tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post2121663274571557666..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Tammy Moorer's Father Dies Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45400816215944692632014-03-27T23:19:43.665-04:002014-03-27T23:19:43.665-04:00Imo moving out maybe because TM and SM could have ...Imo moving out maybe because TM and SM could have told HE that since she was pregnant (if she was) she could stay with them, so they go to pick her up, and bam things change. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-35943530157981481232014-03-26T22:56:16.067-04:002014-03-26T22:56:16.067-04:00ya wish she was here tp speak for herself about it...ya wish she was here tp speak for herself about it, course that goes without saying. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45725644751372847812014-03-26T21:32:45.823-04:002014-03-26T21:32:45.823-04:00Yeah, you are probably right about the coworker be...Yeah, you are probably right about the coworker being female. A guy probably wouldn't find it quite as disturbing! I did not know that about the images on the Tumbler. I wonder why she moved out at that particular time also. I don't think there was pressure on her to move out, as I remember reading on here that someone had wriiten that Terry had wriiten something somewhere about how he was going to feel extremely sad when she moved out. She was still stopping home to get mail at the time she disappeared but other than that info I don't know, I would be curious to know also.Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-27266133908687405962014-03-26T20:29:24.404-04:002014-03-26T20:29:24.404-04:00i'd reallylike to know why she moved out when ...i'd reallylike to know why she moved out when she did, somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36289893309140308922014-03-26T20:25:17.850-04:002014-03-26T20:25:17.850-04:00i think it was a female relaying story. I think on...i think it was a female relaying story. I think only a straight femail would be baffled by one woman sending another woman pic of her vagina. I think anybody who's actually like getting that pic wouldn't be struck by the oddity oif it so acutely. like how straight guys never quite get certain thing of how it feels to be female -- i'd say only a female would get how weird that would be. <br /><br />although it reminds me - I forget heather had lots of lesbian sex images on her tumbler. I forgot about that. I had wondered if she was maybe bi. but it's likely neither here nor there anyway. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1190177907627036042014-03-26T20:17:35.460-04:002014-03-26T20:17:35.460-04:00somanyways wrote
what I noted about that quite is...somanyways wrote<br /><br />what I noted about that quite is that she goes on to say how weird it is for one woman to send another woman a pic of her vagina - but she doesn't say it's a big deal for one woman to give another woman a black eye. IMO both things are shocking. and the black eye - in a practical sense - should be even mopre alarming.<br /><br />Good catch!<br />That sentence bothered me for reasons I couldnt quite figure out. I found it strange she emphasized it was a woman sending another woman instead of justfocusing on the harrassing element of it. It made me wonder if the coworker who wrote this was male, because of the emphasis on woman sending to another woman.<br />Now that Ireadwhat you wrote I see it better. The writer does seem MORE troubled by the picture being sent than the black eye which in the context of Heather being missing and probably killed, the black eye should be what is standing out to the writer I would think.<br />I don't know why Heather moved out since she was being threatened byTammy and then the fact she had to be alone inher apartment because her roommate was inFlorida!Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32425570509219560462014-03-26T19:49:12.475-04:002014-03-26T19:49:12.475-04:00why would Heather move out of her family home righ...why would Heather move out of her family home right in the middle of all this danger? why didn't she seek their protection instead?somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47696915708429106972014-03-26T19:45:08.987-04:002014-03-26T19:45:08.987-04:00I don't think that even the girl who told this...I don't think that even the girl who told this story beliewves the black eye came from tammy. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28244611586811538112014-03-26T19:42:16.141-04:002014-03-26T19:42:16.141-04:00what I noted about that quite is that she goes on ...what I noted about that quite is that she goes on to say how weird it is for one woman to send another woman a pic of her vagina - but she doesn't say it's a big deal for one woman to give another woman a black eye. IMO both things are shocking. and the black eye - in a practical sense - should be even mopre alarming. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28502973333950705412014-03-26T19:30:54.562-04:002014-03-26T19:30:54.562-04:00Maybe she had taken a pic of the black eye to docu...Maybe she had taken a pic of the black eye to document it or maybe tge coworker is not being completely honest that every single person at wirk saw it or I could just be wrong too :/Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23809610740257817952014-03-26T19:26:53.161-04:002014-03-26T19:26:53.161-04:00I don't know what implications this could have...I don't know what implications this could have about the black eye and who Heather did or did not confide in but this section of the quote grabbed my attention for two reasons<br /><br />"She came to work with a black eye. We ALL saw it. Including a picture Tammy sent her of Sidney eating her out."<br />What I think is odd about how this is written is the capitalization of ALL. It's as if it is capitalized to indicate everyone there saw it. Why? Was there ever any question about whether certain people did not see it? It is different than saying "We all saw it". The writer then says "including a picture Tammy sent...."<br />"Including" a picture<br />The way it is phrased it is like the writer has seen pictures on a phone that "included" the gross Tammy pic. It almost sounds like the picture of the black eye could have been on the phone?<br />Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-67039339681247403552014-03-26T19:13:47.839-04:002014-03-26T19:13:47.839-04:00somanyways wrote
and yes -- somebody else was cal...somanyways wrote<br /><br />and yes -- somebody else was calling her a little b and she was internalizing the language<br /><br />I agree. I absolutely feel she internalized this language from somewhere. A person does not just start calling themselves a "little b&$ch" out of nowhere.<br />I want to address something from quote Jen Ow posted.<br />Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44255497594191575412014-03-26T18:45:40.837-04:002014-03-26T18:45:40.837-04:00and yes -- somebody else was calling her a little ...and yes -- somebody else was calling her a little b and she was internalizing the language somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-7018559097027512792014-03-26T18:44:44.016-04:002014-03-26T18:44:44.016-04:00angelina -- I agree somebody taller than her. and ...angelina -- I agree somebody taller than her. and male. <br /><br />and ya -- how could she hve been getting this intense harassment and not turned to any male for assistance??<br /><br />every woman who's not a martial arts expert has this knowledge that bringing in some muscle is just practical stuff when you are under threat. <br /><br />but -- it really is hard to explain the PTL, phone data timing. but it's hard to explain it either way. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74134167568661656182014-03-26T18:30:38.655-04:002014-03-26T18:30:38.655-04:00Something I forgot to add about the stairs thing
T...Something I forgot to add about the stairs thing<br />The language bothers me because I fear someone was physically hurting her and then insulting her for being physically hurt by them, which is quite brutal if that was happening.Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6573453282028056992014-03-26T18:25:23.653-04:002014-03-26T18:25:23.653-04:00somanyways wrote
I believe each time the harrasse...somanyways wrote<br /><br />I believe each time the harrassement gets to a point where it really scares Heather -- she goes to somebody for help -- and that person instead of helping -- punishes/rages at heather for being such a tramp/ etc<br /><br />This idea you have is very interesting. It does allign also with logic. Heather was being mistreated and terrirized by Tammy & Sidney, and I include Sidney in this because he was not seemingly comforting Heather about Tammy's harrassment perhaps even participating in it by allowing the pics to be taken etc. Oftentimes when a person gets beaten down emotionally they often do reach out to someone who also ends up mistreating them probably cause they are vulnerable and don't believe they deserve better?<br />Now, falling down stairs and calling oneself a "little b&$th" I would bet that someone else was saying these exact same words to her in some context. Perhaps what you are saying, the context of reaching out for help! I don't like that she called herself that! I get that she is young and young people talk a certain way, but something doesnt sit right with me about her calling herself that! I would guess if someone called her that they were male and probably literally taller than her, very degrading personality. Who is the abusive guy from work Terry mentioned??Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39898788570218300072014-03-26T18:02:39.002-04:002014-03-26T18:02:39.002-04:00just learned phone could still ring - even if no m...just learned phone could still ring - even if no more phone data. so if it went into water all those things could still happen -- loss of data -- ad still ringing two days later. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-11508729541545667372014-03-26T17:46:37.699-04:002014-03-26T17:46:37.699-04:00I wonder exactly what -- "the end of phone da...I wonder exactly what -- "the end of phone data" means. does it mean her phone was broken in that moment? or just turned off?<br /><br />this doesn't quite make sense -- because Terry reported calling her phone repeatedely until it started only going to voicemail. if the phone was broken at 3:40 a.m. --- why did it take calls for a while two mornings later as if the battery was still in act of draining?<br /><br />maybe somebody with phone knowledge can answer that. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25754357544216922032014-03-26T16:57:53.206-04:002014-03-26T16:57:53.206-04:00I think - If somebody else killed her - they'd...I think - If somebody else killed her - they'd have every reason to capitilize on what they knew and attempt to frame the moorers. they could easily leave Heather's car at the landing and then just expect the record of phone calls to point the finger away from them. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1844501864996312672014-03-26T16:41:32.100-04:002014-03-26T16:41:32.100-04:00Anonymous Angelina said...
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I had wondere...Anonymous Angelina said...<br />somanyway<br />I had wondered that too, not regarding the first example of the harrassment pic text and black eye, but now that you are finding a correlation, I had thought about the night of Heather's disappearance that what Sidney and Tammy seemed to be doing with the sex around town and if there was a gross pic sent that night to Heather seemed to be one level of "let me prove to myself and Heather He's Mine & I am sexy!" and the luring/violence/disappearance seems to be another level. What I mean is I had wondered whether Sidney and Tammy and doing the gross sex stuff was it's own thing and the disappearance and possible likely violence towards Heather was a different dynamic done by someone else. The gross sex stuff would seem to indicate "I am going to win this contest!" The disappearance/violence would indicate Tammy would have been putting an end to the contest. So, I did wonder could these two things have been done by different people, but when you think about the phone call Sidney answered and then Heather driving right to the dock and disappearing I then begin to doubt whether it was two different sets of people but I defintely get what you are saying.<br /><br />March 26, 2014 at 4:26 PM<br /><br /><br />I'm really happy you wrote this. it's nice to have more company in theories :) <br /><br />IMO there's two different things going on. There's Tammys battle to dominate as the desireable mate, etc. and there's somebody punishing/raging at Heather for having instigated all this trouble in first place. I believe each time the harrassement gets to a point where it really scares Heather -- she goes to somebody for help -- and that person instead of helping -- punishes/rages at heather for being such a tramp/ etc. and Heather so far swallowed the abuse. feeling trapped. and this is why she had all these fantasies about leaving town/ etc, it wasn't just one enemy it was the feeling of being cornered between multiple dangers. THIS is what makes people want to flee - it's not a singular problem - it's when turning for help only gets them in deeper. and they feel there's nobody left to turn to and they feel they have no recourse. it's compounding problems that break people - not a single problem. <br /><br />the biggest issue I take with assuming the moorers did it IS the illogical - ness of texting graphic pics & murder. the texing of graphoc pics means Tammy cares what Heather thinks -- she's working to shape her perception. murder -- well that just trumps everything -- and totally ecipses texting pics of sex. they are of a very differnent nature and purpose -- totally agree. <br /><br /><br />somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-31653201143181120752014-03-26T16:26:20.361-04:002014-03-26T16:26:20.361-04:00somanyway
I had wondered that too, not regarding t...somanyway<br />I had wondered that too, not regarding the first example of the harrassment pic text and black eye, but now that you are finding a correlation, I had thought about the night of Heather's disappearance that what Sidney and Tammy seemed to be doing with the sex around town and if there was a gross pic sent that night to Heather seemed to be one level of "let me prove to myself and Heather He's Mine & I am sexy!" and the luring/violence/disappearance seems to be another level. What I mean is I had wondered whether Sidney and Tammy and doing the gross sex stuff was it's own thing and the disappearance and possible likely violence towards Heather was a different dynamic done by someone else. The gross sex stuff would seem to indicate "I am going to win this contest!" The disappearance/violence would indicate Tammy would have been putting an end to the contest. So, I did wonder could these two things have been done by different people, but when you think about the phone call Sidney answered and then Heather driving right to the dock and disappearing I then begin to doubt whether it was two different sets of people but I defintely get what you are saying.Angelinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32579738263325188462014-03-26T16:14:57.737-04:002014-03-26T16:14:57.737-04:00Ooops, forgot to add about the truck:
Tammy and S...Ooops, forgot to add about the truck:<br /><br />Tammy and Sidney Moorer would also claim that Tammy's father had keys to their truck, but they didn't know he was going to come borrow it in the middle of the night to commit this murder.<br /><br />As I sit here typing this, my inlaws currently have keys to our house and our cars, and we have keys to their house and cars. We live in the same town so this makes perfect sense in case anyone locks themself out (which I have done and my mother-in-law had to come let me back in.) I think a properly presented argument based on shared access would create sufficient reasonable doubt to avoid conviction of kidnapping/murder, although maybe there might still be some accomplice-after-the-fact / obstruction of justice culpability.Katprintnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-43592145018846594112014-03-26T16:05:28.974-04:002014-03-26T16:05:28.974-04:00March 25, 2014 at 8:47 AM Anonymous said... &qu...March 25, 2014 at 8:47 AM Anonymous said... "So does Mr. Caison become there alibi or is he the driver of the truck now? Sorry, but many accused killers use dead people as either the patsy or the alibi."<br /><br />If *I* were Sidney Moorer, I would blame known-violent-criminal William Caison for the kidnapping/murder. I would say that Caison -- possibly sharing his daughter's extreme hatred of heather -- was the one who called Heather to set up the meeting, pretending to be me, ESPECIALLY if Heather's remains are found on/near Caison's property. Heck, it might even be the truth.<br /><br />Blaming William Caison is also good for Tammy Moorer, who could claim that she went crying to her father about her husband cheating on her with Heather then her father took it upon himself to get rid of Heather.<br /><br />Both Tammy and Sidney could deny helping William Caison with the murder. If their fingerprints/hair/blood etc. are found at the murder scene then they could blame cross-contamination because they had been every room of William Caison's house, ridden in his vehicles, used his landscaping/camping/misc. equipment, and so forth. It's pretty ideal, kind of like Casey Anthony throwing her father under the bus.Katprintnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-65459689720943874422014-03-26T16:03:55.105-04:002014-03-26T16:03:55.105-04:00there seems to be a patters of -- she gets harrass...there seems to be a patters of -- she gets harrassment by Tammy & then violece follows. -- well pattern is only two times and second is vanishing and only assumed violence. but --- what i see is -- heather gets eating out image text from Tammy. (ahhh gross) and THEN gets a black eye. <br /><br />then weeks later Heather gets harassed again by Sidney and likely Tammy on sidney's phone and then dissapears. <br /><br /><br />the correlaton between what follows the harrassemt and the harrassment is not clear tho. it's wierd to send a text and then beat up -- & it's weird to make a munch of phone calls and then dissapear. why not just jump yp the latter. <br /><br />makes me think whoever is doing the violence could be a different party than who is doing the harrassing. course i've thought that fom beginnig. <br />somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2601358830468912692014-03-26T15:43:32.149-04:002014-03-26T15:43:32.149-04:00typically people say they fell down stairs when th...typically people say they fell down stairs when they want to explain away bruises from a domestic abuser. it's like a trope -- it's so over used <br /><br />but of course it's also possible she's got bad footing and they are just slippery stairs. <br /><br />if she did have a black eye back then tho -- why isn't her family mentioning it, she lived with them then -- and why didn't they retaliate. nomatter who did it. why wasn't it a very big deal???<br /><br />somebody doesn'y just get a black eye - there has to be a fight -- words said -- specific threats -- did heather get in any swings or did she just take it? <br /><br />I saw that tweet too - about having to make an appearance -- but if there was a stand off at a party/event you'd ecpect there were tons more witnesses . i'd bet Tammy wasn't there but instead home with the kids. somanywayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15336651100794664527noreply@blogger.com