect a wrist/hand/arm injury. It's the single most common fall injury in every age group as people instinctively throw out their arms and hands to catch or attempt to balance themselves. It's not so much the injury itself, as she could have conceivably stubbed her toe hard enough within a pointed heel shoe in a wrenching injury to break the toe or metatarsal. It's the over abundance of unnecessary details (like the cup of coffee, the direction she was traveling on the steps, why she wasn't looking where she was going, explaining her choice of footwear) that seemed like NTP. People fall down stairs every day- young people, old people, healthy people, sick people, professional athletes, models, all kinds of people- we've all done it. The falling is sensitive and concerning to her personally. Kind of like people who tell you they're fine and don't need help, when you can clearly see they're not and do.

Peter Hyatt said...

intelligent post.

My guess is not only no heels but no coffee and no conversation....

The lack of injury to the rest of the body affirms the bizarre statement she chose. It is a good example of how stupid deception sounds.

It reminded me of "dead squirrels climbed into my car's engine..."

Bette Sweet said...

Am I the only one that sees the obvious?...While Putin was driving the loader, he accidentally ran over her toe and broke it..he was aiming for her mouth.. but it was far too busy, trying to spin every bit that comes out of her lips...Now tell the truth .. You knew that all along...the "Russians" did it....must be hard work trying to stay relevant, with all the evil she's done.

Anonymous said...

I can't help it, every time I saw the posted pic of Hillary with the boot, I think of that song "Monster Mash." Must be because it's so close to Halloween.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Peter, thinking about your comment about Hillary's inclusion of conversation...

The only other time I passed out, I was also sick. The second time it happened I'd come home sick from work and camped on the couch until early evening. I walked in our home office to let my spouse know I wasn't felling much better and was going to bed. As I turned to leave the room, I just dropped like dead weight. Afterwards, I found out that what I actually said what just mumbled jibberish. Washing my face the next morning, I discovered a bruised goose-egg on my forehead. Turns out, I'd also whacked my head on a small filing cabinet on the way down. It was jarring that I injured myself and had zero memory of it. I was in the Dr.'s office first thing that morning.

Any chance Hillary actually did talk over her shoulder or at least thought she did, like my experience? Or is it more statistically improbable due to context (where it is in statement in relation to everything else or it's more likely NTP with so many additional details)?

Anonymous said...

@stef

I would be very interested in Peters opinion, too!
Also the answers of the police officers seemed very strange...and did not seem truthful to me ( i don't think they had sth to do with her disappearance)

There seem to be many red flags...

Lucia D said...

Dr Noel commented on her statement on Vidzette.com too

Jo said...

"Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign. But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus?????"

What do you think about Trumps tweet today. Starts with Sorry and he never takes possession of his campaign.

NOL said...

Interesting that John McCain also has one on his foot, supposedly for a tear in his Achilles heel. I wonder if both of them are concealing ankle bracelets.?? Rumors have been swirling online the past week of arrests and indictments piling up, also of John Podesta being indicted like his brother. The calm before the storm??
Lol.. if so?, It's about freaking time! Lol..

Anonymous said...

I fell down some stairs in my back yard a few years ago, and got badly bruised and a black eye and broken nose. I felt like an idiot. I was alone, carrying a cake I intended to set on an outside table to cool. If you had heard me tell the story back then, I suspect your analysis, Peter, would have led you to believe I was being deceptive. I wasn't. I was humiliated by my own clumsiness, and also afraid people would think someone had abused me. Perhaps this reading of Hilary Clinton's statement is hasty.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
I fell down some stairs in my back yard a few years ago, and got badly bruised and a black eye and broken nose. I felt like an idiot. I was alone, carrying a cake I intended to set on an outside table to cool. If you had heard me tell the story back then, I suspect your analysis, Peter, would have led you to believe I was being deceptive. I wasn't. I was humiliated by my own clumsiness, and also afraid people would think someone had abused me. Perhaps this reading of Hilary Clinton's statement is hasty.
November 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM


Why would you Bother to even read here holding to this position?

Why the need to use my name, in the middle here?

When you can discount analysis because of what happened to you, we call this the "But, I" principle. This is where one's view overrules all else. It is self-centered rather than principle centered.

It doesn't go well with training, nor would it be good for a jury, a judge, arbitrator, or anywhere that even and fair views or opinions is needed.



Peter