AMY WROE AND THE BIZARRE 911 CALL
Analysis by Evgenia K. Sarri
24th July marks the 24 anniversary of Amy’s disappearance. Her case remains unsolved.
Twenty-four-year-old Amy Wroe and Steve Bechtel were married in 1996. They were avid fitness enthusiasts; she loved running while he loved climbing. They moved to Lander, Wyoming, because its rugged terrain made it a perfect training ground for them. They had recently bought a home of their own and planned to move in sometime during late July 1997. At 9:30 a.m. on July 24, Steve Bechtel left to go rock climbing with a friend while his wife Amy had to teach a fitness class and run errands that day: call the phone company, get the gas turned on, and buy home insurance.
Amy was spotted at a photo store at 2:30 p.m. that afternoon. This is the last confirmed sighting of Amy. It is alleged that she left the photo store and drove to the Shoshone National Forest to explore the course of a 10 kilometer race held by her gym that she was planning on entering.
When Steve returned home at 4:30 p.m. from rock climbing, Amy was nowhere to be found. When darkness fell, Steve called family members and enlisted neighbors to help with the search for Amy. He called the police at 10.30 p.m.
Amy’s car was found parked off a dirt road in the wilderness of the Shoshone National Forest. Her keys were in the car, but her wallet was missing. No signs of foul play were discovered in or around Amy’s vehicle. And Amy has never been found.
We will analyze Steve Bechtel’s call and attempt to outline his profile using the analysis. Additional statements made by S.Bechtel will also provide insight into his personality.
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Expected Versus Unexpected
In Statement Analysis we expect in each case we analyze to find certain words, behaviors and feelings expressed in the statement, taking context into account. This is what we call “the expected.” Words will reflect the subject’s truth, whichever it is. In every case individual responses may vary, but as we are all humans and our bodies are governed by the same chemistry, we all respond to events in a similar manner. A traumatic event affects us all in almost the same way. Emotional expression may differ from person to person depending on their character, but language is different; it always reflects feelings.
When we do not find in the statement what is expected depending on the situation, but we find words and behaviors that do not fit in, we call it “the unexpected.” It can be very surprising at first, but it is a very valuable indicator of what lies beneath the surface of a person’s reaction and leads us to the truth of the person’s feelings. Exploring what caused the unexpected reaction and what it reveals helps us get closer to the true factors at play in the case we are analyzing.
The significance of 911 calls as first reactions
911 calls are invaluable to analysis, as they constitute the very first statement one makes to the police. By answering the question “what is your emergency?” the caller chooses his/her own words, without any contamination by investigators or lawyers, to describe an event and make a request. There are many cases in which the perpetrator of a crime is the one who calls the police. Besides the guilty caller cases, 911 calls reflect the caller’s priorities and thoughts.
When people call 911, it means they are in a state which needs immediate attention and they are in dire need of assistance. It is the only way they will have a service respond and provide them with the help they require. They may call for the police, the fire department or paramedics. In any case, what we expect to see is a sense of urgency. People in despair who are seeking help urgently will most often state their need and provide essential information in order to receive the help they are asking for. The intent is not to give a fully developed account of their recent experience, but to elicit a response from the agency they have called. We expect to see the presence of emotion and the expression of a demand as time is passing by and anxiety and fear are increasing.
Outlining the caller’s profile
Besides detecting points of deception in someone’s language, we can also gain insight into the subject’s psychological profile. The main personality traits are revealed in the way someone speaks and reacts in everyday life situations as well as in traumatic ones.
Since our character dictates our attitude and language is the main expression of our inner truth and feelings, when we analyze someone’s words the basic profile of their character emerges. We can detect their thought process and behavioral characteristics. We can make hypotheses about their priorities, their background and experiences in life which shaped their personality. And this happens because certain character types react in certain ways. We can, therefore, look for signs of emotion and which emotion is that is expressed; empathy, attitude towards self and others, their view of life and society in general; all these are points which can lead us to the main personality traits the subject possesses. We can then explore our hypothesis using corroborative evidence and additional information.
Is it possible to profile someone using one statement?
In context, a simple statement can reveal a lot about the person making it. We may not be able to create a full profile, but when the circumstances in which the statement was made are known, we are able to focus our attention on the subject’s emotions and attitude in a situation at the point of the statement. These are revealed by the grammar the subject uses and any modifying words which provide insights into their behavioral characteristics. What emerges is a broad outline which can later be elaborated on if other statements and information are, or become known.
Steve Bechtel’s 911 call
Unfortunately, the Sheriff’s office has not released the call. They have only released the first part of it.
What do we expect Amy’s husband to say? We expect him to be terribly worried about what has happened to his wife and ask the police to find her, or to help him find her. We expect him to be frantic, distraught; after all, he is a young man in love with his wife, to whom he has been married for just one and a half years. The thought of her having had an accident and being out there somewhere injured or helpless must be driving him crazy. What do we expect to hear? My wife Amy is missing.
This is the start of Bechtel’s 911 call:
Hi, this is Steve Bechtel calling. I’m, um, I’m missing a person… and I was wondering if you maybe had an extra…
Analysis
-Hi, this is SB calling
The call begins with a greeting and SB is introducing himself to the police. There is no urgency. By now, it has been about six hours that he supposedly has been waiting for Amy to come back from her jog. It is about 10.30pm. This is not a situation in which something terrible has just happened and the caller needs assistance for a victim suffering in front of him. This is a husband who is worried about his wife not coming home. The introduction could be appropriate. Something bad but not fatal may have happened to her; a minor accident, or an incident with her car. We know though, that he has not called any hospitals before the call to the police; just his neighbors and Amy’s parents.
We note the fact that the call begins with a salutation and we should keep it in mind. Even though we already said it could be appropriate, we should also think of the possibility that the caller is trying to ingratiate himself to the police.
We also note the formal way in which he introduces himself. Introducing himself on its own is not unexpected, as he could be providing essential information; the rest of the call should help us determine more accurately the reason behind it. We should keep in mind his priorities though. Could it be his sense of self-importance which dictates this start? Could it be distance through formality?
In any case, his introducing himself as a priority and the casual salutation can be an attempt of ingratiation and also an attempt to sound relaxed. Or, he could be relaxed and indifferent.
-I’m, um, I’m missing a person…
The subject stutters on the pronoun. This indicates nervousness. There is also a short pause between the two pronouns which could give him time to think.
Then he goes on to state his problem. Once again, his focus is on himself. This statement is about him.
He is missing a person, not his wife, not even gender is mentioned. Amy is deprived of her wife status. She is reduced to being just a person. This is unexpected from a husband who has been married to her for just over one year. It is extremely distancing language and negative linguistic disposition towards Amy as there is no social introduction of any kind. The impression given is that he is missing something that could be considered a possession.
What we would expect to hear from a distraught husband at that point is: “my wife Amy is missing”; the subject of the sentence and the focus should have been his wife, not him. The absence of a salutation would also be what is expected after anxiety must have been building up for hours.
-and I was wondering if you maybe had an extra
This is the definition of the unexpected; a caller that makes a joke on a 911 call.
Why would he do that? Who does that? What produces it in the subject’s mind?
If one decides to call 911, it means they have no other option. Anxiety has turned into fear and desperation and they need help. In this context, it is very unlikely that they will use humor in their communication with the police.
Why is the subject saying that?
Is he happy and he can’t hide it?
Is he nervous and his attempt of an awkward joke is a manifestation of his state?
Is this an attempt to minimize the fact he is reporting?
Is it an attempt to ridicule the fact that she is missing?
Does he have reasons to believe that she is not missing, that she may have left him and he does not want to lose face if this is the case? This is not a public statement; it is between him and the 911 operator. Is this his way of saying: this may be an overreaction, but…
Could it be about control? Could it be an attempt to show he has not lost control of the situation or his wife?
Humor always has a source and a reason to be present as we mentioned above. In Analysis we always note when it is produced and explore what may have produced it.
Furthermore, we know that he had some errands for her to do before she went missing, while he allegedly had gone rock climbing. No one who is going to leave their spouse makes sure that the gas and the phone for their new house will be connected.
Does he have guilty knowledge of what happened to her and makes the call to the police as part of a plan because this is what a worried husband would do?
Let us pause and look at what he is saying. What is this call about? We may not have it in its entirety, but “order shows priority”. This part is his priority sentence.
It is to report he is missing someone and is looking for a spare. He is asking for a replacement. It is as if he has spilled his coffee and is asking the waiter to bring him another one, or as if something has broken down and he is asking for a spare part to go on doing what he was doing. This is not a call for help. This is the subject stating that she is just a person to him and he does not need her. She is not irreplaceable to him.
Conclusion
Taking into account the importance he places upon himself by introducing himself the way he did and putting himself first, combined with the extremely distancing language regarding Amy and the fact of his inappropriate humorous attempt, we can conclude that there is no sign of any feeling whatsoever towards her. She is not his wife, she does not have a name, and she is “a person”. His linguistic disposition towards her is extremely negative. We would expect, even in a problematic relationship, to see human empathy for someone who may be alone and hurt in a mountainous area at 10.30pm. Even a stranger would have more feeling in their language than he has. This is why it is difficult to imagine joking about something like this, even if one called the police to report the disappearance of someone they did not know.
We note his focus is completely upon himself, his attitude towards the victim is cold bordering to hostile, and we also note a complete lack of any emotion relevant to a traumatic situation. He does not seem to be overwhelmed as we would expect a caller in these circumstances to be.
At the point of the call the subject does not present any of the characteristics an innocent caller would present. Further exploration of his attitude is necessary to determine if he has guilty knowledge of the events which caused his wife’s disappearance, or not.
Outlining Steve Bechtel’s profile
What we note in this small part of the call is someone who lacks any feeling towards his wife at a time like this. He is distancing himself from her and anything that may have happened. This subject has not only a cold attitude and no sign of empathy for his wife, but also no empathy for human beings in general.
His asking for a replacement in a joking manner can allow us to think that he values people depending on the usefulness they may have for him. People, even the ones who are closest to him, can be replaced. There is no emotional attachment.
This view of the world as an instrument is common to people who have narcissistic traits in their personality. The lack of the appropriate emotion in each situation can also be found in those with psychopathic traits. The subject in this case cannot even imitate natural reactions to emergency circumstances and does not seem to hold human life in general in high regard. This does not appear to disturb him, which is indicative of lack of emotional intelligence. There is also an indication of a possible need to control or appear to be in control of his environment, which is also a narcissistic trait. He needs to appear confident.
Let us see if we can dive deeper into his character.
Additional statements by Steve Bechtel
The statements following were made by the subject after the fact, in interviews he gave to some journalists. We keep in mind that time has passed and that the statements may be edited to some extent.
Segment 1
“It was funny,” Steve says. “I got home from climbing, it’s just a normal day, (-)get unpacked, (-)feed the dog or whatever, then I start wondering, Where is she? (-)Make some calls, (-)drive around a little bit. It gets to be like 8 p.m., 9 p.m., 10 p.m., that incredible anxiety builds up. You’re just worried. I hope she didn’t break her ankle, I hope she didn’t run out of gas, those normal things where you’re like, this sucks. But you’re not going, ‘I hope my wife wasn’t grabbed by some psychopathic serial killer.’”
Let us keep in mind the context. A young man in his twenties married to his wife for just over a year moved to Lander, Wyoming and they are going to move into their new home four or five days later. They must be happy and excited at the start of their new life together.
1. It was funny
When one is young and in love, would they characterize the fact that they can’t find their spouse “funny”? What exactly was funny about it? Why would he use this word and not say strange? It may be part of his personal, internal dictionary; we note it and we move on.
I got home from climbing, it’s just a normal day, (-)get unpacked, (-)feed the dog or whatever, then I start wondering, Where is she?
2. The first sentence begins with the pronoun “I” and is in the past tense. It is reliable in form.
It’s just a normal day
3. We note three things in this part.
The first one is the change in tenses; the subject changes from past tense to present.
We also note the use of “just” which means there is at least one other thought at play, combined with “normal”.
This part is important to him as it interrupts the flow of events he is describing. It is important for him to mention it at this point, before going on to say what happened next. It indicates that the day was anything but normal to him. He moves from reliably reporting a fact to the rest of the account which is different, and this part is a kind of a bridge between the two parts.
4. The subject continues in present tense. After the first reliable sentence of him coming back, the rest of the account is in present tense. What changed? Can this be an indication of storytelling?
5. (-)get unpacked, (-)feed the dog or whatever,
The subject removes himself from the events which followed by omitting the pronoun “I”. He does not commit to what he did next and is vague about his exact actions (whatever). This part is not reliable and causes us to wonder why he needs to avoid responsibility for these actions.
then I start wondering, Where is she?
6. “Then” marks the element of time. He does not mention how much time has passed. This is an indication that he has jumped through time.
We note that he starts “wondering”, not worrying about her. Could it be part of his character expressed here and his pattern of behavior? Does he usually need to know where she is?
(-)Make some calls, (-)drive around a little bit. It gets to be like 8 p.m., 9 p.m., 10 p.m., that incredible anxiety builds up.
7. The subject continues to use the same pattern of using the present tense and removing himself when describing the rest of his actions. He still has not said who did all these things. He is also vague about his actions. Who did he call and why? Where did he drive? This whole part is unreliable.
8. “a little bit” is to qualify driving around. These two qualifiers are both vague. He does not say he looked for her, he just drives around, but not frantically, not in fear, he drives around wondering where she is. Besides being unreliable and probably deceptive, this part can be indicative of his personality.
9. “that incredible anxiety”: the subject distances himself from the anxiety he is referring to. Is this to indicate emotional distance and not related to time passing by as he is speaking in present tense? Wouldn’t the present progressive be more fitting to his pattern? His anxiety could have been real. This raises the question: what was the real cause of that anxiety if it existed? It was not present in the 911 call he made later.
You’re just worried. I hope she didn’t break her ankle, I hope she didn’t run out of gas, those normal things where you’re like, this sucks.
10. The subject distances himself from the situation by using the pronoun “you”.
11. “just worried” is a step down from “incredible anxiety”; it is de-escalation. We would expect anxiety and tension to rise, not lessen as time goes by.
Could it be his character that dictates these words? Is he too arrogant to say how anxious or scared he was? Does he need this minimization of emotion to preserve his image, or is it a clumsy attempt to imitate natural reactions to an event like this?
12. “normal” appears for a second time, making the indication we noted earlier stronger.
We also note that he uses the distancing word “those” when he refers to normal things. The normal things are kept at a distance and he brings what “sucks” close to him. Is this indicative of his mindset at the time of the event which took place? Could it be related to what caused her disappearance?
But you’re not going, ‘I hope my wife wasn’t grabbed by some psychopathic serial killer.’
13. “But” is to minimize what preceded it.
At this point the subject is telling us what he did not think. We expect a truthful subject to tell us what he did and what he thought, and not the opposite.
14. We note that in mentioning the serial killer he changes tense and speaks in the past simple. This interview is taken in 2016, many years later. It could be a reason why the subject chooses the present tense. It could be a story for him since he has processed it and he has moved on in his life. He has not talked about the case much and he refuses to talk to the police. But we note the fact that when he talks about someone else he uses the past tense.
His reference to the serial killer is due to the fact that the only other suspect in Amy’s case was Dale Eaton, a convicted killer, who may be involved as he used to camp about 30 kilometers away from the place where her car was found and from where she allegedly went missing.
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Segment 2
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“The pavement ends and we hit a mixture of frozen mud and snow. We soon come to a branch in the road. “Right here,” he says. “Her car was parked right in there.” Steve narrates the night she disappeared.
“It’s one or so in the morning, (-)find the car,(-)get here. I brought sleeping bags and a cook stove and food—first-aid kit—we gotta find her. Todd and Amy had been driving and found the car. They called. We raced up here. You get here—this was a big error—we’re looking for a missing runner. Everybody was crawling through that car. Knowing what we know now we should have cordoned the thing off—fingerprints. It’s like the classic cluster of stupid crap.”
“It’s one or so in the morning, (-)find the car,(-)get here
14. It is surprising that the subject omits the pronouns in this sentence since the people who found the car were Todd and Amy, his friends and neighbors who were looking for her after Steve told them where his wife would probably have gone running.
Could the fact that he led them to search in that direction be the reason why he omits the pronouns? Does he wish to distance himself from that fact also?
I brought sleeping bags and a cook stove and food—first-aid kit—we gotta find her. Todd and Amy had been driving andfound the car. They called. We raced up here.
15. The subject now changes to past tenses and he uses the pronoun “I”. This part is reliable. We note this commitment has to do not with his movements after he got home, but with irrelevant facts.
We note the order: sleeping bags, cook stove, food, and a first aid kit, which is last in his priorities. It is as if he is going camping and knows that the first aid kit is just one of the supplies he has to have.
Would a worried husband be so meticulous with his supplies when his friends tell him they found his wife’s car abandoned with the keys on the engine up on the mountain? We would expect him to say he brought flashlights, flares, rope, climbing or hiking equipment, whistles, etc which would be more useful to the search, and not picnic equipment.
16. And then we see a change:
We gotta find her :a change in pronoun and in verb tense. He does not want to be alone in this statement. Why not say: I had to find her. Every other sentence in this part is reliable in form, including pronouns and the past tense, except this one.
We note again the fact that every sentence regarding other people’s actions has got a subject and a past tense verb. We can safely say that this is a pattern in his account.
You get here—this was a big error—we’re looking for a missing runner. Everybody was crawling through that car. Knowing what we know now we should have cordoned the thing off—fingerprints. It’s like the classic cluster of stupid crap.”
17. The subject is not standing anywhere alone at this part of the statement. He does not exist individually as the distraught husband. He goes from “you” to “we”. The tenses he uses are mixed up.
18. this was a big error—we’re looking for a missing runner
The subject brings the error close to him, even though it happened years ago and he uses the past simple. What produces this unexpected closeness? He does not come across as someone who would admit a mistake and this is expressed in passive language. Who made the error?
He goes on to state in the present progressive the reason why.
What makes this part very sensitive is not the reason why itself, but the fact that it is part of a sentence that tenses, distance (you) and closeness are all mixed together. It is between two parts of the account in which actions are reported reliably.
19. crawling through is a strange choice of words. What produced it? It is also in the past progressive tense, indicating the passing of time, of which he was very aware. What imprinted it in his mind? Was he worried about what would be found? Was crawling through a place something he is thinking of at this point?
Knowing what we know now we should have cordoned the thing off—fingerprints.
20. Does the subject identify with the police, or is he subtly blaming them for incompetence?
He uses police terminology. It could be contamination as time has passed. But the use of the pronoun “we” is significant. Does he want to give the impression he is united with them even if he did not cooperate at the time? Who is “we”? Could it be him and his friends?
Classic cluster of stupid crap:
21. This could be an accusation for the police. It is also minimization of the severity of the situation. It is vulgar, especially in an interview. It surely is his manner of speaking but could it be used to imitate frustration?
Conclusion
The subject omits pronouns in critical parts of his account, emphasizes the normal factor, but most of all, he mixes up the tenses in these statements. We can observe that reliable sentences in the past tense alternate with unreliable ones in the present tense. The only times he uses the past tense to speak about his actions or thoughts are to say:
“It was funny,”. “I got home from climbing.
I brought sleeping bags and a cook stove and food—first-aid kit
These are the only parts in which he uses reliable language to speak about his actions. And they contain the shocking statement that what he will say next was “funny” to him. We could mean strange, or odd, but he uses this word, which allows us to think that he may have found what followed amusing.
This raises the question: if he has guilty knowledge, would it be amusing to him to see all those people searching for Amy and believing his story? We should keep in mind his attempt to make a joke in his 911 call.
When he talks about other people’s actions he uses the past tenses more, but he does not speak about him individually, except when he says he brought sleeping bags, food and a first aid kit, which is unnecessary information and irrelevant to the case. The use of the present cannot be an indication that he is reliving the event due to trauma because of the other elements of unreliability. The confusion in the use of tenses is an indication of probable story telling mixed with irrelevant true facts, or processing of loss, which is also unexpected as events like this when someone is young and in love should produce the past tense and some emotion even after all these years.
The subject is withholding information and does not reliably report what happened. He also avoids responsibility for his actions. These are indications of deception which require further exploration through analytical interviewing.
Closing remarks
Amy’s body has never been found. The search for her was huge. Even NASA was asked to contribute by providing satellite photos. According to the FBI, Steve Bechtel was the main suspect.
This happened at a time and place with no mobile phones and surveillance cameras. One cannot help but wonder how that investigation could have been different if analysis of Bechtel’s words and analytical interviewing were applied by trained investigators.
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107 comments:
This is the start of Bechtel’s 911 call:
"Hi, this is Steve Bechtel calling. I’m, um, I’m missing a person… and I was wondering if you maybe had an extra…"
the subject makes his wife the brunt of a joke. it is not long after she is over-due that he calls 911. it could be expected that he would be concerned he is calling too soon and wasting police time, yet he does not show such concern, thus making his wife the brunt of a joke could reflect not only his personality but that he knows she won't be found.
It makes no sense!
Why would he kill her? He had alibis what with his plans for that day.
Perhaps asking for an "extra" police officer is noted by the small towns size that likley had limited LE for extra work such as locating his chronically late wife. It's not an emergency at that point when he called.
It is doubtful the FBI took much interest either and that NASA involvement is most likely added "cluster of crap" as they desire to make others think there's a big eye in the sky that can spot everyone at any time. If they truly had that type of technology, she would have been spotted leaving her car and entering another perhaps or at least hiking off into the wilderness only to be eaten by a big ole bear.
Wonder what she had taken photos of? That's a typical tale-tell sign of someone that may go missing unexplainably.
Bechtel looks, from the analysis, to be a person of great interest.
He brought to mind Brad Dunlap, whose wife’s cold case was looked at here a while back. Anne Dunlap also a runner, had also been looking forward to moving into their new home when her husband reported her missing twenty-five years ago; Anne’s body was found in the trunk of her car, for which her husband received a massive insurance settlement despite his being the only viable suspect. At one point, during a tv interview, he seemed to be suppressing amusement, or hysteria, as his wife’s car was located.
At least their words are still available - there’s always hope that where it wasn’t used, SA will be utilised when these cases are revisited.
A quick read of the subject yields a caller claiming to have described the husband's truck in the area around the time she went hiking with a blonde inside.
Since he refused a polygraph based on legal counsel after the cops tried to get him to confess though he was with friends at the time who can place his whereabouts, perhaps it would be more beneficial to analyze the statements of the sheriff and moreso the statements of the FBI in regards to their utilization of NASA equipment.
How much was the unseen tipster paid?
How much did a few faxes of satellite images cost the bureau for publicity stunts?
OT Update:
WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SWIMMING HOLE WITH SUMMER WELLS THE DAY SHE DISAPPEARED - THE INTERVIEW ROOM
Chris sits down with Hunter, the 15-year-old boy who was with Summer Wells at the Horse Pond Swimming hole on June 15, the day the 5-year-old Tennessee girl was reported missing.
https://youtu.be/KK12c4xuk9A?t=17
Lifted from Websleuths:
Snippets picked up from interview above so far:
Was told boys went with dad to work
He asked to go fishing with them
Summer changed clothes at H’s
Line was long - they went through the drive thru at pharmacy
While there Don calls her about a guy on the property stalking kids :eek:
(name is bleeped out)
H asked her why he called
X guy was up there doing something until he got arrested (was interested in seeing Grandma)
Candace buys smokes and a vape (she gets out of the car) and 1 twisted tea can
Go to horse stable park - Grandma is in car
Summer is snuggling with him watching TTok videos - she seemed fine
Back to the call with Don: H listened in for anything suspicious
Gave him the alcohol (didn’t ask for it until after she bought it)
Summer was in water while he was standing around drinking the tea
They were watching videos and chatting while Summer swam
Grandma was still in the car adding mins to her phone
Summer under water 10-15 seconds
He went in water to see if she was OK
He asks if Summer is OK and she says “yeah” and is laughing
(Interesting commentary and speculation)
She was looking for flowers and wished she could pick some
He stayed focused on Summer
Summer seemed perfectly fine
(Again adds commentary and speculation)
Slushy at Sonic - Summer got a blueberry one - ate them on the way to Priceless
Candus and her mom go in store, H stays in car with Summer and she seems fine
They were in the store for an hour maybe getting groceries
He wasn’t there when they took the picture. His mom states she thinks that picture was taken in her driveway.
He puts the milk in the middle
When he got out of the car she was sleeping in the middle (he wasn’t paying attention and just wanted to go inside)
He goes to the front so she can hand him the other vape
He doesn’t know how the milk got re-arranged (then said he could have set them there when he got out of the car)
She calls to state that Summer is missing and she has been looking
Tells her to call A
Gives his mom a heads up Candus will be calling that Summer is missing
Calls him the next day stating she is at police station and had to do another poly
TBI told him don’t contact her - (He is upset TBI still has his phone)
She went to their home and told him don’t mention the alcohol
He grabbed her phone to see if she had anything to hide
He is very street smart and knows to look through phones
He puts his phone where hers was - he is good with tech
He looked in her phone and seen 13 messages between her and X
A message that says “It is done”
She asked if he went through her phone - he states he told TBI about all this
OT: H
I think it’s great Chris M got the interview, but I don’t think it should have been aired - too much boundary crossing. H is a minor who doesn’t look to have adequately functioning guardians.
OT: Summer
I'm amazed at the repeated mention of tobacco, alcohol and drugs with Summer's parents who at least according to themselves are Seventh-day Adventists in good standing. I am 4th generation SDA; my family left the church when I was 17 because the church no longer upholds the standards it held previously. Nevertheless it's hard for me to believe the church has become THAT lax. Tobacco and alcohol are grounds for disfellowshipment. The father claims his criminal behavior is a thing of the past and if he is a new convert we would like to believe him; but if his substance abuse is not a thing of the past, how are we to trust any avowal of change? At this point their frequent references to God and religion sound more like virtue signaling.
John Mc Gowan said...
“Snippets picked up from interview above so far:
While there Don calls her about a guy on the property stalking kids :eek:”
This is very interesting. If this is true then we know that Don knew about a stalker being on the property and either knew that from first-hand knowledge (he was there), or second hand knowledge (a neighbour or the likes had contacted him to let him know). He had passed this info onto Candus and then later she had returned home. We know from the statements made so far that there has been neglect in regards to the caretaking of Summer, and it likely she was roaming around the property without proper supervision at the time of her disappearance.
We have the statement made by the father –
“she loved to be outside all the time, [that’s - that was her - unfortunately, her - you know, her downfall,] [because] a lot of times [we’d] be – [the boys] would be inside, and we’d be like, “Where’s Summer? Why’d you leave her out there alone?” You know, “Go get Summer now.” - you know, and that’s happened [over and over] again.
He tells us that her being outside was her “downfall” and this was something which happened “over and over”. So if the information from H is correct then we have a situation where a stalker is known to be around the property at the time of Summers disappearance and we know from analysis of the mothers statements that she allowed for Summer to be in different locations other to the basement. From this position it doesn’t take much to work out what likely occurred that day. This accounts for the language from the father from day one where he tells us he knows she has been abducted. From what he knew he would have made that deduction quickly in his mind.
This conclusion is reliant on the veracity of the statements made by H to TD in the interview. I will post some transcript concerning this information from the interview later.
Adrian.
11m 35s - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK12c4xuk9A&t=17s
WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SWIMMING HOLE WITH SUMMER WELLS THE DAY SHE DISAPPEARED - THE INTERVIEW ROOM
Part regarding the stalker:
H: And then while we were in the drive through her husband calls her talk about this dude named (redacted) on the property that’s been there for like a week or so she told me, that keeps stalking other kids (I am not certain about the word “other”).
TD: Whos that?
H: Some dude named like (redacted) I have no idea who it was.
TD: OK and why did Don call?
H: I have no idea, he just called. I don’t even know if he was working at the time, but if he was working he obviously wouldn’t know that. That there was some dude looking at the little kids.
TD: So this dude named (redacted), Don calls Candus…..
H: and tells her about… I don’t know if his name was (redacted)
TD: And tell me about that?
H: All I heard was….
TD: And how did you hear it?
H: I heard because I asked her why he called. The only thing that she told me from the phone call is that there was some dude (redacted), whatever it was. Just the name (redacted), that’s all I remember. Is that he`s been up at her, up on the property for a week or two trying like, I guess she said touch the little kids. That’s what I was told.
TD: He was trying to have what?
H: Touch little kids?
TD: Touch the kids?
HL Like give them a hug or something, I don’t know.
Adrian.
I should have put CD instead of TD in my transcript to name Chris McDonough, my apologies for that error. Chris asked Hunter a good question, as well as what did Hunter hear, Chris wants to know how did he hear it.
TD: And how did you hear it?
H: I heard [because] I asked her why he called. The [only] thing that she told me from the phone call is that there was some dude (redacted), whatever it was. Just the name (redacted), that’s [all I remember], Is that he`s been up at [her], up on [the] property for a week or two trying like, I [guess] she said touch the little kids. [That’s what I was told.]
Some initial thoughts -
Hunter says –
“The [only] thing that she told me” – The word “only” is dependent on another thought/s. We have a situation where Hunter wishes to restrict what he is going to tell Chris. This could be because either he is worried Chris thinks he knows more and Hunter feels a need to emphasise he doesn’t, or that he does in fact know more and that information may be sensitive and he wishes to avoid it giving it. Note the question of “how” has led Hunter to use “limiting” language through his use of the word “only” in his answer.
“that’s [all] I remember” – This is his second statement which speaks to limiting information. By saying “remember” it allows for other things to have been said but it is his memory which will be responsible for what he can say (recall). It’s like saying there’s more, but “that’s [all] I remember”. Deliberate or not we know there is missing information here.
“at [her], up on [the]” – Pronoun change and self-censor. Something caused him to change mid-sentence. He doesn’t want to say the stalker was at “her property” or house, and changes “she” for the article “the” to speak of “the property”. This distances the stalkers connection to Candus.
“I [guess] she said touch the little kids.” – He is not going to tell us what Candus said but rather what he guesses she said. Why would he have to guess what she said?
“That’s what I was told.” – He fails to tell us who told him which makes his statement passive as it is not connected to anyone. The expected would be - “That’s what [she] told me” which connects the words with Candus through pronoun “she”.
Adrian.
Another interview with the Summer Wells mother from the 21st July -
https://www.therogersvillereview.com/rogersville/article_2b1b072a-8c56-513b-8024-faace9a4f2c3.html
Adrian.
Lol!
These drug and human trafficking rings not only affect the "mothers" they get on camera, but also the surrounding communities...especially if they are ignorant. And, most want to be ignorant as the "truth" isn't in their best interest though they claim to search for the "truth".
In any state that thinks the military should take over like the father stated, there's typically a political agenda. Historically, these traffickers utilize that agenda for their own purposes.
They go about the business of trying to force others into their "causes" just like criminal rings that they are. Some will even show up (not stalking I assume if they are do-gooders) with their own bullet proof vests.
Firing on these do-gooders is considered uncouth...after all, they have the Noble task of helping the children.
With all those dogs, I'm surprised they didn't bait them out with the remnants of those they've dismembered....that's their standard MO.
Considering the Christmas day bombing down near Printers Alley, I can only imagine their tin-foil do-gooder crap is already thick in Tenn. When you see an older man embracing the idiocy that wasn't raised with that type of culture, then it's safe to assume no one is beyond the sicknesses that it produces.
John has never been to Texas it seems or he wouldn't hang his hat on the Webslutters bs. A bunch of obsessive compulsive Gore lovers that think they are do-gooders. Their parenting skills is why you want to stay strapped whenever you see a Texan coming.
After the area where Summer went missing gets radio towers installed, you can expect it (the real stalking) to pick up. Right now only those who can pay for the best satellite communications can inflict real terror for real crime in real time.
Yep, it's what I thought...it's the Army of God doing their good deeds.
Gossip monger for Jesus, Plunder of Pillage and Plunder, posted most the social media accounts concerning Don Wells and states he wasn't at work that day. Also, there's a photo of the red Tacoma with the ladder rack and no sight of the white buckets however. It seems this tip came in miraculously soon after a blank check (??) for $25,000 was offered for information on Summers whereabouts.
Typical drill.
Also, Don Wells states that searching neighbors homes for missing children without a warrant should be the law...or at least get a warrant and search without reasonable cause like they do in military states. It's the Americanized version of the old Soviet Union though many of these online hags and faghags promote the social engineering of the same via pretending they are part of the Gestapo.
Spy-on-yer-neighbor for Jesus...just like they do in the Midwestern states. Screw taking care of your own children and minding your own business....now these laws have to be enacted all across America! Jeesh!
It's the typical do-gooders vs the evil-doers.
Her video gets interesting at the 37 min mark. Who sad is that?
It's my understanding they don't make much money on ad revenue doing these things so why on earth would they do it? The addiction to terrorism g others?
One main takeaway-they took the boys to a different environment...the CPS that is.
Whew!
There's another YouTuber out of Canada that does the same racket (or racketeering) that ordered the stalking of the Grandma while she was in Minnesota. I think that's the state that produced "making of a murderer" and had a ex seal that loves producing conspiracy crap for Govenor once. If not, then it's nearby.
This slob is a self-appointed expert in crime and criminology and hides behind scripture to go off on his rants. Plunder is more Flor-duh like with her "christian theology/gossip/slander for the little children first amendment advocate. Without her assistance in making America a terrorist state again, these situations would be wrapped up much more quickly.
But, who'd want that?
One thing they all have in common is they think everyone else's rights should be restricted while they play do-gooder roles.
It's similar to those thinking Nancy Grace is a Christian because she advocates for children though her tactics are anything but. The original female proponent of child mutilation porn what with her chipper-shredder theories and other gory torture you can't get out of your head after watching her show.
If Mr. Wells thinks someone hasn't already got a break and enter for the little children program going, then he hasn't been too in touch with reality lately.
It's all about the fascination with the gossip of drug addled groups. A sampling of those militarised groups at work can be seen at the DC rally on January 6th.
CONFIRMED: CPS Took Summer Wells Brother's Away From Candus & Don Wells-Straight From Don's Mouth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-hNc8i9QE
He state self-professed detectives and Christian psychics are coming up to his house at night and it's not safe for his children there.
Well, welcome to the wide, wide world of those overly concerned with children. They have no boundaries and could care less about anyone other than their subscribers and of course themselves.
Sneaking around at night is the name of the game for these do-gooders...even if you don't have a missing child. They want a missing someone.
About the only time the police get involved is when you step out to gun them down...and then it's only because they fear they'll have to battle a bunch of 2nd amendment proponents instead of 1st.
Then, they'll trunp up some reason for an illegal stop and search
Their corrupt system will even try to keep you from fleeing the nasty bass turds.
Betcha they can shut their tailgate now!
If Wells wants to move to a military lockdown, I know just the place for him.
I can only imagine a lot of people couldn't shut their tailgate after their coddled little children shut down the Interstate near where I was illegally detained and searched for drugs and weapons....their little children had to impulsively cut donuts in the highway ( a main Interstate) while others waited for their reckless driving skills to be aired for all to see.
That's the type of creatures these "hep the lil children" advocates raise. What a bunch of do-gooders.
Nary an American Indian woman, none of more than 200, will be found or murder solved until the last dime of federal Grant money is consumed either.
The same holds true for their missing children....they just want to produce their DNA shitshow.
Mary
I'm not Mary. That's another victim of their shitshow, though.
Must be a "Watcher"
Guess the hacker association still haven't located that "tailgate that won't shut".
If it worked once, it'll work twice.
Look a cross the street.
I'm not an inbred Texan nor a military brat.
"We don't know anything about no red truck. We hardly know any of our neighbors..."
I found an old video in which a friend of their claims the red Tacoma was found in another county with the plates removed. Police ran the VIN and tracked it back to one of their neighbors.
Very curious. Either the neighbor is involved, or someone who stole their vehicle is involved.
That's about par for the course and right in line with the typical trafficking scenerios.
It's hard to beleive people are so calloused they use the boys photos in their videos exposing them to more danger. I thought that was illegal to use minors photos. They may have stolen them from the family social media, but still that doesn't give them rights.
If they'd start shooting these people that think they are detectives or other implements of destruction concerning these children...and I mean in cold blood without warning...I bet that would slow down the terrorism for ad clicks.
Hack them up and feed them to the dogs.
OT: Re Mike Donohue’s interview with the boy’s mother:
I thought how much Candus doesn’t need enemies, with friends like Ally. Some of it might be slander, especially before the eleven minute mark, but mostly hearsay, so not much reliable in there, beside eagerness by all three to throw Candus under the bus.
How was Mama Bear quite so willing for her own ADHD cub to go off all day with Candus, which was not the only time, if really Candus was so terrible, no longer her friend for the way she was, the things she did, and how she raised her kids? As she had made reports about Candus and her kids to CPS, why did she let Candus have sole care of her son, and socialise her own family with Candus’ family? A bit of a contradiction, which makes me wonder if really she was that concerned.
Questions, I wanted to ask Lesley, but best not asked: How many CPS reports are funny, and after what number do they stop being funny? Is that it just a figure of speech, or is it a sport?
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There’s such dislike between Ally’s mother or grandmother, not sure which generation, and Candus. It was strange how Candus made sure to include the boy’s alleged insult to the grandmother in her first interview - by turn, grandmother has slagged off Candus and called her house “nasty”, whilst also claiming never to have been there, except to the end of the drive, to help feed the dogs, when Candus was away. She kept prompting Ally, and answering for her, and it wasn’t even her interview. That Candus took the opportunity to let the grandmother and the public know, via tv interview, what the boy allegedly had said, was very strange, particularly in context of it being her first interview about her missing daughter. It seemed a mean yet petty slight, also a throwing of the boy under the bus with his grandmother, too - why did she choose to say that, rather than keep the focus on Summer?
Strange demands - In times gone by, it would be very acceptable to media and public if the father alone were interviewed - one distraught parent, guilty or not, would suffice - it would be understood the other was most likely having a nervous breakdown.
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I read a post or text message by Candus in which she referred to her Bells’ Palsy being made worse by something, I forget what - that may be why she doesn’t have much facial expression or smile much in the family photos.
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I still think her language is off from the first interview - not using Summer’s name, reminiscing nostalgically about Summer when her fate is unknown and it was still quite early days. She also said Summer was “gone” - which often means dead. Both parents seemed resigned to having lost Summer very early on.
Did Candus lose track of time after they returned?
Did she do much of the laundry? - new info from latest interview by Mike Donhough
Could someone known to the family, who wouldn’t set off the dogs, have been hiding in the basement?
Did the parents agree on whether the basement door was locked?
There’s hand washing, doors and laundry from Candus now.
CANDUS WELLS INTERVIEW AT THE SWIMMING HOLE, PART 1 - THE INTERVIEW ROOM WITH CHRIS MCDONOUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZdQtAMQIkc
On Monday the Hawkins County Sheriff's office confirmed for the Times News that Summer's three older brothers had been removed from their home recently by the Tennessee Department of Children's Services, although the reason for that removal isn't a public record.
Monday morning the Times News spoke to Summer's father, [DW], who wouldn't discuss specifics about why the boys were removed except to say it's not safe at his home at this time.
“Right now it's not safe at my house,” [DW] said. “There's too much going on and people are crazier than hell, and right now it's just not safe at my house. There's too much going on. Too many crazy people coming around trying to start stuff.”
When asked if his three sons were in state custody or staying with friends or relatives, [DW] replied, “I can't answer any questions, buddy. I'm not going to go there.”
[DW]: “All this speculation is getting worse, and worse and worse. People are threatening us, and it's not safe at my house. We're hoping if something happens things will start to get safer, but the way things are going it's just getting worse and worse.”
Hawkins County Sheriff Ronnie Lawson told the Times News Monday that the investigation into Summer's disappearance continues.
Although local volunteer searchers are on standby to return to Beech Creek at the request of law enforcement, Lawson said there has been no new information after the initial 13 day search that required searchers to return to the scene.
(more at link)
I believe him.
However, the passivity is off the scale.
Passivity is employed to conceal identification and or responsibility.
Also note any repetition of language or words as sensitive.
I don't know if the link will work. It doesn't for me as i'm in Europe.
https://www.timesnews.net/living/family/summer-wells-brothers-removed-from-home-by-dcs-dad-says-its-not-safe-at-my/article_17c3282c-ee36-11eb-b001-0b4448d507b3.html
From what im aware of, this is the first "denial" of any responsibility of "hurting" Summer.
The only thing that concerns me about his statement is, was he asked did they "hurt" Summer, or was it in the free editing stage, choosing his own words?
HAWKINS COUNTY, Tenn. (WVLT) - Summer Wells’ three brothers were taken from the family’s Hawkins County home by the Department of Child Services, Donald Wells, father of missing 5-year-old Summer Wells, told the Kingsport Times News Monday.
On Monday, WVLT News attempted to independently verify the Kingsport Times News’ reports. In separate phone conversations with both WVLT News Reporter Sam Luther and WVLT News Anchor Amanda Hara, Don Wells said he would not say whether his children had been removed by DCS.
When asked by Hara if he told the Kingsport Times News that his children had been removed, Wells would not confirm or deny he made that statement to the paper.
WVLT News reached out to Donald Wells Friday, July 23 to confirm whether or not the boys had been removed from the house, but he told reporters that was not the case.
It is unclear at this time why Donald Wells refused to confirm where the boys are on Friday, or why he will not give specific information now.
“Yeah it’s dangerous at my house,” he told WVLT News, saying his family has received “several threats” from social media.
Donald Wells told the Kingsport Times News that people have been trespassing on his property, including people claiming to be psychics.
“All sorts of people. Juanita for one. They think she’s a psychic and she has some sort of special gift, and we don’t need her crazy ass stopping at our house. She claims to be a Christian, and then she claims to be a psychic. How does that work. If you’re a Christian God says you don’t go there, period. It’s against God,” the father told Times News.
When asked whether the boys are in state custody or with friends and relatives, Donald Wells told Times News “I can’t answer any questions, buddy. I’m not going to go there.”
Wells told WVLT News, “Just know that we love our daughter with all our hearts. We would never do anything to hurt our daughter, we would never hurt a soul. We love everybody, we are Christian people. We wouldn’t hurt nobody, especially our beautiful, loving daughter.”
WVLT News has reached out to the DCS for details, but reports on child removals are not public record.
Summer Wells went missing nearly six weeks ago. Multiple law enforcement agencies have been searching for her and investigating the disappearance ever since. Neither the search nor the investigation have revealed any information leading to the recovery of the girl yet, but law enforcement officials said the investigation is still ongoing.
Nonprofit volunteer organization Equusearch was in Hawkins County over the weekend to help in the search for Summer Wells, but no new information was found.
Law enforcement officials tell WVLT News that both the investigation and search are ongoing.
https://www.wvlt.tv/2021/07/26/summer-wells-brothers-taken-by-dcs-according-new-report/
John, Don Wells spoke to YouTuber, J for Justice last week:
He told J that someone had tailed him, posing:
“…they said they had the inside scoop of TBI, and that they knew I had sold my daughter for drugs. And I flipped out - I flipped out, and y’know, I believed that stuff, like, I believed it, and I flipped out. You know, I started drinking and everything else - that’s why they took the kids.”
It was Don’s behaviour which made the home unsafe for the boys, maybe not the people bothering them, though they probably contributed to Don “flipping out” and drinking. What is flipping out to Don, and what is “everything else”?
Those poor boys - they must be so traumatised through all this.
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Where’s Summer?
Why did he feel the need to say he had put as many tools in his truck as he could before leaving work the day Summer went missing? Maybe just because they are not well off, and tools are expensive, but in retrospect he felt guilt for prioritising any of his tools over hurrying home? Or was there maybe observed a Summer sized space in his truck?
Why did they give out older photos of Summer, which no longer represented her appearance?
Is it unexpected for a parent of a missing child to publicly articulate fears of torture, confinement? I don’t recall others doing that and wonder if it could be a need to persuade?
June 15 2021
The Words of Candace Wells : Mother of Missing Summer Wells
"We come home. And then me and my mom – the boys were in watching Youtube like they always do – my mom says, ‘let’s re-arrange and plant the flowers.’ She goes, ‘Well, we know the boys aren’t going to help us. I know Summer will.’ So, I yelled for Summer. She was in the house with the boys. She comes out and she was planting flowers with us,”
The flowers were put in planters next to Grandma Candy’s camper, with Summer handling some of the tasks,"
“She put all the rocks on top, put chaste in there. She did all the rocks herself. We went in to grandmother’s after we were done. She asked Grandma for a piece of candy. Grandma gave her a piece of candy. She told me she wanted to go back over with her brothers, so I literally walked her” halfway between the camper and the house,"
“I watched her go in the door and I could see her brothers at the kitchen table. When she went in, I walked over and yelled at the boys, I said, ‘Watch Summer. I’ll be right back. I’ve got to fix Mom’s knee brace.’ I was standing right there (at the camper). I was over there fixing it. Literally, you can see my house from the (camper) door. She did not walk back out that front door.”
“So, I went down there and I searched. I looked everywhere I could. Then I went through the house and I kept calling for her, yelling for her, everything. I came out here (outside) yelling for her, everything else, and she was nowhere. So, I called Don because I was freaking out,”
“I said, ‘I can’t find Summer. Get home now,’” “He was like, ‘Call 9-1-1.’ So, I dropped my phone because I had to run over and get Mom’s phone and dial 9-1-1, because her AT & T phone is the only one that works out here to call 9-1-1. So, I called them, and told them what’s goin’ on.
“Before the cops even came out, I went down and told my neighbors, ‘Summer is missing, will you help me look?’ just in case she did wander off. But I knew in the back of my mind, she’s never wandered off. She never went nowhere without me. She’ll ask me to do something before she even goes and does it. And she’s scared to go in the woods herself because we’ve told her time and time (again) because of the bears and snakes,”..
“I sent the older boys down through the creek. If they’ve got a walkie-talkie and their buck knife, they can go down through there. I sent all them searching and I went out in my mom’s truck and went all the way down by the church, then went all the way down the (other) way and I didn’t see nobody even out and about,”
“Then I went all the way back in the holler as far as the truck can go and I didn’t see nothing back in there, either. When I was coming back up out of the holler, the cops were coming up in my driveway. So, I just followed them up in here. I don’t recall if (Don) was here before the police got here or if he was here at the same time they showed up,"
“We searched everywhere we could possibly search. They were out here for three or four days straight searching 5,000 square (acres). They searched all this mountain terrain all the way down through here.
“They smile to put on a good show, but other than that, I know they’re really upset. They ask me every day, ‘Is Summer coming home today?’ I can’t answer that. I don’t know. I find myself sitting out her until midnight or one o’clock at night just hoping maybe that whoever took her or whatever happened, she’ll come wandering back up the driveway to us.”
Candus Wells
OT: The Interview Room - Summer’s home
So sad, yet fascinating.
I can see why Summer always wanted to be outside, and why she loved her swing - not much for a five year old to do inside, or space to do it. We only saw some of the house - it looks like houses do when the mother is not coping with day to day of life, nothing gets done, stuff piles up, and they can’t begin to tackle it; everything becomes inaccessible. Maybe why grandma would visit for three months, and why Candus would avoid CPS, and not cook. Maybe it was worse before Grandma visited, Candus said she did laundry the day Summer disappeared, so she must have been able to use the washing machine.
They really aren’t the flower planting type, and I don’t care what anyone says about succulents and pots because that is not what first was said - there are succulents in pots, but “repotting cactus” is not the same as planting flowers. Though they could have been planting flowers in the pots, too, if grandma HAD swiped a few from the state park, but according to Candus, she didn’t, because Candus told grandma not to, because it is illegal. If there were, by any chance, a few swiped cuttings hidden amongst those succulents, it would be weird to care or worry about anyone identifying and following up on a few ill-gotten flowers on your property when your five year old was missing. Strange how Candus mentioned that in both parts of the interview, because it’s something which should be insignificant, especially if Grandma didn’t even swipe the flowers. There seems some sensitivity round the state park flowers - the boy maybe mentioned them too?
Well, Candus said they were planting flowers, but there were only succulents in pots. The videos show they are not gardeners, there is only grass and dirt, and even if they did plant flowers, the dogs would soon dig them up. Unless they were in pots - possibly Grandma did swipe those flowers, but I can’t imagine that would be why she packed up her truck and left. I think she was only visiting, and does long visits, and keeps a little trailer there. Didn’t Candus begin her account of when Summer went missing with them planting flowers? It would make them significant, somehow, if so?
Similar with the boy saying Candus told him not to say she gave him a Twisted Tea - really, who cares, in the circumstances - even if she did, it was only 5%, it’s virtually water.
Why care about those things when Summer was gone, if she did?
I didn’t understand the windowless addition - is it not yet in use, are wIndows put in later? Maybe making bedrooms, not having enough time or money to finish the project. I can’t imagine the struggle of raising four children like that, or where the children play in winter - until recently, all four children slept in the tiny basement area, and so close to the parents - so cramped, it could not be very comfortable for any of them.
Don’s home bar had no alcohol - out of stock, or does he really try not to drink these days? Maybe it was just their joke that the construction was a bar.
Candus praised Don in their joint interview, for always providing for them. Don hoped Summer wasn’t locked away in the dark, not able to play outside, or with her puppy - makes me wonder now if that was not already some of her life. Dark basement, window taped up. There’s some strange dynamic between him and Candus, he takes indirect swipes at her, as when describing the type of women Summer looked up to, so as to imply not women like Candus; Candus agreed with him - probably she is well practised at that if he’s prone to “flipping out “ and “everything else”. Those poor kids, who knows what they went through, as Candus, from her friends, sounds something of a nightmare at times, too.
Summer’s well worn path between her dismal bedroom and the swing - barefoot, head shaved - the more we see, the more heartrending her life becomes. She knew no different. Did someone take or give her away because they did know different, and wanted her to have a better life? Did she just wander off and sadly has not been found for all the effort?
Why did Candus agree to show us how they live? Is it for sympathy, a cry for help, to punish Don - or really only to facilitate understanding of what she says happened that day after they got home? She knows how the pile-on from social media is likely to be. It’s all very strange. I’m none the wiser about how Summer went missing, or how Candus, according to Ally, spent twenty minutes searching the basement for her - it would not take that long.
INSIDE SUMMER WELLS' HOME & BEDROOM WITH CANDUS WELLS - THE INTERVIEW ROOM WITH CHRIS MCDONOUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUELTs6NhHc&list=RDCMUCaYSPdXtA5wIBkHk-OKsOMg&start_radio=1
OT : Don Wells
“…they said they had the inside scoop of TBI, and that they knew I had sold my daughter for drugs. And I flipped out - I flipped out, and y’know, I believed that stuff, like, I believed it, and I flipped out. You know, I started drinking and everything else - that’s why they took the kids.”
What did Don believe? That the TBI knew he had sold his daughter for drugs? Or that the TBI suspected him of such? Could there be an embedded admission - “I sold my daughter for drugs” - or is that reaching? He could be quoting whoever said that to him, or he could be choosing to phrase it that way - that “they knew”.
A relative of Don’s claims that in the distant past Don tried to sell two of his now adult children for drugs. If true, that could make him believe he is suspected of having done that with Summer, whether so or not. He might flip out if he had, but equally if he hadn’t, but believed he was going to be wrongly accused.
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Don apparently lived like that before he met Candus, the children of his earlier marriage similarly neglected - maybe it didn’t concern him. It doesn’t seem to bother Candus much if “not the prettiest house” is her main fault-find from the house tour. I don’t think her earlier “I’m sorry if you don’t like us, how we live, etc ” speech cuts it, somehow - it’s as if though she doesn’t see a problem.
If Summer were found today there wouldn’t be anyone, having seen the video, who’d be willing to allow her back home.
I'm wondering if she didn't get electrocuted judging from the plumbing and electrical cords everywhere. And, she was likely still wet to some degree from swimming.
That might explain why they took a TV.
I've never seen anything like that...even on houses 50-75 years older than that one.
They had a generator out back they said hadn't worked in 15 years.
Also, they trimmed trees near the road that day and before. Did they knock off wires or a ground to the house...a house already a danger zone?
Candus' first tact was to take to social media looking for "clues" as she feels it has something to do with the disappearance. It's likely she's followed some of these type cases in the past as she noted the case of Boswell.
Also, it was headline making when the teens had a elderly man swatted who died of a heart attack because they wanted him to give up his Twitter handle, IIRC.
It's not secret the "US" and "We" used in many a statement demonstrates the criminal rings mindset as they escape blame for many crimes they commit against others.
Fortunately, the teen got 5 years for that death which isn't nearly enough. Hopefully his parents had to lose everything, too, and got time for not caring for their offspring.
The same penalities should be enacted against these mommies who care nothing about taking care of their own children but instead focus on someone elses.
It seems the viewing of the inside of the Wells home has given them some type of peace as they feel they can now rule over the residence of another...which is their primary goal in most cases. These are Soviet stlyed criminal rings masquerading as do-gooders.
They now know there's someone worse off than themselves. Ooooh, what a great feeling it must be for them!
It is doubtful the Wells even suspect they are being set up by the very person they befriended. That is shown in his video when he asked her what the odds were of Summer being abducted. She didn't get it.
Most don't. They think they are special and that person is there to help them and be on their side. We've seen it time and time again. The Deorr Kunz case is most notable. The sheriff cleared them until the Feds had their input...that almost always results in a "reality show" type scenerio and the people mourning are expected to act like some seasoned soap-opera star.
I doubt some homicide detective from California is looking out for anyone other than hiself. And, since he does primarily cold cases, why is he interested in a missing child whose case is not nearly cold yet?
Another group of New York cops are chatting it up over the case. One even knew that the grandmother got pain medication at the pharmacy. How or why should he know that?
That may explain the weird call about the mysterious child molester living on the property.
I have to wonder how long she's been on pain meds over her knee and if this had anything to do with people "sneaking" around at night.
They like to tail people like that and often employe gaslighting techniques to make them think they are crazy just like they do the victims of their terror stalking for funds and children or some other Noble cause they think their target should be totally invested in.
I found a video of a man going off on the snibblin' beotchin of the do-gooders women's association who still are unsatisfied that the inside of the shed wasn't videoed for them to nit-pick and beotch over.
He had a theory: "How 'bout this...the man doesn't want his tools exposed to the world so people can come by and steal them!"
That basically sums up their dire need to help the children.
I had a realtor ask me what was in a closet with a deadbolt on it as they seemed to think crime didn't exist in the state and everyone loved their neighbor as stated in "scripture".... I told her guns and lots of them.
We had an infestation of 1st and 2nd amendment proponents who only want to hep.
You know John, I think watching Websluts is getting better. I noticed how she squirmed at all the call in members and their "factoids" of I heard it through a friend who heard it through a friend stuff.
She merely replayed the Interview Room's footage and others commented on it. She does have an inside expert-Aimee-who became a minion in Tenn for practical purposes who knows Florida CPS laws.
Many of these fine upstanding women balk at the fact the boys went to work with him and are looking for a loophole to get him convicted of that. They'd prefer they stay home and vandalised the neighbor's sheds and invade their homes instead and monitor them be stealing mail and whatever is needed to keep the little children safe from harm.
If his tool shed held his tools, no one really needs to see it. Here's a list of potential tools need for his craft:
Ladders, scaffolding, drill,Mixers, extension cords, box cutters, floor jacks, stilts, trowels, buckets, sanding poles, tape machine, and possibly a Hopper and compressor if he did texture as well.
Not a heavy investment but enough to pawn for someone less fortunate.
In 'hep the little children' areas, they get the little children to knock the lock off the sheds. And, moron talk of the back door being locked...just more idiot crap from the useless beotches who've never worked a day in their lives....they'll come right through that lock...especially if they are from Texas.
That's why you have to decide to pick and choose whom to use the most powerful ammunition on...which is what will get you shakin' down over a third brake light being out if you don't join the crime spree.....to keep America safe that is.
Here's a list of things you won't find in his shed:
An ohm meter, conduit bender, crimps, cable cutters, fish tape, wing nuts, and a bunch of fiber glass ladders.
The man is NO electrician!
That looks like some crap that a federal agent and social worker who is infiltrated home improvement stores might pull.
They are better at setting people up than actually doing their main job...which is why gaslighting is so important to these crime solvers.
For those of you not familiar with Texans and their quest to keep up their vices, here's a short clip of some new equipment available for onlookers who want to "audit" others.
Enjoy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuvQo98h47o
Also, the murder of Missy Bevers just outside of Dallas is another example of how these DIY are totally useless...the killer was Not a construction worker but more or less a petty theif judging from the feeble attempt to break out the glass in a door while inside the church "STALKING".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuvQo98h47o
Here's a good link that pretty much sums up the case between the accused and their friends and the domestic dispute:
https://www.therogersvillereview.com/rogersville/article_fa608924-7f70-5c56-addf-90c2026e2a58.html
Considering they don't have much in the way of journalists there, some of the facts are lacking. One clearly made up time lapse-which seems to be common to the residents of the area-is how long Equuasearch has been operating. A simple search or even an introduction to a search member would have cleared that up.
It seems as if they are trying to get their "reality show" kicked off by breifly detailing the domestic dispute episode and state Mr. Wells had a black powder gun confiscated.
I doubt that. In fact, I suspect they've been watching the Texas DIY auditor show in which a convicted rapist and pedophiles carries one because he's not allowed a real gun. In one of the photos it is shown he owned a rifle.
Even the cold case detective from California apoligesd for trying to insinuate Mr. Wells was hiding in the shed while he was out there proving what a great guy he is and thanks the viewing world...yes, world...for tuning in.
He likely did a lot of editing to prove he is on their side and be an example for other wanna be detectives. We don't hear the phone call, but just his summarization of it.
Now the sheriff Dept has stated there will be no more searches unless they go through them.Apparently Equaasearch didn't report any findings...and it is more likley that will keep the DIYers with their specially trained poodles, spaniels and all other sniffers out of their county for the time being and they won't be called out on cottonmouth bites, bear attacks, and upset the large cats in the area.
OT: Summer Wells
Probably the most crucial piece of information relative to what happened to Summer Wells is whether the basement door was locked or unlocked at the point Candus was in the basement looking for Summer. If the door was locked it would mean Summer could not have left or been abducted through it, which would in terms of the narrative given by her parents change everything. This is something which is very important in terms of understanding the mind-set of Candus Wells relative to this tragic scenario. She has stated in interviews that Summer went in the house. In fact she has emphasised that she walked her over the short distance from her mothers trailer and watched her go in. She also has told us that she is sure she did not leave the house as she was outside and would have seen her had she done so.
We note both parents have constantly referenced Summer in past tense showing knowledge or belief on their part that Summer will not be coming home or seen again. They have also made statements stating their belief she was abducted. To make such statements we expect that they will have weighed all the information and knowledge that they have and drawn a conclusion based from it.
The basement door:
In order for the parents to believe that Summer was abducted from the basement they have to believe that the basement door was unlocked otherwise they would have not been able to reach that conclusion. Below is a transcript I made from the Chris McDonough interview with Candus at the Wells property where they actually went in the basement and Candus gave commentary on how it all went down.
“Yeah I come down and I searched, I looked up underneath the beds under there. Well you can’t really get under, I can’t get under there, but I looked under there. I looked under every blanket I [could] [possibly] look under. And I come over here and I looked, and I looked on both sides there, and I didn’t see her nowhere. (Candus walks to basement door) - And [then], I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not. I don’t [recall] [that]. But I know, (she opens door), [It’s hard to open], but I know I did come out here and said Summer, cause sometimes she`ll sit right here.”
Candus says – “And [then], I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not. I don’t [recall] that.”
In SA we note anything which is repeated as sensitive and the more it is repeated the higher the sensitivity connected to it. Firstly upon considering the earlier crucial point of if the door was locked then how is it possible Summer left through it? We are expecting to be told the door was unlocked or even open. Candus tells us she doesn’t “remember” if it was locked or not and we note this information is sensitive X3 to her as she uses the words “remember” and “recall” (x2) when speaking about it. This shows she needs to triple down on her statement of not remembering which shows just how sensitive this information is to her. This makes sense to us the listener as we realise that if the door was locked then this would be very problematic for Candus as it conflicts her and her husbands statements which pointed to surety of kidnap/abduction. Not remembering allows that something else could have happened. Many would say if she was lying why not say the door was unlocked to help with her narrative, but the great majority of people are incapable of telling a direct lie.
Adrian.
The majority of people will avoid telling a direct lie as it causes a lot of stress to them. If someone does lie it allows for them to be caught out later down the line if the information they have given later can be proven to be false. It is easier and safer for the liar to simply leave out sensitive information or be ambiguous in how it is delivered. Many times someone wishing to withhold sensitive information will use the excuse of not being able to remember as a way of avoiding having to commit to something. It shuts the information flow down.
The direction this case goes in is dependent on the whether the basement door was locked or unlocked. One option leads to abduction, the other brings things closer to home.
Adrian.
It's unlikely the door was locked considering the other kids were at home while they went to take Grandma to the doctor. Kids will be kids and run in and out and out in the country like that there's little reason to lock a door.
She sends the boys out to search with a walkie-talkie leaving her alone in the house I assume. If Summer is there at that time, she could have loaded her in a vehicle before she went on her hunt elsewhere.
Wonder if they had cadaver dogs on the vehicles and in the house?
Judging from her choice of friends such as Ally and her 15 year old know-it-all Hunter, I'd say she made a poor choice on what to do next if she did find Summer "just gone".
Hunter's intrusion is over the top in my opinion. And, for these ignorant mommies applauding his behavior...that's over the top, too! Waaay out of line. I can't help but wonder why they think children should rule over adults...unless they are children like themselves and their ramblins.
Now they think she is a good mom since they've seen the inside of her house. I can only imagine they identify with her. Even an unskilled person can clean something.
These are the type of women who train their kids to stalk and steal from others...betcha dollars on donuts. Some of these creepy mommas even applaud a dog ghost hunting session though they only want to main and injure others fleeing sudden death.
It takes a certain caliber of a human to condone their actions.
These people aren't nearly a threat to society as the voyers Hawking their wares on them.
Furthermore, that "suspicous" truck gets more suspicous by the minute. The more they describe it, the more it sounds like it was pieced together from a salvage yard. One thing is for certain: It was tracked back to 1010 Ben Hill Road
No liscense plates.
Something I learned from a friend who took a course in psycology, and it's kinda funny.
She says whenever someone rolls their eyes up in their head like Candus did, they are a mastermind. She caught me doing that and said her dog does that, too...right before he bites. The dog is such a Mastermind that he once locked her husband out of his truck and then called the cops on him.
I did that right before they broke into her house and left their calling card. These people are vicious in their efforts to force others into their fake charities and causes. I was thinking of a way to snipe out the hacker while the she could cover the theivin' whores working with him.
Adrian, Candus said to Chris M, of the boys, they were “actually” x 2 all sitting at the kitchen table watching tv, and:
“they were all locked in - nobody could get in, nobody could get out, that kind of thing…”
It’s around the 13.25 min mark in the interview at the home.
The boys were locked in to the house when Candus, her grandmother, and Summer were out. Did they have reason to believe someone would try to get into the house - as she puts “nobody could get in” first? We’re they anticipating someone might try to enter the home?
The boy H claimed Don called Candus while they were out and said someone was on their property trying to take the kids?
Candus said when she left the house that morning the boys were sleeping and watching television. Were they in the basement, watching the larger tv, in the parents bed? Well, they could not sleep on the kitchen chairs while watching the small tv.
Maybe they had instructions to stay inside and not unlock the doors, maybe they just discovered they were locked in - they could have known how to get out. Don said the door was shut and locked, but if he was at work, he could not know that for sure. Candus doesn’t commit to knowing, yet she says they had been locked in - so presumably the door was locked when she left with Grandma that morning. Maybe she really doesn’t remember if it was still locked.
I do not know if it is true that CPS was due to take the children into care the day Summer went missing, but that is doing the rounds. If so, it could account for the boys being locked in so they could not be taken. Probably they would know where a key was kept, or how otherwise to get out.
Candus unpacked groceries, went to Grandma’s, did laundry - no mention of her going to the basement before going down to look for Summer.
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Why would Candus bother to walk Summer to the house from Grandma’s - so short a distance, when her intention was to leave her in the house more or less unsupervised, anyway? Maybe she did walk her over, but to make sure Summer went down to the basement, rather than just to see her into the house? I’m wondering if she was sent down, rather than wanting to go down - hard to imagine anyone choosing the basement over playing outside on a nice day. Would make more sense of Candus escorting her between Grandma’s and the house. Sometimes people make it difficult to believe what they say - I could believe Candus walked Summer to the house to make sure she went into the basement, but not that she would walk her such a short distance just to make sure she went into the house. It’s not as if Summer is a toddler who needs to be taken from door to door when they are so near - she might have needed to be persuaded to go down into the basement, though, if really she went down there?
It's most likely a rumor that CPS had plans that day and the Wells family is so smart to have known about those plans beforehand. They may have scheduled a welfare check for the day, but that being the case, you'd think she'd at least tried to tidy up a bit.
The lock is mentioned alot. Most likely because after the DIYers movie makers started coming around one would feel unsafe and want to lock their doors whereas before it most likley wasn't a priority.
There's also some blue line gaslighting in one of their videos where the former detective tries to convince his donating audience that the lower level door had a store-room lock on it. That's a lock that locks automatically and needs a key to unlock it. Highly unlikely on a residential door especially one with kids inside as it would be a constant pain to get back in the house. You'd find these on closet doors like where cleaning supplies are kept, bathrooms, and other areas that were restricted to some people.
The upper dead bolt was NOT keyed on both sides which is favorable considering the glass nearby. Security was never their main concern.
It's not Texas where you have to have an alarm, two phone lines, major deadbolts and steel bars running across the doors and traps around the property.
Someone has dug up that another daughter went missing in 2017. This daughter was in foster care at the time. Her name is Candus, too. (Wonder if that's Candus the third?)
Along with her sister who's never been found, it sounds like a common event for these people.
The young 14 year old had ran away from her foster home but was found later.
These people are clearly negligent and have a lot of baggage that is coming out online, too. Mr. Wells sister (or step sister claims he molested her for years) up until he was incarcerated.
All that together makes an abuduction all the more unlikley.
Sadly, in today's world with what people use to hold over others with the use of the Internet, it can also make it all the more likley.
Except for one thing...they had problems getting reception in the area.
These people are prime steak for the gossip mongers and cheesy reality show types.
The fact that one of these "investigators" called up family members reminded me of my own terror and how three women called a parent to inquire over a divorce that had happened appx 40 years prior. These people intend to find something to use against their target of and when they are unsuccessful at making you the corpse of their shitshow.
That said, they would have to set their sites on easier targets such as this family.
A common denominator---CHURCH.
These criminals like to use scripture and proselytising literature in their terror rackets leaving them behind on jacks (tire ripping is their main means of vandalism), in the home to let you know you're being "WATCHED" and often go after friends and relatives.
It's the God vs Satan shit part of their shitshow as they leave decpaitated animals and mail death threats filled with powder.
Unfortunately, in the state Ilived in it is merely considered fun and games.
I fled for my life. After being drugged and someone elses' key out on my key chain I didn't think I'd survive another 6 months and calling the cops wasn't an option...everyone must participate in the fake charities and causes.
That's a military operated terrorist state.
You only need to watch a little of rotten runny c**T TV to see how this could happen and take note of the melamanical antics of the PIs and cops who profit from the terror.
The tin-foilers are the worse as they've always got the "inside" information on almost everything. They are legends in their own minds.
If they'd put a bullet between the InfoWars mouthpiece eyes and a pipe bomb in ever member of more than higher top secret Midwestern gang bangers autos and drag these theivin' mommies out of their homes and put one in the back of their heads, this crap would stop.
They still intend to toss their kids in the middle of the street and expect everyone to take care of them....even if they are now blocking off the Interstate to cut donuts.
That's the football culture mindset.
Even a routine traffic stop turns into a shitshow. The creep that stopped me over a third brake light tossed my vehicle for weapons and drugs...without a warrant and without telling me why he stopped me. He used my key to access my console and then started rearranging items on the back floormat.
I looked in and saw what he was doing-he placed a rusty knife, a padlock, and a coil of rope together on the mat- so I asked if he had a trash bag and I could help him as I had other things to do.
His crap wasn't going over as well as he thought it might.
Everyone is guilty of something if they don't pay up.
One member of their extortion racket unleashed the only trained officer they had on the force on my moving sale. People were clutching their chest and running out of fear.
I wish now I had kept the thing and left them wondering why it was there in the first place.
They take up for each other.
Time stamped:
Q: Which is Sum.. wheres Summers bed.?
CW: Oh, this is in the basement
CM: Got it ok
CM: So what happens when she comes in, the boys where playing where?
CW: The boys are actually sitting here.
CM: OK
CW: They were actually sitting right here watching tv.
CM: Ok. So they're at the table watching Tv.
CW: They were all locked in nobody could get in nobody could get out.
https://youtu.be/fsPzpkDk4ag?t=2446
She lies, and the cold case detective swears to it....it gives them time to spread the donations.
It's gonna be one of those "it puts the lotion in the basket" type drills for a while.
I think I'll wait for the cheesy NASA photos and and perhaps a Marine Corp drill since he used that analogy of getting up that little Hill as an abductor scenerio.
He also mentioned a potential suspect list such as satellite communications person, tree trimmer, utilities person, and anyone that would need access to the easement.
That's how these shitshows operate. Especially the satellite communications.
It's easy to garner a tad bit of her personality when she claims she told her mother that picking flowers at a state park is illegal. Typical narcoslob gaslighting and paranoid producing lines being drawn.
It's all or nothing with the entire crew.
Her friends stated after a pool incident, she made the boys lay on hot concrete-which was abusive. Soooo, that "friend" decided to take matters into her own hands, dumping the pool water out so no one could play AT ALL.
That's how these people operate. Every dayum one of them.
My way or the highway!
Kinda like the gaslighting antics of the cop that stopped me over a third brake light infraction after being rear ended at appx 50 mph.
I just wanted to ask him: Do you really think you're gonna be able to send me to the penetinary over a third brake light being out? Go ahead and impounded it...I'll just walk over to my friend and realtor's house and get a ride home. They are sick of you, too,always sitting in their drive and flinging cigarette butts out near a line of dry cedar trees.
Narcoslobbery gaslighting!
That's how the psycobabblin, theivein' "hep the lil children" came to concoct their "I can't close my tailgate crap on this blog.
I wouldn't let the idiot open my tailgate out of not knowing if it would close again after the impact.
They want to take over body shops in the area with their insurance crap and tell people where to purchase items and when to do so.
They didn't get to far entering an oil workers house as he was already retiring and it was unlikely they'd be able to get any of his contracts either.
OT Summer Wells – use of “actually”
I looked at the clip and there is one word missing from the transcript which is crucial in understanding the meaning. The word is “No” – I have added it in below:
CM: So what happens when she comes in, the boys where playing where?
CW: [No], the boys are actually sitting here.
CM: OK
CW: They were actually sitting right here watching tv.
CM: Ok. So they're at the table watching Tv.
CW: They were all locked in nobody could get in nobody could get out.
Chris asks the question – “the boys were playing where?” The first word Candus says in reply is -“No” - which tells us she is refuting something Chris said to her. Looking at the language it is likely she has misheard Chris and thought he said “the boys were playing [there]”. In the video you can see Chris is making a hand gesture when he is asking the question which she may have misinterpreted leading to her hearing "there“ instead of where” (the brain drawing that conclusion)
This is why she uses the word “actually” as she is comparing the location she thinks Chris has given (“there”), against where they actually were.
Adrian.
You know that statement is not true by merely looking at the locks. The kids could get out if they wanted. She was likley warned to Lock the doors and did not.
Even the shed is accessible.
The call about the child molester prior to the girl going missing in an indicator of something.
To drive like a bat out of he!! for 40 minutes must mean he was far away at work.
He must have been tipped off or was involved in some capacity.
They are familiar with Facebook rings which most these predators are mostly not using. It's doubtful they are too savvy on WIFIintrusions or the dark web either.
Thank you, Adrian
As it turns out, this Jose Roman is a sex offender from Utah. Considering the mother is from Wisconsin or Minnesota, it's most likley Jose was Mr. Wells friend and not Candus'.
Considering Wells was incarcerated for drugs in that state and also accused of molestation by a family member, he most likely had reason to threaten Candus after the domestic dispute....
"She made a serious mistake"
How serious?
Hia arrest record has him listed as other under race/ethnicity, but judging by his appearance and fake names he is likely a Mexican/Latino type. His tattoos put him in the same category as Wells in that he has Jesus and praying hands on his tummy and other gosh-ollip to cement is love for drugs, alcohol and praying he gets his hands on some more children.
Even Tim Miller tells about his getting drunk, snorting Coke and putting Jesus in the hearts of suspects.
That's how they roll.
It's for this reason many of the drug rings attack people who do attend church and try to force them into their rackets. Not only is it fodder for their shitshows, but also an excuse to bait and argue over their idea of the "perfect" Christian who won't blow their friggin' heads off.
If they are attempting to pull that apocolyspe type drill, then at least the first horse got away.
OT: the Wells
Thanks, Adrian, for the breakdown of Candus’ use of “actually” . I had worked that out by this evening, after l listened through again.
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I suppose you could find it better to let all your kids sleep together in a tiny windowless dungeon, also known as “the playroom”, accessed through a hidden door and perilous stairway, for up to thirteen years, rather than sell some of your land - or all of it, and buy a place with bedrooms and windows - but why?
I wonder when the basement door leading to the outside was added - maybe it was always there. The whole house is already a hazard without them locking the kids in for hours.
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Maybe Candus said they were “planting flowers” because it sounds more mumsy than “repotting cactuses”, same as “playroom” sounds more mumsy than “dungeon”.
I wouldn’t have wanted to repot a cactus when I was five - horrible prickly spiny things for little hands.. Candus already got to that - Summer arranged the little rocks and put Chase on the Case and Rubble on the Double in there. Maybe...
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If Candus is lying about walking Summer to the house, and planting flowers, and doing laundry, and all the “normal things” round the house they “normally” do, is it only because she wants to portray herself as a good mother? If she is telling lies around her missing daughter in order to look like a better mother, why then invite Mike D into the dungeon?
I can only think she wants people to know how Don made them all live. He could have sold up, moved them to a better house, or sold some land, bought a decent trailer for them to live in while he worked on the house, if he wanted to stay put.
It’s all so strange. What is it?
This wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t have that dungeon?
See what a great job Don made of creating bedrooms down here - look at the two foot wide bunks?
This is the windowless playroom Summer was eager to come down to, to play with all her toys?
I’m obviously lying - is it to late to change anything?
Other.
Hey Jude,
You are forgetting the man is an alcoholic with drug abuse added to that disorder. Not only that, he likley isn't very smart either. It also takes two people to make a place livable and for any woman to think all they've got to do is sit on their arse and gossip, watch TV and/or rule over the neighbors affairs is as much a disorder as substance abuse.
She did little to nothing. That's easy to see.
He seems sneaky, jealous and unpredictable. The jealousy might make her feel wanted.
We they speak, they or he at least, re paraphrases her narrative. I think he wants to monitor her words. She was likely raised in an abusive home and it is the norm for them.
They are likely proud of what they've built though their skills are lacking. At least they tried. It takes no real skills to get that crap out of the kitchen and learn to cook a meal and maybe even grow some vegetables to help with the grocery bills. Many coupon clip to save money if they aren't earners. She just seems listless. Maybe it's a medical problem, maybe it is drug abuse. No one can tell but a doctor.
BTW, kids don't know how bad a house they live in unless someone points it out. Often, they don't even know they are being mistreated if it's all they know.
I'm listening to the silly women of Websluts and they are extremely biased yet give high fives to each other. It ridicoulous.What's worse, they beleive the heroism of a 15 year old know-it-all who wants to rule over adults-or those that should be adults though there aren't really any in this group.
Anonymous said...
Hey Jude,
I'm listening to the silly women of Websluts <<(i guess thats not a typo, hahah) and they are extremely biased yet give high fives to each other.
Hi
I got timed out because i had the audacity to question chris's interviewing skills.
He was asking a question then interrupting.
He was asking leading questions.
He was feeding her answers.
He would ask a question with his own answer before she even tried to reply.
He was interpreting (without clarification) before knowing what she was saying, and on it went.
I suggested he invest in "Analytical Interviewing" and i was banned from posting for a week. Hahahaa
But, yeah John, it was not a typo.
These women condone children spying on others and telling lies as long as they report back to them all the while actively denying the target of their affections any constitutional, human, or civil rights.
They changed their opinion after another youtuber, a male by the name of hughes, pointed out the obvious-in every tale, the 15 year old is the hero like a vintage detective show.
Or comic book character if you will considering the area where the "hippie chics" live.
They are permissive, irresponsible by their own words choices, and to hell with the rest of society...they help children.
It's kinda like people who won't keep their dogs in or get them vacinated for rabies and other diseases. Eventually they pack up and destroy bystanders often ripping the apart limb by limb.
Thus is the saga in America today.
I heard Portland Oregon looks like a war zone and briefly saw the fallout of some Seatle episode. I didn't listen too long, but the mayor was expecting a 'Summer of Love' while the bullet holes appeared to be about 2 inches in diameter. I had to wonder what caused that type of ripping of metal on a car.
These type people will luv ya to death...that's the plan.
Now some outfit out of New York has created an app for vigilantes in which anyone can be stoned to death, put in prison for any reason, or merely terrorised until their health give out.s
That's a plan, too
The kid knows that Mr. Wells wasn't at work since he called about a predatory stalker on the property as told by Candus. What he doesn't fill in with his critical thinking details of the "premonition" type crime is whether or not the Wells boys had another phone in which to report the "stalker" to their father.
It's safe to assume this is likley a homosexual predator if that actually occurred so why take the girl?
Why bother with facts when you are a superhero?
Also, this "getting tomorrow's news today" is a common tactic of these human trafficking rings. It's part of their shitshow debut.
Here's the latest on Equaasearch's findings:
https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/summer-wells-tn/equusearch-midwest-issues-statement-regarding-last-weekends-search-for-summer-wells/
Please note they mention this ghosterly red/maroon Tacoma with the ladder racks and white buckets in the bed again. That is contrary to a previous report that it was found in another county with no plates but a VIN check LED them back to a neighbor nearby.
Candus claims there's no such address.
I don't think they check ID and living quarters when registering a vehicle, do they?Sounds like that's another law they plan to enact.
OT:
Hi, John,
That is not my post about Websleuths, etc.
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I’m not surprised you were put in time out, your critique probably failed the “be kind”, or “be classy” test - they do have a lot of moderators, maybe they are just too enthusiastic or over-protective to allow “negative” feedback. If you had added some hearts and praying hands emojis it might have slipped through. :). I understand your criticism, but also Chris M’s position - it’s not his role to *interrogate* Candus - he wants to engage her, and he did. People wouldn’t be nearly so willing if he was too incisive, less kindly. It’s still very early days, and he looks to be getting some flack - probably his school reports said, “strongheaded”. :)
Well, you can’t be tidy with six in the family and no cupboards or cabinets, it’s not do-able- plus having a trash man would help. You’d have to give up on the house somewhere along the line if your man wouldn’t even hang a few kitchen cabinets, or let someone else do it, and you had four kids, nowhere to put their clothes or stuff, slept in a miserable cellar, had twenty howling dogs, scrap metal for flowers, and all in the middle of nowhere. There are signs of someone having a go at organising clothes and belongings, but there is nowhere to put anything.
It’s a beautiful area - You probably wouldn’t want to stay inside there if you could get out. You’d buy takeaway if your kitchen was just surfaces covered in stuff which could be in cabinets, if you had any. It’s so basic.
Addiction issues won’t have helped, but it’s not so that addiction has to be the cause. Well-off addicts don’t live like that. Candus says she is not an addict, but she has been in the past. I don’t think Candus is a hoarder, but it’s going that way - there’s nowhere to put anything - anyone would be defeated by the problem, sooner or later. At least they knew early on that Summer couldn’t have hidden in a closet.
I agree Candus seems listless, and she has a slow gait for one so young.
Hey Jude
Hi
Chris i agree, was very engaging, he has a soothing and calming voice. Another thing i noticed, however, was his body language. He towers over CW which can be intimidating (although she didn't seem to be) and can put people on the defensive, he kept putting his arms akimbo on his hips making him larger, add in wearing sunglasses (my bug bare of mine, i hate it when the military address the troops wearing them unless they have eye issues) i just don't thing it was wise. When i'm talking to someone i politely ask them to take them off or turn away from the sun. It can come across as being shady (pun intended lol)
I know it wasn't an interrogation but what i mentioned above can still be employed without coming across aggressive. I find myself using it all the time. It not only shows you're listening, you also get the most information.
Most people who live in rural areas would take a 50 gallon drum like the one in the yard and burn their trash...if it's permissible in their area.He's a drywaller so framing in a little closer would not be much work for him and getting some used doors from remodelers in the area would likely suffice. It's clear they don't steal.
Typically people in the trades know others in the trades.
The toilet paper definitely doesn't belong in the kitchen-which does have cabinets-unless they put the crapper in there, too.
All those animals running in and out are bound to have fleas (which causes plaque and other diseases) and are unlikely not given required shots such as rabies which are often carried by wildlife such as racoons, possums and other animals. Their heart may tell them to keep them, but in the end these dogs are likely endangering them.
They can give the shots themselves. Most farm stores have the vacinations available for DIYers.
Much is made over the Lock situation and I really don't understand why. The kids were there and could have unlocked them. If there was a serious predator, then the locks are also a moot point as they typically come right through them.
Those monitoring the trades will often inspect the jobs after they are completed to give their approval. I had one manager tell me I left the lock to the game room unlocked at a complex when I knew damn well I did not. That's part of their shitshow, too.
Thanks, John - those are all good points - I didn’t notice the body language, but I did wonder about the sunglasses; I like to see who I am speaking with - it puts you at a disadvantage when you don’t know if there’s any eye contact. A bit like the burka - they can see you but you can’t see them. I am going to get some sunglasses. Fair’s fair.
OT - They probably do burn their trash, as the trash man stopped calling, and there are no wall cabinets in the kitchen - but if there are some,then obviously not enough - I didn’t see any.
Tradesmen never do the outstanding jobs at home, and they don’t like anyone else to do them either - it’s maybe against their religion. They just fill up the house with their tools and lumber instead. Probably not a problem out there for Don, plus he has a shed - plenty of storage for his stuff.
The red “For Sale” drum is most likely for putting out near the road when they have a truck to sell, and other times for trash burning as it’s near the kitchen door, though some prefer that Summer dancing in front of the drum, in the rain, was an advertisement, which to me seems so unlikely.
Anonymous said...
“Much is made over the Lock situation and I really don't understand why. The kids were there and could have unlocked them. If there was a serious predator, then the locks are also a moot point as they typically come right through them.”
I think the basement lock is important in terms of how Candus discovers it. Candus places Summer in the house at the time of her disappearance. She also states she doesn’t believe she could have come back out through the kitchen (main door) as she would have seen her do so. How Candus found the basement door is crucial to understanding and playing out that scenario –
If she found the door “unlocked” it allows for:
A: The door was unlocked - Summer unlocked it and left through it under her own steam never to be seen again.
B: The door was unlocked – Summer left through the already unlocked door under her own steam never to be seen again.
C: The door was unlocked – A predator entered through the door and abducted Summer.
If on the other hand Candus found the door locked:
D: The door was locked – Summer didn’t leave the basement through it and no one entered through it and abducted her.
Candus in her interview with Chris said the following while in the basement:
“Yeah I come down and I searched, I looked up underneath the beds under there. Well you can’t really get under, I can’t get under there, but I looked under there. I looked under every blanket I could [possibly] look under. And I come over here and I looked, and I looked on both sides there, and I didn’t see her nowhere. (Candus walks to basement door) - And [then], I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not. I don’t [recall] that. But I know, (she opens door), It’s hard to open, but I know I did come out here and said Summer, cause sometimes she`ll sit right here.”
The Order:
We have the luxury of having more than just her language; we also know what the basement looks like. When you come down the stairs you can go left or right to enter the parents room or Summers room. There is no door to go through to get from one room to the other, it is open to walk into either and the access is large. Put yourself in the mothers position. When you come down the stairs you go into one side or the other, let’s say you go to Summers side as that’s where you expect her to be. At this point you can’t see her so what do you do next? Do you start searching that room, looking under blankets, beds etc… or do you simply take a few steps and look in the other room while calling her name thus looking over the whole basement area?
Transfer that idea to a child being either in a living or dining room area (if those are the only possibilities). Do you look in both rooms first or do you go into one and immediately start looking under the furniture etc… for them? Look at the order
Candus gives –
“Yeah I come down and I searched, I looked up underneath the beds under there”
She says she looked under the bunk beds (Summers side of the room).
“I looked under every blanket I could [possibly] look under.”
Next she looked under every blanket. She hasn’t said she has moved from that side of the basement yet. Note she puts limitations on how many blankets she looked under – “blanket I could [possibly] look under”. She didn’t say I looked under every blanket or I looked under all the blankets, by adding “possibly” to her statement she allows that she didn’t look under them all. That means she is thinking about blanket/s she couldn’t look under.
Example:
“I moved all the boxes I [possibly] could”
If I had moved [all] the boxes then I would have said “I moved all the boxes”. By saying “possibly” I have shown there was a limitation to what was possible. It could be I ran out of time and didn’t manage to move them all, or it could be that some were too heavy so I couldn’t move them. More information would be needed to deduce the reason, but there would be a reason/limitation that I didn’t move them all. That’s what brought the word “possibly” into my language.
“And I come over here and I looked, and I looked on both sides there, and I didn’t see her nowhere”
In the video we see her move to the other side of the basement (the parents side) and she says she looked, and looked both sides (left and right) in the area. Here I have a problem with the order she is giving. Why start on one side (Summers) looking under beds and blankets before looking at the other side (parents) to see if she was there. She would be starting a detailed search before she has even “looked” properly at the available areas Summer could be. Common logic says you look everywhere first and then when you cant see her you begin a deeper search looking under beds etc…
Finally, and returning to the topic of the basement door Candus says –
And [then], I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not. I don’t [recall] that. [But] I know, (she opens door), It’s hard to open, but I know I did come out here and [said] Summer, cause sometimes she`ll sit right here.
I analysed the sensitivity regarding her not being able to “remember” and “recall” x2 in an earlier post so I won’t do it again here. Instead consider if she had looked in the whole basement area and visually not seen summer would she have looked out the back door to see if she had gone out and was outside first, or would we she have conducted a search under beds etc… inside first? Bear in mind she didn’t look inside properly, she went to Summers side and looked under bed/ blankets before even bothering to see if she was on the other side.
Here is another quote from Candus taken from the Warriors interview with Chris.
“I said “Summer”, and she didn’t answer me, I said “Summer, you down there?” and she didn’t answer me. So I ran down the stairs [pretty much], I was freaking out, I was like why is she not answering me. And I looked every… I just went… I… I blew up, I went everywhere looking for her cause I couldn’t find her nowhere.”
Where did she look? – “And I looked every…”
She fails to complete her statement, so we can’t conclude she looked everywhere because she didn’t say it. Next she says - “I just went…” and again fails to complete what she is saying. Next –“I… I blew up” – Stutter on “I” shows lack of commitment and note also she has used numerous pauses between her unfinished statements signalling she is having difficulty giving the information and is needing time to think about what she will say.
Adrian.
Jude, you're right. I was distracted by the mess. There are no upper cabinets. It's most likley they bought only the lower cabinets as maybe that's all they could afford. I think they may have turned the kitchen around judging from the weird wall layout and how the door enters the boys room. They have no forethought for refridgerator, dishwasher, etc. There's plenty of room for more cabinets, including uppers and a center bar in there.
Why they call that hub over the staircase a bar is unknown to me. Why not build two short walls and cap it off with an overhang if they want a bar. Or, one short wall and one tall wall?
It's their thought process.
I doubt he's been in drywall too long. It may be a spur of the moment type decision if offered the chance to do some work for someone. That happens often. Drywall is easy to learn, but hard work. He is a felon which may cause problems working at other jobs though I don't know which jobs.
Typically, a better dressed salesman will haul these felons to others homes to work. That happens all to often, too. So, I don't know why they make a big deal of it as most are a bit nutty anyway.Then there's the illegals they haul in and harbor and turn lose on society...for "God" of course. There's where a lot of the trafficking comes from.
They do have what appears to be conduit as closet rods. Cheap and effective. It works. Great job! They probably run out of money before they get any one room completed. It seems they've tried to enlarge it as their family grew. Four kids are costly, too.
You can tell they want the kids to have things such as the motorbike and other toys and clothes she finds at yard sales.
I haven't heard of him running an auto sales out of his driveway...yet. Hope he didn't sell the Tacoma they are looking for...these are typically owned by the producers of the shitshows.
The order is a great point!
I would have looked outside first after not finding her in the room before I did the tidous task of bending to look under beds, blankets and boxes.
However, judging from their place they don't do anything in an orderly fashion so I'd just toss that out the window.
It's also possible that the door was locked (lower entrance lock) yet the door not shut firmly enough for the plunger to latch. There appears to be a piece of weatherstrip hanging down which could hinder the alignment of the door and the lock.
If you twist the knob, it's locked. If you push the door, it opens.
I don't know if she did something to her and I don't think anyone else does either at this point. Getting three kids to lie at the same time would be more difficult than straightening out that mess at that house. They were there, so was grandma.
Blogger frommindtomatter said...
yes, Candus going right to looking under the bed / blankets would mean she considered her missing or abducted before she knew she was missing or abducted. This is close to admitting guilty knowledge.
Or, playing hide-N-seek.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Or, playing hide-N-seek.
I don't think the mother played hide and seek and I think the children were afraid of her. note, she said that it was unlike Summer not to answer when called.
A reason to call it a bar might be if there was a lock on the little door behind it. It appears just a cupboard - the stairs down were unexpected. I don’t know if there is, or ever was a lock on Don’s bar which leads to the basement, but you would be likely to put a lock on a home bar where there are children in the house.
His comments about fearing Summer was locked in a dark basement makes me wonder if she, and the other children, were ever locked into the basement. Candus said the boys were in the kitchen, and they had been locked in while she was out. Maybe they were previously locked into the basement, or some in the basement, if she or they left them at home and it wasn’t safe to leave all four together.
Why would Candus want Summer back upstairs just a couple of minutes after she had gone down? A latr addition to the account, to help her do laundry because the boys each have sixty pairs of pants, and so they could do all the normal things they normally do around the house. Maybe they don’t normally do normal things around the house. Nobody needs sixty pairs of pants unless you never do laundry and just keep buying more instead.
It doesn’t make sense - did she go in, call for Summer, go down to the basement and find her just gone, or did she go in, call for Summer to help her do laundry because the boys each have sixty pairs of pants, then do all the normal things they normally do round the house?
Candus cannot keep her story straight, so whatever she says is not likely to be how the mid to late afternoon was really spent. She’s trying to account for missing time which her first version of events didn’t adequately cover.
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Could Don, in the interview where he articulated his quite specific fears for Summer, actually be comforting himself, and/or reproaching Candus, about what Summer isn’t suffering any longer?
Jude, I thought about her being locked in that room, too. However, it's clear they can get out...at least now that they are older.
I wonder where the bathroom is? It isn't shown in the video and the PVC running on the side of the house makes me wonder more.
60 pairs of pants each is too much even for a clothes horse. Maybe altogether.
Only so many will fit in the washer so why let it pile up?
Don has taken to Facebook after being told to stay off it to blast people...yesterday.
He now claims the "professional searchers" are making fun of him. I can't imagine Equaasearch doing that for any reason. Unless he is depending on social media where fake accounts and names can be made and used.
He is upset they didn't block off the roads. At that time they didn't know that she didn't just wander off. He also mentions a man he'd fired the day before as a suspect. That's way out there for retaliation unless he drove a truck like someone called in spotted around the time of her disappearce.
Wonder if he paid him? Wonder if he had a habit of not paying people? They might steal tools but not people.
Also, a lot of people like him get stiffed, too. That may contribute to why their remodel plans get nixed before they get too far. Also, the pandemic has been hard on everyone and likely worse on those already struggling with children to feed.
Even the teen that had the older man swatted over a Twitter handle also stalked his daughter by sending pizzas prior to his death. Unfortunately, that's how the new generation operates. It doesn't even take an infraction against them, merely not doing what they want warrants a death sentence.
That's another reason I find H's story suspicious and why he thinks he has Dominion over the conversations between a husband and wife.
It’s strange though, how Don immediately claimed abduction, rather than consider that Summer must have wandered, which would be more likely, even if she never had previously gone further than her swing.
Candus not having a believable story might be because she had assumed Summer was in the house with the boys when she wasn’t - why not just say so, though, if that was so. Maybe she feared the boys would be taken into care if she admitted negligence, as CPS was already interested in them.
Don, grandmother, and Candus all recite the same story which begins with planting flowers, Summer having a piece of candy, Candus walking Summer to the house, etc, which seems a rehearsed script - and there aren’t even any flowers. I wouldn’t bother repeating that unlikely sounding story if I were them, I would say, I don’t know where my daughter is - I thought she was in the house, but she was not. Summer is not the priority. It’s Candus trying to convince that she wasn’t negligent, and to pass responsibility onto the boys.
It begins with the flowers. Did Candus and grandma take their eyes off Summer at the swimming hole because they were distracted looking for the flowers which grandma wanted, and which Candus said she told her not to pick because it was illegal? She wasn’t getting done for that. Did they go for a walk? 911 was apparently told the mother had gone for a walk.
Candus said in her first interview: “ I don’t go on walks around here, or runs because I’m scared of the bears and snakes - and even the cayotes that are around here.”
She repeats “around here”, which makes it sensitive. Did she go for a walk in the state park, and leave Summer in the water? Summer went straight for the water, Hunter, she said, ran off into the woods. She also said she and grandma walked down to the water, Summer in front of them
She said, standing next to her car, that she always went there - maybe she was comfortable that Summer was okay for a few minutes in the water?
Elsewhere she said she had let Summer out of the car to play.
Seems strange to take grandma walking with a bad knee straight from ER - I’m not convinced Grandma would even have got out of the truck, but maybe her knee wasn’t so bad and she could manage. H pointed in a different direction, where the path was flat, more a little road through the park, for location of the flowers - Candus identified the place where the flowers had been as near the waterhole.
As far as i'm aware it is yet to be confirmed that Don was at work that day. We don't know (if he did) what time he left for work. Saying he was at work was one of the first things he wanted us to know along with the abduction theory. (McCanns)
They also say Candace passed a polygraph, again this is not confirmed by LE.
“Me and my mother and her were planting flowers” always sounded off. Summer’s name was ejected from the outset, and mentioned only in quoting herself speaking to the boys, or of Don as “Summer’s Daddy’, and curiously, “Summer was the boss of the family”, apart from which, Summer was “she” and “her”. In Candus first interview, Summer was already depersonalised, and all in the past tense.
If they really believed Summer had been abducted, there should still have been hope that early on, that she was alive and held captive, but she is clearly gone to both of them.
The swimming story also has contradictions and grandma is very quiet. I lean more toward something happened to Summer at the swimming hole when she was out of Candus’ view - if that is how that day really unfolded. We don’t know the timeline or dates on which the video and photo were taken, only when the video was unloaded.
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It’s strange that Ally said she saw Summer in the truck, and asked if she could wake her, and Candus had said no, but Candus said to Mike D that Ally didn’t even come out to the truck. And there’s H’s gran advising them all how the milk cartons were arranged; was Gran out at the truck too, greeting Candus despite she can’t stand her, or is she just keen to make sure they all get the story of the milk carton placement straight, whatever it is?
I wonder when H told Ally that Summer was alive in the truck. And if Ally only questioned that when she knew Summer was missing, or did she have doubts when she saw her and ask H soon after Candus drove away? Most people wouldn’t ask to wake a sleeping child without good reason - so did she have concerns, which she now denies? 10 out of 10 Summer was alive, she said - but how can that be if she now doubts it? If you were that certain then, wouldn’t you be equally certain now? Reasonably, you wouldn’t have expected Summer to be dead, but reasonably also, why would you ask to wake her?
Why is Candus saying Ally didn’t come out to the truck? It would be to her advantage if
- as seems, Ally is confirming that Summer was alive.
Summer is not the first person in the family to disappear without a trace.
With a private "disposition", there are no funeral expenses.
Don has a lengthy rap sheet even extending into Texas for drugs-under an alias, burglary, more drugs, domestic violence there, fugitive from Justice and who knows what else.
Why the LOCK is an issue is beyond my comprehension!
This one could go either way. Either parent, or both, and maybe others to be arrested.
It's easy to see why he wants to search the neighbor's houses...they always do.
As Ally saw Summer in the truck it should be reasonable to believe that it was that day upon which something happened to Summer, either at the swimming hole, or at home, but none of it is quite as any of them have said, and now Candus claims that Ally didn’t even come out to the truck.
Is it interesting that the only point at which Candus has become somewhat animated throughout all this is when she asked Chris, “ Are you crazy?” Did she really deny there was anything going on between her and H, or did it just sound that way? A plain indignant “no” would have been less defensive than questioning his sanity for asking a question she might have anticipated as it has been rumoured throughout.
Candus did say that you could lose track of time when you were trying to enjoy yourself. Maybe not too much to enjoy about not picking flowers in the state park - and she didn’t go swimming. She bought vapes, but doesn’t say if she vaped. She does seem to have enjoyed making TikTok videos, and she did make the one of Summer at the swimming hole. Maybe she became absorbed in editing the video and adding music, and forgot about Summer, lost track of time.
When Candus said you could lose track of time when you were trying to enjoy yourself - Don made a growling sound.
Was she taking grandma to the hospital, and doing errands, intending to be out only a short time, or was she trying to enjoy herself? She said she hadn’t planned to go swimming, was only going out for a short time, yet she also said she had dressed Summer in her swimming outfit before leaving - though it looked more a sundress. Maybe there really was no intention for them to go swimming, but Summer just jumped into the water. Ally was under the impression they were going fishing, but they didn’t take fishing gear, and later H said they went swimming. How would going out for a short time to take grandma to the hospital and run errands also be a fishing trip? Fishing takes forever. The three boys were home alone.
She let Summer out of the truck “to play” - Summer headed straight for the water. That she let Summer out means that she may not have got out of the truck herself - but there’s the TikTok of Summer and H in the water, so she must have got out, and Summer was fine at that time, from the video. It’s not as if Candus had a planned change of clothes for her, they were warmer new clothes bough for school, or as if Summer was wearing a bathing costume.
Maybe Summer was in trouble for jumping in the water - grandma didn’t like her truck seats wet. They changed her and put a cushion on the seat. But Summer was dry if they changed her clothes, so why bother with the cushion? Candus seemed a bit concerned when Chris asked about the cushion, but it may just be it is insignificant, and so she didn’t know what he was referring to.
Maybe Candus intended Summer to look for flowers with grandma, but Summer had other plans, which spoiled Candus idea of enjoying herself.
Anonymous said...
“Why the LOCK is an issue is beyond my comprehension!”
The problem with the lock:
Honest people tell the truth. When someone tells a lie the fact they have done so shows they have something to hide. Once caught in a lie things go south quickly for them. Criminals and people in general avoid telling direct lies as they wish to avoid putting themselves in a position where they get caught in one. The strategies are many to avoid doing so.
If you told me something was stolen from your basement and the only way it could have happened was if the thief entered through either the front door or the basement door, I would want to know which door it was they used. If you then told me you were outside the front door at the time of the robbery and didn’t see anyone enter or leave through it I would come to the obvious conclusion that the thief had entered and left via the basement door.
We go down to the basement and find there was no forced entry; the door was not kicked in etc… I ask you was the door locked and you tell me –
“I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not, I don’t [recall] that. [But] I know I did come out here and look “
At this point I would begin to mull over the possibilities:
Option 1: (door found unlocked after crime)
A thief came to the house and found an unlocked door, committed a robbery then left leaving the door unlocked as he found it. (Credible, it makes sense)
Option 2: (door found locked after crime)
A thief came to the house and found either a locked or unlocked door, he either picked the lock (if that is even possible depending on lock) or entered through an unlocked door, committed a robbery, and somehow and for some reason locked the door behind him when he left. The questions are - Is it possible to lock it from outside, and even if it were why would he do that? (Doesn’t add up)
Option 3:
You staged the robbery or are involved and are lying.
If you had told me the door was unlocked when you found it after the robbery then the case is closed. Everything fits with Option 1.
If you had told me the door was locked when you found it after the robbery then I have big problems with your account. I am not expecting a criminal to lock doors behind him after a crime regardless of what state they found the door in. Whether it would even be possible to do so is another question, one I wouldn’t spend too much time entertaining as it doesn’t add up.
The problem I have is that because you won’t tell me the state you found the door in I cannot make a conclusion. Even though you went through the door after the robbery you are telling me –
“I don’t [remember], I don’t [recall] if this was locked or not, I don’t [recall] that.”
When someone says “I don’t remember” or “I don’t recall” they are not saying they don’t “know” something. They are saying they don’t “remember” which places the problem on their memory. It allows them to avoid answering a question which may be sensitive and also avoid telling a direct lie. Bear in mind you first have to know something before you can forget it which tells us this isn’t something they don’t know, rather something they don’t remember. Hopefully I have given a good enough explanation earlier to just how crucial a piece of the puzzle the door being locked or unlocked is after the crime. It is through that information that conclusions can be drawn. What we find here is at the most crucial part of the story the person telling it suddenly suffers a memory failure. That could be seen as extremely convenient by many. They speaker will not commit to answering the question.
In terms of SA the answer given gives three references to not being able to remember the state the door was in. This is seen as highly sensitive as it shows the person has a need to emphasise what they are saying, they are putting a lot of effort into getting that message across. Are they trying to convince us or themselves of what they are saying etc…?
Conclusion:
If the speaker is using selective memory to avoid saying the door was locked there is a problem (deception), and they know there’s a problem hence they won’t commit to saying it. If the door was unlocked then it would be simple enough for them to say so, but if it wasn’t then they would be telling a direct lie which I explained earlier. The brain avoids telling direct lies as the penalties of getting caught in them are too serious. It’s safer and simpler to say “I don’t remember” than commit to something.
I can’t say for certain the speaker is lying, but hopefully what I have shown is that the scales would be weighted more towards deception based on analysis of the aforementioned statement and physical evidence. The “lock” is important because it has the potential to catch a criminal in a direct lie. Once one lie has been exposed criminals realise that the game is up, or is going to be in the near future.
Adrian.
I got your point! It makes sense now. Why would someone disassemble a lock and leave the pins out on the ground? To make the lock a focal point of why reporting it would make you seem crazy.
It also gels with why knock a lock off a shed and not steal anything? Or, why beat a lock off a gate? Why enter a neighbors house for weeks-via the garage door- and then when someone gets suspicous, kick in the front door?
Of course, the typical ill trained police officer with the pschobabblin' training would ask: Why would they do that? Of course if you knew that you wouldn't need them, eh?
Perhaps that is why they go to great lengths with their "KEYS".
The psychobblin' technique of projection would lead one to surmise that the reporting person is the criminal and not the criminal themself/themselves.
NO matter where you go, when someone shows up and starts photographing you, the locks seem to open on their own.
A mantra: give me liberty or give me death....choose one or the other.
Of course that is dependent upon keeping and maintaining weapons and or sanity.
Act crazy, they take away your means to defend yourself. Kill them and you still have to answer to the same processes.
I fixed my tailgate to shut properly so I didn't have to whine and give myself all kinds of mental illnesses to get the sympathy of those who think they are psychiatrists that promote this type of domestic terrorism and themselves.
Maybe the "KEY" is in who you support and call liars.
Here's my theory:
Since you can't explain the "lock" issue, then you are forced to pay those who have better theories and sell better locks and security systems because they've been in the system and know what works the best to keep up their racketeering operations.
One might ask: why would you wait to gun down a would be intruder when you know it's illegal unless they are under the roof of the dwelling?
The answer: Because I can!
Great analysis, Adrian!
I have just seen on Unjustified’s YouTube, the video which Don made to show Chris M the path from the back of the house/basement down to the road, which would maybe take less than a minute for a child to navigate - he calls it a dog trail, and it’s where Summer’s scent was lost. The Wells mail box is down there. If Summer ever went down there with her brothers, which seems likely as that’s where Candus said she sent the boys to look for her, down by the creek, she could have been taken. Someone could have hidden there and watched and waited for her.
But why believe Summer was down in the basement, anyway, when Candus said she wouldn’t have wandered away from her swing?
I think it’s difficult to know how much of Candus’ story is told the way it is to maybe justify to Don why H was with them that day, when she said she only intended to be out a few minutes, but somehow she also picked H up to go fishing. She’d want to avoid his wrath, it seems, from the restraining order she filed against him, but later withdrew.
Donald is the one with a criminal record for domestic violence, but Ally and Lesley claim Candus smacked and beat the boys, and tortured them by making them lie shirtless on hot asphalt for too much horseplay in a pool. Either parent, potentially, could have been responsible for whatever happened to Summer, though I don’t think anyone says Don was violent toward any of the children. They could be covering up an accident. What if Summer went down there to watch and wait for her daddy to return from work? Snatched, knocked over by a car or truck, maybe.
If Don didn’t want to make all the missing children the priority, rather than his missing daughter, I might believe more that he truly believes Summer was abducted - but that, along with the old photos, is just too McCann like.
I don’t doubt Don works hard, wants to put his kids on the right path by taking them to church, but he’s very controlling, and he keeps falling off the wagon.
How was he coming home from work in the red subura - he said he threw as many tools as he could into his truck before leaving work? Car or truck? That detail about throwing tools into his truck seems like unnecessary extra information. There’s lots of that, right from the planting of the flowers, when there are no flowers, IMO.
If Don didn’t want to make all the missing children the priority, rather than his missing daughter, I might believe more that he truly believes Summer was abducted - but that, along with the old photos, is just too McCann like.""--Hey Jude
Spot on girl! That was my fear...I think they will be arresting multiple people.
Wonder how long he was in Texas before being arrested?
It sounds like a similar Midwestern plan.
And, oh...I don't think he had a criminal record for domestic violence...only charges filed but not prosecuted as his wife dropped the charges. Unless there's another incident I'm not aware of.
It seems he's had issues with drugs, though nothing big time, for the last 40 years on and off as well as burglary charges filed on him.
If he's an alcoholic, and Ithink he is, he's most likely mean to the kids, too.
The friend that told that hot driveway story included she dumped the pool so they could no longer play but does not state she told the mother that the driveway was too hot for them to lay on and demand they get off it immediately.
I doubt she'd be afraid of Candus or anyone else for that matter. And losing the friendship for doing so...sounds like there's be no love lost either.
Donald Wells FB
Some interesting post from him. Imparticular, slamming Chris McDonough
https://www.facebook.com/donald.wells.7798574
The Official Wells Family Information Site.
Where The Dogs Tracked:
August 1 2021 Here is the trail that the tracking dogs took following Summer's scent. It ended at the road. - Donald Wells
"And this is where the search dog ended, so the trail goes out to there... that's it"
But that's not what he says. He says.
""And this is where the search dog ended, so the trail goes out to there...That's about it"
This suggests there is more information about "the trail that the dogs" tracked "Summers scent. Now, it may have nothing to do with Summer, but by adding in the word "about" tells us there is possibly withheld information.
https://www.findsummerwells.com/post/where-the-dogs-tracked
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