Missing
15-month-old Evelyn Mae Boswell is missing, last seen December 26th, but not reported missing until Feb. 18.
"The child's mother, Megan "Maggie" Boswell, has been involved in the investigation along with the father, Ethan Perry, who is active duty in the military, stationed in Louisiana," the sheriff's office said.
On Sept. 6, Megan Boswell wrote a post on social media, more than 3 months before the child was last seen.
"I'm not the best mom in the world, but I try so hard for this little beauty. You can say whatever you want about me being a young mom, but I promise you my life is so much better with this angel. My life wasn't ruined when I had her, she gave me a purpose and a reason to wake up every day and to better myself. There's no love like the love from your child!"
Ethan Perry posted on his Facebook.
"I'm currently working with authorities trying to find Evelyn. I can't say much more than that at the moment. If anybody knows anything please message me."
Here is the mother's post again, with emphasis added over some concerns that warrant exploration:
"I'm not the best mom in the world, but I try so hard for this little beauty. You can say whatever you want about me being a young mom, but I promise you my life is so much better with this angel. My life wasn't ruined when I had her, she gave me a purpose and a reason to wake up every day and to better myself. There's no love like the love from your child!"
We do not have the complete context for the statement.
The subject begins with what is "not" (negative) and she allows criticism of herself ("you can say what you want about me being a young mom...").
She "promises" that her life is better and tells us her life "wasn't" ruined when she had her.
She wrote that the birth gave her reason to wake up and to better herself. This is the language of depression and may be linked to substance abuse.
Calling her an "angel" is, in context, very concerning.
The obvious question: Has Evelyn become an "angel"? needs to be explored regarding what pressure or burden, real or perceived, the mother felt, in caring for the child.
Did the mother think that the child would be better off in heaven? Was this a fleeting thought?
Was this a thought that she entertained?
The use of negatives here (twice) elevates importance.
Not being the "best mom" is a difficult (and concerning) admission. There is a natural sense that no one can be a better mother than me, as if by comparison. This admission of not being the "best mom" is very likely a form of minimization due to the natural resistance and instinct of a mother.
Generally from a mother this should cause investigators to explore Neglect.
Her life "wasn't ruined"--- did she once believe that to be the case? Did others tell her this?
This may indicate a struggle at the time the child was born.
Also, elevated in importance, investigators will explore, via the interview, the possible mental health issues, including depression, sense of isolation, morbid introspection and a feeling of being overwhelmed, within the mother.
In the interview, a specific trigger of stress should be sought, just prior to the last time the child was seen (Christmas), to learn if something pushed the mother or father and/or anyone close to the child.
Mother's post indicates depression and a young mother dealing with responsibility and guilt.
Is it related to the child's disappearance?
To study deception detection, please visit Hyatt Analysis Services.
We do not have the complete context for the statement.
The subject begins with what is "not" (negative) and she allows criticism of herself ("you can say what you want about me being a young mom...").
She "promises" that her life is better and tells us her life "wasn't" ruined when she had her.
She wrote that the birth gave her reason to wake up and to better herself. This is the language of depression and may be linked to substance abuse.
Calling her an "angel" is, in context, very concerning.
The obvious question: Has Evelyn become an "angel"? needs to be explored regarding what pressure or burden, real or perceived, the mother felt, in caring for the child.
Did the mother think that the child would be better off in heaven? Was this a fleeting thought?
Was this a thought that she entertained?
The use of negatives here (twice) elevates importance.
Not being the "best mom" is a difficult (and concerning) admission. There is a natural sense that no one can be a better mother than me, as if by comparison. This admission of not being the "best mom" is very likely a form of minimization due to the natural resistance and instinct of a mother.
Generally from a mother this should cause investigators to explore Neglect.
Her life "wasn't ruined"--- did she once believe that to be the case? Did others tell her this?
This may indicate a struggle at the time the child was born.
Also, elevated in importance, investigators will explore, via the interview, the possible mental health issues, including depression, sense of isolation, morbid introspection and a feeling of being overwhelmed, within the mother.
In the interview, a specific trigger of stress should be sought, just prior to the last time the child was seen (Christmas), to learn if something pushed the mother or father and/or anyone close to the child.
Mother's post indicates depression and a young mother dealing with responsibility and guilt.
Is it related to the child's disappearance?
To study deception detection, please visit Hyatt Analysis Services.
108 comments:
Sounds like what Shelly posted the night before Graham died.
"The baby is a fussy pita and pukes all the time. He needs to get with the program so I can do my tutoring! I love him so much! I adore him!!!" :)
Thank you for posting Peter, very timely.
I became very worried when I read the following from Mom: "I'm not the best mom in the world, but I try so hard for this little beauty."
Very distancing language already, I know it has been two months and now the flag is being raised. I don't have confidence in Mom's language and she sounds at the end of her rope, I worry it is too late for the baby.
My error, Mom made this statement months ago which worries me even more due to her language so long ago.
Further reading her statement, she has a lot of trouble vocally saying she loves her child. Instead she says "There's no love like the love from your child!" This is distancing language and negative and not a good sign IMO.
Ex-boyfriend of missing girl’s mother says he never saw the child.
Blountville man said he dated the mother of a missing child for a few weeks and never saw the child.
Hunter Wood, owner of Hunter T’s Chicken Shack in Blountville, said he dated Megan “Maggie” Boswell for a few weeks in December. Boswell is the mother of 1-year-old Evelyn Boswell, who the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said was last seen around December 26.
Wood said he never saw Evelyn in the weeks he dated Boswell.
“All I’ve seen is pictures of her, I’ve never even seen the baby,” he said. “I have no relationship with that child whatsoever.”
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He said he met Boswell when she applied for a job at his restaurant. He characterized their relationship as “on and off” and said the relationship never got serious enough for him to notice any red flags.
He said Boswell told him that Evelyn was staying with her father, Ethan Perry, while he was home on military leave for Christmas.
“They have half custody to the best of my knowledge,” Wood said. “It’s not my business to dig further into that because we weren’t that serious for me to dig further.”
He said he saw Maggie Boswell two days ago and hasn’t heard from her since.
Wood said his business has been smeared across social media in the wake of the AMBER Alert on Wednesday that signaled that Evelyn is missing.
“I’m not doing this to, you know, hurt this investigation because all in all the entire matter here of what’s going on and what needs to be resolved is finding that baby,” he said.
He said he believes Boswell’s father alerted police of Evelyn’s disappearance. He added that while he was seeing Boswell, he said she told him that Evelyn broke her arm while staying with her father.
“While Evelyn’s father, Ethan, had the child, the baby, you know, fell off the bed and broke her arm, and he took her to the hospital,” he said. “That’s what I was told.”
TBI issued an AMBER Alert on Wednesday for Evelyn.
Officials with the Sullivan County Sheriff’s Office said their investigation began Tuesday after the Department of Children’s Services alerted them to the missing child.
SCSO continued the search on Thursday.
@john you have much more information than I could find, very helpful. What I have learned so far is everyone's language is worrying related to her, and another family member reported her missing.
Short clip of Ex boyfriend.
It's not known if he is responding to a question.
https://youtu.be/DH3RAAbgpaY
Who calls their baby a PITA? (Pain in the A$$) Who? Also her statement says "...she GAVE me a purpose and a reason..." Past tense reference. Did the child stop giving the mother a purpose?
Ex-boyfriend’s language is alarming
“I had no reason TO DIG INTO IT ANY FURTHER”
Sounds like he disposed of her, at minimum
I had NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHILD WHATSOEVER
RED FLAG
Are police not able ascertain who the baby was last with? Mind-boggling.
But if Evelyn got a broken arm with her father, you would think arrows would point to him as the killer.
lengthier interview with ex boyfriend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFm_fNMV3eQ&feature=youtu.be
"To the best of my knowledge I have never seen Evelyn"
@Joe same, I saw the word "gave" and wondered if the past tense was for a reason.
The statements by Hunter Wood are worrying.
“[All] I’ve [seen] is pictures of her, I’ve never [even] [seen] [the] baby,” he said. “I have [no] relationship with [that] child [whatsoever].”
He shows an extreme need to convince he has never met Evelyn. It could indicate guilty knowledge of what happened to her or it could be due to him feeling he is a suspect.
“I’ve never [even] seen [the] baby,” – The extra word “even” shows he is holding another thought while making this statement. This is his second use of the word “seen” heightening its importance.
“I have [no] relationship with [that] child [whatsoever].” – In the negative he tells us what he hasn’t and then seeks to stretch what doesn’t exist further by using “whatsoever”. What’s interesting is his first sentence, “All I’ve [seen] is pictures of her” as it doesn’t require for the following sentences to be said. If all he has seen is pictures then the listener will automatically understand he could not have met her nor had a relationship with her.
“They have half custody to the best of my knowledge,” Wood said. “It’s not my business to [dig] further into that [because] we weren’t that serious for me to [dig] further.”
The words “dig further” are used twice making them important. Note he uses dig “further” which tells us he has already been digging to some extent. He then uses the highly sensitive word “because” to justify the relationship “we weren’t that serious”, said in the negative making it doubly important.
The use of “dig” is concerning given the context of a missing child and the timeline which places him in a relationship with the mother around the time of the child’s disappearance.
Adrian.
To the best of my knowledge, I've have never seen Evelyn.""
Does that mean he's been around the mother and other children and maybe she didn't claim one of them as hers?
What state was the child in last?
Maybe the mother has lost her mind? Perhaps others wanted her to abort but she pressed on to spite them? Now things have spiraled out of control?
Did the child have a broken arm? While with the father? If so, I'd look at some weird wisk away whodunnit programe.
If I was the family member who reported Evelyn missing I would hire a private detective stat.
Off Topic: Do you guys think Buttigieg could beat Trump?
And do you think Arabic countries would attack us if he became president?
I saw somewhere that she posted on her social media page her face and used Wood's last name though they weren't married. That in itself is frightening considering what may be depression.
Perhaps it's not substance abuse, but societal and/or family abuse for being an unwed mother at such a young age.
She may have invisioned a new start with a new man. This time she'd get it right. Perhaps that is why her boyfriend wasn't introduced to her baby.
So sad. I doubt the outcome will be good. And, if she's mentally ill, the social media world is moreso and will attack.
“While Evelyn’s father, Ethan, had the child, the baby, you know, fell off the bed and broke her arm, and he took her to the hospital,” he said. “That’s what I was told.”
This is a very awkward sentence. The simplest sentence would be “While Evelyn was with her Father she fell off the bed”, but Wood doesn’t put that together. He changes language from “child” to “baby”. According to Woods language, a child is something you have, “Ethan, had the child” whereas a “baby” will fall off the bed.
“the baby [you know], fell off the bed” – He is looking for the interviewers agreement and implies, babies fall off beds don’t they, “you know”. It fits with the “child and baby” language. That fact he feels you should know babies can fall off beds is worrying.
We know only unsupervised/neglected babies could fall from a bed. It must be noted that Woods wants to make this information known to the public which steers attention away from him and onto the father.
“That’s what I was told.” – Passive language which avoids having to say “who” told him.
Adrian.
I am going to stay hopeful for Evelyn. Two months is a very long time, could be a family or friend sensed the lack of care/neglegence and took her themselves. I am going to think this way until I hear otherwise, Evelyn needs love now.
Good thinkin' Shy. Perhaps she is in a home for unloved military children somewhere far away from the drugs and alcohol and non-stop fighting.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-mom-15-month-old-162852559.html
Thank you Peter, so it looks like the authorities are well in step and aren't giving a lot of details. I am very hopeful that this means Evelyn could still be alive, positive energy makes a big difference.
Positive knowing the child may be traveling in a gray 2007 Beamer with front end damage? I don't think so. Plate 3m96w9 or is it backwards?
Perhaps they adopted her out to someone who is a careless driver?
Positive because positive energy is real and matters, my heart feels there is still hope. And yes because the police are tracking a vehicle and not simply focusing on the parents, this also gives me hope.
Sheriff believes Evelyn Boswell is alive, says mother's info is not accurate
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SULLIVAN COUNTY, Tenn. (WCYB) - The Sullivan County Sheriff's Office is releasing more details on missing 15-month-old Evelyn Boswell.
Sullivan County Sheriff Jeff Cassidy says family members haven't seen Boswell for weeks. He says a babysitter last reported seeing Boswell on December 11.
Cassidy said he believes Evelyn is still alive.
Cassidy says the information Maggie Boswell has told them is not accurate. He says some of the things Maggie has said doesn't lead up to the information authorities have checked on.
"Were trying to determine all those facts as to why there was a lapse in time in the child being reported missing," Sullivan County Sheriff's Office PIO Captain Andy Seabolt said.
https://wcyb.com/news/local/evelyn-boswell-press-conference-update
Time lapses in child abduction cases are typically bad, nothing to work backwards from. However it is interesting to me this particular situation seems so seamless, like an arrangement was made versus violence. I'm still hopeful, thanks again John.
An article states that investigators found the babysitter more reliable in describing dates the baby was last seen: Dec 10-11th.
It sounds as if the mother may not be all there. I also noted she had one of those dreaded Illuminati T shirts on in a post featured. Many people are getting those as popular tattoos, too.
The car is the only tangible link, if that's even true.
It sounds like the type of car drug dealers and hoaxers drive, imo. Beamers are like finding a crow on top of your roof..it's a bad omen.
News 10 out of Tennesee has a live interview with the mother. She speaks in the present tense and claims the baby hardly ever cries. She also claims she'll be with her as soon as she can get to her.
She doesn't reflect suicide in her language, it's just something that is sensed.
I wonder if the baby doesn't also have an inherited mental illness.
I doubt the boyfriend/employer is involved in any form. She seems to want to hide some things and move on.
I see Evelyn as a child who is very personable and engaging, for these reasons I believe she may be safe. The pictures show a child who already understands how to connect with others IMO.
Unconfirmed: The grandparents have been arrested and are most likely the owners of the BMW. It is rumored they are a drug dealing family and may have mental health issues as well.
That makes sense after watching the too young mother (pregnant at 15) express herself.
It is unlikely the old hags and witches on the Internet will be kind to her. It's also unlikely the child will have any kind of life without intervention and maybe a name change.
Evelyn’s mother interviewed:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AckQkFJI1kQ
There's an edited version. I just heard one in which she says, "She loves to take baths. That was her favorite thing."
She talks about a shark song and a shark that swims in the bath while she's bathing.
Then she stays in present tense afterwards.
The saddest part comes at the end of the interview in which the young mother brags about how smart the toddler was even at the age of 6 months when she weaned herself from the bottle. She'd leave food packs on the floor for the baby to find and open herself.
Too young to have children; no skills.
Unfortunately, that's most likely is what her own childhood was like.
Watching the video (which is long and good for analysis) Mom is extremely nervous and stressed when the questions are focused on what happened. She seemed much more relaxed at the beginning of the interview.
This convo back and forth about positive energy vs negative energy and how Evelyn must be alive because she has positive energy and knows how to connect with people is bizarre.
I'll watch the video and tell you what I think. God knows I have the dreaded sixth sense.
Just watched the video: Evelyn is gone. The mother did it. Evelyn is deceased. This is another Zanny the Nanny scenario, and I can't even fathom the police are believing her story. My "sixth sense" is telling me the mother disposed of Evelyn's body close to wherever she lives, hidden well enough though she feels confident she won't be found.
I noticed that the mother made a Freudian slip where she said that "Evelyn weaned herself off the sippy cup at 6 mos (and then corrected herself and said "her bottle")...then mentioned leaving food packets on the ground for her to open...babies that age do not have the ability to open food packages. My sense is that Evelyn died from neglect in the form of dehydration and I"m sure she was malnourished as well, but yes, the mother leaked out cause of death in the interview.
Cause of death: dehydration/malnourishment
RIP Evelyn
My guess is that the mother was sexually abused, suffers from depression and possible eating disorder (probably bulimia)....the neglect probably stems mostly from severe depression and mentally disordered thinking and extreme self-focus due to the eating disorder cycle. Probably alcohol use as well.
Very sad--some people should not have children due to extreme unresolved issues that create a kind of fantasy land where lies become truth...denial, etc...the Zanny the Nanny type story that the mother is now telling she will expect to be accepted as truth due to this extreme fantasyland type thinking...she knows it's not true, but still, it is a mental illness.
Update:
(CNN) Two people were arrested and charged in connection with an AMBER alert for 15-month-old Evelyn Boswell, who was last seen two months ago.
William McCloud and Angela Boswell were found traveling in a gray 2007 BMW that Tennessee authorities were on the lookout for earlier Friday. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) said during the day they believed the occupants of the car would have information about the toddler's whereabouts.
The pair, both Tennessee residents were charged with possession of stolen property, the Wilkes County Sheriff's Office in North Carolina said in a news release.
It is unclear if there is any representation for McCloud and Boswell at this time.
Evelyn is still missing.
She was last seen December 26. It's unclear why it took so long for the child to be reported missing, police said.
"We're conducting the investigation and obviously we're talking to as many people as we've come in contact with that knew about the child," Sullivan County Sheriff's Office spokesman Capt. Andy Seabolt told CNN affiliate WCYB earlier this week. "We want to know why the child was not reported missing earlier."
The young child has blonde hair and blue eyes, police said, and was last seen wearing a pink tracksuit, pink shoes and a pink bow.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/22/us/evelyn-boswell-tenneseee-missing-arrests/index.html?fbclid=IwAR31zEcWc1IW84Jzp7gIXkOZLQhK9UvfY2zlBYBuxxvy2rHYB1uidbZZyq0
Little Evelyn's facial features lead me to think she may suffer from the effects of poor prenatal care. If so, she is very susceptible to heart problems and seizures. If she succumbed it would give a reason why we see deception in statements about events and her well-being.
Judging from many of the videos on Youtube, others are equally as disengaged with reality as that young,hopeless mother.Some are using the word "WE" to describe who broke the story. Lol!
Some balk at the boyfriend mentioning his business while being interviewed as if it were a sign of criminal activities. He is a criminal mind you-a convicted litterbug and some type of theft. Perhaps he'd be better off doing that than trying to run a business and whine online about a missing baby.
That process may be found in the lies of the young mother of the missing child.
Though "WE" isn't used, the 'person' that has her has no name. That unnamed person wasn't trusted as she knew that person would disappear when confronted.
At least she did want to better herself by attending college. That should be a point in her favor that others will likely roll over. She tried to get a babysitter-at the cost of $8-$10 hour; likely a financial burden for someone working at a chicken shack.
After the arrest of the grandmother and her man in a stolen BMW, the tattoo on his face of a cross and the T shirt with the all seeing eye on it inside a triangle tells me more than any statement or body language ever could.
This won't end well.
The T shirt was on the mother in a Fake book post somewhere I should add.
another story ripped from the Casey Anthony playbook. I do not think this will end well. RIP baby Evelyn.
It is similar. Even the Sheriff or deputy made mention to "rumors floating out there".
Hafta wonder if he didn't dispose of the body? Lol!
Phrases should be avoided but won't. Therefore more buffoonry will exist.
More black people are commenting on the case perhaps because it's in Tennessee?
The more the white people try to appease others with their #WeAre stance, the more it holds true they aren't.
Any one who claims they aren't predjudice is most likely a liar, imo. Prejudice is a saving force for many in most races across the board. Once a Chinese male said Japanese women/girls are sweet but the men are not to be trusted. They've had a years long hatred of each other that won't go away any time soon.
As John posted they arrested the two who may have had Evelyn, these people are terrifying and I am now losing hope like the rest of us on this thread. Grandpa did the right thing and raised the alarm, at least he loves her.
@Shy
That being all true, it is more important to focus on more than a decade old assualt arrest, father being involved, and criminal litterbug boyfriend.After all, this has all the markings of a Casey Anthony type case in which others can showcase their new electronic spiritual tales from the otherside predictions and other top notch equipment used in solving these cases and finding the bodies.
I find it scary that the baby liked to dance to the puppet shark and the puppet shark was often in the bathtub with water with an oft time negligent mother.
Agreed, my take is the majority of us lost hope when watching the video of Mom. So anxious, distancing and no acceptance of any kind of responsibility it really hurts to watch her.
There is going to be, IMO, a lot more surprises (passive, im on my phone it would take 4 days to type and explain, lol) before we see an arrest(s) and charges. In all my time (many years) following missing children cases. I've never known so many twists and turns. The amount of statements given, and still no outcome.
Finally. When the ex BF disclosed Evelyn had suffered an arm injury in the care of bio dad. Why did he feel the need to tell us this, very early on. He says Evelyn's mum told him. Right, ok. Considering he tells us they weren't really that involved. Why would someone (mum, allegedly) disclose this information not really knowing him.
What happened or what was the conversation about for that information to be talked about let alone revealed.
Who brought it up and why?
Yes so many twists and turns I am not sure what I believe and it will take likely years or more before the "truth" is apparent. I keep getting the impression of severe neglect, which means to me either others noticed and did something to help ASAP, or it was too much and the flag wasn't raised quickly enough to save Evelyn. We will know more over time.
Also, has what the ex BF relayed been substantiated? I just cant fathom why, if she did, she would tell him. How does that conversation begin? He knows more.
From blogger, frommindtomater .The words “dig further” are used twice making them important. Note he uses dig “further” which tells us he has already been digging to some extent.
I agree. He is witholding information, what it is remains to be known.
There is the "digging" references, the broken arm, and the person who was arrested having a very similar name to Mom. Quite the complex series of events.
And furthermore insecurity and narcissism, Mom has three different FB profiles.
My life wasn't ruined when I had her,
Did she say her life wasn't ruined? No. She clarifies:
When I had her.
She believes her life to be ruined and have been ruined.
She doesn't blame the baby for that.
She does however believe not to be a good mother.
It is a strong warning.
This is similar to statements made by mothers who have murdered their own children believing the child would be better off not alive.
The mother is so young, why would anyone feel compelled to "dig" up anything?
I doubt a young man is all that interested in knowing the details and most likely his mother would be the judge of character so he wouldn't have to be.
She's cute, submissive type.....what else would ya want?
He's an entrepreneur. Self-starter. He is going to act diffently than many others would when being falsely accused. I can imagine he and his family is getting threats from the freaks like many others have/do.
As far as insecurity and narcissism...have you seen her mother? It is to be expected! I would bet the mother had to raise herself and depend upon her self to get dressed, fed, off to school, etc.
She seems to live in an alternate reality and unable to deal with the truth.
It is sad.
Sadder yet to know there are people who've worked in child protective services out there depending upon spirits from the dead to gain information into her whereabouts.
Yeah! Can you imagine the type of people in charge of checking in on young children in the modern world of gossip and run?
It is saddening!
You'd think some of these young mothers who gripe and threaten would go into LE, CPS, or become a teacher or something.
Is the Boswell woman who was arrested in the BMW related to the mother of missing Evelyn Boswell?
I think the media draw to these young people are they are both good looking and photogenic. Other than that, it's doubtful anything else will matter.
No mercy for someone pregnant at age 15, less for those raised in what appears to be a drug family.
She posted his last name to her Facebook. I think she wanted a family be it involved with another or one of her own.
It is rumored she was living with the boyfriend's father. It is most likely because he felt sorry for her and displayed mercy--until online rants came his way in the form of attacking his own son.
She likely won't speak as most likley no one ever allowed it. Not once.In her life.
I bet the only relation that that "Angela" Boswell has with Maggie Boswell, considering Angela is a fugitive who was on the run, is that Maggie probably sold her her deceased daughter's identifying info...birth info...social security number etc...would have been easy for Maggie or Angela to do a little "name change" on the birth certificate...
Does Maggie use Evelyn's name even one time in the lengthy interview? Could her failure to use the name indicate that Evelyn's name had been changed to "Angela"?
Mom refers to daughter in her statement months ago as "angel" and Peter called out. Interesting theory about the other woman possibly trying to take the identity.
The mother may still be a juvenile herself if she got pregnant at 15 or 16. The baby is 15 months old. 15 + 9= 24. 24 months is 2 years.
If she is 18, then it's barely.
She seems the type of little girl that wants a baby to have someone to love her.
Hopefully her boyfriend won't suffer from being associated.He said they dated on and off. If she worked there, I'd wonder if it was full time? He is handsome and I'd bet the young women are buying up that greasy chicken right now just to be near him.
Anon at 347.
Your math is ridiculous
Evelyn is adorable, but she does look like she has fetal alcohol syndrome (or fetal alcohol effect). The mother also says she had trouble walking and drags her feet (could be from FAS). There is sensitivity about "reaching milestones" in the video...mother saying Evelyn reached milestones "way ahead of time". Could the mother have known she had FAS or FAE, and felt guilt about it? And wanted to "get rid of her" because Evelyn was a constant source of extreme guilt for the mother, Maggie?
Yeah! I don't do math. so sorry! Lol!
I wonder if Maggie possibly could have given Evelyn to those 2 scumbags, because Evelyn felt guilty about giving her baby Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, and the constant guilt made it too hard for Mom to be around her.
I can imagine the guilt would be overwhelming.
412,
Your math was lower than Kindergarten level..you should probably refrain from doing Math.
I agree Mom is crumbling under the guilt and stress, the police are pressuring her the way they should. I believe in the police with this case.
Let me try to establish my mathematical thesis better:
The baby is 15 months old.
The mother may have been 15 or 16 at the time of pregnancy.
If 15 months plus 9 months equal 24 months, then it is true that 24 months is equal to two years.
If two years is added to 15 years (age of mother at time of pregnancy) then two years plus 15 years equal seventeen years.
The same may hold true by adding and additional year to seventeen bringing the grand total to eighteen.
Of course, they have likely changed math since I first learned it and she could be closer to 45.
Make sense?
"Of course, they have likely changed math since I first learned it and she could be closer to 45."
Brilliant.
"Of course, they have likely changed math since I first learned it and she could be closer to 45." Bwahaha, thank you for this, I needed humor today :)
I viewed some facebook posts of the mothers online posted by a nosey better-than-you mother builder.
I noticed something this mother did that most other mothers are doing: she was more interested in causes.
That may explain her saying she wasn't the best mother in the world. When someone compares themself to the fantasyland interpretation of the mommy competition, it gets more than ugly.
If you don't hate pedophiles, you are one...we'll label you if you don't jump onboard.
I'm a Bitch said the Doctor...complain about every little thing to create awareness.
Quotes and sayings I don't get but everyone else in the area find humorous.
Welcome criminals into the church first...in other words, give up all judgement or else you are the biggest sinner.
Of course the usual political brainwashing stuff seen online that is indicative of particular areas one must embrace to fit in.
Keeping up in the costuming dept for non-holidays like Halloween. Jeesh!
Also, it seems a dear friend of hers was found dead not long before she made the depressing comment about not being the best mom in the world.
She seems to have added a link to healthy living looking for a solution to her delima and also there were some relationship oriented posts that made it clear she wanted on.
I would speculate her own mother always made her feel inferior as well and added nothing to her skillset or ability to tell the truth. She may have learned to hide the truth to escape rage and punishment from what appears to be a drug addicted family.
Wonder how she did in high school? She must have did okay or she wouldn't have been accepted into college maybe.Was intervention in place to help the spiraling disaster that is now unfolding?
Or, were the counselors online threatening people who have lost their children?
The speculation on the grandmother has me intrigued, if anyone has a link for more info on "Grandma" for this case please share!
Just google or go on YOutube. Most is likely gossip, but it does add up to some extent.
Her boyfriend is about a decade younger.
The stolen car was a BMW and not a Honda Civic.
The tats on the boyfriend tell alot more than any thing you could find that is legitimate.
Her description of how she attended to her own child is revealing.
Also, there's a new nephew in the picture.
Maybe that mother does things better?
It's sad for this young woman.
Thanks anon at 6:47 I am limited in my visibility of social media as I do not have a FB account and I use ad blocker (both for security reasons).
Oh my goodness, the grandmother is supposedly the woman they arrested earlier today. If this is true I am even more disturbed. It does indeed explain quite a bit if it is the case.
I dont go on fake book or peruse ad saturated stuff, either. Much is at Youtube, as I stated before. Many of those who want to be not only seen and heard moreso than read are there.
The grandmother and her boyfriend were arrested a couple days ago after the BOLO for BMW went in to effect. It is odd such a public display when they already knew who it belonged to since the mother was the purchaser and knew the exact identity of the car.
As young as the birth mother is, I'd speculate she grew up with this type of crap.
The grandmother is reported to not have a valid drivers liscense and is not supposed to leave the state according to her probation. I don't know what she's on probation for, but rest assured they don't restrict you from leaving the state because of an invalid drivers liscense.
So, yeah. This is a reality show/news dream come true. However, it is a sad saga of what life is really like for many people and does nothing to help other children or promote good mental health.
It is very sad and more so now the pieces are coming together in the puzzle (for myself). The daughter is extremely anxious, sad and stressed and this is likely her natural state from being raised by her own mother, as others have already stated here the impact of her relationship with her mother and the unstable environment leads exactly to what we are witnessing today.
Another website has discussed the impact of living in rural America. Others cannot handle it as they live in an instant world filled with ready made specialty coffee within a stones throw, high speed Internet 24/7 and all the latest news and gossip to sooth the savage soul.
It stands to reason the boyfriend wouldn't "dig" into anything as they've got other things to do that "dig" into peoples lives like they do online. That's how someone gets charged with criminal litterbug. Some people don't have anything else to do.
I hope the baby is found alive. I am doubtful though due to the storytelling to different people. Only bits and pieces are true. And, if it is a rural area, it is unlikely they'd find a body either.
Some may have to come to terms with bad things happen and let it go and hope the mother gets some real help and becomes a person others can look up to.Instead of griping online, why don't some of these 'crime solvers' reach out to other young mothers and check up on them- Not to gossip, bash, or berate but to offer resources to help their journey in motherhood?
The normal length of a pregnancy is 40 weeks. Some babies come early and some come late though.
There are linguistic indicators in the interview with the mother that the mother has buried her dead baby but has since convinced herself the baby is still alive, (she is delusional) and is with someone else like the druggie Grandma.
@anon 11:13
I believe in my mind you are correct; my heart wants you to be wrong, however.
Unless she gave her up to someone that had convinced her they found a better place for her. Perhaps she had to come up with a way to let go.
The good thing is she trusts the police and may at least get away from her family which seems to be a major concern in her young life right now. She doesn't seem malicious and hateful. She seems lost and all alone.
She has likely never known what normal is and it may take some time to convince her there is hope through all of that.
She hasn't confided in her grandmother who seems to be the main parental figure in her life. That's disconcerning.She seems isolated from other friends as well according to Facebook.
Some times kids in those environments don't want others to know what type of home they live in and step back from interacting with others out of fear of being bullied or made fun of. A sampling of how calloused and careless people her age are is easily seen on the Internet and many much older participate as well.
They are raising another generation to do the same but worse.
From the mothers interview:
Reporter: Are you feeling worried, or anything on those lines?
Mother: Yeah
Reporter: Can you tell me about that at all?
Mother: Well, the reason I didn’t report it or anything is because I knew the person who had her, and I didn’t want them to run away with her, and as soon as I thought anything was going on they just kinda vanished.
She justifies her not reporting her daughter missing (“because”) and gives two reasons. The first is –
“I knew the person who [had] her”
She does not say Evelyn was “with” the other person, but instead uses the word “had” which puts the other person in possession of her.
The second reason is –
“and I didn’t want them to run away with her”
This tells us that the mother felt that if she had reported the person they were likely to run away. What could she have reported that would cause someone to run away? This person “had” her daughter, they had possession of her. The mother by use of “had” shows she has no control over her daughter; it is out of her hands.
She finishes saying –
“as soon as I thought anything was going on they just kinda vanished.”
“as soon” speaks to time (immediately at or shortly after the time that). So immediately she thought something was “going on” they “just kinda” vanished. They didn’t simply vanish but “just kinda” vanished. The word “just” tells us there is another thought held and it is likely she is thinking of what occurred (conversations/actions) at that moment. She is thinking of the things happening around the time of the vanishing.
“Kinda” alters the meaning of “vanished”. If something is “kinda hot to touch” it is not hot, but something similar/close to it in the speakers’ perception. It is not “hot” or the speaker would have described it as such. Here we see the Mother saying this person “just kinda vanished” so we know she is thinking another thought about the vanishing which isn’t actually a vanishing or she would have stated so.
Adrian.
It's interesting how the reporter introduces the word "anything" and then the mother uses that same word twice in their first question and answer reply.
It makes things vague about how she's feeling.
If she thought they'd run, then she knows them pretty well and the mother must have some kind of hold over her rather or not she is responsible for the disappearace of the baby.
This young woman has had a 'tough row to hoe' her entire life and that is easily gleaned from merely her mothers photo taken at the jail.
(Please don't think I assisted in burying her in someone's garden. It's just another southern phrase that adds color to conversation when facts are missing)
Reporter: Can you tell me about that at all?
Mother: Well, the reason I didn’t report it or anything is because I knew the person who had her,
Doesn't this person have her anymore? If not, why? Is she some place else.? Is she not in anybody's care anymore?
I don't know if "had" applies other than to state the child wasn't with her.
Some are promoting a Facebook page she had prior to getting pregnant. She was most likely a minor then. They make a deal out of her having 3 Fake book pages. She may have merely forgot the password, got locked out or something else and decided to start a new one rather than wrestle with the process of getting back in. Regardless, she needs to take those pages down.
Hopefully she'll get a lawyer soon, be it public defender or maybe her father will get her one. The Internet needs to butt out.
I wonder if she is still a minor and if so, how that will have an impact on those threatening and harassing online.
The "concerned mommies" are likely rearing the most horrific psychopaths known to mankind during the Internet generation and it's likely going to come at a huge cost to everyone.
#WeAre..........pyschopaths.com
Facebook is dangerous for the psyche, esp for the young who use it for ego boosting.
Good observation Shy. I totally agree. Not only young people, but all ages.
Youtube is picking up steam, too. I noticed some drug addict who calls herself boss bit** is telling what it's like to be high and around a screaming kid. Based on her own drug use, she surmises they sold the child or killed it because it was screwing up their high. Lol! She critiques the reporters and claims she'd go all Nancy Grace on them like they did in the Casey Anthony case.
That demonstrates the memory of these concerned beotchs and their thinking skills. IIRC, the state lost the case against Casey Anthony. I'd go so far as to speculate it was most likely because of media involvement.
Yes substances, distractions of all kinds are stressing us and we are unable to focus on our shared reality. It it ours to make.
I disagree with that statement, Shy. There are forces out there beyond our control at work to alter our reality or perception thereof.
The mom made it clear on her Fake book she had been looking at bettering herself and Healthy Living as well as Mommy stuff. All anyone looks at is that she doesn't know where her baby is right now.
While doing that, their perception of reality is played out online and in the real world. They seek to peddle their reality.
Yes, why I value my own reality, and make it as transparent, loving and secure as possible and hope positive energy wins in the end.
I apologize in advance for my energy off topics all, it is something I am very interested in at the moment.
No need to apologize for what you believe in...at least not to me any ways.
It is good to stay positive and yes, that energy can be transferred to others as well.
There's also such a thing as rightgous indignation that some fail to understand.Some are expressing that negative energy as well.
At the end of the day, who has the solution to stop the same old reoccurring mess from happening again?
If I had a choice between the Youtuber that knows what it's like to be around a screaming kid while high or reading about healthy living online, I know what I'd pick hands down.
Youtube is a free distraction and easy way to influence everyone to feel and think a certain way (because it's "normal" if you see others doing it right?) It is saturated in marketing, ads and the every day person pushing products to make a living in a different way than we used to. It is a powerful learning tool as well so I use it to learn, to grow and evolve and I do my best to filter out the "noise". Noise to me = negativity, panic (over needing something or needing to do something), ego, self promotion, and overall pitching a version of reality that is not only not real, but dangerous.
I thank you for being open to my energy wonderings haha, I apologize as there was a commenter a day or so ago who felt I was being bizarre which is more than fair.
Well, if you're just wondering, then you must have another agenda going on the side.
The drug addict is now getting comments that the grandma gave the baby to a "Christian" family nearby. I suspect that's "negative energy" seeping into the Christian community and a shout out to stalk and harass anyone attempting to go to church.
It's easy to see that the boyfriend with his cross tat on his face is no Christian and likely it's a symbol to join some brotherhood in prison. It's unlikely these people know any Christians and have taken to the Illuminati type-conspiracy theorists- people for their daily readings. Those are the type of people who'd take a baby and not report it. The mother has a T shirt with that weird all seeing eye on it and I'd speculate that has a lot to do with her befuddled thinking as well as being raised in a violent drug family.
It'll take years to untangle their thinking-with or without drugs.The drugs likely help deal with the delusions presented before their very eyes.
From what I've read so far, there are mumblings about Evelyn being passed on to someone else in the community. The community is very tight knit, it does take a village and perhaps this is what happened here. I am hopeful the child is being hidden with a family as the child was not with grandma or her boyfriend, it seems they sent the police to chase a red herring.
It takes a parent to raise a child. The community is uncertain as it has been demonstrated time and time again.
Yeah, it would be nice to live in a 'Leave it to Beaver' world, but the reality is that simply isn't going to happen.
EVen her opening screen states: Normal is boring.
That tells you something right there. It also may explain her interpretation of how the case is getting more bizarre by each passing day. There are others out there-their own community that want to take over child rearing because they know better-that reinterpret reality.
It has been what it is since the beginning. The mother lied, other are involved and now it takes twists and turns in some storytelling fashion......much like the stories of the mother.
She reinvented reality to fit her current mood.
IT hasn't changed since day one.
That's why it doesn't take a community to raise a child.
What's funny is the woman has blathered on for more than 2 1/2 hours and near the end it is clear she doesn't even know the names of the mother, the grandmother, or anything else about the case.
I didn't watch the whole thing...just fast forwarded to bits and pieces as I could tell from the get go she didn't know anything and would never know anything based on her statement about getting high and screaming kids.
However, she has other women who adore her. Maybe it's because she calls herself 'Boss Bitch'...that's always endearing among the mommies out online getting involved in making the community a better place for their children.
It's also why others may need to stock up on ammunition.
I've noted it is an awful idea to watch anyone named "Bi@#% Boss" on YT. Luckily she hasn't been recommended to me.
She might be good for training at statement analysis. The beginning of the video, she states that it will be short and says something about doing it in the morning (idk, maybe she's a night owl)........then, 2 hours and 20 some odd minutes later she begins to wrap it up not knowing the names of the people involved.
I'd speculate heavy drug use shows in her language. I don't know. One sentence jumped out to me and I moved on. It was about all I wanted to know about drug addicts and children.
It's like mixing oil and water.
Yes YT is very interesting from an "analyzation" perspective. She sounds in chaos, using substances and distracting herself with filming for work to deal with the insanity she has created for herself. I feel for the children in her care.
Another, if you care to critique, is a new one called Monkey Mar.
She sounds like someone I've listened to briefly that is a offspring of a New Mexico air force base military police officer.
I recall her voice and this person sounds extremely similar. Extremely!
One statement she made that cause my hair to stand up on the back of my neck was:
Kids are good judges of character.
No they aren't! That's why many of them go missing each year. That's why they need parental guidance and not a community filled with daydreamers and drug addicts.
Yes children (in my opinion) are simply usually more transparent than older people. Being transparent in emotion is not the same as being excellent at judging others, Monkey Mar putting faith into children to guide her in this way is scary.
I don't know for certain that is the same woman, just that she sounds the same.
They've released a new photo of the baby. I'd speculate it didn't come from the mother as most her photos show her in a bib. This one shows her in a dirty T shirt that looks more normal for toddlers after eating. And, her little tummy is pouched out like she just ate.
In several of the mothers photos, the child looks tired.
Whatever the case, that's most likely what she'd look like without the distraction of bows and all the whistles if she were with someone else. At least others are not as condeming of the mother when there's no circus going on to throw her into the lions den for lunch.
If she is innocent, that type of behavior may turn her into an unfit mother if she weren't already one.
Bashing her online is ridicoulous as to assume she'd tell some werido stranger where her daughter was when even her own family or the police don't know. It's absurd!
I had a dream last night that Evelyn is still alive, that mother gave her to someone to keep her away from the father who broke her leg, and the mother is sending police after the wild herring intentionally. She does not want Evelyn found. The dream had an insistence that Evelyn is alive.
Don't call law enforcement with your dreams, "energy", "psychic impression, or any other tangent. They have much to sift through and these are forms of deception that are burdensome and foolish.
If you have a tip, make a call.
Peter
You would be surprised the information dreams can yield, and no I don't believe in psychics or "energy" in the way it was being thrown around by the poster here (I commented that it seemed bizarre)...however, there is a kind of intelligence that picks up on things most people don't...it is difficult to put into words...but basically it boils down to noticing subtleties in a person's demeanor, expressions, body language that most people don't and it is not voluntary, leading to, at times, very in depth information about a person. I want to emphasize that it is not "voluntary" like a psychic with a customer who takes their money and then "gets impressions, etc...it is rather, involuntary...both the noticing subtleties and impressions. I apologize if this sounds concocted...it is all too real, unfortunately.
Anyway, I look forward to reading your new post about the case, Peter. This situation has peeked my interest.
Apologies for the individual harping about positive energy, etc. It sounds like they may simply be spending too much time in the self-help section of the bookstore.
I was worried when I saw Peter's message on the new post today following the dream post. I should not have derailed with any talk of energy, we are a group of sensitive people trying to find answers with logic, and due to the nature of work for a lot of us this means we are susceptible to other people, their thoughts, etc. We are only human and we try to find answers best we can.
However as Peter said, do NOT call the police based on a dream. Dreams are not based in our reality and the police cannot use for any kind of purpose in their investigation, this is a massive waste of time for those who need to find answers ASAP.
Anonymous said...
You would be surprised the information dreams can yield, and no I don't believe in psychics or "energy" in the way it was being thrown around by the poster here (I commented that it seemed bizarre)...however, there is a kind of intelligence that picks up on things most people don't...
It is not true.
Also: you do correctly identify the personality trait most vulnerable to this suggestion with "that picks up on things most people don't..."
The need to be "special" or seen as different from others.
It stems from childhood.
Only once did a dreamer help a case.
He shared his "dream" of a murder ---details that only the killer and police would know.
He was arrested.
Peter
Peter,
In Maggie Boswell's interview, she stated,
"I just want to tell you what, like her favorite things and personality WAS. I know like looking on tv and just kind of seeing a picture it’s a lot harder to, you know, envision a baby."
"Well, she loves to take baths (laughs). That WAS her favorite thing. She HAD little shark toys that swim in the bath and stuff like that."
Interviewer: "Are you feeling worried or anything along those lines?"
Maggie: "Yeah."
Interviewer: "Can you tell me about that at all?"
Maggie: "Well, the reason I didn’t report it or anything is because I knew the person who HAD her and I didn’t want them to run away with her. And as soon as I thought anything was going on and they just kind of vanished. So I’m just worried about, you know, like where they’re at. What they’re doing with her at this point in time."
This particular interview was done before the grandmother and the grandmother's boyfriend were found and arrested with that BMW. The past tense "I knew the person who HAD her" begs the question...why did Maggie believe this person no longer "had" her?
Are the other past-tense references to Evelyn's personality and likable activities such as baths a red flag?
Paige
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