tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post1208631040503874066..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Philadelphia House of HorrorsStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-60096896358776315312013-04-15T18:43:40.151-04:002013-04-15T18:43:40.151-04:00LOL - oh yeah, I'm evil because I think aborti...LOL - oh yeah, I'm evil because I think abortion is murder. There is something off about that perception.JenCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19678610550276904502013-04-14T23:53:59.545-04:002013-04-14T23:53:59.545-04:00Hobnob, as much as I usually appreciate your comme...Hobnob, as much as I usually appreciate your comments, this time I'm left shaking my head. Arguments such as yours, full of emotion and excuses, are the reason that some European countries (Belgium) are now looking at legislation that will allow parents to euthinize their children (doesn't give an age limit, but it's definitely AFTER birth) for reasons of disability/deformity. This is not just in cases where a child is suffering from a terminal illness, but for parents who give birth to a deformed/disabled child that would not have a "good quality of life" or would be a "burden" to care for. Arguments like yours seek to deny or minimize the humanity of the "fetus." Dehumanize them, and it's easier to kill them. (Germany and Jews ring a bell?) The utter absurdity of this trial is that babies of the same gestational age can be killed legally inside the womb in many states. If abortion is ok, then in the end, you have to accept infanticide, too. The most hardcore pro-choice people who follow the logic (actual logic, not just what makes sense) like Mary Anne Warren and Peter Singer will admit this conclusion, although most pro-choicers rely on emotional arguments while ignoring science, facts, logic, etc. Many have just had the word "choice" drilled into their heads and have consumed the kool-aid. I would have thought, based on so many of your other posts, that you wouldn't have been one to rely simply on emotional arguments lacking in substance. In this case, Gosnell wasn't skilled enough to kill the babies while still inside the womb - when many would have been perfectly legal even in his state. JenCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86083451466689455742013-04-14T11:22:06.537-04:002013-04-14T11:22:06.537-04:00Thank you for the psalm. I love the psalms. Thank...Thank you for the psalm. I love the psalms. Thank you all for your kindness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-82678018033182965802013-04-14T01:23:28.047-04:002013-04-14T01:23:28.047-04:00Anon at 5:42, your post made me cry. I'm so so...Anon at 5:42, your post made me cry. I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I can tell you of 2 women close to me who have told me the same things. I've known others as acquaintances who have, also. They all say they had no idea what it was going to be like until after they had done it, and if they had only known, they would never have gone through with it.<br /><br />You wrote, " All I can do is pray God has mercy upon me, even though I know I do not deserve it." Anon, none of us deserves God's mercy, this is why Christ took our sins on himself and paid the price for us. He gives mercy because He loves to give mercy to any who ask for it. God is love. <br /><br />I have just been memorizing Psalm 103 and I highly recommend it- it is so comforting! <br /><br />Hugs to you.<br />Lisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9088930462588797082013-04-14T01:00:25.697-04:002013-04-14T01:00:25.697-04:00This man had been carrying on these practices for ...This man had been carrying on these practices for years and no one tattled on him in all that time and apparently no one ever inspected the place until he caused a woman's death. I wonder how many abortion clinics are about the same as this one. I have heard stories. I have known women who have gone through horrors. I lost someone dear to me because she could not live with herself after having a saline abortion at 6 months. The limit of abortion to the first trimester is of no affect because it is excluded in the case of threat to the mother's health- which includes her mental health. So exceptions are made every day. No one wants to see what goes on in these places, no one wants to hear from the women who have been traumatized by the experience. No one cares, the sacred right to abortion must be protected above all else.<br /><br />The concept of abortion as a solution is a lie- it causes far deeper problems than the one it purports to solve. <br /><br />Many reading this story in the news have been pointing out the hypocrisy of our laws:<br />http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ocean-Shores-father-charged-with-murder-in-infants-death-202428871.html <br /><br />One day it is legal and a "right", the next day it is murder.Lisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53731798790406079542013-04-13T22:01:14.618-04:002013-04-13T22:01:14.618-04:00Good Lord...I just read the side box of the articl...Good Lord...I just read the side box of the article where it says that the doctor applied anesthesia to the women based on how much they could pay! Nothing could be more monstrous than the method he employed to kill the babies, but also forcing the women to suffer and be conscious during a surgical procedure is the stuff of nightmares! <br /><br />That also removes any notion or argument that this 'doctor' was performing these abortions to mercifully 'provide a necessary service' to women in need, or performing procedures for the good of the mothers health and well-being. I didn't think I could be more disgusted with this guy, but I was wrong...Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66041447625935466812013-04-13T21:08:54.386-04:002013-04-13T21:08:54.386-04:00It is like PTSD. They catch these girls when they...It is like PTSD. They catch these girls when they are young and searching for their independence. Where do kids who are not grown up yet and have no root in faith go to search for their independence? To their culture. Their parents tell them no, you can't do that, and their culture tells them, sure, do it, it's OK. They just transfer their dependency. What you want changes in life. What you believe changes. They cannot predict who these young ladies will turn into someday. It's a big deal. It is not a visit to the chiropractor, but that is how it is treated. You cannot undo an abortion. It's an extreme action and an extreme decision. Extreme decisions are risky for the maker. If you really care about these young women, you would not be so concerned about their "rights" and be more concerned about their fates. <br /><br />Even if you are pro choice, you should advocate for the young women to be shown the underside of the coin. But no, that might make them feel shame or guilt. So you just defer their shame and guilt until later, because as a woman matures, it will more often than not come. <br /><br />To one commenter above, who do you know that regrets having their children? I don't know anyone who does with the exception of the psychopaths we read about on these pages. Is this a hypothetical you are speaking of? What decent human being would look at their child and say, I take it back, I wish you weren't here?<br /><br />These young women need options and support, perhaps intermediaries with their families. Parents need eduation about how to deal with an unwed pregnant young daughter. The young women need to see pictures of what an abortion really is. They are too young to understand what they are doing. I was too young to understand what I did. <br /><br />Some young women even into their twenties are still very immature emotionally and dependent upon their parents. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2295224329604154272013-04-13T15:22:42.052-04:002013-04-13T15:22:42.052-04:00Excruciating Headache--So, right up until viabilit...Excruciating Headache--So, right up until viability huh? I understand 3 mos. and under but seriously I feel strongly about this. My son was 2 lbs. 9 oz. He didnt likw how the nasal canula felt on Day 1, made a face and reached up and yanked it out.<br />Plus, I have a friend--she is haunted by nightmares like every night 15 yrs later from her abortion. I gave anotger friend advice not to have an abortion bc I had seen what had happened to this other friend. It's like PTSD. It's taking way too much of a gamble how it's going to effect someone psychologically. The abortion industry knows this--they're destroying women's peace of mind left and right. That's wrong. They're chewing these women up and spitting them out. My friend might has well have been in some. WW 2 battle from the nightmares that still plague her.Laylanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36321055227003048522013-04-13T11:59:17.826-04:002013-04-13T11:59:17.826-04:00Oh Peter of all the horrors I have read here over ...Oh Peter of all the horrors I have read here over the years...this story has tears streaming down my face. All that I can think of is what a horrible way to come into the world. My heart breaks. Little souls.bigmtnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-85809511321337807732013-04-13T11:55:39.744-04:002013-04-13T11:55:39.744-04:00I am sick. I am pro choice.
I MISS MY BABIES.
I...I am sick. I am pro choice. <br /><br />I MISS MY BABIES.<br /><br />If my daughters found themselves pregnant and conflicted, I would advocate for adoption. <br /><br />The world can be so cruel and awful. <br />bigmtnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75281934126248292052013-04-13T10:43:22.768-04:002013-04-13T10:43:22.768-04:00Hobs says:
Can someone who believes abortion is w...Hobs says:<br /><br />Can someone who believes abortion is wrong for any reason put aside their bias to listen only to the facts of the case?<br /><br />Can someone who believes abortion is allowed in certain cases put aside their bias to listen only to the facts of the case?<br /><br />Can someone who believes in abortion for any reason as it is the woman's right to choose put aside their bias to listen only to the facts of the case?<br /><br />I don't think so, there is no grey area in such a sensitive subject, you are either pro life or pro abortion there is no middle.<br />_____________________<br /><br />Excellent post. This will always be a hot-button issue. <br /><br />I'm pro-choice. Perhaps I will burn in hell for my position. That matter is between me and my maker. <br /><br />Fernnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32316909872253673822013-04-13T05:17:08.267-04:002013-04-13T05:17:08.267-04:00There are so many quack doctor offices, some set u...There are so many quack doctor offices, some set up in neighborhoods. Philadelphia is known for an easy place to acquire painkillers and especially all different forms of diet pills(uppers). Many drug addicts, mentally-ill, and alcoholics go to these small dr. offices. They are in and out of there in 15 mins. The addict patients lie about meds they are taking, their medical history, and little questions are asked of the patient. They do as little as take their blood pressure, pay cash for their month or 3 month supply and out the door. Most are on SSID(disability) and pay with that(cash).I know a woman(mentally-ill) that would pay people a hundred bucks to take her into Philly to go to these doctors. She would go to three drs. in one day. Her family tried desparately to communicate with these drs. Telling them their daughter was mentally-ill and to not accept her as a patient.the daughter still would acquire the meds. Some listened when family members finally threatened the office of said dr. call police. I do know the FBI did come to the parents home to interview the daughter and family about a certain dr. Later the family sees in the newspaper of the office shut down and charges against the doctor...<br />You would think the patients were getting a soft pretzel or water ice, that's how quick they go in and out of these places...no to be funny, but it's true... Never under-estimate the detrimination of the addict or the dr. for that matter, both receiving what they want. Alot of these drs. are older it seems. Alot of these addicts get there infomation to these offices when they go to AA meetings, non-profit mental health centers, and other places people with those issues congregate. Sad, disgusting but true. Alot of people that do drugs do other forms to keep them going, and top it off with alcohol or those " rockstar" caffeine energy crap drinks. <br /><br />Back in the 1980's there were alot of those backdoor butchershops, like this dr, it's all about the money. He has been doing it for so long, and in the poorest of all areas. There is bad in every profession, it's ashame, much respect is lost when you run into the knowledge of these sickos and you think of the oath they take with their schooling and license. <br /> <br />JerseyJanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-76543509420572964482013-04-13T04:34:15.365-04:002013-04-13T04:34:15.365-04:00R.I.P your little angel x R.I.P your little angel x Laylahttp://www.hobnob.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4181029830942751712013-04-12T23:51:20.875-04:002013-04-12T23:51:20.875-04:00That dude doesn't even look like a Dr:/That dude doesn't even look like a Dr:/ elfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-3406950825860679882013-04-12T21:43:17.484-04:002013-04-12T21:43:17.484-04:00I support a woman's right to choose for any re...I support a woman's right to choose for any reason until viability. Arbitrary cut-offs should end since gestational age isn't the only factor influencing a baby's chances for survival. Some conditions that are incompatible with life aren't picked up until late in the second trimester. No one should have to carry a baby to term if it isn't going to live.<br /><br />Some people will regret their decision to terminate. Others will regret their decision to become parents. I don't think politicians should be involved, regardless. We are grown women and more than capable dealing with the consequences of our actions.<br /><br />Gosnell took advantage of people in desperate situations and murdered live infants. I am not a fan of the death penalty, but it seems justified in this case. Too bad the staff who were complicit aren't subject to it as well.Excruciating Headachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07133745404507060277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47470001116572521212013-04-12T20:23:45.098-04:002013-04-12T20:23:45.098-04:00Anon @ 5:42--You sound to me like one of the most ...Anon @ 5:42--You sound to me like one of the most honest and compassionate people. You sound like a true and good person with a pure heart. I am sorry for your loss and how this haunts you. I hope that you will find peace, because God forgives you. We've all made mistakes in this life. Most people don't have the courage you do to admit they regret something deeply. I admire that.Laylanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-83149766262339791352013-04-12T19:55:11.073-04:002013-04-12T19:55:11.073-04:00Thanks Lemon & Hobs...
Also, thank you anon 5...Thanks Lemon & Hobs...<br /><br />Also, thank you anon 5:42 for sharing something so painful and personal. It's easy for someone like me to take up a position against abortion when I have never been faced with the prospect...I am humbled by your honesty and courage.<br /><br />If only every young woman considering abortion could speak to someone who's been thru it, I feel that few less would go thru with it. Like I mentioned before, I have two friends who had abortions in their late teens/ early twenties, and they both make similar statements about the pain and guilt they feel EVERYDAY, although their intention was to walk out of the procedure and never think of it again.Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33742571869790597472013-04-12T19:31:38.864-04:002013-04-12T19:31:38.864-04:00Hugs Jen and Anon xxHugs Jen and Anon xxTania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-89276380600773516812013-04-12T19:30:57.588-04:002013-04-12T19:30:57.588-04:00it is interesting to see how many read the posts y...it is interesting to see how many read the posts yet don't read them.<br /><br />Although the number of preemies surving has improved over the years, the medical problems that can come from a premature birth have not increased.<br />Babies born before 37 weeks are premature, the longer they have to gestate, the better,a baby born at 28 weeks has a lot more developmentally than one born at 24 weeks and the 24 weeker is more developed than a 21 week.<br />Some parents are lucky and their child turns out healthy, others are not so lucky and they face a lifetime of 24 hr caring for their offspring until the day they die, the child dies or they hand over care to a hospital/care home.<br /><br />We may be able to keep extreme preemies alive, however since they have not developed fully in the womb there is the high probability of health problems caused by underdeveloped lungs, eye problems, mental disability and so on.<br /><br />It may be possible in decades to come that such preemies would end up in an artificial womb and then allowed to continue development untill they reach 40 weeks, heck it could be that all babies will be IVF and then allowed to grow in artificial wombs.Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22004730950081568702013-04-12T19:10:29.749-04:002013-04-12T19:10:29.749-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968798156509107306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18505699542026066682013-04-12T19:06:42.988-04:002013-04-12T19:06:42.988-04:00Anonymous 5:42,
I am sorry for the pain you have ...Anonymous 5:42,<br />I am sorry for the pain you have felt. I am humbled by your kindhearted post.Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968798156509107306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-5027353690860642542013-04-12T18:32:09.021-04:002013-04-12T18:32:09.021-04:00Jen-
Congratulations. :)
To anon@5:42 - your post...Jen-<br />Congratulations. :)<br /><br />To anon@5:42 - your post is sober minded and thought provoking. I'm sorry for all you have gone through. You remind us that the "freedom to choose" does not include freedom in choosing the consequences of our actions. Thank you for sharing your story. I wish you better days ahead.<br />sincerely,<br />LemonLemonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15905461861488930140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-79281045854334802572013-04-12T17:42:51.594-04:002013-04-12T17:42:51.594-04:00As someone who had an abortion when she was young,...As someone who had an abortion when she was young, I can tell you it haunts you the rest of your life. There are no words to describe how I feel about it today. It ruined my life and took away my freedom and lightness of heart. I cannot look in the mirror without thinking about it. Can we legislate it and tell women they are free "to choose?" I don't know, but I know we cannot take away the truth about what it is, and what it does to your soul. I salvage the pieces of my life every day, because I have to. Living with what I did is my penance. All I can do is pray God has mercy upon me, even though I know I do not deserve it. Why can we call it everything but what it is, a supreme act of selfishness? Sure, my parents would have been angry at me for having a baby. But you know what? They would have gotten over it, and they would have grown in all the ways we are supposed to grow, namely in love, humility, and forgiveness. I never gave them that chance. I protected myself instead of protecting my baby. I trusted in this world and in others instead of trusting in God. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-82902602533130846052013-04-12T17:15:11.805-04:002013-04-12T17:15:11.805-04:00Hobnob--You are coming from a very uninformed plac...Hobnob--You are coming from a very uninformed place talking about preemies and I don't even understand some of what you are saying like will they grow up to need IVF???<br /><br />My son was a 28 weeker, he is very healthy, scores high genius on some sections of the IQ test the school gave him, he gets straight A's, and I am told often how kind and respectful he is. He was born 2 lbs. 9 oz. and is almost taller than me at age 12. I am 5 foot 8 inches.<br />Just trying to give an idea of the way an early preemie turns out. Some are born earlier than he was, sure, and I know some, they may be a bit shorter, but are intelligent, happy, full of joy. SOME who are VERY early have serious problems, but science advances so much each day, this is getting more and more to be the exception.Laylanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39106254370800321712013-04-12T17:08:10.449-04:002013-04-12T17:08:10.449-04:00Hobnob--I will answer your question--I believe any...Hobnob--I will answer your question--I believe anyone having an abortion past 24 weeks should be charged with murder. Otherwise why was that one of Scott Peterson's charges was for the murder of his unborn son? <br />Nothing Gosnell did was merciful to these babies. He is a sadistic killer. Big Difference. I have no tolerance for people like him who pick on the most defenseless. And I hope he gets the death penalty.Laylanoreply@blogger.com