tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post2339271053337478258..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Dee Dee Spicher Given ImmunityStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger200125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59394156481613357632013-09-16T20:58:52.678-04:002013-09-16T20:58:52.678-04:00Anon @ 7:42--I am the anon who did the statement a...Anon @ 7:42--I am the anon who did the statement analysis of Kaine's response to the reporter and I agree with what you wrote.<br />I believe Kaine does have guilty knowledge and I believe that there are some extremely concerning word choices used by Kaine that make me wonder if he has knowledge of where Kyron is. <br />I also believe he reveals in his speech a preoccupation with his own alibi.<br />There is much he reveals in his speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48495025057189121682013-09-15T07:42:27.332-04:002013-09-15T07:42:27.332-04:00When one carefully reads and comprehends all of th...When one carefully reads and comprehends all of the statement analysis performed above; IMO, the summation of the matter is that Kaine Hormon knows exactly what happened to Kyron that day and where he was disposed of. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-84991265913206682013-09-15T01:11:59.549-04:002013-09-15T01:11:59.549-04:00Desiree Young was never friends with Terri. That i...Desiree Young was never friends with Terri. That is a story Terri perpetuated. Desiree was eight months pregnant with Kyron when she discovered that her husband, Kaine was having an affair with Terri.Rose City, Oregonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-5575483819221953592013-09-11T14:58:51.642-04:002013-09-11T14:58:51.642-04:00I remember her slimy smile leaving the courthouse ...I remember her slimy smile leaving the courthouse long ago. No normal, innocent woman would relish the disappearance and death of a little child. She was having fun and that's all I need to know! We will see what she "does." Sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39894313101820571732013-09-11T11:35:35.272-04:002013-09-11T11:35:35.272-04:00Actually I guess you could say "verify the in...Actually I guess you could say "verify the information", but the word "airtight" and "verify" are much more commonly used to describe the word "alibi" and both words tend to have "positive" connotations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9835837316643120742013-09-11T11:30:21.643-04:002013-09-11T11:30:21.643-04:00I searched and cannot find the original text or vi...I searched and cannot find the original text or video of the interview. I tried the link--didn't work.<br />One thing I just realized why Kaine's use of the word "airtight" stood out to me-the word "airtight" is never used to describe "evidence", "information" or "sources". It is rather used to describe an "alibi" as in the expression "airtight alibi". Also, the word "verified" usually has positive connotations and will often have the connotation this person or thing is "OK". For example, they "verified" his passport, they "verified" his identification and allowed him in. Also, "verified" is never used to describe "evidence" or "information", but rather is commonly used to describe the word alibi as in, for example "they need to verify his alibi".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54874351469961457992013-09-11T00:17:53.350-04:002013-09-11T00:17:53.350-04:00The quetsions DeDe says were asked of her by the g...The quetsions DeDe says were asked of her by the grand jury were questionable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80058472088290558632013-09-11T00:16:34.718-04:002013-09-11T00:16:34.718-04:00What about the vast improvement in Kyron's sci...What about the vast improvement in Kyron's science fair project over last year; he apparently had help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30311358437708644822013-09-10T22:49:39.129-04:002013-09-10T22:49:39.129-04:00DEFINITELY significant.
The word "definitely...DEFINITELY significant.<br /><br />The word "definitely" weakens Kaine's assertion that it is significant....and he's parroting Kyron's moms answer...snippet of interview was posted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-76910859259175634092013-09-10T22:16:03.165-04:002013-09-10T22:16:03.165-04:00I also want to highlight the 3 images Kaine mentio...I also want to highlight the 3 images Kaine mentions in the final part of his answer<br /><br />K: until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is airtight, this is another piece that we found<br /> <br />Kaine needs confirmation that this is<br /><br />1) verified<br />2) airtight<br />3) another piece that we found<br /><br />"Verified" conjurs up the image of military personnel or someone or something or importance being "verified", like a badge, an important certificate, something that allows someone admittance to an important place.<br /><br />"Airtight" conjurs up the image of a container or something sealed.<br /><br />"another piece that we found" returns to the puzzle imagery<br /><br />So, it is interesting because he is bringing up 3 very contrasting images. "Verified" brings to mind a badge or a piece of paper. "Airtight" brings to mind a container of some kind. "Another piece that we found" brings to mind a puzzle.<br /><br />I just found these word choices to be interesting as they do not stick with one particular image.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32074685201064730932013-09-10T21:55:35.410-04:002013-09-10T21:55:35.410-04:00Sorry, I could not fit my full analysis in one pos...Sorry, I could not fit my full analysis in one posting.<br /><br />To summarize, Kayne's response is an attempt to disorient the listener, kind of like he is spinning them around in a chair with his dizzying circular answer. He says NOTHING.<br />He does not answer the question. In fact, by the end of his response it is not even clear whether he is talking about the "information" he is being asked about or the "sources" who may not be credible. In fact, he is talking about them both interchangeably in an effort to disorient the listener. Pay special attention to the pronouns IT and THEM in the very last part of my analysis (which Kayne uses interchangeably in the last part of his answer). So, is he talking "it" or "them"?<br />We don't know. By then end of his answer, we do not even know what he is talking about. And that is just the way he wants it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47459367966779775002013-09-10T21:48:12.718-04:002013-09-10T21:48:12.718-04:00Here is my analysis of Kayne's answer.
Kaine:...Here is my analysis of Kayne's answer.<br /><br />Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...<br /><br />Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?<br /><br />Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.<br /><br />Desiree: Yeah.<br /><br />Video: http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html<br /><br /><br />HERE IS MY ANALYSIS:<br /><br /><br />Reporter: How do you feel about it?<br /><br />Kaine: How do I feel about it?<br /> <br /> Kaine repeats the reporter's question back to him. This is a strong indication that he is about to lie in his response and is stalling for more time to think of what to say.<br /><br />K: I feel it's DEFINITELY significant.<br /><br /> The word "definitely" weakens Kaine's assertion that it is significant.<br /><br />K: I don't know how credible the sources are.<br /><br /> This sentence contradicts and negates the sentence which came before it. Kaine feels it is definitely significant, but right away states he does not have confidence in the sources of the information.<br /><br />K: I'm hoping that they are<br /><br /> Kaine has told us a lot so far about the information he is being asked about. He has told us that it is:<br /><br />1) definitely significant<br />2) not credible<br />3) hoping for credibility<br /><br />K: because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before<br /><br />The word "Those" is distancing. Here Kaine is introducing the imagery of a puzzle.<br />He is introducing the idea of "pieces", but not just any "pieces", they are pieces that "we" talked about before<br /><br />K: because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture<br /><br />Kaine is mixing metaphors here in a very awkward way of speaking. But let's listen to what he is telling us:<br /><br />He is hoping that the sources are credible so that it can bring<br /><br />1) the pieces that we talked about <br /> before<br />2) the puzzle<br />3) in<br /><br />K: When the pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle are brought in they will paint the bigger picture.<br /><br />It is interesting because Kaine speaks in imagery of pieces being brought together, brought inward, as with a person sitting at a table pulling pieces to themselves to put together a puzzle. But, Kaine states that when these pieces are brought IN, it will "paint a bigger picture" which is a very different image than the puzzle. Paint the bigger picture is something expansive, outward, away from the person.<br /><br />K: BUT until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is airtight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.<br /><br />Kaine tells us that the information he is being asked about:<br /><br />1)they are not confirmed<br />2) they are not going to give him a sense of false hope<br />3) they are not valid<br /><br />But he also tells us what it will take for him to believe in the information (pay special attention to the pronouns)<br /><br />1) IT needs to become valid<br />2) he needs to see THEM<br />3) he needs to get from law enforcement that this is verified<br />4) he needs to get from law enforcement that this is AIRTIGHT<br />5) he needs to get from law enforcement that this is another piece that WE found<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91595274495226234852013-09-10T20:55:00.806-04:002013-09-10T20:55:00.806-04:00Frannie--thank you! I will definitely read that--...Frannie--thank you! I will definitely read that--I am interested to hear what she has to say!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19485505383365092002013-09-10T16:36:07.450-04:002013-09-10T16:36:07.450-04:00There is a great interview with DeeDee on the Blin...There is a great interview with DeeDee on the Blink on Crime website. There was a lot of information I had never heard before about what DeeDee has been through during the investigation. Very interesting! I encourage you to read it too.Frannienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71541422462642938762013-09-10T16:14:09.494-04:002013-09-10T16:14:09.494-04:00Anon @ 4:11--I'll be doing an analysis of the ...Anon @ 4:11--I'll be doing an analysis of the snippet you posted from Kaine when I have a little time later on today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-72247843968772120732013-09-10T16:12:21.099-04:002013-09-10T16:12:21.099-04:00I REALLY think people should take a closer look at...I REALLY think people should take a closer look at Kaine's language. I notice some very odd things jumping out at me in his word choices. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-51523285273079688282013-09-10T13:52:06.704-04:002013-09-10T13:52:06.704-04:00Oh Anon @ 4:11--I missed something obvious in Kayn...Oh Anon @ 4:11--I missed something obvious in Kayne's answer to the reporter that you posted. He repeats the reporter's question back to him before answering. Something which has been pointed out numerous times on here as a sign of lying as the person is stalling for more time to think up their answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-70963920555288169152013-09-10T13:44:49.012-04:002013-09-10T13:44:49.012-04:00Anon @ 4:11 am--
Thank you for posting this.
V...Anon @ 4:11 am--<br /><br />Thank you for posting this. <br /> <br />Very good example of how Kaine answers questions which is in a very guilty fashion. He talks in circles and takes a long time to say very little. It is like he is squirming in his seat, having trouble answering the questions sincerely, and talking in circles so as not to have to commit to any "statement" that might "give something away" about what he himself knows.<br />This is something this statement analysis group should be jumping all over since the shortest way of saying something is considered the most "honest" and all extra words need to be deemed very important.<br />I noticed something in an interview I watched yesterday that reminds me of the snippet you posted.<br />This is coming from memory so is paraphrased.<br />When a reporter asks him about the investigation, Kaine says (paraphrased) "right now it is a process of elimination until we get that person who has the information to lead us down the one path to where he's at." He repeated this phrase again in the same interview "lead us down the ONE PATH to where he's at".<br />I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUMPING ALL OVER THAT ONE!<br />I remember when Justin DiPietro used the phrase "floating around out there" and bam! People were all over it! He is a truck driver, his wheels should be on the road, this is a clue as to where Ayla is that he has used this expression "floating around out there".<br />The phrase "one path to where he's at" does not conjur up hopeful images. This phrase conjurs up a picture of a wooded area with a path going through it. Call me crazy (and I'm sure people will!) but I think it is odd that a parent of a missing child, who should have the natural denial that something terrible has happened to their child, (especially with the extremely optimistic viewpoint Kayne takes--he seems almost overly optimistic, and don't get me wrong, I understand the need to be optimistic but Kayne seems far more optimistic than most parents of missing children) is using this image of "one path to where he's at" as it certainly does not offer a hopeful image! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30634834812163954672013-09-10T04:11:45.590-04:002013-09-10T04:11:45.590-04:00I am wondering could this be some kind of leakage?...I am wondering could this be some kind of leakage? Something to do with busses, bus drivers, walks to the bus????????<br /><br />Look at how Kaine answers questions.<br /><br />Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...<br /><br />Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?<br /><br />Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it. <br /><br />Desiree: Yeah.<br /><br />Video: http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71358103399788602072013-09-09T20:56:39.218-04:002013-09-09T20:56:39.218-04:00I literally have nothing more to say about this ca...I literally have nothing more to say about this case unless someone wants to actually watch the short link that I posted and give their opinion on whether they feel Kaine in sincere when he gets choked up while saying the phrase "our morning walks to the bus" (as one of the things he remembers most about Kyron). In my opinion, it looks totally fake but I would certainly be curious if others felt differently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-24922954558676227712013-09-09T20:25:24.692-04:002013-09-09T20:25:24.692-04:00Something to do with busses, bus drivers, walks to...Something to do with busses, bus drivers, walks to the bus???????<br />Obviously taking the bus to school was the safer option for Kyron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32158547770404326392013-09-09T20:15:51.671-04:002013-09-09T20:15:51.671-04:00I felt Kaine's memory he shared was....heart b...<br />I felt Kaine's memory he shared was....heart breaking; their obvious grief over the loss of Kyron's presence in their livesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6898279053101179662013-09-09T17:36:20.621-04:002013-09-09T17:36:20.621-04:00I just watched the original press conference with ...I just watched the original press conference with all 4 parents.<br />One thing jumped out at me:<br />Kaine begins his statement by thanking those who are being interviewed to find out information which might help locate Kyron.<br />He thanks <br />1) community<br />2) parents<br />3) children<br />4) bus drivers<br />5) all of those being interviewed.<br /><br />As you read these 5 groups of people he thanks, what stands out to you? Well, to me, the only word that caught my attention was "bus drivers". I assume the teachers were interviewed, all employees at the school. Yet he does not thank them. He thanks the "bus drivers". This is the only "specialized" meaning non-vague group that he thanks.<br /><br />There are 2 reasons it caught my attention.<br /><br />1) It is the only group he picks out to thank that is not just completely a general group. I would think thanking the teachers and school employees would be more central to his thinking.<br />2) It brought to mind what Kaine said he misses most about Kyron: He said 2 things<br />1) going outside to feed the cat<br />2) (and this is where he gets choked up) MORNING WALKS TO THE BUS<br /><br />I am wondering could this be some kind of leakage? Something to do with busses, bus drivers, walks to the bus????????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86451969679491003742013-09-09T16:27:14.092-04:002013-09-09T16:27:14.092-04:00It makes me question his emotional connection to K...It makes me question his emotional connection to Kyron. Desiree shares a heartfelt memory, but Kaine is just "stealing" her memory and also turning the conversation back to himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-89875133996119987282013-09-09T16:23:01.403-04:002013-09-09T16:23:01.403-04:00Anon @ 3:37--I did not know that about the fisherm...Anon @ 3:37--I did not know that about the fisherman snagging something that may have been human hair off Sauvie Island. <br />I felt Kaine's memory he shared was odd, mainly because it is a mirror reflection of Desiree's memory (with Kaine putting HIMSELF at the center of the memory).<br />It is like parent A saying their memory is " I remember pushing him on a swing." And parent B saying "I remember him pushing me on a swing."<br />But I also thought it was odd that Kyron would help him shave his head or rub his head for 3 or 4 days. Meaning, I doubt the truthfulness of Kaine's memory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com