tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post1134133282004130781..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Sherry West: Mother of Shot Baby Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33380884480322917352019-01-11T18:50:40.749-05:002019-01-11T18:50:40.749-05:00Of all the analysis that has been written by so ma...Of all the analysis that has been written by so many, this is her response?<br />This could have been the best opportunity to tell the readers that she wasn't involved and had nothing to do with her sons murder.<br />She doesn't.<br /><br />After reading all comments and not having heard of this case before it would be my 'conclusion' .....this case stinks. And an innocent baby died a senseless death because of it. RIP little man you deserved better!Habundiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01826623123769885956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2142051236424816792015-01-26T12:43:42.497-05:002015-01-26T12:43:42.497-05:00As for your comment to me being the only witness t...As for your comment to me being the only witness to my baby's murder that's because there are people that testified that they didn't hear the gunshots or they didn't want to be accountable for someone else's actions. I don't blame them.sherry westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07356425180331917672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38510739487149182632013-07-26T16:50:06.635-04:002013-07-26T16:50:06.635-04:00Btw this comment thread is the best source I have ...Btw this comment thread is the best source I have found yet on this case. I apologize for typos as I am commenting from my phone.amphone2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13436701296377169379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80438815591694674602013-07-26T16:46:21.488-04:002013-07-26T16:46:21.488-04:00Has anyone ever heard of Charles Stuart? He repor...Has anyone ever heard of Charles Stuart? He reported he and his pregnant wife were shot and robbed by a black guy. He picked Willy Horton out of a line up. The wife and baby died whilw CS lived with an abdominal GSW. He bled a lot and nearly died himself. All of Boston was ready to lynch WH. My grandmother watching the news said, he was lying. We were shocked she could think that, but she said she could tell by the way he talked about the crime - like it was rehearsed. A few days later he jumped off the Tobin. He had lied. He killed his wife and baby and shot himself in an attempt to collect on the insurance. <br /><br />The only evidence I have read so far in this case is the gun shot residue on the parents hands. Analysis of statements can be very influential in deciding guilt but text messages and Face Book status updates are difficult ti authenticate. What would sway me us if ballistic were found to match the gun AND if the gun was undeniably tied to Elkins. I have not seen that evidence yet.amphone2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13436701296377169379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75428714900896928392013-07-22T11:18:05.329-04:002013-07-22T11:18:05.329-04:00"Anonymous said...
For anyone to believe..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> For anyone to believe these two punks are innocent is far fetched! Just another black on white crime swept under the rug by Zionist media. Hey wait let's forget this innocent baby that was murdered ( Hate Crime ) and focus on the Trayvon case that is so much more important since the kid is African American. You guys make me vomit!"<br /><br /><br />You are the only one making this into a racial issue. The others are analyzing statements made, not arriving at conclusions. You draw your own conclusion from the statement analysis.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04204700886014841443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28543456571240944562013-07-16T12:34:03.270-04:002013-07-16T12:34:03.270-04:00assuming that the parents are involved, the 2 thug...assuming that the parents are involved, the 2 thugs that shot the baby no matter what have to be tried as adults and given the maximum sentence, and if the parents are a part of it, they should be tried and given the death penalty, they deserve it, don't think it'll happen given the fact that the mom might be a bipolar and a mental nut case Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-72484992652663214352013-07-13T07:57:40.776-04:002013-07-13T07:57:40.776-04:00"The GBI found gun shot residue on both Sherr..."The GBI found gun shot residue on both Sherry West and Louis Santiago shortly after the killing.<br /><br />The fact that West was shot during the robbery attempt could explain why investigators found residue on her.<br /><br />As for Louis Santiago, the GBI lab report says finding gunshot residue on a person could indicate that they were holding the gun when it was fired, been near a gun that was fired, or came into contact with a surface that has gun shot residue on it.<br /><br />Police have never named Sherry West or Louis Santiago as suspects in baby Antonio's murder."<br /><br />Http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Murdered-babys-father-in-jail-on-unrelated-charge/5mU6-uadKkOD-fSX9avckw.cspxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-56434536225970455952013-07-05T03:45:44.150-04:002013-07-05T03:45:44.150-04:00For anyone to believe these two punks are innocent...For anyone to believe these two punks are innocent is far fetched! Just another black on white crime swept under the rug by Zionist media. Hey wait let's forget this innocent baby that was murdered ( Hate Crime ) and focus on the Trayvon case that is so much more important since the kid is African American. You guys make me vomit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-43367524897557059132013-04-16T13:38:25.262-04:002013-04-16T13:38:25.262-04:00I'm not positive, but I think the reward is on...I'm not positive, but I think the reward is only given after a conviction. So far, there is an indictment, so if I'm correct she will have to wait to collect. The "deal" must mean immunity from any prosecution. However, her tip did lead to an arrest and if the reward was to lead to an arrest, the money is hers I suppose.Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12801764664288923502013-04-15T00:33:16.434-04:002013-04-15T00:33:16.434-04:00"making deals" with Obley? Is it possib..."making deals" with Obley? Is it possible she did get the reward leading to the arrest? That may be what the defense is referencing, perhaps.Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-67994320723421309202013-04-14T23:08:34.837-04:002013-04-14T23:08:34.837-04:00There is a video on news4jax of Doering pleading t...There is a video on news4jax of Doering pleading to the community the day of the arrest of the Elkins sisters, "somebody out there know something" he said, "they will probably talk to somebody they trust." Please come forward and help us with this investigation, he pleaded. They have the shooter and his sidekick,the gun, the bullet or bullets, the witness(Aunt Obley)who gave shooter a ride and saw his gun in his pants, the Elkins family who lied and hid the gun, and the pastor who identified Elkins for an attempt to rob him and shot him. Not to mention the evidence they collected that is unknown to the public.<br /><br />This should be a slam dump for the<br />prosecutor. But they know with Sherry West as the only eye witness;<br />her testimony on a witness stand would give a field day to the defense. Therefore, if she is an addict, I hope they send her to a hospital unknown to the media or the public and get her clean.<br /><br />The defense is attacking Sherry with full force because she is the only reasonable doubt they have. I would hope they make another arrest real soon if they think there is one. I try to keep an open mind, but the Elkins guy and Lang do not appear like innocent kids to me.<br /><br />The Obley woman is another target for the defense, She has a criminal record as the defense put forth in one of many motions. And the defense asked for a speedy trial. The defense is accusing the DA of making deals with Obley. Someone said he is fishing but I don't think so. On the video of Obley on News4jax.com she sounded deceptive and "sly as a fox".Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39221367981954611482013-04-14T18:25:05.343-04:002013-04-14T18:25:05.343-04:00Wow, that's an interesting thought. "leav...Wow, that's an interesting thought. "leave that to the police." It's interesting that her mindset was on the purpose of self-defense. She had a nervous laugh at that moment.<br /><br />Perhaps that's why there is sensitivity on the gun--"I thought it was a fake gun." Maybe she's saying she just didn't think IT was going to happen. Was she threatened?<br /><br />Sherry's daughter says she changed her story from the baby being shot first, then Sherry being shot first.<br /><br />What if Sherry knew exactly WHY this happened, but didn't think it would happen, and that's why she keeps saying, "I thought it was a fake gun."<br /><br />Someone else pointed out that Luis admits to being there, but he'll only admit to peeking in the window. I find that curious from a personal anecdote.<br /><br />I met my current husband through his mom, who was my neighbor in a condo-style complex. She used to talk about the previous resident to where I lived, and when I met my NOW current husband, he seemed to know a lot about the previous tenant. <br /><br />I said, "Did you date her or something? Are you dating all your mom's neighbors?" lol. I think that question freaked him out, so he denied having dated her. Well. He eventually admitted to talking to her on occasion outside on her back porch, but I kept wondering why he seemed to know what the inside of her place was like (he'd say, "yeah, the last tenant was really messy). <br /><br />He said, "Well, I could see inside. We were right on her back porch." The story eventually went from "I could see inside," to "Well, she'd let me go in to get a beer." I kept pounding him, saying, I don't care if you slept with her. And so....he told me that yes. That happened. <br /><br />I joke with him that if it smells like a lie, I know it probably is a lie. I say, you went from saying "I know because my mom talked about her," to "I sat outside with her" to "I got a beer in the house," to "we sometimes sat on the couch," to, "Yeah. We slept together." <br /><br />I just wanted the truth!! I really didn't care about some relationship that happened over a year before I met him, BUT, the point is that he kept himself outside in his original story. He didn't want to let me know he was ever, really INSIDE her apartment, because he thought I'd think he was a weirdo for having dated the previous tenant. <br /><br />Louis Santiago stayed "outside" the apartment for some reason in his story, yet he spoke with Sherry. He asked if she had anything to mail, to which she supposedly said "no," yet she went to the post office anyway. <br /><br />Maybe Sherry was doing something Luis didn't want her to do. Maybe the "post office," is a symbol. Instead of saying xyz, which neither can legally admit, they say "post office." <br /><br />When I was in my early twenties, a friend of mine had this crazy sort of mom, and I always wondered why the mom was talking about bowls of cereal. "You think you're going to want a bowl of cereal tonight?" Turned out she was talking about pot. Even when mom found out that I knew, she still called it cereal. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-81947328461304460492013-04-14T17:31:24.439-04:002013-04-14T17:31:24.439-04:00Yes Bleat! And you can bet Sherry story is a doos...Yes Bleat! And you can bet Sherry story is a doosy. I watched her uncut video several times last night. She is afraid, so much so, she appears to struggle to remember what she was instructed to say.<br /><br />Her story is probably helpful to both the DA and the defense. "Crazy as a fox" in the motion by the defense. The DA has shared something very important with the defense, trust me. Sherry may have mental issues but she knows something that scares her.<br /><br />"Do you own a gun?" the reporter asked. She replied she was afraid of guns and she leave that to the police. Now why would she leave owning a gun to the police?<br /><br />If you watch both uncut video's of Luis and Sherry. Luis has all the answers ready to give, even more than what was asked. Yet, Sherry is holding back her grief so she can remember how to answer. Her story is somewhat believable without the added and subtracted details. This is one reason she seemed coached to me. Remember, Luis spoke to the media first.<br /><br />If Luis really is an informant that means he is a double agent. He lies to both the criminals and the police. Why would he pick someone with issues he described on his video to be his lover? BAIT!Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-42879533685088312402013-04-14T15:53:16.396-04:002013-04-14T15:53:16.396-04:00"The defense does not believe Sherry West'..."The defense does not believe Sherry West's story, but after reviewing the authorities, defense counsel is persuaded that Sherry West has a constitutional right to tell her story," http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Gag-order-challenged-in-Brunswick-baby-murder-case/NjGj54RCzUmry2npNwc0HQ.cspx<br /><br />It looks like the defense wants Sherry to keep talking.Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91511221759498956192013-04-13T19:37:03.811-04:002013-04-13T19:37:03.811-04:00Bleat, I'm in complete agreement with your tak...Bleat, I'm in complete agreement with your take.<br /><br />Luis used words in his video like "box" for casket and "took him out" for murdered or killed. He was quick to call himself a "statistic" from gang violence. Now why did he decide that from a random robbery? All robbers are not in gangs.<br /><br />All of this before the shooter and his sidekick was caught. Sherry on the other hand used CPR, "we lost him", ligaments and other medical terms normally used by professionals. This is not to say she is ignorant, but to say she was coached by someone who wanted the media to put certain information out there.<br /><br />Luis speaks well for someone who is just a person who lives life gracefully in a humble apartment. He mention the library twice. Why take a one year old to a library? Certainly not for him to read a book. He also lied when he said her son who was killed in New Jersey was stopping a fight. Her son started a fight.<br /><br />He knew Elkins and his family. "I don't blame them, they didn't have a good upbringing." How would he know if they weren't caught yet? Good kids commit crimes all the time. And some are brought up well too.<br /><br />Lang family bothers me too. They were quick to take him to the police not out of being good people but to try and save his but. But, I don't think they expected the outcome they now are faced with. As for the pastor who was robbed a mystery lingers. Maybe Elkins and maybe not.<br /><br />This will take an investigating reporter expetise to get a take on Luis and the pastor. There is no proof I see to prove Gough's claim that they knew each other. And because they are both Hispanic doesn't prove anything. Sherry is very scared of somebody but who? Is it Luis, the police, Obley or a gang lord? I still think she was bait and didn't know it. I also think she is being used right now. <br /><br />I know her behavior says otherwise, but even the defense say she is mentally ill or "crazy as a fox" as Gough put it. The main reason I starting thinking differently about her actions.Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-8518933339476391142013-04-13T19:27:52.074-04:002013-04-13T19:27:52.074-04:00Such interesting insight and discussion!
Luis is ...Such interesting insight and discussion!<br /><br />Luis is one strange dude. His lack of outrage towards those responsible for killing his infant son isn't reasonable. Luis forgives the killers BEFORE they were even identified and arrested. How do you forgive assailants UNKNOWN for the senseless murder of your baby? <br /><br />I'm on the fence about Sherry. Her story changes with each re-telling. <br /><br />I need to delve deeper into Elkins' family and Ms. Obley.<br /><br />OT: Why have so many comments been deleted on this thread? I wanted to review the comments about West and Santiago refusing the subpoenas, but they have disappeared. Fernnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-49612716683394982302013-04-13T16:58:09.856-04:002013-04-13T16:58:09.856-04:00Very interesting, Lesha. I wonder if Sherry knows...Very interesting, Lesha. I wonder if Sherry knows she was involved in "something," that may have lead to this situation, as in, she wasn't directly involved. <br /><br />That might explain her need to explain why she walked where she walked and when. Luis told her not to go down "that road," but she did. Why he said not to go down that road is important, I think, because Sherry says she "doesn't get out much," and Luis says he wanted her to be safe. If she only walks to the post office or to certain locations, not having a vehicle, I find it interesting that Luis would have told her specifically, ever, not to go down a specific road. <br /><br />Perhaps something else happened all together, and Sherry fears what would happen if she says anything about it. Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71513837337723202872013-04-13T16:14:03.711-04:002013-04-13T16:14:03.711-04:00As Fern discovered Luis was angry at Sherry for th...As Fern discovered Luis was angry at Sherry for the route she took that morning. He knew she was a target and he probably told her.<br /><br />In the videos of Luis he said he was watching Steve Harvey Show about a Chicago baby being murdered. Why would he mention this to a news reporter? Unless this hit home to him.<br /><br />Luis is smarter than Sherry and he was probly first to have her alone to talk to her after the police. Who knows how deep Luis is involved with crime and the police as an informant? Many time an informant is a target and Luis is an informant so says Gough in his motion. But, Gough was wrong about Sherry filing a fire insurance claim. It was a differnt person. He had to amend his motion with that correction per Insurance.net article today. Gough is defending his client and so is Lang attorney.<br />How else do you defend a person accused of murder without reasonable doubt? Blame a mentally ill person who will probably raise that doubt.<br /><br />I would bet Elkins will deliver the master mind behind this very soon and the DA is waitng for that break. That's why the DA ask for a GAG ORDER. More arrest are pending and Sherry West can then tell the truth as she know it. Luis, on the other hand, will probably have to be put in protected custody. The big fish is still out there but Elkins don't deserve a deal so the DA has to gather more evidence on whatever activity caused this horrific crime. Stay forcused on Luis, the Elkins clan, and Aunt Obley because these are some evil people. Who waits almost 24 hrs to tell police about a ride they gave to a possible murderer of a baby? Who makes up alibis for a possible murderer? Who forgive a shooter only hours later after they shoot your baby? I would bet Luis real name is not Luis Santiago. This just seem like an expected occurance to him. He had guilty tears not tears from pain.Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19222626826619817012013-04-13T15:26:36.988-04:002013-04-13T15:26:36.988-04:00Bleat, there is a video on news4jax.com with Obley...Bleat, there is a video on news4jax.com with Obley saying she is being threatened for being a snitch. This was a day or so after the arrest. Is she talking about her family threatening her or just random people?<br /><br />This is not a defense for Sherry West, but, I don't believe she is involved in her baby murder. But I do believe she is hiding something. Elkins FB page is evidence enough for me that he is more than likely charged correctly. Lang is more than just a witness too. Obley gave Elkins a ride. She had to know this guy. Why would Lang ask her to give him a ride?<br /><br />Sherry West has mental issues as stated by Luis Santiago in his uncut video. I think we should take a deep breath off of her behavior for a minute. Maybe she got caught up in a web. Neighbors and cab drivers verify her devotion to the baby. Her apartment was filled with toys and shows she was a loving mother. Just my opinion but I don't see neglect for love on her part. Maybe her behavior was by instuction from Luis and the PD. Those interviews were not of her doing someone coached her. <br /><br />I have focused on the other players more than West because it seem these are some heartless characters and SW was a target to hurt Luis (an informant for LE).Leshanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-52750129929689814192013-04-12T23:42:05.535-04:002013-04-12T23:42:05.535-04:00I find it interesting, Fern, because she says that...I find it interesting, Fern, because she says that she doesn't really know what happened. <br /><br />The lawyer said that Lane is "more of a witness." I think "more of" implies he did not directly witness the crime, or at least that's what he's saying to the attorney.<br /><br />So what conclusions can we draw from those statements? Either Lane was not involved--just happened to be on the same street when Elkins approached him,<br /><br />Or Lane is lying about his involvement in the crime and is putting the blame squarely on Elkins.<br /><br />I find it to be a very unusual set of circumstances where one kid who doesn't know another ends up getting a ride with his aunt AND is implicated in a crime.<br /><br />If they don't know each other, then how did Obley come to any conclusion that her own nephew may be involved with the death of Antonio? "f you've got something to do with this little baby, you can't talk to me."<br /><br />And... is that a typo? "You can't talk to me, I'm your auntie?" <br /><br />Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-57408983721195250102013-04-12T22:02:28.719-04:002013-04-12T22:02:28.719-04:00Bleat...got it! Thanks!
Wow...not sure what to m...Bleat...got it! Thanks!<br /><br />Wow...not sure what to make of Hunter's comment.Fernnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-8596619283141983532013-04-12T21:32:12.671-04:002013-04-12T21:32:12.671-04:00Fern, it's three paragraphs down, under the su...Fern, it's three paragraphs down, under the subheading: Suspects' grandmother: 'He's a victim.'Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-50651261513820478372013-04-12T18:19:54.896-04:002013-04-12T18:19:54.896-04:00The Bleat...
I followed the link you provided, bu...The Bleat...<br /><br />I followed the link you provided, but I don't see where Verdell Hunter states "He said that boy came up to him and said, 'I'm fixing to off you off. You a Mexican.' Because he had a hood on his head with the little thing in there. And my grandson said oh."<br /><br />Do you think it was edited out after the original article published? <br /><br />Fernnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1352672800800833602013-04-12T18:04:06.379-04:002013-04-12T18:04:06.379-04:00But when the rain started early Saturday afternoon...But when the rain started early Saturday afternoon, Wally Mathis collected all the items except for a bouquet of flowers and delivered them to Antonio’s father, Luis Santiago, who was arrested and jailed briefly after the shooting when his grief overwhelmed him and he began screaming at West, blaming her for their son’s death.<br /><br />“I’m not upset with the boys,” Santiago said Saturday of the two teenagers charged with killing his son. “They didn’t have a good upbringing.”<br /><br />He has lots of questions, but they are mostly for West. “Why did you go that way?” Santiago asked. He said he frequently told her to take another route when she walked their son in a neighborhood that has public housing projects on each end of the street.<br /><br />Does he blame West? “Hell, yes, I do,” Santiago said.<br /><br />http://www.myajc.com/news/news/anger-disbelief-grip-brunswick-after-toddlers-shoo/nW233/Fernnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-42544677021818204062013-04-12T16:38:49.525-04:002013-04-12T16:38:49.525-04:00What "little thing" in your hood makes y...What "little thing" in your hood makes you look like a Mexican? Is that what Hunter is saying? Anyone know what she's talking about?Devriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06233543034826894428noreply@blogger.com