tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post1699911631307183869..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Statement Analysis: Manti Te'o of Notre DameStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15012569023977800772013-01-19T03:10:43.639-05:002013-01-19T03:10:43.639-05:00And... http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_...And... http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8857057/friend-says-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-confessed-manti-teo-girlfriend-hoaxbrosnanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02437822701412339752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-29412391958056538442013-01-19T03:07:52.555-05:002013-01-19T03:07:52.555-05:00Well, I should check Google News before I post. As...Well, I should check Google News before I post. Ask, and you will receive.<br /><br />http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859077/manti-teo-notre-dame-fighting-irish-denies-being-part-hoax-late-girlfriendbrosnanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02437822701412339752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-35025853065572862832013-01-19T02:55:01.217-05:002013-01-19T02:55:01.217-05:00Obviously, SA has flagged deception in his comment...Obviously, SA has flagged deception in his comments about meeting his supposed girlfriend, and when this supposed girlfriend supposedly died. That was obviously deceptive, the jury has reached a verdict on that point.<br /><br />But, could it possibly be so that he WAS duped into an online relationship with someone who was not what they portrayed themselves to be? In this day and age, there are tons of internet dating sites. Virtual "romance" is not uncommon between two people who have never met. People become "friends" on facebook who have never met one another. MTV has a show called "Catfishing", about people who dupe others over the internet into thinking they are in an online "relationship". It certainly isn't unheard of to have an online "relationship" where the two people have never met. I personally don't think it is advisable, but it is not unheard of or impossible. Today's young people seem to look at the internet as just another way to meet a boyfriend or girlfriend; kind of a big party with lots of different people in different rooms of one really large "house".<br /><br />Perhaps Te'o was embarrassed at having an exclusively online relationship. Despite the openness of young people to virtual relationships, there is still a stigma among many (rightly so, IMO) about people who are only romantically connected through the internet. Maybe he was embarrassed that a big, handsome football player such as himself couldn't get a "real-life" girlfriend, so he made up stories about how they had met in person. This would have been at any point before December.<br /><br />Then, after he found out the truth about the deception in early December, he felt like he had to save face until such time as he could figure out what to do. He did talk to his parents over the Christmas break about it. However, to his detriment, he kept putting it off, maybe hoping it would all just magically go away, until finally he was outed by Deadspin.<br /><br />I am not saying he did not make up meeting a girlfriend, who then tragically died; I am saying that I don't think we have enough evidence to say HE completely originated the lie of the made-up girlfriend, who then tragically died. I am not completely convinced the lie originated with him, but I am also not completely convinced it didn’t; perhaps his part of the lie happened after he found out he was duped. We don't have much other than his prepared statement after the fact to go on and analyze. I think that any of the above scenarios by other posters could be true, but there also could be other scenarios not yet explored. My opinion is that we need a recent statement by Te'o to analyze, perhaps an interview conducted by a skilled interviewer. I think then we can have something to work with and can then make more of an informed decision as to whether or not Te'o is lying about the entire thing.<br /><br />He definitely could have made up a dead girlfriend to drum up support or sympathy or whatever, perhaps to help him win the Heisman. But he could have also been duped. I think the jury is still out on that one part of this story.<br /><br />I would like to have a recent statement to run through SA to truly get to the bottom of this whole thing. I'm withholding judgment until such time.<br /><br />(I deleted my earlier post because I felt I need to clarify a few points I was trying to make.)brosnanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02437822701412339752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4455906949169483672013-01-19T02:44:43.744-05:002013-01-19T02:44:43.744-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.brosnanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02437822701412339752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-27533505313425084042013-01-18T17:24:37.794-05:002013-01-18T17:24:37.794-05:00I believe you, Vita.I believe you, Vita.Mainahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23099965806348536582013-01-18T13:34:35.924-05:002013-01-18T13:34:35.924-05:00Reverse, Rob,
Thinking about that as well. A fict...Reverse, Rob, <br />Thinking about that as well. A fictitious girlfriend. Why a created GF would be of his advantage. He being popular by his history created on campus, his football stance. Girls on campus, girls at games attempting his attention. Girls love football players. <br /><br />He being free agent? he to have girls constant flirting with him, the knowing he did not have a girlfriend. He and his male (cohort) or he alone, or his cohort to create this online remote, removed, off site " girl" for him. Girls on campus then to approach him, he to respond, sorry I am taken. I have a girlfriend. He to walk away, no questions asked. <br /><br />Detour or lure. He chose to detour women away from him, using his fake created girlfriend. She then needed a personality? people were not buying it? so she became virtual, built upon layers of stories, we are committed online. We see each other, when we can. <br /><br />Thinking of the amount of energy it would take to carry this on for years. The payoff must have been beneficial at first. Either he has issues with intimacy, having a one one relationship with girls (mentally emotionally), or he created her to hide, his truth, which is, he is in the closet. He living secretly on the " Down Low", his religion to be entangled. The stigma attached to be learned, that he is gay. He playing on Notre Dame, he to go to any length to protect his secret? he by creating all this, his stories, did the opposite, it highlighted him into the spot light. <br /> <br />Crazy as it is, was on TV two nights ago. Law and Order, SVU. A man found murdered, a who dunnit. The trail to lead to one, friend of the victim, for years. He the last to see him alive. Tracing the victims past, his autopsy, he is found to be HIV positive. The connection found, to lead to a group of men, meeting every Weds to play poker. Found, one, a famous pro football player. He forced to admit his dating status, his said, he dated beautiful women publicly, yet only had sex with men, secretly. He not able though to say it himself, I am gay. He could not, as he screamed to Finn, I only date women! Finn to tell him, News flash, You are Gay. He in denial, I only hook up with married men, it's discreet, no one to know of their meetings on Weds. He would not acknowledge, was his Football career that kept him mentally in denial. He 100 percent assured that no one knew of his secret, therefore he was straight. Fate worse then death, his belief Gays do not play for the NFL, therefore again, I am not gay. <br /><br />Manti's father to commit to the lie, she exists. His team advisers to commit to the lie she exists. <br />This a whole lot of protection, united front, for a made up, created girlfriend. Manti an investment to both, his career the glue to bind them. <br /><br />Now found she never existed, does not exist, she fictitiously played/used to boast his football career. He Manti' his education, his football career at risk for years. He had to have support of others to keep this alive, protected. Who had the most to lose, had he "she" been exposed earlier is the question. <br /><br />To know it was a lie is one thing, to continue the lie and support it is another. Those who knew or ?, to use Fictitious Girl to garner publicity, sympathy, promotions goes without saying - it was working, for not only him, for them as well. What is not understood is how HIGH the tales became, the higher they became, the risk to lose everything to increase. This why she had to die a horrible death? Boggling. <br /><br />Deadspin reports she became a known in his life, in 2009. The girl who's photos were used, creating the online identity speaks: <br /><br />http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoaxVitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394778721572395732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-51859250680706112592013-01-18T13:02:40.617-05:002013-01-18T13:02:40.617-05:00Boston Lady:
I have pondered all the same. And, t...Boston Lady:<br /><br />I have pondered all the same. And, the idea that he "killed" her off, even if perceived sweetly and fictionally seems no joke to me. I wonder if that suggest, or reveals something. It entered his language/thinking for a reason. It could have been the timing of grammah dying, he seems to have a very shallow pool of experiences to draw from.<br /><br />I futther ponder: Why would a smart, young, Mormon, go to Notre Dame (Catholic School) perform as a diligent student and exceptional athlete, a loving family man; create a fake woman and then slow torture her off (verbally speaking)?<br /><br />Yes. It appears we do live in Opposite-ville, USA, right next to Duping-land, USAMainahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-55477316032043581212013-01-18T12:50:27.010-05:002013-01-18T12:50:27.010-05:00OT: (see above anon).
Was a man murdered for ste...OT: (see above anon). <br /><br />Was a man murdered for stealing toothpaste, and did a cover up follow, including with the assistance of LE? What the...???<br /><br />This is horrible...truth and justice is a long time in the revealing.<br /><br />"The video appears to capture Kyser fleeing to the alley with the store manager close behind him. There's a brief struggle before Kyser hits the pavement, with the store manager on top of him.<br />Another man appears to punch and kick Kyser, at one point stepping down on his hand while the store manager remains atop Kyser. More bystanders join in, helping to hold Kyser down. Eventually, Kyser stops flailing his legs, the video shows.<br />A police officer arrives minutes later, followed by more cops and then an ambulance. But emergency responders are unable to revive Kyser.<br /><br />"The video was reviewed by detectives as part of their investigation at the time," Chicago Police Department spokeswoman Lt. Maureen Biggane said. "It was determined that criminal charges were not warranted."<br /><br />In other words...<br /><br />reviewed = minimizing evidence value<br /><br />their investigation = not mine<br /><br />at the time = perhaps at another different time it may be a different truth/reality/fact(?)<br /><br />"It was determined that criminal charges were not warranted" = something else could have been warranted and a different determination could have been made.<br /><br />Unbelievable.<br />Mainahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38102770883641555422013-01-18T12:25:44.159-05:002013-01-18T12:25:44.159-05:00People lie for a reason. Something pushed him to...People lie for a reason. Something pushed him to make all of this up. Is he hiding a gay lifestyle as some have suggested? He also didn't think this through as his stories are so obviously fake. He uses "just" in most of his statements.<br /><br />Did he get caught up in his own lies and couldn't find a way out so he "killed" off the fake g/f? Or did he really mean to use this lie to advance his career?<br /><br />People lie for a reason. BostonLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833888944249432880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13374881300749153372013-01-18T12:23:24.918-05:002013-01-18T12:23:24.918-05:00Peter:
Could you SCAN the athletic directer's ...Peter:<br />Could you SCAN the athletic directer's statements?<br /><br />The AD is red flaggin' all over. The cover-up is growing, that is to say a lot of people joined in, volunteering themselves as truth/facts/logic-defying obstacles. Someone is going to break from the lie soon and expose the truth. That person(s) will be ridiculed, scorned, maybe killed, in order to stop the truth from "coming out."<br /><br />The cover-up often seems worse then the truth, IMO.<br /><br />Here are some links (it's getting worse, sadder - my reality, that is-I'm in prayer for the innocent victims of this mess).<br /><br />Dated yesterday, new pieces to the puzzle(?):<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/notre-dame-lizzy-seeberg-suicide_n_2499256.html<br /><br />Notre Dame PR, no mention, but likely significant, see the date:<br />http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011213aab.html<br /><br />(ugh)The statements and video of the deceiver(s) in action. A virtual bottomless cesspool of truth buried fiction:<br />http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8851033/story-manti-teo-girlfriend-death-apparently-hoax<br />Mainahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38775238202356345542013-01-18T11:07:07.529-05:002013-01-18T11:07:07.529-05:00Reverse, that is exactly what I was thinking, eith...Reverse, that is exactly what I was thinking, either he thought it would somehow boost his career, thru the sympathy factor OR he was really Gay, or afraid of women, and thought the fake gf, that he liked to talk about, would make his situation easier.<br /><br />All I can say for him, is at least he is young and dumb, and maybe can grow out of it.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2778676469352461862013-01-18T10:53:28.224-05:002013-01-18T10:53:28.224-05:00An ex-teammate just told ESPN that Te'o had a ...An ex-teammate just told ESPN that Te'o had a huge ego. He directed everyone around him to watch attentively anytime he saw himself on television. I think he started the "girlfriend" story either as a misguided attempt to boost his ego, or to conceal an intimate long-distance relationship with a guy. As his stock kept rising, he may have decided to end the facade before he was exposed, by getting rid of his fake girlfriend somehow. That's when he may have gotten the idea to use that opportunity to artificially create a new kind of "Notre Dame" legend, centered around himself, that would trump the old "...win just one for the Gipper" speech by Knute Rockne. Creating a story to replace one of the greatest moments in football history would've required Te'o to "go huge." Having his grandmother, whose memory he belittled with this actions, AND his girlfriend die the very same day was definitely big enough (if they'd have won the championship). I couldn't believe his coaches didn't MAKE him evaluate his priorities properly and go back to Hawaii for his grandmother's funeral; I posted a status update to my friends on Facebook about that at the time.<br /><br />He might have thought such a lie, combined with a great individual performance in the next game - the game he played because his dead girlfriend told him to play instead of attending her funeral ("Win one for the GF'er") - would propel him to the Heisman ceremony, give his team the motivation they needed to compete and win (they weren't that great, and definitely overachieved), improve his stock in the upcoming draft, and enable the new "Manti Legend" to supplant all of the previous ones in Irish lore. If he did try to create a self-centered mythos using deception without considering the ethical implications, he'll likely be drafted by Baltimore as a perfect replacement for Ray Lewis.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16362405614535913979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38658460950174541272013-01-18T09:17:28.942-05:002013-01-18T09:17:28.942-05:00OT: Hi Peter.
Here is a case you may be intereste...OT: Hi Peter.<br />Here is a case you may be interested in.<br />A homeless man steals TOOTHPASTE from a CVS store and flees. The manager of the CVS runs out after him and chokes the homeless man to death while bystanders hold him down. The police said it was an accident. The coroner said it was a homicide. No charges were filed at the time.<br /><br />http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130117/chicago/video-captures-death-of-cvs-toothpaste-shoplifterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com