tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post4919786098508213213..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Part Two of DeOrre Parents' InterviewStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger370125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30010161211924424322017-12-18T21:11:11.093-05:002017-12-18T21:11:11.093-05:00Wasn't it said that the parents took a drug te...Wasn't it said that the parents took a drug test? Marijuana stays in your system for over 30 days so it would have shownccapriciousshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01374141441221687682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9799975634372456492017-12-18T21:09:15.315-05:002017-12-18T21:09:15.315-05:00From what I understand the parents took drug tests...From what I understand the parents took drug tests. Marijuana stays in your system for 30 days at leastccapriciousshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01374141441221687682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44642881477303090732015-07-27T19:08:43.419-04:002015-07-27T19:08:43.419-04:00From Brennon's postings and pictures on FB, he...From Brennon's postings and pictures on FB, he appears to be a great dad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38458804018452196612015-07-27T19:08:14.333-04:002015-07-27T19:08:14.333-04:00DeOrr Sr. gets the Snake and Salmon river confused...DeOrr Sr. gets the Snake and Salmon river confused and the whole sentence is a mess. I find the confusion odd, but if the parents are guilty perhaps they chose the Salmon River area to create their alibi because of the poor signal strength, the remoteness and the certainty that the little boy would never be found because he'd never been there in the first place. Keep the searchers busy looking there or saying he was kidnapped. Steer them away from the Snake river which runs right through Idaho Falls which has good cell coverage. Law enforcement has surely checked all of their cell phone/gps records. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75621694632412975792015-07-27T18:36:00.970-04:002015-07-27T18:36:00.970-04:00Anonymous at 1.11 - yes, that could be it, I had f...Anonymous at 1.11 - yes, that could be it, I had forgotten there were only two lines.Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20682651710994101182015-07-27T18:24:51.823-04:002015-07-27T18:24:51.823-04:00Anon-at 10.20 - Well, he's angry, and probably...Anon-at 10.20 - Well, he's angry, and probably can't bring himself to think badly of Jessica and DeOrr, and is not willing to believe he might possibly have been deceived in some way, or that they hadn't told the whole story. He's the one who has to deal with the impact on his children of DeOrr's disappearance, it would be even worse if he had to explain that it was not as told - I can't imagine how difficult it must be, trying to keep life normal for them all with all the stuff that must be going on in his head. It's terrible for all the family, but aside from the parents in either their knowing or not knowing, he has the heaviest burden. The reaction is understandable, but no -one can stop people asking questions and wanting clearer information from the parents about what happened that day, and why no-one was looking after DeOrr, why he was not properly accounted for as a defenceless toddler in an hazardous environment. What they have said so far doesn't add up or make sense,, but if they can say more to help clarify their account, why don't they? That's my take on Brennon, anyway. Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46757288660676082472015-07-27T18:24:27.083-04:002015-07-27T18:24:27.083-04:00Why would grandpa be called out for "turning ...Why would grandpa be called out for "turning his head for a minute" if he didn't even know he was supposed to be watching the kid? Which is it, he turned his head and the kid "disappeared" or he didn't know he was supposed to be watching him? I feel so bad for the grandpa -- he should have never been put in "whatever" situation he was put in and is probably devastated with guilt. The parents are so shady!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48562801390571379432015-07-27T18:19:26.142-04:002015-07-27T18:19:26.142-04:00yep, who dresses their toddler in camo and leaves ...yep, who dresses their toddler in camo and leaves him in the care of an elderly old man with physical and mental issues, and some guy they just met (who is a supposed friend of gramps but is less than half his age) by a campfire, rugged drop-off, and stream with potential wild animals around...and a camp fire. Loser parents, that is who.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-55542447678092830842015-07-27T18:14:50.734-04:002015-07-27T18:14:50.734-04:00Did you see the creepy video of Isaac that was rel...Did you see the creepy video of Isaac that was released today? The article mentions the rape charge someone else here brought up. The reporter probably woke him up but he seems wasted, too. I am not sure if he is involved or if he really ever even saw Deorr (regardless of what he mumbles in the interview). He is not very convincing at all. Not sure he says enough to analyze.<br />http://www.eastidahonews.com/2015/07/sheriff-family-friend-not-a-suspect-in-deorr-kunz-case/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88901387982440871532015-07-27T18:06:05.666-04:002015-07-27T18:06:05.666-04:00Just a few quick thoughts on this latest developme...Just a few quick thoughts on this latest development (if what we've been told by Mom & Dad is true):<br /><br />1. Deorr said "<b>We</b> were going exploring...". Who is "we"? I think he'd like us to assume that he means he and Jessica.<br />2. Deorr also said "He [little Deorr] was with Grandpa." Jessica clarified with "He [little Deorr] was with my grandfather." Note that neither of them said Deorr was with Grandpa <b>and Isaac</b>. So, back to #1- Who was going exploring?<br />3. It's says something of their parenting and relationship with their son that Deorr and Jessica would leave an energetic, "very attached to us" two-year old with a grandparent, in the middle of nowhere. Factor in that little Deorr was likely overtired, overstimulated, and maybe "difficult". Remember at this point in the story, Mom & Dad have related that he was filthy & crying at the store, being fed candy by Daddy, before 1:00 with naptime looming in an hour).<br />4. It's worse that there was no actual face-to-face conversation, asking said grandparent to watch their son and Grandpa's verbal confirmation...only an assumption, according to their own words.<br />5. It's unbelievably negligent that they left him in the care of his grandpa, whom they knew to be physically and mentally declining. Police confirmed today what concerned people were sharing on social media. If LE knew grandpa was physically and mentally compromised from Day One of the investigation, there's no way Jessica (at least) didn't know. <br />6. It's pretty unbelievable that, if they left little Deorr with Grandpa and Isaac, that the toddler just disappeared. Why? Because only Grandpa "turned his head for a moment..."- Isaac didn't. Nod to Peter Hyatt here: Linguistically speaking, Isaac is non-existent at this part of the action in the conversation. Why? We can understand an active toddler possible getting away from a physically slower grandparent, but not from a 35 year old man standing there too. So, where exactly was Isaac?<br />7. It's inexcusable and negligent if Deorr, Jessica, and Isaac "were going exploring" and "he [little Deorr] was going to be good with Grandpa by the fire."...assuming aged, ailing, and mentally slower Grandpa could just watch little Deorr.<br />8. It's pathetic and disgusting that Neither Deorr nor Jessica takes responsibility for their actions, resulting in their child missing. They are more than willing to set poor, defenseless Grandpa up for the fall and pin all the blame on him, with their interview and their vigil speech.<br /><br />So, back to #1 - Who was going exploring? Is this a case of we had to bring Grandpa along because Jessica's getting paid to take care of him, so he can watch the baby while we go do our adult thing (whatever exploring means: exploring, do some drugs, ride our dirt bikes/four-wheeler, etc.)? They fail to place Isaac with Grandpa in their statements, watching little Deorr...so we can't either.Foolsfeedonfollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-65194071816004257822015-07-27T14:21:36.805-04:002015-07-27T14:21:36.805-04:00* Considering all the "hearsay" and &quo...* Considering all the "hearsay" and "negative speculation" going the rounds, why are the parrents not telling the world that they passed the polygraph?<br /><br />* "If they're still at the campsite, how are they updating Facebook? Must be great cell/wifi service up in the mountains" said Anon on July 22.<br /><br />* "By the looks of [Reinwand's] FB page, he doesn't appear to be the type that most elderly folks would want to go on camping trips with...." He also doesn't appear to be the ideal babysitter??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88687141020311254082015-07-27T13:15:49.622-04:002015-07-27T13:15:49.622-04:00If the grandpa was immediately ruled out due to hi...If the grandpa was immediately ruled out due to his physical and mental health, I also wonder why they would leave a toddler with him in such a dangerous location (next to a drop off and creek in the forest...and by a campfire). And it has been said that they had never met Isaac before this trip so I have no clue how they could trust their son around him. That is crazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30284379167838706532015-07-27T13:11:57.145-04:002015-07-27T13:11:57.145-04:00Juliet, I wonder if they meant that online specula...Juliet, I wonder if they meant that online speculation has turned into a flood of non-stop phone calls, etc. In the interview, the dad said the sheriff's office only has 2 phone lines. Sounds like a very small operation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91496156248549990882015-07-27T12:12:14.760-04:002015-07-27T12:12:14.760-04:00https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?...https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?schema=BONNEVILLE&county=Bonneville&roaDetail=no&partySequence=70456&displayName=Reinwand%2C+Isaac+DavidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38655459538193028872015-07-27T11:52:59.358-04:002015-07-27T11:52:59.358-04:00So GGF has "declining physical and mental hea...So GGF has "declining physical and mental health," but Mom and Dad still entrusted him with the care of their son? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46378048836504660172015-07-27T11:48:28.210-04:002015-07-27T11:48:28.210-04:00Site for info:
http://interceder.net/latest_news/D...Site for info:<br />http://interceder.net/latest_news/Deorr-Kunz<br /><br />Look @ top right for additional names involved.ima.grandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319771909287767461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13981972548638692212015-07-27T11:40:39.653-04:002015-07-27T11:40:39.653-04:00http://www.eastidahonews.com/2015/07/sheriff-famil...http://www.eastidahonews.com/2015/07/sheriff-family-friend-not-a-suspect-in-deorr-kunz-case/<br />IDAHO FALLS — The third individual who was at Leadore campsite when two-year-old Deorr Kunz Jr. disappeared said he has no idea what happened to the toddler.<br /><br />Lemhi County Sheriff Lynn Bowerman confirmed Isaac Reinwand, 35, of Idaho Falls, was at the Timber Creek Campground on July 10 alongside Deorr’s parents Jessica Mitchell and Deorr Kunz Sr. and his as yet unnamed great-grandfather.<br /><br />The sheriff’s office had previously withheld Reinwand’s name, referring to him only as a family friend at the campsite.<br /><br />Over the weekend Reinwand’s name was widely publicized on social media, leading to Bowerman confirming the detail to EastIdahoNews.com<br /><br />“Yes, he was at the scene,” Bowerman said in an email. “He’s (been) a personal friend of grandpa’s for about five years. We are treating him no differently than the family, he has been questioned numerous times, and has been to the scene with me.”<br /><br />Bowerman said Reinwand, similar to Mitchell and Kunz, are “persons of interest” in this case because they were at the scene. However, at this time, neither Reinwand, Mitchell or Kunz are suspects in the missing persons case.<br /><br />The great-grandfather, who authorities have not identified, also has not been labeled as a suspect. Authorities said his declining physical and mental health ruled him out at the beginning of the case.<br /><br />Over the weekend, Reinwand was repeatedly identified as a sex offender with an extensive criminal history in online forums and on social media. However, police and court documents dispute that assertion. The Idaho State Repository shows Reinwand was charged with felony rape in 2006, but that charge was amended down to misdemeanor domestic battery.<br /><br />Sheriff’s officials also have told EastIdahoNews.com Reinwand is not a sex offender.<br /><br />“He does have a criminal record, however the police reports are not consistent with his record (and I’m) not sure why,” Bowerman said in the email.<br /><br />Bowerman did not elaborate on the inconsistencies.<br /><br />EastIdahoNews.com spoke with Reinwand briefly Monday morning on his doorstep. He confirmed Deorr was with him and the great-grandfather before he went missing, but Reinwand declined to answer further questions.<br /><br />“He just disappeared,” Reinwand said.<br /><br />Investigators are still classifying the Deorr Kunz Jr. case as a search and rescue. During the last two weeks, search crews have conducted extensive sweeps of the area, including the reservoir and the creek. The search was scaled back after 10 days. There is still no sign of Deorr.<br /><br />Mitchell and Kunz believe their son was abducted. Bowerman has not ruled abduction out. He said authorities do not suspect foul play, but has said in the past that everything is being considered in the search for the toddler. No suspects have been named in the case.<br /><br />Deorr has been missing since the afternoon of July 10, when the Salmon Dispatch Center received a 911 call from Mitchell that the toddler had gone missing.<br /><br />The parents told EastIdahoNews.com they left the child with his great-grandfather and when they returned 10 to 15 minutes later, Deorr was gone. The great-grandfather assumed the child was with his parents.<br /><br />“My dad was standing there watching him and he turned his head and then (Deorr) was gone,” grandmother Trina Bates Clegg said on July 12. “It appears like he just vanished.”ima.grandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319771909287767461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88611394503892867342015-07-27T11:15:16.425-04:002015-07-27T11:15:16.425-04:00The Where is Deorr website also says this:
"...The Where is Deorr website also says this:<br /><br />"Negative commentary is strictly prohibited!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46894102576787152542015-07-27T10:20:53.183-04:002015-07-27T10:20:53.183-04:00Where is DeOrr Kunz Jr. ? shared Brennon Birch'...<br />Where is DeOrr Kunz Jr. ? shared Brennon Birch's post.<br />July 25 at 10:47pm · <br /><br />Brennon Birch<br />Baby Deorr is my family . he may not be blood but he is my children's little brother through blood and my children are my damn world . people who keep wanting to talk shit on the family of this little guy are also talking shit to me. You want to act like your a god damn detective on Facebook ? Come say your bull shit to my face<br />https://www.facebook.com/pages/Where-is-DeOrr-Kunz-Jr-/1437579133236599Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74878984247218447112015-07-27T09:01:29.331-04:002015-07-27T09:01:29.331-04:00I read a piece, I think it was on inquisitr.com, i...I read a piece, I think it was on inquisitr.com, in which a spokesperson said the investigation had been disrupted by on-line speculation, or something along those lines. I can't find the page now as the search facility doesn't work for me, perhaps one needs to be a subscriber to use the search. I thought that was odd though, and find it difficult to believe that at the height of a search for a missing child, LE would be letting themselves be diverted by online chatter. Worth a read, if anyone can access it. It made me wonder if there is conflict in how it has all been handled. Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71499579267200877862015-07-27T08:43:28.578-04:002015-07-27T08:43:28.578-04:00PS Brennon got on with it in the belief that DeOrr...PS Brennon got on with it in the belief that DeOrr was up the mountain - DeOrr meanwhile doesn't think/believe, or want others to carry on thinking that DeOrr is up the mountain - he wants people to think it's an abduction, despite LE not issuing an Amber Alert as there was no evidence of an abduction - surely they would have heard the approach of an abductor, or at least him/her/them driving away. Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18688755686803782812015-07-27T08:39:10.275-04:002015-07-27T08:39:10.275-04:00I am more concerned with the phrase, "and alo...I am more concerned with the phrase, "and alot of people agree with me" need to persuade that Deorr is not on mountain. How does he know that? Because he KNOWS where Deorr is and he's not on the mountain?<br /><br />Side note - Trina Bates Clegg (mom of Jessica) is NOT friends with Deorr Sr (baby daddy) on FB though she is friends with his sister and Aunt.lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18434360651577224642015-07-27T08:39:09.951-04:002015-07-27T08:39:09.951-04:00I am more concerned with the phrase, "and alo...I am more concerned with the phrase, "and alot of people agree with me" need to persuade that Deorr is not on mountain. How does he know that? Because he KNOWS where Deorr is and he's not on the mountain?<br /><br />Side note - Trina Bates Clegg (mom of Jessica) is NOT friends with Deorr Sr (baby daddy) on FB though she is friends with his sister and Aunt.lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13570960437311706872015-07-27T08:32:34.590-04:002015-07-27T08:32:34.590-04:00Anonymous at 7.48- I wondered if he felt the need ...Anonymous at 7.48- I wondered if he felt the need to stress that he was the father because Brennon, the father of DeOrr's brother and sister was also up there searching, and had made the calls for additional search and rescue assistance from further afield. Maybe he felt overshadowed and inadequate, having lost the one child he and Jessica have care of, while Brennon not only raises the other two as a single parent, but also searched, and helped facilitate the extra resources. He didn't, like some of them, set up a fund-raising page to get vague extra resources - he just got on with it.<br /><br />Another possibility, perhaps he has doubts, or others have expressed doubts, around paternity. I'd be more inclined towards him feeling vulnerable and inadequate on account of Brennon, because he was the responsible one who had his act together, while DeOrr and Jessica between them had somehow managed to lose their two-year old baby. How could he not feel that way?Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38888045606182750262015-07-27T07:48:43.900-04:002015-07-27T07:48:43.900-04:00Does anyone think this sounds weird “As his father...Does anyone think this sounds weird “As his father I believe, and a lot of people agree with me, that he is no longer up the mountain anymore,” Kunz Sr. said.<br /><br />The "as his father" part seems strange to say in this context -- like an intuition? Because what does being his father have anything to do with the kid being there or not or any evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com