tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post2066709040298322314..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Davey Blackburn: The Identity of "We"Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger182125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39216945354753760812015-11-25T03:04:36.262-05:002015-11-25T03:04:36.262-05:00How are people drawing the conclusion that he is h...How are people drawing the conclusion that he is highly intelligent? I keep seeing something to that effect being posted, but I don't see any evidence that he is of above average intelligence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-40287693236096956042015-11-25T02:45:12.655-05:002015-11-25T02:45:12.655-05:00Very well thought out and true. He is all you desc...Very well thought out and true. He is all you described. Thinkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733381067868280296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-83435886696379230762015-11-25T02:43:03.177-05:002015-11-25T02:43:03.177-05:00Very well thought out and true. He is all you desc...Very well thought out and true. He is all you described. Thinkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733381067868280296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-41391705442378704712015-11-23T15:55:12.360-05:002015-11-23T15:55:12.360-05:00Yes!!!!!!!!Yes!!!!!!!!Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06929169188962999391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6692841947054253262015-11-23T09:11:54.944-05:002015-11-23T09:11:54.944-05:00To Sloane Berrie: Does this teen have anything to ...To Sloane Berrie: Does this teen have anything to do with the picture you saw? Just curious, since now there is more information with the arrest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80694799742268685382015-11-23T09:02:08.199-05:002015-11-23T09:02:08.199-05:00I just watched the entire DB interview from that l...I just watched the entire DB interview from that local news site, WTHR, from Nov. 17; parts 1 and 2, for a total of 28 minutes or so. And again, I regret not watching this first, before reading and interpreting comments.<br /><br />http://www.wthr.com/story/30538924/davey-blackburn-speaks-about-losing-wife-unborn-baby-in-violent-home-invasion<br /><br />This is curious, how we are differing so much in how we interpret this man's self-expression.<br /><br />Here I see a man full of faith. I see him speak quite extensively about Amanda's qualities, about how they were close partners in their spiritual journey. About what her dreams and plans were for their family. He shares about what an impact she had on others in their faith journeys. I see him use "I" a lot, and be genuinely emotionally moved at points. He seems to indeed be an open book, as we have seen--even if we cannot believe this is possible, or that someone would admit such behavior as he admits to on stage. ...But that is because he does indeed innocently put full stock in his faith, that he has nothing to be "embarrassed" about, nothing to hide, because he knows he has submitted to God to continually forgive and make him a better person. I believe him when he said he and Amanda had no secrets, thus it does not seem "off" to him to whip out her journal and read from it. He does say in the interview that she didn't like him reading it; so she obviously was aware that he did this and expressed it to him. Yet, she was a patient woman, full of faith. I do feel from this interview that he did respect and admire this woman whom he perceived to be of strong faith. <br /><br />As BB at 8:45 said, the use of "we" could be typical for a preacher used to speaking for "all of humanity," "all believers;" and who perceives himself in the role of the imparter of spiritual understanding in difficult times. This did occur to me earlier, though I'm not sure if it seems to explain all of his "we" usage across all interviews. In this interview, he does move from the "we" to the "I," so I think he does distinguish between his philosophical perspective and his personal experience.<br /><br />Despite all that, like Skeptic above, he really perceived he was under a lot of pressure, it seems...especially with his church "business," and that his model was unsustainable and perhaps naively idealistic. I will honestly feel badly if he is responsible for something untoward. <br /><br />I am a woman (and lesbian at that), if that might add to the understanding of why we are having different perspectives. ...I am sympathetic with Christ's message, and my spiritual journey has encompassed a lot of perspectives. I also have a brother who somewhat reminds me of Davey. He is also very physically attractive, but upon meeting his wife (who I'd say is not as physically attractive ---someone brought up this angle), turned himself toward full investment in the faith that she had. They are not really compatible, I'd say, but rather attempt to filter their relationship through their faith. He respects her strong sense of faith. I think it fulfilled something in him that he thought was missing before they met. He perceives that it gave him some grounding.<br /><br />--KC<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78705521685149356292015-11-23T08:16:52.360-05:002015-11-23T08:16:52.360-05:00Someone has been arrested in this case, they are c...Someone has been arrested in this case, they are calling it a home invasion.<br />http://www.kshb.com/news/national/man-arrested-in-slaying-of-indiana-pastors-pregnant-wife<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19310312378081753002015-11-23T01:04:55.777-05:002015-11-23T01:04:55.777-05:00http://www.wthr.com/story/30582162/man-questioned-...http://www.wthr.com/story/30582162/man-questioned-in-amanda-blackburn-case-arrested-for-murder<br /><br />Thanks to JC123 for this in the chat room just now.<br /><br />A suspect has been arrested on murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-49066938588437382972015-11-23T00:52:37.207-05:002015-11-23T00:52:37.207-05:00THANK YOU, FFOF!!!!
And neither do I.
THANK YOU, FFOF!!!!<br /><br />And neither do I.<br /><br />JMTOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-41592085363807935812015-11-22T22:30:34.180-05:002015-11-22T22:30:34.180-05:00My original comment was meant to be a reply to Lem...My original comment was meant to be a reply to Lemon's comment, but when I posted it, it didn't post it as a reply, and the option to reply had disappeared. So I altered the comment slightly and re-posted as a stand-alone.<br /><br />As you were.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03944766018173436353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78435601579394981452015-11-22T21:48:54.299-05:002015-11-22T21:48:54.299-05:00To Foolsfeedonfolly at 2:41
I too think that DB&#...To Foolsfeedonfolly at 2:41<br /><br />I too think that DB's affect is inconsistent with the reality of the events. I Googled a scholarly article on this subject and it is expected that when one suffers an UNEXPECTED death of a loved one that it is only worsened when the death is violent and disfiguring. I do wonder if DB's years at being a pastor have created neural pathways which are altering the response WE (:)) would expect. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-24816583988675074792015-11-22T21:37:44.673-05:002015-11-22T21:37:44.673-05:00Why don't you submit it to the crime stoppers?...Why don't you submit it to the crime stoppers? If it comes out as nothing, no harm done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-73838955452024054442015-11-22T21:14:05.924-05:002015-11-22T21:14:05.924-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.My Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369184319504834561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74442835267298949382015-11-22T21:02:10.911-05:002015-11-22T21:02:10.911-05:00http://www.christianitytoday.org/mediaroom/news/20...http://www.christianitytoday.org/mediaroom/news/2014/top-10-sermons-of-2013-from-preaching-todaycom.html#bmb=1 Just a glance at this article shows us the prevalence of editorial we in the pulpit. Four of the top 10 sermons of 2013 use editorial we in the "purpose statement" or summation. Again, not saying CD has a clear conscience. BBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094207200755413519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-3547979893217478752015-11-22T20:50:21.450-05:002015-11-22T20:50:21.450-05:00Don't you think making the decision to pull li...Don't you think making the decision to pull life support is enough to make someone feel guilty of murder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-58109926936591945302015-11-22T20:45:04.931-05:002015-11-22T20:45:04.931-05:00We = Christians. He is using editorial "we&qu...We = Christians. He is using editorial "we" typically used by preachers. Very common for preachers when preaching. We = church members or we= mankind. It is not unusual at all for a preacher, and a person who views himself as an imparter of higher knowledge, to use the editorial we. Google some famous sermons. He is speaking to his church. The "we" as he employs it lately also seems in line with a person who is emphasizing "we" with respect to our distance from God. Now, that said, it will take something pretty significant to convince me that he isn't connected. BBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094207200755413519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-35780418978932943532015-11-22T20:14:11.975-05:002015-11-22T20:14:11.975-05:00Trustmeigetit,
The shot to the stomach coupled wi...Trustmeigetit,<br /><br />The shot to the stomach coupled with the non-introduction of the baby is originally what made me wonder if he thought Amanda was having an affair. Then, I realized his language didn't support that (because he shows the same disconnect with Weston) and there are no linguistic indicators that he thought she was having an affair. It struck me as a strange and awful coincidence though. <br /><br />Is it confirmed that she was shot in the stomach?<br /><br />Betty,<br /><br />You are right, the 100% is a qualifier, unnecessary & extra information. That's what made it sensitive.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04496690304059690793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13376538522932566372015-11-22T19:21:15.264-05:002015-11-22T19:21:15.264-05:00If I recall Peter's teachings correctly, the &...If I recall Peter's teachings correctly, the "100%" is considered unnecessry info. The unnecessry info gives a sensitivity to a previously neutral statement.<br /><br />He is not involved. <-- simple and to the point.<br /><br />He is 100% not involved. <-- extra info trying to convince us.<br /> Bettynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9433105688714544442015-11-22T19:12:27.177-05:002015-11-22T19:12:27.177-05:00rjb said...
Is it possible that any of DB'...<b> rjb said...<br /><br /> Is it possible that any of DB's linguistic choices could be due to his feeling a sense of culpability in his wife's death due to the fact that he was the one who would have made the decision to remove her from life support? In my experience with the Evangelical church, brain death is not often accepted as a valid diagnosis, and the decision to remove supportive measures is frequently viewed as being akin to murder (only God has the right to end someone's life, God could miraculously revive the brain dead individual, other reasoning placing the ultimate power over the physical death of the brain dead person in God's hands & God's hands alone.) I fully agree with the assessment that DB is a narcissist who feels no true sense of loss over Amanda's death or the death of their unborn child, but can being immersed in a culture and worldview where the conscious choice to remove someone from life support is generally considered questionable at best provide enough of a feeling that he is responsible, at least to some degree, for his wife's death, and therefore result in his using suspicious language?</b><br /><br />What caught my eye was this <b>brain death is not often accepted as a valid diagnosis, and the decision to remove supportive measures is frequently viewed as being akin to murder (only God has the right to end someone's life, God could miraculously revive the brain dead individual, other reasoning placing the ultimate power over the physical death of the brain dead person in God's hands & God's hands alone.</b><br />My issue is, if god called the person to him, man is interfering with his plan by putting them on life support.<br />They then claim if god wants them he will take them, ignoring the fact that god had already done so and they were denying him what he wanted Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47475397604745957342015-11-22T18:19:33.543-05:002015-11-22T18:19:33.543-05:00I'm wondering if crazy davy has missed any of ...<br />I'm wondering if crazy davy has missed any of his daily 3 hour gym sessions<br />since Amanda was murdered ? <br />sidewalk supernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68608492476855076492015-11-22T18:02:44.060-05:002015-11-22T18:02:44.060-05:00This crossed my mind as well. Even my worst enemy....This crossed my mind as well. Even my worst enemy...if I witnessed something like that, I'm confident it would emotionally destroy me for some time. <br /><br />Even if he didn't love his wife, that still should have been beyond tramautizing. <br /><br />He has not shown an ounce of sadness or trauma. That is just not right. <br /><br />The 911 call I think will really give us SA people answers. <br /><br />Still bottom ally sure he is involved but I am pretty close to that.<br /><br />Also the interesting thing that keeps going thru my mind is the shots to the stomach and head. As if the goal was to kill the baby and her. <br /><br />Anyone have that thought. <br /><br />trustmeigetithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05707304982363758140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68812183459481165772015-11-22T17:52:55.569-05:002015-11-22T17:52:55.569-05:00Then what about the direct comment about how he fe...Then what about the direct comment about how he feels about his involvement where he used "us and "we"<br /><br />The reporter was speaking to him and him alone about him and him alone. <br /><br />There was no suspicion to his son or other family members. <br /><br />That to me is the most troubling comment he has made. <br /><br />We in other areas could really be him and Weston. But directly related to his involvement no. Us and we is not acceptable. trustmeigetithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05707304982363758140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36964648118222126712015-11-22T17:18:33.525-05:002015-11-22T17:18:33.525-05:00Foolsfeedonfolly:
All good points.
I called Dave...Foolsfeedonfolly:<br /><br />All good points.<br /><br />I called Davey a narcissistic psychopath upthread (posting as anonymous, before opening my Google account). I happen to be a psychologist by training, and I specialize in this particular pathology (among other things). He fits the criteria, and I am happy to see that most people identified him properly. Kudos to human intuition.<br /><br />I also think Peter's analysis is accurate. <br /><br />These men -- as narcissistic psychopathy is predominantly a male pathology -- are sex- and control-obsessed macho-wannabe misogynists as par for their pathological (and often ideological) course. Religion is a perfect racket for them, because it gives them power (male headship) and puts women under their control teaching them submission in all matters, especially sexual.<br /><br />So Davey's atrocious behavior toward Amanda -- behavior that raises red flags in normal people's minds and makes them want to either run or vomit, or both -- is, unfortunately, completely normal in the context of their religion. <br /><br />But Davey's is not alone in his mistreatment of his wife and women in general among religious men. This happens to be the feature of that world, rather than a bug.<br /><br />If you search the web for Christian patriarchy and related matters (Christian female submission, for example, or biblical gender roles), you will find many sources, including blogs with very active commentariat, that may raise the hair on your head with their medieval (and psychopathic) content preaching absolute male dominance, including abuse of women (e.g., wifely "discipline") as a part of their ethos, justified by the Bible.<br /><br />I am heartened to see that most people are able to recognize this as pathology.<br /><br />It should not surprise anyone that within a belief system teaching that women are male property, created to fulfill male needs (sexual and domestic), abuse is a given. Abuse in all forms is a natural consequence of such dehumanization. So disposal of "broken" property is no big deal, especially when its replacement is in the offing (as I suspect could be the case here).<br /><br />We don't have evidence of Davey's involvement in Amanda's murder; but, psychologically at least, as well as statistically, he makes the no.1 suspect.<br /><br />Danohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368539982382474409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54332243287234509482015-11-22T17:11:11.359-05:002015-11-22T17:11:11.359-05:00I'm lost. Who is JB?I'm lost. Who is JB?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-81647975158457668662015-11-22T17:03:11.693-05:002015-11-22T17:03:11.693-05:00Sloan whose profile did you go to find the photo? ...Sloan whose profile did you go to find the photo? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com