tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post5657300048652309651..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Hailey Dunn Murder: Personal Sensory Descriptive Language Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75296330686732934672018-02-17T11:00:55.556-05:002018-02-17T11:00:55.556-05:00A couple of things:
Billie Dunn has made sure to ...A couple of things:<br /><br />Billie Dunn has made sure to include an alibi in her answer mentioning she was at work. But does that have to indicate a need for an alibi?<br />Could it be that she was so worried about being perceived as a bad mother that rather than looking like someone who cannot properly take care of her kid, she almost moves into the victim roam telling that she is a responsible provider who doesn't live the life she would want to?<br />Almost like putting blame on the child, bills, circumstances for not being able to make ends meet. And not being able to be the mother which she should and probably could be.<br />The police dogs took them to a hotel room. First towards the father's house, but then the friend's house. So what happened in that hotel room? Of course, it could have been a part of the disposing process of the body. But it could also mean she could have been a "wild,uncontrollable" child. Many times mothers of teen daughters they can't control are more concerned about being viewed as negligent mothers and being blamed for their kid's behavior than the actual well-being of the kid.<br />This of course is extremely selfish especially in a case where a child is missing.<br />But these types of women definitely exist. There is an emotional disconnect within them.<br />But just like with the Munchhausen syndrome in extreme cases, a hatred for one's own life takes over and the child expressing the messy situation at home with his or her behavior is seen by her as a constant reminder of what is wrong with her life. And rather than fixing things, a hatred towards the child's behavior develops and the desire to put up a front and somehow keep a bad reputation from going worse mix into a life of lies and fronts and the two completely keep disconnecting until she lives her life, Hailey lives hers and the parent loses complete control partially due to her feeling so frustrated with what her life has turned into, that a 13 year old girl winds up living the life of more of an adult and putting herself in dangerous situations?<br /><br />This is just a thought. And what motivated me to write this was the police dogs. And if they trace the scent towards (not to) the father's house, then the friend's house and then the hotel room, it would have been that she had some secret older friends or a "boyfriend" with whom she decided to go to a place which could have been the point of abduction.<br /><br />I am sure that some of you, including Peter of course, have some new insights. But if I happen to be far behind with this, I apologize. And I hope that some of what I have voiced can clear up questions I have been having and others might have regarding why some people are deceptive for less apparent reasons. She might have had to do with the disappearance of her daughter. But she might also be guilt-ridden. To the point where she believes her own selfish negligence of her child's needs (dating back years) contributed to leading to her disappearance indirectly.<br /><br />So it could be that she simply feels responsible for what happened. And probably rightfully so.<br />And that doesn't have to mean that she necessarily knows what has happened to her daughter.<br /><br />I love your work, Peter. You have opened my eyes to a lot of things. And I hope that if anything, this can lead towards examinations that can possibly improve statement analysis overall.<br />Mike Dammannhttp://www.twitter.com/firetownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86913212230641206962017-02-13T22:55:51.063-05:002017-02-13T22:55:51.063-05:00INTERESTING that you all are asking the significan...INTERESTING that you all are asking the significance of a TV to Billie. From following the case, I think I have an answer to that. <br /><br />For Christmas, Billie and Shawn gave Hailey a TV for her bedroom. The significance of that is that prior to that, Hailey slept on the couch in the living room every night, so she could watch tv as she fell asleep. So when they gave her a TV for her bedroom, that was the first time she began sleeping alone in her room. And I have always wondered if Shawn did that so he could sneak into her room at night, to be alone with sweet Hailey.katydid23https://www.blogger.com/profile/06197508424030816688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74903406715922166182017-02-03T00:34:41.124-05:002017-02-03T00:34:41.124-05:00" I saw her in her room, but I saw her watchi...<br /> " I saw her in her room, but I saw her watching TV".<br /> BUT negates everything before it. what she did see, was the tv on.<br /><br />imo, she assumed Hailey was in her room because the tv was on.<br />if you recall when i "interrogated" one of Hailey's friend, you cannot see the bed from the hallway due to the way the door and closet wall is at the entrance to the bedroom.<br />SKEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-42140572750702133332017-01-29T14:42:35.469-05:002017-01-29T14:42:35.469-05:00Anonymous Anonymous said...
The rebuttal with the ...<b>Anonymous Anonymous said...<br />The rebuttal with the use of the word "but" I think cancels out the geographic location....she wasn't in the bedroom. It's like Billie's mind wants to tell what it knows.<br /><br />January 27, 2017 at 1:50 AM</b><br /><br />Another way to look at it is what follows the word "but", is what is important.<br /><br />watch-ing (action) BJD had a NTP Hailey was alive, and only live people can perform an action.<br /><br />jmoNichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09150573665283919209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88717958480049746902017-01-29T14:38:56.887-05:002017-01-29T14:38:56.887-05:00" I saw her in her room, but I saw her watchi...<b>" I saw her in her room, but I saw her watching TV".</b><br /><br />First BJD says "perhaps" saw Hailey at 10pm, then she says she peeked in the next morning. She would not commit.<br /><br />I find it interesting that BJD has a need to persuade that Hailey was doing an activity (a living thing) when she "peeked" in on, (so as to not disturb) Hailey. BJD also qualifies what she says she saw by saying it was "dark" and it "looked" like she was sleeping and she didn't "touch her". Why not? IMO, it's unexpected to say she was watching TV Monday *morning*, early before BJD went to work. Why wouldn't BJD just go in to Hailey's room and turn off her TV? Because it was dark and she only "looked like" she was sleeping.<br /><br />The TV in "on mode" has always stuck in my craw. Who else did she need to persuade that she was alive? If I recall correctly, BJD reported that David went to his friend's house at 10pm, around the same time BJD reported she "probably" saw Hailey. BJD would not let David be interviewed (probably because, IMO, their story would fall apart and he would blow their timeline). <br /><br />Does anyone think David just left earlier and BJD had no idea with whom or to where, or at what time to expect him back -- and whether he would be back by himself (which he wasn't when he finally did show up the next afternoon). IMO, they had a need to stage Hailey doing a "live thing". SA aside, why? IMO, incase David sauntered in with someone before Shawn had time to quit his job and then "go to his grandmother's". i.e., If David or his friend had arrived home at any time, they could say Hailey was in her bedroom watching TV. (Alibi)<br /><br />I wonder if this case ever goes to court, whether David would have to take the stand. It would be interesting to hear his account of that time.<br /><br />jmo<br />Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09150573665283919209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22604253443130137152017-01-28T21:26:09.469-05:002017-01-28T21:26:09.469-05:00"Would you touch your child to make
sure it..."Would you touch your child to make <br /><br />sure it was him or her in bed?"<br /><br />Me as a mom was thinking about this question when read.<br />If i would be peeking into the room of my daughter , before i would go to work, and it would look like she was in her bed, i wouldnt go touch her,because who else would be in her bed? i would close the door silently and take of to work. <br />What i do ask myself is.....how did she saw it "looked like" she was in bed.<br />Did she see her hair? Her head? Or was she laying under blanket/sheet and she just saw a figure of a "body".<br /><br />I also think the word "but" is a weird use of the word within the sentence, and makes it not a whole sentence but two sentences in one. <br /><br />Could 'i didn't touch her, implicate she maybe walked in when sexual abuse was taken place and walked away from it ("not touch her) to go to work?<br /><br />Habundianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-50165586095271381222017-01-28T17:30:29.360-05:002017-01-28T17:30:29.360-05:00yeah especially when amanda lied and tried to get ...yeah especially when amanda lied and tried to get someone else put in prison for it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15403846827515174592017-01-28T08:51:56.851-05:002017-01-28T08:51:56.851-05:00Sollecito and Knox have been through hell. I wish ...Sollecito and Knox have been through hell. I wish them well. Being convicted of a crime they did not commit must have been terror.<br /><br />Guede killed Meredith.Charlotte from denmarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9757391011785978642017-01-27T13:34:02.985-05:002017-01-27T13:34:02.985-05:00Hi Peter, I was referring to her comment regarding...Hi Peter, I was referring to her comment regarding "but she was watching TV", not the comment "but I didnt touch her".<br /><br />I wasnt very clear which is my fault.<br />I was just thinking maybe she said " I saw her in her bedroom, but I saw her watching TV" because maybe Hailey was dead at that time and that maybe Billie said "but I saw her watching TV" as her mind's way of trying to convince the listener Hailey was alive at that time since she was watching TV allegedly.<br /> <br />Re: "but I didnt touch her"....I agree w your analysis....Billie was looking at a corpse...excellent analysis.<br /><br />I was just confused about the TV statement.<br />I am not very informed about the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59819758035582989372017-01-27T13:23:39.494-05:002017-01-27T13:23:39.494-05:00Perhaps the TV was showing porn or beastiality vid...Perhaps the TV was showing porn or beastiality videos?<br />Shawn could have been in the room forcing Hailey to watch - and Billie peeked in for a little viewing herself.....??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20222425888516545512017-01-27T13:19:42.868-05:002017-01-27T13:19:42.868-05:00sha, police treated this as a teenaged runaway sha, police treated this as a teenaged runaway Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66840325323241242862017-01-27T12:45:04.230-05:002017-01-27T12:45:04.230-05:00Does anyone know if any corpse sniffing dogs were ...Does anyone know if any corpse sniffing dogs were run through that house? They would have had to have gotten rid of her body pretty quickly not to have some good dogs pick up on early decomp. I can't imagine what participation a mother could have done for her not to be calling the law. shanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-11916667414076745692017-01-27T07:40:00.785-05:002017-01-27T07:40:00.785-05:00PS
do not isolate that sentence from context, nor...PS<br /><br />do not isolate that sentence from context, nor from the other analysis. This is a source of error within analysis. <br /><br />PHStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-64951264963298313292017-01-27T07:38:11.443-05:002017-01-27T07:38:11.443-05:00Anonymous said...
The rebuttal with the use of the...Anonymous said...<br />The rebuttal with the use of the word "but" I think cancels out the geographic location....she wasn't in the bedroom. It's like Billie's mind wants to tell what it knows.<br />January 27, 2017 at 1:50 AM <br /><br /><br />Consider from another angle...<br /><br />"she" was in the bedroom "but" with the rebuttal, could be location, yes, but it also could be directly related to "she"; who is no longer "Hailey" but a corpse. <br /><br />We look and often stare at dead people and animals. <br /><br />We most always do NOT touch them. <br /><br />People will even poke a stick at a dead animal on the road, but are most hesitant to touch. <br /><br />That she felt the need to include, in the negative, what she did not do AND that this activity is similar to the reaction to a corpse, should be taken with everything else we know about the case (deception). <br /><br />She is recalling a dead body. <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6634590410940432742017-01-27T02:04:23.440-05:002017-01-27T02:04:23.440-05:00That's what Billie's mind is leaking in th...That's what Billie's mind is leaking in that statement. What Billie means is<br /><br />"She was in her bedroom, but she was not dead."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39174086625572732792017-01-27T01:59:37.341-05:002017-01-27T01:59:37.341-05:00The two realities are :
Bedroom= location
Watchin...The two realities are :<br /><br />Bedroom= location<br />Watching TV= a certain time period when Hailey would normally watch TV<br /><br />Could Hailey have been deceased at that point in time and have been in the bedroom, but because she was dead, not have turned on the TV as she normally would have at a given time?<br /><br />Therefore, Billie is stating that she DID have the TV on to overcompensate to the listener? To try to convince the listener that Hailey was active doing something at that time (watching TV)?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12194033281322872832017-01-27T01:54:59.988-05:002017-01-27T01:54:59.988-05:00There are 2 realities overlapping in Billie's ...There are 2 realities overlapping in Billie's mind when she makes that statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63323584987431209652017-01-27T01:54:09.005-05:002017-01-27T01:54:09.005-05:00What does "watching TV" represent to Bil...<br />What does "watching TV" represent to Billie?<br /><br />Relaxing? <br /><br />Does it represent a certain time period? Like is there a time period Hailey usually would watch TV?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-73723886574691390502017-01-27T01:52:21.139-05:002017-01-27T01:52:21.139-05:00Billie's mind is picturing Hailey in 2 differe...Billie's mind is picturing Hailey in 2 different locations at once when she says that statement <br /><br />" I saw her in her room, but I saw her watching TV".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-52267213448580378362017-01-27T01:50:23.130-05:002017-01-27T01:50:23.130-05:00The rebuttal with the use of the word "but&qu...The rebuttal with the use of the word "but" I think cancels out the geographic location....she wasn't in the bedroom. It's like Billie's mind wants to tell what it knows. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30053585264656844482017-01-27T01:46:31.208-05:002017-01-27T01:46:31.208-05:00Fools,
I noticed that too. I tend to think it me...Fools,<br /><br />I noticed that too. I tend to think it means she wasn't in the bedroom...she was in another room watching TV. <br /><br />However, now that I've read what you've wrote and thought about it further, I think what Billie may be "leaking" is that Hailey was not in the home at that time. I feel like she is lying when saying "I did see her in her room" and then the second part of the statement is leakage...it is leakage of a truer picture of where Hailey was...somewhere else watching TV PERHAPS. Almost like Billie is imagining what Hailey was actually doing somewhere else....hmmmm maybe she was watching TV. The fact that Billie is merely "imagining" this activity of TV watching is disturbing, because who knows where Hailey actually was at that time?!? I don't know much about the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-37153278772685087722017-01-27T01:43:19.580-05:002017-01-27T01:43:19.580-05:00I saw her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.
...I saw her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.<br />...<br />As opposed to whatever else happened in her room that night.Bobcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-43866334156533312102017-01-27T01:04:46.703-05:002017-01-27T01:04:46.703-05:00I'm having a little issue with Billie's &q...I'm having a little issue with Billie's "I did see her in her room, <b>but</b> I saw her watching TV...". Why is she rebutting seeing Hailey in her room with Hailey watching TV? I thought from what I'd read of this case that the TV was in Hailey's room. So, either the last time Billie saw Hailey she was not in her room (she saw Hailey somewhere outside of her room) or Hailey was not watching TV the last time Billie "saw" her before Monday morning. <br /><br />Seeing a live Hailey the last time is sensitive to Billie Dunn. The shortest (and most logical) sentence would have been, "I saw Hailey in her room, watching TV.". In answering the question, to Billie, mentally, Hailey cannot physically be both present in her room and watching TV on Sunday night. Why not?Foolsfeedonfollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-42880798330967010852017-01-27T00:23:57.561-05:002017-01-27T00:23:57.561-05:00Trenton Duckett.Trenton Duckett.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1949953248301860422017-01-26T23:15:07.740-05:002017-01-26T23:15:07.740-05:00Peter
In the following statement
"Monday mo...Peter<br /><br />In the following statement<br /><br />"Monday morning, I looked in her room and it <br /><br />was dark and it looked like she was laying in <br /><br />bed. "<br /><br />Would this statement alone indicate the person in bed was dead? The "looked like" being indicative of it looks like her but is not her because she's dead. A corpse can't look like anything anymore, nor can a corpse "lay" anywhere? <br /><br />lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.com